Poll Position: Who will win the presidency?
The day is almost upon us. It’s time to declare.
After a very long election season, we’re a few days away from learning whether Barack Obama will be re-elected or if Mitt Romney will replace him. Which way will it go?
Who will win the presidency?
- Obama with a couple of states to spare (458 Votes)
- Romney by just a few electoral votes (367 Votes)
- Romney with a couple of states to spare (295 Votes)
- Obama by just a few electoral votes (270 Votes)
- Obama with 325+ electoral votes (185 Votes)
- Romney with 325+ electoral votes (184 Votes)
Total Voters: 1,759
Loading ...Now, you can find any number of data points to support your desired or predicted outcome. National polls, state polls, battleground polls, early voting totals, absentee ballot requests, TV ad spending, campaign stops by the candidates and their surrogates — all point to a tight race, and any can be used to explain why Obama will win or Romney will be victorious. In such a close race, with hardly anyone still undecided and likely to vote, it’ll probably come down to which side’s base is more enthusiastic, and which side’s get-out-the-vote efforts or “ground game” is more effective.
I’m not asking you to make a case for your preferred candidate, just to tell us what you think is going to happen. The nearby poll for this week’s Poll Position offers a range of possibilities for you to register a strong to moderate to narrow win for either candidate. Feel free to be more specific in the comments as to which swing state will go to each candidate.
As for me …
I’ll make my prediction next week!
– By Kyle Wingfield
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cc
November 2nd, 2012
5:52 am
Only four days left before the end of the leftists’ dreams!
I can hardly wait!
It will be President-Elect Romney after Tuesday, and President Romney in January, 2013.
GJ
November 2nd, 2012
6:04 am
Please not Romney. Like we really need a liar with $450 million dollars running around as the President.
Lil' Barry Bailout - Vote American
November 2nd, 2012
6:04 am
I’m thinking Americans outnumber Democrats and President Romney wins.
Lil' Barry Bailout - Vote American
November 2nd, 2012
6:05 am
That’s right, GJ, what we need is four more years of a failed community organizer who never worked an honest day in his life.
cc
November 2nd, 2012
6:09 am
“a failed community organizer”
a LYING, MUSLIM SYMPATHIZING, failed community organizer . . .
A Nielsen
November 2nd, 2012
6:13 am
Honestly as an non American, You deserve Romney. Just like you deserved Bush the torturer.
It is not that I do not like America but your foreign politics and the millions of poor in the world that YOU have done little to nothing for is why I do not wish you well.
It would be great for the world if USA reinvented the moral high ground but I do not see that coming, much more likely that such an reinvention will come from the third world!
Lil' Barry Bailout - Vote American
November 2nd, 2012
6:18 am
The U.S. government spends more on international aid than any other country.
Don’t let a little thing like facts get in the way of your America-hating, A Nielsen.
cc
November 2nd, 2012
6:24 am
A Nielsen:
Your comment is exactly the reason I advocate U. S. withdrawal from the U. N., and booting the U. N. out of this country. We are never given the respect that we have earned through aid given other countries, and foreign countries soon forget American blood that was shed defending or freeing them. France serves as a shining example of the later.
cc
November 2nd, 2012
6:27 am
A Nielsen:
“as an non American”, you don’t even have a dog in this fight.
Aquagirl
November 2nd, 2012
6:27 am
Don’t let a little thing like facts get in the way of your America-hating
I see Lil’ Barry is up early winning hearts and minds.
Thomas Heyward Jr
November 2nd, 2012
6:29 am
Obama or Romney……Roughly 25% of the Population will pick a continuation of Bush W’s policies of undeclared wars, indefinite detection without due process, kill-lists, warrentless easedropping, militirized police-state, warfare/welfare MIC morally-bankrupted society.
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The other 75% of decent Americans will possibly consent to be governed in such an inhumane fashion……………………………..but then again………..maybe we won’t.
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Time will tell.
Lil' Barry Bailout - Vote American
November 2nd, 2012
6:30 am
Aquagirl attacks me for correcting someone erroneously bashing America.
No surprise–liberal.
cc
November 2nd, 2012
6:32 am
Thomas Heyward Jr:
Exactly the response I’m expecting and prepared to handle . . .
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Tiberius - pulling the tail of the left AND right
November 2nd, 2012
6:45 am
I like the way early voting is going with less Democrats and more Republicans. Given that historically more Republicans vote in significantly higher numbers on election day, if the trend continues we’ll be say President Romney early on November 7th.
But the margin will still be less than 20 electoral votes, as I have predicted from day one no matter who wins.
I also predict MSNBC will need a new lineup of hosts, as there heads will collectively explode if this happens.
Aquagirl
November 2nd, 2012
6:49 am
Of course Obama will win Kyle. You voted for Gingrich, didn’t you get the e-mail?
http://news.yahoo.com/errant-gingrich-email-obama-going-win-174518235.html
Tiberius - pulling the tail of the left AND right
November 2nd, 2012
6:49 am
A Neilsen, why is America responsible for the plight of “the millions of poor” around the world?
Serious question that I’d appreciate an answer to.
Tiberius - pulling the tail of the left AND right when needed
November 2nd, 2012
7:05 am
“The other 75% of decent Americans will possibly consent to be governed in such an inhumane fashion……………………………..but then again………..maybe we won’t.”
With any luck you Paulistas will just leave.
A bigger bunch of sore losers and whiners we have never seen before.
the ability of the national survey
November 2nd, 2012
7:32 am
STATUS UPDATE ON GALLUP ELECTION POLLING following “Super Storm Sandy” has compromised the ability of a national survey to provide a nationally represenative assessment of the nations voting population.
After the highly photographed Obama Christie meeting, the suffering has returned bigtime to New Jersey, Long Island and NYC. 3.8 million without power,no gasoline,not enough food or heat. As the President goes back to campaigning the populace goes back to suffering.
I Report (-: You Whine )-: mmm, mmmm, mmmmm! Just sayin...
November 2nd, 2012
7:37 am
I stand by my view that Republican turnout will be up significantly from recent-historic lows in 2008 in the key swing states (Ohio, Wisconsin, Colorado) and nationally, because the post-2008 elections, the party registration data, the early-voting and absentee-ballot numbers, and the Rasmussen and Gallup national party-ID surveys (both of which have solid track records) all point to this conclusion. I stand by my view that no countervailing evidence outside of poll samples shows a similar surge above 2008 levels in Democratic voter turnout, as would be needed to offset Romney’s advantage with independents and increased GOP voter turnout.
We ain’t stayin home this year.
Aynie Sue
November 2nd, 2012
7:38 am
The probability of an Obama re-election ignites a firestorm of denial, hate, and vituperation among the fools who voted twice for George W. Bush. Why can’t some people learn from their mistakes? Willful ignorance and blind hatred makes them susceptible to the wiles of a smooth-talking snake oil salesman pedaling another round of voodoo economics.
Listen up, ya’ll! Better follow the lead of Governor Christie and Mayor Bloomberg: abandon your stinking, sinking ship!
James
November 2nd, 2012
7:39 am
The latest Politico battleground poll, released earlier this week, shows Romney with a massive 19-point lead over Obama among suburban voters. Surprisingly, it’s actually one point higher than his lead among rural voters. Obama leads among urban voters by 29 points. In 2008, Obama won the suburban vote by 2 points. The 21-point swing away from him makes his reelection very difficult.
Obama’s approval rating among suburban voters is deeply underwater. Just 42% approve of the job he is doing, against 57% who disapprove. A staggering 52% disapprove strongly. Romney has a net 23 approval rating among suburban voters, 59% approving with 36% disapproving.
Over the past 30 years, no one has won the presidency without winning the suburban vote. Bill Clinton’s successful campaigns were built on getting strong support from suburban voters. To some extent, Obama inherited much of the goodwill Clinton earned with this important voting block. Yet, in just four years, Obama seems to have squandered that.
As the suburbs go, so goes the nation. Today, at least, the suburbs are going with Romney.
@@
November 2nd, 2012
7:42 am
I’m not one for making predictions. If, however, Obama DOES win, it’ll be a natural disaster.
schnirt
Tiberius - pulling the tail of the left AND right when needed
November 2nd, 2012
7:43 am
Aynie Sue, Chris Christie will still be voting for Romney, never fear. Appreciating the response of a President to a disaster when your state will need much in the way of Federal dollars is not an endorsement of any kind.
And Bloomberg is irrelevant outside of NY.
Oh, and didn’t vote for Bush. Either time.
Aquagirl
November 2nd, 2012
7:49 am
As the suburbs go, so goes the nation. Today, at least, the suburbs are going with Romney.
Hey James, the only thing worse than a spammer is a lazy plagiaristic spammer.
Citizen of the World
November 2nd, 2012
7:51 am
Even Republicans who think deep down that Obama will win will probably say that Romney will win, because in their world, which is devoid of facts and reason, “wishing makes it so.”
I Report (-: You Whine )-: mmm, mmmm, mmmmm! Just sayin...
November 2nd, 2012
7:52 am
The most accurate pollster in 2004 and 2008 -
Ohio, Rasmussen Reports 48 50 Romney +2
Just sayin…
stands for decibels
November 2nd, 2012
7:55 am
I’m not asking you to make a case for your preferred candidate, just to tell us what you think is going to happen.
I went with Obama with a coupla states to spare because that’s how most every poll compiler has it.
Obviously there are means by which it goes Romney’s way, but they all involve either a) some significant change in voter sentiment in the next two working days, or b) most of the polling just getting it wrong. It’s a possibility, just not a probability at this point.
Tiberius - pulling the tail of the left AND right when needed
November 2nd, 2012
7:55 am
Aquagirl, just because you don’t like the conclusion doesn’t mean you should jump down James’ throat. He’s only doing what Kyle asked for – the reasons WHY you think the particular candidate will win.
Which, btw, I’ve noticed you have failed to do in all three comments you have posted.
Ivan Cohen
November 2nd, 2012
7:55 am
@ cc: How soon they forget…..France as an ally during the American Revolutionary War coupled with American and French troop involvement in the Battle of Yorktown. France shed blood here first, America shed blood on French soil during World War II. No tit for tat here, everything is even steven. Then to tell someone as a non-American, they don’t have a dog in this fight. (the elections) Yet America will be inserting itself in the elections of other countries to protect “it’s interests”. Which no American politician, Democrat or Republican has ever really defined via a state of union address or fireside chat.
stands for decibels
November 2nd, 2012
7:58 am
…and as to how much of a probability, I have seen Obama’s situation compared to an NFL team carrying a 3 point lead with a few minutes to go, or to an MLB team carrying a one-run lead going into the 9th with a healthy closer on the mound.
We’ve all seen those situations result in a reversal of fortune for the team with the lead, so I am not assuming anything.
AU Liberal in ATL
November 2nd, 2012
8:00 am
I’m voting for Lil Barry because I like morons and Dubya can’t run again.
kevin
November 2nd, 2012
8:00 am
Thousands are wishing that Mitt win. Those that do will be in for the longest low down President America ever had. He has nothing in your interest and while we still are facing racism, you all need to take a good look at Katrina and Sandy……….no Mitt will not come your aid nor this state because Georgia has wounded itself by continuing to express how it support racism instead of trying to correct itself. Those of you who think you will gain something by Mitt, well you will but not for you personally, it will be for Mitt, his friends and to continue to support jobs overseas where he has a vast interest. Mitt is not or no where near Presidential Material and his lies shows it. He will not win and all of you will be sad by Wednesday morning.
EJ Moosa
November 2nd, 2012
8:02 am
More important is who are the losers We all are.
People, you really do need to vote out each and every incumbent. If they have not solved the problem by now, they ARE the problem.
James
November 2nd, 2012
8:03 am
Aquagirl, tell that to Biden
AU Liberal in ATL
November 2nd, 2012
8:03 am
Chris Christie’s vote is irrelevant because his state will vote for President Obama.
Tiberius - pulling the tail of the left AND right when needed
November 2nd, 2012
8:04 am
stands, I’m looking at early voting numbers rather than polling.
One, because the majority of polls in question have oversampling of Democrats trying to mimic 2008 turnout (which I don’t believe will happen), and two, because voting trends of actual and historical trump polls.
This is not the Obama-mania election of 2008; more in the mold of a traditional election where both candidates are equally inspiring and uninspiring to their respective parties. And if I were Obama, I wouldn’t like the cry for help out of Pennsylvania yesterday, especially with a possible depressed vote out of Democrat stronghold Philly due to the storm while western PA (more fertile GOP territory) has no issues.
Tiberius - pulling the tail of the left AND right when needed
November 2nd, 2012
8:07 am
kevin, at some point you have to face the reality that drinking hard liquor this early in the morning is not good for you.
flagboy?
November 2nd, 2012
8:08 am
I think Obama wins Ohio and because of that, wins the presidency.
The fact that Obama and Romney are the choices is more worrying than anything else really.
As for A Neilsen . . . so, what country do you call home? And what has that country done for the “millions of poor” across the world?
Aquagirl
November 2nd, 2012
8:08 am
He’s only doing what Kyle asked for– the reasons WHY you think the particular candidate will win.
You emphasized the wrong word….Kyle asked why YOU think the particular candidate will win. Not Why some Breitbart writer thinks the particular candidate will win while not mentioning it’s not your opinion and it’s copied verbatim.
If you’re all for people ripping off other’s intellectual property (I can’t believe I used that for a Breitbart source) then China is ready when you are.
Somehow I think your pining for my opinion on who will win and why is a bit forced. Obama’s up in most polls, especially the swing states. Incumbents usually have an advantage. If you want to talk it to death and pretend you’ve got the inside analysis go for it.
stands for decibels
November 2nd, 2012
8:10 am
Tib @ 8.04, that’s fine, and if that’s your means by which Romney threads the needle go with it.
It’s just not the way I’d bet, is all, particularly since the kind of presumptions people make about how overall turnout affects the outcome tend to come from the gut rather than actual analysis. (I’m too lazy to look it up/link to it, but Nate mentioned the other day that when he runs his 538 model with 2004-type turnouts, the result’s basically the same. FWIW.)
Tiberius - pulling the tail of the left AND right when needed
November 2nd, 2012
8:10 am
“Yet America will be inserting itself in the elections of other countries to protect “it’s interests”.”
Really, Ivan?
A recent historical cite would be enlightening.
Jack
November 2nd, 2012
8:11 am
We have Obama as president because not enough registered voters bothered to vote in 2008.
stands for decibels
November 2nd, 2012
8:11 am
(I can’t believe I used that for a Breitbart source)
As penance, you should go outside and drunkenly scream at imaginary rapists.
Finn McCool (The System isn't Broken; It's Fixed)
November 2nd, 2012
8:13 am
Romney will be lucky to even break 200 electoral votes.
mwuahahahahahahaha
Aquagirl
November 2nd, 2012
8:13 am
at some point you have to face the reality that drinking hard liquor this early in the morning is not good for you.
Every time I think Tiberius is beyond all redemption he busts out one-liners like this.
stands for decibels
November 2nd, 2012
8:13 am
I should mention, at this point, a national poll and $2.25 will get you a ride on the NYC subway when it re-opens for business.
Tiberius - pulling the tail of the left AND right when needed
November 2nd, 2012
8:14 am
“You emphasized the wrong word….Kyle asked why YOU think the particular candidate will win. Not Why some Breitbart writer thinks the particular candidate will win while not mentioning it’s not your opinion and it’s copied verbatim. ”
OK, got it.
So I’m not to take any analysis from anybody but myself in order to form my opinion of what will happen, and I’m not to use any of that analysis even if I happen to agree with it in my responses.
H.E. Pennypacker
November 2nd, 2012
8:18 am
All the pollsters who analyze state by state races mathematically have the race breaking materially towards Obama. The most popular of these is Nate Silver who has Obama at 80.8% likelihood.
It comes down to if you trust the relatively new method of aggregating all available data points or do you like to cherry pick data points to fit your narrative like voter enthusiasm or rely upon partisan polling organizations like the GOP Rassmussen…..or best of all listen to Dick Morris and his predicted GOP landslide.
Either way, someone is going to be disappointed Tue. night.
ByteMe - Got ilk?
November 2nd, 2012
8:18 am
Right now, it looks like 303 on the high side and 282 on the low side for Obama. I’m not counting Omaha, though, since that one’s hard to predict and no one is campaigning or polling there.
commoncents
November 2nd, 2012
8:19 am
A Nielsen-
We’re voting for president of the US, not pres of the world. Additionally, I’d wager the US has done more for the world than whatever country your from. Chances are, we’ve done more for your country than your country has done for itself.
Go ask the UN to help. Hell, maybe Obama can run for president of that. I hear the Middle East loves to negotiate with him…
Finn McCool (The System isn't Broken; It's Fixed)
November 2nd, 2012
8:20 am
Alcohol is bad for your system so switch to what Tiberius uses – crystal meth.
Where do you think he gets that euphoric world devoid of all facts and reason?
Finn McCool (The System isn't Broken; It's Fixed)
November 2nd, 2012
8:21 am
Nate Silver who has Obama at 80.8% likelihood
It was at 74 just this past Monday. But we have the weekend Republican desperation money ad blitz to contend with.
ByteMe - Got ilk?
November 2nd, 2012
8:21 am
I wonder where the 35+ votes for a 325+ win are coming from? Is LSD really that common now?
fair and balanced
November 2nd, 2012
8:22 am
Democrats win and here is why:The GOP takes its marching orders from Grover Norquist, Karl Rove and Rush Limbaugh. Bill Clinton is spending every waking minute either campaigning and explaining the issues to the electorate or working on his Global Initiative. Jimmy Carter is here in Atlanta working on global health care initiatives. His grandson exposed what goes on behind closed doors when Romney speaks to his base and when Romney explained his true objectives and feelings about the 47%. By contrast George Bush has been living the good life out of sight and is today speaking behind closed doors in the Cayman Islands to wealthy investors on how to invest off shore.His former henchmen like Dan Senor, Dick Cheney and Karl Rove keep advising Romney on how to cast false allegations on Obama and on phantom enemies like Vladmir Putin hoping to stir up the base.
More news comes out that the Romneys increased their wealth by tens of millions of dollars due to Obama’s auto bailout funds with investments in auto parts suppliers like Sensata and Delphi. Both companies have used their new found profits to pack up, fire American workers and reopen their factories in China. Romney hides all this with a phony blind trust and slanders GM and Chrysler saying they are shipping American jobs to China.
Of course we would know a lot more about Romneys offshore investments, role in Bain, phony blind trust and profits from the auto bailout if he would disclose ten years of taxes. His wife says “you people got all you need” dismisively to the voters judging her families numerous conflicts of interest.
Obam inherited the same economic conditions as Herbert Hoover and turned the economy around without a Depression, employment is back to 2008 levels, real estate is coming back, interest rates are still low and the stock market is back where it was in 2007, and Obama inherited three live wars which he is successfully bringing to a conclusion (Unless you believe the unfounded GOP rumors that Al Quaida is resurgent).No other President faced such a challenge -NONE!
The above are sufficient grounds to vote for Obama and the Democrats in Congress and trust Obama will continue to do what is best for the country all American workers and not just the top 1%.
JDW
November 2nd, 2012
8:25 am
I am guessing that Obama wins between 281 and 303 EV’s…CO, VA and OH remain the main wildcards. I am also sticking with my original thought that the Senate remains 52 or 53 Dems. I think the House will shift toward the Dems by a few say 3 to 7 seats.
I see where the RCP trend line has now moved back to Obama at +.1 overall and that is before several more positive results from yesterday. Given that Romney’ support in the South is overwhelming I think that has a tendency to skew his overall results. For example one of the Gallup Polls that had Obama trailing by 6 also showed Romney leading only in the South and behind in all other geographies.
That said this one that is so close there could be some serious surprises…we may not really know until late in the week.
I Report (-: You Whine )-: mmm, mmmm, mmmmm! Just sayin...
November 2nd, 2012
8:26 am
I’m going all Benghazi, not matter who doesn’t like it.
The lib media this morning has released a “timeline” and in that “timeline” they arw calling the bravery of Tyrone Woods and Glen Doherty a “rescue mission” as though they did not tell them to stand down and instead authorized it. No mention of the abandonment of these two Patriots, I guess obama could not find a way to take “credit” and pat himself on the back for it.
Some things are just too depraved to even comment on, so I won’t.
Tiberius - pulling the tail of the left AND right when needed
November 2nd, 2012
8:27 am
stands, I think Nate Silver is usually on target (not always), but I don’t think you can punch in numbers each and every time to account for subtle nuances in play this year, especially in particular states. For instance, if you take Iowa and their historical ventures into early voting, Democrats wipe the floor with Republicans in early and absentee voting turnout, while the Republicans do the opposite on election day – including 2008. Not so this year. Democrat voters way down, GOP voters way up. Could they all of a sudden be switching voting preferences? History would say probably not, especially given that there is no historical significance to this election as there was in 2008. Same with Ohio. Obama’s win margin there in 2008 has been virtually wiped out with early and absentee voting, yet we still have election day ahead when GOP-ers traditionally vote.
Now it’s possible that trends are changing due to the proliferation of early voting, so none of this is cast in stone, but there is no indication that 2008 was nothing more than an aberration and isn’t likely to be repeated in 2012 (or possibly ever – unless we get a female nominee at some time).
H.E. Pennypacker
November 2nd, 2012
8:27 am
I could not help myself so I went to Fox News and Drudge web sites last night to see how they are coping with the move away from their candidate. They are going down swinging in an attempt to portray the aftermath of Hurricane Sandy as a post apocalyptic dystopia completely neglected by a campaigning Obama.
Nice touch.
Lil' Barry Bailout - Vote American
November 2nd, 2012
8:28 am
Here’s a poll question–how much can the Obozo administration fudge today’s employment numbers and keep a straight face?
Goldie
November 2nd, 2012
8:28 am
Obama/Biden 2012 — Moving FORWARD!
Finn McCool (The System isn't Broken; It's Fixed)
November 2nd, 2012
8:30 am
tell em, Fair and Balanced!
Has GHW Bush done anything much since leaving office? Besides golf and yachting?
carlosgvv
November 2nd, 2012
8:31 am
Barry – 6:04
I guess that bad mood is because your dog lost last night’s fight in the trailer park.
Aquagirl
November 2nd, 2012
8:32 am
So I’m not to take any analysis from anybody but myself in order to form my opinion of what will happen
What part of “not mentioning it’s not your opinion and it’s copied verbatim” was unclear to you Tiberius? Were you one of those kids who had your mommy intervene when you got busted plagiarizing school papers and then claimed you didn’t know it was cheating?
It’s amazing I have more respect for a Breitbart contributor’s personal property than you or James. But that’s the flip-floppy ways of modern conservatism for ya. Lecture everyone else on how they should be producers, not freeloaders…..while handwaving away freeloading.
H.E. Pennypacker
November 2nd, 2012
8:32 am
U.S. added 171,000 jobs. Unemployment at 7.9%.
JDW
November 2nd, 2012
8:33 am
The detail from that Gallup 10/15 poll….
“Obama is winning the West (+6), the East (+4), and the Midwest (+4). The only region he’s losing is the South. But he’s losing the South, among likely voters, by 22 points.”
Since then the polls have moved more in Obama’s favor if the regional trends hold the key states should move toward Obama.
Finn McCool (The System isn't Broken; It's Fixed)
November 2nd, 2012
8:34 am
Numbers are out. Unemployment at 7.9%
Finn McCool (The System isn't Broken; It's Fixed)
November 2nd, 2012
8:35 am
U.S. Added 171,000 Jobs in October
I Report (-: You Whine )-: mmm, mmmm, mmmmm! Just sayin...
November 2nd, 2012
8:35 am
The detail from the Gallup 10/28 poll -
Gallup 10/22 – 10/28 2700 LV 2.0 46 51 Romney +5
Loy
November 2nd, 2012
8:36 am
Things are getting better. USA USA USA.
Tiberius - pulling the tail of the left AND right when needed
November 2nd, 2012
8:38 am
“Numbers are out. Unemployment at 7.9%” “U.S. Added 171,000 Jobs in October”
So the one thing you’re avoiding posting, Finn, is that the unemployment rate went UP last month.
Isn’t it amazing what happens when you include every state’s figures into the mix . . .
I Report (-: You Whine )-: mmm, mmmm, mmmmm! Just sayin...
November 2nd, 2012
8:41 am
Two-thirds of those who have found employment under President Obama are immigrants, both legal and illegal, according to an analysis that immigration has soaked up a large portion of what little job growth there has been over the past three years.
Comprende?
obozo’s lawn care service.
JDW
November 2nd, 2012
8:41 am
This won’t hurt especially if people read the revisions….
“The U.S. economy added 171,000 jobs in October, according to the Labor Department’s monthly jobs report. The unemployment rate is 7.9 percent.
According to the report, employment rose in professional and business services, health care and retail trade. Hurricane Sandy had “no discernible effect” on the employment data for October, the report added. The revisions for August and September are:
The change in total nonfarm payroll employment for August was revised from +142,000 to +192,000, and the change for September was revised from +114,000 to +148,000.
Skip
November 2nd, 2012
8:42 am
America just isn’t as crazy as the cons would like to believe, Obama in a squeaker.
WOW
November 2nd, 2012
8:43 am
My feeling is that the Presidents small, but steady lead will hold in teh Electoral College with him winning at least 281 electoral votes. I don’t think anyone truly knows who will win CO or VA (my count has Romney winning both). OH is going Obama, so it really doesn’t matter. There is no evidence that Romney can win Iowa and the ground game in PA and NV are just too strong for Romney to win without being ahead in the polls leading up until election day.
Senate may have some wild cards, it will be interesting to see if Bob Kerrey can win NE with all the late Republican endorsements. Indiana may be a surprise as well.
JDW
November 2nd, 2012
8:43 am
@Whiner…if you win the overall by winning the South +22 and losing everywhere else it doesn’t do you much good now does it?
cc
November 2nd, 2012
8:45 am
“The probability of an Obama re-election ignites a firestorm of denial, hate, and vituperation among the fools who voted twice for George W. Bush.” indicating that George W. Bush was a far better president than Obama has been.
anthony676
November 2nd, 2012
8:45 am
Dear A Neilsen, as a father of a US Marine, my son defends the very liberty and freedom in this greatest nation on earth for people like yourself to enjoy, while you spout out such inconceivable nonsense about foreign politics and the poor. Perhaps your warped thinking would change should you decide to actually put on the uniform and serve our beloved land. Then maybe you would understand that the US does not conquor but liberates!!
BuckeyeInGa
November 2nd, 2012
8:49 am
President Obama will win because the Buckeye state is the biggest deciding factor. I don’t see Romney taking that state especially after the issues he’s been having with the UAW and Chrysler corporation in the past week.
stands for decibels
November 2nd, 2012
8:50 am
Yep, the job numbers are obviously good for the nation, but to keep it on-topic, obviously they don’t hurt Obama’s prospects with but two working days to go.
/drive-by
Junior Samples
November 2nd, 2012
8:51 am
If the Redskins win their last home game before election day, then the party in power gets to hold on to the White House. If the Redskins lose, no matter how close the game, the opposition party takes over.
The Redskins are playing the Panthers, at home.
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2008/nov/03/redskins-rule-ideal-for-monday-night/
Aquagirl
November 2nd, 2012
8:54 am
Wingfield – man up and take a position.
America, land of microwave brownies and I WANT IT NOW!!!
Sheesh.
Lil' Barry Bailout - Vote American
November 2nd, 2012
8:54 am
7.9% is “good for the nation? Welcome to Obozo’s new normal, and to a country populated by folks educated in rapidly worsening public schools.
Rush
November 2nd, 2012
8:54 am
Watergirl winning minds and hearts…..are you delusional or what watergirl? Do you think your little snide remarks are going to change anything? Head on over to Bookie man’s blog as he has a new one calling your name. Your fellow leftist are waiting for you.
8Ball
November 2nd, 2012
8:55 am
Give your heads a shake…. from the rest of the world.
I Report (-: You Whine )-: mmm, mmmm, mmmmm! Just sayin...
November 2nd, 2012
8:55 am
An administration that would lie and change it’s story, despite evidence to the contrary, about the treason it committed against our mission in Libya wouldn’t lie about a jobs report, now would it?
Del
November 2nd, 2012
8:56 am
I’m certain Nielsen only uses the initial A of his/her first name for a reason.
JDW
November 2nd, 2012
8:57 am
@Junior…that one would dovetail nicely with Kyle’s World Series prognosticator that has already picked Obama.
Loy
November 2nd, 2012
8:58 am
Most people work in lawn care know is American. It did change an the last two years because of the argument about illegal immigrants. I know because I deliver packages. So why lie about something you have no facts. That’s what racist people do lie an hope people won’t check the facts.
Rush
November 2nd, 2012
8:58 am
Who needs nationally recognized polls when we are fortunate enough to hae WOW predict everythign for us right here on the AJC. Do we have to pay extra for this expert analysis? LOL
Rush
November 2nd, 2012
9:01 am
Loy the package deliverer……the fact checker.
Finn McCool (The System isn't Broken; It's Fixed)
November 2nd, 2012
9:03 am
Joseph Stiglitz: “Romney’s plan is based on magic”
How frickin’ true.
Tom(Independent Viet Vet-USAF)
November 2nd, 2012
9:05 am
At least if Romney gets elected, we probably will not have to pay him a salary? Maybe send a little extra towards Sandra Fluke’s way? Oh by the way, where’s Bill? My badd, don’t start that again?
trailerparkted
November 2nd, 2012
9:06 am
I’m a lifelong republican whom will be voting for Obama, bain uprooted my family and I in 1998 when my job was shipped to India, moved to GA in 1999 while things have been tough they have been well. I’ll never trust Mitt to do anything but protect his Millionaire Boys Club!
Tiberius - pulling the tail of the left AND right when needed
November 2nd, 2012
9:06 am
“I’m looking mighty forward to watching you eat your own crow next Wednesday.”
Barack is NOT the best, I will be eating no crow next week, no matter who wins. I have been consistent in my prediction that this was always a toss-up election that will be decided by less than 20 electoral votes, and I don’t see any change in that assessment.
I will be disappointed if Obama wins re-election, but not depressed about it, as there will still be a GOP-controlled House and a dysfunctional Senate in place for at least the next 2 years to keep his lame-duck tendencies in check.
trailerparkted
November 2nd, 2012
9:07 am
@Ireport, I’m still in Iraq searching for WMD’s!!!
Aquagirl
November 2nd, 2012
9:07 am
Head on over to Bookie man’s blog as he has a new one calling your name. Your fellow leftist are waiting for you.
But I might miss a one-liner from Tiberius!
Tiberius - pulling the tail of the left AND right when needed
November 2nd, 2012
9:10 am
“But I might miss a one-liner from Tiberius!”
Not surprisingly, I’m OK if that happens . . .
H.E. Pennypacker
November 2nd, 2012
9:12 am
Gotta run, but I will leave you with this blurb from the Economist’s endorsement of Obama yesterday.
Economy: Romney has an economic plan that works only if you don’t believe most of what he says.
Tom(Independent Viet Vet-USAF)
November 2nd, 2012
9:13 am
trailerparked@9:07 – I doubt that, you probably could not find your way out of your own driveway!
trailerparkted
November 2nd, 2012
9:15 am
@Tom, while that is true, I still haven’t found the WMD’s!
Lil' Barry Bailout - Vote American
November 2nd, 2012
9:15 am
Ain’t no coincidence the Economist’s masthead is red.
Loy
November 2nd, 2012
9:17 am
Thanks Rush
Finn McCool (The System isn't Broken; It's Fixed)
November 2nd, 2012
9:20 am
I will be disappointed if Obama wins re-election
Till the commie, socialist, Muslim Kenyan starts naming liberal Supreme Court justices?
mwuahahahahahaha
Partisay
November 2nd, 2012
9:21 am
“Aquagirl attacks me for correcting someone erroneously bashing America.”
But never mind that Lil’ Barry’s comment of “I’m thinking Americans outnumber Democrats and President Romney wins” does what? Bashes Americans. If you are saying that Democrats aren’t Americans, you are bashing half of this country by questioning their patiotism and devotion to their country, which is probably the worst insult any American can give another. Of course, it was standard procedure when W was president. Anybody that was against the Iraq war was a traitor (you’re either with us or against us).
So go ahead Lil B. Attack someone for bashing America but it’s OK if you bash half of America yourself.
Rush
November 2nd, 2012
9:22 am
Finn the student – up and at it early this morning…..and I will hazard to guess will be on it most of the day. Fight the good fight Finn…..what will you do after zero bama loses on Tuesday?
Rafe Hollister, suffering through Oblamer's ineptocracy
November 2nd, 2012
9:24 am
Oct numbers, 7.9% unemployment overall, and his most loyal supporters AA unemployment rose to 14.3, up a percentage, yet they act like addicts hooked on their unreliable and untrustworthy supplier.
Romney wins by a larger margin than predicted. The 2010 voters just went home for a lemonade and will return in a foul mood. I heard one standing in line, yesterday, say he has been waiting for 4 years just for that moment, and he didn’t mind the long lines.
I know that four years from now, we will still be debating the accuracy of the polls, but it seems that with all the emphasis and complaints on reliability, that this time we could sort out what works in polling and what does not. I am sure nothing will change next time, but we can always hope that someone goes to school. Rasmussen was the most accurate last time and probably will be this time, but yet he is disparaged.
Finn McCool (The System isn't Broken; It's Fixed)
November 2nd, 2012
9:29 am
disparaged
I believe your God, Shawn Hannity, prefers the term “besmirched.”
Question
November 2nd, 2012
9:33 am
People put down Obama because he was a community organizer, How many of you would give up a six figure job he could have gotten as a Harvard Grad and worked as a Community Organizer?
Its fair not to like his policy, but putting him down because he was a community organizer is stupid and Ignorant.
Lil' Barry Bailout - Vote American
November 2nd, 2012
9:33 am
Sorry, Partisay, but I will be steadfast in defending America against those who wish her ill or actively work against her. That would include Obozo-supporting Democrats, who forfeited their right to be thought of as real Americans when they actively rooted for our troops to lose in Iraq, and who today are attempting to destroy our economic system and pervert our traditions and values.
Now get out there and Vote American!
Lil' Barry Bailout - Vote American
November 2nd, 2012
9:40 am
Your Nobel-winning Harvard grad wasn’t much of a community organizer. Anybody been to the south side of Chicago lately? My advice–travel in large, well-armed groups.
Matz
November 2nd, 2012
9:41 am
Why doesn’t Gov. Rmoney talk more about this Planet Kolob place? I have so many questions! Like, if he becomes the US President, does this earn him a position of importance on Kolob? Is it a wonderful, magical place, or is it an overrated shizzz hole? Will American textbooks finally contain chapters on this long-overlooked geographic sphere? Will we finally learn about the history, politics, and economy of Kolob?
Also, will Delta have regular flights there, and will we be able to “build our own” vacation packages on Planet Kolob by combining flight, hotel, and rental car rates? Can we wear our own undergarments, or will we be required to purchase their special ones upon arrival?
If Gov. Rmoney is going to be our leader, I think we need to know these things NOW.
Randy Ayn
November 2nd, 2012
9:42 am
I think Obama wins with a few states to spare. Romney’s recent dash for moderate positions (basically, Obama’s positions) has made this a closer election than it should have been. Still, a lot of people remember what he said when he was trying to secure the GOP nomination, where he had to move to the right of Gingrich, Perry, Paul and Santorum in order to win. Now, in Georgia, that’s a popular place to be, but parts of the country that are a little saner don’t necessarily agree. I. mean, we have Paul Broun and Tom Price and only a few states can boast nuttier reps than those guys.
I Report (-: You Whine )-: mmm, mmmm, mmmmm! Just sayin...
November 2nd, 2012
9:47 am
Republican presidential candidate Mitt Romney said in a statement Friday the jobs data is a “sad reminder” of the state of the economy. Earlier, the Labor Department said 171,000 jobs were created and the unemployment rate was 7.9% in October. “Today’s increase in the unemployment rate is a sad reminder that the economy is at a virtual standstill. The jobless rate is higher than it was when President Obama took office, and there are still 23 million Americans struggling for work.”
Partisay
November 2nd, 2012
9:48 am
Lil Barry…my father voted democrat & voted for Obama. He also spent a year of his life (366 days to be exact) sitting in a POW camp in Germany starving to death. As a 20 year old, he weighed 90 pounds when he was liberated. Spent 8 months in a hospital when he got back to USA just to be able to walk out of the hospital. Had medical problems the rest of his life because of those experiences.
But according to you, he “forfeited his right to be thought of as real American.”
Hmmmm. NIce. If he were still here today and you stood in front of him and told him that to his face, well, that would be real fun to have watched!
You are a perfect, pathetic example of someone that bashes America. So do you think of all Vets that vote democrat in that manner? Wow. My guess is that you do….
Richard
November 2nd, 2012
9:49 am
For the most part, a lot of you need to calm down and realize that your life isn’t going to change much based on this election.
To Romney supporters: Obama’s reelection isn’t resulting in this complete obliteration of capitalism and a toal government takeover of your money.
To Obama supporters: Romney’s election will not result in the government throwing your grandma off a cliff and seizing your uterus.
On the day after election day, you’re going to wake up and go to the same job you had the day before. Four years later, we’re going to whine about the same issues we’re talking about today.
I remember four years ago when people said if Obama was elected, Israel would no longer exist, the terrorists would kill everyone, there would be a total government takeover of health care, taxes would exponentially rise, and the immigrant Mexican army would breed us out of America. Still waiting on any of that.
Calm down people. No matter who gets elected, don’t expect him to make your life any better. If you don’t like your life, fix it yourself.
Lil' Barry Bailout - Vote American
November 2nd, 2012
9:50 am
Why doesn’t Gov. Rmoney talk more about this Planet Kolob place?
————
Why doesn’t Obozo talk more about his savior having risen from the dead, or healing the sick by laying on of hands, or loaves and fishes appearing from nowhere?
BW
November 2nd, 2012
9:51 am
Kyle
You already picked the incumbent during the showdown between yourself and Jay…any change in the fundamentals that led you to that choice?
Partisay
November 2nd, 2012
9:51 am
Well said Richard.
Randy Ayn
November 2nd, 2012
9:53 am
Jeez, Richard – what a buzzkill.
Lil' Barry Bailout - Vote American
November 2nd, 2012
9:53 am
I’m sure we’re all very impressed, Partisay. Did your Dad root for our troops to lose in Iraq, like the leadership of the party he supported?
Liz
November 2nd, 2012
9:55 am
Whoever wins. Either way the Americans lose.
I Report (-: You Whine )-: mmm, mmmm, mmmmm! Just sayin...
November 2nd, 2012
9:57 am
I remember four years ago when people said if Obama was elected, Israel would no longer exist, the terrorists would kill everyone, there would be a total government takeover of health care, taxes would exponentially rise, and the immigrant Mexican army would breed us out of America. Still waiting on any of that.
Need any further proof that obozo supporters are nitwits?
Israel no longer exists as an ally, the terrorist killed everybody at a US embassy, obozocare, the costs of regulations are being passed along as energy and health care taxes, immigrants are getting more jobs than US citizens are.
ragnar danneskjold
November 2nd, 2012
10:00 am
Romney 308 electoral votes, 52.8% popular vote
Obama 230 electoral votes, 46.3% popular vote
Fringe candidates 0 electoral, 0.9% popular vote
Finn McCool (The System isn't Broken; It's Fixed)
November 2nd, 2012
10:00 am
My father in law is 87, joined the Navy at 17 in 1942. Voted for Reagan twice. He voted against W twice. He used to say “the W administration makes the Nixon team look like Boy Scouts.”
He voted for McCain in 2008. Is voting for Obama in 2012 based for the most part on Clinton’s speech at the Dem convention.
Americans can read through the Romney incessant BS and it is sickening.
AmericanSam
November 2nd, 2012
10:01 am
President Obama will win a much-deserved second term with 303 (that’s my best prediction) Electoral Votes.
Finn McCool (The System isn't Broken; It's Fixed)
November 2nd, 2012
10:02 am
Richard, three words for you:
Supreme Court Justices
Cherokee
November 2nd, 2012
10:08 am
Supreme Court justices seal the deal for me too. If you value freedom, you sure don’t want more Scalia’s and Thomas’s on the Court.
DannyX
November 2nd, 2012
10:08 am
“Gallup 10/22 – 10/28 2700 LV 2.0 46 51 Romney +5″
Gallup also has the unemployment rate at 7.0%.
I Report (-: You Whine )-: mmm, mmmm, mmmmm! Just sayin...
November 2nd, 2012
10:09 am
“Simply put, the President’s policies have not produced jobs. During his time in office, 14.7 million people were added to the food stamp rolls. Over that same time, only 194,000 jobs were created—thus 76 people went on food stamps for every one that found a job,” says Senator Jeff Sessions, ranking member of the Senate Budget Committee. “This is a product of low growth. Post-recession economic growth in 2010 was 2.4%, and dropped in 2011 to 1.8%. This year it has dropped again to 1.77%. Few, if any, net jobs will be created with growth of less than 2%.”
Had enough?
Cherokee
November 2nd, 2012
10:10 am
But the employment figures out today should also ensure an Obama victory – about 300 electoral votes. Sorry, cons, but you have four more years to scream about the Muslim Socialist Nazi Kenyan in office…
Loy
November 2nd, 2012
10:10 am
Richard my life have not change yet but if you put Mitt in charge it will.
Tiberius - pulling the tail of the left AND right
November 2nd, 2012
10:17 am
Loy, how will your life change if Romney is elected?
Realistically, not using some Obama /DNC exaggerations.
Finn McCool (The System isn't Broken; It's Fixed)
November 2nd, 2012
10:24 am
Cons, on the bright side, Geithner may be gone in a second term.
please, please, please…..someone offer that man a ton of cash to come work for them.
Partisay
November 2nd, 2012
10:24 am
“I’m sure we’re all very impressed”
Glad you are impressed that he almost died and suffered for the rest of his life for your freedoms.
Now for your question, no, he did not root for our troops to lose in Iraq. He just didn’t think they should have been over there fighting.
Any other questions?
Rafe Hollister, suffering through Oblamer's ineptocracy
November 2nd, 2012
10:27 am
I believe your God, Shawn Hannity, prefers the term “besmirched.”
Finn, I didn’t know that, as I watch/listen to him very little, you must be a regular viewer/listener.
BTW, my God is in heaven, where I will be going, in spite of Rev e rand Joseph Lousy’s prediction that I will go to heck, just because I am white. I’m guessing that if Obama is reelected, the Rev will move up to a more prominent role in national affairs than giving the benediction at the inaugural. Maybe Barry will appoint him Sec of Contraceptive and Abortive Rights Emeritus, at the same time he appoints his Sec of Business.
zeke
November 2nd, 2012
10:28 am
Hopefully Romney in one of the largest landslides in history! We must be rid of all socialists, liberals, progressives, commies and racists in government! Pelosi, Dodd, Reid, Shumer, Frank, Clyburn, Rangle and the other democrat left wing trash!!
southpaw
November 2nd, 2012
10:28 am
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hrdeyMNZW88
Q: In what direction was Granny going in between the left turn and going over the cliff?
A: FORWARD!!
That realization will help Romney squeak by.
Rafe Hollister, suffering through Oblamer's ineptocracy
November 2nd, 2012
10:31 am
someone offer that man a ton of cash to come work for them.
Not a chance in business. After what he has contributed to improving the stagnant economy, no businessman in his right mind would want the tax cheat Tim Geithner. Maybe a government job or one at a liberal think tank.
VM
November 2nd, 2012
10:32 am
I am Hoping for a Romney WIN
Partisay
November 2nd, 2012
10:35 am
LIl Barry – speaking of questions, I noticed you failed to answer mine. So I will ask it again.
Do you think of all Vets (and let’s just add former POW’s) that vote democrat in that manner?
It’s really just a simple yes or no answer.
JamVet
November 2nd, 2012
10:37 am
This time next week, Mitt and Paul will be looking for work in their beloved private sector.
No more Uncle Sam haters, trickle downers and chickenhawks in the White House, thank you very much.
The most interesting aspect of this election is whether deprved pigs like Joe Walsh and Alan West get kicked to the curb, as well.
Better luck in 2016, neocons…
Or maybe 2020…
Or maybe 2024…
Or maybe….
(LOL!)
Georgia
November 2nd, 2012
10:39 am
Prediction? Yeah, I gotta prediction: PAIN! (for Romummy, the burned out carcass of an overcooked turkey.)
The unelectable creep shoulda paced himself. Debate1 was all he had, but boy, wasn’t he good for an hour and a half? Wasn’t he? Wow! Snaps for Romney!!!!
Seems a shame.
Electoral College
November 2nd, 2012
10:40 am
“Sorry, Partisay, but I will be steadfast in defending America against those who wish her ill or actively work against her. ”
What exactly does that “defending” consist of, a made in China US flag magnet on your car?
bu2
November 2nd, 2012
10:41 am
Romney wins by a narrow margin. Ohio and Florida have been hit so badly and their recovery so slow that the undecideds there go to Romney much the way Reagan turned a close race into a landslide. NC and VA return to the Republicans and Mormon volunteers help turn out the Romney vote in Colorado. Romney’s familiarity squeaks out a win in NH. That comes to 279.
Several states will be very close and whoever wins will get less than 300 electoral votes.
rosemary
November 2nd, 2012
10:41 am
as another ‘non-american’.. let me just say …yes I do believe a lot of you deserve Romney.. but obama’s is going to win .. and you will just have to fester for another 4 years ..
Your standing in the world went up a few notches when Obama got into office.. no quick fixes.. you need Obama for the next 4 years .
bu2
November 2nd, 2012
10:43 am
And we will still have gridlock, because the Republicans ran some idiots and will fail to win back the Senate. It will still be 51 or 52 Democrats.
Dusty
November 2nd, 2012
10:45 am
Is there anybody left over at Bookman’s blog? Seems they all came here just to be disagreeable.
Really does not matter. But it is vital that Romney win this election.
Obama has raised the national debt to 16 trillion, the greatest deficit this country has ever experienced. Romney has experience in finances, in business affairs where he made decisions, and the experience of running an entire state.
Obama’s record shows little more than inexperience and failure. He has not made America proud, debt free, inspired or employed. For the sake of our country, I have already voted for Romney and hope that others will use their heads instead of rabid propaganda when they make their decision about the next president.
MANGLER
November 2nd, 2012
10:48 am
I’d like to see this exact article, word for word, pop up over on Jay’s blog.
I’d be curious to see what the vote tallies were for the same story, word for word, but on an opposing blog. Would there be a difference or no?
Care to try?
WOW
November 2nd, 2012
10:50 am
bu2:
Have you seen the unemployment rate in Ohio? It is one of if not the lowest in the country. They have the highest right/track wrong track #’s of any swing state. Which is why there hasn’t been a poll out showing Romney leading there.
Lil' Barry Bailout - Vote American
November 2nd, 2012
10:51 am
Do you think of all Vets (and let’s just add former POW’s) that vote democrat in that manner?
———
As I’ve made clear in the past, many who think of themselves as Democrats will be doing the right thing by their country and voting against Obozo. Voting for Obozo is a vote against what our vets fought for. Some will vote for Obozo out of ignorance, some out of habit, some out of greed for other people’s property, some because they support Obozo’s effort to bring America low.
I can’t read minds, so you’ll have to figure out why your dad voted against his country’s interests on your own.
Kyle Wingfield
November 2nd, 2012
10:52 am
MANGLER: You’ll have to ask Jay about that.
Rush
November 2nd, 2012
10:52 am
I think dementia has set in, Finn.
Lil' Barry Bailout - Vote American
November 2nd, 2012
10:54 am
And oh, by the way, veterans support Romney by a 24-point margin.
Don't Tread
November 2nd, 2012
10:54 am
If Romney wins, it will be by just a few electoral votes.
We’re getting close to that tipping point (if we’re not there already, we’ll see) where people will vote for “free ride” over freedom.
Rush
November 2nd, 2012
10:55 am
Jamvet:
The private sector is precious….question is who will you go to for your monthly payouts when the gov’t. cuts you off? With your dour attitude I think a street corner and a tin cup are calling your name.
lefty_316
November 2nd, 2012
10:56 am
Because women in Ohio and Virginia are very angry about absurd and idiotic restrictions put on abortion in those two critical swing states by republican legislatures, they will vote to sweep those morally corrupt old white men out of office. And in the process they will send Obama back to the White House for a 2nd term.
When will the GOP do the right thing for the country and get out of the religion business?
Tiberius - pulling the tail of the left AND right
November 2nd, 2012
10:57 am
Rosemary, the really nice thing is that I don’t give a crap what non-Americans think I
of us or our elections.
Just don’t bother calling us when you want your next bailout or rescue from a tyrannical neighbor, OK?
Lil' Barry Bailout - Vote American
November 2nd, 2012
10:58 am
Unemployment higher today than when Obozo took office.
Sad.
Don't Tread
November 2nd, 2012
11:00 am
“Unemployment higher today than when Obozo took office.”
But we all know that’s Bush’s fault
joe
November 2nd, 2012
11:02 am
I usually don’t go for this stuff, but here’s an interesting take on November 6:
Mercury goes into retrograde on Tuesday, November 6, meaning the road that we have been on for five years since 2008 now requires that we make choices and decisions. The climb to the summit has ended but now we must choose the directions we need to go, to pursue the spiritual journey, purpose and pathway for 2013. This Mercury retrograde is setting the stage from the incredible climb since 2008, to now make choices of the path to pursue that takes us into our true purpose.
All of the challenges, difficulties and accomplishments can now become part of our shift into a new world. 2012 is a universal FIVE year (in numerology terms) which represents CHANGE, BREAKTHROUGH AND FREEDOM. You will need to be ready to break free from the past and move into new directions, shifting your goals, location and purpose. The day before Mercury turns retrograde, the planet of Uranus turns retrograde, to begin the changes that will come with the changing winds of Uranus. It is time to break free from the past situations in which we have been diligently working since 2008. It is now time to let go of the challenging climb and to instead look to the new directions pulling us. New avenues come into view and pull us toward our creative expression. We have set a new pace for 2012, now it is time to heed the call.
Sounds like a Romney win to me…
Tom(Independent Viet Vet-USAF)
November 2nd, 2012
11:05 am
Jamvet@10:37 – you really don’t think Mitt will be looking for a job do you? I think he has a few dollars to be retired on!
yuzeyurbrane
November 2nd, 2012
11:05 am
Poll results are interesting but are skewed because of conservative nature of most of your posters. Nevertheless, I agree with your basic assessment of state of play.
Lil' Barry Bailout - Vote American
November 2nd, 2012
11:06 am
Stocks Fall on Jobs Report
——-
We expected better.
We can do better.
Vote American.
Tiberius - pulling the tail of the left AND right
November 2nd, 2012
11:08 am
Nice to see liberals like lefty316 think women are so shallow that they are single issue voters.
They’re not all like AmVet.
Partisay
November 2nd, 2012
11:09 am
So I take your answer is yes, you think of many Vets and former POW’s as “non-Americans.”
And I thought the republicans were suppossed to be patriotic ones…
Bruno
November 2nd, 2012
11:09 am
If you value freedom, you sure don’t want more Scalia’s and Thomas’s on the Court.
Pretty funny analysis, Cherokee. Are you familiar with the “Kelo vs. City of New London” case??
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kelo_v._City_of_New_London
Finn McCool (The System isn't Broken; It's Fixed)
November 2nd, 2012
11:13 am
from David Letterman Show:
Biden’s top 10 reasons for voting early
10. I’m not saying each early voter gets a free cheeseburger, but I’m not saying they don’t either.
9. It’s vastly more effective than voting late.
8. You know who votes early? People with a backbone like a ramrod.
7. In a less crowded polling center, there’s plenty of room to stretch out, linger and relax.
6. If you vote early you don’t have to pay taxes. I’m sorry I’m being told that’s not accurate.
5. Single and looking to mingle? Find that special someone in the early voting booth.
4. Of course, there’s the open bar.
3. Not exercising your right to vote is malarkey – it’s literally malarkey.
2. Early voters will receive a $5 million donation from Donald Trump.
1. Honestly, don’t you want this election over with already?
Finn McCool (The System isn't Broken; It's Fixed)
November 2nd, 2012
11:13 am
And I thought the republicans were suppossed to be patriotic ones…
Not really. Another one of their fabrications.
MarkV
November 2nd, 2012
11:15 am
Dusty @10:45 am
Dusty,
I would not expect anything else from you than what you have written about Romney and Obama, no matter how much I disagree. But I wonder why you keep repeating that “Obama has raised the national debt to 16 trillion, the greatest deficit this country has ever experienced.” As I have pointed out to you a few days ago, EVERY president in recent history raised the national debt to the greatest amount this country had ever experienced. (And please, for next time, do not confuse national debt and deficit.)
Dusty
November 2nd, 2012
11:16 am
Mangler,
Tthere are very few conservatives on Bookman’s blog as you probably know.. He has “moderated out” quite a few conservatives and some left because of the uncontrolled virulence and partiality there. That might give you a clue as to how a poll might go on political matters.
Kyle keeps this atmosphere a little more thoughtful . I believe a poll here might reflect veracity and thought not found at Bookman’s.
Finn McCool (The System isn't Broken; It's Fixed)
November 2nd, 2012
11:20 am
He has “moderated out” quite a few conservatives and some left because of the uncontrolled virulence and partiality there
Oh oh, the conservative victimization is back. boo hoo.
I’m sure we will have tons of that to wade through after Tuesday. Guess I’ll either rub it in and then just ignore it.
Electoral College
November 2nd, 2012
11:24 am
Mangler
Keep in mind, some of those bringing up Bookman; were bloggers there at one time.
Their inabilities to control their emotions and rants led them to take shelter elsewhere.
Getting past that, Kyle writes some good columns.
Dusty
November 2nd, 2012
11:25 am
Mark V
Call it what you want. Debt, deficit, owed, underwater, overboard, out in space, China’s chokehold, and keep explaining how you dismiss the failing finances of this country under Obama. Dance to the twist any time you feel like it.
If you want to be a blind protege of Obama’s, go ahead. But no president has raised a debt more than Obama even if we add your two cents.
Electoral College
November 2nd, 2012
11:29 am
Dusty
Just don’t kick the dog on Tuesday night or Wednesday morning.
281 to 257 Obama.
All your rants and excuses will not change that.
Finn McCool (The System isn't Broken; It's Fixed)
November 2nd, 2012
11:29 am
Staten Island has been the scene of some of the most heartbreaking storm-related devastation, especially on the South Shore where numerous trapped residents had to be rescued.
What part of “Evacuate” and “GTF Out Now” do people not understand? One lady lost her two sons when she tried to escape after it was too late. Come on, people.
Dusty
November 2nd, 2012
11:35 am
Finn
Put down your stone axe and your Dem paychecks and head over to Bookman’s lovely place. You fit in prefectly there. I wonder why you are here.
Naw, I don’t wonder too much. It is too obvious why you are here. A little bit of moola is better than nothing.
That goes for you too ELECTORAL COLLEGE. Many of us did try Bookmans after Luckovich’s blog closed and our conservative editor retired. But bogged in the mire became too much. There are a few enjoyable people left there but NOT MANY .
Why are you here?
Tom(Independent Viet Vet-USAF)
November 2nd, 2012
11:36 am
Finn@10:24 – Finally we can agree on something. If Geither would take Eric Holder(Atty General) with him?
JamVet
November 2nd, 2012
11:37 am
Tom, good point.
The guy who hides his money overseas was born filthy rich; I forgot.
Rushmeat, had you served this country, in any fashion(!), much less received a paycheck from Uncle Sam, maybe you wouldn’t hate him so much.
Then again, once a brainless ingrate, always a brainless ingrate…
BTW, got any good videos of those sluts, prostitutes and FemiNazis?
josel536
November 2nd, 2012
11:39 am
Can American trust Romney. Liar Liar
MarkV
November 2nd, 2012
11:39 am
Dusty @11:25 am
Dusty,
With all due respect, the problem is that you keep writing things you do not understand, and which are patently false. Not to mention the obligatory accusations like “blind protege of Obama’s.”
For one thing, no president really “raises a debt.” Perhaps you have not noticed, but it is the Congress that “raises a debt.” Second, you apparently also have not noticed the deep recession Obama’s term started with. Do you think it had nothing to do with the increase in the national debt? I could point out, for instance, that Ronald Reagan increased the national debt by 189%, more than twice percentage of Obama’s increase. I am not saying that it is an argument I would actually use, but it is no worse than what you argue.
josel536
November 2nd, 2012
11:39 am
Can America trust Romney. Liar Liar
JamVet
November 2nd, 2012
11:40 am
Tthere are very few conservatives on Bookman’s blog…
Actually there are about 15 of them masquerading under a plethora of fifty names.
Now that, ladies and gentlemen, is a sign of “conservative courage”!
Numerous others – most of them now here – could not play nicely with the other children and were sent to permanent timeout, after repeated warnings and violations. Which helped that forum, considerably.
Silly little sock puppets…
Electoral College
November 2nd, 2012
11:41 am
Dusty
Not for you to tell me which blog I need to be at or not.
I will blog here as long as I please. UNDERSTAND, if not today is the day you need to start.
You fit the category of those from all political stripes who do not like other views. You are comfortable being in the choir and being preached too. That is your choice, but not your choice where I blog nor anyone else for that matter.
I have seen read you whining about this very thing numerous times. GET OVER IT.
If you can’t, blogspot.com is waiting for you.
And have a wonderful day.
Dusty
November 2nd, 2012
11:43 am
Electoral College,
Control yourself. I don’t have a dog and have never kicked one.
I have a life outside of politics and have been blessed with a great family.
I want to keep our country in its best position and I don’t think Obama is the man to do it. He did not the first four years and I have not voted for him this time. There’s no hate involved. Just concern.
Maybe that is too much for you to comprehend. but try.
Electoral College
November 2nd, 2012
11:44 am
Dusty
I didn’t vote for Obama last time either, but surely not voting for Romney this time.
You do know that you do not have to vote Dem or Repub, right?
Dusty
November 2nd, 2012
11:47 am
Jamvet, aka Mr. Happiness
How’s the weather in Doraville? Over at Bookman’s?
Electoral College
November 2nd, 2012
11:47 am
Dusty
And “hate”? You brought up that word. Must have been a Freudian slip, but that is alright because you have that right.
JDW
November 2nd, 2012
11:49 am
I see the Rasmussen correction is beginning….todays poll is a tie down from Romney +2 which was down from Romney +4 which was down from Romeny +6. By the time Tuesday arrives they will be back to reality.
splavistic
November 2nd, 2012
11:51 am
I’ll make it for you, Kyle. Obama WINS! Also, can you tell me why Evangelicals are o.k. with voting for a Mormon? http://carm.org/joseph-smith-quotes
Dusty
November 2nd, 2012
11:52 am
Electoral College,
Your simplicity is amazing. I have already voted by absentee ballot for a man I think is quite capable of running this country. That’s Romney.
Vote for whom you please and blog where you desire. This is a free country and i want it to stay that way .If you don’t like what I write, then don’t read it. OK??
Tom(Independent Viet Vet-USAF)
November 2nd, 2012
11:53 am
Two comments here – (1) When Romney wins 35-38 states, Obama wins 12-15 states, is it Fair and Balanced for Obama to be re-elected? Will we still be the USA(United States of America) or do we become the UUSA(Un-United States of America)? (2) Already got a plan in mind if Obama is re-elected. I will immediately contact federal govt to get my free Obama phone and get my free stuff, just like the liberals do.All cons should do the same, everyone get your free stuff and then the tax-payers will get pissed! The money will eventually run out for everyone, then we will be just like Greece!
jconservative
November 2nd, 2012
11:53 am
I will make my prediction Monday afternoon.
I am struggling with how to handle one development. The weekend before the Denver debate Romney felt it necessary to move past the center to the left. Why?
Speculation leads me to believe that they did not believe they could win without that move. To me that means they are dependent on the ladies vote from the Democratic center; call them Romney Female Democrats. Those ladies may hold the election in their hands. Will that move to the left be successful?
Today I do not know.
Electoral College
November 2nd, 2012
11:55 am
Dusty
Simplicity is your middle name. You are a walking talking point for the right wing. Your choice, but don’t cry and whine as you usually do by telling others to blog elsewhere.
You do not run this blog nor have you been appointed to be the sherrif.
Grasp that and you will feel better about yourself. If you are unable to do so, I have some swiss and Gouda that I can offer you to go along with that whine of yours.
JamVet
November 2nd, 2012
11:56 am
Not too bad, Dusters.
Chilly, but sunny.
Bookman’s is rocking. As always…
Lou
November 2nd, 2012
11:56 am
If you do not remember what our last republican president along with Darth Vader. pillaged our world with lies and half truths and entered into a war which would be paid for with Iraqi oil {BS} and Caused misery beyond comprehension then vote for Romney the warmonger. War is good for business and millionaire portfolios.Smarten up and put O’Bama back so that he can finally achieve something that the repugnant party won’tveto.
Electoral College
November 2nd, 2012
11:57 am
Dusty
Just as you reserve the right to respond to any post, I will gladly do the same.
Thanks for your concern.
And again, have a wonderful day grazing……..
independent thinker
November 2nd, 2012
11:57 am
All the the voters have to do is compare today’s unemployment stats to 23% when Hoover left office after three years of the same economic meltdown as OBama was given by George Bush. However that takes some rational thinking.Most cons can’t do that and let El Rushbo, Hannity , Rove and Coulter tell them what to think.
St Simons
November 2nd, 2012
12:06 pm
we (barely) survived 8 years of Little Nero with a Cowboy Hat
you will survive 16 years of Obama, Hillary, & E Warren
Tom(Independent Viet Vet-USAF)
November 2nd, 2012
12:09 pm
independent thinker@11:57 – Nice name dropping! How about Reid, Pelosi, Chris Matthews, Racheal Madcow?
southpaw
November 2nd, 2012
12:10 pm
“War is good for business.” Ferengi Rule of Acquisition #34. But don’t forget Rule #35: “Peace is good for business.”
http://projectsanctuary.com/the_complete_ferengi_rules_of_acquisition.htm
Lil' Barry Bailout - Vote American
November 2nd, 2012
12:10 pm
splavistic: can you tell me why Evangelicals are o.k. with voting for a Mormon?
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Because they aren’t as bigoted as most libtards?
Jeff
November 2nd, 2012
12:12 pm
A. Nelson, Everyone on the world hates us, Why should America do anything for the poor in other countries? They us the aid we give them to build terrorist networks to attack us later.. And if you think America is the reason these other people are poor then your wrong. We have already helped more people in the world than any other civilization in the history of the world..
Dusty
November 2nd, 2012
12:13 pm
MarkV
Woujld you please put in writing this statement which you declare is true. AMERICAN IS NOT IN DEBT.
If you are not a protoge of Obama’s would you also explain why you consider his every move something remarkable? We have already seen strong presidents: FDR, Truman and yes, Bush. .Obama is not one of them. Nothing gets better with him even if you dig up a few small increases or decreases and picture them as marvelous.
No, I do not excel in the knowledge of economics as perhaps you do but i do manage my own quite well.
If you want to have a discussion of hematology I will be a bit more knowledgeable.
Adios!!
redneckbluedog
November 2nd, 2012
12:15 pm
cc
November 2nd, 2012
5:52 am
Only four days left before the end of the leftists’ dreams!
I can hardly wait!
It will be President-Elect Romney after Tuesday, and President Romney in January, 2013.
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Are you even looking at your own state’s polling..? You should just pretend that President Obama is a Republican for the next four years, who hates science and women and just about everything…
and even then you STILL won’t be happy….This has more to do with your personal unhappiness than your politics…and that is sad…
redneckbluedog
November 2nd, 2012
12:16 pm
St Simons
November 2nd, 2012
12:06 pm
we (barely) survived 8 years of Little Nero with a Cowboy Hat
you will survive 16 years of Obama, Hillary, & E Warren
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and then Cuomo…
Jaime
November 2nd, 2012
12:16 pm
Vote for Obama and the US will ceased to exist as it was and always been….but Benghazi’s Impeachment will kick his ass out of the WH. The circle of life continues in Obama father’s DNA was a buffoon and so is Obama… read my lips.
Taipei Personality
November 2nd, 2012
12:18 pm
The election comes down to this…Democrats are expecting equal or better turnout than in 2008. Won’t happen, economy just not doing well enough to expect that. GOP is expecting equal or better turnout than in 2010. That won’t happen either, Romney is just not conservative enough to get that much enthusiasm. Early voting usually favors Dems, but lots of reports that GOP is showing up early too. I expect polling locations to be steady but not crazy on Tuesday. The election is coming down to Ohio. I foresee Obama leading 263 to 253, with Ohio going undetermined for several days if not weeks due to voting machine and absentee ballot issues. Winner gets the spoils. BTW, that also explains why Romney is in PA, he is hedging bets and trying to win next closest (vote, not just geography) state, so that optimistically he could be ahead 273 to 243 and Ohio would not matter. But I don’t see him pulling it off. My hope is that whoever wins takes both EC and popular vote, do not want another 2000!
Tom(Independent Viet Vet-USAF)
November 2nd, 2012
12:20 pm
An earlier poster said something about Obama being a Harvard grad.That is special to say the least. Wonder who paid the tuition, around $200,000 I think? I am curious, is that completely sealed from American public? Is that what knucklehead Trump was seeking to find out? Hey KYLE, do you know?
Electoral College
November 2nd, 2012
12:24 pm
Tom
Birther much or did you finally move past that?
Tiberius - pulling the tail of the left AND right
November 2nd, 2012
12:26 pm
Not surprisingly, few of the libs are willing to back up their predictions with anything approaching thoughtful analysis.
Hillbilly D
November 2nd, 2012
12:36 pm
Laugh about it, shout about it when you’ve got to choose…
Ev’ry way you look at it, you lose.
Paul Simon
Will
November 2nd, 2012
12:44 pm
President Obama will be re-elected by winning swing states Nevada, Iowa, New Hampshire and Ohio and possilbly Colorado. He will lose swing states Florida, North Carolina, and and possibly Colorado.
He will lose Wisconsin, not considered a swing state, and this will be the biggest surprise of the night.
And the political party of the “pale male” will be left wondering how it could have possibly lost this election to such a weak incumbent. Mainstream republicans will blame the hard right wing of the party and the hard right wing of the party will argue that Romney was never their choice in the first place.
In 2016 the hard right wing of the party will “wise up”, quit supporting multiple hard right wing candidates in the primaries thus allowing mainstream republicans like Romney, McCain and Bush to win the nomination. These hard right wingers will secure the nomination for someone like Santorium and then will lose the 2016 election in an electoral landslide.
An almost more improbable story of the election will be the democrats maintaining a majority in the US Senate. For this, there will be little doubt that the hard right wing gave away control of the senate by nominating senate candidates like Akin and that yahoo in Indiana.
Since the hard right wing of the party dominates in Georgia, Senator Chambliss will lose the republican primary in Georgia unless the hard right wingers are split among multiple candidates in the primary.
JamVet
November 2nd, 2012
12:47 pm
Wow!
306 of you actually voted that Flip Robme will win???
Of course, take out the fifty times that Lil BB voted and the 45 from tibs and the number is more realistic.
No matter, because either way, prepare to be very disappointed next week.
The right-wing American fascists and union-busters in the GOP are likely going to lose Ohio, Wisconsin, Minnesota, Iowa, Colorado and Pennsylvania.
Game, set, match.
Better luck in 2016.
When the ticket will be………………………….
Bush/Hoover! (The sound Economy Ticket!)
Tom(Independent Viet Vet-USAF)
November 2nd, 2012
12:49 pm
Electoral College – So if I would like to find out about who paid $200,000 tuition for the Harvard grad, in your simple mind that makes me a birther? How pathetic you libs are, that is simply BS!!
Tom(Independent Viet Vet-USAF)
November 2nd, 2012
12:56 pm
I get sick and tired of you libs talking about Bush’s two wars. The House and Senate approved and financed, you seem to forget that! When 3,000 Americans were murdered on 9-11, what would you libs have done, turned the other cheek? What a bunch of passive wussies!! It was time to get some “payback” but you occupy community organizer types will never understand that!
Bill Campbell
November 2nd, 2012
12:57 pm
There are enough slackers, morons and lazy butts to keep Obama in office!
Tom(Independent Viet Vet-USAF)
November 2nd, 2012
12:59 pm
Aquagirl – Are you serious? Maybe some of us cons could take up a collection for a one-way ticket?
Signified
November 2nd, 2012
1:06 pm
Hey Republicans – don’t like climate change? Just deny science is real!!! Yeah. Don’t like statistical analysis? No problem – math isn’t real either. Unfortunately for you, neither is Republican tax dogma. Turns out, it’s just a dog!!!! hahahahahahaha!!!
The Congressional Research Service has withdrawn an economic report that found no correlation between top tax rates and economic growth, a central tenet of conservative economic theory, after Senate Republicans raised concerns about the paper’s findings and wording.
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/11/02/business/questions-raised-on-withdrawal-of-congressional-research-services-report-on-tax-rates.html
whaaa whaaaa whaaaaa crying like little babies. Take your report down- it’s mean to us! whaaa whaaa whaaaa…. greedy selfish babies.
td
November 2nd, 2012
1:11 pm
“I’m not asking you to make a case for your preferred candidate, just to tell us what you think is going to happen.”
It depends on who shows up to the polls. Most of the polls are using the same turn out numbers as 2008. Here is some points to look at.
1: African Americans turned out in record numbers and made up 13% of all people casting votes in 2008. Will that be the case this year?
2: Youth: Young people turned out in record numbers and voted for Obama. Will this happen again?
3: Suburban white married women with children voted 2% more for Obama in 2008. Will that happen again?
4: Religious conservatives was at a record low turnout in 2008 but they were the driving force in 2010 for the Republican take over of the HOR? What will their turnout be this year.
I think African Americans will make up their come back down to casting 11% (every year average except 2008) of all the votes. I feel that the youth is back to being mostly apathetic and will get back to levels in most elections. White Suburban married women with children will give their vote this year to Romney by 4 to 8% and that the religious right is not going to stay home and come back to normal levels this year.
The above will wipe out the 7 point win Obama had and will give Romney a 1 to 2 point win.
Rafe Hollister, suffering through Oblamer's ineptocracy
November 2nd, 2012
1:11 pm
I wish I lived in Cuba!
We wish you did too!. Sometimes wishes come true, wouldn’t that be cool getting to ride around in those 1953 Chevies and eat lite everyday.
MarkV
November 2nd, 2012
1:12 pm
Dusty @12:13 pm: “MarkV. Woujld you please put in writing this statement which you declare is true. AMERICAN IS NOT IN DEBT.”
Dusty,
And why would I write that? Show me any statement I have made in any post, which could be interpreted that way.
“If you are not a protoge of Obama’s would you also explain why you consider his every move something remarkable?”
Ditto.
If you write your opinion that Romney would be a better president than Obama, I will not agree, but I will not argue with you. You are entitled to you opinions and your beliefs. I would not even make snide remarks about your being Romney’s protégé.
But once you start arguing with specific reasons, than either those are rational and truthful, or they are not. I have pointed out your statements, which were not either.
You can believe that had Romney (or McCain) been elected president in 2008, the economy would now be in better shape. Again, you can believe in anything, even fairytales, that is your privilege. But do not pretend that those beliefs are facts.
Tiberius - pulling the tail of the left AND right
November 2nd, 2012
1:13 pm
And the liberal stupidity continues.
Not a deep thought among you.
Rafe Hollister, suffering through Oblamer's ineptocracy
November 2nd, 2012
1:13 pm
One other benefit of living in Cuba, you don’t have to watch the polls or get anxious over who is going to win the election. If you stay around the USA long enough, we might become Cuba, with everyone on the dole.
Susan Mathis
November 2nd, 2012
1:21 pm
It’s all OBAMA. It’s obvious Romney is getting desperate with his current Jeep ad.
Burrish
November 2nd, 2012
1:25 pm
I agree, America is a failed country. We already messed up, and now we are gonna mess up once again if Romney wins. But its gonna be funny when a race war breaks out. I wonder what will happen then..hmm
Jason(SSG, US Army)
November 2nd, 2012
1:29 pm
I think that most of the media and polls are slanted towards the dems. I wouldn’t be surprised if we saw a break for Romney on election day and wound up with a landslide for the GOP.
I do hope that is the way it goes anyway. I am very concerned with the current administration, and specifically with what Obama meant when he told Medvedev that he would have more flexibility after the election. If he plans on reducing our defenses or some other type of negotiation with Russia, why would he want to wait until after the election. Why be secretive. Very interesting to see how this “most transparent government” is working out for us.
Good luck Romney/Ryan, and good luck to us all.
Taipei Personality
November 2nd, 2012
1:30 pm
Burrish…what could possibly be funny about a race war? A landslide for either candidate would help alleviate that concern. But not sure that is likely.
Taipei Personality
November 2nd, 2012
1:32 pm
Jason, thank you for your service to our great country! I am sorry for the ambiguity that you in the armed forces must be serving under right now, and there are plenty of us ready to go out there and vote for a more responsible commander-in-chief!
Aquagirl
November 2nd, 2012
1:33 pm
Aquagirl – Are you serious?
No Tom, that was a namejacker. But your credulity is not surprising.
td
November 2nd, 2012
1:34 pm
Burrish
November 2nd, 2012
1:25 pm
It is not funny but it could become a reality when Romney wins if what I have been reading on twitter comes to be true. Let us hope and pray that those with the anger are just blowing off steam and will not follow through with their threats.
bu2
November 2nd, 2012
1:36 pm
@allegedly Independent Thinker
Texas had a similar real estate recession in the 80s, except it was worse. It was estimated 1 in 4 Houstonians lost their jobs in 1986. Unemployment peaked at over 13%. Nearly every S&L went under. All but one of the major banks went under or was acquired. My townhouse which was going for 80k at the peak (I bought at 66k) had a “twin” sell for 12k in 1986. 80% of the people in my townhouse complex got foreclosed on (often their choice).
There was no trillion $ stimulus. Yet in 3 years everything was back to normal. In 4 years, Obama has made things worse.
Obama thought unemployment would peak at 8% or so. And it might have if he didn’t tell everyone every day how bad it was going to be. Bill Clinton finally had to tell him to just shut up in February. I’d sent him an e-mail when he was elected telling him (not that I expected anyone to pay attention) he needed to tone down the negative waves. Millions are unemployed because he couldn’t quit complaining and he destroyed consumer confidence. He didn’t understand the power of the presidency. He just didn’t get the job.
He still talks about Bush tax policies causing the recession. It was a simple real estate bust, like many we have had in the past. He just doesn’t get the economy.
He tried to spend 51 billion on high speed rail when we had record deficits and huge unemployment. He had the only Congress (a democratic one in both houses) to never pass the budget. He just doesn’t get budgets.
We had unemployment and fear and the 1st act he does as president is provide funding for agencies that provide abortions overseas. He just doesn’t get the job.
And he has no ideas or plans to fix the economy. He has no ideas or plans to fix social security, just to pretend there is no problem. He has no ideas or plans to fix medicare, just to pretend you can magically fix it by continuing to reduce what you pay doctors. He has no ideas or plans to solve the terrorist threat in Afghanistan (ok, that’s a tough one), just ignore it by getting out on a predetermined date.
bu2
November 2nd, 2012
1:37 pm
@WOW
6.5% unemployment in Ohio is not the lowest in the country. And for 3 years, they were one of the worst. Maybe the fact that it has dropped about 2% in the last year is helping Obama. And home prices have been hit very bad there.
Jason(SSG, US Army)
November 2nd, 2012
1:39 pm
Signified – Global warming has pretty much been debunked now. Since you like science, I suggest that you look at something other than the last 100 years, where the average temperature has increased by less than one degree. In fact, the earth is currently in a cool period. I suggest a little research before you post. Also, as far as your economic “facts”…..it is a fact that if we tax the American people at greater than 18% of GDP, which we are very close to now, revenue decreases. That means that raising taxes will acutally result in less money going in to the government. While we clearly need to tax people, we cannot simply tax our way out of a $16 trillion debt.
bu2
November 2nd, 2012
1:40 pm
@Jason
Polls are increasingly unreliable because more people don’t respond. No way to tell if those people slant one way or the other.
It was interesting how last month the media spins the drop in the unemployment rate despite the anemic job growth. This month all the headlines are the better than expected job growth (not that it is that great) and the increase in the unemployment rate is a footnote in all the stories.
Jason(SSG, US Army)
November 2nd, 2012
1:41 pm
Taipei personality- you are very welcome. Lets make sure that we all get out there and vote. I am ready for REAL change.
harold
November 2nd, 2012
1:44 pm
PEOPLE IN NEW YORK ARE WONDERING WHERE FEMA IS???THIS IS WORSE THAN KATRINA!
PEOPLE ARE LOOKING IN GARBAGE CANS FOR FOOD. THERE IS NO HEAT. FOR MANY THERE IS NO SHELTER.
WHERE IS THE PRESIDENT? HE SHOULD BE IN NEW YORK AND HE IS OUT CAMPAIGNING IN OHIO———-ARE YOU KIDDING ME? HE IS A HORRIBLE LEADER.
IT IS GOING TO GET BRUTALLY COLD UP THERE—NO FOOD–NO WATER—NO GAS—AND WHERE IS THE NATIONAL NEWS MEDIA ON REPORTING THIS LACK OF LEADERSHIP????
harold
November 2nd, 2012
1:48 pm
Why isn’t The National News media reporting on plights of people in New York?
This is worse than Katrina. No food–no gas–no water–no President—he is in Ohio campaigning.
Are you kidding me? Where is FEMA?
Tom(Independent Viet Vet-USAF)
November 2nd, 2012
1:51 pm
Aquagirl@1:33 – Sorry, my mistake! I thought you always seemed a little off but not over the edge yet. Perhaps some Obama Care would help?
Taipei Personality
November 2nd, 2012
1:53 pm
harold…thank you for finding the caps lock key! You make a good point, the media is certainly calling this differently from Katrina. time will tell what the long term costs are comparatively though. that said, it is indeed bad. let them eat marathons!
ATLien
November 2nd, 2012
1:58 pm
Tom,
What is you point about the tuition? Seriously what are you getting at? Will you inquire about every private citizen in graduate school and how they could afford the tuition? Who paid Mitt’s tuition? Who paid McCain’s tuition? Who paid Cantor’s tuition? Are you assuming that some terrorist mastermind paid for it? Honestly why is this the question you ask? IDIOT.
ATLien
November 2nd, 2012
2:00 pm
bu2,
That’s right let’s compare a state problem to a national one. Yeah that’s really sound analysis on your part.
Tom(Independent Viet Vet-USAF)
November 2nd, 2012
2:01 pm
Atlien – Not a private citizen, he is the President. Seems like you guys are saying the worst, might have been a rich uncle or something. It did not seem like his family could afford it. Why the mystery?
Taipei Personality
November 2nd, 2012
2:03 pm
Tom, I have wondered if perhaps he got a scholarship. Would help if he’d release some records!
Thank you also for your service to our great country!
Electoral College
November 2nd, 2012
2:06 pm
Tom
Your getting sick of this or that is no concern to me……..
But have a great day
ATLien
November 2nd, 2012
2:08 pm
WHO CARES?. Tens of thousands of students go to school on Federal Aid or through grants / scholarships, even if their family couldn’t afford it. At Harvard right now there are tons of students at school through some type of Aid or grant. Why is this important? Should you only be able to go to college if your parents can afford to pay the tuition? All grants and scholarships should cease to exist? Are you jealous that he has degrees from Columbia and Harvard and it was verified and vetted in the nomination process. Mitts degree is more authentic b/c his parent’s left money in a trust to pay for it? Honestly, this is very stupid query.
Kyle Wingfield
November 2nd, 2012
2:09 pm
Aquagirl’s name-jacker at 12:54 is off the blog.
saywhat?
November 2nd, 2012
2:23 pm
Tiberius – pulling the tail of the left AND right when needed
November 2nd, 2012
7:05 am
“With any luck you Paulistas will just leave.
A bigger bunch of sore losers and whiners we have never seen before”
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Really? Apparently somebody doesn’t remember the wailing and gnashing of teeth the morning after the last Presidential election, let alone the last four years (and likely the next four).Probably an instance of not seeing the forest for all the trees.
Wisconsin almost ran out of cheese with all they had to export to go with the whine.
Tom(Independent Viet Vet-USAF)
November 2nd, 2012
2:25 pm
AtLien – Just a question, you do not have to make a federal case out of it. So defensive, why? If someone had asked Bush, Clinton or Reagan, I do not think you have the same response. Why is it, the ATL thing?
Finn McCool (The System isn't Broken; It's Fixed)
November 2nd, 2012
2:30 pm
On Monday the gamblers had Romney as a 2-1 underdog. Today he is a 3-1 underdog.
The gamblers know.
Tom(Independent Viet Vet-USAF)
November 2nd, 2012
2:32 pm
To the real Aquagirl: – Name-jacker off board to Cuba, good riddance!
Dennis
November 2nd, 2012
2:44 pm
Obama or Romney will win big and all Voters will lose big because Romney and Obama are different sides of the same coin!!! ha ha………
Joe MO
November 2nd, 2012
2:59 pm
Uh gawd I just realized that I was reading Klan State Newspaper.
Dean
November 2nd, 2012
3:25 pm
Can’t wait to see this arrogant incompetent president kicked out of office. Who on earth wants to remain unemployed for four more years while Obama polishes his helicopter and takes lavish vacations? You know who’s not going to be taking a vaction, lavish or not? Chris Stevens and three other Americans that are dead because Obama did nothing to help them, as we now know. Frankly, Obama should be impeached and put on trial for treason.
Lil' Barry Bailout - Vote American
November 2nd, 2012
3:29 pm
We can survive four more years of Obozo, if that’s how it goes. How long can we survive the moocher class being in the majority, though?
RSH101
November 2nd, 2012
3:37 pm
WE IN THE SOUTH DEEP SOUTH HAVE BEEN LIVING HURRICANS FOR YEARS. NOW ITS YOUR TURN TO PUT THE BLAM WERE IT SHOULD BE… I REMEMBER OBAMA SAYING HE WOULD BEEF UP FEMA AND TAKE CARE OF EVERYTHING. GUESS WHAT YOU ALL ARE STILL WITH OUT FOOD WATER GAS ELECTRICITY.. YOU SHOULD BE ASHAMED MR PRESIDENT….. OH I FORGOT THIS IS A GUY WHO LET 4 AMERICANS DIE IN BENGHAZI……..WHAT ABOUT YOU ALL, THINK HE CARES. ALL HE CARES ABOUT IS HIS REELECTION……………………
Lil' Barry Bailout - Vote American
November 2nd, 2012
3:38 pm
Obozo entrusted the security of Americans working in Benghazi to Libyan rent-a-cops.
Pure genius.
RSH101
November 2nd, 2012
3:48 pm
ALL YOU FOREIGNERS HAVE NO SAY SO ABOUT ANYTHING….. ITS NOT ABOUT RACE ANYMORE ITS ABOUT TRUTH JUSTICE AND HONESTY. A LIAR HAS TO TELL MORE LIES TO COVER UP THE FIRST AND THEN THE SECOND AND THEN THE THIRD. LOOK AT ALL THE COVER UP OBAMA HASDONE TO SEAL HIS RECORDS. SPENT MILLIONS TO COVER THEM UP. NOBODY REALLY KNOWS THIS GUY……………………… BUT YOU WOULD VOTE FOR HIM….. THE LARGEST NUMBER OF BLACK AMERICANS OUT OF WORK IN US HISTORY AND ITS MAINLY DUE TO OBAMA…. WAKE UP PEOPLE.
RSH101
November 2nd, 2012
3:57 pm
TOO MANY PEOPLE SITTING BACK THINKING YEA HE IS GONNA TAKE CARE OF ME. I GOTTA PUT HIM BACK IN OFFICE. BUT IN REALITY HE HAS DONE NOTHING FOR YOU. NOTHING..HE HAS DONE NOTHING TO HELP YOU LIVE THE AMERICAN DREAM HAS HE. YOU STILL LIVING IN GOVERNMENT HOUSING, ON GOVERNMENT LAND AND GETTING WELFARE..YOU DO NOT EVEN REALIZE THAT BECAUSE OF THE GOVERNMENT YOU DON’T EVEN GET QUALITY HEALTH CARE… YOU GET WHAT THE GOVERNMENT SAYS YOU CAN HAVE.. PEOPLE WITH INSURENCE THAT BUY THEIR OWN INSURENCE GET ALOT BETTER HEALTH CARE… SO WHY DON’Y YOU GO GET A JOB AND BUY YOUR OWN HOUSE, LAND AND GOOD HEALTH CARE… OH I FORGOT THERE AINT NO JOBS HA HA HA HA HA HA .. OBAMA DID THAT…………….
Lori
November 2nd, 2012
3:57 pm
I hope Obama gets a 2nd term. I don’t feel we’re on the wrong track as a nation as I did in `08.
RSH101
November 2nd, 2012
4:00 pm
LORI YOU NEED TO GET OFF OF WELFARE AND GET A LIFE……………………..
RSH101
November 2nd, 2012
4:07 pm
CHEROKEE YOU NEED A LIFE AS YOU ARE PROBABLY NOT A REAL NATIVE AMERICAN. AND IF YOU ARE YOU NEED YOUR HEAD EXAMINED… YOU ARE NOT INTOUCH WITH YOUR KIN OR ANCESTORS OR FOR THAT MATTER WITH OTHER NATIVE AMERICANS… WE WANT HIM OUT……. GET WITH THE PROGRAM
biguy
November 2nd, 2012
9:48 pm
I’m afraid that when obama loses, the blacks will riot to the point that the riots of 1968 will look like a sunday picnic. Hey white people. Stock up on ammo!!!!
GJ
November 2nd, 2012
11:05 pm
Apparently, by not supporting Romney I’m not an American, Barry? I’m every bit as American as any other commenter here.
I don’t truly want any of the Presidential candidates, but I especially do not want Mitt Romney to win the presidency, no way no how.
rosemary
November 2nd, 2012
11:09 pm
Tiberius – cluelessly pulling the tail of the left AND right
I know you don’t son!..ignorance is bliss.
even you would have noticed the rolling conflict in the middle east ..
we are still helping you in Afghanistan .. perhaps closer to the mark would be …”Just don’t bother calling us when you want your next bailout or rescue from a tyrannical neighbor, OK?”.. OK
ATLien
November 3rd, 2012
12:51 am
Tom,
It’s not a question that you would ask of Bush, Reagan, Clinton, Carter or any other of the 43 presidents. That’s the point. The same way no other president’s American citizenship has been questioned. So you and I know this is not an innocuous question on your part. You and people of your ilk have other motives and its quite disrespectful.
Lil' Barry Bailout - Vote American
November 3rd, 2012
6:18 am
GJ: I’m every bit as American as any other commenter here.
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How do you figure? You apparently plan to support someone who doesn’t like America, someone who is working hard to destroy our free market capitalist foundation, who has no respect for private property rights, who believes government should decide how much people make. If that’s what you support, then you’re not an American.
Vicky
November 3rd, 2012
7:45 am
President Obama took an oath to protect our troops and our country and it really makes me sick to know he let those two men die and sit there watching them beg for help. President Obama did this for the sake of the election and then lied to America about it. HE’S GOT TO GO
Cameron Jarman
November 3rd, 2012
12:29 pm
Lil Bar Bar need s to think again! and again and again! President Obama will win again! Try to contain your anger issues!
GaVoter
November 3rd, 2012
2:58 pm
Yesterday in Oh Romney drew a crowd of 30,000 while O drew a crowd of 2800 and this morning in Oh O only drew a crowd of 4000. So this doesn’t look promising for O in Oh. Just saying
dawn myl
November 3rd, 2012
5:09 pm
Romny is a flat out liar ..republicans will wish they voted for obama if he wins
Jaddy Baddy
November 4th, 2012
1:59 pm
Does Middle America honestly believe that Barack
Obama is going to take Oprah Winfrey’s money away
from her, and give it to Middle Class America?
Do you think Michael Jordan would support a president
who was going to take away his money and give to You?
Would P Diddy, George Clooney, Barbara Streisand or
Brad Pitt honestly support a president who took their
money and gave it to Middle Class America? You may
like to Imagine they would, but would they?
Quite the opposite, Barack Obama has taken your
Middle Class America’s tax dollars and given them
to, count ‘em, Wall Street Bankers, Wall Street
Credit Card Hounds, and Wall Street Mortgage
Brokers. How much bailout money did Barack Obama
give Y O U ? If you got Barack Obama’s bailout,
then vote for him, if not…
When I vote, I won’t be voting for the man who gave
away MY MONEY, I don’t care how many Wall Street
lawyers cried for it. Barack Obama may cut Middle
Class America’s fiscal throat, again, but I am NOT
going to help him do it.
rosemary
November 7th, 2012
7:38 am
I ..told ..you ..so.
Celebrations in Australia.