WATCH VIDEO NOW: My 2012 presidential election chat with Jay Bookman

Jay and I got together with AJC political reporter Aaron Gould Sheinin in a Google Hangout to discuss last night’s presidential debate and our thoughts on how the race is going as of today — and where it’s leading us. Enjoy!

–By Kyle Wingfield

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Georgia

October 23rd, 2012
11:52 am

Kyle opens very strong. He looks great, too. Jay is more animated. Both impressive.

Junior Samples

October 23rd, 2012
11:56 am

Jay needs a better webcam

Will

October 23rd, 2012
11:56 am

Kyle:

I want you to know that, no matter how this election turns out, no one could have tried harder and done more to advance the republican candidate than you.

Day in and day out, regardless of the issue or concern, you have steadfastly stood by the nominee. You have always found the positive in “all things Romney” while at the same time always finding something to fault the President.

You are a standout and standup republican newspaper writer. Republicans should be very thankful they have such a reliable source to get out the word!

Georgia

October 23rd, 2012
12:04 pm

Kyle plays the voter fraud card first. I guess the whole country is thinking another 2000.

Henne

October 23rd, 2012
12:10 pm

Of course, you should realize that you two having identical blogs at the same time is, um, dumb. A little planning as late as 3 p.m. yesterday could have put the to of you together for this one event.

stands for decibels

October 23rd, 2012
12:11 pm

That was fun to watch–thanks for participating in/posting it, Kyle.

Henne

October 23rd, 2012
12:12 pm

Bookman is out of focus, like most of his thoughts.

Kyle Wingfield

October 23rd, 2012
12:13 pm

Will,

And I want you to know that means a lot coming from someone who posted those thoughts before it would have been physically possible to watch the entire video.

Kyle Wingfield

October 23rd, 2012
12:15 pm

Henne @ 12:10: We were planning it well before 3 p.m. yesterday. We have different audiences, so we both posted the video on our respective blogs.

As for the “put the [two] of you together”…do you mean physically in the same building? Because that’s kind of the point of a Google Hangout…

Georgia

October 23rd, 2012
12:15 pm

Great question from moderator: “Do americans want gridlock and status quo.” Sometimes doing nothing is better than doing too much?

@@

October 23rd, 2012
12:18 pm

Good job, Kyle. You displayed some critical thinking skills, while jay was simply critical.

Not surprising.

Congrats on your math skills too. Even jay conceded to your prowess.

(ISH)

getalife

October 23rd, 2012
12:18 pm

Not bad Kyle.

You are not unhinged like the your cons and low keyed with original thoughts.

Kyle Wingfield

October 23rd, 2012
12:18 pm

Georgia @ 12:15: Sometimes, yes. Maybe even often. But the so-called fiscal cliff looms, and gridlock means we go over it. Which wouldn’t be optimal, as Obama might say.

getalife

October 23rd, 2012
12:21 pm

The President will cave again on tax cuts for the wealthy so there will be a deal and no fiscal cliff.

Georgia

October 23rd, 2012
12:24 pm

What a kick it was to see the personalities behind the opinions we’ve only read for years and years. Kyle has a great delivery.

Brosephus™

October 23rd, 2012
12:32 pm

Kyle

I have to commend you on presenting logical arguments on behalf of conservatives across this country. It’s much more refreshing to hear actual thought being hashed out as opposed to rabid rhetorical regurgitations.

But the so-called fiscal cliff looms, and gridlock means we go over it. Which wouldn’t be optimal, as Obama might say.

I haven’t heard hardly any pundit take on Obama’s comment in regards to the fiscal cliff where he stated the cuts wouldn’t happen. I wonder if that comment got lost in the whole bayonet and horse stuff.

md

October 23rd, 2012
12:35 pm

Well Kyle, you looked…….Presidential, and I’ll withhold any other opinions on the other guy.

@@

October 23rd, 2012
12:36 pm

Another thing…while jay is critical of Romney’s flip from far-right to moderate center, he also calls it smart and intelligent.

We are a center-right nation and will remain so, regardless. Romney’s aware of that. Obama? Not so much. He’ll go far left if the door is open. Let’s hope the GOP maintains control in Congress. Gridlock against a leftist would be welcome from my perspective.

Aquagirl

October 23rd, 2012
12:36 pm

I can’t reconcile the calm, rational guy in that video with the one who voted for Newt Gingrich.

@@

October 23rd, 2012
12:38 pm

Aquagirl:

Many conservatives saw Gingrich as moderate. I know, I did.

Kyle Wingfield

October 23rd, 2012
12:40 pm

Thanks for the kind words, everyone. I thought both Jay and Aaron did a great job. If there’s interest, we may try to do it again sometime soon. (Though we’ll probably try to keep it to less than 23 minutes…)

Tiberius - pulling the tail of the left AND right when needed

October 23rd, 2012
12:40 pm

Wow! The camera really does put on 10 lbs. . . . . ;)

getalife

October 23rd, 2012
12:41 pm

Bro,

I caught it.

The wealthy will get their tax cut.

It is very obvious he will make the deal.

They BOTH suck

October 23rd, 2012
12:41 pm

@@

Is Newt moderate in terms of economic policy, social policy or both?

They BOTH suck

October 23rd, 2012
12:42 pm

Kyle

Good job indeed. Thought both Bookman and yourself articulated your thoughts very well.

@@

October 23rd, 2012
12:43 pm

I couldn’t help but laugh when jay said “It’s up to Fred in Ohio.”

Hopefully, he’s not talking about the Fred he recently banished.

I could do without THAT Fred.

Kyle:

Don’t know if you have a subscription to STRATFOR but they have an excellent piece about Presidents and their limitations on foreign policy…circumstances beyond their control and such. We don’t live in a vacuum.

md

October 23rd, 2012
12:43 pm

“It is very obvious he will make the deal.”

If it was that obvious, then why did he back of of the last deal after Boehner had agreed to it??

getalife

October 23rd, 2012
12:45 pm

Our President pointed out the facts when mitt was dead wrong on his original positions.

Our President ended mitt in this debate.

Buried him.

getalife

October 23rd, 2012
12:46 pm

md,

Your crybaby walked away because of tax cuts for the wealthy.

He can’t walk away if our President caves on it.

Not complicated md.

Rafe Hollister, suffering through Oblamer's ineptocracy

October 23rd, 2012
12:47 pm

getalife
The President will cave again on tax cuts for the wealthy so there will be a deal and no fiscal cliff.

Man, you finally took one of those smart pills. I said that months ago, and you libs disagreed. Obama knows that to raise taxes in his abysmal economy will send us into a deeper recession. He has been on his get the rich campaign as just something to rile his voters. Once the election is over, he will extend the Obama Tax cuts in their entirety.

@@

October 23rd, 2012
12:48 pm

TBs:

Social policy.

Bombastic though he may be, Newt has always appealed to me as an innovative thinker.

When it comes to fiscal policy, I’m more of a Ryan fan than a Romney fan.

I’ll be voting for Ryan/Romney in November.

They BOTH suck

October 23rd, 2012
12:49 pm

@@

Thanks for the reply. What social policies is he moderate in your opinion?

Henne

October 23rd, 2012
12:49 pm

No, I mean put the two of you together in one blog. Wouldn’t you two like to see your audiences mix it up one time?

Henne

October 23rd, 2012
12:51 pm

Aquagirl

October 23rd, 2012
12:51 pm

Many conservatives saw Gingrich as moderate.

And that’s why I no longer consider myself conservative. A thrice-married “family values” guy who made compromise a dirty word and shut down the government is not moderate. YMMV.

Brosephus™

October 23rd, 2012
12:52 pm

getalife

And just as predictable as always, he’ll roll over like a too friendly dog that’s in need of a belly rub. Not that I think Romney is any better, but this country needs better than that in a leader.

Del

October 23rd, 2012
12:55 pm

Kyle, good debate and your points were made objectively. I still see better momentum for Romney coming down the wire and with both Gallup and Rasmussen having Romney at the 50% mark ahead of Obama I wouldn’t bet on Romney not pulling out a win.

getalife

October 23rd, 2012
12:56 pm

Bro,

It is bad policy that increases the deficit but it is what it is.

When the gop will allow us to go back to a recession unless they get their tax cuts, there is no choice.

getalife

October 23rd, 2012
12:57 pm

Del,

You can bet on it at Intrade.

Kyle Wingfield

October 23rd, 2012
12:59 pm

Del @ 12:55: As of today, it looks like it all comes down to Ohio. And, as of today, Obama has the edge there.

But we still have two weeks to go…

getalife

October 23rd, 2012
1:02 pm

The debate over Ohio is about the auto bailout.

mitt said government should not help our President helped them.

mitt lost this debate for Ohio.

Del

October 23rd, 2012
1:03 pm

Kyle,

Rasmussen only has Obama up by a point and I’ve seen a few polls that have it dead even. I agree that Romney must win Ohio to win the election.

Gee

October 23rd, 2012
1:04 pm

Romney’s flop sweating performance was telling. I always thought he was a pathological liar but apparently he has some embarrassment or remorse when he lies.

They BOTH suck

October 23rd, 2012
1:05 pm

Del

Rasmussen is probably more dependable.

Gallup has the name and history but looking at the last 4 election cycles, they haven’t done such a great job.

2010: way overstated Repub victory
2008: way overstated Obama victory
2006: understated Dem victory
2004: way overstated Bush victory

They do not seem to favor any party in terms of their predictions, but there seems to be more reliable sources.

Who knows. They could be on the money and Obama is heading for beat down.

md

October 23rd, 2012
1:06 pm

“Your crybaby walked away because of tax cuts for the wealthy.”

“Obama succeeded in getting Boehner to tentatively agree to as much as $800 billion in new revenue, a major concession, only to surprise the speaker with a request for an additional $400 billion as their negotiations neared the final stages. ”

Sorry big guy, Obama played a bit of bait and switch and screwed up the whole deal……..

H.E. Pennypacker

October 23rd, 2012
1:07 pm

Kyle,

Thanks for posting and well done to all involved. I have always suspected that even though you and I don’t always see things through the same lens that you were more than a party line marcher and this video confirmed as much. Even though recent research indicates post debate spin actually works, thanks for not engaging in as much and for presenting realistic and well thought out points.

I think more videos like this might serve to reduce the vitriol and name calling often times present in these forums…….as your candidate stated last night, “We want a peaceful planet”.

They BOTH suck

October 23rd, 2012
1:09 pm

Del

I have looked at several studies on polling accuracy. Gallup is usually middle pack. Not even close to the top in recent elections.

I would say the the Gallup which has Romney up by 6 or 7 and the IBD (which was ranked fairly high in 08) which has Obama up by 4 or 5 are both outliers.

Brosephus™

October 23rd, 2012
1:14 pm

getalife

We’re going to have another recession regardless. The current upswing has very little to do with demand increasing. It’s not as big of a bubble as we’ve had before, but we’re going to go back down again. Until we put the job infrastructure in place to handle the baby boomer retirement and SS, we’re only extending the pain we’re going to have to endure anyway. I think it’s better to do it now while other countries are struggling as opposed to waiting until everybody else is doing better.

They BOTH suck

October 23rd, 2012
1:16 pm

Bro

I have said that for months. Economy is going to limp along for sometime.

md

October 23rd, 2012
1:16 pm

“A thrice-married “family values” guy who made compromise a dirty word and shut down the government is not moderate. YMMV.”

Ummm…….that WAS compromise. By holding Clinton’s feet to the fire, we ended up with the proverbial “surpluses”……I doubt seriously that compromise would not have come about otherwise.