UPDATE at 10:40 p.m.: The candidates very much got back to foreign policy. If Romney’s goal was to present himself as knowledgeable and reasonable on foreign policy — i.e., not a war-monger — he achieved it. He has been much more conciliatory toward Obama than vice versa — he’s eschewed many opportunities to attack Obama, whereas Obama has been on the attack all night. Which suggests both candidates saw Romney as the front-runner coming into tonight’s debate.
If so, I saw nothing tonight to change that. Each candidate had some good moments, but neither truly drew blood. If Obama needed a win, I don’t think he got it tonight.
The pundits are talking about Obama winning on “debate points.” I don’t think that’s the way undecided voters view these things. They wanted to see, as in the first debate, if Romney was this wild-eyed extremist the Democrats have been painting him as. Obama didn’t sleep-walk through this debate by any means, but Romney achieved the same goal of coming across as reasonable and, this time, believable as a commander-in-chief. That’s all he needed tonight.
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UPDATE at 9:41 p.m.: Both candidates are trying very hard to turn this into something other than a foreign-policy debate. Which probably makes political sense; only so many voters are going to pull the lever based on what they think will happen in Damascus. But given that Obama has managed no more than a tie from the first two debates, and is saying nothing new on domestic policy tonight, you have to wonder why he thinks this is a good strategy.
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UPDATE at 9:28 p.m.: So far, Romney sounds as if the last words — maybe the only words — he heard before he went on stage were: “Don’t sound bellicose.” Which is smart, but he doesn’t have to sound bellicose to draw a clear line between his policies and priorities and Obama’s. And so far he isn’t doing that effectively.
For his part, the president has turned every question so far back to “nation-building at home.” He’s been saying that for years now. His problem is that his idea of nation-building at home isn’t necessarily what the people at home want. Obamacare? Dodd-Frank? Deficit spending for stimulus?
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Tonight is President Obama’s last chance to beat Mitt Romney in a head-to-head debate — and, possibly, to grab hold of the prevailing narrative of this election as it enters its final two weeks.
To recap: Romney changed his fortunes in the first debate in Denver on Oct. 3. Within a week of his solid defeat of a listless Obama, Romney had gone from trailing by 3.1 percentage points in the Real Clear Politics average of national opinion polls to leading by 1.5 points. More important, he took control in swing states that traditionally back Republicans (e.g., Missouri and North Carolina) and put some typically Democratic-leaning states (think Michigan, Wisconsin and even Pennsylvania) into the toss-up category.
Last Tuesday’s debate on Long Island finished with many observers — including, naturally, all those Democrats who had been wringing their hands about the first debate — declaring Obama the winner. I took some heat from some of my regular commenters for predicting Obama wouldn’t get a boost from the debate. But sure enough, Romney is a slightly larger favorite in the RCP average six days later. And the most crucial swing states — particularly Ohio, but also New Hampshire, Iowa, Nevada and perhaps even Wisconsin — remain within either man’s grasp. The race definitely is in “too close to call” territory.
But the first two debates were largely about domestic policy. Now we get a night all about foreign policy — at least until each candidate can segue to the domestic implications of any given topic — and that ought to be firmer ground for the current commander-in-chief than for his challenger. Will Obama be able to capitalize on that? Or will Romney be able to portray his presidency as one of missed opportunities and even missteps, particularly when it comes to the inflamed Middle East?
We shall see. Tune in here and on Twitter for real-time commentary, and look out tomorrow for a special post-debate discussion on AJC.com with yours truly and my colleague, Jay Bookman.
– By Kyle Wingfield
195 comments Add your comment
ODD OWL
October 22nd, 2012
9:42 pm
Romney ain’t ready…
White
October 22nd, 2012
9:43 pm
Please he need slap Romney for talking him like that! Plz richie rich is so disrespectful
ODD OWL
October 22nd, 2012
9:43 pm
Romney as President ??? Scary…
White
October 22nd, 2012
9:44 pm
Kiss the ring republicans lol
anon1
October 22nd, 2012
9:44 pm
Two conflicts at once? That’s why we are in the deficit mess now.
Gina522
October 22nd, 2012
9:45 pm
Excuse me, but what debate are you fellows watching?
White
October 22nd, 2012
9:45 pm
It’s called prez bush n daddy bush is the reason why
anon1
October 22nd, 2012
9:46 pm
The one on tv.
White
October 22nd, 2012
9:46 pm
The one where richie better go count his money! His material is old!
Patty
October 22nd, 2012
9:47 pm
Talking about foreign policy, here’s what our British allies are reading tonight:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2221596/Libya-consulate-attack-Second-U-S-building-attacked-Benghazi-CIA-base.html
Wonder when US media will finally decide to report this?
ODD OWL
October 22nd, 2012
9:48 pm
We the People don’t call the President the apex ace of asymmetrical warfare and an expert on foreign policy for nothing… Romney spew rhetoric with reckless abandon…
Mark
October 22nd, 2012
9:48 pm
Romney is not prepared tonight probably because he has no foreign policy platform to run on. President Obama once again is knocking Romney off his @ss!
Finn McCool (The System isn't Broken; It's Fixed)
October 22nd, 2012
9:48 pm
Romney is O’s beeeeatch
B
October 22nd, 2012
9:49 pm
Romney is looking far from Presidential. Try in another 4 years.
cdub
October 22nd, 2012
9:50 pm
Romney knows nothing about our military or foreign policy. Romney has changed his statements si many times…. Romney is too ignorant to be our président .
anon1
October 22nd, 2012
9:51 pm
No B, we can only hope he doesn’t, plus Ann said he wouldn’t.
iggy
October 22nd, 2012
9:51 pm
Romney is backed off the bluster tonite…catering to the females.
Mark
October 22nd, 2012
9:51 pm
td
October 22nd, 2012
8:24 pm
I can see MarkV is all fired up to make Obama’s last stand tonight
td you mean Romney’s last stand don’t you? I mean once he loses this election his political career is over….again
ODD OWL
October 22nd, 2012
9:52 pm
Romney has 18 of Bush/Cheney foreign policy advisors on his staff… All of them are chicken hawks, who avoided military service…. So we should not be surprise that Gov. Romney seem to be confused and out of touch…
anon1
October 22nd, 2012
9:56 pm
No service in the military is the norm for those who start wars for the economy. Even Dubya’s Dad knew better than to go to war since he had served.
anon1
October 22nd, 2012
10:00 pm
Romney stumbling around. What’s up with him?
iggy
October 22nd, 2012
10:01 pm
Romney is hung over from his Sat night drinking party….He is tired.
Old timer
October 22nd, 2012
10:01 pm
Enter your comments hereSo obama visits a holiest museum and he knows all about Isreal and he will support Isreal….what do you not support.. I am tired of this…
B
October 22nd, 2012
10:03 pm
I love it when Obama uses Romney’s words against him. Romney is his own worst enemy.
anon1
October 22nd, 2012
10:04 pm
Bring the troops home from Afghanistan.
B
October 22nd, 2012
10:05 pm
Absolutely!!
anon1
October 22nd, 2012
10:08 pm
Too many Americans have died, let Afghan troops handle their own country in 2014.
Support our vets when they come back.
B
October 22nd, 2012
10:10 pm
As Obama said, we have accomplished the reasons for being there.
anon1
October 22nd, 2012
10:11 pm
Romney is supporting Obama.
B
October 22nd, 2012
10:12 pm
Romney we can walk away Afghanistan!!
Mark
October 22nd, 2012
10:15 pm
How many times tonight has Romney said he agrees with the President’s position? LMAO!
B
October 22nd, 2012
10:16 pm
That’s because Romney doesn’t have his own foreign policy platform, he is listening to the President and is saying hey this sounds pretty good maybe I can use it.
anon1
October 22nd, 2012
10:18 pm
That’s my impression too.
anon1
October 22nd, 2012
10:23 pm
So far the best line of the night, “We have fewer bayonets now too”
anon1
October 22nd, 2012
10:24 pm
My Dad was the “head” of a car company. Great line Romney.
anon1
October 22nd, 2012
10:25 pm
The people of Detroit don’t forget.
Mark
October 22nd, 2012
10:26 pm
Twice Romney has accused the President of attacking him instead of debating the issues. This is showing that he’s losing this debate tonight and all his followers will cry tomorrow saying the moderator was unfair. LOL!
anon1
October 22nd, 2012
10:27 pm
You’re right Mark.
anon1
October 22nd, 2012
10:28 pm
Thought this was a foreign policy debate?
White
October 22nd, 2012
10:29 pm
Wow Romney is losing it! He is lying! Guess his boy want to slap him
Tall
October 22nd, 2012
10:32 pm
..”asking the wealthy to do a little more…”
We always bounce back…I will listen to you …..I will work with you liar…LIAR…..LIAR!!!!.
B
October 22nd, 2012
10:33 pm
Wow, Romney’s closing statement was a ramble.
cdub
October 22nd, 2012
10:44 pm
Obama won
Sister Sarah
October 22nd, 2012
10:45 pm
Wow! Jay’s blog, Kyle’s blog. I think we know what the deal is, especially since those who are on Romney’s side aren’t even standing up for him over here. I see tumbleweeds. Not good.
MarkV
October 22nd, 2012
10:52 pm
Romney tonight: Me too, me too. I agree with everything Obama is doing, and I will do the same, only better.
RW-(the original)
October 22nd, 2012
10:53 pm
When you boil this debate down to it’s essence you see that Romney wants to further the greatness of this country and Obama wants to make sure they tell you on The View tomorrow that he got in a nice barb. The differences in these two men couldn’t be more clear.
RW-(the original)
October 22nd, 2012
10:56 pm
And for a little multi-tasking I should add that a 3-1 lead doesn’t get blown often in the NLCS but when it does it’s usually the Cards doing the blowing.
Progressive Humanist
October 22nd, 2012
10:57 pm
Romney looked weak tonight and was exposed as a man without core beliefs. He agreed with Obama on almost every point and denied having held contradictory positions just weeks ago. He showed he knows little about the military and that his talk about getting tough on Iran and China is nothing but cheap bluster. Tonight’s performance could not have helped him.
JDW
October 22nd, 2012
11:00 pm
I wonder if Romney hurts his neck when he changes direction so abruptly
Scrivener
October 22nd, 2012
11:02 pm
Obama looked royally p’d off all night and tried to insert his talking points even when they weren’t relevant. He looked desperate. Romney looked relaxed and was on point on all his answers. I’m quite sure he appealed much more to the independent voters tonight.