Is the election coming down to four states?
There’s been a lot of theorizing on the comments threads about the Electoral College prospects of President Obama and Mitt Romney. At National Journal, Major Garrett writes something that I find rather reasonable: The election increasingly is coming down to four states:
What also became clear after the dust began to settle from the rumble on Long Island was the electoral map has narrowed and Obama’s team, while conceding nothing publicly, is circling the wagons around Ohio, Iowa, New Hampshire, and Nevada. Plouffe said that Obama remains strong in all four states, but he would not discuss the specifics of internal polling or voter-contact analytics, saying only that Obama has “significant leads” in all four places.
It is uncharacteristic of Team Obama to concede any terrain, but Plouffe offered no such assurances about Obama’s position in North Carolina, Virginia, or Florida. Romney advisers have seen big gains in all three states and now consider wins likely, although not guaranteed, in all three. They are similarly upbeat about prospects in Colorado but not confident enough to predict victory. That Plouffe left Colorado off his list of states where Obama’s leading and can withstand a Romney surge might be telling.
If those are the four states still being contested, where does each campaign stand with the others, and which states does each candidate have to win? Here’s Garrett again:
According to RealClearPolitics, Obama currently has 201 of the 270 electoral votes needed to win. But that doesn’t give Obama electoral votes from Pennsylvania (20), Michigan (16), or Wisconsin (10). Of these three, Romney advisers believe that only one, Wisconsin, is even theoretically winnable. Obama advisers believe they will win all three. That would put Obama at 247 electoral votes. If Obama wins Ohio (18), Iowa (6), Nevada (6), and New Hampshire (4) he would claim 281 electoral votes. That means he could afford to lose New Hampshire and Nevada and still eke out a razor-thin victory of 271 electoral votes.
Romney, according to RCP, has 191 electoral votes. If you add Florida (29), North Carolina (15), and Virginia (13), that brings his total to 248 electoral votes. Add Colorado (9) — which neither campaign is prepared to claim or concede — and Romney’s total rises to 257 electoral votes. If Romney wins Ohio (18) in addition to these states, he would have 275 electoral votes. If Romney loses Ohio, he would need to win Iowa, Nevada, and New Hampshire to reach 273 electoral votes. There is a scenario where Romney could lose Ohio and New Hampshire but win Iowa and Nevada and one electoral vote from the 2nd Congressional District in Maine (the state allocates electoral votes by district vote) and capture the bare minimum of 270 electoral votes.
In other words, under this emerging scenario Ohio on its own could swing the election to Romney, but not to Obama, who would also need to win Iowa or Nevada. At the same time, this scenario means Romney doesn’t have to win Ohio — but Obama does; he can’t get to 270 with his current leaning/likely/solid states plus Iowa, Nevada and New Hampshire.
Two points:
1. Given Ohio’s traditional importance to GOP candidates — no Republican has won the White House without it — it’s surprising that Romney has a path to victory without the Buckeye State, but Obama can’t win without it. Of course, if even one of the other four gravitates toward Obama, Ohio would once again become paramount for Romney. Thus, all the recent campaigning in Ohio by both men.
2. The other three states are among the four traditional “first in the nation” primaries and caucuses, where Romney has been campaigning for well over a year at this point. On one hand, he’s been in these states for months and months — yet he hasn’t closed the deal in them. On the other, Obama won each of them by double-digits in 2008 (if you round the results to the nearest whole number) and is in danger of losing them this time.
Here’s how each state stands today according to the RCP averages (and where the momentum lies):
IOWA: Obama leads by 2.3 points (about half the lead he held just three weeks ago).
OHIO: Obama leads by 2.2 points (down from 5.2 points three weeks ago but rising over the past week).
NEVADA: Obama leads by 3 points (roughly where his lead has been for the past two months, but up over the past week).
NEW HAMPSHIRE: Obama leads by just 0.8 points (the closest that state has been since Obama took a head-to-head lead in early February).
– By Kyle Wingfield
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I demand to see Cheesy Grits Birth Certificate- Long Form Please
October 17th, 2012
5:48 pm
Its easy to see.
Obama could lose the popular vote and still win.
But the electoral college is a real uphill battle for Cheesy Grits.
Not gonna happen.
Especially if Romney loses Ohio ( which is likely )
Then he really is up against it and needs all the toss ups to win.
I demand to see Cheesy Grits Birth Certificate- Long Form Please
October 17th, 2012
5:50 pm
http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2012/10/17/14514354-man-arrested-in-alleged-plot-to-attack-federal-reserve-in-nyc?lite
Since you get full blame for any Terrorist acts that are successful you must get full credit as well for those that are not.
Anything else would be hypocrisy.
Thank you for keeping me safe President Obama.
JDW
October 17th, 2012
6:17 pm
@kyle…sounds like a familiar line of thought…as I said earlier today status quo is a winner
Hillbilly D
October 17th, 2012
6:17 pm
Is the election coming down to four states?
Probably so but that’s not really so unusual, especially in the last few decades, with a notable exception or two.
Dum-Bass
October 17th, 2012
6:19 pm
BO has apparently had a premonition. Many didn’t catch it last night but about two thirds of the way through he said something very revealing. The question was from Carol Goldberg and pertained to the outsourcing of American jobs overseas. Obama said, “WE ARE ON PACE TO DOUBLE OUR EFFORTS, ONE OF THE COMMITMENTS I MADE WHEN I WAS PRESIDENT”. Had to dig through the transcript but finally confirmed I was not hearing things last night. An omen? Perhaps!
That Black Guy
October 17th, 2012
6:31 pm
Independent American
October 17th, 2012
6:03 pm
How SAD does your life have to be that once banned on a blog, you have to run around and find a new IP address just to fling poo.
It’s a beautiful day in a great city with many activities to offer.
Sad indeed.
Sam
October 17th, 2012
6:34 pm
Ohio, Iowa, and Nevada is certainly the easiest way to an Obama victory but currently Colorado and Virginia are effectively tied and Florida is within 1 point. There was also a recent poll showing Obama ahead in Arizona when non English polling was included. Romney cannot win without Ohio unless you give him nearly every single other competitive state. Obama can win without Ohio.
blahblahblah
October 17th, 2012
6:36 pm
The electoral college disenfranchises more voters than everything else combined.
Candunce Crowley
October 17th, 2012
6:43 pm
For whatever it is worth… Erick Erickson sited a fact this evening the democrats on this blog aren’t going to like very much: In the history of the Gallop Poll since the fifties and sixties at this point in the race whatever candidate polls at least 50% has gone on to win the election
Um, Gallop has Romney ahead at 51% among likely voters.
iggy
October 17th, 2012
6:54 pm
Obama is saying to Michelle. “DAMNIT WOMAN…get to packing!! Its back to Sweet Home Chicago.”
I Report (-: You Whine )-: mmm, mmmm, mmmmm! Just sayin...
October 17th, 2012
6:54 pm
It all depends on how many morons live in them.
boohoo for the majority rule
October 17th, 2012
6:54 pm
The only thing that disenfranchises voters more than the electoral college is the popular vote.
iggy
October 17th, 2012
6:57 pm
“The electoral college disenfranchises more voters than everything else combined.”
Let the Pre Obama Loss Disenfrachised Boo Birds come to the for front.
Here it comes…The electoral college sucks, the electors are bigots and WAAHHH!!!
ByteMe - Got ilk?
October 17th, 2012
7:02 pm
When you “circle the wagons” you are defending territory. Doesn’t mean you can’t go on the offensive in other places, though. It’s not mutually exclusive when you have a couple hundred million in GOTV and ad money available.
Oduma and Dumber Company
October 17th, 2012
7:04 pm
These Al Gore liberal knuckleheads believe they have the right to vote in electing the President. Hilarious!
You are voting to elect DELEGATES to represent you, only your DELEGATE votes elect the President.
iggy
October 17th, 2012
7:06 pm
I bet those electoral college people didnt even go to college.
cc
October 17th, 2012
7:35 pm
BREAKING NEWS:
Obama, up 11 points in Wisconsin just prior to the first debate, has now fallen to a dead tie with Governor Romney.
cc
October 17th, 2012
7:43 pm
Iggy:
I’m going to enjoy election night watching as the “experts” attempt to explain just how Governor Romney was able to win the election. I’m sure there will be film coverage of a defeated Hussein and his enraged wife who will no longer be able to say that she is proud of her country.
The crews of Air Force One will breathe a sigh of relief.
There will be many reports of blogger suicides . . .
JamVet
October 17th, 2012
7:47 pm
The crews of Air Force One will breathe a sigh of relief.
Never-served Webelos drop outs commenting on the professionalism of real men in uniform.
Hysterical…
jconservative
October 17th, 2012
7:53 pm
I agree. It is that tight.
cc
October 17th, 2012
8:05 pm
What’s your point, JamVet, if you have one?
iggy
October 17th, 2012
8:15 pm
Agreed cc. Im gonna tune into PMSNBC. Rev Sharpton will be ranting about bigots and racists and rope a dope and disenfranchisement and marches and fraud and cheating and diebold machine tampering and vote rigging and fraud and, well he may just have a coronary right there on screen.
Rachel Maddow may renounce lesbianism…we then again probably not.
Chris Mathew may break out his AK-47 and begin shooting up the place.
It promises to be a real ball buster.
BW
October 17th, 2012
8:23 pm
This is hilarious….Kyle just clearly said this is tossup with the fundamentals favoring Obama slightly in the only count that matters, the Electoral College, and look at the people claiming Romney will run away with it. It truly is a farce to believe there are actually undecided voters in this race. Everyone is at least leaning one way or the other. At this point unless someone consistently polls outside the margin of error in these polls conversation about a win is moot. See you back here November 7 for more discussion.
td
October 17th, 2012
8:23 pm
iggy
October 17th, 2012
8:15 pm
“Chris Mathew may break out his AK-47 and begin shooting up the place”
That is too close to being a reality. A little scary.
Ed Shultz may have a massive stroke on camera.
cc
October 17th, 2012
8:27 pm
What time does the circus start?
Rafe Hollister, suffering through Oblamer's ineptocracy
October 17th, 2012
8:29 pm
Jaime Dupree had some interesting observations today. He had researched Nevada results and what the polls showed prior to the election. Remember Angle was up on Hairy two years ago, and Hairy won by a decent margin. Jaime had researched it back to 2004 and Dem votes were always more than anticipated by the polls. Why? Union mischief is often blamed but never proven. So, Nevada goes to Barry.
Romney wins Ohio and NH because good GOP candidates usually carry those states and due to the enthusiasm gap for Romney, I see him winning there. Coal is going to help Romney in Ohio as well offsetting any gain Obama gets for the government bailout of GM.
Dusty
October 17th, 2012
8:31 pm
All very interesting. But….”I won’t count my chiickens until they hatch.”
Rafe Hollister, suffering through Oblamer's ineptocracy
October 17th, 2012
8:39 pm
Dusty
I think I see some cracks in the shell and maybe the tip of a beak.
cc
October 17th, 2012
8:44 pm
Rafe:
Mine has hatched, grown up and is now THE barnyard rooster-in-charge!
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October 17th, 2012
9:00 pm
Kyle Wingfield Is the election coming down to four states?
Well…one thing’s for certain. The Obama campaign is coming down to planet earth the hard way.
SPLAT!!!!!
A “heeling” moment, that’s fo ’sho.
schnirt
Del
October 17th, 2012
9:17 pm
The Gallup poll was surprising and I’m sure a shocker for the Obama campaign at this late date. There’s typically a 5 to 7 day lag before the national polls begin to be reflected in the battleground states. With Romney ahead by many polls in Florida, Virginia, New Hampshire and only one point behind, well within the margin of error in Ohio it’s entirely possible Romney could win by taking those swing states. Factor in potential upsets now in PA., Mich., Colorado, Wisconsin and Nevada, Romney could very well have a big night. I don’t think the lib over confidence of an Obama win we’ve seen on both Kyle’s and Bookman’s blogs is anywhere near realistic.
Georgia
October 17th, 2012
9:33 pm
Does Diebold still make the voting machines? What about Florida? Did they trash those stupid machines that make pregnant chads or hanging chads?
Are we to witness another bogus election?
bu2
October 17th, 2012
9:55 pm
I find it hard to believe Obama is leading in Ohio as bad as the economy is there. The same is true for Florida which leans strongly Republican at the state level. I also found it hard to believe North Carolina would go Democratic again.
I’ve long thought it was Nevada, Colorado, Iowa, Virginia and New Hampshire that would decide it as Ohio and Florida would go for Romney by a narrow margin.
td
October 17th, 2012
9:59 pm
I think you can put FL and NC in the bank for Romney because Obama has basically quit campaigning or buying new ad buys in those states.
MI and PA are always pipe dreams for the Republicans and unless this election turns hard towards Romney in the last three weeks then they will go to Obama.
In the polls Romney is currently ahead in CO and Obama in NV so let us say they go according to the polls.
VA and NH are trending Romney.
That leaves Wis, IA, OH. Romney can win by taking OH or Wis. Obama must win OH and Wis to win.
Bruno
October 17th, 2012
10:02 pm
MI and PA are always pipe dreams for the Republicans and unless this election turns hard towards Romney in the last three weeks then they will go to Obama.
td–I’m not ruling anything out at this point. Who can seriously vote for Obama in good faith given his dismal record across the board?? In particular, black Americans, who voted for Obama in record numbers, have been hardest hit by the recession. Why keep backing a proven loser??
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ROFwJNRxCAE&feature=related
Just Saying..
October 17th, 2012
10:04 pm
Fascinating, thanks for this.
md
October 17th, 2012
10:13 pm
From what i can tell reading the blogs today, it seems neither side is offering specifics…..just “hope”.
If that is the case, the last 4 years of hope have been awful stale……one might want to try the other brand.
td
October 17th, 2012
10:20 pm
Bruno
October 17th, 2012
10:02 pm
I was attempting to be realistic based on what the LSM is saying the mood of the country at the present time, past polling results and current trending polls. I am not ruling out what you said and my gut is telling me that you are right.
RW-(the original)
October 17th, 2012
10:20 pm
If the current thinking is that Romney wins if he gets Ohio and Obama can’t win without Ohio, or Oiho as he spells it, then I would say it;s down to one state.
td
October 17th, 2012
10:26 pm
Playing with the numbers a little and this could be a possibility.
Romney takes: FL, NC, VA and Ohio
Obama take: Wis, NV, CO and NH
Then the one that take IA wins the election.
td
October 17th, 2012
10:28 pm
Both of them are spending a great deal of time in IA.
md
October 17th, 2012
10:44 pm
Well, based on the unofficial yahoo thumbs up, thumbs down poll conducted within each article, Romney wins in a landslide……….
I guess one poll is as good as another until one day in Nov….
HRS for Men
October 17th, 2012
10:48 pm
You can’t stop me. I can out fox you every time. Work smarter, not harder. See you at the polls, chump.
td
October 17th, 2012
11:04 pm
You can’t stop the Train
October 17th, 2012
10:57 pm
I do not care how many Latinos come out or how many people that will not vote for a Mormon will stay home. It is the middle class suburban married white women with children that will decide this election.
yuzeyurbrane
October 17th, 2012
11:18 pm
It is notoriously difficult to predict tight elections but I am willing to risk embarrassment by saying that the election will really be decided in one state, Ohio, because it has so many electoral college votes at stake. Either candidate could lose most of the other states mentioned but still pull out a victory if he wins Ohio.
Norman
October 18th, 2012
1:17 am
I am a Coloradan. I ran the polling place in Denver’s heaviest demo Yuppie area. In 2008 there were MANY yard signs for O. Now only TWO and same for Romney. I don’t know about Ohio, but that is an earthquake result here. Count Colorado for Romney. We have only nine eletoral votes, but they may count for a lot more!
Lil' Barry Bailout - Vote American
October 18th, 2012
6:34 am
cc: What time does the circus start?
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Around noon on January 20, 2009.
Vote American to make sure the disaster ends this coming January 20, and take your country back from the America-hating Democrat liberal fascists.
Lil' Barry Bailout - Vote American
October 18th, 2012
7:39 am
The debate’s Benghazi argument should make for some devastating Romney campaign ads–Obozo for two weeks blaming the video for a spontaneous demonstration that escalated into an attack on the embassy, compared with the facts.
Obozo: Liar.
southpaw
October 18th, 2012
7:53 am
How about this scenario:
In addition to his current 191 electoral votes, suppose Romney wins Florida (29), North Carolina (15), Virginia (13), Iowa (6), Colorado (9), and Nevada (6). Obama wins Wisconsin, Michigan, Ohio, Pennsylvania, Massachusetts, and New Hampshire. Both of them get 269 votes. How much pressure will individual electors get to change their votes? If they all vote as expected, the House of Representatives will decide the election. THAT would be fun to watch.
Tiberius - pulling the tail of the left AND right
October 18th, 2012
7:57 am
This all comes down to ground game. Democrats traditionally have a better one, but Romney has displayed a good one during the primaries, and the GOP in Wisconsin showed the way during the Scott Walker recall win (erroneously predicted by many failed prognostcators on this blog).
Democrats would be more foolish than they usually are to think they have a better one this year.
Mark
October 18th, 2012
8:16 am
@ td
October 17th, 2012
11:04 pm
You can’t stop the Train
October 17th, 2012
10:57 pm
I do not care how many Latinos come out or how many people that will not vote for a Mormon will stay home. It is the middle class suburban married white women with children that will decide this election.
Still playing the race card huh td?
MarkV
October 18th, 2012
8:23 am
Romney’s foreign policy ignorance, incompetence and blunders should make that issue quite decisive. He has not been able to formulate a single foreign policy that differs from the President’s except that he would do the same but better. Obama’s record to deal with al Qaeda speaks for itself.
And what has Romney to attack, at most? That the Administration waited with informing the public about the causes of attack on a consulate until the intelligence people were sure about them – for the whole 2 weeks! What a horror and damage! How could we survive that?
The emphasis on this nonissue is the best proof of Romney’s foreign policy weakness and desperation.
iggy
October 18th, 2012
8:26 am
We’ve already seen the real obama.
Devil ya know or Devil ya dont know.
carlosgvv
October 18th, 2012
8:35 am
In the past, I seem to remember Califorina being a “must win state”.
Why has this changed?
JDW
October 18th, 2012
8:39 am
WOW would you look at that…Romeny actually told the truth!
“For weeks many Beltway insiders had written off the Romney campaign as dead, saying the candidate had dug himself into too deep a hole with too little time to recover. However, with a month to go before ballots are cast, Romney has pulled even with President Obama, and the former Massachusetts governor credits his rejuvenated campaign to one, singular tactic: lying a lot.
“I’m lying a lot more, and my lies are far more egregious than they’ve ever been,” a smiling Romney told reporters while sitting in the back of his campaign bus, adding that when faced with a choice to either lie or tell the truth, he will more than likely lie. “It’s a strategy that works because when I lie, I’m essentially telling people what they want to hear, and people really like hearing things they want to hear. Even if they sort of know that nothing I’m saying is true.”
“It’s a freeing strategy, really, because I don’t have to worry about facts or being accurate or having any concrete positions of any kind,” Romney added.”
Or at least that’s what he would say if he did
http://maddowblog.msnbc.com/_news/2012/10/12/14397013-chronicling-mitts-mendacity-vol-xxxviii?lite
RW-(the original)
October 18th, 2012
8:44 am
In the past, I seem to remember Califorina being a “must win state”.
Why has this changed?
It’s most assuredly still a “must win” state for Democrats, but it’s also kind of like Alabama playing Summerhour Middle School.
Lil' Barry Bailout - Vote American
October 18th, 2012
8:52 am
MarkV: And what has Romney to attack, at most? That the Administration waited with informing the public about the causes of attack on a consulate until the intelligence people were sure about them…
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Not, that Obozo failed to contemplate that, on the anniversary of 9/11, in a Muslim country, there might be an attack on Americans.
Obozo: Idiot. Failure. Liar.
stands for decibels
October 18th, 2012
8:54 am
Kyle just clearly said this is tossup with the fundamentals favoring Obama slightly in the only count that matters, the Electoral College
which, for the record, is one of those reasons I continue to read Kyle–he is capable of just such rational analysis and clear-headed assessments, and not only do I welcome those from my ideological counterparts, I am glad to see more–shall we say, dug-in partisans?–at least exposed to such things, even if they may have a difficult time digesting them.
/drive-by
Lil' Barry Bailout - Vote American
October 18th, 2012
9:03 am
The administration didn’t “wait” to get the facts on their Benghazi failure. From the first day, they were blaming a YouTube video.
Obozo shot first and aimed later. Obozo lied.
zeke
October 18th, 2012
9:07 am
We must insure all liberals, socialists, progressives are removed from elected office! These ridiculous leftist morons are indeed a terminal disease and must be cured by voting them out of office! Goodbye OBAMA THE SOCIALIST!
zeke
October 18th, 2012
9:11 am
And don’t give me that old tired line that of racism! I would vote for J C Watts, Or Condi Rice in an instant! Not because they are black, but, because they are highly qualified and Obama is not! He has never had a real world job! Nothing more than a scum socialist community organizer! Palin was/is much more qualified than he is!
Road Scholar
October 18th, 2012
9:11 am
And if a frog had wings, they wouldn’t bump their a$$. Time will tell.
Rafe Hollister, suffering through Oblamer's ineptocracy
October 18th, 2012
9:14 am
That the Administration waited with informing the public about the causes of attack on a consulate until the intelligence people were sure about them…
We know that this is what Barry told the questioner off camera, after the debate. This is the most ludicrous defense of his coverup yet. If he waited to be sure of the truth, why was he out there pumping a false narrative about it being caused by a video. He says he was waiting to get the truth, so in the meantime, entertain them with something he knew to be false.
Some weak minded people fall for this nonsense? You gotta really be way up Obama’s tailpipe to think this argument is valid. Just another lie to avoid telling the truth.
cc
October 18th, 2012
9:19 am
“We must insure all liberals, socialists, progressives are removed from elected office!”
It sounds like a plan whose time has come. I favor immediate implementation!
cc
October 18th, 2012
9:21 am
Rafe:
You’re on target . . . as usual.
PROUD NAVY VET
October 18th, 2012
9:24 am
There was a report on the news saying AZ handed out Spanish voter info stating the election was to be held on November 8th not November 6th. But everything that was printed in English had the correct date. I wonder how that could have happened?
Tommy the Brit
October 18th, 2012
9:27 am
Interesting read – I feel very similarly about the state of the battleground after the second debate. Obama’s “path to victory” has many more options open to it compared to Mr Romney and, if he has indeed lost Ohio and Pennsylvania, the election math becomes ever more complicated.
I’ve put together my electoral college map for November 6th: http://tommygilchrist.wordpress.com/2012/10/18/obamas-electoral-path-to-victory/
Lil' Barry Bailout - Vote American
October 18th, 2012
9:27 am
Why would one of the United States be handing out voter info in a language other than English?
Lil' Barry Bailout - Vote American
October 18th, 2012
9:29 am
Romney’s path to victory: Americans vote in greater numbers than Democrats.
cc
October 18th, 2012
9:29 am
Rumor has it that President Romney has begun a national search for a well-qualified foreign policy advisor. Examining all possibilities, I understand that he is leaning toward an offer to MarkV. When questioned about this, President Romney said, “He is an obvious choice. All I would need to do is seek his advice on any given circumstance, ask him what he would do and then do exactly the opposite! It can’t fail!”
iggy
October 18th, 2012
9:30 am
More good news for OBlunder.
“US unemployment aid applications jump to 388,000″
MarkV
October 18th, 2012
9:38 am
cc @ 9:29 am
I understand that cc does not have more brain than for stupid sarcasm.
cc
October 18th, 2012
9:46 am
iggy:
Want to bet that, even in the face of this, that the unemployment rate will show another drop on the next report?
jconservative
October 18th, 2012
9:48 am
On the importance of Ohio check this from David Morris at “The Kiplinger Letter” of 10/17/12:
“An even bigger development Tuesday was the Supreme Court’s decision not to review a lower court’s ruling that early voting in Ohio on the weekend before the election must be allowed for everyone, not just members of the military. That gives the Obama campaign a few extra days to take advantage of its superior get-out-the-vote organization…..Obama’s team decided early in the campaign to devote a lot of time, effort and money to early voting operations in key states, and it’s paying off in Ohio, where Democrats are voting early in much larger numbers than Republicans.”
adam smith's invisible hand
October 18th, 2012
9:48 am
iggy – those unemployment numbers are rigged – haven’t you gotten word from your overlords on that?
Matz
October 18th, 2012
9:57 am
The critical demographic: BINDERS FULL OF WOMEN!
Will they vote for the ticket that respects them as intelligent individuals capable of making their own decisions, equal pay for equal work, breadwinners and parents, and valuable members of our society?
Or will they vote for the ticket that seeks to marginalize them by empowering their employers to stick their noses into how they use the insurance portion of their compensation packages, judging their personal lives on a double standard, re-defining violence against women, and showing them their true value by passing out, “Hot Chicks Dig Ryan” buttons?
Lil' Barry Bailout - Vote American
October 18th, 2012
10:19 am
Matz: Or will they vote for the ticket that seeks to marginalize them by empowering their employers to stick their noses into how they use the insurance portion of their compensation packages
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It’s the government that is sticking their noses into our health insurance and medical decisions.
Increased circulation
October 18th, 2012
10:20 am
Why can’t we get more stories about Republican Tennessee Congressman DeJarlais knocking up his patient while he was married and then taking her for an abortion? You’d think Kyle would want to promote a male, family-values, Republican Congressman caught having an affair with that wasn’t with another man.
Lil' Barry Bailout - Vote American
October 18th, 2012
10:25 am
Why can’t we get more stories about Republican Tennessee Congressman…
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We can. The Tennessee newspapers have web sites too. Have you not heard of the Google?
Matz
October 18th, 2012
10:30 am
Lil’ Barry Bailout,
How awful for you that the health insurance you pay for at your job has to cover your visits to the urologist. I object! When I have a company and negotiate a group health plans for my employees to pay into, I want to be able to exclude all medical care related to the male member. I want to make your health issues my business because GOD told me to! HIPAA be darned!
(insert eye rollie icon)
Lil' Barry Bailout - Vote American
October 18th, 2012
10:35 am
Poor Matz. She can’t imagine a world where people (gasp) are forced to purchase their own condoms.
Del
October 18th, 2012
10:37 am
Evidently Gallup is saying that based on their recent polling of swing state likely voters, Obama has virtually lost all of his advantage among woman. If that’s true it’s game over for Obama and the only plan that he needs to come up with now is a plan for vacating the White House in January.
Matz
October 18th, 2012
10:38 am
Lil’ Barry Bailout,
If you think putting a condom on your willie will fix the little boulder that is your prostate gland when it impedes your ability to urinate, or cure your kidney stones, then BLESS YOUR HEART.
Lil' Barry Bailout - Vote American
October 18th, 2012
10:40 am
Matz, a condom only costs a buck. Is it unreasonable to expect a thirty year old attending a posh private law school to be able to pay for that themselves?
Matz will be quite happy living in Obama’s Handout Nation with all the pathetic losers.
jconservative
October 18th, 2012
10:41 am
the Charlotte Observer:
“This week, the Billy Graham Evangelistic Association removed Mormonism from its list of religious cults.
The reclassification follows Romney’s visit to Graham’s mountain home last Thursday, a meeting that also included Graham’s son Franklin, who now runs the association for his 93-year-old father….
An article on the Graham website had classified Mormons, along with Jehovah’s Witnesses, the Unification Church, Unitarians, Spiritists and Scientologists, among others, as cults.”
Lil' Barry Bailout - Vote American
October 18th, 2012
10:42 am
With Obozo’s electoral chances in doubt, the Iranian people would be wise to make sure they know where the nearest bomb shelter is located.
Matz
October 18th, 2012
10:47 am
Lil’ Barry,
How thrilled I am to learn that you know the price of a condom, and that you require the college students you sleep with to buy their own. What a guy!
Nonetheless, a condom does not treat or manage the vast number of illnesses and conditions that affect the reproductive systems of either gender. Wanting to deny women medical treatment (or require them to divulge their private medical issues to their nosy employers) because you see them ONLY as sex objects, tells us more about you than I want to know.
Seriously. Ewwwww. You’re gross. I hope you don’t have daughters.
UNCLE SAMANTHA
October 18th, 2012
10:51 am
If Obama loses the popular vote
but wins the electoral vote
will Dems still claim that Romney should be President since he won the popular vote?
Jerry Fawell
October 18th, 2012
10:51 am
Guess if the Graham family’s organization is going to endorse Romney it would be a good thing to take them off of their “cult” list.
Who thinks they would have done this had Romney not won the nomination?
Either way, good for you Billy and Franklin
Jerry Fawell
October 18th, 2012
10:53 am
Uncle Sam
Since you claimed Bush was the President, I am sure you will say he is President, right?
That was a stupid thing for Democrats to say after the election in 2000 and would be stupid to say now.
Lil' Barry Bailout - Vote American
October 18th, 2012
10:55 am
Matz: a condom does not treat or manage the vast number of illnesses and conditions that affect the reproductive systems of either gender.
———————
But every health insurance plan (even pre-Obozocare) does.
Elective treatments, such as abortion, Viagra, contraceptives, plastic surgery, Lasik…not so much. And with good reason.
Georgia
October 18th, 2012
11:01 am
China will complete their supernavy about the same time as Iran finally gets their grubby paws on a nuke. Imagine a dozen Chinese aircraft carriers in the Persian Gulf. Chairman Mao thought we’d be already at war with China. He asked Nixon in the seventies how many generations would pass before WW3. He held up one finger. Nixon shrugged. He held up two fingers. Nixon reluctantly acquiesced, but objected, “Thats why I’m here now, Mr Chairman, to prevent such a thing.” Mao glanced sardonically at our FIrst Crook. “There nothing that can stop it. The world is shrinking. You capitalistic peegs are draining the planet of resources just so you can have cheap hamburgers. You Americans think you have manifest destiny to pollute everything.” Then Chairman Mao stood up, he pointed at Nixon and the three members of his staff, “I hate you…and I hate you, and I don’t even know you, but I hate you. You’ll all be sorry.” Then Mao ran away like a little girl. (see Nixon memoirs, where this is copied from word for word.)
Increased circulation
October 18th, 2012
11:01 am
Lil’ Barry – Get knocked up by a married, Republican, family-values doctor and he’ll pay for your abortion. You won’t need a condom.
Thomas Heyward Jr
October 18th, 2012
11:02 am
I have found that the ones who complain the most about not subsidizing their respective “lady parts’ with tax-payer money …………are the ones that need it the less.
.
rusty.
Lil' Barry Bailout - Vote American
October 18th, 2012
11:04 am
Actual LOL, Thomas!
Lil' Barry Bailout - Vote American
October 18th, 2012
11:08 am
That’s right, Increased Circulation. Republicans pay their way. Democrats whine to the government to force the productive to cover their expenses.
John L Lightner
October 18th, 2012
11:10 am
Romney is big on discussing all his accomplishments as governor of Masschusetts. Very good. Then why according to the polls is he losing his “home” state by such a wide margin? It is not even close.
Tiberius - pulling the tail of the left AND right when needed
October 18th, 2012
11:12 am
“This week, the Billy Graham Evangelistic Association removed Mormonism from its list of religious cults.”
Gravy Stain might just blow a gasket even more than usual.
Matz
October 18th, 2012
11:13 am
Y’all “win” the discussion by divulging how truly disgusting you are. Enjoy your male-bondy time degrading women. I hope you enjoy lighting each other’s gaseous emissions and complimenting each other on the volume and resonance of your belches.
“MA! THE MEATLOAF!”
Tiberius - pulling the tail of the left AND right when needed
October 18th, 2012
11:15 am
“Romney is big on discussing all his accomplishments as governor of Masschusetts. Very good. Then why according to the polls is he losing his “home” state by such a wide margin?”
Uh, John? You think maybe because Massachusetts is a deep-blue state maybe? And that Romney needs to focus his campaign cash on states he has a reasonable chance to win?
If that’s your best argument, you’ve failed miserably.
St Simons - we're on Island time
October 18th, 2012
11:16 am
cons, you know 2012 is demographically the end of the road for you.
win this last one fer the gipper, heheh
Lil' Barry Bailout - Vote American
October 18th, 2012
11:18 am
If it’s the end for conservatives, St. Simons, it’s because it’s the end of smaller, less intrusive government, the end of personal responsibility, and the end of American exceptionalism.
beam me up
October 18th, 2012
11:35 am
Kyle CONveniently dismisses Florida and Virginia, both of which are absolutley in the toss up column. The most recent poll of Florida (Zogby) has Obama up by 3 points despite being taken before the second debate. The PPP poll released three days ago had Romney up one point. Seeing as two polls right after the first debate had Romney up by three and four points, it is pretty clear that whatever bump he got from that debate is fading.
In Virginia, the latest poll has it tied. Obama has led there for almost the entire campaign with only one poll showing Romney ahead by two points immediately after the first debate from Rasmussen, which notoriously overstates Republican votes by virtue of methodology.
So, these are both probably in the same category as Colorado, though maybe slightly more favorable to Obama. Romney has no path to victory without Florida, none, and would have to run the table without Ohio. Obama can win without Ohio, Florida, and Colorado if he takes Virginia, Iowa, and Nevada. For Obama to win, he just has to take one of Ohio, Florida and Virginia plus a couple out of Colorado, Nevada, Iowa an New Hampshire. In fact, Obama could win without any of the big three (Florida, Ohio, and Virginia) if he won all of the others.
Bottom line, the electoral map is still significantly more difficult for Romney than it is Obama. The race is definitely closer, but Romney is behind. He is pretty much going to have to win Ohio to have a chance, and has no chance at all without Florida.
By all means
October 18th, 2012
11:43 am
Matz should vote for the team that reduces women to their lady parts and nothing more.
A pathetic Julia.
St Simons - we're on Island time
October 18th, 2012
11:44 am
If Republicans want to survive into the future, I would –
a) get your nose out of peoples bedrooms, churches, & Drs offices
b) realize that we don’t need to be able to blow up the world 50x over.
c) the vast overwhelming majority of the world’s population wants a
social contract with its government.
d) be fiscally conservative. (today’s Republican is not)
a lot of sane normal people would go for that. just trying to help.
St Simons - we're on Island time
October 18th, 2012
11:48 am
i hate to tell you, but Obama’s gonna win Fla & Ohio.
so now we have to move on & think –
how do we engineer a viable 21st century Republican pahhty?
because this one is plumb skeery.
Tiberius - pulling the tail of the left AND right when needed
October 18th, 2012
11:49 am
Never take advice on how to change your ways from someone who wouldn’t vote for you on a bet.
Bruno
October 18th, 2012
11:52 am
St. Simons:
If Democrats want to survive into the future, they should –
a) allow Americans to choose their own health care
b) realize that deterrence through strength is our only viable option
c) realize that freedom and individual liberty is worth more in the end than cradle to grave government dependence
d) be fiscally conservative (today’s Democrat is not)
a lot of sane, morally decent people would go for that. just trying to help.
Bruno
October 18th, 2012
11:53 am
i hate to tell you, but the whole country is moving toward Romney
so now we have to move on & think –
how do we engineer a viable 21st century Democrat pahhty?
because this one is plumb skeery.
Matz
October 18th, 2012
11:54 am
By all means,
Taking responsibility for their own lady parts makes a woman pathetic? Hmmm… good to know. Thanks!
So, what does that make a woman who turns over responsibility for her lady parts to untrained trogs like Todd Akins, who’s “knowledge” of the female anatomy and human reproductive process is based on random guesswork clouded by vague definitions of “asking for it?”
Just curious.
Tiberius - pulling the tail of the left AND right when needed
October 18th, 2012
11:55 am
“i hate to tell you, but Obama’s gonna win Fla & Ohio.”
And what are this weekend’s winning lottery numbers, St. Simons?
You know, ’cause since you’re so clairvoyant and all I figure you’d know them.
Dusty
October 18th, 2012
11:55 am
Well, I hope Americans are not as indecisive as our polls would suggest. This one is up. Then it is down. Who’s the next one going to crown?
This seems to entertain a lot of people and it is harmless enough.
But I hope that citizens will not just follow the crowd, but their own understanding of how we have been governed for the last four years. I find it unsatisfactory and will vote for a change. That means Romney.
Of course…………
I only speak for one woman, me! Every woman has her own mind and she will decide on who is best as far as she knows. Women are not loaded like coal cars and then pushed down the line. They think for themselves. I just wanted to remind any of you that think otherwise..
Dusty
October 18th, 2012
12:02 pm
Bruno,
Your 11:52 is so sound and practical it is astounding!!
How does it go? “Good thinking is hard to find?” Or something like that!!
Bruno
October 18th, 2012
12:03 pm
Never take advice on how to change your ways from someone who wouldn’t vote for you on a bet.
Ti–I’ve got a feeling that a lot of professed Dems are going to pull the lever for Romney once they’re in the voting booth given his strong polling numbers on who is better qualified to help the economy. Why vote for 4 more years of the same??
Bruno
October 18th, 2012
12:08 pm
In fact, Ti, I can see Matz now in that voting booth, secretly voting for Romney because she knows her economic prospects will be so much greater under Romney. Go, Matz!!
Lil' Barry Bailout - Vote American
October 18th, 2012
12:14 pm
St. Simons: the vast overwhelming majority of the world’s population wants a
social contract with its government.
———
We didn’t get to be the world’s most powerful and successful country by being like everyone else. And I refuse to believe that Americans have become so pathetic that they want to turn over their lives to government.
Bruno
October 18th, 2012
12:19 pm
Your 11:52 is so sound and practical it is astounding!!
Actually, Dusty, I was only trying to help St Simons see how silly her 11:44 post was, but thanks for the compliment.
Finn McCool (The System isn't Broken; It's Fixed)
October 18th, 2012
12:31 pm
How out of touch is the 1%?
Pity poor Rajat Gupta. The former managing director of McKinsey Consulting and member of the board of directors of Goldman Sachs, was convicted in June on charges of insider trading. Prosecutors are seeking a sentence of 8 to 10 years. But Gupta’s lawyers are arguing that the mere fact of Gupta’s fall from grace is punishment enough!
Kyle uses the same lawyers as that guy.
Finn McCool (The System isn't Broken; It's Fixed)
October 18th, 2012
12:33 pm
d) be fiscally conservative (today’s Democrat is not)
Just like a con to talk up fiscal conservation until they get their guy in office. Then all that is out the window.
JDW
October 18th, 2012
12:36 pm
@Tiberius…”You think maybe because Massachusetts is a deep-blue state maybe?”
I guess they were red when he got elected Governor…nope even more blue then…pssstttt I think it is because they believe in the old adage…
Fool me once, shame on you; fool me twice, shame on me
Thulsa Doom
October 18th, 2012
12:41 pm
Bruno
Using fiscal conservative and democrat in the same sentence probably breaks some sorta law. How ya doing man?
Tiberius - pulling the tail of the left AND right when needed
October 18th, 2012
12:41 pm
“I think . . . ”
That would be your first time thinking on this blog, JDW.
cc
October 18th, 2012
12:42 pm
“cons, you know 2012 is demographically the end of the road for you.”
“If Republicans want to survive into the future”
“i hate to tell you, but Obama’s gonna win Fla & Ohio.”
“we’re on Island time”
I have no idea on which island you reside, but it most likely is the very remote “Island of Make-Believe” and is totally devoid of communication with the outside world.
Indulge your fantasies while you can. Election day and the end of your dream rapidly approaches.
Bruno
October 18th, 2012
12:42 pm
Just like a con to talk up fiscal conservation until they get their guy in office. Then all that is out the window.
Sorry, Finn. My tune doesn’t change regardless of who is in office.
And speaking of tunes, here’s a little Trower for my buddy Jam if he pokes his head in.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1g9Hs3rnd6s
MrLiberty
October 18th, 2012
12:42 pm
Yes, the state of the economy, the state of the failed wars in the middle east, the state of the failing and chronically-devaluing dollar, and the state of ignorance of the majority of the voting public as to the gross similarities of these two hand-picked Goldman-Sachs candidates. We are doomed.
PROUD NAVY VET
October 18th, 2012
12:43 pm
Gov. Romney has said many times government does not create jobs, but says he will create 12 million jobs if elected.
I understand Tagg Romney wanted to take a swing at our President because his dad didn’t fair so well at the debate and Tagg was upset because the President called his father a liar., per a radio interview Tagg did yesterday morning. A little note to Tagg:
Tagg, if there were no Secret Service agents around and you took a swing at the PRESIDENT, He’d kick your punk azz. Plain and simple. Oh, and your dad is a liar. MASSGAP (40 womens groups in Mass.) has said what happened. Your father lied with an audience of 6
5+ million Americans listening. David Bernstien, who was deeply involved with the entire process and he stated on world-wide television what took place. MASSGAP, they are the group that approached your father and Shannon O’bryan, the Democratic canidate PRIOR to the election, and Mrs. O’bryan signed a pledge first, pledging to seek out qualified women for government appoiontments. There were also forums PRIOR to the election discussing the very gathering of women to be propelled into government positions, again PRIOR to the election (did I say that already?). So how did your dad reach out to these groups as he said he did AFTER he was elected? They also said the first 19 appointments made were to men and your dad was called on it and then women were appointed. It has been said they were business associates who donated to your dad’s campaign. It’s going to be kind of hard getting out of this one. In the words of Ricky Riccardo, “Lucy, you got some xplaning to do”. Also, if your dad worked in business for so many years, why did he have to seek names of qualified woman? Didn’t he know any qualified women throughout the many years of his vast business experience? Did he not feel that the women he had dealings with were not up to it?
Bruno
October 18th, 2012
12:44 pm
Hey, TD, glad to see you. Have you made any picks for this weekend?? I need some winners. I murdered them on college football last Sat, then drew a blank on Sunday.
Tiberius - pulling the tail of the left AND right when needed
October 18th, 2012
12:47 pm
As the re-election of their Messiah becomes less and less likely, the libs are becoming more and more unhinged on this blog.
Bruno
October 18th, 2012
12:48 pm
Some more Trower for Matz to help cheer her up
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9zAfcX-iT5M
Thulsa Doom
October 18th, 2012
12:49 pm
Bruno,
I was on a role but got my buttkickkng a couple Satdays ago on fsu/clemson weekend. Still way up for the year though. Haven’t looked at this weekend yet.
Bruno
October 18th, 2012
12:50 pm
Tagg, if there were no Secret Service agents around and you took a swing at the PRESIDENT, He’d kick your punk azz.
NAVY VET–I think my bunny rabbit could take Obama down in a one-on-one……
Matz
October 18th, 2012
12:51 pm
Bruno,
Your spirit of optimism is inspiring. Bless your heart. Hey, is your lady still putting up with you? If so, you oughtta put THREE rings on her, to trap her and keep her. Heh… (http://d22zlbw5ff7yk5.cloudfront.net/images/cm-26717-2507efaa907c2a.jpeg) The ties that bind are sacred!
Bruno
October 18th, 2012
12:52 pm
Haven’t looked at this weekend yet.
Do me a favor and drop by on Fri night and we can compare notes. I’ve been owning it on the college side.
getalife
October 18th, 2012
12:52 pm
After the last two beat downs we get four more years of the gop not destroying our country againn.
Country first, not failed gop party first.
You deserve to lose.
Start acting like Americans and support the folks in Libya getting the terrorists.
Del
October 18th, 2012
12:52 pm
Democrat ignorance is certainly reflected in the 12:43. The party of irresponsibility has taken on the intelligence equivalent of its symbol.
Thulsa Doom
October 18th, 2012
12:52 pm
Libs sure seem to be talking the violence up now that their guy is trailing example navy vet.
Tiberius - pulling the tail of the left AND right when needed
October 18th, 2012
12:55 pm
You know getalife has nothing to say on the topic when he repeats the same thing over and over again.
Next he’ll be questioning our patriotism . . .
‘Cause that’s all he’s got.
Bruno
October 18th, 2012
12:55 pm
Hey, is your lady still putting up with you?
Still going strong, thanks. I took her to Atlantic City in August, Hilton Head in September, and Biloxi last week. She loves the spa treatment the casinos offer.
Hope all is well with you, beautiful. I’ll pass that picture along to her.
JDW
October 18th, 2012
12:56 pm
@Tiberius…”That would be your first time thinking on this blog”
Found this just for you…details of the Romney tax plan
http://www.romneytaxplan.com/
BTW I see you begging for lottery numbers a lot lately…you planning on that for your retirement?
Thulsa Doom
October 18th, 2012
12:58 pm
Bruno
I’ll try. Im going to be on the road but will take a look and maybe get the girl to drive while i tend to impodent stuff like gambling.
getalife
October 18th, 2012
12:58 pm
There is no patriotism from the cons.
You set a horrible precedent to freak out after a attack, refuse to unite to get the terrorists and attack our President instead.
cons are terrorists sympathizers.Period.
Del
October 18th, 2012
1:01 pm
“.Period.”
get, is that the reason your comments are so over the top this afternoon?
snoqualmiefalls
October 18th, 2012
1:02 pm
Sure lets talk about gaming the system folks….. especially folks like TBan.
Lets look at the Tea Peoples Republic of Arizona for instance and see how the TeaGop will succeed.
Lets look at what the largest county in Arizona has done to insure people, Latinos, show up to vote on the wrong day.
“The Miracopa County elections dept. mistakenly listed the wrong date of the upcoming general election on an official government document. The error appears on a document containing a voter ID card. In the corner of the document, it says November 6 in English but in Spanish it reads 8 de Noviember”. Scripps Media 10/18/2012
So this is a winning formula for the Tea people… Gotta love it.
Tiberius - pulling the tail of the left AND right when needed
October 18th, 2012
1:03 pm
“BTW I see you begging for lottery numbers a lot lately…you planning on that for your retirement?”
Already retired, JDW, and on my own terms, thank you.
And I’m not a liberal, so I don’t beg for anything.
JamVet
October 18th, 2012
1:03 pm
Hiya, gang.
Can only stay for a minute; off to Nebraska, family, Runzas, stopping by that hallowed stadium in Lincoln and generally eating and drinking too much!
Thanks, for the Trower, B. You rock, buddy.
I love my life and I’m so jazzed today, I don’t even have the energy to argue politics with Kyle’s gang of misfits. (j/k)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HBoq8aoWB4E
Bruno
October 18th, 2012
1:04 pm
while i tend to impodent stuff like gambling.
I had to bust PB while we were in Biloxi last week. She played the slots while I played in a poker tourney. When I came looking for her on a break, I found her with a drink in one hand and a cigarette in the other while sitting in front of a machine. I told her that with a little more effort, she could take care of all 7 deadly sins in one night.
JDW
October 18th, 2012
1:05 pm
@Tiberius…”on my own terms”
Yours or Uncle Sam’s you old 47 percenter.
Thulsa Doom
October 18th, 2012
1:06 pm
Next he will be questioning our patriotism. Right on cue a moment later. Gawd that was funny.
getalife
October 18th, 2012
1:07 pm
del,
“It’s disgraceful that the Obama Administration’s first response was not to condemn attacks on our diplomatic missions, but to sympathize with those who waged the attacks,” Romney added.
You will hear this quote in the next debate.
mitt should apologize and even his party said he was dead wrong for that.
mitt is not a leader. Period.
sharon
October 18th, 2012
1:08 pm
Can someone please explain to me how a survey of one to two thousand people can predict who is going to win a particular state. Polls are very, very misleading. When these polls are taken the demographics should be included. How many young, black, latinos, women, democrats, republicans were polled in the latest polls? Polls are used to disencourage and intimidate. All of this is nothing but overblown smoke. The only poll that counts is November 6th.
Tiberius - pulling the tail of the left AND right when needed
October 18th, 2012
1:10 pm
“Yours or Uncle Sam’s you old 47 percenter.”
Mine, JDW. ALWAYS mine. I don’t let others dictate terms for me.
And I’m too young to draw my Social Security just yet, but since I contributed mightily towards it (without my consent), I can’t wait to get my own back in about 10 years or so.
Thulsa Doom
October 18th, 2012
1:12 pm
Bruno
I’ve seen that look before of a woman at her slot machine, legs folded, cig in one hand, drink in the same other. Very sexy. Unless its granny at the machine of course.
@@
October 18th, 2012
1:12 pm
After almost four years, you’d think Obama could grow up.
Obama Mocks Romney in Iowa Over ‘Binders’
First it was the cutesie Big Bird approach and now it’s Women in Binders.
Since he’s taking his lead from twits, maybe we should start calling him Tweety Bird?
schnirt
getalife
October 18th, 2012
1:15 pm
It is not cute or funny.
It is disgusting unpatriotic behavior.
They should deport him back to Mexico to live on daddy’s Mormon compound there.
Bruno
October 18th, 2012
1:15 pm
Can someone please explain to me how a survey of one to two thousand people can predict who is going to win a particular state. Polls are very, very misleading.
sharon–If you study statistics, they mathematically create a “confidence interval” by which a certain size sample is supposed to reliably predict the characteristics of a much larger population within a certain margin of error. Personally, I’ve never been convinced of that simply based upon random probability distributions. If you poll only a thousand people, I don’t believe those results can be accurately projected to millions of folks.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Confidence_interval
Bruno
October 18th, 2012
1:16 pm
Very sexy. Unless its granny at the machine of course.
Let’s just say that we crossed a few more sins off the list later that night.
getalife
October 18th, 2012
1:16 pm
@@,
Are you in a binder?
@@
October 18th, 2012
1:17 pm
Can only stay for a minute; off to Nebraska
Sounds like a teenager reporting in.
Bruno
October 18th, 2012
1:18 pm
Back to work, will check in later……
@@
October 18th, 2012
1:19 pm
Getalife:
I’m sure my resume has shown up in a binder somewhere.
Much ado about nothing. Guess that’s to be expected when nothing is all you’ve got.
yako
October 18th, 2012
1:20 pm
Cheesy grits????!!!!! What the hell does that mean? Nice to see you have an open-door policy on mentally retarded posters! LOL
Matz
October 18th, 2012
1:21 pm
I agree with getalife.
The double standard is offensive. Claim whatever y’all want to claim, but if you enjoyed attacking the President on the Libya thing before the bodies were even cold, and before the intell was sorted out, then “patriotism” is NOT on your list of personal qualities.
Lil' Barry Bailout - Vote American
October 18th, 2012
1:24 pm
Oopsies! Turns out Obozo has investments in the Cayman Islands.
Know-nothing libtard talking point go bye-bye!
Lil' Barry Bailout - Vote American
October 18th, 2012
1:25 pm
If you’re offended by “binders”, then you’re an effing moron.
Thulsa Doom
October 18th, 2012
1:25 pm
@@,
To be fair they do have binders, big bird, and millionaires and billionaires.
The AntiBoortz
October 18th, 2012
1:28 pm
At last, specifics for all you annoying libs who need “DETAILS”!
Just Posted: http://www.romneytaxplan.com/
Read and Be Prepared!
jms
October 18th, 2012
1:28 pm
Let’s get rid of the electoral college.
Thulsa Doom
October 18th, 2012
1:29 pm
Matz
With respect to the dead i am reminded of bush lied troops died crap from the left.
Tiberius - pulling the tail of the left AND right when needed
October 18th, 2012
1:32 pm
“I agree with getalife.”
Color me shocked . . .
“if you enjoyed attacking the President on the Libya thing before the bodies were even cold, and before the intell was sorted out,”
No one I know enjoys attacking the President. We pity him and his pathetic performance in office, however. And as to pointing out the fallacy of his, and his administration’s statements and responses to the attack in Libya, many of us are just pointing out the obvious; it was NOT spontaneous from the very first knowledge of it (no one brings RPGs to a demonstration), so then everything else they claimed became suspect – since they weren’t telling the truth from the first minute.
You libs might like to fawn over everything this government says, but “patriotic” Americans know to question government at every turn.
We questioned the sudden drop in unemployment numbers, and lo and behold, we find out the largest state in the nation’s figures aren’t in the calculation. You think maybe the world’s 8th largest economy’s numbers might negatively, especially when their economy is tanking?
Questioning authority is the ultimate patriotism.
JamVet
October 18th, 2012
1:33 pm
Thanks old h@g…
One for the road…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3TpfK-4gS08
bluecoat
October 18th, 2012
1:33 pm
CC hollering the plane boss the plane.All time it’s big bird.Romney binders-cc blinders.
getalife
October 18th, 2012
1:34 pm
“Ann Romney: No More Campaigns If We Lose”
They hate “you people”
They will be gone in a couple of weeks.
@@
October 18th, 2012
1:35 pm
Call YOU the Breeze?
More like Classical Gas.
thbbppppbbbbppppppbbtttt
TBone
October 18th, 2012
1:38 pm
HRS for Men sounds alot like Gravy Stain.
getalife
October 18th, 2012
1:39 pm
Sad to see women support a man that is against equal pay for women.
mitt could not even answer to this fact in the debate.
Not a leader for the 21st century.
cc
October 18th, 2012
1:41 pm
“it says November 6 in English but in Spanish it reads 8 de Noviember”
Why should an election in AMERICA be referenced in SPANISH?
Tiberius - pulling the tail of the left AND right when needed
October 18th, 2012
1:42 pm
“Sad to see women support a man that is against equal pay for women.”
Please provide any statement made or position taken by Mitt Romney that backs up your assertion, getallife.
Matz
October 18th, 2012
1:44 pm
Thulsa,
With all due respect, that didn’t happen on 9/12/01. It’s one thing to question our leaders’ decisions when the effects become clear. That’s our duty as citizens. It’s another thing to jump in with blame and judgement five seconds after getting a headline, before the details are even known.
Vote Democrat,,,Beats Using Your Brain
October 18th, 2012
1:46 pm
Why should Romney apologize for telling the truth. Obama is a Muslim sympathizer. It’s the way he was raised by his mother and grandparents. He couldn’t even use the word Terrorists in the debate, three times he referred to the terrorists that killed Americans as those ‘folks’,
He is not and never has been a leader.
Vote Democrat,,,Beats Using Your Brain
October 18th, 2012
1:52 pm
Romney and women. How about the views of those who should know?
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/10/17/women-including-ex-cabinet-members-rally-around-romney-binder-project/
Finn McCool (The System isn't Broken; It's Fixed)
October 18th, 2012
1:56 pm
binder reviews at amazon.com
http://www.amazon.com/Avery-Durable-Binder-EZ-Turn-17032/product-reviews/B001B0CTMU/ref=dp_top_cm_cr_acr_txt?ie=UTF8&showViewpoints=1
hehehehe
southpaw
October 18th, 2012
1:57 pm
it says November 6 in English but in Spanish it reads 8 de Noviember
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OK, let’s stick to English then. Conservatives vote on November 6. Liberals vote on November 8.
Vote Democrat,,,Beats Using Your Brain
October 18th, 2012
2:02 pm
I suppose Obama will tell Avery they didn’t build that binder
Tiberius - pulling the tail of the left AND right when needed
October 18th, 2012
2:07 pm
“How about you prove the existence of any woman who was appointed to a management position at Bain Capital?”
In case you missed it, Gravy Stain, I’m not the one questioning Romney’s hires. Therefore, I don’t have to provide proof of anything.
Dusty
October 18th, 2012
2:13 pm
Hey, I’m not upset over who said what about Libya. Having our ambassaor and his security all killed is enough to get upset about. More Americans killed in the line of duty, doing what they thought best for our country. Now that is patriotism of the highest kind.
The White House said that Hillary was responsible for Libya info booboos, didn’t they? Hillary, the most dependable person in the executive branch gets dumped on. I don’t think she will stick around much longer no matter what happens next in Washington.
MarkV
October 18th, 2012
2:14 pm
“He couldn’t even use the word Terrorists in the debate, three times he referred to the terrorists that killed Americans as those ‘folks’,”
Romney talks about terrorists. Obama orders them to be killed.
Kyle Wingfield
October 18th, 2012
2:17 pm
AntiBoortz: I will admit to having a good laugh when I saw that site yesterday.
MarkV
October 18th, 2012
2:18 pm
Dusty @2:13 pm: “The White House said that Hillary was responsible for Libya info booboos, didn’t they? Hillary, the most dependable person in the executive branch gets dumped on. I don’t think she will stick around much longer no matter what happens next in Washington.”
The truth:
OBAMA: “Secretary Clinton has done an extraordinary job. But she works for me. I’m the president and I’m always responsible, and that’s why nobody’s more interested in finding out exactly what happened than I do.”
Tiberius - pulling the tail of the left AND right when needed
October 18th, 2012
2:19 pm
“Romney talks about terrorists. Obama orders them to be killed.”
Given the fact that Romney isn’t Commander-in-Chief – yet – and can’t order them killed – yet – yours is about the dumbest statement ever made on this blog, and that’s going some, MarkV . . .
Vote Democrat,,,Beats Using Your Brain
October 18th, 2012
2:21 pm
Obama doesn’t kill Terrorists. Remember that term is no longer acceptable. He kills ‘those folks’.
Vote Democrat,,,Beats Using Your Brain
October 18th, 2012
2:23 pm
Obama knew what happened within 24 hours of these killings. He can’t admit it because it would hurt him politically or he really thinks that AlQaeda is week and going away. Either way, he is not fit to execute our Foreign Policy.
Rafe Hollister, suffering through Oblamer's ineptocracy
October 18th, 2012
2:25 pm
Dems on the attack again, here are the facts that dispute their claims.
1. Obama has paid women working in the White House 18% less than the men. Binders make you upset?
2. Obama has a pension, it is bigger than Romney’s, it is also invested in Caymen Island companies
3. MA is not going to Romney and it has nothing to do with Romney’s record. The first socialist nominated for President by the Dems, George McGovern, (1972)received electoral votes from only two entities, the District of Columbia and guess the other………………..MA. They would vote for Putin if he ran as a Dem.
4. Jobs created in MA lagged under Romney: why because unemployment there was under 5%, for most of his term. Hard to create jobs when everyone has one.
I am sure you libs will ignore the facts and continue with your talking points but many of them are just pure bunk.
cc
October 18th, 2012
2:26 pm
“I’m the president and I’m always responsible”
Maybe Obama will now step up and accept responsibility for the death of Brian Terry, but I doubt it. He has already invoked executive privilege to protect both Eric Withholder and himself.
Tiberius - pulling the tail of the left AND right when needed
October 18th, 2012
2:30 pm
“I’m the president and I’m always responsible”
Just not for the economy, or unemployment or . . . .
Rafe Hollister, suffering through Oblamer's ineptocracy
October 18th, 2012
2:31 pm
In disputing the fact that he was absorbed with fund raising on 11 Sep, Obama said, no he was following the attack in Benghazi in real time. The thing went on for four or more hours, so he had to have been informed. This latest talking point about him needing to two weeks to figure out what happened is pure bunk also.
Dusty
October 18th, 2012
2:33 pm
MarkV
Hillary’s name had been promoted as dispenser of info or the president would not have mentioned her. If he were responsible as he was, she should never have been mentioned. He did the right thing after the wrong thing was done.
Bush made the first order to capture/ kill Osama soon after 9/11. If Osama had been found he would have been executed immediately. I don’t know why it took a cabinet meeting to decide to finish the life of Osama.when that understanding was already long standing. President Clinton knew that. That is why he ordered bombing raids on a factory and a training camp, only to kill Osama. That failed.
Anyway, new “sheets’ upstairs.
Rafe Hollister, suffering through Oblamer's ineptocracy
October 18th, 2012
2:39 pm
http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/295875/stop-obama-s-war-women-staffers-deroy-murdock
MarkV
October 18th, 2012
2:40 pm
Tiberius @2:19 pm
Tiberius, when you are so dumb you cannot comprehend an argument, why do you “open your mouth” to let everybody know that?
MarkV
October 18th, 2012
2:43 pm
Dusty @ 2:33 pm
Dusty,
I cringe when I read such expression of ignorance coming from you.
cc
October 18th, 2012
2:48 pm
Never argue with an idiot: they will only drag you down to their level and beat you with experience!
Lambeau
October 18th, 2012
3:08 pm
Here we go again today Mark…. We will learn in due time why Obama waited two weeks + to admit it was a *planned terrorist attack*. The horse will be dead and burried and you will still be beating the ground with your fists. You lost. Your “argument” is not valid. Get over it.
MarkV
October 18th, 2012
3:40 pm
Lambeau @ 3:08 pm
I understand. Your way to win an argument is to say that the other guy has lost. It does not require any brainpower, which is fortunate for you.
Lambeau
October 18th, 2012
3:55 pm
That wasn’t my way to “win the argument” because it has already been won. You can keep trying to convince yourself that I lied and that Obama didnt say the attack was because of the video in his UN Speech but it wont make it true.
Dusty
October 18th, 2012
4:08 pm
Mark V 2:43
Keep on cringing. A lot of liberals are doing that these days because they decide that truth is ignorance. No credit for you as you continue to be part of the blind adulation crowd.
Tiberius - pulling the tail of the left AND right when needed
October 18th, 2012
4:21 pm
“Tiberius, when you are so dumb you cannot comprehend an argument, why do you “open your mouth” to let everybody know that?”
I’m sorry, MarkV. I hadn’t realized that a bumper sticker post from you constituted an “argument”
MarkV
October 18th, 2012
4:33 pm
Dusty @ 4:08 pm
Dusty,
I suspect you do not believe me, but I often sincerely wish to discuss with rationaly you some issue,on which we do not agree. I have an impression, however, that you often write something from emotion instead of reason, and never think about what you had written.
What you wrote @2:33 pm about Bin Laden (also, I do not know why you brought him up, I had not mentioned him), OMG, it was so unbelievably ignorant and naïve, I did not just cringe, I felt genuinely embarrassed that you could have written that.
MarkV
October 18th, 2012
4:35 pm
Tiberius, I understand. Even a bumper sticker would be too much for you to comprehend.
MarkV
October 18th, 2012
4:45 pm
Lambeau @3:55 pm
You could have tried to win the argument by quoting one or more sentences from Obama’s speech at the UN and then show evidence that any of them was a lie. Quick and easy, and the end of it. You failed to do that, and instead you proclaimed yourself a winner. That is the way of a coward.
Tiberius - pulling the tail of the left AND right when needed
October 18th, 2012
5:36 pm
“That is the way of a coward.”
And MarkV recognizes what a coward is.
He stares at one in the mirror every day of his life.
MarkV
October 18th, 2012
5:45 pm
Tiberius, if you want to amuse us with your asinine attacks, why don’t you at least try to write something new? You have used this one too many times.
Tiberius - pulling the tail of the left AND right when needed
October 18th, 2012
6:01 pm
MarkV, if you want to amuse us with your asinine wordsmithing and lack of intelligence, why don’t you at least try something new.
MarkV
October 18th, 2012
6:09 pm
Tiberius, flattery will get you nowhere. (Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery).
Tiberius - pulling the tail of the left AND right when needed
October 18th, 2012
6:13 pm
Sarcasm is beyond you, MarkV.
But then. so are intelligent posts from you as well.
MarkV
October 18th, 2012
6:24 pm
Tiberius, I have amused myself enough by your stupidities for one day. I will take to heart the admonition of cc @ 2:48 pm, and will stop arguing with you. You can keep showing the world your lack of brainpower as long as you want.
Tiberius - pulling the tail of the left AND right when needed
October 18th, 2012
6:31 pm
Glad to chase you off, son.
Take it as a suggestion to stay away from arguing with your betters.
Mash
October 19th, 2012
10:51 am
TYpically, I might agree with the analysis. However, I still think that the dead vote will end up swinging this election in Obama’s favor.