Revelations from Benghazi are damning for Obama

This election’s “October surprise” may turn out to be the truth about something that happened in September.

Remember the rush by the Obama administration to blame the deadly attack on the U.S. consulate in Benghazi, Libya, on a reaction to a movie trailer offensive to Muslims? Well, like everything else in the Obama administration, that story had an expiration date. Here’s ABC News’ Jonathan Karl explaining:

For those who can’t/won’t watch the video, here’s the relevant section from Karl, citing a “senior State Department official”:

At the time [of the Benghazi killings], as you recall, we were told it was a protest that went bad and became an attack. Now we are told there was no protest going on outside that embassy. The first indication that they heard anything outside the walls of the … consulate compound was an explosion from gunfire.

Read that again: “There was no protest going on outside that embassy.” It’s not that the protest isn’t what led to the murders of Ambassador Chris Stevens and three other Americans; it’s long been suspected that the alleged protest was used as a diversion, created or merely convenient, by the terrorists who wanted to kill Stevens. Rather, there was no protest to begin with.

This is a damning revelation for Obama, who repeatedly invoked the video in his public remarks about the attack. It’s all the more so because Obama’s response to Mitt Romney’s statement about the attack in Benghazi and same-day protest in Cairo, Egypt, was that the Republican has “a tendency to shoot first and aim later.”

Kind of like blaming a non-existent protest based on an obscure movie for sparking the death of our ambassador, Mr. President?

Combine this news with another story reported this week for the first time:

A U.S. security officer twice asked his State Department superiors for more security agents for the American mission in Benghazi months before an attack that killed the U.S. ambassador to Libya and three other Americans, but he got no response.

The officer, Eric Nordstrom, who was based in Tripoli until about two months before the September attack, said a State Department official, Charlene Lamb, wanted to keep the number of U.S. security personnel in Benghazi “artificially low,” according to a memo summarizing his comments to a congressional committee that was obtained by Reuters.

The consequences of this action, quite obviously, were most grave and tragic for Stevens, the other three Americans killed, and their families.

But these stories also ought to have serious ramifications in the presidential election. A president who is touting his competence and foreign-policy success has a lot of explaining to do about incompetence and a tragedy overseas.

– By Kyle Wingfield

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I demand to see Cheesy Grits Birth Certificate- Long Form Please

October 10th, 2012
11:33 am

Politicizing the death of 4 Americans for Political gain is pretty disgusting.

But yet Republicans can kill hundreds of thousands in Iraq looking for WMD’s and that’s really not a big deal.

Unbelievable.

I demand to see Cheesy Grits Birth Certificate- Long Form Please

October 10th, 2012
11:36 am

I am curious what Cheesy Grits’s etch a sketch will tell him to say about this today.

Remember he was for intervention in Libya.

Then against it.

Then when it worked getting rid of Gaddafi he was for it again.

I demand to see Cheesy Grits Birth Certificate- Long Form Please

October 10th, 2012
11:38 am

Heck Romney even switched positions on Abortion in one day.

Go over to Bookman if you dont believe me.

Verbal Kint

October 10th, 2012
11:43 am

Cheesy ….. better get to your panic room.

Verbal Kint

October 10th, 2012
11:44 am

“But yet Republicans can kill hundreds of thousands in Iraq looking for WMD’s and that’s really not a big deal.”

And Pelosi, et al voted to go into Iraq….yep.

Rafe Hollister, suffering through Oblamer's ineptocracy

October 10th, 2012
11:46 am

We could have provided those security resources, if we had not spent the money financing Big Bird.

Obama: It is Big Bird’s fault.

lmno

October 10th, 2012
11:46 am

Sounds like Obama was wrong. I don’t see it all that damning. He was wrong about why some Americans were killed. Its not like he used that faulty intellegence and then reacted in some way that harmed the country.

Its a shame that these men were killed. Whether they were killed in a planned attack or spontaneous is not all that relevant. What is relevant is what are we doing to find the people responsible?

Kyle Wingfield

October 10th, 2012
11:49 am

So, now holding a president accountable for a) telling a falsehood about b) a security failure that happened on his watch equals “politicizing” the deaths?

This, from a supporter of the president who said he wouldn’t “spike the football” on OBL’s death, up until the moment he … spiked the football at the DNC?

You know, Cheesy, you really should either share whatever you’re smoking with the rest of us, or buy a new dictionary.

Rafe Hollister, suffering through Oblamer's ineptocracy

October 10th, 2012
11:51 am

The State Dept now says that from day 1, they knew that it was a terrorist attack. I’m guessing they lied to their boss, or he didn’t get the memo, or the email never got printed out, or he believed Susan Rice because he saw her on TV, or he had an important trip to Vegas and was out of the loop.

Whatever, I am sure it wasn’t Obama’s fault that this false narrative got into the news. Nothing is ever his fault.

Maybe it is a vast right wing conspiracy.

AtlSteve

October 10th, 2012
11:51 am

“a tendency to shoot first and aim later.”

Isn’t that what got Obama into Beer-gate?

Kyle Wingfield

October 10th, 2012
11:51 am

lmno: It’s damning because, even as the investigation into the attack was just beginning, Obama repeatedly laid the blame at the feet of an obscure filmmaker for provoking the “protesters” — and then had the chutzpah to say Romney “shoots first and aims later” for the sin of blaming the terrorists.

Kyle Wingfield

October 10th, 2012
11:52 am

Rafe, and anyone else: Have you ever seen an unnamed State Department official essentially throw the President of the United States under the bus like that? Unreal.

Kyle Wingfield

October 10th, 2012
11:53 am

AtlSteve: Yep.

Rafe Hollister, suffering through Oblamer's ineptocracy

October 10th, 2012
11:56 am

Imno
What is relevant is what are we doing to find the people responsible?

NO, what is relevant is that this administration LIED to the American people, to further their political agenda. He had to know that the State Dept branded this a terrorist incident from day 1 and there was never any protest outside the consulate, so where did he come up with this baloney about the video. Carney and Rice went on and on about this video for days, when it was immaterial to the discussion.

curious

October 10th, 2012
11:58 am

Don’t see anything new.

When you’re in Foreign Service in a country as fragile as Libya, you know the risks.
Intelligence is always great in hindsight.
Somebody in the State Department make a decision that went wrong; happens every day.
At the time, with all the protests going on, the assumption that they were part of the consulate attack. Not completely unreasonable.
As for Democrats and Republicans voting for the Iraq operation, that wasn’t unreasonable, based on intelligence that somebody got wrong.

Rafe Hollister, suffering through Oblamer's ineptocracy

October 10th, 2012
12:01 pm

It is always the coverup that brings them down. Had Obama admitted it was a terrorist attack and promised to find and bring to justice the perps, this would be old news.

No, Kyle, I have never seen a State Dept official throw a sitting President under the bus like this before. Probably indicates there is significant contempt for him in the State Dept as there is in the Military.

Hillbilly D

October 10th, 2012
12:02 pm

This thing didn’t pass the smell test from day one. It seems to me like a grand exercise in CYA.

littleleers

October 10th, 2012
12:04 pm

There is NO defense for Obama & Co. in the cover up of Benghazi-Gate. The Obamabots continue to cover for dear leader by attacking Mitt Romney or GWB. Helllllloooooooo….Obama has been POTUS for four years and Hillary Clinton his SOS. The buck stops there…four Americans dead who would have been safe had their pleas for security been granted. Blood dripping from the hands of Obama…oh and did you know he went to bed when he was told the ambassador had gone missing? And not only that, after the four Americans were found dead by terrorist attack, Obama jetted off for a Las Vegas Fundraiser. Obama is a malignant narcissist and a danger to every American!

Hillbilly D

October 10th, 2012
12:05 pm

Rafe, and anyone else: Have you ever seen an unnamed State Department official essentially throw the President of the United States under the bus like that? Unreal.

I haven’t. Usually the conflict is State Department vs Pentagon, with each taking the expected course. I think this one shows a lot of discontent, at least somewhere in the State Department, if not at or near the top.

It is always the cover-up that brings them down.

If Nixon taught us anything, he taught us that.

Tiberius - pulling the tail of the left AND right when needed

October 10th, 2012
12:06 pm

“Go over to Bookman if you dont believe me.”

Funniest line of the day, Cheesy! :lol:

If I’m going over to Bookman’s, it ain’t for the truth.

getalife

October 10th, 2012
12:07 pm

It sad to see gop congress voted for trillions for the military but cut State Dept by over 300 million to get Americans killed.

southpaw

October 10th, 2012
12:07 pm

Some posts on recent blogs have been variations of “but…but…but…Reagan,” referring to the massacre in Beirut fairly early in his first term. I wonder if President Obama, like President Reagan, will step up and take responsibility for what happened on his watch?

Tiberius - pulling the tail of the left AND right when needed

October 10th, 2012
12:09 pm

Who knew that Obama would be the reincarnation of Richard M. Nixon.

It’s never the lie, but the ensuing coverup.

Auntie Christ

October 10th, 2012
12:11 pm

Must be all the Halloween decorations on display now that has caused wingfield and his ditto heads to go all ghoulish on us. This piece almost seems celebratory in its aspect. “Lookie, lookie everybody, we have four dead diplomats, and we can play it out for all its worth to embarrass Obama. Drinks are on me!”

getalife

October 10th, 2012
12:12 pm

miit wants another 2 trillion increase but will cut State Dept.funding too to get more Americans killed.

The blame for Libya is on gop congress for cutting State Dept. funding..

Benghazi is a consulate not a embassy and the funds go to work with the Libyan government at their capital not Benghazi.

So don’t give me that priority crap, take the blame gop congress.

Tiberius - pulling the tail of the left AND right when needed

October 10th, 2012
12:13 pm

“It sad to see gop congress voted for trillions for the military but cut State Dept by over 300 million to get Americans killed.”

Considering that there hasn’t been a budget passed in over 1000 days, getalife, your comment is, as usual, grossly inaccurate.

You can vote to “cut” anything, but if a budget doesn’t pass, you get the same amount you always got – IF the department in question CHOOSES to use it. The State Dept. chose not to. This failure is ALL on the administration – NOT on Congress.

HILLARY TOLD ME TO SAY IT

October 10th, 2012
12:14 pm

I inherited the worst successful terror attack since 9/11/2001. Also, I underestimated the extent of the terror in that part of the world, and so my explanation package was not sufficient to quell the damage. As your President, I will work every day to provide a new explanation and I won’t rest until you accept it.

king of mean

October 10th, 2012
12:15 pm

….then, to top it all off, the maker of this great “film” gets identified and more-or-less incriminated to the point that he and his familty have had to run for their lives even though we still live in the land of free speech… even though this had absolutely NOTHING to do with Ambassador Stevens and those folks losing their lives on a sovereign patch of land.

who are they (this administration) really trying to protect?

smh…

Tiberius - pulling the tail of the left AND right when needed

October 10th, 2012
12:16 pm

Oh, and getalife? Security goes with the ambassador – wherever he or she happens to be. Doesn’t matter if they are at a consulate or an embassy.

You really need to bone up on your facts today.

getalife

October 10th, 2012
12:16 pm

“Mitt Romney got the capital of Libya wrong in his opportunistic statement this morning criticizing the President about his handling of the attacks against the US embassy in Cairo and the US consulate in Benghazi, Libya.”

The capital of Libya is Tripoli cons and you candidate has no freaking clue.

That is where the funding goes and the gop cut it.

Man up and take the blame.

Our President’s name is not Barry, it is President Obama.

You should apologize for that.

Joe The Plumber Too

October 10th, 2012
12:16 pm

Wow, watching the libs come up with excuse after excuse for this worthless liar in chief is exhausting. They could see something happen with their own eyes and barry say it didn’t and they would believe him. Amazing.

getalife

October 10th, 2012
12:19 pm

Libya was in charge of protecting the consulate. The hero that was killed liked to work among the Libyans because they loved him and tried to save him. All the facts are not known yet so media is spewing speculation.

getalife

October 10th, 2012
12:20 pm

The hearing is premature but the gop are playing politics like they always do.

Tiberius - pulling the tail of the left AND right when needed

October 10th, 2012
12:22 pm

How many lies can getalife post on this subject?

Count all his posts and you’ll get that number.

Georgia

October 10th, 2012
12:23 pm

If only W were still our prez, then we could invade Iran for the terrorist attack in Libya.

Del

October 10th, 2012
12:24 pm

The administration’s has now been caught for previously pulling out an explanation from where the sun doesn’t shine and they’re now discovering why that explanation couldn’t flush. Attempted cover up of incompetence a legacy of this presidency.

getalife

October 10th, 2012
12:26 pm

You wait for the reports and then hold the hearings on the report.

The gop chose to play politics instead.

Where is the patriotism?

Joe The Plumber Too

October 10th, 2012
12:27 pm

yeah, getalife, now the state department is lying on the white house, huh? C’mon get over your man crush already. There is no shame in backing a loser, first your football team and now the pretender in chief. The only shame is not opening your eyes, there is no virtue in going down with the ship.

Dusty

October 10th, 2012
12:27 pm

Good work, Kyle. Glad to see you with fire in the fiber.

The president was either lying or uninformed. Either way shows incompetence. We have a great need for some executive action in the White House. The country is like a ship without a captain.

By the way (off subject), I am so pleased that Pakistanis are really really mad at the Taliban for shooting the fourteen year old girl, famous for her actions against the Taliban’s suppression of women’s education. Good for enraged citizens against terrorists!!

Hillbilly D

October 10th, 2012
12:31 pm

Libya was in charge of protecting the consulate.

It’s a mistake to ever depend on somebody else to protect your people, especially in a volatile part of the world.

Tiberius - pulling the tail of the left AND right when needed

October 10th, 2012
12:32 pm

When getalife finds himself losing his argument when facts are provided, he resorts to questioning someone’s patriotism.

As if he is the arbiter of it.

Bilbo

October 10th, 2012
12:34 pm

Hey southpaw we all know none of our so called leaders will do what Reagan, JFK, Truman, and the Roosevelts did and be man enough to take responsibility.

joe

October 10th, 2012
12:36 pm

Obama himself is damning for Obama…as is open mouth insert foot Joe Biden, which we will all see tomorrow night. Can’t wait for that one!!

Kyle Wingfield

October 10th, 2012
12:36 pm

getalife: This is the report. And the hearing is going on today. Catch up.

Bruno

October 10th, 2012
12:37 pm

A belated “Welcome Back” to you, Kyle. I hope that no one else in your family decides to get married or remarried prior to the election. It’s nice to have a forum in which to post comments.

This is a damning revelation for Obama, who repeatedly invoked the video in his public remarks about the attack. It’s all the more so because Obama’s response to Mitt Romney’s statement about the attack in Benghazi and same-day protest in Cairo, Egypt, was that the Republican has “a tendency to shoot first and aim later.”

If you go back to your original column on the attack, you will see that many of us Cons dismissed the Obama “explanation” out of hand from the gitgo, correctly stating that the film “protest” was just a smokescreen.

JF McNamara

October 10th, 2012
12:41 pm

I don’t think that getting attacked necessarily would have been an indictment on his foreign policy. We’re in a war on terror. A war indicates that at some point both sides play offense. The lying, however, is something I don’t care for.

Kyle Wingfield

October 10th, 2012
12:42 pm

Bruno: Thanks, it’s good to be back.

Bruno

October 10th, 2012
12:43 pm

But these stories also ought to have serious ramifications in the presidential election. A president who is touting his competence and foreign-policy success has a lot of explaining to do about incompetence and a tragedy overseas.

The prevailing Lib Theory these days seems to be that conservatives live in some kind of an echo chamber, drawing validation for our views strictly from one another. From my perspective, it is the Libs who remain seriously out of touch with reality. The only reason Obama was elected in the first place was as a backlash to the unpopularity of Bush in his last few years in office. Now, he’s going to have to stand on his own record, which is pretty dismal. His only strategy to remain in office is to continue to divide and demonize, along with offering lots of Free Stuff to his supporters.

nelson

October 10th, 2012
12:49 pm

The latest politisizing is the moderator or the up coming debate between Ryan-Biden. The President was a guest at Ms. Raddatz’s wedding. Indication that there is a friendship there that could influence Martha asking “fluff-ball” questions to the relatively inarticulate Joe and saving the politically “hard driving” questions for Paul. There really has to be a non partisan moderator for a debate to have significance.

DBCOOPER

October 10th, 2012
12:50 pm

Why does the AJC refuse to report on the Benghazi cover-up?

getalife

October 10th, 2012
12:50 pm

The FBI report Kyle?

Finn McCool (The System isn't Broken; It's Fixed)

October 10th, 2012
12:52 pm

a security failure that happened on his watch

LOL, the right ants to call out THIS President on this topic?

Lessee. Let’s do the math 5 military/political appointment personnel dead vs. 5,000 American CIVILIANS dead.

You Cons are such hypocrits. Make up excuses all day long and push blame to the 4 corners of the earth as long as it’s off your imbecile President.

getalife

October 10th, 2012
12:52 pm

Funny, cnn is reporting all the details are not known yet.

Why is that Kyle?

Shame on you and your failed party for playing politics with this.

Where is your patriotism?

Finn McCool (The System isn't Broken; It's Fixed)

October 10th, 2012
12:54 pm

Why does the AJC refuse to report on the Benghazi cover-up?

Cause it’s only a cover-up in the right wing bubble. It needs more legs before any substantial news agency will pick up on it.

Finn McCool (The System isn't Broken; It's Fixed)

October 10th, 2012
12:55 pm

Kyle’s already made up his mind. Guilty until proven innocent. Same thing with the Mexican gun non-starter.

Bruno

October 10th, 2012
12:56 pm

There really has to be a non partisan moderator for a debate to have significance.

nelson–I saw some criticism from the Lefties following the last debate that Romney bulldozed Jim Lehrer, even though later accounting showed that Obama spoke longer. Personally, I liked the format of the last debate in allowing the candidates to go head to head in a less structured way. Otherwise, you end up with simultaneous political infomercials in which the candidates simply regurgitate talking points.

getalife

October 10th, 2012
12:58 pm

They should be holding hearings on Turkey vs Syria war and what to do to help our ally Turkey.

Bruno

October 10th, 2012
1:01 pm

getalife–PB and I were just a stone’s throw from you Monday and Tuesday, spending a couple of days in Biloxi. We had a great time as always. She hung out at the spa at the Beau while I played in a poker tourney.

I thought of our own HD while traveling on Hwy 80 in Alabama, passing by “The Hillbilly Mall”. Quite a hoot:

http://blog.al.com/strange-alabama/2012/05/post_4.html

Michael

October 10th, 2012
1:03 pm

I see the “liberal media” is doing a full court attack on Obama for Romneys benifit. The Koch’s pay well I guess.

Joe The Plumber Too

October 10th, 2012
1:04 pm

poor, git and finny, all chickens are coming home to roost for their man-crush and the best they have is……..but Bush.

Mulugeta

October 10th, 2012
1:06 pm

“But these stories also ought to have serious ramifications in the presidential election.”

Agree. Unfortunately, except for a relatively small handful of us who pay attention, they won’t because most Americans go through life in ‘condition white’. Ask the average guy/gal on the street what Benghazi is and they’re apt to say it’s an imported car. What does grab and hold their attention and get votes @ election time is the promise of more government freebies.

DBCOOPER

October 10th, 2012
1:07 pm

Cause it’s only a cover-up in the right wing bubble

A LT COL is before Congress (under oath) with facts? The military as you surely know is not a Partisan organization. He is bringing facts. Not left not right just facts. Come on!!!

Not Blind

October 10th, 2012
1:08 pm

[D]= Don’t matter.

DBCOOPER

October 10th, 2012
1:09 pm

And OBTW is reading from records and emails from the embassy to the State Dept. As well as log books files etc.

Finn McCool (The System isn't Broken; It's Fixed)

October 10th, 2012
1:10 pm

Kyle shoulda saved this diversion for after he next debate where the Presidential contenders will be asked questions from the public.

iggy

October 10th, 2012
1:10 pm

Its not Obamas fault he got it wrong. He was only reading from his teleprompter.

Bruno

October 10th, 2012
1:12 pm

the “liberal media”

Michael–I think most intelligent people understand that when 90% + of media members vote Democrat, their reporting will naturally be biased in one direction. Any reason you have trouble accepting the truth??

Finn McCool (The System isn't Broken; It's Fixed)

October 10th, 2012
1:13 pm

A LT COL is before Congress (under oath) with facts?

Like Ollie North – another Con hero. I believe he was charged with lying to Congress and admitted to it. What a hero!

Jack

October 10th, 2012
1:13 pm

Kyle:

I really am beginning to believe that America is going to elect Governor Romney.

For a pro-business, “Rockefeller Republican”, this turn of events is more than I could have hoped for.

Governor Romney’s declaration yesterday that he will not pursue any abortion legislation is another example of where this pro-business candidate’s priorities lie – business and not the pursuit of social legislation.

I am certain he will lead as he did in Mass – the very thing that worries many of the idelogical “pure” of the right wing is one of the things that makes me admire him – his ability and belief that to get things done, you have to compromise and work with the other side of the aisle.

“Etch a Sketch”? Of course, we all knew all along that to get the nomination he had to turn sharply to the Right and then back to where he is more comfortable in order to win the election.

I am convinced we are one month away from beginning to put the awful partisan divide behind us and the beginning of a government that will protect those who can provide for more jobs.

It is as it always has been and will be – the business of America is busniess.

Hillbilly D

October 10th, 2012
1:14 pm

Personally, I liked the format of the last debate in allowing the candidates to go head to head in a less structured way.

I didn’t watch the debate but I agree that’s the way it should be. Too often, it’s some network talking head looking to play gotcha and increase his/her own stock. I always heard that one of the first rules was that a journalist isn’t supposed to be part of the story but that went out the window years ago. It’s hard to believe that anybody in the national media can be objective when they all travel in the same circles, go to the same dinner parties, etc. Example: Ever hear anything very critical of Alan Greenspan on NBC? Guess why (if you don’t already know).

And Bruno, I got a relative who is doing well in the folk art racket. ;-)

@@

October 10th, 2012
1:15 pm

This is a damning revelation for Obama, who repeatedly invoked the video in his public remarks about the attack. It’s all the more so because Obama’s response to Mitt Romney’s statement about the attack in Benghazi and same-day protest in Cairo, Egypt, was that the Republican has “a tendency to shoot first and aim later.”

While Obama has a tendency to shoot blind AND…..with blanks.

I was gonna say something about falling into a manhole.

Not gonna do it, wouldn’t be prudent.

The book I’m waiting to read? The one written by cabinet members who served under Obama. It’ll be a page burner fo’ sho.

Damning can’t begin to describe….

From the Center

October 10th, 2012
1:16 pm

“The capital of Libya is Tripoli cons and you candidate has no freaking clue”

This from a person use candidate thinks there are 57 states, you have to laugh at that for sure.

Joe The Plumber Too

October 10th, 2012
1:18 pm

oops, finny’s wittle wheels are coming off…….hey getalife, do you think finny is unpatriotic for questioning the honesty of a active serving member of our armed forces?

Finn McCool (The System isn't Broken; It's Fixed)

October 10th, 2012
1:21 pm

I guess tomorrow we will get Kyle’s blog regarding his outrage at the improbability of the jobs numbers.

sigh….. keep throwing stuff at the wall – maybe something will stick.

DBCOOPER

October 10th, 2012
1:24 pm

Finn

He’s reading emails from the security detail in Benghazi!!!!!!!! Not a lie ? How can it be? He’s reading someone elses email and logs. Come on man!!! Some people just refuse to see. Goddnight and goodluck. You’re a sheep.

@@

October 10th, 2012
1:26 pm

….keep throwing stuff at the wall – maybe something will stick.

That’s kinda what Obama did. Kept throwing the same limp noodle out there until the starch wore off.

The DAMNING truth is out!

His noodle’s on the floor.

Halftrack

October 10th, 2012
1:28 pm

Obummer is only reporting “present” for his duties and responsibilities of President. The world and the U.S. can wait on a “celebrity”. Our enemies are embolden as he sits on his “hands” and wonders what is going on. Do you feel better off today or you what is better?

Finn McCool (The System isn't Broken; It's Fixed)

October 10th, 2012
1:30 pm

The DAMNING truth is out!

Is this one call “Fast and…Stuff happens”?

iggy

October 10th, 2012
1:30 pm

Just more lies from Obama and his “State Dept.”

iggy

October 10th, 2012
1:33 pm

“As Congress holds hearings on the deadly Sept. 11 attack on the US Consulate in Libya, Hillary Clinton’s State Department offers a surprise denial of its own on-the-record comments — including those of UN Ambassador Susan Rice.”

Beautiful!!

Gimme Gimme Gimme

October 10th, 2012
1:33 pm

Kyle,

Do Chinese people say “Let’s eat American tonight”? ;)

JamVet

October 10th, 2012
1:34 pm

Had Mitt “I Was Dead Wrong” Romney (like that admission is any more believable that the rest of his endless flip flops!) not botched this from the get go with that moronic and disgusting statement, it could have been a political “win” for him.

But nope, Mr Foot in Mouth Disease had to screw it up.

No matter.

He is unfit to lead.

And won’t get the chance.

Better luck in 2016…

@@

October 10th, 2012
1:37 pm

Finn:

Big Bird has a shovel and pail for you and Obama

Scoop away!

You’re gonna need a bigger pail. Lotsa “stuff”.

Joe The Plumber Too

October 10th, 2012
1:37 pm

and jammy rides in on his blind steed to try and rescue finny and git………..from themselves.
Priceless

curious

October 10th, 2012
1:37 pm

All comments either blast Obama/Democrats or Bush/Romney/Republicans.

Why not cut out the extra verbage and just write ________ is a jerk?

Gimme Gimme Gimme

October 10th, 2012
1:39 pm

Will Obama and Clinton stand united or will one throw the other one under the bus.

Isn’t this where a normal SOS would take one for the team?

JamVet

October 10th, 2012
1:41 pm

Sewer pumper, are Finn and getalife posting here this afternoon?

I didn’t look at any of the previous posts.

But thanks for thinking of me!

Gimme Gimme Gimme

October 10th, 2012
1:43 pm

Unintended consequences, Darden restaurant’s is testing cutting employee hours because of Obamacare.

Joe The Plumber Too

October 10th, 2012
1:43 pm

jammy, you shouldn’t talk with your mouth full.

resno2

October 10th, 2012
1:45 pm

Please, please, please tell me that somehow this was ALL DUE TO THE FAILED POLICIES OF THE PREVIOUS ADMINISTRATION. I’m not sure that I can handle the truth.

JamVet

October 10th, 2012
1:46 pm

And you should go suck out some more septic tanks.

Anything to say about Mitt completely botching his response and blaming the embassy personnel themselves for “sympathizing with their attackers”? (Forget Kyle’s cover up for the time being…)

Of course not.

Now go hump elsewhere…

Gimme Gimme Gimme

October 10th, 2012
1:46 pm

Axelrod in Hilary’s left ear – “You need to resign and say the buck stops with you for the party”

Bill in Hilary’s right – “Don’t take the heat or you will never be President”

iggy

October 10th, 2012
1:49 pm

Gimme Gimme Gimme

October 10th, 2012
1:46 pm

Touche’ !!

Tee hee hee.

Li'l Aynie

October 10th, 2012
1:53 pm

Kyle’s post is utter nonsense!

First, the incident was a surprise attack launched under cover of a protest that was spreading throughout the Muslim world. The nature of the attack had to be determined by investigation after the smoke and fire subsided.

Second, the facility attacked was the US Consulate in Benghazi, not the US Embassy, which is in Tripoli. Embassies are allowed to maintain a security force within the embassy compound. Consulates must rely on the protection of the host government, and do not maintain security details.

Third, the US does not have a military presence in Libya, which is a sovereign country. The diplomatic security forces are not capable of detecting and repelling attacks from rocket-propelled weapons.

The US Ambassador to Libya was visiting the consulate in Benghazi at the time the attack took place. He was accompanied by a few people assigned to his security. There was no credible advance warning of the surprise attack in Libya. Nor was there for the surprise attack on the US homeland on 9/11. “Surprise” means without warning.

iggy

October 10th, 2012
1:56 pm

“First, the incident was a surprise attack launched under cover of a protest that was spreading throughout the Muslim world.”

Wrong and wrong on all counts.

curious

October 10th, 2012
1:59 pm

Gimme Gimme Gimme
October 10th, 2012
1:43 pm
“Unintended consequences, Darden restaurant’s is testing cutting employee hours because of Obamacare”

Isn’t this where we want to go?

Decreased costs to employers (health insurance). More profit.
Individual responsibility (don’t rely on someone else for insurance)
More jobs (even if part time). A good employee/worker will find a full time job.

Hillbilly D

October 10th, 2012
2:01 pm

When we get attacked on 9/11, is it really a surprise? It didn’t happen that day by chance.

jd

October 10th, 2012
2:03 pm

Interesting how the committee chair didn’t spend much time on the cuts the R’s made to the security budget in the state department…

Joe The Plumber Too

October 10th, 2012
2:06 pm

sorry jammy, no excaping the fact that your little boy barry looks more like a fool every day. Perhaps you should hump on over to your man crush jay and tell him how you came into a intelligent blog empty headed. He will give you a couple of obama bedtime stories and lay you down for your nap.

DawgDad

October 10th, 2012
2:08 pm

“Cause it’s only a cover-up in the right wing bubble. It needs more legs before any substantial news agency will pick up on it.”

This and the Bookman blog (and many others) reinforce the pointlessness of engaging in political conversation with leftists, especially on their turf (MSM). There is no middle ground.

Please explain Susan Rice? If you think Americans were disserved by the Colin Powell testimony on WMD, how can this Administration possibly get a pass on their incompetency, propagandizing, and outright lies related to the Benghazi raid and 9-11 protests? Ah, yes, the end justifies the means. I wonder what, specifically IS the end? Shaping up to be pretty ugly for the common citizen.

curious

October 10th, 2012
2:09 pm

Hillbilly D
October 10th, 2012
2:01 pm
“When we get attacked on 9/11, is it really a surprise? It didn’t happen that day by chance.”

I would think EVERY Government agency was on some higher level of security on 9/11. That even applies to our Consulate. If Ambassador Stevens had been worried, he would’ve restricted travel (including his) on that day.

Anyone know if his travel schedule was published or publicized or was it a case of a consulate being attacked and him being in the wrong place at the wrong time?

DawgDad

October 10th, 2012
2:13 pm

curious:

You are overthinking this. Stevens and other security professionals asked for increased security due to the heightened risk. Facts are emerging now they didn’t even have “normal” security.

Trolls Bane

October 10th, 2012
2:14 pm

Would Obama be the first person to get bad or incorrect information from his subordinates?

Trolls Bane

October 10th, 2012
2:18 pm

Does the CEO of Ford make staffing decisions for each of the Ford dealerships? Does Dan Cathy of Chick-fil-A make staffing decisions for each of his locations? If the staff of the embassy / consulate made a request to their superiors for more personel, did Obama make the decision to deny the request? Or was he even aware of it?

JamVet

October 10th, 2012
2:18 pm

excaping?

looks more like a fool every day?

I concur.

You English be bad.

GED time?

DawgDad

October 10th, 2012
2:21 pm

Trolls:

Who sent Susan Rice out? This isn’t “bad information”, it’s a propaganda campaign directed from the top.

Finn McCool (The System isn't Broken; It's Fixed)

October 10th, 2012
2:22 pm

Darden restaurant’s is testing cutting employee hours because of Obamacare.

A restaurant management company making staffing decisions based on healthcare costs instead of on consumer demand? LOL. Keep biting those lies, Cons.

MR. Restaurant Manager: “Well, it’s 7pm and it’s already been a busy evening dinner rush and we still have about 30 customers waiting in the lobby. But I have to send employees home so will need to turn away these customers. Oh well – I’m sure I’ll get a promotion for this!…?

Can you Cons think ANYTHING through?

Hillbilly D

October 10th, 2012
2:26 pm

Nordstrom also said that diplomats in Libya were told not to request an extension of a 16-member special operations military team that left in August, according to an official of the Oversight panel.

The State Department has said it never received a request to extend the military team beyond August, and added that its members were replaced with a security team that had the same skills.

One or the other of them isn’t telling the truth.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/congress/us-security-official-in-libya-says-he-had-wanted-more-security-230-incidents-prior-to-attack/2012/10/09/64a4608e-1244-11e2-9a39-1f5a7f6fe945_story.html

Del

October 10th, 2012
2:27 pm

If you’ve watched any of the hearings going on this afternoon the administration is getting blown away. I don’t see how anyone with any degree of intelligence after hearing this creditable testimony could deny the huge incompetence within the White House and State Department that led to the murder of Ambassador Stevens and his staff.

iggy

October 10th, 2012
2:28 pm

State Dept is lying.

curious

October 10th, 2012
2:29 pm

DawgDad

Not at all. If he had real concerns about security, he should have restricted travel for all personnel.

Unless there’s a memo/message directing him to proceed because he was overly concerned, he should’ve exercised his responsibility and even if there was such message he should’ve refused.

The person on the ground and not thousands of miles away should have made the call.

that’s the same attitude that got us in trouble in Vietnam with the White House selecting bombing targets instead of the operational commanders.

Gimme Gimme Gimme

October 10th, 2012
2:29 pm

Finn-

Less hours for more employee’s. It isn’t that hard for most people to figure out.

curious

October 10th, 2012
2:34 pm

DawgDad

rather than over thinking, it’s case where most everyone thinks only of how they get criticize the opposite party.

Del

October 10th, 2012
2:36 pm

Obama’s dismal showing in the recent debate along with the Benghazi lies and attempted coverup may be sufficient to flush Obama next month.

Finn McCool (The System isn't Broken; It's Fixed)

October 10th, 2012
2:36 pm

But there is more going on here that Romney showing 2012’s voters that he places pandering above principles and that he is willing to lie his way into the Oval Office. The rightwingers who lambasted Romney for being a flip-flopper extraordinaire during the GOP’s nominating contests last winter and spring are giving him a free pass. Why? Because they are giddy with overheated excitement that Romney turned around the presidential race in the first debate

alternet.org

The angel Moroni

October 10th, 2012
2:37 pm

Bush and pals ignored memos saying terrorists would hijack planes and fly them into buildings. Because of their inaction (or inability to predict the exact future), over 3000 people were killed at the World Trade Center, the Pentagon and in a field in Pennsylvania. Obama’s administration had to deal with riots at multiple Amerian facilities all over the Middle East and, sadly, 4 people died. Who handled national security better?

Joe The Plumber Too

October 10th, 2012
2:40 pm

jammy, now you making fun of my speech? RACISM!!!!!! Oops, sorry, I thought I was on jays blog listening to you, git, standsfer and granny.

Hillbilly D

October 10th, 2012
2:41 pm

curious

I read a while back, and not sure where, that there had been previous threats published giving Steven’s itinerary, etc., in previous months. One was about Steven’s going for a daily run, I believe it was. He stopped his run for a week or so but then resumed it. I don’t remember all the details and would provide you with a link, if I could remember.

Given the situation in that part of the world, that should have set off alarm bells in somebody’s head. Between that and 9/11 coming up, they should’ve been on their toes.

curious

October 10th, 2012
2:43 pm

The angel Moroni
October 10th, 2012
2:37 pm
“Bush and pals ignored memos saying terrorists would hijack planes and fly them into buildings.”

Probably not. At the time, they didn’t assess the threat as serious as it turned out.

Regretable, but that’s what happens. Looking back, I’m sure the administration knows they underestimated the danger.

I’d even bet Pres. Bush would react differently if another Katrina were headed to New Orleans.

moonbat betty

October 10th, 2012
2:44 pm

JamVet

October 10th, 2012
2:46 pm

Moroni, no worries.

When it comes to getting our people – civilians and military personnel – killed needlessly, the neocon track record is nonpareil.

Worse than even Reagan’s.

And but one of the multitude of major reasons that the toxic Bush/Cheney/Rove/Rumsfeld legacy assures another GOP loss in four weeks.

Obama sucks, but Romney and his Bush advisers?

They stink on ice…

Kyle Wingfield

October 10th, 2012
2:47 pm

The State Dept. report. The one about which State Dept. officials are testifying today on Capitol Hill.

whitec477

October 10th, 2012
2:48 pm

I don’t see how this will be an issue for the Obama State Department since the Republican-controlled U.S. House Committee for Foreign Relations has slashed the funds/requests from State that provide funds for security of U.S. embassies around the world…

Gimme Gimme Gimme

October 10th, 2012
2:48 pm

curious – “Probably not. At the time, they didn’t assess the threat as serious as it turned out. Regretable, but that’s what happens. Looking back, I’m sure the administration knows they underestimated the danger.

Yeah…you wish that when something like they could be upfront and say “we made a mistake” but politics being politics they usually just spin it.

I know I respect someone when they admit they screwed up.

Tiberius - pulling the tail of the left AND right when needed

October 10th, 2012
2:49 pm

Finn, why do you keep posting that nonsense from alternet and slate?

It’s not as if that opinion holds any weight with those of us who actually think and research before we vote.

Kyle Wingfield

October 10th, 2012
2:52 pm

Gimme Gimme @ 1:33: Ha! My dad and I actually talked about that while we were there. Whatever the answer, all I can say is that I value more than ever the variety of cuisines we have here.

DawgDad

October 10th, 2012
2:52 pm

“If he had real concerns about security, he should have restricted travel for all personnel. ”

Talk about diversion, this takes the cake. Stevens and the others are DEAD because they did NOT travel (get out of Dodge, so to speak).

At one level this is an issue about a situation where security was lax. This happens. Has there ever been an Administration that did not unwittingly get people killed? I seriously don’t think so. The REAL issue is the Administration’s response to America and the World, and now to Congress, gross lies building upon gross lies.

“Intelligence” was not and is not now the underpinning of Carney’s press statements and those of Susan Rice regarding Benghazi. Facts have proven to be very inconvenient. Ideological agenda is the foundation.

Tiberius - pulling the tail of the left AND right when needed

October 10th, 2012
2:53 pm

“I don’t see how this will be an issue for the Obama State Department since the Republican-controlled U.S. House Committee for Foreign Relations has slashed the funds/requests from State that provide funds for security of U.S. embassies around the world…”

whitec477, you need to bone up on your appropriations rules. If a budget hasn’t been passed (as it hasn’t been for over 1000 days due to the Democrat-controlled Senate) spending limits REMAIN the same. That means that any vote to “slash” funding requests have no meaning until a budget is passed.

So your lame defense is just that – lame. ALL previous funding limits are in place and can be used IF the department in question uses them, which State did not.

Nice try to deflect blame, but epic fail.

Kyle Wingfield

October 10th, 2012
2:54 pm

Li’L Aynie @ 1:53: Your “facts” are out of date.

Gimme Gimme Gimme

October 10th, 2012
2:55 pm

Tiberious-

When I looked at the other articles on alternet.org I thought I was reading “The Onion”. :)

Bruno

October 10th, 2012
3:01 pm

He is unfit to lead.

And won’t get the chance.

Better luck in 2016…

JamVet–Just in case you’re wrong, and it looks more and more like you will be every day, I’ve already got a concert picked out that you can treat me and PB to. It’s not very expensive, though the drive may be a little taxing for you. Scroll down to April 20:

http://www.songkick.com/artists/86623-boz-scaggs/calendar?page=2

And BTW, don’t forget that I put my money on Romney looooong before anyone else was even giving him a chance.

JamVet

October 10th, 2012
3:03 pm

Your “facts” are out of date.

Then refute them point by point with specific, verifiable information that countermands them, Kyle.

Is this where I write that you should share whatever you’re smoking with the rest of us?

(Real classy….)

Dusty

October 10th, 2012
3:03 pm

Poetry: R U Sure?
————————

Oh, the battle of ambiguous Benghazi

Where terrorists killed like neoNazis.

The president said, “They were so mad!

That awful movie made the protest bad.”

But alas and alack, it wasn’t that.

It was a plan with bomb and bat.

Terrorists killed the US ambassador

As Washington cut security even more

So now it seems that on Benghazi

The facts are fuzzy, not to mention “hazi”.

Questions and doubts we must endure,

But the ambassador is dead and that ’s for sure!.

.

Tiberius - pulling the tail of the left AND right when needed

October 10th, 2012
3:04 pm

“Does the CEO of Ford make staffing decisions for each of the Ford dealerships? Does Dan Cathy of Chick-fil-A make staffing decisions for each of his locations?”

So according to your theory of corporate responsibility, Bush is no longer “responsible” for the attacks on 9/1101, Trolls Banes?

At some point, will you libs EVER admit that this administration makes mistakes, and do so because they are inherently clueless about how to run anything larger than a lemonade stand?

Del

October 10th, 2012
3:05 pm

Li’l Aynie, Evidently you’ve missed the testimony this afternoon.

Tiberius - pulling the tail of the left AND right when needed

October 10th, 2012
3:07 pm

“Then refute them point by point with specific, verifiable information that countermands them, Kyle.”

Why should Kyle do that which you are incapable of doing, AmVet?

I know! Maybe Kyle can just insult everybody on the planet he disagrees with, spout some repetitive, Socialist claptrap, and call the poster a few names to tr to make his point.

Gimme Gimme Gimme

October 10th, 2012
3:10 pm

Lib’s are nervously awaiting some new talking points from the DNC.

iggy

October 10th, 2012
3:11 pm

Good News….

CO, NV move from Barely Dem to Toss Up.
PA, MI move from Likely Dem to Barely Dem.

Little by little Obama is slipping away.

JamVet

October 10th, 2012
3:12 pm

Obsessed sunspot tibby, go change your diapers and let Kyle answer for himself.

The man doesn’t need you screwing up/humping on his behalf…

curious

October 10th, 2012
3:20 pm

When are we going back to the color coded alert like after 9/11?

At the rate everybody is slamming all sides, we may find ourselves in continual lockdown.

Have the terrorists won, after all?

Kyle Wingfield

October 10th, 2012
3:20 pm

JamVet @ 3:03: I already mentioned the updated facts in the OP.

@@

October 10th, 2012
3:23 pm

My posts are misappearing.

Rafe Hollister, suffering through Oblamer's ineptocracy

October 10th, 2012
3:24 pm

Little Simon and Garfunkel for our deal leader

Slip sliding away, slip sliding away
You know the nearer your destination, the more you slip sliding away

Dusty

October 10th, 2012
3:28 pm

Bruno,

Your social calendar is very interesting. But you really should take AmVet to some heavy weight prize fights (since he tries to get one going here every day).

Boz Skaggs is too light for him. Not enough thuds, whacks.and eye punching.

getalife

October 10th, 2012
3:28 pm

After a attack, Americans unite to show patriotism and resolve.

The gop attacked our President calling him a terrorist sympathizer and they played politics with the attack.

In a sane America, this would end the gop party.

Rafe Hollister, suffering through Oblamer's ineptocracy

October 10th, 2012
3:30 pm

It seems that some would prefer to hold onto the facts as they once were, rather than deal with currently revised facts, that are unpleasant. Liberals remain willfully uninformed, when it serves their purpose.

Bruno

October 10th, 2012
3:30 pm

Little Simon and Garfunkel for our deal leader

Rafe–As a small point of musical history, “”Slip Sliding Away” was a song from Paul Simon’s solo career.

If I had to pick an S & G song to summarize Obama’s presidency, I’d have to go with this one:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ft7mUK29GY8

Bruno

October 10th, 2012
3:34 pm

Boz Skaggs is too light for him. Not enough thuds, whacks.and eye punching.

Dusty–I’m sure it wouldn’t be a big shock for you to know that many people’s blog personalities are a tad different from their “real life” personalities. Jam’s a fun guy to hang out with….

Kyle Wingfield

October 10th, 2012
3:34 pm

@@: They’re not showing up anywhere here. The problem must be on your end.

@@

October 10th, 2012
3:34 pm

Obama Needs Joe Biden—Washington Post

Gimme a minute to wrap my brain around that.
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uhmmmmmmmm
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Not much I can say about that, except

WhooaaaaHOHO

Robert

October 10th, 2012
3:34 pm

Where has the AJC been the last 4 years when the GOP declared war on the American People who elected President Obama in a landslide victory in 2008. Where was AJC during the 2010 mid-term elections when the GOP unleashed the homegrown terrorist group(s) known as the “tea party” (klansmen, skinheads, militia’s, birthers, etc.) against the American People (elderly, women, minorities, gays & lesbians, Muslims & Jews, etc.).

The American People

getalife

October 10th, 2012
3:35 pm

The behavior and patriotism from the right should be documented in a movie called “Unhinged”.

No shame, no honesty, no reality and no patriotism.

How do you sleep at night?

Bruno

October 10th, 2012
3:36 pm

In a sane America, this would end the gop party.

In a sane America, there wouldn’t be a Democrat Party in the first place. ;-)

@@

October 10th, 2012
3:37 pm

Not a problem, Kyle.

Just pointed out that Moroni doesn’t know what he/she is talking about and AmVet, as usual, is selective in his outrage.

I also suggested that he zip his pants up.

Bruno

October 10th, 2012
3:38 pm

GOP unleashed the homegrown terrorist group(s) known as the “tea party” (klansmen, skinheads, militia’s, birthers, etc.)

Robert–Drinking and blogging don’t mix. Just sayin’……..

JamVet

October 10th, 2012
3:42 pm

Biloxi???

No friggin’ way, B!

I haven’t been there since my USAF days in 1972/3.

It was a total redneck shiitehole back then. Seriously. This was before the empty “Support the Troops” slogan caught on. Nasty, nasty beaches and some of the people were just as bad.

The Klan type locals would drive around in pick up trucks and look for airmen to beat up. It happened several times while I was there. While working extra duty in the base hospital, I met a guy who had his jaw broken when he got sucker punched in town.

The base brass tried halfheartedly to catch the thugs, but there wasn’t much they could do.

Perhaps it has gotten a bit better, but F Mississippi.

Can we find something closer?

LOL!

JamVet

October 10th, 2012
3:46 pm

B, I found a good one that we can take Dusty to.

She’ll feel right at home…

http://tinyurl.com/8u3h29g

Hillbilly D

October 10th, 2012
3:46 pm

Perhaps it has gotten a bit better, but F Mississippi.

Good thing Mr. Nix ain’t here to see that.

JamVet

October 10th, 2012
3:55 pm

HD, ain’t that the truth!

It’s all good, he rags on my birth state too!

BTW, I think that you should come to the big city and join Bruno and I for a concert soon…

Dusty

October 10th, 2012
3:58 pm

Bruno

Nope, it is no surprise that blog personalitites are not always the same as the “real person”.

I have even read and seen “Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde”!!!!!!.

Doesn’t really matter though. I think of this place as an exchange for political viewpoints and little else.. That iis what makes it interesting. .

Hillbilly D

October 10th, 2012
4:02 pm

it is no surprise that blog personalitites are not always the same as the “real person”.

There are exceptions to that. I’m pretty much the same here as the real world. I just don’t have the energy to create another personality. I do let a few things pass here that I wouldn’t face to face, though.

Dusty

October 10th, 2012
4:13 pm

OH good, Hillbilly. I don’t want you to change. Stay just like you are!!

Rafe Hollister, suffering through Oblamer's ineptocracy

October 10th, 2012
4:21 pm

Bruno, thanks for the correction. I got the lyrics from a S&G webpage, but you are right, no Garfunkel.

I liked the song you posted, but at the time, the subject was Obama slipping in the polls.

Rafe Hollister, suffering through Oblamer's ineptocracy

October 10th, 2012
4:23 pm

I think of this place as an exchange for political viewpoints and little else..

But, I come here for your poetry, Dusty! I would add one of those smiley things if it wasn’t too much trouble.

md

October 10th, 2012
4:38 pm

” Where was AJC during the 2010 mid-term elections when the GOP unleashed the homegrown terrorist group(s) known as the “tea party” (klansmen, skinheads, militia’s, birthers, etc.) against the American People (elderly, women, minorities, gays & lesbians, Muslims & Jews, etc.). ”

You are aware that the “American people” participated in that 2010 election…..right? Tells me they wanted a sane path on spending………..

Bruno

October 10th, 2012
4:43 pm

Jam: The Klan type locals would drive around in pick up trucks and look for airmen to beat up.

HD: Good thing Mr. Nix ain’t here to see that.

HD–Are you sure those Klansmen weren’t relatives of joseph?? ;-)

BTW, I think that you should come to the big city and join Bruno and I for a concert soon…

HD–Consider that a standing invitation. Maybe we could get the whole blog band back together.

4theusa

October 10th, 2012
5:12 pm

It is so tiresome to hear news these days that is never about the actual facts. Everything has to have happened because of ( insert anti-partisan blame lie here ).

JDW

October 10th, 2012
5:19 pm

@Kyle…rather than spending a whole bunch of time on this just let me say.

:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:

Followed by shame on you…

From Jay’s bit that sums it up quite nicely…

“So on what basis do Republicans believe that the attack on our Benghazi consulate in Libya, or the confused and confusing series of incorrect explanations that followed, constitute some major political scandal when the infinitely more serious attacks on New York City and Washington did not? And if a scandal does exist, why don’t Republicans share in the blame for having insisted on hundreds of millions of dollars in cuts to embassy-security programs in the last two fiscal years?”

md

October 10th, 2012
7:10 pm

“So on what basis do Republicans believe that the attack on our Benghazi consulate in Libya, or the confused and confusing series of incorrect explanations that followed, constitute some major political scandal when the infinitely more serious attacks on New York City and Washington did not”

Maybe because the President himself made a big deal out of “shoot first, aim second”……one reaps what one sows……

Lil' Barry Bailout - Vote American

October 10th, 2012
8:23 pm

Cheesy Grits, there is no need to see President Romney’s birth certificate, as there is no credible reason to doubt his citizenship or his status as a Real American.

The difference between being a mere citizen and being a Real American is the difference between Obozo and President Romney.

Vote American.

Lil' Barry Bailout - Vote American

October 10th, 2012
8:25 pm

Well, md, for one, Our President Bush didn’t lie about the 9/11 attacks. Obozo lied about Benghazi.

Americans expect the truth from their presidents.

JDW

October 10th, 2012
8:32 pm

@LBB…”Americans expect the truth from their presidents.”

Except in the case of WMD’s and torture right LBB

:roll:

Lil' Barry Bailout - Vote American

October 10th, 2012
9:54 pm

Our President Bush didn’t lie about WMD’s or torture.

You need to familiarize yourself with the meaning of the word.

Obozo knew there was no protest when he blamed the attack on a home movie.

Obozo lied.

Doug B

October 11th, 2012
8:45 am

Kyle, you’re going to have to explain to me what exactly the Obama administration gained by ” telling a falsehood” for me to believe that’s what they were doing. I tend to think that they are finding out more as they go and so the story is becoming more clear. I don’t see how the administration would gain from this “falsehood” so I don’t believe it is one. If you have some other angle to the “falsehood” please explain. Otherwise, you are just politicizing the situation.

Major Hutch

October 11th, 2012
10:34 am

As a Marine Officer who has participated in Embassy security missions, I can say with certainty the Obama administration was derelict in its duty to protect our Ambassador in Libya. Marine Corps Anti-Terrorism teams are able to deploy in hours to support U.S. Embassies. State Department and the Administration only had to request them. Additionally, the lies by the President and the attempt to cover this scandal up is far worse than Watergate. Four Americans died.

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