2012 Tuesday: When Barry met Big Bird
Barack Obama leapt to Big Bird’s defense. Big Bird said, no thanks.
If the first debate between Obama and Mitt Romney winds up being a turning point in the election, the episode involving American children’s tallest, yellowest feathered-est friend may prove to be a symbol of what went wrong for the incumbent.
During the Oct. 3 debate, moderator Jim Lehrer of PBS NewsHour asked the candidates for specifics about how they’d tackle the federal debt and deficit. Romney reiterated the test he said he’d use to decide which spending to cut: “Is the program so critical it’s worth borrowing money from China to pay for it?” For examples, he named Obamacare and then said:
I’m sorry, Jim. I’m going to stop the subsidy to PBS. I’m going to stop other things. I like PBS. I love Big Bird. I actually like you too. But I’m not going to — I’m not going to keep on spending money on things to borrow money from China to pay for it.
Obama did not address this remark during the debate, but within days his campaign released a short video ad mocking Romney’s position on PBS by comparing Big Bird to Bernie Madoff and saying, “Mitt Romney knows it’s not Wall Street you have to worry about, it’s Sesame Street.”
Never mind that Romney, during the same debate, said the banking industry needs regulation and accurately described the Dodd-Frank financial “reform” bill as the cementing of Too Big To Fail in federal law and thus an enormous sop to the biggest banks. Never mind that Obama’s response to the same question about debt and deficits included a mention of “18 government programs for education” that he’d cut (cutting education funds? but it’s for teh kidz!). Or that Sesame Street is such a merchandising powerhouse that it easily could survive on its own (take it from a dad whose kids have Elmo on their pajamas and Cookie Monster on their diapers, in addition to probably a dozen or more toys, stuffed animals and books with the furry characters on them).
Never mind all that. The Obama campaign decided to make an issue, albeit a fairly minor one, out of saving Big Bird.
Which probably wouldn’t have been a big deal if the Sesame Street Workshop hadn’t issued this response:
Sesame Workshop is a nonpartisan, nonprofit organization and we do not endorse candidates or participate in political campaigns. We have approved no campaign ads, and as is our general practice, have requested that the ad be taken down.
As the kids on Twitter would say: Obama campaign #FAIL.
Now, normally anything that keeps the Obama campaign from having to talk about the economy can be seen as a good thing for the incumbent. But getting rejected by Big Bird?
Mockery of mockery aside, this strikes me as a pretty apt summary of why the 70 million people who watched last week’s debate overwhelmingly thought Romney came out as the winner. Here was Romney, on a night when Obama attacked him for not being specific about his plans, making a specific statement about a spending cut he’d make — and one not likely to be popular with his intended audience that night, which very clearly was the small but critical group of undecided moderates in the electorate.
The Obama campaign’s response? Ham-fisted pandering that drew a rebuke from the very cause meant to be championed.
The talk throughout this general-election campaign about likeability has been overplayed because it misses the point. If the electorate wanted the most likeable guy available in the White House, Obama would have been running circles around Romney instead of never, for even a single day, leading the Real Clear Politics average of polls by even 6 percentage points (never by even 5 points since Romney effectively clinched the GOP nomination).
The voters aren’t looking for the guy they’d most like to attend a beer summit with. They’re looking for the guy who can run the country more effectively. Muppet panders, from a candidate who has presided over four consecutive $1,000,000,000,000-plus deficits and the surpassing of the $16,000,000,000,000 mark in federal debt, are not likely to resonate with them.
The race is not over by a long shot, but Obama suddenly has to do more than tread water if he’s going to win.
– By Kyle Wingfield
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bloomberg troll
October 9th, 2012
1:11 pm
The obama campaign is impossible to take seriously. No serious discussion of the facts, no detailed or even high level solutions to our economic problems.
They also got rebuked from abusing Andrea Mitchell video in an ad.
The Obama Bubble is bursting.
Hillbilly D
October 9th, 2012
1:12 pm
Big Bird has spoken, evidently.
bloomberg troll
October 9th, 2012
1:15 pm
As POLITICO reported Saturday, NBC News sent a letter to Obama campaign manager Jim Messina last week asking the campaign to stop using network footage in a new 30-second spot, released shortly after Wednesday’s debate, in which Andrea Mitchell is shown on air citing an independent analysis that Mitt Romney’s tax plan would cost $4.8 trillion over 10 years.
Mitchell addressed that complaint on her MSNBC program today, but added that the Obama campaign omitted portions of the clip in which she “pointed out exaggerations and/or misstatements” made by President Barack Obama.
“Some viewers might be understandably confused by the fact that the Obama campaign is airing a commercial right now including a video clip of me fact-checking Gov. Romney after last week’s debate,” Mitchell said. “You should know that NBC News has not granted either campaign permission to use our news material and immediately requested that the campaign refrain from using NBC News material in this and future advertisements.”
http://www.politico.com/blogs/media/2012/10/mitchell-shames-obama-camp-over-footage-137799.html
bloomberg troll
October 9th, 2012
1:17 pm
“You should know that NBC News has not granted either campaign permission to use our news material and immediately requested that the campaign refrain from using NBC News material in this and future advertisements.”
We know Obama plays fast and loose with the law (or ignores it all together).
And here is another example. Intellectual Property rights get abused by China, but you wouldn’t expect the US President to do it…..
iggy
October 9th, 2012
1:23 pm
Im surprised Oblunder doesnt force Big Bird to wear a burqua.
Class of '98
October 9th, 2012
1:27 pm
Even as a die-hard conservative, I see no problem with PBS subsidies. It’s a drop in the ocean of debt.
I can’t wait for the VP debate tomorrow or the second presidential debate. I expect things to only get better for the Republican ticket.
Towncrier
October 9th, 2012
1:27 pm
“The Obama campaign decided to make an issue, albeit a fairly minor one, out of saving Big Bird.”
I am still amazed at this colossal miscalculation. I almost suspect this might hurt Obama more than even his tepid debate performance. At a time when he REALLY needs to appear presidential, he is talking about Big Bird rather than how to deal with the EXTREMELY serious issue of us being 16T in debt when the ME may be collapsing and Europe is in very dangerous economic straits.
john
October 9th, 2012
1:34 pm
This is one of the worst angles I have ever seen a writer take? Obviously, Sesamee Street does not want to piss off either side because children of both democrats and republicans watch their show. Moreover, brands like Sesame Street do not want their names to be associated with politics in general. It’s standard practice. You know as well as I Kyle, that companies and brands intentionally stay nuetral when it comes to politics. Your attempt to say Big bird has rejected Obama, just shows how much you are reaching to find a way to bash Obama.
Towncrier
October 9th, 2012
1:37 pm
“Your attempt to say Big bird has rejected Obama, just shows how much you are reaching to find a way to bash Obama.”
You are missing Kyle’s real point – which even liberals in the media understand:
http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Journalism/2012/10/09/media-Backlash-Against-Big-Bird-Ad
Rafe Hollister, suffering through Oblamer's ineptocracy
October 9th, 2012
1:37 pm
Class of 98
The ocean is composed of drops. Enough drops and you have a sizable proposal. The Libs always use this excuse to do nothing. Why stop foreign aid to countries that are working to oppose us, it is just a small insignificant portion of the budget. Why not do away with the inefficient Dept of Energy, why bother it is just a very small agency with a minimum budget.
If it is not an essential function of government it should be on the chopping block when you have a 16.2 T debt. If PBS needs to run one more telethon per year to survive, let them do it, put my $1.35 toward paying off the debt.
Rafe Hollister, suffering through Oblamer's ineptocracy
October 9th, 2012
1:39 pm
sizable puddle rather than proposal.
Gravy Train
October 9th, 2012
1:46 pm
Big Bird and Sesame Street may be fine financially. However, they choose to broadcast their show on Public Broadcasting Service. PBS is who gets the funds, not Big Bird. Kyle is doing his best, albeit weak, attempt to be the party lap dog. Keep your nose to the rear, uh, I meant grindstone, Kyle.
Finn McCool (The System isn't Broken; It's Fixed)
October 9th, 2012
1:49 pm
The ocean is composed of drops.
Republicans can only concern themselves with the drops cause they don’t have the stones to address the tidal waves.
The entire Republican platform is about gutting social security but, ya know, most Americans really like that program.
Show us what you got Cons.
Had Romney had the stuff to confront one of the major issues, Obama camp wouldn’t have any qualms about creating ads about that. instead, we get PBS which costs $1.35 per person. If the Cons can’t get serious, why should Obama not rag on that?
Linda
October 9th, 2012
1:52 pm
Looks like some feathers were ruffled & a Big Bird was shot toward Washington.
Yellow Bird versus White House.
Sesame Workshop echoed the AARP.
Junior Samples
October 9th, 2012
1:55 pm
Ok, we stop subsidizing PBS since they’re a merchandising powerhouse. How about ending the oil subsidies as well?
As it’s been mentioned several times before, Government shouldn’t be in the business of picking winners and losers. As people criticize the Solyndra investment, let’s level the playing field. No subsidies to oil and let the market decide. That should help reduce the deficit much faster than cutting off Public Television.
Right?
Linda
October 9th, 2012
1:56 pm
Ambassador Stevens begged the Obama Adm. for more security. Maybe he should have claimed that Big Bird was at the embassy in Benghazi.
JDW
October 9th, 2012
1:56 pm
Welcome back Kyle…I see from this one you are a bit jet lagged.
The real point is that Romney is trying to solve large problems with small thinking, reserving his “big guns for big tax cuts”. As I said earlier he did a great job making a bad story sound palatable…of course he had to lie to do it.
For example…”Never mind that Romney, during the same debate, said the banking industry needs regulation and accurately described the Dodd-Frank financial “reform” bill as the cementing of Too Big To Fail in federal law and thus an enormous sop to the biggest banks. ”
First off that is a huge flip or is it a flop from his heretofore position, but since he mentions Dodd Frank… not so much as CNN points out
“The argument that some people make is that designating the biggest banks as “systemically important financial institutions,” as Dodd-Frank requires, makes it much cheaper for them to borrow, since no one thinks the government will allow them to fail. The result is higher profits and a big advantage that will allow the mega banks to run everyone else out of town. But it doesn’t appear to be turning out that way.”
http://finance.fortune.cnn.com/2012/10/04/obama-romney-debate-dodd-frank/
And as you well know this is flat out false…”from a candidate who has presided over four consecutive $1,000,000,000,000-plus deficits” The first and the one that set the bar came courtesy of the Republicans and Duhbya…Obama has reduced the run rate which is a far cry from having caused it.
Towncrier
October 9th, 2012
1:58 pm
“The real point is that Romney is trying to solve large problems with small thinking, reserving his “big guns for big tax cuts”. As I said earlier he did a great job making a bad story sound palatable…of course he had to lie to do it.”
I would say that the “real point” is that Romney actually has considerable experience at operating in the black. Obama still, to this day, has none (except perhaps in his own finances).
Finn McCool (The System isn't Broken; It's Fixed)
October 9th, 2012
1:59 pm
but Obama suddenly has to do more than tread water if he’s going to win.
Very telling statement, isn’t it?
Gravy Train
October 9th, 2012
2:00 pm
I wonder if certain senior citizens know that there are programs and services available to them to address a whole litany of issues ranging from alcoholism to paranoid delusions or xenophobia. I wonder if dementia limits the effectiveness of treatment. Do they even realize that the puppet shows they watch exacerbate their mental deterioration?
Finn McCool (The System isn't Broken; It's Fixed)
October 9th, 2012
2:02 pm
Do you Cons even know what percentage of our debt is owned by China? It’s like $.08 cents of every dollar. While China is the largest nation state owning us, it’s by far the biggest owner.
About 32 cents for every dollar of U.S. debt, or $4.6 trillion, is owned by the federal government in trust funds, for Social Security and other programs such as retirement accounts, according to the U.S. Department of Treasury.
The largest portion of U.S. debt, 68 cents for every dollar or about $10 trillion, is owned by individual investors, corporations, state and local governments and, yes, even foreign governments such as China that hold Treasury bills, notes and bonds.
http://usgovinfo.about.com/od/moneymatters/ss/How-Much-US-Debt-Does-China-Own.htm
Junior Samples
October 9th, 2012
2:02 pm
To elaborate on Gravy Train’s statement, it’s the local affiliate’s that get the funding.
iggy
October 9th, 2012
2:03 pm
The outcome has yet to be determined but I must say this latest OBlunder thrashing certainly brings a smile to my face and its good to laugh.
Finn McCool (The System isn't Broken; It's Fixed)
October 9th, 2012
2:04 pm
Romney actually has considerable experience at operating in the black.
Racist!…just kidding!
Honestly, we’re not in the black. We’re in the red.
JDW
October 9th, 2012
2:05 pm
@Towncrier…”I would say that the “real point” is that Romney actually has considerable experience at operating in the black”
As skills that make good presidents go that one is….shall we say lacking.
The list of successful businessmen that have been president consists of Warren G. Harding (an Ohio newspaper publisher and editor) and Herbert Hoover (a multi-millionaire mining engineer, investor, and consultant). Some want to add Carter but I think he was more of a “Gentleman Farmer”
Not real impressive company anyway you cut it.
http://www.vanityfair.com/politics/2012/09/mitt-romney-business-credentials-problem
iggy
October 9th, 2012
2:05 pm
And Obamas Green initiatives have pushed us further into the red.
iggy
October 9th, 2012
2:08 pm
Obama is an Economic Weapon of Mass Destruction.
Linda
October 9th, 2012
2:09 pm
The govt. does not always pick winners & losers. Obama picks losers.
Romney’s America:
AMC Entertainment – Success
Burger King – Success
Burlington Coat Factory – Success
Clear Channel Communications – Success
Dominos Pizza – Success
Dunkin Donuts – Success
Guitar Center – Success
The Sports Authority – Success
Staples – Success
Toys “R” Us – Success
Warner Music Group – Success
Romney invested private dollars in all of these companies.
Obama’s America:
Solyndra – BANKRUPT
Ener 1 – BANKRUPT
Beacon Power – BANKRUPT
Abound Solar – BANKRUPT
Amonix Solar – BANKRUPT
Spectra Watt – BANKRUPT
Eastern Energy – BANKRUPT
Fisker Automotive – BANKRUPT
Tesla Morors – BANKRUPT
Obama has invested 35 BILLION of our hard earned tax dollars in these failed companies
Del
October 9th, 2012
2:09 pm
So, Big Bird is giving the Obama campaign the “bird”. This pathetic desperation we’re seeing since the debates and Romney’s rise in the polls would be laughable if it wasn’t so seriously important that this incompetent can’t be allowed another four years.
Kyle Wingfield
October 9th, 2012
2:09 pm
Junior: And if those locals (and national PBS for that matter) are producing other programming as well-received as Sesame Street, then, like Sesame Street, they ought to be able to survive just fine, too.
carlosgvv
October 9th, 2012
2:10 pm
“mockery of mockery”
And yet, Mitt Romney, who has zigged and zagged and done countless 180’s, making a complete mockery of what honest politics should be, enjoys your complete support.
Kyle Wingfield
October 9th, 2012
2:10 pm
The “they” in “they ought to be able…” is a rather poorly phrased reference to “other programming.” Sorry. I’ll blame jet lag.
Finn McCool (The System isn't Broken; It's Fixed)
October 9th, 2012
2:10 pm
”I would say that the “real point” is that Romney actually has considerable experience at operating in the black”
So we need a guy who runs the show really well when everything is fine and dandy? Sorry, but that isn’t our current state. I would much rather have a guy who can run things when the chips are down.
Economy is improving, unemployment is still going down, companies are showing profits…..sounds like we got our guy in the WH already.
Tiberius - pulling the tail of the left AND right when needed
October 9th, 2012
2:11 pm
The first thing I thought about this morning when the ad was played on MSNBC’s ‘Way Too Early’ was, “I’ll bet Sesame Street doesn’t like being used in this way”.
Right again.
It’s a curse, but I live with it.
Tiberius - pulling the tail of the left AND right when needed
October 9th, 2012
2:12 pm
“The entire Republican platform is about gutting social security but, ya know, most Americans really like that program.”
Hyperbole and inaccuracy much, Finn?
Road Scholar
October 9th, 2012
2:13 pm
So you cons, esp those who scream “term limits” will have no problem with eliminating funding for retirement for Congress, healthcare for Congress, their health club, etc? Is that really necessary? Oil subsidies.. I mean let the free market roll? Agricultural subsidies?
Finn McCool (The System isn't Broken; It's Fixed)
October 9th, 2012
2:14 pm
Sesame Street does well. But what about the Ken Burns stuff? Who is going to support stuff like that? How about American Experience?
The Civil War Ken Burns series didn’t sell a lot of merchandise but I think we are a better place for having it than not having it and saving my $1.35.
Tiberius - pulling the tail of the left AND right when needed
October 9th, 2012
2:16 pm
“No subsidies to oil and let the market decide.”
In case you missed it, Junior Samples (what am I saying? You miss lots of cogent points) Romney covered this every well during the debate.
Tiberius - pulling the tail of the left AND right when needed
October 9th, 2012
2:19 pm
“But what about the Ken Burns stuff? Who is going to support stuff like that? How about American Experience?”
And just what part of the U.S. Constitution does it say that government has a responsibility to subsidize filmmakers, Finn? Why can’t Ken Burns ply his trade without my money?
Towncrier
October 9th, 2012
2:19 pm
“As skills that make good presidents go that one is….shall we say lacking. ”
I guess what I was saying is that I believe Romney at least comprehends the seriousness of being 16T in debt, whereas I am totally unconvinced that Obama does (if his campaigns decision to focus on Big Bird a month out from the election and after being trounced in his first debate is any indication).
Charles
October 9th, 2012
2:19 pm
Cookie Monster on their diapers? Ewwwwwww.
Tiberius - pulling the tail of the left AND right when needed
October 9th, 2012
2:21 pm
“So we need a guy who runs the show really well when everything is fine and dandy? Sorry, but that isn’t our current state. I would much rather have a guy who can run things when the chips are down.”
Please look up: Winter Olympics, Salt Lake City for your answer, Finn.
Thanks for playing and failing.
MarkV
October 9th, 2012
2:21 pm
Kyle has invented a rebuke, where there was none. Sesame Street Workshop merely stated its non-partisan position. If Romney can use Sesame Street in a political argument, so can Obama.
@@
October 9th, 2012
2:24 pm
What do you expect?
Obama’s still in knee-pants. It’s all a game to him.
AARP+Big Bird=2 rejections.
Obama makes way too many assumptions.
Towncrier
October 9th, 2012
2:24 pm
“And just what part of the U.S. Constitution does it say that government has a responsibility to subsidize filmmakers, Finn?”
Well, you see Tiberius, the Constitution is a “living document” that needs to be re-written by liberal SCOTUS justices rather than modified (as originally provided) by the Congress and States.
Finn McCool (The System isn't Broken; It's Fixed)
October 9th, 2012
2:25 pm
running the Olympics (the Winter Olympics at that!…and int he middle of nowhere!) is just like running a country?
#Fail, or, in Tiberius’ case, par for the course.
@@
October 9th, 2012
2:26 pm
Add to that Obama makes way too many assumptions
Too many liberties too.
I Report (-: You Whine )-: mmm, mmmm, mmmmm! Just sayin...
October 9th, 2012
2:26 pm
obozo should be watching Sesame Street, maybe a few weeks of Big Bird training would wean him off the Prompter.
F. Sinkwich
October 9th, 2012
2:27 pm
“But what about the Ken Burns stuff? Who is going to support stuff like that? How about American Experience?”
Uh, History Channel? National Geographic Channel? Discover Channel? Biography Channel? Disney Channel?
Yep, without PBS subsidies, it all goes dark.
iggy
October 9th, 2012
2:27 pm
” I would much rather have a guy who can run things when the chips are down.”
Agreed and Oblunder just isnt the guy.
Linda
October 9th, 2012
2:30 pm
The Romney campaign is running out of signs across the country. Supporters are placing empty chairs in their front yards. I placed an old worn out empty suit in the chair with an old bent, beat up, rusty golf club right next to it. The straw man is close by. I’m still slicing & dicing the pumpkin head.
Happy Halloween!
iggy
October 9th, 2012
2:30 pm
What about the Obama channel? Oh, my mistake, we already have those, CNN, PMSNBC, NBC, CBS, ABC. Wonder how much under the table subsidies Obama funnels to them?
Tiberius - pulling the tail of the left AND right when needed
October 9th, 2012
2:31 pm
“Kyle has invented a rebuke, where there was none.”
Yeah, ’cause, “We have approved no campaign ads, and as is our general practice, have requested that the ad be taken down.” isn’t a rebuke at all, now is it, MarkV?
Geez!
F. Sinkwich
October 9th, 2012
2:32 pm
“Mitt Romney on Tuesday slammed President Obama for talking about Big Bird on the campaign trail. “These are tough times, with real serious issues. So you have to scratch your head when the president spends the last week talking about Big Bird,” Romney said at a campaign event in Iowa. “I actually think we have to have a president who talks about saving the American people.”"
Go get ‘em, Mitt.
iggy
October 9th, 2012
2:32 pm
If Obama-beer were being sold, upon opening the can or bottle, one would find nothing but hot air.
JDW
October 9th, 2012
2:33 pm
@Linda…”Obama has invested 35 BILLION of our hard earned tax dollars in these failed companies”
FLAT OUT LIE…
Read, learn…psst…everything you see on the internet from a right wing hack isn’t true.
http://factcheck.org/2012/10/romneys-clean-energy-whoppers/
Linda
October 9th, 2012
2:35 pm
Gimme 4 more years & let’s just see what happens! Keep hoping for change!
I take VISA, MasterCharge & EBT cards!
MANGLER
October 9th, 2012
2:36 pm
OK, for the first time, someone has asked the Dem in this race to please stop using their likeness – and you score that as some sort of victory?
How many song writers, companies, or agencies have threatened to sue a GOP member to stop using their likeness or product to endorse their ads this campaign season? 4 years ago as well?
Sesame Street gave its reason for the request as being that they are a neutral entity. When bands and products demand to be removed from the Reps ads, they flat out say it’s because they don’t want to be seen on that side of the aisle. If Big Bird was holding a Romney sign, then you may … MAY have a point here.
Gravy Train
October 9th, 2012
2:37 pm
Looks like Kyle and Willard are gonna have to shake the old etch-a-sketch again!
http://news.yahoo.com/popularity-high-romney-ditto-obama-110519458–abc-news-politics.html
Willard is riding a temporary surge until the next debate. Obama is still steady.
Tiberius - pulling the tail of the left AND right when needed
October 9th, 2012
2:37 pm
Nice moving of the goal posts, Finn. According your your last statement, we could only hire people for President who have actually run a country before.
Kinda limits the prospective nominees and violates the Constitution as well, but when have facts ever stopped you from posting?
Epic, epic, fail, son.
JDW
October 9th, 2012
2:38 pm
@Towncrier…”if his campaigns decision to focus on Big Bird a month out from the election and after being trounced in his first debate is any indication”
Yet who was it that held Big Bird up as part of of the solution…
So Obama should just let such drivel stand unchallenged
iggy
October 9th, 2012
2:43 pm
Barry sings nightly to Michelle his rendition of that old Boston song, A Man I’ll never be, and soon he will be singing that same song to the US citizenry.
Kyle Wingfield
October 9th, 2012
2:43 pm
JDW: Strange, you are much more interested in these fact checkers’ conclusions when they aren’t criticizing the $5 trillion tax-cut figure that you and Obama keep repeating.
@@
October 9th, 2012
2:44 pm
I disagree with Romney’s love for Big Bird. Never cared for Big Bird.
Obama reminds me of Elmo.
Sesame Street staff writer Nancy Sans once described Elmo’s origins: “There was this extra red puppet lying around and the cast would pick him up sometimes and try to create a character, but nothing seemed to materialize.”
schnirt
Finn McCool (The System isn't Broken; It's Fixed)
October 9th, 2012
2:45 pm
Now this is a rebuke:
the Atlantic reports the Republican governor of New Jersey is a Springsteen devotee who has attended 129 shows, some with state troopers in tow…The iconic singer…doesn’t want to hang as just two Jersey guys: out on the streets of Atlantic City or Asbury Park. Or anywhere at all. In fact, though they briefly met once or twice, Springsteen won’t even talk to his 49-year-old fan, Jeffrey Goldberg writes in the magazine. Silence can say it all. Here it says loud and clear that Christie is a force for a broken dreams and shattered lives in their shared state.
http://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2012/07/jersey-boys/309019/
Oh, to see the look in Christy’s eyes as his hero tells him to get out of his dressing room……
Gimme Gimme Gimme
October 9th, 2012
2:45 pm
“Economy is improving, unemployment is still going down, companies are showing profits…..sounds like we got our guy in the WH already”
Economy is improving, unemployment is still going down, companies are showing profits…..sounds like we need to give thanks to Bernanke.
Fixed
Tiberius - pulling the tail of the left AND right when needed
October 9th, 2012
2:46 pm
“Yet who was it that held Big Bird up as part of of the solution”
Uh, JDW? Romney used PBS as his example. Big Bird just happens to reside in that universe.
iggy
October 9th, 2012
2:48 pm
“the Atlantic reports the Republican governor of New Jersey is a Springsteen devotee”
Springsteen and his under-bite have been over-rated/over-hyped since 1977 and have done much of nothing since “Born to Run.” Too bad that wasnt his last album
Finn McCool (The System isn't Broken; It's Fixed)
October 9th, 2012
2:49 pm
Nice moving of the goal posts, Finn.
Winter Olympics, LOL! In the middle of nowhere.
mwuahahahahahahahaha
Mitt is the Uber leader! Just don’t ask him for specifics….
Joe the Prophet
October 9th, 2012
2:49 pm
I’m not going to release my taxes, because they would put me in prison….and I’m not going to tell you what I would do with your taxes….BUT YOU CAN TRUST ME….I’M A CULTIST…!!!!
Linda
October 9th, 2012
2:51 pm
If Sesame thought Obama could win, they would not have said a word. They are merely hedging their future.
Towncrier
October 9th, 2012
2:52 pm
“So Obama should just let such drivel stand unchallenged.”
It was a serious political miscalculation. It’s like criticizing a person for not cutting their lawn when the neighborhood is on fire.
Joe the Prophet
October 9th, 2012
2:53 pm
I’ve never actually met anyone on Medicare…and I’ve never actually met anyone on Social Security…and I’ve never actually met anyone on Title IX or Title X…and when people aren’t looking, I don’t care about these people…They are dependent on government….but hey…YOU CAN TRUST ME, I’M A CULTIST…!!!!!
iggy
October 9th, 2012
2:53 pm
If Obama loses then Bruce StinkSteam will probably crawl in Clarence Clemons grave and commit Hari Kari. Now there is a WIN we could all apprecieate.
iggy
October 9th, 2012
2:54 pm
“It was a serious political miscalculation. It’s like criticizing a person for not cutting their lawn when the neighborhood is on fire.”
Its also like the Obama/Biden team rearranging the deck chairs as the Titanic keeps sinking.
joe
October 9th, 2012
2:55 pm
instead of focusing on fantasy (big bird) obama should be focusing on things like Iran and radical islam. his candidacy is becoming a joke, just like his presidency.
Reasonable man
October 9th, 2012
2:55 pm
GOP complains about the deficit as if they don’t know what caused it – 1) undertaking wars in two countries 2) cutting taxes, while funding said wars, 3) stimulus to try to slow the train wreck that was our economy after 2 Bush terms. Yeah, we have a deficit and Willard wants to fix it with MORE TAX cuts and MORE WARS. It’s the GOP’s answer to any problem. Cut taxes, invade somebody. Oh, and take away a woman’s right to choose – almost forgot that one.
CFO
October 9th, 2012
2:57 pm
Willard makes money for his investors and he’ll make money for the Koch brothers, et al. The actual underlying businesses have a pretty mixed track record, but who cares, as long as the people at the top make money and Willard gets his cut.
Finn McCool (The System isn't Broken; It's Fixed)
October 9th, 2012
2:57 pm
If Sesame thought Obama could win, they would not have said a word. They are merely hedging their future.
No, PBS is run by humans who want to keep their jobs and the only reason they have jobs is because they are the only truly fair and balanced news source.
Tiberius - pulling the tail of the left AND right when needed
October 9th, 2012
3:00 pm
“The iconic singer…doesn’t want to hang as just two Jersey guys: out on the streets of Atlantic City or Asbury Park.”
And unlike liberals who fawn over singers and movie stars as if they actually matter, rather than just entertain, I don’t think Christie is losing any sleep over this.
@@
October 9th, 2012
3:03 pm
It’s not the first time Democrats have played on Sesame Street.
There was the petition asking PBS to arrange for Bert and Ernie’s marriage.
REJECTED!
Tiberius - pulling the tail of the left AND right when needed
October 9th, 2012
3:05 pm
“GOP complains about the deficit as if they don’t know what caused it”
Actually, they DO know what caused it. They’ve already proven they can learn from their misakes. Obama and liberals? Not so much.
“Yeah, we have a deficit and Willard wants to fix it with MORE TAX cuts and MORE WARS.”
Really? Cite please. Tell us which wars Romney has already declared in his campaign positions. Then tell us which tax cuts aren’t being paid for by cuts in spending and/or eliminations of deductions.
@@
October 9th, 2012
3:05 pm
Guess who
RE-JECTED!
I Report (-: You Whine )-: mmm, mmmm, mmmmm! Just sayin...
October 9th, 2012
3:05 pm
After the massive deluge of information burst forth from the Mittster and swamped the clueless and bewildered obozo, does anyone else find it rather comical that the one thing the dummycrats choose to get specific about is a children’s puppet show?
They were probably switching between the debate and Sesame St and they were like yo, what does that mean, cut funding?
Reasonable man
October 9th, 2012
3:05 pm
Tiber – I guess the GOPers didn’t fawn all over Clint, Arnold, Reagan, Willis and all the other washed up celebs who support their side. The main difference between the parties on the subject of celeb worship is that those on the D side are much cooler. Now, go hang out with Hank Williams Jr.
rwcole
October 9th, 2012
3:08 pm
If the number isn’t $5 Trillion, then what is the number, Kyle? Romney wants to cut the tax rate by 20% and not increase the deficit. What is the number that fills that blank. You and Romney are saying that figure is wrong so, pretty please, with sugar on top, what is the correct $ figure to insert here?? And how do you pay for it w/out increasing the deficit. Mortgage interest deduction is my guess but Republicans won’t just say it out loud.
iggy
October 9th, 2012
3:09 pm
” that those on the D side are much cooler”
Thats all fine and well and cool, however, Im more interested in having a President who is intelligent and uncool than a President who can play a saxophone or break dance and who want to make “govt cool again.”
When was govt ever cool?
JDW
October 9th, 2012
3:10 pm
@Tiberius…”Actually, they DO know what caused it. They’ve already proven they can learn from their misakes. ”
And thats why they are leading with a $5 trillion dollar tax cut and empty promises to reduce spending…o’ wait…THAT IS WHAT THEY DID BEFORE….NO WAY
Tiberius - pulling the tail of the left AND right when needed
October 9th, 2012
3:10 pm
“reasonable man”, you DO realize that Reagan was a successful governor of California don’t you?
Of course you didn’t!
Tiberius - pulling the tail of the left AND right when needed
October 9th, 2012
3:12 pm
rwcole, did you even bother to watch the debate?
Find it online and come back here once you’ve LISTENED to it in it’s entirety.
JDW
October 9th, 2012
3:12 pm
@Tibeius…”Uh, JDW? Romney used PBS as his example.”
and I quote…”I like PBS. I love Big Bird. I actually like you too. But I’m not going to — I’m not going to keep on spending money on things to borrow money from China to pay for it”
Please note the words “Big Bird”…psssssttt…I didn’t have to go far…check Kyle’s piece.
Linda
October 9th, 2012
3:12 pm
Let’s see if Romney will release more of his tax returns if Obama will release his:
Passport records, Obama kindergarten records, Punahou School records, Occidental College records, Columbia University records, Columbia thesis, Harvard Law School records, Harvard Law Review articles, University of Chicago scholarly articles, Illinois State Bar Association records, Illinois State Senate records/schedules(said to be lost), Medical records, Obama/Dunham marriage license, Obama/Dunham divorce documents, Soetoro/Dunham marriage license, Adoption records and of course the long-form Certificate of Live Birth.
These are the documents that Sheriff Joe Arpaio, his Cold Case Posse, State Rep. Carl Seal & State Sen. Lori Klein listed when they discussed the bill to be introduced.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z9fktwKCu50
May I also add that it would be helpful if Obama offered some type of explanation as to why his social security number was issued in Connecticut.
JDW
October 9th, 2012
3:14 pm
@Tiberius…”Then tell us which tax cuts aren’t being paid for by cuts in spending and/or eliminations of deductions”
See thats kind of the point…Romney has not mentioned EXACTLY HOW he will pay for his $5 trillion tax cut.
JDW
October 9th, 2012
3:16 pm
@Towncrier…”It was a serious political miscalculation. It’s like criticizing a person for not cutting their lawn when the neighborhood is on fire.”
I agree Romney should have never brought it up…Obama merely pointed out the miscalculation.
Tiberius - pulling the tail of the left AND right when needed
October 9th, 2012
3:18 pm
“See thats kind of the point…Romney has not mentioned EXACTLY HOW he will pay for his $5 trillion tax cut.”
And see, that’s kinda the point about his response during the debate, which you keep ignoring, JDW.
He doesn’t go in and try to dictate to the legislative branch – he listens to them and tries to work WITH them – unlike Obama, Reid and Pelosi.
He’s a LOT smarter than you, JDW.
Towncrier
October 9th, 2012
3:20 pm
“I agree Romney should have never brought it up…Obama merely pointed out the miscalculation.”
Now you are just being silly.
@@
October 9th, 2012
3:20 pm
Too funny!
Obama Supporters: President Should Have Teleprompter At Debates
I’m sure Elmo has a script. Obama should too.
SCHNIRT
Tiberius - pulling the tail of the left AND right when needed
October 9th, 2012
3:22 pm
“Now you are just being silly.”
NOW, Towncrier? When JDW is not being silly he’s being ridiculous or disingenuous. That’s all he’s got.
Finn McCool (The System isn't Broken; It's Fixed)
October 9th, 2012
3:23 pm
Romney’s foreign policy speech on Monday was another example of his tendency to lie on minor stuff as well as weighty issues. For instance, he claimed that President Barack Obama “has not signed one new free trade agreement in the past four years” though Obama secured passage of agreements with South Korea, Colombia and Panama and signed them in October 2011.
http://www.alternet.org/world/big-foreign-policy-speech-romney-lies-entire-world
JDW
October 9th, 2012
3:24 pm
@Kyle, “they aren’t criticizing the $5 trillion tax-cut figure that you and Obama keep repeating.”
They seem to want to give Romney the doubt of smoke and mirrors…fact is, as they agree, Romeny wants to cut taxes by $5 trillion…what they point out is that he claims he will pay for that.
“To be clear, Romney has proposed cutting personal federal income tax rates across the board by 20 percent, in addition to extending the tax cuts enacted early in the Bush administration. He also proposes to eliminate the estate tax permanently, repeal the Alternative Minimum Tax, and eliminate taxes on interest, capital gains and dividends for taxpayers making under $200,000 a year in adjusted gross income.
By themselves, those cuts would, according to the nonpartisan Tax Policy Center, lower federal tax liability by “about $480 billion in calendar year 2015” compared with current tax policy, with Bush cuts left in place. The Obama campaign has extrapolated that figure out over 10 years, coming up with a $5 trillion figure over a decade.
However, Romney always has said he planned to offset that massive cut with equally massive reductions in tax preferences to broaden the tax base, thus losing no revenue and not increasing the deficit. So to that extent, the president is incorrect: Romney is not proposing a $5 trillion reduction in taxes.”
http://factcheck.org/2012/10/dubious-denver-debate-declarations/
My point is that it is a $5 trillion dollar tax cut…even if he pays for it and makes it revenue neutral, which BTW won’t spur the growth he is claiming. The whole thing is a sham and it doesn’t add up…even if Romney claims it does.
Until he comes out with a specific way of paying for the decrease it remains a proposed $5 trillion tax cut.
Finn McCool (The System isn't Broken; It's Fixed)
October 9th, 2012
3:29 pm
Still, the biggest lie is when Romney bald-faced told everyone in the debate that his healthcare plan covers pre-existing conditions when it doesn’t.
You Cons like being lied to, don’t you?
Li'l Aynie
October 9th, 2012
3:29 pm
Kyle, I hope you had a great time in China! Since we didn’t have you to kick around, we had to pick on poor ol’ Jamie Dupree, who has the misfortune to cover the antics of Congress.
Did you take the opportunity to look around and marvel at the economic and social miracle of the nation that achieved the greatest humanitarian feat of all times? China managed to lift a billion people out of dire poverty and utter despair in only two decades. The progress is spotty still, but it shows what free enterprise can do in a business environment without corporate monopolies and obstructive politicians.
The Chinese government maintains order and builds infrastructure. Private business flourishes, people have jobs, and both consumer demand and capital grow around 8% each year. And they started from nothing!
Just think what we could accomplish for ourselves and our children if we had the presence of mind and the guts to throw off the shackles of financial manipulators, monopolistic Big Business practices, and obstructive politicians! Oops, that’s getting political, isn’t it?
Welcome back to the same old grind with two political factions battling for power; one party wants to pull America forward into the 21st century, the other wants to cash in America and bail out.
Tiberius - pulling the tail of the left AND right when needed
October 9th, 2012
3:30 pm
“My point is that it is a $5 trillion dollar tax cut…even if he pays for it and makes it revenue neutral, which BTW won’t spur the growth he is claiming.”
Because unlike you, JDW, Romney understands that it isn’t just one thing that will fix a broken economy.
He’s a LOT smarter than you are, son. A LOT.
“Until he comes out with a specific way of paying for the decrease it remains a proposed $5 trillion tax cut.”
So let it be written. So let it be done!
JDW
October 9th, 2012
3:33 pm
@Tiberius…”Romney understands that it isn’t just one thing that will fix a broken economy.”
Then why is he only bringing a tax cut and smoke and mirrors.
As for smarter…why you are the only person that I know that can take two people they have never met and pass judgement.
Finn McCool (The System isn't Broken; It's Fixed)
October 9th, 2012
3:38 pm
“Yeah, we have a deficit and Willard wants to fix it with MORE TAX cuts and MORE WARS.”
Tiberius wrote:
Really? Cite please.
Just read the transcript of his speech on Monday. Permanent aircraft carriers. Double the number of ships in the Navy. He is asking Nato countries to chip in 2% of their GDP. What do you think he is going to do with all this weaponry? Chill on the Caymen’s beaches?
Tiberius - pulling the tail of the left AND right when needed
October 9th, 2012
3:39 pm
“Then why is he only bringing a tax cut and smoke and mirrors. ”
Of course, he has a LOT more than that,JDW, but that would require you to actually READ his 59-point plan for economic recovery.
And while I have never met you, I have met Romney. I also know his long, long list of accomplishments, and if you had 1/10oth of his accomplishments, you wouldn’t be trolling on a blog in Atlanta. And I don’t need to meet someone to know how smart they are when they write so much drivel as you do.
Tiberius - pulling the tail of the left AND right when needed
October 9th, 2012
3:41 pm
“What do you think he is going to do with all this weaponry?”
So you’re saying that Romney DIDN’T declare two wars in his speech on Monday, Finn. Thanks for admitting that.
@@
October 9th, 2012
3:45 pm
(Reuters) – Gold fell for a third consecutive session on Tuesday as a stern warning by the International Monetary Fund on global growth and worries about a slowing Chinese economy lessened bullion’s appeal as an inflation hedge.
Gold’s down.
The dollar’s down.
The price of gas is up…
and the Earth’s magnetic field is long overdue for a flip.
Things could be worse.
Peace
October 9th, 2012
3:54 pm
Did Jim Henson and his Muppets (Big Bird, et. al.) make PBS successful or did PBS and taxpayer subsidies make Big Bird a financial success? I don’t know the background of the financial arrangements but it seems that royalties from Jim Henson’s characters and spin offs should have accrued to PBS, if the venue was his ticket to success. That could have removed any need for taxpayer subsidies.
Also, every time Bill O’Reilly or any other ‘news personality’ or program guest uses a program to hawk their books, videos, or tickets to appearance venues, they should receive a 1099 for the advertising value of that air time for promotion. You can bet they deduct their expenses associated with the same events.
Finn McCool (The System isn't Broken; It's Fixed)
October 9th, 2012
3:54 pm
Former General Electric CEO Jack Welch said he would stop writing for Fortune magazine and Reuters after he generated controversy for questioning government unemployment figures, Fortune.com reported. Reuters, Fortune.com and Fortune.com sibling CNNMoney have all run critical coverage of Welch since Friday. A Fortune.com article highlighted that GE had lost 100,000 jobs during Welch’s tenure, roughly a quarter of its workforce.
Idiot. LOL
Linda
October 9th, 2012
3:55 pm
Reasonable@2:55, The tax cuts under Bush in ‘01 & ‘03 can’t be blamed for the financial crisis. It was actually because of the tax cuts that helped to get the economy our of the recession in ‘01 & ‘02 as well as overcoming the damage of Katrina. The tax cuts actually expanded tax revenues enough to drive down budget deficits for 3 years in a row from ‘05 thru ‘07, this despite massive war spending.
Revenues:
‘01 $1.991 T
‘02 $1.853 T
‘03 $1.782 T
‘04 $1.880 T
‘05 $2.154 T
‘06 $2.407 T
‘07 $2.568 T
‘08 $2.524 T
Blaming Bush solely for the “train wreck” & accusing Romney of a desire to invade & take away women’s rights are ludicrous & shows obvious desperation.
Kyle Wingfield
October 9th, 2012
3:56 pm
Hey Slick Rick, aka SHUT UP TIBERIUS, aka the person using the vulgar handles a few minutes ago: Yes, I really did ban you again.
Finn McCool (The System isn't Broken; It's Fixed)
October 9th, 2012
3:58 pm
Tiberius has met Romney so that makes him an expert on all things Romeny.
Tib, did you meet him in an airport bathroom? Was it that kind of meeting?
@@
October 9th, 2012
3:58 pm
SAN FRANCISCO—President Barack Obama, feeling the pressure after last week’s stumble in the opening debate, has retooled his stump…
And here I thought he was looking at his mismatched socks.
I’ve heard tell that falling face down can severely injure a stump.
Finn McCool (The System isn't Broken; It's Fixed)
October 9th, 2012
4:00 pm
Ann Romney calls Tiberius when she needs to know what is on Mitt’s mind.
One perspective....
October 9th, 2012
4:04 pm
“The entire Republican platform is about gutting social security but, ya know, most Americans really like that program.”
You know, they actually addressed that during the debates, too. Social Security is not on thin ice. It might be as soon as another 20 million people without jobs go on disability. For right now, it is solvent. With just a few small tweaks, it will remain solvent.
Linda
October 9th, 2012
4:06 pm
Kyle, Please delete the comment @3:21. That guy’s momma could see it & take his Big Bird away.
They BOTH suck
October 9th, 2012
4:06 pm
Tiberius
I do hope you have washed your hand by know and stopped blushing like a little school girl after the meeting with Romney.
As for the topic: Romney did has gotten a huge bounce from the debate. We will see if he can close the deal or falls back.
Finn McCool (The System isn't Broken; It's Fixed)
October 9th, 2012
4:06 pm
http://gawker.com/5950189/
If Obama wins, you lose your job. The 1%. Keep bending over for them Cons.
They BOTH suck
October 9th, 2012
4:08 pm
by now…………
excuse me
Tiberius - pulling the tail of the left AND right when needed
October 9th, 2012
4:09 pm
No, Finn, the things that makes me an expert on Romney is that I lived in Massachusetts, so I know what he did there, and I actually took the time to read his life history and his plans for America.
If you weren’t so busy cruisin’ the liberal blogosphere all day long at slate and alternet, you could be an expert on Romney as well. Make the effort, will ya?
Tiberius - pulling the tail of the left AND right when needed
October 9th, 2012
4:12 pm
I don’t blush when meeting anyone, TBS. They’re just people to me. Nothing more, nothing less. No matter what station in life they have achieved.
And I’ve met more than my share of elected officials in my life.
They BOTH suck
October 9th, 2012
4:14 pm
Well that is good to know Tiberius……… I’m sure someone on the blog is envious. Not sure who, but someone will come along
RW-(the original)
October 9th, 2012
4:16 pm
It’s really telling that Obama thinks that Big Bird needs a government subsidy to survive. If Big Bird can’t leave the government hen house nobody can.
Tiberius - pulling the tail of the left AND right when needed
October 9th, 2012
4:16 pm
Save your snarky comments for the masses, TBS. They might work on them.
Drudge
October 9th, 2012
4:16 pm
When you resort to using puppets in your ads during one of the most pivotal elections of American history, you know you have just nothing left. It is a campaign of distraction, not substance – tax returns, wars on things, big bird – all while the foundation crumbles beneath us. Glad to see the polls are reflecting this change today – even though they are still skewed, they are pretty shocking to the dems.
@@
October 9th, 2012
4:19 pm
Obama’s economic policies are encouraging mental illness.
As extended unemployment benefits finally expired, large numbers of out-of-work people have applied for Social Security disability benefits.
Stephen Goss, Chief Actuary of the Social Security Administration acknowledged that “when people become unemployed, they seek a way to continue having income. So, we had an increase in the number of applications and the number of people receiving benefits.”
The Social Security Administration reported that in May 2012, the latest period for which statistics are available, more than 10 million people were receiving disability benefits at an annual rate of about $130 billion. These people, incidentally, aren’t counted among the unemployed – another way the unemployment rate under-states the severity of our current crisis.
Reportedly many of the applications for disability benefits have been based on claimed mental illness. It’s difficult to independently verify such claims. Even when a claim is about a physical condition, there is no medical test for pain – doctors must rely on what patients report. During the last calendar year, there were 2.9 million applications, and about 35 percent were awarded benefits.
To the extent that disability benefits create incentives to exaggerate real or imagined problems like mental illness, they’re surely making people even less employable than they were before.
http://www.forbes.com/sites/jimpowell/2012/07/10/why-long-term-unemployment-has-doubled-under-president-obama/
@@
October 9th, 2012
4:23 pm
Oops! Dropped the slanties in that fifth paragraph.
I can see it now…the patient walks in declaring themselves an Obama supporter. The doctor immediately declares them not only mentally ill, but disabled.
schnirt
Linda
October 9th, 2012
4:31 pm
I think Romney set Obama up. Obama has been pandering to every group he could think of. The most stupid was thinking he could buy fertile women for $9 per month, when everyone knows women are outrageously expensive. (Ask a divorce lawyer.) Whoever in Romney’s campaign thought that Obama would actually start another war, this time a fictional War On Big Bird, was brilliant! Who could have evoked an image of the president of the US with his arm around a 7 foot tall yellow bird must have been FLOCKING away the days. Obama has surely laid an EGG, but he has almost a month to CLAW his way back to the top & let everyone know who rules the ROOST.
Sesame probably did Obama (& his family) a huge favor. It was also bad publicity for Big Bird, who is against abortion & gay marriage.
MarkV
October 9th, 2012
4:38 pm
When Obama during the debate talked about Romney’s 5 trillion tax cut proposal, he was correct, and when Romney repeatedly denied it, he was wrong, and so is Kyle.
JamVet
October 9th, 2012
4:38 pm
PBS?
In an ocean of filth, pollution, sleaze and huge leeches, who needs even one island of decency and excellence nonpareil?
Besides it sucks for our anti-USA Uncle Sam haters to fully see that the free market “does everything worse” than government.
Stay stupid, my fiends.
The reason you neocons want to eliminate PBS has nothing to do with the miniscule amount of money involved.
It has everything to do with the fact that you are addicted to stupid. And PBS makes your corporate stupidvision look really, really, really bad.
And in our new quasi-fascist nation of Corporations Uber Alles, you cannot have that…
Hillbilly D
October 9th, 2012
4:39 pm
I wonder what ol’ Big Bird would dress out at.
Linda
October 9th, 2012
4:40 pm
How could someone get banned from a blog about Big Bird? Did he think we were sharing Thanksgiving recipes? Speaking of Thanksgiving, will Obama pardon the turkey this year? Will he substitute the turkey with a taller, yellower bird?
@@
October 9th, 2012
4:44 pm
Counted among the many things I DID NOT know.
in his 2010 book “No Apology; The Case for American Greatness” Mitt Romney specifically wrote about garbage collectors, including a line about them being invisible to the suits:
“During my campaign for governor, I decided to spend a day every few weeks doing the jobs of other people in Massachusetts. Among other jobs, I cooked sausages at Fenway Park, worked on asphalt paving crew, stacked bales of hay on a farm, volunteered in an emergency room, served food at anursing home, and worked as a child-care assistant. I’m often asked which was the hardest job – it’schild care, by a mile.
“One day I gathered trash as a garbage collector. I stood on that little platform at the back of the truck, holding on as the driver navigated his way
through the narrow streets of Boston. As we pulled up to traffic lights, I noticed that the shoppers and businesspeople who were standing only a few feet from me didn’t even see me. It was as if I was invisible. Perhaps it was because a lot of us don’t think garbage men are worthy of notice; I disagree – anyone who works that hard deserves our respect. – I wasn’t a particularly good garbage collector: at one point, after filling the trough at the back of the truck, I pulled the wrong hydraulic lever. Instead of pushing the load into the truck, I dumped it onto the street. Maybe the suits didn’t notice me, but the guys at the construction site sure did…” (251)
http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/assets/romney-as-trash-collector.jpeg
I wonder if the construction guys gave him a hug?
Linda
October 9th, 2012
4:45 pm
If it’s in the yellow pages &/or not in the Constitution, the govt. needs to stay out of it.
JamVet
October 9th, 2012
4:45 pm
Killing the non-profit PBS enhances the Party of Stupid’s anti-intellectual, anti-science and anti-environment positions. The tiny amount of money allowed to counter their zillions of dollars has nothing to do with it.
The corporate stooges in the GOP don’t want American citizens, especially American children, to be highly informed and passionate about this country. Thus they loathe Frontline, Nova, American Experience, Nature, American Masters, independent journalism and amazingly documentaries, great performances and dramatic masterpieces of all kinds
And Austin City Limits!
The slick guys on snake-oil lined Madison Avenue certainly don’t want ANY competition. Especially the kind that puts out more excellent programming in a week than they do in a year.
So they use their nitwit McCarthyite proxies in the Republican Party to wage war on the “competition”.
Not insignificantly because public broadcasting and collective ownership makes them look like the filth purveyors they are. And the HUGE money for keeping people uninformed, culturally illiterate, dumbed down, happy dolts is simply too great to create an equally high quality product.
So go ahead cons, enjoy your Wheel of Fortune and Trump trash TV…
td
October 9th, 2012
4:47 pm
Finn McCool (The System isn’t Broken; It’s Fixed)
October 9th, 2012
2:14 pm
Sesame Street does well. But what about the Ken Burns stuff? Who is going to support stuff like that? How about American Experience?
The Civil War Ken Burns series didn’t sell a lot of merchandise but I think we are a better place for having it than not having it and saving my $1.35.
I am going to have my $1:35 to give to PBS in their fund raising drive and if enough people also want to give to them then Ken Burns will make another series. If not then Ken Burns is going to have to try to get funding from other sources, In other words the market would decide.
@@
October 9th, 2012
4:51 pm
Stay stupid, my fiends. [sic]
It would appear as though AmVet fancies himself…The Most Interesting Man in The World.
thpbbppppt
td
October 9th, 2012
4:52 pm
JamVet
October 9th, 2012
4:45 pm
Killing the non-profit PBS enhances the Party of Stupid’s anti-intellectual, anti-science and anti-environment positions. The tiny amount of money allowed to counter their zillions of dollars has nothing to do with it.
More BS drivel. You know as well as I know that Republican voters are on average way smarter then Democratic voters. You need proof then just go and look at a map of Georgia with voting patterns then overlay it with a map of SAT scores and you will find Dem district score 200 to 300 points on average lower then Republican districts.
Now prove that I am wrong.
Tiberius - pulling the tail of the left AND right when needed
October 9th, 2012
4:53 pm
“When Obama during the debate talked about Romney’s 5 trillion tax cut proposal, he was correct,”
Sadly, he was not, because he stopped at the tax cut alone. But don’t let that little factoid stop you from believing that, MarkV.
“and when Romney repeatedly denied it, he was wrong, and so is Kyle.”
Fortunately, he was not, since he expanded the discussion of what was also included in his tax proposal, so Romney was (again) right, and so is Kyle.
YOU are the one who is wrong (again).
Linda
October 9th, 2012
4:54 pm
So, PBS is so unpopular, unwatched & uncompetitive that no one would buy commercial time to keep it on the air? The govt. is propping up another failure? Even MSNBC is still on the air, along with black and white Westerns.
@@
October 9th, 2012
4:56 pm
AmVet:
So go ahead cons, enjoy your Wheel of Fortune and Trump trash TV…
‘Ya know, AmVet?
I didn’t even know who Honey Boo Boo was until the libs brought it up. They appear to be big fans. Only exposure I’ve had is a quick google check.
Tiberius - pulling the tail of the left AND right when needed
October 9th, 2012
4:56 pm
“Stay stupid, my fiends.”
You just can’t make this stuff up, folks.
JDW
October 9th, 2012
4:57 pm
@Tiberius…”59-point plan for economic recovery”
That would be the smoke part…from that bastion of “Liberal Thought” The Economist on Mitt’s plan
“Instead he has appeared as a fawning PR man, apparently willing to do or say just about anything to get elected.”
http://www.economist.com/node/21560864
“And while I have never met you, I have met Romney. I also know his long, long list of accomplishments”
And you likely won’t…we run in…ummmm…different circles.
“if you had 1/10oth of his accomplishments, you wouldn’t be trolling on a blog in Atlanta”
Quite ok with mine thanks and while I don’t have Mittens $, neither do I have his baggage. And yeah I waste far too much time on the likes of you, but I can multiprocess quite well.
“And I don’t need to meet someone to know how smart they are when they write so much drivel as you do.”
Knowing your public record…I wouldn’t expect you to be able to string two thoughts together.
Gimme Gimme Gimme
October 9th, 2012
4:57 pm
“The 1%. Keep bending over for them Cons.”
Bend over to deposit that money, we sure don’t make a living from all the people Obama put on food stamps.
Patty
October 9th, 2012
5:00 pm
F. Sinkwich, do you even watch these programs? If you did you would know that at the beginning of each program, there’s a LONG list of contributors who made them possible so they would keep being made. And I’d much rather have a short commercial break than those blasted 30 minute infomercials PBS does now.
And all those other channels you listed–you pay for them in your cable bill.
Patty
October 9th, 2012
5:01 pm
I found this article interesting:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2215173/Obama-believed-beaten-Romney-Denver-debate-ignoring-advice-aides.html
Gimme Gimme Gimme
October 9th, 2012
5:03 pm
Patty-
Nice link. Of course Obama thought he won. That’s the way narcissists think.
MarkV
October 9th, 2012
5:03 pm
MarkV: …and when Romney repeatedly denied it [the 5 trillion taxcut], he was wrong, and so is Kyle.”
“Fortunately, he was not, since he expanded the discussion…”
An expansion of a discussion as a criterion of truth or falsity of a statement, what a novel idea.
JamVet
October 9th, 2012
5:04 pm
Y…Republican voters are on average way smarter then Democratic voters.
Well, td, you sure are bringing the GOP’s average down.
“With the enormous problems facing the country, the fact that we are the focus is unbelievable to me,” PBS CEO Paula Kerger said. “We are America’s biggest classroom, we touch children across the country in every home.”
Twelve one-hundredths.
0.012.
That is the percentage of the US budget allocated to the outstanding, unrivaled PBS.
And Mitt the money-hider wants to eliminate it as some demented fiscally responsible maneuver???
This brilliant man put the moron coddler’s foot-in-mouth syndrome in perspective:
Cutting PBS support (0.012% of budget) to help balance the Federal budget is like deleting text files to make room on your 500Gig hard drive. ~ Neil deGrasse Tyson
Linda
October 9th, 2012
5:04 pm
Hillbilly@4:39, He’s already “dressed” & stuffed. Unfortunately, my oven’s not that big.
JDW
October 9th, 2012
5:05 pm
@Linda…let me introduce you to a basic fact of comparing numbers over time…NPV or Adjusting for Inflation….government receipts in 2005 constant dollars
2000 2,310.0
2001 2,215.3
2002 2,028.6
2003 1,901.1
2004 1,949.5
2005 2,153.6
2006 2,324.1
2007 2,414.0
2008 2,288.1
You will notice that receipts in 2008 are LESS than those of 2000. As you so clearly miss, the Bush tax cuts did not expand revenues in real dollars.
Gimme Gimme Gimme
October 9th, 2012
5:05 pm
You don’t understand Jammie, PBS wont be the only cut. Just one of the first!
Tiberius - pulling the tail of the left AND right when needed
October 9th, 2012
5:07 pm
“That would be the smoke part…from that bastion of “Liberal Thought” The Economist on Mitt’s plan”
Oh, so we’re supposed to take the opinion writings of a newspaper written in London for our cue on whether we are to support Mitt Romney’s actual plan, as opposed to – actually READING Mitt Romney’s actual plan, right JDW?
You’re right; we do travel in different circles. I travel in the one with people who have working brains.
JDW
October 9th, 2012
5:09 pm
@Tiberious…”I travel in the one with people who have working brains.”
Do you guys swap the one model back and forth or do you just gather round it every night…
Hillbilly D
October 9th, 2012
5:10 pm
I watch PBS all the time but I still don’t think it’s a function of government. Sure it’s a drop in the bucket but all those drops are what fill the bucket. I think all subsidies to all businesses should be cut. Let ‘em sink or swim on their own.
JamVet
October 9th, 2012
5:11 pm
Honey Boo Boo?
All I know is that she is on the “Learning Channel”!
The corporate privatization pigs devolved it into a for profit, child exploitation channel.
The Learning Channel was founded in 1972 by the Department of Health, Education, and Welfare and NASA as an informative/instructional network focused on providing real education through the medium of TV; it was distributed at no cost by NASA satellite. Then it was privatized (See Reaganism) in November 1980 and the name was changed to “The Learning Channel”, which was subsequently shortened to “TLC.”
Just how pathetic is corporate TV????
Gimme Gimme Gimme
October 9th, 2012
5:13 pm
“Just how pathetic is corporate TV????”
MSNBC is pretty bad.
td
October 9th, 2012
5:13 pm
JamVet
October 9th, 2012
5:04 pm
Y…Republican voters are on average way smarter then Democratic voters.
Well, td, you sure are bringing the GOP’s average down.
I would much rather be the dumbest person in the smartest group then be the biggest smart a$$ is the dumbest group. Oh that right, you are so far out side the main stream of American thought that you do not belong to either party. Anyone that would vote for Ralph Nader says all we need to know about intelligence levels.
@@
October 9th, 2012
5:15 pm
Hillbilly:
I was looking at AmVet’s long list and thought…..
HEY! I’m watching PBS
alot!!!!
Linda
October 9th, 2012
5:17 pm
JDW@5:05, Looky, looky! You got the same chart from the guberment likes me! And you done taking time to teach me a thingy or two.
Now, if I had tried to tell that guy about adjusting for inflation & real dollars, he would have thought I was from Mars.
Liberals think that cutting taxes cuts govt. revenues, dollar for dollar, & that is a flat out lie. Point made.
Over & out.
@@
October 9th, 2012
5:18 pm
And Hillbilly?
Were you ever able to catch Merle Haggard on “American Greats”?
Del
October 9th, 2012
5:18 pm
Don’t know about Big Bird but with most polls tipping seriously in Romney’s direction this could be the October surprise that will have some libs on this forum as well as Bookman’s eating crow in November.
td
October 9th, 2012
5:20 pm
JDW
October 9th, 2012
5:05 pm
@Linda…let me introduce you to a basic fact of comparing numbers over time…NPV or Adjusting for Inflation….government receipts in 2005 constant dollars
2000 2,310.0
2001 2,215.3
2002 2,028.6
2003 1,901.1
2004 1,949.5
2005 2,153.6
2006 2,324.1
2007 2,414.0
2008 2,288.1
You will notice that receipts in 2008 are LESS than those of 2000. As you so clearly miss, the Bush tax cuts did not expand revenues in real dollars.
All I can say is unbelievable. I know you libs are usually not very good with numbers since all you do is to use emotions but to miss one this bad. In 2007, revenues to the government reached its highest levels EVER. The economy contracted so that would naturally mean revenues would be down. Look at Georgia for an example, revenues were $22.6 billion in 2007 and went down to $17.6 billion in 2009.
Hillbilly D
October 9th, 2012
5:21 pm
@@
I missed that one. Maybe it’ll come back around again, sometime. I’ve had lots of irons in the fire, lately.
I watch all kinds of stuff. I even watch LinkTV on occasion. Once in a while they have something that interests me.
Linda
October 9th, 2012
5:22 pm
Romney’s a Christian & will apply the Golden Rule. If govt. supports PBS, then prop them all up. Put the cable & satellite companies out of business. Call the govt. when you need “service.”
jconservative
October 9th, 2012
5:23 pm
Kyle,
Our candidate just took 3 giant steps to the left. Couple more and he will be a certified card carrying Democrat. And you write about Big Bird.
Please!
@@
October 9th, 2012
5:23 pm
Hillbilly:
From me (and PBS) to you.
http://www.pbs.org/wnet/americanmasters/episodes/merle-haggard/watch-the-full-film/1605/
getalife
October 9th, 2012
5:24 pm
The President’s Big Bird ad is hilarious.
He is using sarcasm to show Americans the romney campaign is a Big Joke and he is right.
The debate gave him ammunition for his stump speech and mitt running away from his tax plan is the focus.
JamVet
October 9th, 2012
5:25 pm
td, you and your imaginary “we” friends are cute.
Not particularly well written or interesting, but humorous.
So you’ve got that going for you.
A TAT, rhetorical question then. Why does Mitt Money Boo Boo want to make them go away?
Numerous programs like this, across a wide range of highly important topics, is why:
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/money-power-wall-street/
New Mortgage Task Force Charges JPMorgan With “Systemic Fraud”
For nearly five years, federal regulators have struggled to successfully prosecute Wall Street banks or executives for alleged misconduct during the financial crisis. Now, time may be running out.
NO ONE in the corporate owned media (who use for free we the people’s airwaves) DARES provide information remotely similar to this. And that scares the hell out of the Titans of Malfeasance and Criminal Negligence.
They desperately need Honey Boo Boo fans, not an informed, engaged and empowered citizenry who dares stand up to them.
@@
October 9th, 2012
5:25 pm
I’ve had lots of irons in the fire, lately.
Branding season?
@@
October 9th, 2012
5:27 pm
AmVet:
PBS can function without the government’s help.
getalife
October 9th, 2012
5:27 pm
“Our candidate just took 3 giant steps to the left. Couple more and he will be a certified card carrying Democrat. And you write about Big Bird.
Please!”
Good point. At the end of this cycle mitt will be to the left of President Obama.
A Dem primary election, if you will.
Kyle Wingfield
October 9th, 2012
5:29 pm
JamVet @ 4:38: “you neocons want to eliminate PBS” (my emphasis)
Eliminate? Removing subsidies now equals “elimination”? I take it, then, that you want to “eliminate” the oil companies since they receive subsidies to which you object? In other words, if government doesn’t do it, it doesn’t happen. If government doesn’t fund it, it won’t exist.
Your phrasing — and don’t pretend it was accidental — represents the left’s fundamental problem as succinctly as it could be stated.
Linda
October 9th, 2012
5:29 pm
Disney & Mickey Mouse are suing the Obama adm. for discrimination.
getalife
October 9th, 2012
5:29 pm
@@,
Don’t cut billions for big oil and corporate welfare when they are making record profits but cut PBS makes sense to you?
Seriously?
Hillbilly D
October 9th, 2012
5:29 pm
Branding season?
Rustlin’ is not for me. (IWH)
Thanks for the Merle link. I’ve heard a lot of stories about him from people I knew who played in Nashville but I won’t repeat ‘em.
Towncrier
October 9th, 2012
5:30 pm
“Eliminate? Removing subsidies now equals “elimination”? I take it, then, that you want to “eliminate” the oil companies since they receive subsidies to which you object? In other words, if government doesn’t do it, it doesn’t happen. If government doesn’t fund it, it won’t exist. Your phrasing — and don’t pretend it was accidental — represents the left’s fundamental problem as succinctly as it could be stated.”
Come on, Kyle, you know full well that the government should be underwriting and controlling everything. Haven’t you read 1984???
Kyle Wingfield
October 9th, 2012
5:33 pm
Oh, and @ 4:45 (sorry, I’ve been working on other things and am just getting caught up): “The slick guys on snake-oil lined Madison Avenue certainly don’t want ANY competition.”
“Madison Avenue” typically refers to the advertising industry. PBS doesn’t air advertising.
Even if you meant the TV industry, this makes no sense. PBS represented a significant amount of “competition” to the networks back when it was basically just ABC, CBS, NBC and PBS. There already are dozens, if not hundreds, of channels competing with one another now.
Clearly, my being away has left your argumentative skills very rusty…
td
October 9th, 2012
5:34 pm
For you libs that want to blame Obama’s debate defeat on Romney moving to the left either do not understand philosophy or are just trying to spin so move crap.
I was with Kyle and supported Newt in the primaries and thought Mitt was a moderate at best and a RINO. I listened to the debate very carefully and what I heard was Mitt talking more about Conservative principles and philosophy then any other Republican candidate since Reagan. I was pleasantly surprised and believe these are the principles he will govern by when elected..
Tiberius - pulling the tail of the left AND right when needed
October 9th, 2012
5:36 pm
“Your phrasing — and don’t pretend it was accidental — represents the left’s fundamental problem as succinctly as it could be stated.”
Precisely, Kyle!
Take a relatively small issue and blow it all out of proportion by doubling down on it and then lying about it.
It’s all they’ve got.
getalife
October 9th, 2012
5:36 pm
Kyle,
How much will cutting PBS save our government?
Towncrier
October 9th, 2012
5:36 pm
“Clearly, my being away has left your argumentative skills very rusty…”
Your use of the word “rusty” implies a once pristine or good condition – which is very generous of you. I was thinking something more like “still undeveloped” would have been better.
getalife
October 9th, 2012
5:38 pm
td,
Is that what rush told you to think today?
Tiberius - pulling the tail of the left AND right when needed
October 9th, 2012
5:38 pm
“Clearly, my being away has left your argumentative skills very rusty…”
While many of us missed you, Kyle, AmVet’s argumentative skills have never really been up to par . . .
Unless being perpetually grouchy constitutes making an argument.
Tiberius - pulling the tail of the left AND right when needed
October 9th, 2012
5:39 pm
“How much will cutting PBS save our government?”
Doesn’t matter, getalife. It’s not a function of government.
getalife
October 9th, 2012
5:41 pm
Looks like you are in their heads JamVet.
Good job.
Just sayin…….
getalife
October 9th, 2012
5:44 pm
“Doesn’t matter, getalife. It’s not a function of government.”
It does matter to compare to our President cutting billions to big oil welfare.
It is a losing argument and you know it.
Show some intellectual honesty for a change.
@@
October 9th, 2012
5:46 pm
Getalife:
Don’t cut billions for big oil and corporate welfare when they are making record profits but cut PBS makes sense to you?
Here’s your mission if you choose to accept it.
Go back and find ALL my comments on subsidies, loopholes and tax credits.
Then drag your sorry azz back under the weight.
(ISH)
Tiberius - pulling the tail of the left AND right when needed
October 9th, 2012
5:47 pm
“It does matter to compare to our President cutting billions to big oil welfare.”
Uh, getalife? Did you actually see the debate or listen to it?
Romney talked about getting rid of oil subsides as well, but it was part of an overall tax overhaul, not a means to stick it to some particular segment of business as Obama wants to do.
Show a little intelligence for a change.
Towncrier
October 9th, 2012
5:47 pm
“Looks like you are in their heads JamVet.”
He, like you getalife, is an “easy target” when it comes to logical refutation. And that is why you two (and others like you) are relegated to “ankle biting” – because logical debate is beyond your ability. At least the tow of you have found some purpose on these blogs – even if it is just to provide background noise.
getalife
October 9th, 2012
5:47 pm
@@,
No.
Answer the question.
Towncrier
October 9th, 2012
5:49 pm
“Here’s your mission if you choose to accept it. Go back and find ALL my comments on subsidies, loopholes and tax credits. Then drag your sorry azz back under the weight.”
ROFL. You are wasting your time by responding to getalife and posters of his ilk. You might as well debate your dog, as responsive as they will prove to be.
getalife
October 9th, 2012
5:49 pm
towncrier,
Your logic makes no sense.
Perhaps you should try common sense for a change.
“How much will cutting PBS save our government?”
Kyle Wingfield
October 9th, 2012
5:50 pm
jconservative: Ahem. If I remember correctly, you said you voted for Romney in the primary specifically because you thought he could pull the moderate, independent votes needed to beat Obama. Which was a fair enough point. But how else did you expect him to pull those votes?
@@
October 9th, 2012
5:51 pm
Getalife:
You lazy!
Towncrier
October 9th, 2012
5:51 pm
I’m out. Good night all.
getalife
October 9th, 2012
5:52 pm
“Romney talked about getting rid of oil subsides as well:
Liar, read the transcrpt of the debate for proof.
He said it went to small oil companies and that is a blatant lie.
At least you know cutting PBS is a loser.
getalife
October 9th, 2012
5:53 pm
@@,
You are dodger.
It is a losing argument.
getalife
October 9th, 2012
5:54 pm
Towncrier ,
Cut and run?
Come on, bring that logic.
Too early to go to bed.
MarkV
October 9th, 2012
5:59 pm
The main issue regarding Romney’s comment about Sesame Street is that Romney, when he had a chance to say something substantial about his plan to cut programs “so critical it’s worth borrowing money from China to pay for it,” chose two examples of those that, in his opinion, were not in that category: PBS and the Affordable Care Act. Elimination of one (PBS) woud be a saving completely trivial in budget terms. The other example shows that for Romney a program providing health coverage to millions of Americans and improved health coverage to more millions, a program based on the one he is proud of, is just not critical enough.
Linda
October 9th, 2012
5:59 pm
Towncrier@5:49, I agree with your 1st point but not your 2nd. I’ve “debated” both & my dog was much more responsive.
Tiberius - pulling the tail of the left AND right when needed
October 9th, 2012
6:00 pm
Boy, there must have been some really bad polls out today, because the libs are positively apoplectic on the blog.
Not that they make any logical points or comments anyway, but they’re just so – worried, anxious, nervous, dispirited – you name it.
getalife
October 9th, 2012
6:01 pm
Linda,
Answer the question then genius.
How much will cutting PBS save our government?
Lets see you prove your debating skills Linda.
JamVet
October 9th, 2012
6:02 pm
In other words, if government doesn’t do it, it doesn’t happen. If government doesn’t fund it, it won’t exist.
More correctly, in your words.
So you use several of the the oft used Republicans logical fallacies – begging the question, correlation does not imply causation, false dilemma and the red herring among them.
Looks like your skills are the one that slipped terribly, Kyle…
getalife
October 9th, 2012
6:04 pm
“Not that they make any logical points or comments anyway”
cons are delusional thinking their “points” make any sense.
Cut and run after being challenged is not winning a debate.
That is losing a debate.
@@
October 9th, 2012
6:05 pm
Getalife:
Answer the question.
I’ve already answered the call on more than one occasion.
Go find ‘em.
Tiberius - pulling the tail of the left AND right when needed
October 9th, 2012
6:06 pm
“The other example shows that for Romney a program providing health coverage to millions of Americans and improved health coverage to more millions, a program based on the one he is proud of, is just not critical enough.”
Project much, MarkV?
First, as was pointed out months ago, the “model” being used for Obamacare is false at it’s core. It will cost a company less money to pay a fine for NOT providing healthcare than it will to provide the actual healthcare – about 3-4 times less, in fact. It will also cost the average family less to pay the “tax” for not having insurance than it would be to pay for the insurance – as much as 5-6 times less.
So Obamacare won’t provide healthcare to more people; it will ultimately provide less. It doesn’t reduce the cost of healthcare and it adds to our deficit.
Why wouldn’t anyone want to get rid of it?
Oh, and he supports the STATE model, not the Federal model. Get your facts straight.
Linda
October 9th, 2012
6:06 pm
Tiberius@6:00, It’s either meningitis or rabies.
getalife
October 9th, 2012
6:06 pm
Jamvet,
Kyle went from the far right with the newt, then moved far left with mitt so he is probably confused.
getalife
October 9th, 2012
6:08 pm
@@,
Dodge.
Just answer the question.
ODD OWL
October 9th, 2012
6:08 pm
Attention all of you non rich Republicans who support the Romney/Rand/Ryan Republicans.. Do you support the Romney/Ryan plan to invest your social security pension money in the stock market ??? Do you support turning your medicare coverage into a voucher system ??? Do you support eliminating medicaid coverage to your Grand Parents and other older relatives who might be in a nursing home or retirement home ??? What will happen to them ??? What will happen to the millions of patients in the nursing homes ??? Will there be any help from any Governmental agency or will their Children or Relatives be forced to care for them or will they simply be on their own ??? Who’s going to pay down the debt, rich people or middle class people ??? What about V.P. Al Gore’s “lock Box” social security investment plan from 2000 ??? You get regular S.S. money plus extra money (gravy) from the general treasury invested in the stock market in your name ??? I support the lock box plan 100% … Just saying… These questions are very important to you youngsters under the age of 55… When you guys hit double nickels, thats when the stuff will hit the fan…
getalife
October 9th, 2012
6:09 pm
“It’s either meningitis or rabies.”
Linda’s debating skills.
Name calling is not debate Linda.
@@
October 9th, 2012
6:10 pm
From The New Yorker!!??!!
http://image.patriotpost.us/2012-10-09-humor-5.jpg
OUCH!
getalife
October 9th, 2012
6:12 pm
wolf is pinning mitt down on his tax plan.
Says he wants a “progressive tax plan”
Failed to give any details is not a tax plan.
Epic failure.
@@
October 9th, 2012
6:12 pm
Getalife:
Just answer the question.
Unlike you, I’m not in the habit of repeating myself.
Now QUIT BEING LAZY!!!!
ODD OWL
October 9th, 2012
6:14 pm
Attention all under 55 years old, underpaid non rich workers who vote Republican… Do you support the Romney/Rand/Ryan plan to invest your social security pension money into the stock market ???
ODD OWL
October 9th, 2012
6:18 pm
Do middle class Republicans support turning medicare into a voucher system ??? Do middle class Republicans support eliminating medicaid altogether ??? What will happen to the bed ridden elderly and the disabled ???
JamVet
October 9th, 2012
6:19 pm
getalife, ain’t it great?
“Madison Avenue” typically refers to the advertising industry. PBS doesn’t air advertising.
Hello, is this thing on? LOL!
OF COURSE, they don’t, the corporate media does. They can’t have people watching Frontline or Nova – where they CANNOT advertise – when Honey Boo Boo and the Apprentice are on!
PBS represented a significant amount of “competition” to the networks back when it was basically just ABC, CBS, NBC and PBS.
Great. This ain’t 1970 anymore.
Now there are seven hundred for profit channels and one consistently much higher quality non-proft channel on.
Just another loser position for Mr. “I was dead wrong”:
A national survey by the bipartisan research firms of Hart Research and American Viewpoint in 2011 found that over two-thirds of American voters (69%) oppose proposals to eliminate government funding of public broadcasting, with Americans across the political spectrum against such a cut.
PBS cost us in one year what the occupation of Iraq costs in a few hours…
But we can’t afford it, huh fiscal conservatives?
Oh and that big yellow guy that Mitt says he likes? He is more popular than Mr Foot-in-mouth himself and the Uppity muslim:
Fifty one percent of likely voters had favorable opinions of Big Bird, making him more popular than either Obama or Romney.
Stay stupid, my friends…
ODD OWL
October 9th, 2012
6:21 pm
What about V.P. Al Gore’s “lock box” plan for social security ??? Money on the side… I support the lock box plan 100 %…
MarkV
October 9th, 2012
6:21 pm
Tiberius @ 6:06 pm: “Oh, and he supports the STATE model, not the Federal model. Get your facts straight.”
You should get your thoughts straight. First, did I not write that Romney supported a Federal model, therefore your point is false. Second, in spite of all the hot air talk from the right about state vs. federal , nobody has ever presented a cogent argument why the type of this program that is successful (according to Romney) in a state would be wrong for the nation.
The charge that “Obamacare won’t provide healthcare to more people; it will ultimately provide less” is false and ridiculous.
mike
October 9th, 2012
6:21 pm
There’s a simple solution to this whole problem. Just eliminate anything in the federal budget that is not military industrial complex spending. Since spending on the military industrial complex consumes all of our non-social security and non-medicare tax revenues will have a balanced budget overnight!
Linda
October 9th, 2012
6:21 pm
Obamacare summed up in one sentence:
“We’re going to be gifted with a healthcare plan we are forced to purchase, and fined if we don’t, which puportedly covers at least 10 million more people, without adding a single new doctor, but provides for 16,000 new IRS agents, written by a committee whose chairman says he doesn’t understand it, passed by a congress that didn’t read it but exempted themselves from it, and signed by a president who smokes, with funding administered by a treasury chief who didn’t pay his taxes, for which we will be taxed for four years before any benefits take effect, by a government which has already bankrupted social security and medicare, all to be overseen by a surgeon general who is obese and financed by a country that’s broke.”
“So, what the blank could possibly go wrong?”
Dr. Barbara Bellar, candidate, Ill. State Senate
■Veteran Major, United States Army Reserve. IMA Unit
■Family Medicine Physician and Addiction Medicine Specialist.
■Adjunct Teaching Faculty, DePaul University,
Medical Malpractice and Health Law.
■Adjunct Graduate Teaching Faculty, Benedictine University,
Political and Ethical Issues in Public Health.
■Masters in Bioethics and Health Policy – Loyola University.
■Licensed Attorney in the State of Illinois.
■Current Graduate Studies in Public Health.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vdnY8r7_fLw
Tiberius - pulling the tail of the left AND right when needed
October 9th, 2012
6:24 pm
“Do you support the Romney/Ryan plan to invest your social security pension money in the stock market ???”
Please cite the actual policy which will do this as stated in Mitt Romney’s platform.
“Do you support turning your medicare coverage into a voucher system ???”
You DO realize that the voucher system is optional, don’t you? (Why do I bother asking)
“Do you support eliminating medicaid coverage to your Grand Parents and other older relatives who might be in a nursing home or retirement home ???”
Please cite the actual policy which will do this as stated in Mitt Romney’s platform.
Thanks for playing, ODD OWL.
Now go back to the crack pipe.
mike
October 9th, 2012
6:28 pm
“Now go back to the crack pipe.”
I see personal attacks are still alive and well on Kyle’s blog. Calling someone a drug user is perfectly acceptable. No need to worry about any reprisal.
Tiberius - pulling the tail of the left AND right when needed
October 9th, 2012
6:29 pm
“First, did I not write that Romney supported a Federal model, therefore your point is false. ”
MarkV, you should really keep track of your own words, son: “The other example shows that for Romney a program providing health coverage to millions of Americans and improved health coverage to more millions, a program based on the one he is proud of,”
“Second, in spite of all the hot air talk from the right about state vs. federal , nobody has ever presented a cogent argument why the type of this program that is successful (according to Romney) in a state would be wrong for the nation.”
I suggest you do an actual analysis of the program in question, MarkV, even if it might be too much for you to handle polysyllabic words.
“The charge that “Obamacare won’t provide healthcare to more people; it will ultimately provide less” is false and ridiculous.”
So let it be written. So let it be done. (According to MarkV) Analysis proves otherwise.
MarkV
October 9th, 2012
6:36 pm
“We’re going to be gifted with a healthcare plan we are forced to purchase, and fined if we don’t, which puportedly covers at least 10 million more people, without adding a single new doctor, but provides for 16,000 new IRS agents, written by a committee whose chairman says he doesn’t understand it, passed by a congress that didn’t read it but exempted themselves from it, and signed by a president who smokes, with funding administered by a treasury chief who didn’t pay his taxes, for which we will be taxed for four years before any benefits take effect, by a government which has already bankrupted social security and medicare, all to be overseen by a surgeon general who is obese and financed by a country that’s broke.”
The above should be shown in classes under the title “How to enter a competition for the most stupid arguments imaginable.”
mike
October 9th, 2012
6:37 pm
I hope you Republicans, Tea Partiers, nut-cases, and way-out freaks enjoy your temporary bounce. I know that you are all dancing around in a circle right now. But, guess what? I won’t make any difference in November. The American public remembers who visited this pain and hardship on them. And, I guarantee you that they won’t forget come November.
JamVet
October 9th, 2012
6:37 pm
Again, this boner is the one that really cracks me up, Kyle:
In other words, if government doesn’t do it, it doesn’t happen. If government doesn’t fund it, it won’t exist.
The truth?
Sure, I’ll be glad to share it with you.
Only about 12 percent of PBS’s funding, funneled through the Corporation of Public Broadcasting, comes from government subsidies.
12%???
The nerve?!
That’s probably higher than Mitt’s effective rate.
LOL…
MarkV
October 9th, 2012
6:48 pm
Tiberius @ 6:29 pm
First of all, I am not your son. If I were, however, I would never admit it, it would be too embarrassing.
“you should really keep track of your own words.”
I am, but you are not. You still have not shown, and cannot, where I wrote anything else than that the Affordable Care Acts was based on a program Romney was proud of.
“I suggest you do an actual analysis of the program in question, MarkV, even if it might be too much for you to handle polysyllabic words.”
Apart from the stupidity about polysyllabic words, so typical for you, Tiberius, where is the analysis you have done?
ODD OWL
October 9th, 2012
6:50 pm
@ tiberius…. The only thing in the world more dangerous than ignorance is arrogance… (Albert Einstein) Obamacare ==> RomneyCare on steroids…
Tiberius - pulling the tail of the left AND right when needed
October 9th, 2012
6:53 pm
You know you’ve lost the argument when you’ve lost Kirsten Powers.
She just eviscerated the Obama campaign on Fox News for focusing on Big Bird. Brett Baier also referenced other prominent Democrat strategists on “other networks” as doing the same.
The Obama campaign is in free-fall.
@@
October 9th, 2012
6:57 pm
AmVet:
Oh and that big yellow guy that Mitt says he likes? He is more popular than Mr Foot-in-mouth himself and the Uppity muslim
Your heart’s desire can be found on Sesame Street DVDs.
Big Bird’s probably in all of ‘em.
Don’t cry…he’s here for ‘ya.
schnirt
Tiberius - pulling the tail of the left AND right when needed
October 9th, 2012
6:58 pm
“where is the analysis you have done?”
Simple stuff, MarkV, even for you.
Take the amount of the fine an employer is going to pay per person for not providing health care. Then take the per person average contribution to health care each employer makes. Subtract the lower number from the higher number to get your amount that companies will save by dumping health care coverage.
Now, take the “tax” that individuals are going to pay if they do not carry insurance under Obamacare. Subtract that from the total cost of health care per person per year they now pay or will pay. The difference is the amount that family will save by not buying health care.
In EVERY case, the fine/”tax” is smaller than the cost to provide healthcare.
Hillbilly D
October 9th, 2012
6:58 pm
@@
Thanks for the Merle link. Just got through watching it.
Tiberius - pulling the tail of the left AND right when needed
October 9th, 2012
7:00 pm
“The American public remembers who visited this pain and hardship on them.”
40 years of liberal polices?
I know I remember who visited this pain and hardship.
JamVet
October 9th, 2012
7:01 pm
Hey, great news guys!
The odds for Barry staying at 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue have slipped!
In fact they have fallen precipitously (kinda like a free fall)
A few days ago the odds were
BHO – 98%
WMR – 2%
Now?
BHO – 94%
WMR – 6%
YIKES!
But never fear, he’s found the secret weapon!
http://www.republicansforobama.org/
Tiberius - pulling the tail of the left AND right when needed
October 9th, 2012
7:05 pm
Nice deflection, AmVet. Too bad you can’t actually debate the issue Kyle brought up.
Wait! I know why you’re worried about PBS losing taxpayer handouts. You’re out of a job if Sesame Street goes under, because they’ll no longer need Oscar the Grouch!
Tiberius - pulling the tail of the left AND right when needed
October 9th, 2012
7:07 pm
Republicans for Obama probably has about 1/100th of the amount of people in their membership rolls as Ralph Nader got votes in Idaho in 2000.
Rafe Hollister, suffering through Oblamer's ineptocracy
October 9th, 2012
7:17 pm
You have been President of the US for almost 4 years and are running for reelection, and you spend one week of your campaign discussing an 8 foot yellow bird. What does that say about the Obama record. His major accomplishment “Obamacare” is disliked by the voters, and everyone is tired of hearing about “Osama is dead”, so he has nothing to tell the American people as a reason he should be reelected other than “that Romney is going to do away with Big Bird”. He has tried to “define” Romney as a mean spirited money grubbing out of touch rich guy, but America is not buying it. Romney defined himself and shocked Barry, so now he is left with Big Bird, Elmo, and the Cookie Monster. How could any self respecting person, respect this great Mistake.
md
October 9th, 2012
7:22 pm
“The American public remembers who visited this pain and hardship on them. And, I guarantee you that they won’t forget come November.”
I agree, many are actually starting to understand that it wasn’t all Bush’s fault as they’ve been told and are now able to see that even Bush called for the reform of Fannie and Freddie way back in 2001…….and then they also discover that the party of “no” already existed when they wouldn’t allow it…….fast forward 7 years and F&F are in receivership. But I thought they were perfectly sound??
Beyond The Middle of the Road
October 9th, 2012
7:24 pm
I think this point is a wash Kyle. Sure the Dems created an ad for the occasion, and yes Sesame Workshop emphasized their nonpartisanship and asked for the ad to stop. But it was Romney who started the whole shebang by bringing up the PBS point in the first place. The dollar amount in question is such a relative pittance that he must have thought he would score points with the statement.
ODD OWL
October 9th, 2012
7:25 pm
Ideology are for idiots… Middle class Republicans ==> Committed ideologues… I heard a rumor that the left wing liberal, limousine riding Rockefeller Republican Mittens Romney will expand all the social programs.. Is that true ??? The rumor is that Romney will eliminate the tax on S.S. pensions and the medicare tax… I sure hope so…
md
October 9th, 2012
7:27 pm
“Obamacare ==> RomneyCare on steroids…”
I sure wish people would learn the difference between a State program and a Federal one…….at least if folks don’t like the one in the State they can pack their bags for a more ideological resting place……not quite so easy with the new entitlement program crammed down our throats.
ODD OWL
October 9th, 2012
7:28 pm
Romney/Ryan are disingenuous and intellectually dishonest… They have no integrity and lacks character… Romney/Ryan ==> Shysters in shiny suits…
Rafe Hollister, suffering through Oblamer's ineptocracy
October 9th, 2012
7:28 pm
Gloom, despair and agony on me
deep dark depression, excessive misery
if I didn’t have bad luck, I’d have no luck at all
but Big Bird is gonna save the day for me!
md
October 9th, 2012
7:30 pm
“The dollar amount in question is such a relative pittance that he must have thought he would score points with the statement.”
The dollar amount was irrelevant……the comment pointed out a fundamental difference between the 2 candidates…….one unwilling to pay for unnecessary programs when we are bleeding 1.5T a year with 16T in debt and the other defending such spending………….
Linda
October 9th, 2012
7:32 pm
Odd@6:08, etc. I feel very sorry for you, both for your being misinformed about Romney, but mostly for your inability to see the big picture.
The fed. govt. is broke. All the programs you mentioned are in jeopardy. Obama has done NOTHING to address one problem. His budget was voted down in House 414 to 0 & in the Senate 99 to 0. It included raising all the taxes in his dreams & speeches, on everything & everyone, & would have taken us into oblivion. There is no hope & no change.
Our routine for years was coming home from work & watching the local & natl. news. We are mad as #%$ that we were deceived. You are, too. If you are not seeing what is happening in Europe right now, you are in the dark. It’s the future of America because we are doing the same things they did. Some of the Democratic states are in worse shape than the fed. govt.
There is no way that a flashy career politician can get us out of this trouble. Only a professional businessman like Romney can do it. This is his specialty: taking over companies that are in such bad shape that no bank will loan them a dime & turning about 80% of them into successful companies. He did the same thing to the state of Mass. & for the Olympics. He is allergic to red ink. We are lucky he is willing to take on such a massive job.
Linda
October 9th, 2012
7:36 pm
MarkV@6:36, I listed her credentials. Only a stupid liberal would call her stupid.
JamVet
October 9th, 2012
7:40 pm
…the comment pointed out a fundamental difference between the 2 candidates……. one taking time on the national stage to single out a program that accounts for 1/100th of a percent (!!!!!!) of the federal budget instead of addressing the remaining 99.99%.
Disgraceful pandering by the severely conservative/moderate (Which is it this week?) to the anti-intellectual, Uncle Sam hating, corproate stooge wing of the GOP.
Oh yeah. but I forgot. The dollar amount is irrelevant!
LOL!
Linda
October 9th, 2012
7:42 pm
Beyond@6:36, Please read my comment @4:14. It was a setup.
md
October 9th, 2012
7:44 pm
It’s ok Am, I didn’t expect you to agree that we need to cut spending……..
@@
October 9th, 2012
7:52 pm
AmVet:
Did you know that David Duke’s is a big OWS supporter?
How did THAT happen?
Wasn’t he some big shot in the KKK?
Imagine that…you and David Duke on the same side.
md
October 9th, 2012
7:56 pm
Big Bird was merely an easy example thrown out knowing that the masses may be able to figure it out. When Romney started explaining the unintended consequences of Dodd-Frank, even Obama’s head started spinning and evidently spun all night as all he took away from the entire evening was Big Bird.
Rafe Hollister, suffering through Oblamer's ineptocracy
October 9th, 2012
7:59 pm
AmVet
Gov subsidy for a entity that does not need it, is the first thing you should cut. The Sesame Street enterprise is worth billions. Oscar, Elmo and the Bird could easily find a home most anywhere on the dial if they chose.
With Carter it was the rabid rabbit that did him in, will the big yellow bird serve the same purpose with Obama.
td
October 9th, 2012
8:04 pm
Here is something for all you libs to think about when you go to the ballot box.
“Now, the economy is falling apart and people like me who made all the right decisions and invested in themselves are being forced to bail out all the people who didn’t. The people that overspent their paychecks suddenly feel entitled to the same luxuries that I earned and sacrificed 42 years of my life for. Yes, business ownership has its benefits, but the price I’ve paid is steep and not without wounds. Unfortunately, the costs of running a business have gotten out of control, and let me tell you why: We are being taxed to death and the government thinks we don’t pay enough. We pay state taxes, federal taxes, property taxes, sales and use taxes, payroll taxes, workers compensation taxes and unemployment taxes. I even have to hire an entire department to manage all these taxes. The question I have is this: Who is really stimulating the economy? Is it the Government that wants to take money from those who have earned it and give it to those who have not, or is it people like me who built a company out of his garage and directly employs over 7000 people and hosts over 3 million people per year with a great vacation?
Obviously, our present government believes that taking my money is the right economic stimulus for this country. The fact is, if I deducted 50% of your paycheck you’d quit and you wouldn’t work here. I mean, why should you? Who wants to get rewarded only 50% of their hard work? Well, that’s what happens to me. [...]”
“Business is at the heart of America and always has been. To restart it, you must stimulate business, not kill it. However, the power brokers in Washington believe redistributing wealth is the essential driver of the American economic engine. Nothing could be further from the truth and this is the type of change they want.
So where am I going with all this? It’s quite simple. If any new taxes are levied on me, or my company, as our current President plans, I will have no choice but to reduce the size of this company. Rather than grow this company I will be forced to cut back. This means fewer jobs, less benefits and certainly less opportunity for everyone.
So, when you make your decision to vote, ask yourself, which candidate understands the economics of business ownership and who doesn’t? Whose policies will endanger your job? Answer those questions and you should know who might be the one capable of protecting and saving your job. While the media wants to tell you to believe the “1 percenters” are bad, I’m telling you they are not. They create most of the jobs. If you lose your job, it won’t be at the hands of the “1%”; it will be at the hands of a political hurricane that swept through this country.
You see, I can no longer support a system that penalizes the productive and gives to the unproductive. My motivation to work and to provide jobs will be destroyed, and with it, so will your opportunities. If that happens, you can find me in the Caribbean sitting on the beach, under a palm tree, retired, and with no employees to worry about.
Signed, your boss,
David Siegel
Read more: http://newsbusters.org/blogs/noel-sheppard/2012/10/09/ceo-threatens-fire-employees-if-obama-reelected-and-raises-taxes#ixzz28qkXKPZ8
ODD OWL
October 9th, 2012
8:05 pm
The Republican pollsters are manipulating and skewing the polls in favor of the Romney/Rand/Ryan Republicans…
JamVet
October 9th, 2012
8:07 pm
David Duke, now there was a guy you Republirubes could LOVE!
A KKK background and a rabid McCarthy “I see commies everywhere!” nutjob to boot. Oh and did mention that he went to prison?
The perfect Republican!
And what a segue…
Kyle, speaking of the anti-intellectual wing of the GOP, when are we going to have a thread on global cooling. You know, to take your mind off of the impending reelection of the Uppity Muslim?
(I bet you guys didn’t know that we have a sunspot/climatologist expert in our midst!)
@@
October 9th, 2012
8:08 pm
’scuse me!
Please omit the word “is” after Duke’s.
“Is” is not necessary.
ODD OWL
October 9th, 2012
8:08 pm
The CNN news media people have been relegated to the “belief” system… They don’t seem to know anything factual…. They just believe in stuff…
JamVet
October 9th, 2012
8:09 pm
The Sesame Street enterprise is worth billions. Oscar, Elmo and the Bird could easily find a home most anywhere on the dial if they chose.
Do tell, Rafe Red Herring?
Cite please?
(You never learn, do you?)
I Report (-: You Whine )-: mmm, mmmm, mmmmm! Just sayin...
October 9th, 2012
8:14 pm
See B.S. “news” hasn’t polled a Republican in years, so how far is obozo really in the hole?
Linda
October 9th, 2012
8:14 pm
The problem with Obama is that is doesn’t want to BE the president. He likes to campaign to BE the president & likes to pretend to BE the president.
Obama is a great delegater, getting other people to do the work. He hates meetings, even the daily natl. security briefings. He doesn’t meet with his jobs council or his cabinet members, or members of congress, even the Dem. leadership. He hates making tough decisions & taking tough questions. He hates meeting with the press, except for controlled one-on-on interviews.
Obama loves campaigning, giving speeches with his teleprompter to screaming fans in a controlled crowd, spreading propaganda, dining with the rich Hollywood crowd paying $50,000 per plate to watch him eat.
Obama loves to pretend to be the president. He loves the perks, the White House, the plane, the helicopter, the motorcade, the Secret Service, the trips abroad, the state dinners, the cameras, the lights, the action.
We need a president who actually wants to BE the president.
@@
October 9th, 2012
8:15 pm
Mitt Romney continues to enjoy a post-debate bounce, with not only nationwide polls showing a tightening race, but Romney taking advantage of President Obama losing support among women.
The “lady parts” company with Obama.
schnirt
ODD OWL
October 9th, 2012
8:15 pm
The unemployment rate for White Americans is 6 %… The Unemployment rate for all college graduates is 4 %… There is steady growth across all sectors of the economy… Your complaints about the economy being on the verge of collapse is factually incorrect… Why don’t you state your real reason for being anti Obama, huh ???
Del
October 9th, 2012
8:19 pm
“The Republican pollsters are manipulating and skewing the polls in favor of the Romney/Rand/Ryan Republicans…”
That sounds ODD
@@
October 9th, 2012
8:21 pm
Exactly how much is the “Sesame Street” brand worth? According to Forbes, $515 million.
Now let’s watch AmVet make a big deal out of the millions vs billions.
ODD OWL
October 9th, 2012
8:26 pm
More news from the grapevine… The left wing leaning, liberal, limousine riding, Rockefeller Romney/Ryan Republicans are going to re-re form welfare, medicaid and food stamps… The liberal Romney said that he will not only eliminate the welfare work requirement, but he intends to eliminate all the changes made to welfare system by the Newt Gingrich Republicans and go back to the old, generous Rockefeller welfare system… Mittens Romney also said that he will increase medicaid payments to doctors, hospitals and nursing homes and expand the food stamps program significantly…
Rafe Hollister, suffering through Oblamer's ineptocracy
October 9th, 2012
8:26 pm
Big Bird has been occupying public television for 43 years, yet he’s definitely part of the 1 percent.
Big Bird is richer than Mitt Romney. Sesame Workshop (successor to Children’s Television Workshop), reported to the IRS a $356-million net worth as of June 30, 2011, compared to Romney’s estimated worth of about $250-million.
Read more on Newsmax.com: Big Bird Is Richer Than Romney
Important: Do You Support Pres. Obama’s Re-Election? Vote Here Now!
getalife
October 9th, 2012
8:27 pm
@@,
So, how much is the subsidy for PBS?
Rafe Hollister, suffering through Oblamer's ineptocracy
October 9th, 2012
8:29 pm
AmVet
Didn’t know I needed a cite, most intelligent people are aware of whats going on in the news. This has been talked about ad nauseum, thanks to Barry’s Big Bird Brain Dead Relection Strategy.
getalife
October 9th, 2012
8:30 pm
“big deal out of the millions vs billions.”
@@,
You cons are not very good at math.
“See B.S. “news” hasn’t polled a Republican in years”
See.
Hillbilly D
October 9th, 2012
8:30 pm
Isn’t it about time that PETA steps in and demands that Big Bird be set free?
JamVet
October 9th, 2012
8:31 pm
…make a big deal out of the millions vs billions.
Republican math, attention to detail and fiscal conservatism (LOL) on display!!!
You really do make this way too easy…
Rafe Hollister, suffering through Oblamer's ineptocracy
October 9th, 2012
8:31 pm
The “lady parts” company with Obama.
I guess you need those to really appreciate Obama, or maybe not.
getalife
October 9th, 2012
8:34 pm
“Isn’t it about time that PETA steps in and demands that Big Bird be set free?”
A Pamela Anderson ad giving Big Bird some love would be nice.
JamVet
October 9th, 2012
8:34 pm
You’re right, Rafe. Knowing what you speak of before you write something is so 1970s.
Citations are not necessary when you don’t give a whit about the veracity of your claims.
Or lack thereof…
iggy
October 9th, 2012
8:35 pm
“Your complaints about the economy being on the verge of collapse is factually incorrect…”
Thats precious.
@@
October 9th, 2012
8:39 pm
Getalife:
Are you AmVet?
Sesame Street is the 10th largest marketable bround in the WORLD. I don’t think we need to subsidize THAT!!!!
Have you gathered up my comments yet?
I’m still waiting.
===========================
The problem with Obama is that is doesn’t want to BE the president.
That thought crossed my mind while watching the debates….”Is this guy throwing the match?”
Anyhoo, it would play right into the Democrat Party’s racist game.
They could’ve nominated a more experienced black candidate, but
n-o-o-o-ooo…Obama was “their boy”. Subversively racist, those dems.
Just a thought.
@@
October 9th, 2012
8:39 pm
Oops AGAIN! “bround” should be brand.
Rafe Hollister, suffering through Oblamer's ineptocracy
October 9th, 2012
8:40 pm
Amvet
I have just been listening to Barry too long, he says millionaires and billionaires simultaneously about 50 times a day. To him they are all the same, EVIL, so I guess I fell under his spell. Looks like he might be freeing up some TV bandwidth after Nov 6.
Hillbilly D
October 9th, 2012
8:45 pm
”Is this guy throwing the match?”
Can a baby face turn heel in politics? (See if anybody gets that reference)
Rafe Hollister, suffering through Oblamer's ineptocracy
October 9th, 2012
8:48 pm
I meant Sesame Street is worth a half billion (Obama style revision). It was the proof readers fault!
So, bottom line, they should be loaning money to the broke government, instead of holding their hand out for a subsidy.
@@
October 9th, 2012
8:48 pm
Obama can’t even remember how much debt we have. Came right out and said as much on David Letterman.
iggy
October 9th, 2012
8:48 pm
“The problem with Obama is that is doesn’t want to BE the president.
Like the drunken murderer Ted Kennedy, Obama doesnt want to be President, he just doesnt anyone else being President.
Linda
October 9th, 2012
8:48 pm
td@8:04, Unbelievable! Thanks for sharing. Wonder how many other employers are thinking the same thing.
JDW
October 9th, 2012
8:50 pm
@Tiberius…”The difference is the amount that family will save by not buying health care.”
Unless of course they get sick and need health insurance…which is after all the point.
iggy
October 9th, 2012
8:51 pm
td
October 9th, 2012
8:04 pm
Its time for big business to run the Obama FunBus into the ditch. Lets hope more employers will take such a stance.
td
October 9th, 2012
8:53 pm
Linda
October 9th, 2012
8:48 pm
td@8:04, Unbelievable! Thanks for sharing. Wonder how many other employers are thinking the same thing.
According to the DOL last week the country has added nearly 800,000 part time jobs in the last few months. I am wondering if anyone has researched why and now if this has something to do with it?
@@
October 9th, 2012
8:55 pm
Hillbilly:
(See if anybody gets that reference)
Linda McMahon would.
More of a boxing fan myself.
Rafe Hollister, suffering through Oblamer's ineptocracy
October 9th, 2012
8:57 pm
This is absolutely funny, we are less than a month away from a pivotal election and we are stuck on discussing the intimate details of Big Bird. You can’t make this stuff up. Next, they will make a movie describing how the election turned. Urkle will be the star and the title………..
PANIC Rides a Big Bird!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11111
JDW
October 9th, 2012
8:57 pm
@td…you do realize of course that “Newsbusters” is a pseudo news organization comprised of right wing lunatics and not worthy of serious consideration don’t you…of course not, you watch Faux News for “Fair and Balanced” news.
Linda
October 9th, 2012
9:00 pm
iggy@8:51, When was the last time anyone looked under the Obama FunBus to see who else he has thrown underneath it? Might be too late! Might be roadkill by now, eaten by @@’s dog.
iggy
October 9th, 2012
9:00 pm
I think Obama is beginning to realize that being President requires mass quantities of intelligence along with hard work, common sense, long hours, negotiating skills and that its not all fun, parties and playtime.
This being the case he wants out. Obama knows he is a slacker and that community organizing is his thing. Yes a job with zero accountability would suit him much better.
His pitiful appeal, at the debates, for “your vote” was just plain sad. Well, yes and Stupid…
JamVet
October 9th, 2012
9:04 pm
have just been listening to Barry too long…
That might explain it.
Turn off the corporate stupidvison and read something …
td
October 9th, 2012
9:08 pm
JDW
October 9th, 2012
8:57 pm
@td…you do realize of course that “Newsbusters” is a pseudo news organization comprised of right wing lunatics and not worthy of serious consideration don’t you…of course not, you watch Faux News for “Fair and Balanced” news.
I am pretty sure this one is legit since Bookman is currently running the same story as a blog entry and he works for the reliable left AJC.
Lil' Barry Bailout - Vote American
October 9th, 2012
9:13 pm
“The voters aren’t looking for the guy they’d most like to attend a beer summit with. They’re looking for the guy who can run the country more effectively.”
——————
Well, the intelligent ones are. The ObozoPhone voters less so.
Vote for competence.
Vote American.
JamVet
October 9th, 2012
9:14 pm
But we DO need to subsidize Apple, Kraft, IBM, Google, McDonalds, Microsoft, Coca Cola, AT&T, Verizon, GE and Walmart.
Desperately.
With staggering amounts of annual subsidies that not just dwarfs the $25Million (That is with an M, you fiscal conservatives!) allocated to PBS, it is in the hundreds of billions (That is with a B, you new math cons!) every single year.
You see they are winners!
And PBS is a loser.
And we love picking our winners and losers!
Linda
October 9th, 2012
9:16 pm
JDW@8:57, So, Newsbusters isn’t believable & therefore the letter isn’t believable? Source? Proof?
And the Dems. who appear on FOX News, fair & balanced, aren’t believable & therefore the American people who watch FOX News are not entitled to hear ALL the stories or BOTH SIDES of the stories.
And MSNBC & the rest of the corrupt alphabet media are fair & balanced?
You are fair & balanced?
@@
October 9th, 2012
9:16 pm
I wonder if AmVet has this one in his library.
Big Bird Can Share.
mike
October 9th, 2012
9:16 pm
It just makes sense. Why wouldn’t you want to end a subsidy to PBS? After all it represents 1/100th of one percent of our federal budget. It also represents just 6 hours of Pentagon spending. Waste pure and simple.
Rafe Hollister, suffering through Oblamer's ineptocracy
October 9th, 2012
9:18 pm
AmVet
Turn off the corporate stupidvison and read something …
I read three books in an hour this morning.
1. How I have helped America by Barack Obama
2. Elections, how I was so successful by Ralph Nader
3. The Liberal Guide to Budgeting by Nancy Pelosi
JamVet
October 9th, 2012
9:21 pm
Rafe, you haven’t read a book since you left (graduated?) high school.
And it shows…
JDW
October 9th, 2012
9:22 pm
@td…”I am pretty sure this one is legit since Bookman is currently running the same story as a blog entry and he works for the reliable left AJC”
O’ Dear…I must admit I never got by the Newsbusters tag to even read the story…David Segal…
Now it just so happens I know David…quite well…the man is a fruitcake. He did in fact build a timeshare company and make a bunch of money. Thankfully for David he has a few really good Execs that keep it running because the man is now certifiably insane. BTW…he doesn’t exactly fall into the “Family Values” segment of the population…he and that little blond on his lap (which is a story unto itself) do shall we say…get around. Their parties would make Romans blush.
@@
October 9th, 2012
9:22 pm
HEY!
Big Bird gets a shovel and a pail in that story.
Big Bird wakes early, and sees a brand-new pail and shovel on his mailbox. He’s puzzled by the tag, which reads “Dear Big Bird, I think you’ll know what to do with this! Love, Granny Bird.”
A shovel and a pail?
Pretty apropos, considering.
Rafe Hollister, suffering through Oblamer's ineptocracy
October 9th, 2012
9:24 pm
Mike,
After all it represents 1/100th of one percent of our federal budget. It also represents just 6 hours of Pentagon spending.
Why is not extending the Obama tax cuts for the rich so important to Obama. Only raises something like 70 B a year. How many hours of Pentagon spending will that take care of? Insignificant amount, it will not even fund his “green energy boondoggles” that he spent $90B on.
Linda
October 9th, 2012
9:25 pm
Obama’s debate “performance” was the same thing he did in the Ill. Senate & the US Senate, where he voted Present.
He was merely “present” for the debate.
Didn’t he get a “message” from Michelle during his “performance?”
He was a different guy the next day on the stump with his teleprompter back in place. What a great reader!
JDW
October 9th, 2012
9:26 pm
@Linda…”So, Newsbusters isn’t believable & therefore the letter isn’t believable? ”
Google is your friend…they are Right Wing fruitcakes and now that I realize David Segal is involved the whole thing is surreal.
BTW…if you can…shall we say “measure up” I can arrange an invite to one of his parties. They are something to behold.
Rafe Hollister, suffering through Oblamer's ineptocracy
October 9th, 2012
9:28 pm
And we love picking our winners and losers!
As Romney said, Obama only picks the losers.
mike
October 9th, 2012
9:30 pm
rafe: ALL of the Bush tax cuts should be allowed to expire. Along with drastic cuts to the world’s most bloated military industrial complex.
We cannot continue to print $1,000,000,000,000.00+/yr.
The “muslim” “enemy” is starting to show some signs of wear. Who will be the next enemy? My money’s on the Chinese.
You remember that we have to have an enemy, don’t you?
Lil' Barry Bailout - Vote American
October 9th, 2012
9:34 pm
“But we DO need to subsidize Apple, Kraft, IBM, Google, McDonalds, Microsoft, Coca Cola, AT&T, Verizon, GE and Walmart.”
——————–
How so? Examples of such subsidies would further the debate here…
And I wonder how many jobs those corporations provide, compared to PBS?
Lil' Barry Bailout - Vote American
October 9th, 2012
9:35 pm
Enter your comments here
mike
October 9th, 2012
9:35 pm
I would be willing to bet that if each American family received a $5,000 – 10,000/year “supplemental” tax bill, the wars in Iraq, Afghanistan and prospects for future wars in Syria and Iran would come to a screeching halt.
Unfortunately, our government simply prints $1,000,000,000,000.00 a year to cover the costs.
Rafe Hollister, suffering through Oblamer's ineptocracy
October 9th, 2012
9:35 pm
rafe: ALL of the Bush tax cuts should be allowed to expire. Along with drastic cuts to the world’s most bloated military industrial complex.
Boy, that would be something. In this economy, raising taxes on the downtrodden middle class, would delay the recovery for another decade. What would the real unemployment rate be…25% or so?
@@
October 9th, 2012
9:36 pm
Why is not extending the Obama tax cuts for the rich so important to Obama.
Because it provides happiness to his supporters?
JamVet
October 9th, 2012
9:36 pm
Obama only picks the losers.
Ironic, considering that you are going to vote for one, huh?!
Better luck in 2024…
Lil' Barry Bailout - Vote American
October 9th, 2012
9:36 pm
“You remember that we have to have an enemy, don’t you?”
——————
Obozo and other libtards think it’s productive Americans.
JamVet
October 9th, 2012
9:42 pm
“How so?”
Incredible.
When it comes to playing stupid, big-time, major league playing stupid, you have to stand in awe of the all-time champions of feigned ignorance and fake bewilderment, post-Nixon Republicans.
No contest.
mike
October 9th, 2012
9:43 pm
” In this economy, raising taxes on the downtrodden middle class, would delay the recovery for another decade. What would the real unemployment rate be…25% or so?”
rafe: agreed. However, we are like drug addicts putting off the day of reckoning. Eventually, like it or not, it will come.
iggy
October 9th, 2012
9:46 pm
Obama knows nothing about hard work and thats why he hates normal Americans. Wonder when he will institute the UN Tax code on us all?
iggy
October 9th, 2012
9:48 pm
“What would the real unemployment rate be…25% or so?”
We need to cut and run from the EU, someway/somehow. Then bite the bullet and get it overwith as postponing the inevitable it like the Dutch Tulip Bulb fiasco.
mike
October 9th, 2012
9:51 pm
iggy: President Barack Obama has a law degree from Harvard Law School. I think he knows a little about hard work. What do you have?
iggy
October 9th, 2012
9:53 pm
A law degree? I knew, for some reason, he reminded me of Ken “One call thats all” Nugent.
Having a degree and actually using the knowledge gained from a degree and Worlds apart.
iggy
October 9th, 2012
9:55 pm
Obama is to the USA as Caligula was to Rome or Andy Kaufman was to his audience.
Utter and complete contempt.
PS…Kaufman, one must admit, was a genius.
mike
October 9th, 2012
9:55 pm
Speaking of hard work. Here’s a fellow who knows what hard work is!
http://0.tqn.com/d/politicalhumor/1/0/1/c/bush_hard_work_rosie.jpg
RW-(the original)
October 9th, 2012
9:56 pm
As Romney said, Obama only picks the losers.
To be fair that’s not really an Obama phenomenon. If the government has to subsidize something for it to exist it’s pretty much always a loser.
iggy
October 9th, 2012
9:57 pm
Ketchup Boy…LOL!
Linda
October 9th, 2012
9:57 pm
JDW@9:26, You totally evaded the questions. Nothing you said is relevant. What is relevant is that an employer of 7000 people is telling his workers that their jobs, benefits & opportunities are in jeopardy if Obama is re-elected.
That’s the truth. That’s the situation from every company across America, whether the CEO or owner is telling their employees or not, whether the company is incorporated or not, whether the company employs 7000 people or 50.
I believe that Obama is systematically, intentionally destroying the US economy. No one could be that stupid. He knows exactly what he is doing.
RW-(the original)
October 9th, 2012
9:58 pm
Speaking of losers…
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2215173/Obama-believed-beaten-Romney-Denver-debate-ignoring-advice-aides.html
Hillbilly D
October 9th, 2012
9:59 pm
I knew, for some reason, he reminded me of Ken “One call thats all” Nugent.
I’d like to see that guy in a cage match with John “The Strong Arm” Foy.
@@
October 9th, 2012
10:00 pm
AmVet:
Did you know that Rocky’s Justice Party isn’t listed among the major third party sites?
He’s got his own blog. You should go over there and comment since nobody else is.
mike
October 9th, 2012
10:01 pm
“If the government has to subsidize something for it to exist it’s pretty much always a loser.”
RW: PBS receives approximately 12% of its budget from the federal government. Somehow I think they can make do without it.
But let us always try to pick the “speck” out of our neighbor’s eye and ignore the military industrial complex plank in our own.
iggy
October 9th, 2012
10:01 pm
“I believe that Obama is systematically, intentionally destroying the US economy. No one could be that stupid. He knows exactly what he is doing”
You, my friend, are Spot-On!! Its completely intentional. After he destroys the USA, he then will seek to be appoointed King of the World.
He wants to tear out the bottom and being the entire house crashing down. Then rebuild a communists State. That is his goal.
RW-(the original)
October 9th, 2012
10:02 pm
Winner takes on Morgan and Morgan, “For the People”
RW-(the original)
October 9th, 2012
10:03 pm
Somehow I think they can make do without it
Whatever would make you think I disagree with that?
Hillbilly D
October 9th, 2012
10:06 pm
Winner takes on Morgan and Morgan, “For the People”
Wouldn’t that be a 2 on 1, handicap match?
ragnar danneskjold
October 9th, 2012
10:08 pm
First Children’s Television Workshop tells Obama to quit using Big Bird in his ads, and then the State Department throws Obama under the bus over the “video caused the Libya riot” lie.
iggy
October 9th, 2012
10:09 pm
In and attempt to bolster his foreign policy stance, Obama and the 57 States of the USA are, at any moment, going to invade, rape and pillage the Country of Rhode Island.
RW-(the original)
October 9th, 2012
10:09 pm
Wouldn’t that be a 2 on 1, handicap match?
The Morgans are handicapped by having a big M and a little organ, but if you insist we’ll let Mr. Wrestling #7 join your team.
JamVet
October 9th, 2012
10:10 pm
If the government has to subsidize something for it to exist it’s pretty much always a loser.
BIG oil, BIG pharma, Big HMOs, BIG agribusiness, BIG DoD contractors and BIG, BIG, BIG banks are not amused…
Linda
October 9th, 2012
10:11 pm
mike(with a little m)@9:51, Prove that Obama has a law degree from the Harvard Law School. For that matter, prove that Obama went to Occidental College or Columbia University. See my comment @3:12.
Tell us who his college classmates, his professors or his buddies were. Tell us who Obama’s neighbors & friends were. Tell us about his family reunions.
ragnar danneskjold
October 9th, 2012
10:12 pm
David Burge: “it took a lot of butter knives in a lot of electrical outlets to make Joe Biden the man he is today.”
ragnar danneskjold
October 9th, 2012
10:13 pm
David Burge: “Austrian daredevil announces attempt at first supersonic freefall plummet to Earth; Obama: “too late”"
ragnar danneskjold
October 9th, 2012
10:15 pm
David Burge: “t will be a great day when our ambassadors have the security they need and millionaire government TV muppets have to hold a bake sale.”
RW-(the original)
October 9th, 2012
10:16 pm
BIG oil, BIG pharma, Big HMOs, BIG agribusiness, BIG DoD contractors and BIG, BIG, BIG banks are not amused…
Have I tapped into some bizarro parallel universe where all the libs suddenly agree with me?
ragnar danneskjold
October 9th, 2012
10:16 pm
Taranto: “At least Jimmy Carter didn’t BASE HIS WHOLE CAMPAIGN on the killer rabbit.”
ragnar danneskjold
October 9th, 2012
10:17 pm
Taranto: “What is the difference between Obama and Big Bird? One is an imaginary flightless bird, and the other is just a puppet.’
iggy
October 9th, 2012
10:18 pm
“That rabbits dynamite. We dare not risk another frontal assault…”
ragnar danneskjold
October 9th, 2012
10:19 pm
Taranto: “”Sesame Street” could easily get by without subsidies if they raised the sponsorship fee they charge letters and numbers.”
Lil' Barry Bailout - Vote American
October 9th, 2012
10:21 pm
JamVet: When it comes to playing stupid
———————
And yet you couldn’t provide one example of subsidies to the job creators you cited…
ragnar danneskjold
October 9th, 2012
10:21 pm
Taranto: “Just got an Obama campaign email offering “training” in “how to talk about the issues.” These people are beyond parody.”
iggy
October 9th, 2012
10:22 pm
Perhaps like Caligula, Obama will attempt to appoint his horse, Michelle, to the Senate.
Linda
October 9th, 2012
10:23 pm
mike (with a little m)@10:01, Do you know how much money the fed. govt. would save if there was a law that laws could not be passed that involved billions, let alone trillions of dollars? If we had a law that laws could only be passed that involve millions or mere thousands, we could divert our path away from mass destruction.
JDW
October 9th, 2012
10:23 pm
@Linda…what’s relevant is the man is a fruitcake and frankly so are you. T
here is an actual Executive Team that runs Westgate and will work through the issues. Fact is like many real estate companies Westgate over extended themselves but you can rest assured that the professional management in charge will not lay people off as a result of elections. They will make informed business decisions based on demand and available resources.
@@
October 9th, 2012
10:23 pm
So I’ve been contemplating what Ryan’s approach to Biden should be. I wouldn’t go the attack route.
How about “Seriously, Joe.” OR “Seriously, Joe?”
Linda
October 9th, 2012
10:26 pm
iggy@10:01, We’re not supposed to say this out loud.
I Report (-: You Whine )-: mmm, mmmm, mmmmm! Just sayin...
October 9th, 2012
10:27 pm
On the conference call convened by aides in Denver and Chicago even as the candidates were still on stage, there was no debate in the Obama campaign about the debate. None of the advisers fooled themselves into thinking it was anything but a disaster. Instead, they scrambled for ways to recover. They resolved to go after Mr. Romney with a post-debate assault on his truthfulness. Ad makers were ordered to work all night to produce an attack ad. And they would seize on Mr. Romney’s vow to cut financing for Big Bird. – NY Times
Which, of course, is something your average dummycrat can understand.
uh, cookie monster, duh.
iggy
October 9th, 2012
10:27 pm
Hmmm…Ryan should provoke Biden cuz the VP is spoiling for a fight. Joe wants to come to the rescue for Obama. Let Ryan lay back, play daddyCool, get Joe all redFaced then move in for the kill.
“Elementary My Dear Watson.”
@@
October 9th, 2012
10:28 pm
“Seriously, Joe…how can you be out there ranting about corporations, when this is taking place in your state?”
How Delaware Thrives as a Corporate Tax Haven
schnirt
iggy
October 9th, 2012
10:30 pm
True Linda, however, Obama has his “one world govt” leanings and believes the USA, and other industrial “rich” nations should be taxed to the “nth” degree in order to support Zimbawbwe and/or other suicidal hell holes.
RW-(the original)
October 9th, 2012
10:30 pm
How about “Seriously, Joe.” OR “Seriously, Joe?”
Or…”Wow Joe, I know you’ve been a DC insider since shortly after the founding, but that really isn’t what I think they meant”
ODD OWL
October 9th, 2012
10:34 pm
Fox Fantasy News and CNN, the cable narrative news network continue ask the question; Why the banks will not loan busineses, especially small businesses money so they can expand their businesses, buy new equipment and hire a litney of workers to service all of those customers ??? If you listen to Fox and CNN, they would have you believe that customers must wait in long lines at every store they patronize because the businesses simply cannot get bank loans to hire new workers… Someone need to pull the coattails of Fox and CNN and tell them that the only reason businesses are not expanding, buying new equipment and hiring new workers is because businesses don’t have any customers… The Federal and state Governments must provide some stimulus money for the customers, so they can buy stuff and spur economic growth…
@@
October 9th, 2012
10:36 pm
OR…”Seriously, Joe…shouldn’t you put a plug in that tax haven or are you too plugged in to the haven?”
@@
October 9th, 2012
10:36 pm
Hi, RW.
(ISH)
iggy
October 9th, 2012
10:37 pm
Dan Fogelberg/Tim Wiesberg – Twin Sons of Differnt Mothers? I THINK NOT!!
Jimmy Carter/Barack Obama – Twins Sons of Different Mothers? Absolutely!!
getalife
October 9th, 2012
10:39 pm
The headline at drudge is Big Bird.
America is laughing at mitt.
mitt is too weak to be President. Period.
jconservative
October 9th, 2012
10:39 pm
Kyle at 5:50 PM – “jconservative: Ahem. If I remember correctly, you said you voted for Romney in the primary specifically because you thought he could pull the moderate, independent votes needed to beat Obama. Which was a fair enough point. But how else did you expect him to pull those votes?”
1. You remember correctly.
2. By remaining a conservative. By offering a choice. Why change if we replace one liberal with another? Romney spent 4 years creating a conservative agenda. In the last 10 days he has completely rejected that agenda. How will he govern?
His foreign policy speech the other day could have been written by Obama’s speechwriter. His remarks in the debate sound like Obama speeches over the years.
How do you expect him to win? Do you believe it is necessary to move to the left to beat Obama?
JamVet
October 9th, 2012
10:44 pm
Lil BB, if I provide five irrefutable examples of subsidies to major American corporations (which would take about five minutes of my time), will you acknowledge to this forum that you are a play stupid to perfection troll?
No?
How about ten?
md
October 9th, 2012
10:44 pm
Pretty interesting when your own State Dept tries to distance itself from your administration…….sounds like someone is saying hell no, you aren’t going to point that finger at me…..
getalife
October 9th, 2012
10:45 pm
Joe is a pit bull angry about what has happened to the middle class.
It will be the best debate.
getalife
October 9th, 2012
10:47 pm
md,
The gop congress cut their funding. The finger points to the gop congress.
RW-(the original)
October 9th, 2012
10:47 pm
Hi @@
(ISH)
Is Semper looking?
(IW&SH)
iggy
October 9th, 2012
10:48 pm
“Joe is a pit bull angry about what has happened to the middle class.”
Especially over the most recent 4 years.
Linda
October 9th, 2012
10:48 pm
JDW@10:23, What’s wrong with fruitcake? Some people love it!
Your comment was a little garbled. I understand. It’s late & you are desperate, the liberal you are.
Again, you claim relevance. It’s irrelevant that the company over-extended.
The facts are exactly what Siegel stated in his letter. Companies will be forced to lay off employees if Obama is re-elected & if his policies are allowed to stand.
Your line of demand is a liberal fairy tale & has no bearing in the real world of economics, for which I have a degree.
md
October 9th, 2012
10:49 pm
“The Federal and state Governments must provide some stimulus money for the customers, so they can buy stuff and spur economic growth…”
Now make up your mind, are we keeping the tax cuts or not??
A tax cut is a stimulus plan that skips the middleman………the gov’t.
getalife
October 9th, 2012
10:51 pm
“Especially over the most recent 4 years.”
Yeah, ryan’s voting record will show it was a mistake to pick ryan.
This guy voted to end SS and Medicare.
mitt’s decision skills are awful.
md
October 9th, 2012
10:52 pm
“The gop congress cut their funding. The finger points to the gop congress.”
Yeh, I’ve heard that weenie argument……and if that was the case, a good manager would know how to reallocate resources. Pull a few marines out of the hotspots like Paris and London and put them in Benghazi……
getalife
October 9th, 2012
10:53 pm
Then ryan voted no on another middle class tax cut.
getalife
October 9th, 2012
10:55 pm
md,
Iraq and Afghanistan remember.
The war in Libya was over.
That dog don’t hunt md.
iggy
October 9th, 2012
10:55 pm
Doesnt matter. Obama must go.
JamVet
October 9th, 2012
10:56 pm
Fogelberg was awesome.
A powerful voice for the antiwar, environmental and other liberals causes.He was solidly pro-worker, pro-Democratic Party, pro-children and pro-middle class.
He raised nearly $50,000 from his appearance for Democrat Bruce Babbitt’s 1982 gubernatorial re-election campaign in Arizona.
The anti-Republican.
I’m surprised igs ever even heard of him…
@@
October 9th, 2012
10:57 pm
Joe is a pit bull angry about what has happened to the middle class.
While allowing his state to shelter “the enemy” Getalife?
In these troubled economic times, when many states are desperate for tax dollars, Delaware stands out in sharp relief. The First State, land of DuPont, broiler chickens and, as it happens, Vice President Joseph R. Biden Jr., increasingly resembles a freewheeling offshore haven, right on America’s shores. Officials in other states complain that Delaware’s cozy corporate setup robs their states of billions of tax dollars.
I
don’t
think
so.
I Report (-: You Whine )-: mmm, mmmm, mmmmm! Just sayin...
October 9th, 2012
10:57 pm
I’m pretty sure that it is dawning on the dummycrat party apparatchik that o’biden will most likely look the fool come tomorrow night. Then what? Will they screech that Ryan lied? That he cheated?
Are you that stupid?
getalife
October 9th, 2012
10:59 pm
“PELOSI: It’s also important to note that the Republican appropriation in Congress gave the administration $300 million less than it asked for for the State Department, including funding for security. ”
Busted.
Linda
October 9th, 2012
11:00 pm
iggy@10:30, You are my new best friend. The truth will come out one day, but it might be too late. Isn’t it funny that Jarrett has been grooming both of them for over 20 years & has her own Secret Service detail? Wonder how Soros plays into this scenario. Inquiring minds want to know.
getalife
October 9th, 2012
11:01 pm
” Will they screech that Ryan lied? That he cheated?”
Nah, corporate media will fixate on something Joe said and call it a gaffe.
They are on your team.
You know that.
getalife
October 9th, 2012
11:02 pm
@@,
They bring State revenue.
I Report (-: You Whine )-: mmm, mmmm, mmmmm! Just sayin...
October 9th, 2012
11:03 pm
Every thing o’biden says will be a “gaffe.”
hahahaha
getalife
October 9th, 2012
11:04 pm
Linda,
Jarrett, Soros, tin foil hat much?
I Report (-: You Whine )-: mmm, mmmm, mmmmm! Just sayin...
October 9th, 2012
11:05 pm
Did y’all poke some eyeholes in your paper bags? This coming ass whoopin is something you don’t want to miss.
Historical.
iggy
October 9th, 2012
11:05 pm
Gimme Gimme Gimme
October 9th, 2012
11:05 pm
“Joe is a pit bull angry about what has happened to the middle class.”
What happened was career politicians like Biden who have been warned that we needed to address some of these issues years ago.
Now the chickens have come home to roost.
getalife
October 9th, 2012
11:06 pm
Every thing o’biden says will be a “gaffe.”
Watch corporate media spin after the debate and they will find some words to call it a gaffe.
ODD OWL
October 9th, 2012
11:07 pm
Romney is to liberal for America… Vote O’bama…
getalife
October 9th, 2012
11:09 pm
If our President is so bad why do you have to lie and run away from your positions?
Why are the numbers so close?
If all that crap you say is true, you should be up by 30 points?
Are y’all lying to me?
Gimme Gimme Gimme
October 9th, 2012
11:11 pm
Thank goodness for Bernanke. At least he has aided the recovery while Obama went to fundraiser’s and golfed.
md
October 9th, 2012
11:13 pm
get…..we have a separate marine force for diplomatic missions……as I said, resource allocation……read the latest story about Secretary Charlene lamb denying those resources because she thought Stevens would be just hunky dorry because he had a “safe” room.
Someone needs to send her over there and let her hide in that room without security.
http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/10/09/us-libya-usa-idUSBRE89815N20121009
getalife
October 9th, 2012
11:14 pm
Bernanke is your friend now?
Unemployment is his responsibility and when congress can’t pass a jobs bill he is left with one choice.
Qe1, 2,3,. gop built that.
Gimme Gimme Gimme
October 9th, 2012
11:15 pm
Obama “you didn’t build that”
getalife
October 9th, 2012
11:16 pm
md,
I watched that tea party pol squirm with that answer on cnn.
Way to hold your accountable md.
getalife
October 9th, 2012
11:17 pm
party.
i
the secret
October 9th, 2012
11:17 pm
How is Willard going to cut taxes, keep social spending the same and increase spending on the military – all things he says he’s going to do. You can’t balance the budget by simply cutting PBS – only an idiot would think that.
Gimme Gimme Gimme
October 9th, 2012
11:17 pm
Did debbie wasserman schultz speak today? If she did she lied, she always does.
@@
October 9th, 2012
11:17 pm
Getalife:
Busted.
Everything I’ve read indicates Congress asked a simple question. “How will it be spent?”
According to the State Department, the fund was meant to support emerging democracies in places like Egypt, Tunisia, and Libya…nothing about security.
A serious discussion never materialized.
I’m outta here.
Gimme Gimme Gimme
October 9th, 2012
11:18 pm
Democrat’s war on truth.
Hillbilly D
October 9th, 2012
11:18 pm
The First State, land of DuPont, broiler chickens and,
Have to cry fowl on that one. Everybody knows that Gainesville is the Broiler Capitol of the World.
md
October 9th, 2012
11:20 pm
“He said that Deputy Assistant Secretary (for international programs) Lamb believed the Benghazi post did not need any Diplomatic Security Special Agents because there was a residential safe haven to fall back to in an emergency, but that she thought the best course of action was to assign three agents,” the memo said.”
Must be comforting to our diplomats in these hotspots to know that they have a nice room they can hide/die in when their building is being pummeled by mortars and rpg’s………..
getalife
October 9th, 2012
11:20 pm
Tell you reps to cut big oil welfare they don’t need.
Man up, get serious.
Cutting PBS is weak, lets cut billions.
Raising defense 2 trillion is not cutting cons.
You party is not serious and laughing at you.
getalife
October 9th, 2012
11:21 pm
md,
It was peaceful. The war was over and daffy is dead. Facts.
Old Timer
October 9th, 2012
11:22 pm
Without a teleprompter, with words written by someone else Obama is lost while thinking his Muslim bubble is going to bust. The guy does not have the United States at heart. He is following the 1930’s Roosevelt doctrine that was failing right and left, including trying to stack the supreme court until World War II came long. I was there and the current erepopulation does not know what hardship is. There were no food stamps, no unemployment checks or social security checks. We lived by the railraod tracks and I watched my grandmother feed alot of hobo’s with our food scraps. Our country needs an attitude adjustment. Give Romney a chance, we have seen what Obama could do in the past four years. Without the teleprompter he is lost.
Cutty
October 9th, 2012
11:23 pm
Although I rarely agree with your views, I always tried to respect you and your forum.
When Barry met Big Bird? Really? At least respect the office the man holds. Wingfield, you’ve become a real arrogant, d*bag since you’ve been here. You’re prime example #1 of how far right your party has become. What a jerk.
getalife
October 9th, 2012
11:23 pm
“A serious discussion never materialized.”
In Congress?
Probably back in the 70’s.
md
October 9th, 2012
11:25 pm
Get…..funny, that isn’t what our boots on the ground are saying…….I guess we’ll find out a bit more in the am after the hearing. I’m guessing the men/women over there in harms way will sing like canaries……..
getalife
October 9th, 2012
11:26 pm
md,
Where is Libyan government located?
iggy
October 9th, 2012
11:29 pm
“He is following the 1930’s Roosevelt doctrine that was failing right and left,”
Agreed. If I recall correctly, and I think I do, Obama stated in so many words, he wants to institute more programs such as those instituted by FDR.
@@
October 9th, 2012
11:29 pm
Let’s see how Biden did in his 2008 debate with Sarah Palin.
Not too well.
The Wanker vs The Wonk.
Now I’m out.
getalife
October 9th, 2012
11:31 pm
md,
Do you know the difference between a embassy and a consulate?
Do you have any idea about the Libyan government?
Linda
October 9th, 2012
11:32 pm
Odd Owl@10:34, You keep trying to engage us when you refused to comment on my comment to you @7:32.
So, now, it’s not just FOX, but CNN who is trying to report on fair & balanced news, & the liberals are beside themselves because they want Americans to stay in the dark on the issues, both sides of the issues & not be allowed to Google the issues to be informed.
I have a degree in economics from one of the largest universities in the US & you are telling us that the problem is demand & that the fed. govt., which has NO MONEY, is the answer to the problem by spending more money that we do not have will lead our way to prosperity.
getalife
October 9th, 2012
11:35 pm
“NO MONEY”
Yeah, if you consider 4 trillion a year in revenue no money.
A degree in economics and you wrote that?
JamVet
October 9th, 2012
11:35 pm
Give Romney a chance.
Nope.
After the toxic Bush/Cheney/Rove/Rumsfeld legacy, it’s not going to happen.
For a raft of reasons.
American voters are not going to just put the cowardly neocons right back in power to get their kids killed needlessly again and their money legally stolen by banksters again.
Mitt is unfit to lead.
And he won’t get the chance.
But better luck in 2016.
Or 2020.
Or 2024.
Or…
MarkV
October 9th, 2012
11:35 pm
Linda @7:36 pm: “MarkV@6:36, I listed her credentials. Only a stupid liberal would call her stupid.”
First, I did not HER stupid. I called and do call her arguments stupid. As a matter of fact, I call them incredibly stupid, and for a supposedly educated person, embarrassingly stupid. It also says something about anybody who defends those stupidities.
getalife
October 9th, 2012
11:38 pm
If you have a degree in economic and say we are broke, I would have to agree with Mark.
Linda
October 9th, 2012
11:39 pm
Conservatives, PLEASE STOP ENGAGING GOTNOLIFE! Ignore him & he might go away.
iggy
October 9th, 2012
11:39 pm
You are stupid! Nuh uh…you are, NO, you are. You are the stupidiest one…
getalife
October 9th, 2012
11:40 pm
I wish I made 4 trillion a year.
getalife
October 9th, 2012
11:42 pm
They would loan me money for zero per cent interest by the trillions.
Linda
October 9th, 2012
11:50 pm
MarkV@11:35, You didn’t “HER stupid.” What is that? You call everyone stupid who doesn’t agree with you. I can vouch for that. You love to beat down your opposition, including Kyle.You used the word stupid in its various forms 5 times within 4 sentences.
Has anyone ever called you a narcissist?
ODD OWL
October 9th, 2012
11:54 pm
I hear that Romney and Ryan had a big fight over gun ownership… Romney want to pass strict gun control laws the way he did when he was Gov. in Mass…. Romney banned hunting on Sunday in Mass… Said it was un-Godly… Ryan agreed with President O’bama that we should not have any gun control laws infringing on our 2nd. amendment rights… President O’bama even expanded the people’s 2nd. amendment rights so we can carry guns in the National parks and on Amtrack trains…I have never seen Romney shoot a gun, have any of you ??? I’ll bet that Romney who is right handed, would shoot a gun left handed… If Romney want my guns, he will have to pry them from my cold dead, Black hands… Vote O’bama and keep gun ownership legal and free…
Tiberius - pulling the tail of the left AND right when needed
October 10th, 2012
12:04 am
“You can’t balance the budget by simply cutting PBS – only an idiot would think that.”
Which apparently you do,”the secret”
Fortunately, Romney does not. And he’s the one that will be President.
Tiberius - pulling the tail of the left AND right when needed
October 10th, 2012
12:06 am
“I hear that Romney and Ryan had a big fight over gun ownership… ”
And I hear that some people think Elvis is still alive.
Neither are true, but it’s fun to say nonsense, isn’t it, ODD OWL?
Tiberius - pulling the tail of the left AND right when needed
October 10th, 2012
12:08 am
“Mitt is unfit to lead.”
Not even remotely true, as was evidenced last week during the debate, as there was only ONE leader on that stage (and it wasn’t Obama nor Lehrer).
AmVet, however, is unfit to vote.
Linda
October 10th, 2012
12:14 am
Odd@11:54, You are indeed odd. No engagement with commenters. No sites to cite your outlandish claims. If gun control laws are important to you, you should pay attention to Fast & Furious, which seems to have originated with the Obama adm.’s desire to control guns, which resulted in a border agent’s death, as well as hundreds of Mexican citizens.
JamVet
October 10th, 2012
12:17 am
Tibby, getting drunk and then showing up late with more unprovoked insults is so unbecoming.
Tsk, tsk, tsk, you don;t want to get banned yet again, do you?
LOL!
And don’t be so touchy.
Any rube, like you or Mitt can talk a good game.
BFD.
Here’s you and Mitt’s new theme song…
I’ve got my head out the window
And my big feet on the ground
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3-iqnLEAHMc
Tiberius - pulling the tail of the left AND right when needed
October 10th, 2012
12:23 am
Don’t drink, smoke or use drugs, AmVet.
Your meds need adjusting, however.
Tiberius - pulling the tail of the left AND right when needed
October 10th, 2012
12:36 am
“Any rube, like you or Mitt can talk a good game.”
Then why can’t you?
Why can’t you make a single point without insulting everyone you disagree with? Why don’t you provide facts instead of opinion? Why do you find the need to label everyone?
Why can’t you actually DEBATE an issue?
Linda
October 10th, 2012
12:49 am
@@ @ 11:17, PLEASE stop the engagement!
Linda
October 10th, 2012
12:56 am
Kyle@11:23, If I was the host on this website, I would ban the commenter @11:23 for not only insulting me but also for using profane language that the rest of us have to endure.
Linda
October 10th, 2012
1:03 am
MarkV@11:35, You didn’t “HER Stupid.” Incoherent. 4 sentences & 5 references to stupidity. See a pattern?
getalife
October 10th, 2012
1:10 am
I would agree the title of this post is offensive.
His name is not Barry Kyle.
His name is President Obama.
ODD OWL
October 10th, 2012
2:56 am
@ Linda 12:14 post…. Fast and Ferious ==> Bush/Cheney gun running and drug running operation… A. G. Alberto Gonzales was in charge of fast and ferious… President Obama and the Democrats were not involved in those criminal activities in any way, shape or form… The Republicans are attempting to scape goat, blame and project their illegal, criminal, immoral behavior onto the POTUS and the Democrats… Linda is one of Romney’s tools…
Lil' Barry Bailout - Vote American
October 10th, 2012
4:40 am
JamVet: Lil BB, if I provide five irrefutable examples of subsidies to major American corporations….
———-
I’m just not that familiar with the subsidies to, say, Apple that you’re talking about. Still waiting your response…
Real Athens
October 10th, 2012
6:26 am
Linda::
Stay out of the sauce. You’re embarrassing yourself. Newsflash: You’re not “the host on this website” and many find your uniformed replies and rehash an insult to intelligent discourse everywhere.
Kyle, an honest question, in reference to getalife’s post: Can you cite an occasion where you referred to President Bush as W.?
Tiberius - pulling the tail of the left AND right
October 10th, 2012
6:47 am
Really? You can’t defend Obama’s record, so now you’re jumping on Kyle for calling him Barry?
Hello! Yesterday’s column was brought to you by the letter “B” – B for Big Bird and B for Barry!
You and getalife really need to ‘Get a life’!
Tiberius - pulling the tail of the left AND right when needed
October 10th, 2012
7:03 am
Oh, and Real Athens, you might wish to recall a famous movie made in 1989 called “When Harry Met Sally”.
“When Harry / Barry Met Sally / Big Bird” – Get it now?
Sheesh!
md
October 10th, 2012
8:20 am
“Do you know the difference between a embassy and a consulate?”
Yes I do, and I also know that BOTH are protected by the separate marine security battalion. Keep grasping, maybe if you root around long enough you’ll find some half way decent excuse…..
Georgia
October 10th, 2012
8:45 am
Big Bird. Obamaloney. Empty Chair. Trickle Down Government. Voodoo Government.
After Andrea Mitchell chimed in her own objections to using her image in a Obama Campaign spot, I can only say to her, “You’re no Big Bird”.
I think I can write a campaign speech now. Lets see, how can I open this……” I tought I taw a PuttyTat! I did, I did. I did tee a PuttyTat. “
I Report (-: You Whine )-: mmm, mmmm, mmmmm! Just sayin...
October 10th, 2012
9:07 am
U.S. top earners pay larger share of taxes than any other industrialized nation…
Has the left ever told the truth about anything?
World of lies.
I demand to see Cheesy Grits Birth Certificate- Long Form Please
October 10th, 2012
9:38 am
We will be in big trouble if Cheesy Grits wins.
If you thought the recession of 2008 was bad you haven’t seen anything yet.
Finn McCool (The System isn't Broken; It's Fixed)
October 10th, 2012
9:48 am
If Kyle can call Barack Barry, can we call Kyle Kyleen?
Finn McCool (The System isn't Broken; It's Fixed)
October 10th, 2012
9:50 am
Can you cite an occasion where you referred to President Bush as W.?
or, Shrub?
Finn McCool (The System isn't Broken; It's Fixed)
October 10th, 2012
9:51 am
One of the key findings was that while Americans saw their median net worth fall a full 39 percent during the crisis years of 2007-2010, the median wealth of members of Congress rose 5 percent in that time, and the wealthiest third saw their riches increase by 14 percent.
http://www.alternet.org/economy/report-while-american-families-lost-ton-wealth-crash-members-congress-did-just-fine
Finn McCool (The System isn't Broken; It's Fixed)
October 10th, 2012
9:56 am
Since the name Barry is of no relation to Barack, we should find a new name for Kyle.
I suggest “Bubba”
killerj
October 10th, 2012
10:03 am
Good for PBS,please don,t destroy my childhood,if Mr. Rogers was still here I know he would stick a sock in the man,s mouth and Captain Kangaroo would throw a pie in his face. Go Tea Party.
Finn McCool (The System isn't Broken; It's Fixed)
October 10th, 2012
10:07 am
9 Things That Show Mitt Romney Is Morally Bankrupt
1. The smug non-smoker took big bucks to push smoking on Russians.
2. Slams government economic investment despite having taken government contracts.
3. Opposes abortion, but invested in company that disposes of aborted fetuses.
4. Decries corruption in other countries but facilitated it in his own.
5. Insults low-income Americans for not paying federal income tax, while not paying federal income tax on almost all of his income.
6. Calls for more transparency from his opponent while hiding his own tax returns, squirreling millions offshore and using accounting tricks to lower his tax rate.
7. Painted his opponent as a fibbing child while building an entire campaign on lies.
8. Claims to have the “best interests of the African American community” in his heart while running a race-baiting campaign.
9. Wears the mantle of protectionist, China-battling job creator after having put thousands of U.S. workers out of jobs and bought into a giant Chinese sweatshop.
Click here for the details:
http://www.alternet.org/election-2012/9-things-show-mitt-romney-morally-bankrupt
Kyle Wingfield
October 10th, 2012
10:09 am
Finn, et al.: By all accounts, “Barry” is how Barack Obama used to introduce himself. If you’re offended by that, take it up with him.
Btw, he’s also adopted the term “Obamacare,” which y’all used to find so “offensive” as well.
Meanwhile, I await your requests for the commenter at 9:38 a.m. to stop referring to Romney as “Cheesy Grits.” I won’t hold my breath, but I do recommend lightening up.
Kyle Wingfield
October 10th, 2012
10:11 am
And speaking of desperation, there’s Finn’s 10:07.
Among other things…paying all the taxes the federal government requires of you now makes one “morally bankrupt”?
Del
October 10th, 2012
10:15 am
Finn, Obama was adopted by his mothers Indonesian husband Lolo Soetoro and named Barry Soetoro. He was enrolled in a Jakarta school under the name Barry Soetoro and was classified as an Indonesian citizen.
ha ha ha
October 10th, 2012
10:16 am
“When Harry / Barry Met Sally / Big Bird” – Get it now?
yes…….Yes……..YES!!!!!!!!!!!!
Climaxic tremors with a big yellow puppet.
Barry is in the loo, the piddly diddly department.
heh
Scott Fresno
October 10th, 2012
10:20 am
What a silly article. If you write a novel and have your main character drink a “Coke”, you will get a letter from the Coke company asserting you violated their trademark and telling you to modify your book. Are they really mad that you mentioned their product? Of course not! Will they actually sue you to make you change it? Of course not. They are delighted that you mentioned their product. But, to preserve their intellectual property rights they have maintain records showing that they are vigilant in trying to protect it.
MarkV
October 10th, 2012
10:21 am
Linda @11:50 pm
“MarkV@11:35, You didn’t “HER stupid.” What is that?”
There are people who have the intelligence to understand the difference between calling a person stupid (lacking in common sense, perception, or normal intelligence) and calling a statement stupid (pointless; worthless) [Dictionary], and some who don’t. There are also those who simply lie, such as when they charge that I call people stupid for not agreeing with me.
(For those, who have the necessary intelligence, but have not applied it yet to this subject, I offer an example: What Mitt Romney said about the “47%” was a stupid statement (one may argue whether it was stupid because of the substance, or because it was semi-publicly stated, or both). But that does NOT mean that Mitt Romney is a stupid person.)
Linda: “You used the word stupid in its various forms 5 times within 4 sentences.”
When dealing with such a conglomerate of stupidities, as the quoted statement by Dr. Barbara Bellar, candidate, Ill. State Senate (Linda, October 9th, 2012 @6:21 pm), is using it 5-times in various forms too much?
(For those, who have not read the statement in question, Dr. Bellar was quoted as attacking a piece of legislation (Affordable Care Act) on the basis of such arguments as that it was “signed by a president who smokes,” that its funding will be “administered by a treasury chief who didn’t pay his taxes,” that is “to be overseen by a surgeon general who is obese,” etc.)
But, perhaps I could be accused on stylistic grounds, using the same word more than once? Should I have mixed the characterization, and replace some of the “stupid” with “dumb,” “idiotic,” “asinine,” fatuous?” Would that help?
Linda: “Has anyone ever called you a narcissist?”
And then there are people who have the knowledge and intelligence to know what “narcissist” means, and those who don’t.
Finn McCool (The System isn't Broken; It's Fixed)
October 10th, 2012
10:33 am
Did Romney and his Campaign REALLY say both of these things in the same day?
“There’s no legislation with regards to abortion that I’m familiar with that would become part of my agenda,” he told the Des Moines Register on Tuesday 10/09/12 . Not long afterwards, there was an apparent reversal, with his campaign spokeswoman telling the National Review’s Katrina Trinko that Romney would “of course support legislation aimed at providing greater protections for life.”
One for the moderates, one for the base…
I demand to see Cheesy Grits Birth Certificate- Long Form Please
October 10th, 2012
10:37 am
Meanwhile, I await your requests for the commenter at 9:38 a.m. to stop referring to Romney as “Cheesy Grits.” I won’t hold my breath, but I do recommend lightening up.
I dont have any problem with Obama being called Barry. Thats what a lot of his friends call him.
And im definitely not changing my name.
Cheesy Grits will be a disaster for this country.
Funny too Kyle how even the mention of Romenys religion. The fact that he believes Jesus came to North America and hung out with the Indians, and any other number of crazy things Mormons believe.
Thats off limits. Drew a response from you pretty quick.
Even though its true.
But ill bet you never reprimanded anyone for suggesting Obama was a Muslim.
Even though it isn’t.
I demand to see Cheesy Grits Birth Certificate- Long Form Please
October 10th, 2012
10:40 am
One for the moderates, one for the base…
Im hoping Obama asks Romney which one he is today just before the debate.
Its hard to debate someone who basically has every position.
Romney has been running for President for 20 years.
There is nothing he will not say to get elected.
I demand to see Cheesy Grits Birth Certificate- Long Form Please
October 10th, 2012
10:43 am
Among other things…paying all the taxes the federal government requires of you now makes one “morally bankrupt”?
Is it not morally wrong that people with so much pay half the rate I do ?
41 And Jesus sat over against the treasury, and beheld how the people cast money into the treasury: and many that were rich cast in much. 42 And there came a certain poor widow, and she threw in two mites, which make a farthing. 43 And he called unto him his disciples, and saith unto them, Verily I say unto you, That this poor widow hath cast more in, than all they which have cast into the treasury: 44 For all they did cast in of their abundance; but she of her want did cast in all that she had, even all her living.
iggy
October 10th, 2012
10:44 am
Ths issue is the poor pay nothing and take advantage of as many entitlements as possible.
Finn McCool (The System isn't Broken; It's Fixed)
October 10th, 2012
10:45 am
It’s easy to debate when you have no backbone and refuse to take a stand on a position.
Oh, and Romney was “totally off base” with his comments about the 47%…..
You betcha!
Finn McCool (The System isn't Broken; It's Fixed)
October 10th, 2012
10:47 am
the poor pay nothing and take advantage of as many entitlements as possible.
first, people who buy stuff are paying taxes.
second, you can work two or three jobs and still not earn enough to pay income taxes.
third, do you have a problem with people not paying taxes or with people taking advantage of entitlements?
I demand to see Cheesy Grits Birth Certificate- Long Form Please
October 10th, 2012
10:58 am
first, people who buy stuff are paying taxes.
Republicans are about to tax internet sales in Georgia too.
Is there nothing they wont tax ?
Tom(Independent Viet Vet-USAF)
October 10th, 2012
11:03 am
Finn – You are correct Barry is no Barack! We should call him by his real name, Barack Hussein Obama!! It is obvious he is very proud of his Muslim middle name. His actions illustrate that to me. Was he ever in the military or at least play soldier when he was little? Doubt it! Probably played Muslims and Indians?
iggy
October 10th, 2012
11:05 am
Everyone needs to put something in the pot and those not contributing are the very ones ripping off the contributors. Free lunch, breakfast, daycare, pre K after school babysitting etc.
Finn McCool (The System isn't Broken; It's Fixed)
October 10th, 2012
11:21 am
Come on, Kyle, how do you explain Mitt’s flip-flopping on abortion?
Hillbilly D
October 10th, 2012
11:22 am
Is there nothing they won’t tax ?
No.
Tiberius - pulling the tail of the left AND right when needed
October 10th, 2012
11:26 am
Finn, if Obama can “evolve” regarding his position on gay marriage, why can’t Romney “evolve” regarding his position on abortion?
Why is Romney considered a “flip-flopper” and Obama is not?
Tiberius - pulling the tail of the left AND right when needed
October 10th, 2012
11:27 am
And don’t rush with your response, Finn. I know it takes time to get back your opinion from the DNC on each issue before you post it.
Since you don’t have any opinions that haven’t already been given to you.
I demand to see Cheesy Grits Birth Certificate- Long Form Please
October 10th, 2012
11:29 am
We should call him by his real name, Barack Hussein Obama!! It is obvious he is very proud of his Muslim middle name.
This is what im talking about.
Rafe Hollister, suffering through Oblamer's ineptocracy
October 10th, 2012
11:31 am
It’s easy to debate when you have no backbone and refuse to take a stand on a position.
If that indicates success in a debate, Obama must have won. Four years of flip flopping and blaming, he should have the experience necessary to win all the debates. Hard to hold him accountable, when everything that happened on his watch was either someone else’s fault or has been misunderstood. Did he say that the attack on the Consulate was because of a video or was he misinformed by those liars in the State Dept?
southpaw
October 10th, 2012
11:31 am
Tiberius @11:26
One can only “evolve” TO the pre-approved politically correct position. Moving FROM such a position is not allowed by the Cheshire cats here in Wonderland who define such words as “evolve.”
Tiberius - pulling the tail of the left AND right when needed
October 10th, 2012
11:32 am
“first, people who buy stuff are paying taxes.”
Yes, but at a far lower rate than those who pay actual income taxes, and usually for very specific purposes (SPLOST) and not much towards the general welfare.
“second, you can work two or three jobs and still not earn enough to pay income taxes.”
Huge stretch there. Yeah, you can, but you’d have to be incredibly unskilled at everything (except finding work so low-paid) in order for that to happen. Otherwise, you pay income taxes once the revenues are all totaled up.
“third, do you have a problem with people not paying taxes or with people taking advantage of entitlements?”
Both. Everybody should have skin in the game as far as paying taxes, and entitlements should be a last, not first, resort.
Tom(Independent Viet Vet-USAF)
October 10th, 2012
11:38 am
Cheesy Grits – It is his real name, quit whining and accept it. Or just go back to Jay Bird’s blog at the rock quarry!
Rafe Hollister, suffering through Oblamer's ineptocracy
October 10th, 2012
11:40 am
I would call Barry a chameleon but he has more colors than a chameleon. Is he the peace maker that won the Nobel Prize, the Warrior that took out Osama and launched all those drones, the black preacher we saw in the Hampton 2007 video, the post racial President we elected, the marvelous orator that reads from the teleprompter, or the stumbling bumbling inarticulate debater? Is he the Professor or the ignorant pupil?
Barry/Hussein- He is what you want him to be, get on board!
md
October 10th, 2012
4:26 pm
“Is it not morally wrong that people with so much pay half the rate I do ?”
they don’t…..but it is morally bankrupt to suggest they do. The rates are the same for EVERYBODY……….unless one compares apples to oranges.