Poll Position: How should Obama respond to embassy attacks?
The big story this week was the series of attacks on U.S. embassies across the Middle East and North Africa: from Libya, where our ambassador was killed, to Egypt, Yemen and, today, Tunisia and Sudan. In Libya, the government is cooperating with the investigation into the murders of Ambassador Chris Stevens and three other Americans. The responses from the other countries have been mixed, but they have been rather tepid on the whole.
How should Obama respond to the attacks on our embassies?
- Cut foreign aid (255 Votes)
- Pursue the killers in Libya; otherwise, lie low (173 Votes)
- Stop issuing travel visas for people from those countries (130 Votes)
- Bomb 'em (108 Votes)
- Economic sanctions (106 Votes)
- Too soon to say (102 Votes)
- Cut diplomatic ties (91 Votes)
- Increase foreign aid (5 Votes)
Total Voters: 517
Loading ...President Obama made a mistake Wednesday evening when he said of the Egyptian government, which has been in place less than three months, “I don’t think that we would consider them an ally, but we don’t consider them an enemy.” It was a mistake because the White House on Thursday had to walk back the statement; later Thursday, the State Department had to walk back the walk back, clarifying that Egypt retains the official designation of Major Non-NATO Ally it has held since 1989.
But this post isn’t about criticizing Obama for shooting first and aiming later. (OK, maybe it’s a little bit about that.) It’s really about the question most of us have been pondering since the attacks in Libya and Egypt on Tuesday, the 11th anniversary of 9/11: What is the proper response?
Some of you took my first post on the subject to imply a military action is needed. As I tried to make clear in the comments, that’s not the case. Things would have to spiral much further out of control before we were talking about military action.
Unless, of course, you include drone flights and a possible targeted strike on the terrorists responsible for the ambassador’s death, which the Obama administration appears to be considering at the very least.
Otherwise, there are a range of options here. We could pull our diplomats from their capitals. We could expel their diplomats from Washington. We cut cut or eliminate foreign aid to these countries. We could, I suppose, increase our foreign aid to them and use it to promote and educate them about our laws and values (such as freedom of expression). We could officially remove them from our list of allies. We could stop issuing travel visas from their country to ours. We could impose some form of economic sanctions. Or we could essentially do nothing more than pursue the people who killed Stevens and the other Americans.
What should Obama’s response entail? That’s this week’s Poll Position question. Answer in the nearby poll — NOTE: unlike most of my polls, you can select more than one answer in this one — and the comments thread below.
– By Kyle Wingfield
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MarkV
September 14th, 2012
4:47 pm
Kyle Wingfield @ 4:33 pm
Kyle, have you not noticed the words “response was not to condemn ATTACKS on our diplomatic missions? “(My emphasis)
Romney talked about a “first response,” it, the one that was issued before the attacks. It could not condemn attacks, if they have not occurred yet. That makes the statement false. Anything on the tweet feed later was just a repetition of a message before the attack. All Administration responses of the attack condemned them unequivocally.
“Lie number two. There was no “sympathizing with those who waged the attack.” ”
Kyle: That’s your opinion. It does not make Romney’s statement a “lie.” Regardless of what you hear behind the front door.
That is NOT an opinion, that is a fact. It was a big, fat lie, what Romney said. And you cannot pretend that you do not understand a difference between condemning something and sympathizing. Are you condemning the movie? Yes? Then you sympathize with the embassy attackers. NO? Well, I believe most decent people do.
melshop
September 14th, 2012
4:48 pm
There will need to be several actions taken on several levels, given the ongoing protests and violence in multiple countries. First, close down our embassies in those areas and allow for Americans to leave. Second, tell the governments they must crack down on the vandalism and protests immediately or all funding stops. Temporarily stop funding to show them you mean business and to compensate for the loss of property. However, continue a dialogue with the governments to restore order. Send in military (which the president had done) but make sure they have ammo. Address the issue before Congress and let Congress decide and authorize the president if this warrants a war action or distinct military action in these other countries. Perhaps use the drones to target bomb cities or countryside where massive protests are occurring or where these terroristic groups are. However, don’t hurt the government buildings if officials are helping us. Covertly find those responsible for the death in Libya (if not all in custody) and send our snipers to take care of them without any publicity until they are all dead. Push for those arrested to go on trial for war crimes. If we send in ground troops, which I am hesitant to do, it would have to be one massive show in each city with a lot of artillery and perhaps combined forces with British and German NATO forces (which might be plausible since their embassies were also bombed) to restore order, help local governments make arrests and get things under control. This shouldn’t be an act of war against those governments unless those governments do nothing to stop the riots.
Lil' Barry Bailout - Vote American
September 14th, 2012
4:51 pm
If I were a family member of those slain public servants I would be seething at the very picture or mention of him right about now.
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Nah. You’d be seething at the recognition that Obozo didn’t do his job and that the embassies were left vulnerable on the anniversary of 9/11 and that the administrations first instinct was to apologize to the Islamofascists.
Just Saying..
September 14th, 2012
4:52 pm
“And my observation is that you don’t understand the underlying reason he said anything in the first place…….why would he say if he had a son he would look like Martin just for the heck of it?
He was implying in that situation…….or do you think he took the time just to let us all know his son would look like a black boy???”
md: I appreciate your belief that you, and those similarly insightful, have the capacity to read the President’s mind, understand his motivations, and “know how he feels”. Ever been to Kenya?
I don’t pretend to have those superpowers. My opinion is that he wanted to communicate his dismay that, having attained the highest office in an America with historical barriers to his race, that the life of an unarmed young black person could be taken, without any immediate legal sanction. That the so-called “post racial” America his election signaled to many, was lethally untrue to some.
But I don’t know what the President was actually thinking. Apparently you believe you do. And….
I think your opinion is no better than mine. And I contest your opinion.
Thulsa Doom
September 14th, 2012
4:53 pm
Rafe,
Well dontcha know that in the liberal world Romney is a much bigger threat than an actual mob that is killing Americans? Just like anti abortion Christians are much more dangerous than Al Qaeda man made disasters.
Scott
September 14th, 2012
4:54 pm
I can’t say I am a big BHO fan but saying Egypt isn’t an ally is just common sense. They never have been. We just propped up 2 dictators there to ignore their people
Lil' Barry Bailout - Vote American
September 14th, 2012
4:54 pm
Everything priced in dollars is shooting higher…oil, gold, stocks…guess that’s what happens when you devalue your currency. Thanks, Obozo, for being so incompetent that Papa Ben found it necessary to take such extreme measures.
Just Saying..
September 14th, 2012
5:02 pm
“And there’s nothing wrong with moving away from oil……but the fact remains it can’t be done over night, so all this bluster about just pulling out is asinine……….”
True. And we’ve talked loudly about it since Carter and ‘73. And our representatives have done…..more talking.
And this link from yesterday’s NY Times provides some insight on who’s ox is in the ditch,:
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/09/14/us/politics/fossil-fuel-industry-opens-wallet-to-defeat-obama.html?pagewanted=all
independent thinker
September 14th, 2012
5:03 pm
“”"”"”"”"”"”"”"”"”"”"”"The Bush Administration viewed Libya as a model for potential rapprochement with other state sponsors of terrorism and sought to establish and expand counterterrorism, military, and economic cooperation with Libyans through foreign operations budget requests. The Obama
Administration has now embarked on an effort to more fully define the goals and scope of
renewed U.S.-Libyan relations. To date, the Obama Administration’s foreign assistance funding
requests for Libya programs have remained relatively limited and have not expanded
significantly. During the second session of the 111th Congress, Members may influence future
developments through consideration of FY2011 foreign assistance requests for Libya, oversight
of security cooperation or other bilateral assistance programs, and through the funding and
oversight of preliminary plans to construct a new U.S. embassy in Tripoli. “”"”"”"”"”"”"”"”"”"”"”"”"”"
Should Bush have normalized relations with Libya and agreed to give them aid?
Cons do not want to answer that . They were for aid to Qaddafi before they were against it and they were for aid to the rebels and all out war against Qaddafi before they were against it because Obama greed with them and then were for it again when Qaddafi was killed. Sounds just like a policy decision we should expect on everything from Romney. Since Al Quaida is operating in the country are we right to pull out or should we stay? Cons do not have a clue. Instead they and Kyle here are focused on one inconsequential memo from Egyptian embassy which has nothing to do with Libyan situation. Took Romney over a day to show concern for dead Americans -just like the convention and no mention of veterans. They are not on the balance sheet.
InAtl
September 14th, 2012
5:08 pm
MarkV: ( I can’t believe I’m trying to engage in a discussion with you, but here goes:)
“That is NOT an opinion, that is a fact. It was a big, fat lie, what Romney said. And you cannot pretend that you do not understand a difference between condemning something and sympathizing. Are you condemning the movie? Yes? Then you sympathize with the embassy attackers. NO? Well, I believe most decent people do.”
NOBODY has said the statement sympathized with the attackers. The strong implication was that in issuing that statement they were sympathizing with the muslims whose fragile sensibilities were bruised by the film.
Just Saying..
September 14th, 2012
5:09 pm
“WE only have to put our oil, natural gas and coal on the market and the ME countries would soon wish they could get $2 a gallon for their refined oil……………………………………”
Michael, that’s technically true. At a price, on a time horizon no one would bet their house on.
But many believe, as I do, that the by-product of the production scale would be an unbreathable, unlivable world. And, at that end, to what benefit?
Lil' Barry Bailout - Vote American
September 14th, 2012
5:09 pm
…and Democrats are so sincere in their expressions of respect and gratitude to our veterans that they displayed Russian warships on the big screen at their convention while veterans spoke.
Makes about as much sense as independent thinker’s blatherings above.
yuzeyurbrane
September 14th, 2012
5:10 pm
I have trouble understanding where cutting foreign aid is much of a response. None of this was state sponsored and most occurred in countries which are at least ostensibly our allies. In fact both the people and govt. of Libya have expressed their outrage at this attack. Foreign aid isn’t really as much as most folks think it is, but I don’t see the point of cutting off our noses to spite our faces. Let’s engage these countries to help us catch the perpertrators.
fair and balanced
September 14th, 2012
5:16 pm
For the ignorant ones on this blog- there is a small contingent of US troops in Egypt on the Sinai as peace keepers..pursuant to the peace treaty with Egypt. Had the Embassy no to tried to calm the
atmosphere about this right wing christian movie and the libel against jews as the sponsors, those troops would have been at risk.(remember 159 Marines killed as peace keepers in Lebanon). I am sure Romney considered all that before running his mouth.
Just Saying..
September 14th, 2012
5:18 pm
Gee, Mitt is such an able candidate.
You can’t imagine he wasn’t everyone’s first choice all along.
Tiberius - pulling the tail of the left AND right when needed
September 14th, 2012
5:19 pm
“Romney was flat out dead wrong in his stupid assertion that the administration’s “first response” on Tuesday was one of sympathy for those who started the violence itself–as the violence came AFTER the first statement was published.”
Dumbest post of the day by AmVet, and that’s saying something.
Do you really think (a big stretch, I know) that the statement was issued towards people who weren’t contemplating violence? When they’re gathered outside your walls chanting “Death to America”?
Really?
And let’s not forget the pitiful lack of defense for our freedom of speech. But that would be par for the course for American haters like AmVet.
MarkV
September 14th, 2012
5:25 pm
InAtl @ 5:08 pm: “NOBODY has said the statement sympathized with the attackers. “
InAtl, I am afraid you are sadly mistaken. Here are the words of Romney’s statement.
“The Obama administration’s first response was not to condemn attacks on our diplomatic missions, but to sympathize with those who waged the attacks.”
gm
September 14th, 2012
5:26 pm
For all the Dem especially Hillary Clinton, who came out and said we should unite the country after 911, under Bush watch, 3500 Americans died, makes you feel stupid now, because now you see what type of scum bags we have on the right now.
Even during Carter administration, when the hostages were killed Ronald Reagan came out and said this is not the time to divide but unite, this shows the scum of Mitt and the angry white conservative white males , Thank God there are more people of color, and white women who will make sure this disgraceful man will never make it into office.
Tiberius - pulling the tail of the left AND right when needed
September 14th, 2012
5:37 pm
gm, the only people who are trying to divide us are the liberals who are attacking Romney for speaking up like an American should.
saywhat?
September 14th, 2012
5:41 pm
Right wingers are master projectionists.
They are either ashamed to or unwilling to admit what an abject and total failure president w. bush and the republican house/senate were (allowed 9-11 attacks , the worst attack on American soil since Pearl Harbor, promoted the policies leading up to the worst economic failure since the great depression, allowed North Korea to get nuclear weapons, accelerated the income divide, did nothing to decreased oil dependence, invaded Iraq under false pretenses, bungled the war in Afghanistan by invading Iraq and letting OBL get away, turned a budget surplus into a budget deficit through unneeded tax cuts for the wealthy and the poorly crafted unfunded mandate of medicare part D, even while keeping two wars off the books etc.).
They deny they are ashamed, yet w. was no where to be seen at the Republican convention. They deny the historic proportions of the mess w. left behind in 2009, but criticize Obama for not fixing it fast enough, despite refusing to cooperate with him, or offering any solutions beyond a return to the policies that helped cause it.
They do these things not because there is any factual basis for their beliefs, but because their self identity is so strongly tied to the Republican party, that it would damage their fragile egos to admit the failures of that party. As a result, they project their own commitment to party over country onto everybody else. It is evidence of their deep down self-hate, much in the same way the loudest, harshest right wing haters of homosexuals are themselves gay. They criticize Obama as un-American, because deep down they know that THEY have become un-American, celebrating the death of Americans to prop up the party of their identity.
I can’t decide whether they should be more pitied or more held in disgust.
gm
September 14th, 2012
5:42 pm
Tiberius – pulling the tail of the left AND right when needed
I wondered what would the right nut jobs would have said if the Libs had said after 911 Bush sympathize with those who waged the attacks.?
The right please take your American flag and put it in your closet, you have given the Obama the election””””
Linda
September 14th, 2012
5:42 pm
gm@5:26, I’m so glad you made it so clear. The scum bags on the right are “angry white conservative white males” & you “thank God” for “people of color, and white women.”
Did you just give me a compliment while calling my husband a scum bag?
saywhat?
September 14th, 2012
5:48 pm
gm, you may not remember, but right wing scumbags DID, and STILL DO, accuse “liberals” of sympathizing with the 9-11 attackers.
InAtl
September 14th, 2012
5:49 pm
MarkV, after re-reading the context of your posts and Kyle’s, I actually see your point. I would agree that it could be construed that Romney accused Obama of sympathizing with the attackers. Some people could honestly think that. I wouldn’t go that far, but I also do believe that you can’t condemn someone and say you understand their position at the same time, which is the confusing position Obama taking. I would love to hear the administration saying that we have First Amendment Rights of free speech, and we’re proud of that, period. As long as our leader is trying to placate people’s feelings abroad, he stands a good chance of slighting his own country.
gm
September 14th, 2012
5:49 pm
Mitt, accused the President of the United States sympathize with terrorist, sent American jobs overseas, yep thats a true American, I am sure Ronald Reagen and the rep of the past are really proud of you right wing nut job selection””””
Just Saying..
September 14th, 2012
5:50 pm
“Did you just give me a compliment while calling my husband a scum bag?”
I’m sure it was unintentional…
gm
September 14th, 2012
5:53 pm
Linda
LOL , I’m sorry that was meant for lib women, not for mental rep women who vote for men who hate all women right”””’
Tiberius - pulling the tail of the left AND right when needed
September 14th, 2012
5:55 pm
saywhat?, post ANY comment whatsoever that “celebrates the death of Americans”. Don’t bother – it doesn’t exist.
This isn’t about Bush, no matter how much you spin it. Bush is gone – get over it.
This is about the failure of this administration to defend the rights of all Americans, no matter how misguided or moronic. This is about host countries that should be held responsible for the safety of our ambassadors, but are not. This is about a failed policy of support for people who are no better than, and are likely a lot worse than, the dictators we helped depose. This is about a failed policy of “they’ll like us if we just don’t offend them” blowing up in our faces. This is about elevating people to civilized status who clearly have a long way to go to actually get there.
You can cry about Republican obstructionism all you want, but Obama had two full years of a filibuster-proof majority and he got nearly everything he wanted – and it didn’t work. So pardon the rest of us for not wanting to repeat things that didn’t work and expect different results.
This is about elected the least capable person to the Presidency in the history of this nation. This is about nearly 4 years of flaccid leadership at best, and no leadership at worst. And yet YOU can’t admit your mistake in electing this incompetent boob to the highest office in the land at one of the worst times in our history.
Rafe Hollister, suffering through Oblamer's ineptocracy
September 14th, 2012
5:59 pm
While gm is dividing people into good and bad, he should be more specific on women. Married women support Romney, so by gm’s logic they are bad, shownuff bad. Single women support Obama, so they are good people.
Married women have progeny (that is children, gm) that they want to live in an America where their children are better off than they were. That is why they oppose Obama’s sinking ship America.
Single women, many of them, only want free birth control, and the ability to party when they want, or at least that is what they said at the demfest in Charlotte.
Tiberius - pulling the tail of the left AND right when needed
September 14th, 2012
5:59 pm
“I wondered what would the right nut jobs would have said if the Libs had said after 911 Bush sympathize with those who waged the attacks.?”
I doubt George Bush would ever have issued such a namby-pamby statement as the diplomats in Egypt did.
Just Saying..
September 14th, 2012
6:00 pm
“As long as our leader is trying to placate people’s feelings abroad, he stands a good chance of slighting his own country.”
InAtl: I take your point, at least to the extent the “slighting” angers some.
In the end, are we “exceptional” enough to let it go? Or no? I’ve been to those other places, willingly and otherwise. Whatever is said, it just doesn’t affect my certainty about which country I want to live in.
Grob Hahn
September 14th, 2012
6:01 pm
Simple; Obama only has to say he’s sorry for America and all the madness in the Middle East will finally come to an end!
This is outrageous enough to retaliate substantially with the blessings of most of the sane world. I’d wager if Obama sent in some real muscle to deal with this as well as closing the money off, most Americans would forget who Mitt Romney is.
Instead Obama will back the Muslim side of the equation and risk losing the top seat.
Grobbbbbbbb
independent thinker
September 14th, 2012
6:08 pm
Mr. Tiberius- name me one president that had to fight three hot wars and a totally failed economy their first day in office?just one.
and as to being the most incompetent president, that place is already occupied by Obama’s predecessor who was basically barred from the GOP convention.
Considering those two years of filibuster proof congress Obama had – why is it that the stimulus package he passed was almost identical to the one Romney was advocating ? Or you hadn’t seen that op-ed?
and exactly how many times did mssrs Bush and Cheney go to Dover to greet the returning dead and their families??/
and that failed policy of appeasement – who was the president that decided to normalize relations with Libya while their leader was a terrorist who was responsible for killing Americans on flight 103??????????????
You may have to be some thought and facts into your answer otherwise you sound just like Romney running his mouth.
MarkV
September 14th, 2012
6:09 pm
InAtl @5:49 pm “…but I also do believe that you can’t condemn someone and say you understand their position at the same time, which is the confusing position Obama taking.”
Sorry, InAtl, but that does not work either. There was no “condemning someone” and “understanding their position at the same time.” What the Embassy condemned was the film as “offensive to religious believers.” There was nothing about “understanding their position.”
Just Saying..
September 14th, 2012
6:11 pm
Easy, Tib; He did call you Mister.
saywhat?
September 14th, 2012
6:15 pm
tiiberius- I never said the right wing nuts made any statements celebrating the deaths of Americans, therefore I can not show you any. The celebration, however, is evident in their actions, in their accusations against fellow Americans and the President himself, as somehow being un-American, accusations which are simply a projection of their own self hatred for feeling that way themselves.
Tiberius - pulling the tail of the left AND right when needed
September 14th, 2012
6:19 pm
“name me one president that had to fight three hot wars and a totally failed economy their first day in office?just one.”
Doesn’t matter. He was elected to FIX them. And it was two wars. Both proceeding to their inevitable end using the timetables and policies of that same predecessor. So what exactly did he do differently? NOTHING.
“and as to being the most incompetent president, that place is already occupied by Obama’s predecessor who was basically barred from the GOP convention.”
I do not believe he was barred, but rather has decided to step out of the limelight as most Presidents SHOULD do (even though some just cannot).
“Considering those two years of filibuster proof congress Obama had – why is it that the stimulus package he passed was almost identical to the one Romney was advocating ?”
It wasn’t.
“Or you hadn’t seen that op-ed?”
Op-ed’s are just that – not exactly white papers on policy, are they?
“and exactly how many times did mssrs Bush and Cheney go to Dover to greet the returning dead and their families??/”
Once again, Bush and Cheney are not in office. Perhaps you missed that little fact.
“and that failed policy of appeasement – who was the president that decided to normalize relations with Libya while their leader was a terrorist who was responsible for killing Americans on flight 103??????????????”
Thanks for agreeing with me that it is a failed policy of appeasement. Nice to see that you can learn something. However, epic fail on the “blame anyone but Obama” mantra.
gm
September 14th, 2012
6:20 pm
Rafe Hollister, suffering through Oblamer’s ineptocracy
Single women, many of them, only want free birth control,, so does that inclued the rep women who some get free birth control?
Nothing like a good old white conservative man to know what women want””’
How about those rep women who benefit from the ledbetter act Obama passed? I know just keep them in their place and shut up
Linda
September 14th, 2012
6:20 pm
gm@5:53, When I’m convinced that Romney hates women, including his wife, his 5 daughters-in-law & all his female grandchildren, then I might consider not voting for him.
When Obama stops pandering for women’s votes by merely offering them free birth control pills, which can be bought anywhere for $9, & starts offering women what we really want, which is JOBS, then I might consider voting for him.
If that makes me “mental,” consider me mentally sane & intelligent.
Lushion
September 14th, 2012
6:22 pm
Are you serious? Travon Martain gets killed and the black community wants blood. A possible criminal gets killed in Anaheim and the Hispanic community wants blood. The United States embassy are being out right attacked any Americans are dying. Where the hell are the protests about this??? I swear some people make me sick.
InAtl
September 14th, 2012
6:22 pm
“Sorry, InAtl, but that does not work either. There was no “condemning someone” and “understanding their position at the same time.” What the Embassy condemned was the film as “offensive to religious believers.” There was nothing about “understanding their position.”
Now you’re parsing words. It’s very clear to me from some of the statements the administration has made that they are telling the angry muslims that they agree with them that the film is offensive; i.e. they understand their outrage. If you deny that, there’s no further point in discussing this. And BTW, here’s just one example from Hillary:
“I know it is hard for some people to understand why the United States cannot or does not just prevent these kinds of reprehensible videos from ever seeing the light of day,” she said. “Now, I would note that in today’s world with today’s technologies that is impossible. But even if it were possible, our country does have a long tradition of free expression, which is enshrined in our Constitution and in our law. We do not stop individual citizens from expressing their views no matter how distasteful they may be.”
Just Saying..
September 14th, 2012
6:22 pm
saywhat?:
The quandry is, until Nov. 6, too many first-identity partisans can’t enjoy any positive American outcomes, for fear it may undercut their political arguments.
You know, those Genuine patriots.
Tiberius - pulling the tail of the left AND right when needed
September 14th, 2012
6:23 pm
Saywhat? @ 6:15: “I never said the right wing nuts made any statements celebrating the deaths of Americans”
Really? Then what, pray tell, is THIS little ditty as you railed on about “Right wingers”?
Saywhat? @ 5:41: “They criticize Obama as un-American, because deep down they know that THEY have become un-American, celebrating the death of Americans to prop up the party of their identity.
Delusional. Simply delusional.
gm
September 14th, 2012
6:24 pm
Hey John McCain you lost the election get over it:
Wow, under GW Bush American embassey was attacked 13 times, along with 3500 American dead during 911, so was GW Bush weak in foreign policy?
The hypocrites on right never end””””’oh I know, when you watch uninformed fox news you can not do research,
Always the Benjamins
September 14th, 2012
6:24 pm
In the case or Egypt, it is easy. Either stop the protests, fix any damage, punish those involved, or cut off all the welfare we send as part of Camp David accords ($1-2 billion a year). And all aid to other countries should be cutas well. Threw out a boycott of any goods from the countries and that’s a start. They want to stop buying from us, that’s fine, too.
Just Saying..
September 14th, 2012
6:25 pm
Historical Mystery Solved!!:
“…offering women what we really want, which is JOBS…”
Just Saying..
September 14th, 2012
6:26 pm
“…then I might consider voting for him.”
THAT will truly be a magic moment…
Hillbilly D
September 14th, 2012
6:28 pm
Haven’t read any of the comments but here’s my 2¢:
We’re still pretty early in this and those of us here really don’t know what’s going on, other than what we read which may be true or may not be. Initial reports often turn out to be wrong and/or get revised as things shake out.
I’d think a lot depends on how the Libyan government reacts. Not just saying the right things but do they make a real, honest effort to find these people and punish them? If they do, then it’d probably be just as well to let the Libyans punish them (with our vocal blessings) because they probably won’t treat them as nicely as we would. If the Libyans just give lip service to it (which I sort of doubt as it stands now) then our people needs to hunt them down and kill them, wherever they happen to be.
But I’m sure there’s all kinds of things going on that I’m not privvy, too.
Linda
September 14th, 2012
6:30 pm
gm@6:20, You keep harping about the Ledbetter act since that is all you can come up with. How important is “equal pay” when women have no jobs?
You really need to come up with something else Obama has done for women. There’s nothing.
He’s been an absolute failure in every respect.
Just Saying..
September 14th, 2012
6:31 pm
“If they do, then it’d probably be just as well to let the Libyans punish them (with our vocal blessings) because they probably won’t treat them as nicely as we would. If the Libyans just give lip service to it (which I sort of doubt as it stands now) then our people needs to hunt them down and kill them, wherever they happen to be.”
Works for me…