On night 1 of the DNC, Democrats must think only Democrats were watching

If the first night at the Democrats’ Charlotte convention is any indication, their message boils to: There’s still Hope, and the president hasn’t Changed.

That, plus an unhealthy side dish of the culture wars.

Democrats did their best Tuesday night to relive the glory days of 2008 and convince you happy days are just around the corner. Massachusetts Gov. Deval Patrick gave an impassioned effort at portraying the past 3.5 years as a success. His delivery was quite good — probably the best of the night from someone who presumably aspires to a career in national-level politics — but his material was nothing you haven’t already heard:

This is the president who delivered the security of affordable health care to every single American after 90 years of trying. This is the president who brought Osama bin Laden to justice, who ended the war in Iraq and is ending the war in Afghanistan. This is the president who ended “don’t ask, don’t tell” so that love of country, not love of another, determines fitness for military service. Who made equal pay for equal work the law of the land. This is the president who saved the American auto industry from extinction, the American financial industry from self-destruction, and the American economy from depression. Who added over 4.5 million private sector jobs in the last two-plus years, more jobs than George W. Bush added in eight.

Set aside for now the figure about 4.5 million private sector jobs, selectively chosen to look as good as possible for Obama. Can this list really be described, as Patrick described it, as “long, impressive and barely told”? I won’t even get into a further parsing of the particular successes Patrick lists. Anyone who votes in this election is surely aware of the items on Patrick’s list — and yet voters routinely give Obama a mediocre approval rating and say the country is headed sharply in the wrong direction.

This was not a pitch that appeared geared toward the undecided voters who will decide this election in about a dozen swing states. It was a pitch designed to fire up the base, probably in the hopes that only the base was watching the first of three straight nights (for the second straight week) of political speeches.

Certainly, the repeated paeans to abortion rights and gay marriage were made with the base, and only the base, in mind. All last week, the people in Tampa with whom I spoke were struck by the scarcity on the RNC stage of such words and phrases as “abortion” and “pro-life,” “illegal immigration” and “gay marriage.” Any references that were made came only obliquely. As my colleague Jim Galloway noted, the GOP’s pitch was one aimed at independent voters. The contrast with the Democratic messaging Tuesday night was stark.

Julian Castro, the young Latino mayor of San Antonio billed as the next Obama, did a fair job of delivering a rather trite speech, as keynote addresses go. If you watched the GOP convention last Thursday night, you saw Marco Rubio deliver the best parts of Castro’s speech first, and better: For example, Rubio talked about his father’s working “behind the bar in the back of the room” so that he could stand “behind this podium in the front of the room”; Castro said his mother “held a mop” so that he could “hold this microphone.” If we’re going to play the “who has the most promising [enter race/ethnicity/gender here] politician,” I think the GOP will be quite pleased to put Rubio, Senate candidate Ted Cruz of Texas and, especially, New Mexico Gov. Susana Martinez up against Castro.

Michelle Obama gave what I thought was the best speech of the night. It was warm and passionate, and effective in the way she contrasted her ambivalence in 2008 with the idea of her husband being president (for once, Republicans were nodding along with her!) with her firm belief now that he has to be the man in the White House. Like Castro, she hit on some themes that her Republican counterpart, Ann Romney, did last week: Whereas Mrs. Romney talked about eating tuna salad on a fold-down ironing table as a newlywed, Mrs. Obama recalled the just-married Obamas being “so young, so in love, so in debt.” (Maybe this explains why the president is so unmoved by our national debt today?) If there is a common theme between the two conventions so far, it is the apparent need for everyone involved to highlight the humility of his or her beginnings.

Ultimately, however, Mrs. Obama’s message was framed around a question she receives from well-wishers across the country: Has the presidency changed her husband? She made a strong case that it has not, that he is the same man she fell in love with “all those years ago” — and, more to the point, that he’s the same man the American electorate fell in love with four years ago. This is a nice little conceit that dodges the real question posed by this election: Has the country changed, for the better, during his presidency?

That is the argument still to be made persuasively tonight and tomorrow night.

– By Kyle Wingfield

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joe

September 5th, 2012
12:21 pm

Did she happen to mention why they don’t wear a flag pin…or solute our flag for that matter? Didn’t think so. Of course, she was caught on camera mouthing “All this for a damn flag”, when at some sort of public holiday gathering…then Dictator O nodding in approval…pathetic. They are.

Oh, I’m currently in Europe at the moment…so glad I’m missing the Dems week. The things I see here frighten me to no end regarding the USA following suite. (massive amounts of debt and unemployment. You can’t walk 5 feet without someone begging for money).

Cutty

September 5th, 2012
12:28 pm

‘Has the country changed, for the better, during his presidency?’

We were losing 700K+ jobs a month when Obama was elected, bin Laden was still alive (Bush wasn’t worried about him anymore), on the verge of losing the auto industry, and millions without healthcare. I say, yes, the country has changed for the better. Was Paul Ryan so moved by our national debt when Bush was in office? Boehner? McConnell? I thought not.

JDW

September 5th, 2012
12:29 pm

@Kyle…now there is a lot in this bit that is just pure BS but I’ll start here…

“Certainly, the repeated paeans to abortion rights and gay marriage were made with the base, and only the base, in mind.”

Pssssst…according to your own employer “51 percent of independents surveyed now support the idea” of gay marriage.

And a WHOPPING 84% of adults believe abortion should be available either always or sometimes legal…in DIRECT CONTRADICTION to the Republican Party platform…

” the base, and only the base” indeed, you wish…have some more koolaid…drink lots…November is coming.

http://www.ajc.com/news/news/national-govt-politics/democrats-call-for-marriage-equality/nR3Zd/

www. pollingreport.com/abortion.htm

JDW

September 5th, 2012
12:34 pm

@Kyle…”This is a nice little conceit that dodges the real question posed by this election: Has the country changed, for the better, during his presidency?”

O’ Dear…

Q4 2008 job losses equaled 1.5 MILLION
Q4 2008 GDP decline was 8.9%
Business credit was non existent
DOW ended the year at 8776

Today…

4.5 million jobs created over last 29 months more than the entire Bush debacle
GDP growing at around 2% per year
Corporate profits at all time high
DOW 13,000 plus

Now come on Kyle where would you really like to be?

Rafe Hollister, suffering through Oblamer's ineptocracy

September 5th, 2012
12:34 pm

Did any of the speakers mention the mountain of debt or the deficit or the lack of a budget. Probably not, they were busy riling up the base, desperate for a good turnout of their loyal following. Gotta employ that group think they are so famous for, Four more years, Yes we can, You gotta believe, Forward, rah, rah, sis boom bah. Did they say anything about Romney putting Y’all back in chains?

Who gave the opening prayer?

Gordon

September 5th, 2012
12:34 pm

When will John Lewis speak? I want to hear his “they’re coming for ya” speech again. Very entertaining.

Bruno

September 5th, 2012
12:34 pm

Just for kicks last night, PB and I tuned in to MSNBC following Michelle Obama’s speech. As I predicted to her, they were falling over themselves in fawning admiration. Which I could understand if the Democrats had any real accomplishments to run on. Style over substance all the way.

drew

September 5th, 2012
12:36 pm

I sure missed all the anger and God references. I really wish that the Dems had more. The GOP convention reminded me so much of the souther baptist church I went to back home. Old, white, railing against change, and slowly but surely dying.

Bruno

September 5th, 2012
12:37 pm

4.5 million jobs created over last 29 months more than the entire Bush debacle

JDW–Apparently you missed the fact-check over on CNN in which they stated that 5 million jobs have been lost in the same time period, resulting in a net loss of 500,000 jobs since Obama took office.

Any reason you keep telling only half the story?? Not very honest……

skipper

September 5th, 2012
12:39 pm

Hate to make it sound so important, but the gay agenda ALONE is enough to make most folks puke! they keep sticking it to us (no pun intended) when state after state has voted against it!

Finn McCool (The System isn't Broken; It's Fixed)

September 5th, 2012
12:40 pm

It took Republicans 8 years to devastate not only the US economy but economies in other countries around the globe but they want us to fix it in 3.5 years?

It’s like the teenager who talks dad into giving him the keys to one of the family’s cars and promptly wraps the car around a tree killing bystanders, damaging private property and totaling the car. When he gets home he asks for the keys to the other family car.

We aren’t falling for your lies again, Cons!

Del

September 5th, 2012
12:41 pm

Caught parts of Michelle’s speech trying to sell the Obama persona or maybe resell would be a better description. The others that not heard we’re more rants than speeches but not atypical in Democrat gatherings.

Dusty from downstairs thank you for the welcome. Pretty soon there will no longer be any conservative posters on Bookman’s blog only the aging nostalgic hippies from the 60’s and 70’s along with their dippy hippy wannabe’s. It’s turned into a far-left play pen over there.

Bruno

September 5th, 2012
12:42 pm

Whereas Mrs. Romney talked about eating tuna salad on a fold-down ironing table as a newlywed, Mrs. Obama recalled the just-married Obamas being “so young, so in love, so in debt.”

My personal dislike for Michelle Obama began in 2008 when she frequently complained about having to pay back the student loans that she an Barack used to go to Ivy League schools:

“And then you’ve got the other half of young people who were like me and Barack, who too, out loans to pay for our college. So yeah, we have Ivy League degrees, but they cost us a whole lot of money to get. And see, what we did was what we thought we were supposed to do. We got those fancy degrees, and then we left corporate America, and went to work in the community. And with every job we took, we made less money…(W)here we found ourselves, in a position like most young couples, with our PhD’s and JD’s and MPh’s and WLMOP’s, all those wonderful degrees, all mired in debt. We had not paid off our loan debts until just a few years ago. Barack couldn’t even run for president.”

http://ktcatspost.blogspot.com/2008/05/michelle-obama-complaining-about.html

Just my opinion, but I think she and her husband have consistently shown a serious lack of character and personal responsibility. An Entitlement Mentality all the way, as evidenced by the numerous lavish vacations they keep taking while the rest of America suffers.

Aquagirl

September 5th, 2012
12:43 pm

Of course, she was caught on camera mouthing “All this for a damn flag”, when at some sort of public holiday gathering…

Oh, goodness, another con who believes his forwarded e-mail lies. That’s never happened before.

SwamiDave

September 5th, 2012
12:45 pm

The striking perspective that I noted from Mrs. Obama and Castro was that both of their stories were deeply rooted in family members (parents or grandparents) who worked and sacrificed on their behalf. In both their cases, it was their families sweat & effort that meant the most to them and served the greatest benefit.

Translation: THEY built it too!

Yet after the remembering and re-telling, they continue proposing government as the means to success when it was not even true of their own experiences!

-SD

Finn McCool (The System isn't Broken; It's Fixed)

September 5th, 2012
12:45 pm

News headlines from 4 years ago. Courtesy AlterNet.org:

STOCK SHOCK FELT ROUND THE WORLD. Gets ‘nasty’ as Lehman tanks, Merrill vanishes, AIG wobbles [New York Daily News, September 16, 2008]

Depression Coming? Boil Some Beans; Ladies Who Quilt Give Tips On Surviving Tough Times [Albuquerque Journal, September 21, 2008]

One day on the brink On Wednesday, it seemed U.S. economy might collapse [St. Louis Post-Dispatch, September 21, 2008]

‘Great Depression’ closer than U.S. admits, report finds [Pittsburgh Tribune-Review, September 27, 2008]

Will Bush become the new Hoover? [Politico, September 19, 2008]

Developers bend under housing meltdown [Colorado Springs Gazette, September 27, 2008]

Depression seen possible [Florida News-Press, September 27, 2008]

Wall Street Meltdown Continues [CNN, September 17, 2008]

Is It Really the Next ‘Great Depression’? [NPR, September 19, 2008]

Behind Closed Doors, Warnings of Calamity [The New York Times, September 20, 2008]

resno2

September 5th, 2012
12:46 pm

so if he hadn’t somehow been able to pay off those unfair student loans he wouldn’t have run in the first place?!?!?!

JDW

September 5th, 2012
12:47 pm

@Kyle…”Set aside for now the figure about 4.5 million private sector jobs, selectively chosen to look as good as possible for Obama.”

Silly me…I thought that making your candidate look as good as possible was the point. Of course it helps if you use facts that are correct. It is simple math, in the last 29 months 4.5 million private sector jobs were created, that’s more than in the entire Bush Administration.

Add ‘em up…they are right here…http://www.bls.gov/ The statement as made is correct.

You may wish to debate how all those jobs got lost during Obama’s first few months prior to the stimulus taking effect, but to anyone with eyes it is easy to see that was an inherited set of circumstances.

Finn McCool (The System isn't Broken; It's Fixed)

September 5th, 2012
12:47 pm

Whereas Mrs. Romney talked about eating tuna salad on a fold-down ironing table as a newlywed,

as she thought to herself “Did this IDIOT really give away his entire inheritance to that cult? What am I doing here?”

Rafe Hollister, suffering through Oblamer's ineptocracy

September 5th, 2012
12:48 pm

JDW

As Paul Harvey used to say here is the rest of the story, from Eliz McDonald, Fox Business. You have posted those same “selected” statistics multiple times, so here is a counter balance. No, we are not better off, although some statistics can be selected to make that point, it does not deal with the entire picture.

No, Not Better Off Vs. 4 Years Ago:
*$16 trillion deficit – government spending has rocketed to more than 25% of GDP from 21.4%, the largest peacetime expansion of government spending in U.S. history.
*Federal Reserve’s balance sheet has more than tripled.
*Net 316,000 jobs lost – truly a jobless recovery *8.3% jobless rate – 42 months of 8%-plus unemployment versus 6.1% in August 2008, and unemployment below 5% in 2007
*Proportion of the labor force employed now at a 30-year low
*39% drop in median net worth to $77,300 in 2010 from $126,400 (latest data available from the Federal Reserve)
*8% drop in average annual income
*Nearly on-third of mortgages are underwater
*1.5 million homes in or nearing foreclosure
*$2.5 trillion in cash held captive on corporate balance sheets, as execs keep powder dry watching D.C.

Read more: http://www.foxbusiness.com/investing/2012/09/04/road-map-to-are-better-off-now-vs-4-years-ago-debate/#ixzz25cA6yxsk

Finn McCool (The System isn't Broken; It's Fixed)

September 5th, 2012
12:48 pm

I’m currently in Europe at the moment…so glad I’m missing the Dems week. The things I see here frighten me

Yeah, that austerity is the ticket, isn’t it!

JDW

September 5th, 2012
12:51 pm

@Bruno…”JDW–Apparently you missed the fact-check over on CNN in which they stated that 5 million jobs have been lost in the same time period, resulting in a net loss of 500,000 jobs since Obama took office.”

Sorry Bruno your reading comprehension is a bit lacking. From CNN…

“The number Castro cites is an accurate description of the growth of private-sector jobs since January 2010, when the long, steep slide in employment finally hit bottom.”

Please note that the number is from the bottom of the trend started by Bush and inherited by Obama.

Bruno

September 5th, 2012
12:52 pm

It took Republicans 8 years to devastate not only the US economy but economies in other countries around the globe but they want us to fix it in 3.5 years?

In case you missed it, the economy under Bush did well for nearly 6 1/2 years. Unfortunately, when the banking industry began showing signs of crisis in 2007, the Dems were in charge of Congress and all of the Banking Committees. Specifically, Barney Frank was chairman of the House Financial Services Committee (2007–2011) and Christopher Dodd chaired the powerful Senate Committee on Banking, Housing and Urban Affairs. Later, Dodd was accused of accepting special favors from Countrywide, and Frank from Fannie Mae.

Please try to get your facts straight.

John Ellison

September 5th, 2012
12:54 pm

“16 Trillion”
Some people say a man is made outta mud A poor man’s made outta muscle and blood Muscle and blood and skin and bones A mind that’s a-weak and a back that’s strong
You load sixteen trillion, what do you get Another day older and deeper in debt Saint Peter don’t you call me ’cause I can’t go I owe my soul to the government store
I was born one mornin’ when the sun didn’t shine I picked up my shovel and I walked to the mine I loaded sixteen trillion of government debt And the straw boss said “Well, a-bless my soul”
You load sixteen trillion, what do you get Another day older and deeper in debt Saint Peter don’t you call me ’cause I can’t go I owe my soul to the government store
I was born one mornin’, it was drizzlin’ rain Fightin’ and trouble are my middle name I was raised in the canebrake by an ol’ mama lion Cain’t no-a high-toned woman make me walk the line
You load sixteen trillion, what do you get Another day older and deeper in debt Saint Peter don’t you call me ’cause I can’t go I owe my soul to the government store
If you see me comin’, better step aside A lotta men didn’t, a lotta men died One fist of iron, the other of steel If the right one don’t a-get you Then the left one will
You load sixteen trillion, what do you get Another day older and deeper in debt Saint Peter don’t you call me ’cause I can’t go I owe my soul to the government store

Thulsa Doom

September 5th, 2012
12:55 pm

I thought Castro’s speech was very good at first. He made note of how his grandmother worked as a maid and how 2 generations later as the result of his grandmother and then his mother’s hard work that he and his brother had risen to positions in life that his grandma could only have dreamed of them attaining. It was a great and feel good story. The problem was then that later in the speech he went into a completely contradictory statement about opportunity and lack of opportunity in America. It was in complete contradiction of the metoric rise of his family. Anybody else catch this?

I also thought Michelle’s speech went very well. But as has been pointed out it seemed that there was a heavy emphasis on the contributions of govt and of the public sector in general- fireman, policemen, teachers, all noble professions that deserve recognition. But she didn’t touch at all or if so very little on the contributions of the private sector, of private charities, of the average small business owner who carries the burden of running a business and providing not only for his family but making sure his employees and their families are provided for.

Wonderful speeches and wonderful stories but again Michelle spoke about opportunity and pointed out that we should not slam the door on opportunity for others. I’m still a little bit stunned by that. This is the land of opportunity. Not everyone starts out with the same advantages in life- life is not fair. But to keep suggesting that there is no opportunity is kind of insulting- particularly in light of the rise of so many immigrants in a mere 1-2 generations. This nation offers more opportunity than just about anywhwere. Here in Georgia you have public education k-12 and then the Hope scholarship which pays for college at our public colleges. Americans from the most humble backgrounds have access to these opportunities. Lets not forget that folks. And everyone has the opportunity to start a small business with little or no cash and grow from there. I’ve done it and I know way too many people who’ve done it so the suggestion that there is no opportunity or no opportunity without government help is an insult to every American who has succeeded in spite of humble beginnings.

Finn McCool (The System isn't Broken; It's Fixed)

September 5th, 2012
12:55 pm

yeah Bruno, and 9/11 didn’t happen on W’s watch, either. Correct?

Selective memory.

Rafe Hollister, suffering through Oblamer's ineptocracy

September 5th, 2012
12:57 pm

Bruno

Just my opinion, but I think she and her husband have consistently shown a serious lack of character and personal responsibility. An Entitlement Mentality all the way, as evidenced by the numerous lavish vacations they keep taking while the rest of America suffers.

Your opinion further enhanced by the fact that both “voluntarily” gave up their law license in Illinois. Kinda like Slick Willie “voluntarily” gave up his in Arkansas. Ethics sure spoil a little fun sometimes.

Finn McCool (The System isn't Broken; It's Fixed)

September 5th, 2012
12:57 pm

“This sucker could go down.”
~ George W Bush September 2008.

“This sucker could go down.”
~ George W Bush September 2008.

“This sucker could go down.”
~ George W Bush September 2008.

“This sucker could go down.”
~ George W Bush September 2008.

“This sucker could go down.”
~ George W Bush September 2008.

Finn McCool (The System isn't Broken; It's Fixed)

September 5th, 2012
12:58 pm

After Warren and Clinton speak tonight, this election will be OVER.

Can you feel the Obama landslide yet? It’s starting to rumble.

Rafe Hollister, suffering through Oblamer's ineptocracy

September 5th, 2012
1:01 pm

Before the attacks on Bruno begin over his statement that Frank, Dodd, and the Dems precipitated the housing crisis by their inaction, read this article. The Mistake himself was also involved.

http://dailycaller.com/2012/09/03/with-landmark-lawsuit-barack-obama-pushed-banks-to-give-subprime-loans-to-chicagos-african-americans/

Li'l Aynie

September 5th, 2012
1:02 pm

What kind of idiot is undecided? The choice is simple: Obama if you plan to live another 5 years, or care about someone who may, and Romney if you want to turn the country over to the ultra-rich and Big Business.

What’s so difficult about that?

Thulsa Doom

September 5th, 2012
1:06 pm

“The number Castro cites is an accurate description of the growth of private-sector jobs since January 2010, when the long, steep slide in employment finally hit bottom.”

Obama came into office a year earlier. Fair or unfair we judge presidents by what they do from the month they take over. Jobs losses had bottomed out in Jan of 09. The recession ended 6 months into Obama’s presidency.

And when we look back for example on Reagan’s tenure we include the Fed induced 81-82 recession which comprised the first 2 years of his presidency. Just as we don’t give Reagan a mulligan for a recession on his first 2 years we don’t give Obama a mulligan for the first 6 months or the first year of his presidency.

When a new CEO takes over a mess at a company that his predecessor ran into the ground he doesn’t spend 4 years whining about the mess he inherited. He just goes about fixing it. Obama needs to do the same.

And keep in mind that when Romney and Bain Capital took over numerous companies that were on the verge of bankruptcy or in bad shape they didn’t spend all their time complaining about previously poor management. 5% of the companies they couldn’t save and went bankrupt but the rest of them they managed to turn around and turn into successful ongoign ventures. Companies like Target. And they couldn’t have done that if they spent all their time whining about the predecessor. And THAT is exactly what this country needs.

Jefferson

September 5th, 2012
1:06 pm

Where’s the love ? You are making me laugh with your ‘tude.

JDW

September 5th, 2012
1:06 pm

@Rafe…can’t see the forest can you…

*$16 trillion deficit – government spending has rocketed to more than 25% of GDP from 21.4%, the largest peacetime expansion of government spending in U.S. history.

Indeed it has. You just conventily forget that the “rocketed spending” was also an inherited set of circumstances. Bush’s last FY budget spent at the rate of 25.2% of GDP. That rate was down to 24.1% in 2011. Now you can certainly say you wished Obama had decreased spending faster but he inherited the “the largest peacetime expansion of government spending in U.S. history” from the Republicans.

*Federal Reserve’s balance sheet has more than tripled.

So? It has kept the economy from falling into Depression. Didn’t the 30’s teach you anything?

*Net 316,000 jobs lost – truly a jobless recovery *8.3% jobless rate – 42 months of 8%-plus unemployment versus 6.1% in August 2008, and unemployment below 5% in 2007
*Proportion of the labor force employed now at a 30-year low

Again you miss the point. As stated earlier the slide in jobs started in January of 2008 under the Republican watch and hit rock bottom in April of 2009 when the stimulus started the recovery. You can whine all you want but the fact is Bush put the plane into a nose dive and after wresting the controls it took a while to get an upward path started again. Since that occured more private sector jobs have been created in 29 months of Obama than in 96 months of Bush.

*39% drop in median net worth to $77,300 in 2010 from $126,400 (latest data available from the Federal Reserve)
*8% drop in average annual income
*Nearly on-third of mortgages are underwater
*1.5 million homes in or nearing foreclosure

As a direct result of the Bush Recession.

*$2.5 trillion in cash held captive on corporate balance sheets, as execs keep powder dry watching D.C.

And that is primarily due to Republicans focusing 100% of their effort on making Obama a one term President and 0% on actually solving problems.

Dusty

September 5th, 2012
1:07 pm

What I can never forget about Mrs. Obama is her opening public statement about finding for the first time something she liked in the USA. This from an adult American.

Now she is telling us how poor they were after graduation but went into community service anyway.

Perhaps she will tell us sometime how they got rich in a hurry, bought a big house, became big buddies with people like Ayers and other radicals.

True confession is honest only if everything is included, not just the “good” parts.

Rafe Hollister, suffering through Oblamer's ineptocracy

September 5th, 2012
1:08 pm

Li’l Aynie

You had it right there but you got off track. Obama if your total focus is enjoying the next five years and don’t care what happens after that, or Romney if you want to leave an America your children and grandchildren will want to live in.

JDW

September 5th, 2012
1:08 pm

@Thulsa…”Fair or unfair we judge presidents by what they do from the month they take over.”

Only if you are an idot…

:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:

Hillbilly D

September 5th, 2012
1:09 pm

Interesting note on the “16 tons” reference.

Merle Travis who wrote the song was from coal mining country. He once said that he knew that about 2 tons was as much as a man could load in those days, given methods and technology but that “you load 16 tons and what’da you get” had a much better ring to it than “you load two tons….”.

Moral of the story: Never let the truth get in the way of a good line.

Bruno

September 5th, 2012
1:10 pm

“The number Castro cites is an accurate description of the growth of private-sector jobs since January 2010, when the long, steep slide in employment finally hit bottom.”

Sorry, JDW, skipped over the “since Jan, 2010″ starting point, and was looking at his entire Presidency, which gives a more complete picture. By picking skewed starting or ending points for a statistical time period, you can paint any picture you like.

The bottom line is that Presidents don’t have a lot of direct impact on the state of our economy, neither Obama or Bush. The claim that Obama “created” any specific number of jobs is ludicrous in the first place.

Thulsa Doom

September 5th, 2012
1:11 pm

Elizabeth Warren is speaking? A very poor selection. The controversy created by her false claim to minority status means the Dems should have picked someone else to speak. All of the other selections were good. But she was not.

Finn McCool (The System isn't Broken; It's Fixed)

September 5th, 2012
1:13 pm

well said, JDW, well said.

Wasted on the “we only understand the lies our candidates give us” Conservatives.
The “Go away with those facts and truths” Republicans just can’t swallow that stuff.

OBIWAN

September 5th, 2012
1:14 pm

Bruno,
Please don’t confuse them with facts….

They BOTH suck

September 5th, 2012
1:16 pm

Rafe @ 1:01

Really?

http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/loans.asp

You have a great day now

:-)

Centrist

September 5th, 2012
1:16 pm

As one columnist puts it – this is a “media lovefest”.

Prediction: Media declares Obama wins both debates with Romney (but not voters).

They BOTH suck

September 5th, 2012
1:17 pm

TD @ 1:11

Heck, I don’t even think she is going to win the seat.

Thulsa Doom

September 5th, 2012
1:18 pm

JDW,

Sorry but its what we do in the name of consistency. Because if we want to go down that road and argument then we can just pick 6 years of the W presidency and show that things were significantly better under W. Unemployment was dramatically lower- in the 5% range, economic growth was better than 1.7%, than it is today under Obama and the debt was growing at a significantly slower rate than its growing at now. So if we both want to cherry pick then its pretty easier to show that things were better under several years of W then they are currently under O.

And an ominous sign was that the debt hit 16 trillion while they were speechifying yesterday. Curiously, no mention of that staggering amount. But a few beautiful speeches isn’t going to make that number magically disappear. As Bruno said earlier all style no substance.

They BOTH suck

September 5th, 2012
1:20 pm

TD

Don’t forget about the bubble

just sayn

BoneHead

September 5th, 2012
1:20 pm

In the famous words of what democrat?
“who cars if we lie”
Debbie Wasserman-Shultz

@@

September 5th, 2012
1:22 pm

This describes Obama’s youth vote in 2008:

“so young, so in love,…”

This describes America’s youth today.

“…so in debt.”

Ray

September 5th, 2012
1:23 pm

Were it not for President’s Obama health care plan, I would not have health care insurance today, nor any hope of getting it until Medicare kicks in. I don’t live in fear of losing everything I have worked for all my life, should some dreadful medical condition develop.

When I lost my job, and my COBRA unexpectedly ended just after two months of coverage, I was quoted 600% of Georgia’s base premium for individual coverage, plus another additional 100% for living in metro Atlanta, for a COBRA conversion policy. I knew I could not maintain the staggering cost for very long. Who could?

Medical expenses and illness are the leading causes of bankruptcies in this country. If you have a “pre-existing condition”, which could be nearly any condition an insurance company might want it to be, Governor Romney’s plan for individuals is that you could effectively be locked out of the insurance market for life, if at any point you did not have continuous coverage. God help you if you should lose your employment at any point in time; you are probably going to spend what little income you get, and your cash on hand, on keeping a roof over your head, food on the table, and wheels to find your next job, if you can even do that. What bank is going to loan you money, today, if you are unemployed, to pay for health insurance?

With ObamaCare more lives will be saved, family treasures will be saved, and we will see less bankruptcies.

Why would any party want to take this country back to a constant state of insecurity and financial hardship when it comes to something as important as our medical and health needs?