RNC 2012: Summing it up
TAMPA — So I’m sitting at the gate in the Tampa airport, Sunday column filed, and finally have time to put down some quick thoughts about Thursday night’s finale at the RNC.
First, Clint Eastwood’s performance is a good example of why (I presume) he insists that the actors in his movies follow a script. There were some grand moments in there — “You, we, we own this country. … Politicians are employees of ours” being one of them — and the image of President Obama as an empty chair is going to have staying power in this campaign. But his 12-minute bit could have been done in much less time and been even more effective. As rambling and bizarre as Eastwood was at times, I don’t think he hurt Mitt Romney with his performance. He just didn’t help as much as he might have.
Second, there were a few primetime-worthy appearances earlier in the evening that would have done much more to burnish Romney’s public image. The first was a trio of speeches by members of Romney’s church in Massachusetts, talking about their friendship with the Romneys and the ways Mitt Romney went out of his way to help them in times of personal crisis. I won’t go into these too much because Sunday’s column focuses on one of them. But they were extremely moving and shed light on two aspects of him: his faith, and his service to others. Ann Romney said Tuesday night, going off-script for a few moments to emphasize the point, that he doesn’t like to talk about things he does for others. But the stories of that trio went a long way toward demonstrating there’s a lot to tell.
The Olympians’ appearance was also worthy, particularly Derek Parra’s speech. Even better may have been the video about his salvage job at the 2002 Winter Games. If I can find it online, I’ll add a link.
Third, Jeb Bush’s appearance with a teacher and student from Florida was strong. The time devoted to it, taken with Condoleezza Rice’s remarks about education reform and school choice, suggested strongly that those would be high-priority issues in a Romney presidency. Then Romney himself named them in a list of five things he would do to reinvigorate the economy in the short and long terms. If the campaign continues to talk about school choice, it could make for an unexpected but welcome complement to school choice advocates’ charter school campaign in Georgia this fall.
Fourth, Marco Rubio was outstanding, as expected. He spent a great deal of time talking about himself — which some observers have taken as a way to promote himself for 2016 or 2020 — but I don’t think the Romney folks will worry too much about that. That’s because any promotion of Rubio’s story is a promotion of American exceptionalism and the endurance of the American Dream. Indeed, Rubio was just one of several speakers this week who described themselves as first-, second- or third-generation Americans. At a national level, there is an obvious intent among Republicans to change the way their partisans talk about immigration. Which is not to say going soft on illegal immigration, but to make clear that there are a host of welcome, legal immigrants that the GOP intends to celebrate.
Finally, there was Romney himself. Let’s get this out of the way: He wasn’t the best speaker of the week. He might not even have been in the top 5. But that is not what makes him presidential material, and he certainly gave an address worthy of a presidential nominee. It built carefully but surely to a strong finish, and everyone I spoke with came away thinking he had done a perfectly fine job at capping off the week.
Overall, if the GOP’s goal was to explain the message it’s selling to voters clearly and confidently, the week was a success.
– By Kyle Wingfield
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I demand to see Cheesy Grits Birth Certificate- Long Form Please
August 31st, 2012
2:02 pm
ill sum it up in three words
FOUR MORE YEARS !!!
I demand to see Cheesy Grits Birth Certificate- Long Form Please
August 31st, 2012
2:04 pm
Overall, if the GOP’s goal was to explain the message it’s selling to voters clearly and confidently, the week was a success.
The problem is the message.
I Report (-: You Whine )-: mmm, mmmm, mmmmm! Just sayin...
August 31st, 2012
2:05 pm
Feel lucky, punks?
Well………do ya?
I demand to see Cheesy Grits Birth Certificate- Long Form Please
August 31st, 2012
2:07 pm
What a disaster Clint was.
After the Dems get a bump out of their convention this thing is all but over.
I demand to see Cheesy Grits Birth Certificate- Long Form Please
August 31st, 2012
2:08 pm
If the campaign continues to talk about school choice, it could make for an unexpected but welcome complement to school choice advocates’ charter school campaign in Georgia this fall.
Yeah thats what Georgia needs. Charter schools where the first thing they do is through out Science and replace it with Religion. At taxpayer expense mind you.
I demand to see Cheesy Grits Birth Certificate- Long Form Please
August 31st, 2012
2:12 pm
A biology textbook used by a Christian school in Louisiana that will be accepting students with publicly funded vouchers in the fall says that the Loch Ness Monster in Scotland is real. And it isn’t just any monster but a dinosaur — an effort to debunk evolution and bolster creationist theory.
HDB
August 31st, 2012
2:13 pm
The problem is that much of the Convention was marred by what Republicans did to that CNN camerawoman….the lies that Paul Ryan stated…and getting called out on….Mitt’s acquiescence to the birthers…McCain’s pushing for the nation to get into six wars…..
Got to be better than this…….
I demand to see Cheesy Grits Birth Certificate- Long Form Please
August 31st, 2012
2:16 pm
http://www.motherjones.com/blue-marble/2012/07/photos-evangelical-curricula-louisiana-tax-dollars
Click on over if you want to get a further look at what ” Charter ” schools will mean for Georgia.
With your tax dollars !!!
Tom
August 31st, 2012
2:17 pm
It’s going to be a long two months of Kyle whistling past the graveyard.
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2:18 pm
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Tealiban Party
August 31st, 2012
2:18 pm
Three take aways from the RNC:
1. Invisible Obama uncomfortableness
2. Paul Ryan’s all out lies
3. Mitt Romney in his best speech ever (But too bad it wasn’t full of more details. Just because you read your bullet points 1 through 5 doesn’t mean you are explaining policy specifics. But this has been the campaign stategy all along, so I am not suprised.)
Metro Coach
August 31st, 2012
2:25 pm
Two questions for Tealiban Party: 1) What did Paul Ryan lie about? 2) When has Barack Obama ever given a detail about any plan he has?
Verbal Kint
August 31st, 2012
2:26 pm
Has anyone seen the speaker line up for the DNC next week? If I were a dem, I’d be worried.
I demand to see Cheesy Grits Birth Certificate- Long Form Please
August 31st, 2012
2:28 pm
Has anyone seen the speaker line up for the DNC next week? If I were a dem, I’d be worried.
After the show the GOP just put on. We aren’t.
Rafe Hollister, suffering through Oblamer's ineptocracy
August 31st, 2012
2:28 pm
Kyle, I agree emphatically with everything you said. Great job, mission accomplished. We can do better than what we have (not much, as was pointed out)
The best part of last night was the testimonials from the church people. Knowing several Mormons, that I really respect, this is normal for what they do. They spend inordinate amounts of time serving others. Their bishops counsel their members for anything they wish to improve in their lives. I don’t agree with some of their beliefs, but if I had to be in a foxhole with someone shooting at me, I would be glad to know their were Mormons in the hole with me.
I’m sure Obama has gone out of his way to help someone somewhere, maybe he will tell us about it at the Dimfest. Surely he has assisted someone back to the clubhouse, whose cart broke down on the backside of the course, or something.
Verbal Kint
August 31st, 2012
2:30 pm
Topic of the DNC next week: Abortion and evil rich people!!
I demand to see Cheesy Grits Birth Certificate- Long Form Please
August 31st, 2012
2:31 pm
Obama still maintains a lead coming out of GOP convention.
Bad bad news for Republicans.
Verbal Kint
August 31st, 2012
2:31 pm
The message from the RNC, Cheese, was more JOBS. I guess you’ve got a problem with that, huh?
Rafe Hollister, suffering through Oblamer's ineptocracy
August 31st, 2012
2:32 pm
Tealiban
A convention is not a place where you get into minutia. Romney’s detailed plan is on his website.
Obama’s very detailed plan is in his words, spoken daily, Rich need to pay their “fair share”. End of plan.
Mark in mid-town
August 31st, 2012
2:33 pm
I thought Clint Eastwood’s performance was rambling, and bizarre. I also thought it was absolutely brilliant and hilarious. The rambling part helped it come across as real and unscripted common sense straight from the heart. He poked fun at Obama hitting him with one zinger after another, and you’re just not allowed to do that to the incredibly thin-skinned Obama. The liberal msm lackeys are in overdrive attacking Eastwood. The relatively few conservative voices on msm publications should not help them out or be influenced by them. What Eastwood did was devastating for Obama. Watching Eastwood’s presentation is funnier the 2nd time when you realize what he’s up to. That Eastwood drew so much attention and scorn means that millions who didn’t watch the convention are now seeking it out on the Internet.
Tealiban Party
August 31st, 2012
2:33 pm
One answer for Metro Coach:
1. Medicare “cuts”
2. Ryan’s role on the Simpson Bowles commission
3. Janesville GM Plant
4. Responsibility of “America’s downgrade”
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/08/30/fact-check-paul-ryan-convention-address/
You may also google thousands of other sites with the same info….
Aquagirl
August 31st, 2012
2:34 pm
Great job, mission accomplished.
Are you really using that phrase without a hint of irony?
I demand to see Cheesy Grits Birth Certificate- Long Form Please
August 31st, 2012
2:35 pm
The message from the RNC, Cheese, was more JOBS. I guess you’ve got a problem with that, huh?
Yeah I do. Because Ive heard that trickle down crap before.
Didn’t work then. Wont work now.
I demand to see Cheesy Grits Birth Certificate- Long Form Please
August 31st, 2012
2:36 pm
What Eastwood did was devastating for Obama.
LOL
Tealiban Party
August 31st, 2012
2:38 pm
Rafe – Romney correctly said 23 millions people are out of work. He promises to create 12 million jobs. How? (And what about the other 11 million unemployed?)
Tiberius - pulling the tail of the left AND right when needed
August 31st, 2012
2:39 pm
“The problem is that much of the Convention was marred by what Republicans did to that CNN camerawoman….the lies that Paul Ryan stated…and getting called out on….Mitt’s acquiescence to the birthers…McCain’s pushing for the nation to get into six wars…..”
Not sure what you were watching, HDB, but you weren’t watching the GOP convention.
I demand to see Cheesy Grits Birth Certificate- Long Form Please
August 31st, 2012
2:39 pm
Are you really using that phrase without a hint of irony?
They have forgotten anything longer than three and a half years ago aqua.
Verbal Kint
August 31st, 2012
2:40 pm
“Didn’t work then. Wont work now”
And Obama’s plan is working? Really? The only thing trickling down is the dem kool aid from the side of your mouth.
I demand to see Cheesy Grits Birth Certificate- Long Form Please
August 31st, 2012
2:41 pm
Not sure what you were watching, HDB, but you weren’t watching the GOP convention.
Most of America wasn’t either.
Yawn.
Same old Republicans with same old empty promises.
Just give tax breaks to the rich and watch all the jobs trickle down.
Well we are still waiting.
Tiberius - pulling the tail of the left AND right when needed
August 31st, 2012
2:41 pm
“Obama still maintains a lead coming out of GOP convention.”
Really, Cheesy? No polls have been released that were taken following the convention. What exactly are you smoking?
I demand to see Cheesy Grits Birth Certificate- Long Form Please
August 31st, 2012
2:42 pm
And Obama’s plan is working? Really? The only thing trickling down is the dem kool aid from the side of your mouth.
Yes it is. Considering the disaster he inherited. Not to mention two wars he didn’t start.
Id say he has done a fine job.
Tiberius - pulling the tail of the left AND right when needed
August 31st, 2012
2:43 pm
“Same old Republicans with same old empty promises.
Just give tax breaks to the rich and watch all the jobs trickle down.”
Except if you actually took the time to READ their plan, you’d know that is not the case. But why would we expect you to do something to educate yourself, right, Cheesy?
Aquagirl
August 31st, 2012
2:44 pm
Really, Cheesy? No polls have been released that were taken following the convention.
Are empty chairs gonna be polled? Republicans totally lost that demographic.
I Report (-: You Whine )-: mmm, mmmm, mmmmm! Just sayin...
August 31st, 2012
2:44 pm
My party has Clint Eastwood while your party has Dirty Floor Fluke.
Need I say more?
I demand to see Cheesy Grits Birth Certificate- Long Form Please
August 31st, 2012
2:44 pm
Really, Cheesy? No polls have been released that were taken following the convention. What exactly are you smoking?
Technically correct. But the one released yesterday Obama was still leading.
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2012/president/us/general_election_romney_vs_obama-1171.html
Either way Romney saw almost no bump out of the convention.
The Dems will do much better. Then its over.
Seriously doubt if Mittens or Clint changed that.
EJ Moosa
August 31st, 2012
2:45 pm
“Considering the disaster he inherited. Not to mention two wars he didn’t start.”
Inherited?
I thought he wanted the job.
Verbal Kint
August 31st, 2012
2:45 pm
“A fine job”
Lowering his golf handicap, maybe.
EJ Moosa
August 31st, 2012
2:45 pm
“Technically correct. But the one released yesterday Obama was still leading”
We didn’t vote yesterday.
I demand to see Cheesy Grits Birth Certificate- Long Form Please
August 31st, 2012
2:46 pm
My party has Clint Eastwood while your party has Dirty Floor Fluke.
Stay Classy
Tiberius - pulling the tail of the left AND right when needed
August 31st, 2012
2:46 pm
“Romney correctly said 23 millions people are out of work. He promises to create 12 million jobs. How?”
http://www.mittromney.com/sites/default/files/shared/presidentialaccountabilityscorecard_1_1.pdf
“(And what about the other 11 million unemployed?)”
He’s planning this to take four years. He’ll take care of the rest when he gets the first 12 million employed.
I demand to see Cheesy Grits Birth Certificate- Long Form Please
August 31st, 2012
2:47 pm
We didn’t vote yesterday.
Nope we will Nov 8th.
Obama will be leading then too.
I demand to see Cheesy Grits Birth Certificate- Long Form Please
August 31st, 2012
2:47 pm
Inherited?
I thought he wanted the job.
He did. Whats your point ?
Tiberius - pulling the tail of the left AND right when needed
August 31st, 2012
2:48 pm
“Either way Romney saw almost no bump out of the convention. ”
You have NO factual basis for the above statement, Cheesy.
I demand to see Cheesy Grits Birth Certificate- Long Form Please
August 31st, 2012
2:48 pm
He’s planning this to take four years. He’ll take care of the rest when he gets the first 12 million employed.
LOL
Verbal Kint
August 31st, 2012
2:48 pm
“The Rasmussen Reports daily Presidential Tracking Poll for Friday shows Mitt Romney attracting support from 45% of voters nationwide, while President Obama earns 44% of the vote. Four percent (4%) prefer some other candidate, and seven percent (7%) are undecided.”
Metro Coach
August 31st, 2012
2:49 pm
1. Obamacare cuts $700 billion from Medicare, reduced coverage anyone?
2. Obama commissioned Simpson-Bowles and then spit on their recommendations, so what difference does Simpson-Bowles make?
3. He didn’t lie about Janesville. The plant closed in April 2009, which is after Obama took office. Further, in his comments, all he did was quote the president nearly word for word. I know the “fact checkers” claim he lied, but when you read the transcripts that gets debunked rather quickly.
4. America’s spending problem is what led to the credit downgrade, and the president has spent more money during his administration than every other president combined. I’d say that the Dems were a pretty big reason for the credit downgrade.
I Report (-: You Whine )-: mmm, mmmm, mmmmm! Just sayin...
August 31st, 2012
2:49 pm
The dummycrat keynote party platform, I’m sure which most dimwits can’t wait for it to be unveiled, my boyfriends have to pull out early because of the evil Republicans and their war on women, blah, blah, blah, grunt, grunt, grunt, babble, babble babble.
Yep, the second coming of George Washington this obozo is.
InAtl
August 31st, 2012
2:50 pm
The RNC speakers kept to the high road. It’s doubtful that the DNC convention will be able to say that. Clint was amazing considering he was having a “conversation” with millions of people instead of a scripted speech. He’s still one of my heroes.
EJ Moosa
August 31st, 2012
2:50 pm
“nherited?
I thought he wanted the job.
He did. Whats your point ?”
The point is that you should not use the word “inherited”.
Either he was ready to deal with what was happening or he wasn’t. Trying to dismiss his performance to date because of what he “inherited” isn’t going to work.
You knew the point.
HDB
August 31st, 2012
2:51 pm
Tiberius – pulling the tail of the left AND right when needed
August 31st, 2012
2:39 pm
Wrong, Tibby….made sure I watched ALL three days!! Flipped between C-SPAN, MSNBC, CNN….and checked out online news sources…….
Best speech: Condi Rice
Charter Member of the Liars’ Club: Paul Ryan
Space Cadet of the Moment: Clint Eastwood
Any questions……
I demand to see Cheesy Grits Birth Certificate- Long Form Please
August 31st, 2012
2:51 pm
“The Rasmussen Reports daily Presidential Tracking Poll for Friday shows Mitt Romney attracting support from 45% of voters nationwide, while President Obama earns 44% of the vote. Four percent (4%) prefer some other candidate, and seven percent (7%) are undecided.”
Yup. Although Rasmussen always tends to come out for the Republican.
Gallup poll taken the same day has Obama ahead +1
This is all good news for Obama. No real bump by Romney.
And he still has his convention in his hip pocket.
Plus popular vote will not decide the election.
When you look at the electoral college Romney has a much tougher hill to climb.
Either way enjoy it boys.
This is the Romney/Ryan high water mark. Its all downhill from here.
EJ Moosa
August 31st, 2012
2:52 pm
“Nope we will Nov 8th.
Obama will be leading then too.”
No, by then the reality of his loss would have had two days to sink in.
EJ Moosa
August 31st, 2012
2:53 pm
“And he still has his convention in his hip pocket.”
You better get over to Manuel’s Tavern and get yourself some free tickets to the convention. Because they cannot seem to get enough folks to fill the seats….
They BOTH suck
August 31st, 2012
2:54 pm
“my boyfriends have to pull out early because of the evil Republicans and their war on women,”
I report
I didn’t know you were gay, but I am cool with it
I demand to see Cheesy Grits Birth Certificate- Long Form Please
August 31st, 2012
2:54 pm
The point is that you should not use the word “inherited”.
Either he was ready to deal with what was happening or he wasn’t. Trying to dismiss his performance to date because of what he “inherited” isn’t going to work.
You knew the point.
I still dont.
Yes he wanted the job.
But I think he would have preferred to not deal with W’s mess.
Verbal Kint
August 31st, 2012
2:54 pm
Cheese – I don’t know if you are aware but any incumbent that is in a dead heat in August with his opponent….doesn’t end well for the incumbent.
Reality
August 31st, 2012
2:55 pm
It is a shame that Isaac didn’t make the convention only one day. That is about all of the time it really needed….
Jefferson
August 31st, 2012
2:56 pm
Too bad the GOP folk in congress did not share Romney’s hope for the President to succeed, and too bad Romney had to take cheap shots. I don’t know which Romney to belive.
HDB
August 31st, 2012
2:56 pm
One victory for the good guys!!Voter suppression denied in Ohio!! Republican game plan foiled!!!
Judge overturns Ohio law, restores in-person early voting in 3 days leading to Election Day
COLUMBUS, Ohio — A federal judge has overturned a recent Ohio state law and restored in-person, early voting for the final three days leading up to Election Day.
The lawsuit was brought by President Barack Obama’s campaign and the Ohio Democratic Party which sought to overturn a new law that would have shutdown early voting after 6 p.m. on Friday, Nov. 2 until the polls opened on Tuesday, Nov. 6.
Judge Peter C. Economus of the U.S. District Court for the Southern District of Ohio ruled that the new statute is unconstitutional.
It “is unconstitutional to the extent it changes the deadline for in-person early voting from the close of business on the day before Election Day to 6 p.m. on the Friday before Election Day,” the ruling reads.
The ruling goes on to say that “in-person early voting is restored on the three days immediately preceding Election Day for all eligible Ohio voters.”
http://www.cleveland.com/open/index.ssf/2012/08/federal_judge_overturns_ohio_l.html#incart_river_default
Reality
August 31st, 2012
2:57 pm
FYI….
On Wednesday night, more Americans tuned in to watch the reality TV show “Honey Boo Boo Child” than the republican convention.
LOL!!!!
EJ Moosa
August 31st, 2012
2:57 pm
“Yes he wanted the job.”
Because he was used to jobs where problem solving was not a requirement.
On the job training has proven quite expensive.
And he’s still not ready for the job.
I demand to see Cheesy Grits Birth Certificate- Long Form Please
August 31st, 2012
2:57 pm
You better get over to Manuel’s Tavern and get yourself some free tickets to the convention. Because they cannot seem to get enough folks to fill the seats….
He will have 74,000 on their feet in Charlotte.
Bank on it.
Tiberius - pulling the tail of the left AND right when needed
August 31st, 2012
2:57 pm
I enjoyed the interlude with Clint Eastwood last night. If taken as entertainment and not some serious political discussion, it was excellent. He made a few really good points, some of which Kyle posted, but overall I found his time on stage to be a conversation which almost every other American (without tingles up their legs) might have with Obama.
Romney’s speech wasn’t epic, but that’s not the way he does things.
He just succeeds at everything he tries to do. He succeeded last night.
And if anyone took the time to watch some of the speakers last night put a “human” face on Mitt Romney, they would have come away more informed and more willing to support a guy who just can’t find it in him to brag about his personal accomplishments.
Common Sense
August 31st, 2012
2:59 pm
This is the Romney/Ryan high water mark. Its all downhill from here.
This from the folks that touted recovery summer.
Not a stellar record on predicting future outcomes.
I demand to see Cheesy Grits Birth Certificate- Long Form Please
August 31st, 2012
2:59 pm
The democratic party is a big tent party.
They wont have any problems getting people out to see Obama.
……………………………………………………………………………….
Tens of thousands of people lined up at offices in North Carolina last weekend to get the credentials needed to secure a seat, Obama officials said.
Tickets in neighboring states also are going fast. A spokeswoman for the Democratic Party in South Carolina said the 6,000 passes allotted to her state were gone.
“I support the president. I want to hear the speech,” said attorney Eli Poliakoff, 34, who stood in line with others at an Obama campaign office in Charleston.
“You look at this crowd and you have different backgrounds and ages and races and religions and all that’s good for democracy.”
They BOTH suck
August 31st, 2012
2:59 pm
EJ
How did you like the fact that 17M less people watched the convention this past Tuesday than did in 08?
The enthusiasm is just boiling over like a volcano
hahahahahaha
Jefferson
August 31st, 2012
3:00 pm
Romney isn’t concerned about the poor, he said it out loud. I gotta think he means it when he fired all those folks and took the money out of circulation.
I demand to see Cheesy Grits Birth Certificate- Long Form Please
August 31st, 2012
3:01 pm
He just succeeds at everything he tries to do.
He sure succeeds at not paying taxes.
Jefferson
August 31st, 2012
3:01 pm
Anyone who liked Clint last night is old and boring it seems.
Tiberius - pulling the tail of the left AND right when needed
August 31st, 2012
3:01 pm
“Tens of thousands of people lined up at offices in North Carolina last weekend to get the credentials needed to secure a seat, Obama officials said.”
Don’t worry, Cheesy. By next week that number will be revised downward.
They BOTH suck
August 31st, 2012
3:02 pm
Kyle
As noted, I made it through the week without watching one speech and will do so next week.
Those political party “infomercials” are nauseating, regardless of where one sits politically.
They BOTH suck
August 31st, 2012
3:03 pm
Not a right leaning individual, however I think Eastwood is a great entertainer; so I am sure his “act” last night was good.
Tealiban Party
August 31st, 2012
3:03 pm
Metro Coach
August 31st, 2012
2:49 pm
1. Obamacare cuts $700 billion from Medicare, reduced coverage anyone? – WRONG
“Those Medicare savings -achieved through reduced provider reimbursements and curbed waste, fraud and abuse, not benefit cuts – appear in the House Republicans’ FY 2013 budget, which Ryan authored.”
http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2012/08/fact-check-obama-ryan-romney-backed-medicare-cuts/
Tiberius - pulling the tail of the left AND right when needed
August 31st, 2012
3:03 pm
“He sure succeeds at not paying taxes.”
He pays more taxes per year than you could hope to pay in your entire lifetime, Cheesy.
EJ Moosa
August 31st, 2012
3:03 pm
“He will have 74,000 on their feet in Charlotte.
Bank on it.”
BankofAmerica on it…..
Nothing new to be said in NC. Won’t be reviewing his economic failures or his broken campaign promises.
The Empty Suit will speak, and the empty chairs at the DNC will be watching.
Even the heavyweights of the Democratic Party will be distancing themselves from this lackluster finale.
Finn McCool (The System isn't Broken; It's Fixed)
August 31st, 2012
3:05 pm
But that is not what makes him presidential material,
It’s that magic underwear! THATS what makes him Presidential!
I demand to see Cheesy Grits Birth Certificate- Long Form Please
August 31st, 2012
3:05 pm
He pays more taxes per year than you could hope to pay in your entire lifetime, Cheesy.
At half the rate I pay.
EJ Moosa
August 31st, 2012
3:06 pm
TBS,
TV is not the way most of us get this news anymore. You may need a new way to measure how the messages get distributed.
Tealiban Party
August 31st, 2012
3:06 pm
Metro Coach
August 31st, 2012
2:49 pm
2. Obama commissioned Simpson-Bowles and then spit on their recommendations, so what difference does Simpson-Bowles make?
WRONG!
Ryan advised Republicans to work against Simpson-Bowles, and even voted against it.
http://articles.cnn.com/2012-08-30/politics/politics_fact-check-ryan-debt-commission_1_bowles-simpson-paul-ryan-bowles-and-simpson
ragnar danneskjold
August 31st, 2012
3:06 pm
Eastwood must have been pretty good – the left is going nuts. OK, short trip, I know.
Finn McCool (The System isn't Broken; It's Fixed)
August 31st, 2012
3:08 pm
You cons feel strapped to that roof of the car, yet?
Ya’ll sound a bit winded…..
I demand to see Cheesy Grits Birth Certificate- Long Form Please
August 31st, 2012
3:08 pm
He pays more taxes per year than you could hope to pay in your entire lifetime, Cheesy.
At half the rate I pay.
But I’m sure that doesn’t bother you.
Because the average middle class guy should pay twice the rate as Romney.
To subsidize that third house in Aspen LOL. Or maybe a nice Car elevator.
Tealiban Party
August 31st, 2012
3:08 pm
Metro Coach
August 31st, 2012
2:49 pm
3. He didn’t lie about Janesville. The plant closed in April 2009, which is after Obama took office. Further, in his comments, all he did was quote the president nearly word for word. I know the “fact checkers” claim he lied, but when you read the transcripts that gets debunked rather quickly.
WRONG!
Funny, here is a Madison Wisc. NBC report from June 2008 reporting the closing of the plant.
http://www.nbc15.com/home/headlines/19465899.html
They BOTH suck
August 31st, 2012
3:09 pm
EJ
Nice spin, but 17M is a significant number.
And to be “fair and balanced”, the Democrats will suffer the same fate next week.
Vast majority of the electorate are still voting for Ds and Rs, but the politicians and hardcore bases are fools to think that people are voting for much more than the “lesser of two evils”.
Finn McCool (The System isn't Broken; It's Fixed)
August 31st, 2012
3:10 pm
Simpson-Bowles was voted down so it never made it out of the panel — it never made it to the House for a vote.
Tealiban Party
August 31st, 2012
3:10 pm
Metro Coach
August 31st, 2012
2:49 pm
4. America’s spending problem is what led to the credit downgrade, and the president has spent more money during his administration than every other president combined. I’d say that the Dems were a pretty big reason for the credit downgrade.
WRONG!
Reason for the downgrade? Congressional dysfunction. Paul Ryan — one of the GOP leaders of the dysfunctional Congress.
http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/Politics/2011/0806/S-P-downgrade-of-US-credit-rating-sends-clear-message-to-Congress-shape-up
They BOTH suck
August 31st, 2012
3:10 pm
Rags
Remember that next week when you are weeping as usual on both this blog and Bookman’s.
Just saying
Tiberius - pulling the tail of the left AND right when needed
August 31st, 2012
3:11 pm
“But I’m sure that doesn’t bother you.”
Not one damned bit, Cheesy.
Unlike you, I have no wealth envy. Unlike you, I do not covet my neighbor’s success.
Jefferson
August 31st, 2012
3:11 pm
Romney hasn’t paid taxes in 10 years, you boys are in love again.
Will
August 31st, 2012
3:12 pm
Governor Romney laid out a vision and promise that is a breathtaking mirror of the Bush administration. Did you hear anything in Governor Romney’s acceptance speech that represented a clear break from a republican administration that drove our economy into the deepest ditch since the Great Depresssion??.
So………our choices this November will be to repeat the failures of eight years of the Bush administration or to repeat the failures of the four years of the Obama administration.
How in the world could we end up with two candidates that not only represent failures of the recent economic past but two candidates who promise to continue those failures if elected? Two nice guys, good family men. Both representing and promoting proven policies of economic failure.
I want a “do over”.
md
August 31st, 2012
3:12 pm
” Not to mention two wars he didn’t start.”
And that’s the neat thing about choices……he had the choice to end them the day he took office. He caught a break on Iraq as that agreement was already signed so all he had to do was follow it. Afghanistan……that baby is ALL his once he made the choice NOT to pull out when he took over…..
That’s just fact………..
southpaw
August 31st, 2012
3:13 pm
Jefferson @3:11
Did you hear that from Harry Reid? I’m still waiting for him to say where HE heard it.
Jefferson
August 31st, 2012
3:13 pm
t/d is more worried about the folks bearly making a living that pay no federal income taxes, poor envey I guess.
Reality
August 31st, 2012
3:13 pm
Here is what Romney wants to protect….
http://realestate.msn.com/-10-crazy-home-improvements-of-the-ridiculously-rich
Tiberius - pulling the tail of the left AND right when needed
August 31st, 2012
3:13 pm
“Romney hasn’t paid taxes in 10 years, you boys are in love again.”
Please provide any proof whatsoever that this statement is true, Jefferson.
Tealiban Party
August 31st, 2012
3:13 pm
Metro Coach
August 31st, 2012
2:49 pm
. I know the “fact checkers” claim he lied, but when you read the transcripts that gets debunked rather quickly.
In the words of the Romney campaign team, “We’re not going let our campaign be dictated by fact-checkers…”
Aquagirl
August 31st, 2012
3:14 pm
Eastwood must have been pretty good – the left is going nuts.
Rags, were you that kid in school who never learned the difference between your classmates laughing with you and your classmates laughing at you?
Jefferson
August 31st, 2012
3:14 pm
md, the titanic was the captains baby after it hit the iceburg too.
Johnny P
August 31st, 2012
3:14 pm
Great now that the rodeo is over I can turn my TV back on. Thanks for informing me Kyle.
Hillbilly D
August 31st, 2012
3:15 pm
On Wednesday night, more Americans tuned in to watch the reality TV show “Honey Boo Boo Child” than the Republican Convention.
I’ll take your word for it but I’m guessing the results will be pretty much the same for the Democratic Convention. Most folks have no interest in watching either one.
Jefferson
August 31st, 2012
3:15 pm
You prove it false.
They BOTH suck
August 31st, 2012
3:16 pm
md
He had no choice but the follow the agreement for Iraq. The date was set when the negotiations broke down between the Bush Administration and the Iraqi government because Iraq didn’t want to allow immunity for our servicemen. Early on Obama was rebuked as well, if I am not mistaken.
And that is just fact
Tiberius - pulling the tail of the left AND right when needed
August 31st, 2012
3:18 pm
“Governor Romney laid out a vision and promise that is a breathtaking mirror of the Bush administration.”
Obviously, listening is not one of the skills you developed in life, is it, Will?
“Did you hear anything in Governor Romney’s acceptance speech that represented a clear break from a republican administration that drove our economy into the deepest ditch since the Great Depresssion??. ”
One, while the Bush administration was in office during the recession, his actions did not cause it. Two, yes, I heard a lot of things that were different from Bush’s administration.
A. A defined energy plan to harness ALL our available energy sources by 2020.
B. Cutting regulations that slow down business expansion and creation.
C. Cut Federal spending to 20% of GDP.
D. Expand educational opportunities to help train our workforce for the 21st century.
You heard them, too, Will.
You just didn’t listen.
They BOTH suck
August 31st, 2012
3:19 pm
HillyBilly D @ 3:15
Exactly. It will be a flop like this week in terms of the viewing audience except for the tried and true bases that for the most part are not going to vote against “their” party come “hell or highwater”
md
August 31st, 2012
3:19 pm
On Eastwood…….I was just happy to see the guy up and moving at 82…..he already won the minute he got out of bed. Some of us take stuff like that for granted………
Reality
August 31st, 2012
3:20 pm
@Hillbilly D
Don’t take my word for it. Here it is…
http://theclicker.today.com/_news/2012/08/30/13575475-honey-boo-boo-ratings-top-republican-national-convention?ocid=ansmsnbc11
Tiberius - pulling the tail of the left AND right when needed
August 31st, 2012
3:20 pm
Oh, I see, Jefferson. We’re playing the “Let’s make up stories we can’t back up” game today, are we?
OK.
Jefferson wears bright pink women’s panties every day of the week.
YOU prove that false.
southpaw
August 31st, 2012
3:20 pm
Jefferson @3:14
So did Captain Smith have a chance to choose not to hit the iceberg, as President Obama had a chance to choose whether to leave troops in Afghanistan?
Steve
August 31st, 2012
3:20 pm
Obama is going to destroy Robme in the debates. Now THAT I’m looking forward to
md
August 31st, 2012
3:21 pm
“md, the titanic was the captains baby after it hit the iceburg too.”
And? The Titanic had only ONE captain…….had another been on board at the time maybe he would have changed course sooner……..
They BOTH suck
August 31st, 2012
3:22 pm
Reality
I don’t think HillBilly had an issue with what you posted. He merely said that it would probably be the same next week because most people are not interested.
I agree.
They are “infomercials” designed to rally the base.
Whoopers were probably told this week and they will be many coming next week
md
August 31st, 2012
3:22 pm
“He had no choice but the follow the agreement for Iraq.”
Which is what I said……that choice was made for him…..
Tiberius - pulling the tail of the left AND right when needed
August 31st, 2012
3:23 pm
Reality, you don’t understand ratings, do you?
That stupid reality show did better than each INDIVIDUAL network (broadcast or cable), but didn’t beat the total amount of viewers.
So technically, more people watched the GOP convention than that stupid reality show.
Tealiban Party
August 31st, 2012
3:26 pm
A. A defined energy plan to harness ALL our available energy sources by 2020.
“President Obama has a real strategy to take control of our energy future and finally reduce our dependence on foreign oil—an all-of-the-above approach to developing all our energy resources.”
http://www.barackobama.com/energy-info/
Lil' Barry Bailout - Vote American
August 31st, 2012
3:26 pm
Funny–we’ve never heard any stories about how Obozo helped others or gave of himself in any cause other than his own self-promotion.
Obozo: Selfish, cold, and uncaring.
Jefferson
August 31st, 2012
3:27 pm
The captain took over the helm After the ship had a hole in it. Tough when you can’t trust those in charge before you take over.
Tell the pervert to quit looking at my drawers.
They BOTH suck
August 31st, 2012
3:27 pm
Reality
Watch for the same exact pattern next week. Ratings every night will be down from 2008 and like this week the number watching will go up on the last night.
HDB
August 31st, 2012
3:28 pm
Tiberius – pulling the tail of the left AND right when needed
August 31st, 2012
3:18 pm
Question: How do you see an EXPANSION of educational opportunities when natiowide, educational spending is being CUT!! How do you plan to expand the economy by CONTRACTION!!?? Austerity doesn’t work!! EVERY President (including Reagan and Bush) used stimulus spending in economic downturns…..but when Obama does the same thing, the Tea Party comes into existence!! As I’ve asked before (and have yet to get a cogent answer): Where was the Tea Party when the nation was getting BUSHwhacked??
Tiberius - pulling the tail of the left AND right when needed
August 31st, 2012
3:28 pm
““President Obama has a real strategy to take control of our energy future and finally reduce our dependence on foreign oil—an all-of-the-above approach to developing all our energy resources.””
And he’s actually BEEN in office for almost 4 years, Tealiban, and he’s done – what – about that plan?
NOTHING!
Hillbilly D
August 31st, 2012
3:28 pm
TBS, Reality
It’s correct that I had no issue with the original post about how many people were watching……and for the record, I don’t even know who Honey Boo Boo is, nor do I care.
Which is what I said……that choice was made for him…..
That’s true and it was the Iraqis who did the choosing, from my understanding.
Tealiban Party
August 31st, 2012
3:29 pm
B. Cutting regulations that slow down business expansion and creation.
“President Obama and Vice President Biden launch the Campaign to Cut Waste, which will hunt down and eliminate misspent tax dollars in every agency and department across the Federal Government.”
http://www.whitehouse.gov/21stcenturygov/actions/21st-century-regulatory-system
Reality
August 31st, 2012
3:29 pm
@Tiberius – Wow.
So you really think that what YOU wrote (and supposedly what Romney said?) is different from Bush’s economy? Wow.
A. A defined energy plan to harness ALL our available energy sources by 2020… Bush wanted to “drill baby drill” – I think was the catch phrase. This was to use “American” resources. Wasn’t it?
B. Cutting regulations that slow down business expansion and creation… Bush did this, in particular with Banks. Don’t you remember what happened? He cut the regulations and the “red tape” to make business “better.” Let me remind you that what happened was massive corruption and massive stealing from the middle class. Oh yeah – but Bush’s friends made out like bandits – literally.
C. Cut Federal spending to 20% of GDP… Bush did cut federal spending of sorts. He cut out a lot of the “big spending” on the social safety net – which by the way is less than 1% of the federal budget. LOL!
D. Expand educational opportunities to help train our workforce for the 21st century… I guess this means allowing those private colleges to steal more of the education loan dollars from unsuspecting people? How much you want to bet that Romney (or some other big wig republican) has stock in Phoenix University or the like?
I challenge you to wake up and to think for yourself. It is a scary proposition, but you will be better off for it!
Tealiban Party
August 31st, 2012
3:32 pm
C. Cut Federal spending to 20% of GDP.
Top Romney economic adviser GlennHubbard reiterates that he would aim to reduce federal spending from roughly twenty-four per cent of G.D.P. in fiscal 2012 to twenty per cent by 2016. Romney hasn’t spelled out how he would reach this target, but simple arithmetic suggests he would need to impose about five hundred billion dollars in annual spending cuts, which is equivalent to more than three per cent of G.D.P.
http://www.americanthinker.com/2012/08/could_federal_spending_reach_20_of_gdp_by_2016.html#ixzz259bWgKVW
Tiberius - pulling the tail of the left AND right when needed
August 31st, 2012
3:33 pm
“How do you see an EXPANSION of educational opportunities when natiowide, educational spending is being CUT!!”
Don’t mistake local cuts in education with a plan to help educate from the Federal level. In addition, don’t confuse throwing money down the current rathole of education with creating a plan to better educate our people.
” How do you plan to expand the economy by CONTRACTION!!??”
Contracting the Federal government is the first step towards expansion of the private sector. Government doesn’t create permanent private sector jobs, by and large.
“Austerity doesn’t work!!”
Hasn’t been tried here, HDB.
“EVERY President (including Reagan and Bush) used stimulus spending in economic downturns…..but when Obama does the same thing, the Tea Party comes into existence!!” Because he used too much and didn’t do diddly about the consequences of his actions.
“Where was the Tea Party when the nation was getting BUSHwhacked??”
Growing.
Reality
August 31st, 2012
3:33 pm
@Tiberius -
Let me quote the headline of the article for you, since you seem to be a rather dense and slow individual….
” ‘Honey Boo Boo’ Ratings Top the Republican National Convention.”
Now, let’s see how you back track out of this one. LOL!
I Report (-: You Whine )-: mmm, mmmm, mmmmm! Just sayin...
August 31st, 2012
3:34 pm
Oprah was crying and so was I.
He stung your ass, libs, hows it feel?
MrLiberty
August 31st, 2012
3:35 pm
Summary – EPIC fail. As always platitudes about freedom, liberty, small government and then crapping all over the only folks in the room that actually support those principles – the Ron Paul delegates.
The large numbers of independents, democrats, and principled libertarians that Ron Paul drew to the party are now gone – likely lost forever. They have been burned far too many times by the Rothchild/Rockefeller/Bush/Goldman Sachs elite that rule the GOP. Time to find freedom elsewhere. The GOP clearly just wants to destroy the US and bring the rest of the world down with it. Hang on folks, things are going to get a WHOLE LOT WORSE before they get any better.
Romney=Bush=Dole=Ford=McCain=Obama=suffering for the american people.
@@
August 31st, 2012
3:36 pm
Well, Romney didn’t part the oceans or heal the planets…that’s for sure.
Let’s get this out of the way: He wasn’t the best speaker of the week. He might not even have been in the top 5.
I couldn’t help but chuckle when I read ^^^ that.
A friend of mine (Fayette countian) had talked with a Sheriff down near Macon. He asked the Sheriff if he knew Victor Hill personally, saying he was surprised he’d won in Clayton County.
The sheriff said he wasn’t surprised at all. Above all else, Victor Hill was a gifted orator…a lousy sheriff and corrupt sob, but an accomplished orator.
I’ve seen him speak and the sheriff’s right.
Tealiban Party
August 31st, 2012
3:36 pm
D. Expand educational opportunities to help train our workforce for the 21st century.
“This week, the Chairman of the Budget Committee in the US House of Representatives, Paul Ryan (R-WI), released the House Republican’s budget proposal for fiscal year 2013 – A Path to Prosperity. In general, this budget proposes to spend 33% less than the President’s budget on the areas of education, training, employment and social services and make major changes to Medicaid.”
http://www.policyinsider.org/2012/03/house-republicans-budget-likely-means-cuts-to-education-.html
I demand to see Cheesy Grits Birth Certificate- Long Form Please
August 31st, 2012
3:37 pm
He stung your ass, libs, hows it feel?
Didn’t sting at all.
I felt sorry for him.
md
August 31st, 2012
3:37 pm
“The captain took over the helm After the ship had a hole in it. Tough when you can’t trust those in charge before you take over.”
He never “took over”…..he was ALWAYS the guy in charge regardless of who was steering at the time.
Obama isn’t conducting the war in Afghanistan either…….so are you saying it is all on the generals??
Tiberius - pulling the tail of the left AND right when needed
August 31st, 2012
3:39 pm
Reality, you may not believe this, but I am not even remotely a GWB fan.
Bush “wanted” – operative word here – to drill, baby, drill. Never got around to it. Romney succeeds in everything he does. He will drill, but he’ll also expand coal, wind, solar and nuclear for a comprehensive energy plan.
Deregulation was not the ultimate cause of our financial meltdown, except for the deregulation that was caused by the repeal of Glass-Steagall (and yes, both Republicans AND Democrats voted for that disaster).
And Bush NEVER cut spending. Ever.
And if Romney has any stock in private educational institutions, he doesn’t know about them, as his money is managed via a blind trust, and has been for years
Tiberius - pulling the tail of the left AND right when needed
August 31st, 2012
3:41 pm
“Now, let’s see how you back track out of this one.”
No backtracking needed, Reality, as I actually read AND understood the article.
You? Not so much.
Tiberius - pulling the tail of the left AND right when needed
August 31st, 2012
3:43 pm
“Romney hasn’t spelled out how he would reach this target, but simple arithmetic suggests . . . ”
There’s your problem, Tealiban.
You don’t do an economic solution using simple arithmetic.
Unless you’re a liberal.
md
August 31st, 2012
3:43 pm
“The ratings for TLC’s increasingly popular show, “Here Comes Honey Boo Boo,” skyrocketed Thursday night for the show’s fourth episode, pulling in almost 3 million viewers….”
And people wonder why this country is going down the tubes………..that doesn’t speak well for the masses.
China and India are currently pumping out 3 times more engineers than the US and we have millions watching Honey Boo Boo………go figure.
Finn McCool (The System isn't Broken; It's Fixed)
August 31st, 2012
3:44 pm
5 Ugly Themes We Saw at the RNC Convention
alternet.org
Tealiban Party
August 31st, 2012
3:45 pm
Tiberius – pulling the tail of the left AND right when needed
August 31st, 2012
3:28 pm
And he’s actually BEEN in office for almost 4 years, Tealiban, and he’s done – what – about that plan?
U.S. energy independence is no longer just a pipe dream
5/15/2012
“Most enticing, a team of analysts and economists at Citigroup argues that the U.S., or at least North America, can achieve energy independence by 2020, as more domestic production and doubling down on conservation produce a virtuous cycle.”
http://www.usatoday.com/money/industries/energy/story/2012-05-15/1A-COV-ENERGY-INDEPENDENCE/54977254/1
Looks like Mitt just needs to continue Obama’s Energy Policy!
Lil' Barry Bailout - Vote American
August 31st, 2012
3:45 pm
Four years with zero progress on jobs.
Where’s the change?
Leaders fix problems.
Obozo runs from them or, buckle your seatbelts, forms a commission.
Tealiban Party
August 31st, 2012
3:48 pm
Tiberius – pulling the tail of the left AND right when needed
August 31st, 2012
3:43 pm
You don’t do an economic solution using simple arithmetic. Unless you’re a liberal.
But I guess the “Fuzzy Math” will work for Romney and his grand plan. That is if you are a con.
independent thinker
August 31st, 2012
3:51 pm
Kyle – I agree with you that Rubio gave a fine speech and came off very well. But tell me as a US Senator what has he and his party accomplished in the last four years besides fillibuster ever proposal by the other side? Has he passed any bills? What is his position on the Dream Act? Does he believe like Romney that all illegals should self deport?
Lil' Barry Bailout - Vote American
August 31st, 2012
3:52 pm
China and India are currently pumping out 3 times more engineers than the US
——–
Studying to become an engineer is hard work and requires self-discipline and personal responsibility. That’s not what our government schools are about. In any case, people who study are like soooo annoying. Did you hear they cancelled Jersey Shore? OMG!
Thanks for the lousy schools, Democrats.
Give'em the truth Harry
August 31st, 2012
3:52 pm
Harry just told them the truth last night but Obama and company thought it was HELL!
Aquagirl
August 31st, 2012
3:53 pm
China and India are currently pumping out 3 times more engineers than the US and we have millions watching Honey Boo Boo………go figure.
When kids play H.S. football in a $60 million stadium that kind of sends a message about academics.
Tiberius - pulling the tail of the left AND right when needed
August 31st, 2012
3:54 pm
“independent thinker”, why do you constantly ask Kyle these questions?
Google not working for you? Or do they block certain sites when you use the library’s computer?
Common Sense
August 31st, 2012
3:55 pm
Some of you are so gullible….
“According to the Hollywood Reporter, “Honey Boo Boo” scored more viewers in the key 18- to 49-year-old demographic than the RNC coverage on any one of the individual broadcast networks. But, of course, aggregate coverage of the RNC across networks topped “Honey Boo Boo’s” numbers.”
And some of you are willing to repeat things you know are lies….
HDB
August 31st, 2012
3:55 pm
Tiberius – pulling the tail of the left AND right when needed
August 31st, 2012
3:33 pm
Contracting the Federal government is the first step towards expansion of the private sector. Government doesn’t create permanent private sector jobs, by and large.
REALLY?? Defense spending and its offshoots created jobs….that’s government! Donestic spending (welfare, foodstamps, unemployment insurance) have created jobs…….
There are multiplier effects in areas of government spending, Tibs….and contraction of government spending is one reason that unemployment hasn’t SHRUNK yet!!
Austerity doesn’t work!!”Hasn’t been tried here, HDB
Actually, it IS being tried here…and it’s not working!! Government employment has FALLEN during the Obama years,,,,over 684K public sector jobs are gone….and you’re seeing the effects…
You CUT government spending in GOOD economic times…and INCREASE government spending in BAD economic times……..
Clinton CUT government spending in an economic expansion……Reagan INCREASED government spending to stave off a recession…..
md
August 31st, 2012
3:57 pm
“But tell me as a US Senator what has he and his party accomplished in the last four years besides fillibuster ever proposal by the other side? ”
Now flip parties and we have the same question……..it is a two sided coin.
They BOTH suck
August 31st, 2012
3:57 pm
Barry
Take out Atlanta and all their corruption, GA is still at the bottom of the education barrel.
Since when has GA been liberal state? Don’t be a fool as usual and say well there has only been a Repub Governor for 10 yrs.
All those Democrat governors were not liberal; any one with an objective mind knows that
Heck most of the politicians touted in GA today that are Repubs just changed names when the voting habits changed in GA.
Same stinking good ole boys now as they were when they were Democrats
Tealiban Party
August 31st, 2012
3:58 pm
Common Sense
August 31st, 2012
3:55 pm
Some of you are so gullible….
“According to the Hollywood Reporter, “Honey Boo Boo” scored more viewers in the key 18- to 49-year-old demographic than the RNC coverage on any one of the individual broadcast networks. But, of course, aggregate coverage of the RNC across networks topped “Honey Boo Boo’s” numbers.”
This is the same rationale that the cons use to say Fox News is the most watched….
They BOTH suck
August 31st, 2012
3:59 pm
Independent Thinker
Ask Kyle all the questions you like. He may not answer them, but that is your right as a blogger here.
Continue on
md
August 31st, 2012
3:59 pm
“When kids play H.S. football in a $60 million stadium that kind of sends a message about academics.”
Academics is still and always will be an individual choice………drug dealers make a boat load of money too, but it wouldn’t be the path most would recommend……..
HDB
August 31st, 2012
3:59 pm
Lil’ Barry Bailout – Vote American
August 31st, 2012
3:52 pm
China and India are currently pumping out 3 times more engineers than the US
I’m willing to bet the COST of the college education isn’t cost prohibitive…..in fact, it wouldn’t surprise me if college was FREE!!
Brazil’s public colleges are free….and they are about to increase their college educated populace by enacting AFFIRMATIVE ACTION!!
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/08/31/world/americas/brazil-enacts-affirmative-action-law-for-universities.html?src=recg
Tiberius - pulling the tail of the left AND right when needed
August 31st, 2012
4:00 pm
As with everything Obama, Tealiban, we are left wanting more.
Like execution and success.
Being the “fastest-growing” is like celebrating that we’re the tallest of the midgets.
EJ Moosa
August 31st, 2012
4:01 pm
” But, of course, aggregate coverage of the RNC across networks topped “Honey Boo Boo’s” numbers.”
Actually it is a shame that one group reports inaccurately, and that others, who should know better, do not question every single “fact” that they report.
Truth will be sacrificed if it supports the re-election of Obama.
Tiberius - pulling the tail of the left AND right when needed
August 31st, 2012
4:03 pm
“Truth will be sacrificed if it supports the re-election of Obama.”
And truer words were never spoken.
Common Sense
August 31st, 2012
4:04 pm
This is the same rationale that the cons use to say Fox News is the most watched…
The same rationale? Tell us how. What sort of math are you using?
We were talking about an even across multiple channels compared to one show.
Fox compares one show to another.
md
August 31st, 2012
4:04 pm
“in fact, it wouldn’t surprise me if college was FREE!!”
It would definitely surprise me considering there is nothing that is “free”. Many countries in Europe include college as an entitlement, but they also have a tax rate around 50%……
Problem over here is folks want it to be “free” as long as others are paying for it………
Michael H. Smith
August 31st, 2012
4:06 pm
Truth will be sacrificed if it supports the re-election of Obama.
There aren’t enough altar in the world for that slaughter to take place.
southpaw
August 31st, 2012
4:10 pm
Tealiban @3:58
So is that rationale right or wrong? Did the RNC actually outpace Honey Boo Boo?
Tiberius - pulling the tail of the left AND right when needed
August 31st, 2012
4:12 pm
Now it’s off to provide some non-government (as in efficient and without using debt) stimulus for the economy.
Keep the liberals herded, folks. They get a bit wild and wooly when some of us aren’t around to keep them (relatively) honest.
Michael H. Smith
August 31st, 2012
4:12 pm
Brazil’s public colleges are free….and they are about to increase their college educated populace by enacting AFFIRMATIVE ACTION!!
Yeah and that is the way socialist liberals LIE brucie!!
Nothing is FREE, not even in Communist countries. Somebody or many somebodies are paying for that state education in Brazil that you are so-calling “FREE”.
Obama is over
August 31st, 2012
4:18 pm
I didn’t watch all of the convention, but REALLY enjoyed watching the usual suspects in the AJC blog universe freak out over and over again- particularly after Ryan’s speech. The Obama team is scared. One conclusion of the convention is that the GOP has a much deeper bench than the Dems do. The only response the Dems have are personal attacks and the race card. Americans can see through that BS. Paul Ryan, Susana Martinez, Marco Rubio, Mitch Daniels, Bobby Jindal, Chris Christie are actually accomplishing things at the state level that Obama only dreams of. Just compare what is going on in Obama’s home state of Illinois to the surrounding state’s led by Republican Governors. Looking at the Charlotte convention speaker’s list makes you realize that Bill Clinton is the best member of their team and he isn’t running for office. Hillary will be far away from Charlotte. The Pelosi/Reid crowd are out of ideas, basically corrupt, and intellectually bankrupt. The next generation of Democratic leaders- Sandra Fluke, Lily Ledbetter, and Snooki (that Life of Julia character)- well we know what they have accomplished and it certainly won’t get the U.S. out of recession. The other big take away from the GOP convention for me is that Obama and his team can’t handle criticism. They have been sheltered by a friendly media, but when they are confronted with facts- like the fundamental flaws in Obamacare math- they try to blame Bush or play the race card. You are right that Romney is not the best speaker. However, when he outlined his five point agenda, he made sense and gave more detail than Obama has in four years. George (Ooompa Loompa) Stephanopolous will lob Obama softball social issue questions during the debates because he knows that Obama can’t handle questions about the economy (You didn’t build that), international affairs ( I will be more flexible when not running for office), energy ( $billions of program losses Keystone pipeline, private sector shale dominance), and the ability to accomplish bipartisan legislation ( No Federal budget for his entire term, fiscal cliff). Regardless of race, gender, or sexual orientation, Ryan’s image of the 20 something year old college grad living in Mom and Pop’s basement frustrated about not being able to find a job is a sad memorable reflection of the Obama years. Obama has disappointed his backers from 2008 and has no plan for the future. The country can no longer afford to have a union puppet trying to adhere to yesterday’s business models or we will never get out of this recession. Obama is over his head is it is time for amateur hour to end.
Lil' Barry Bailout - Vote American
August 31st, 2012
5:12 pm
WSB had a man-on-the-street interview with an Obozo supporter who complained that President Romney “didn’t know what it’s like to be black because he’s been in business his whole life”.
Sad.
Ray
August 31st, 2012
5:19 pm
The biggest hurdle for Republicans has always been it’s extreme platform. Most republican voters support a women’s right to chose.
Lil' Barry Bailout - Vote American
August 31st, 2012
5:21 pm
HDB: I’m willing to bet the COST of the college education isn’t cost prohibitive…..in fact, it wouldn’t surprise me if college was FREE!!
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Point? Even our most expensive schools have many times more applicants than spots available.
There are probably two issues with our universities: Poorly prepared incoming freshmen, and students choosing lame majors with no future in terms of gainful employment.
DebbieDoRight - Dixie Chicks, Eleanor Roosevelt, Hillary Clinton, and Rosetta Scott King -- Unafraid To Say It; Unafraid To Do The Right Thing...
August 31st, 2012
5:30 pm
The message from the RNC, Cheese, was more JOBS
In China and India………
hsn
August 31st, 2012
5:33 pm
The Voting Rights Act
SEC. 4. (a) To assure that the right of citizens of the United States to vote is not denied or abridged on account of race or color, no citizen shall be denied the right to vote in any Federal, State, or local election because of his failure to comply with any test or device in any State
(c) The phrase “test or device” shall mean any requirement that a person as a prerequisite for voting or registration for voting
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=87NN5sdqNt8
Lil' Barry Bailout - Vote American
August 31st, 2012
5:33 pm
Obozo’s been working on jobs for four year, right? Guess what–there are fewer of them today than the day he took office.
Rafe Hollister, suffering through Oblamer's ineptocracy
August 31st, 2012
5:38 pm
Mission accomplished, used it again, GOP established that we can do better than the Mistake.
The best line of the whole thing was Romney saying that the Obama philosophy is the same old big government solutions that have failed no matter where in the world they have been tried.
He said Obama big government solutions are what other people come here to get away from.
Kinda puts the old lib line about trickle down doesn’t work in perspective. Trickle down worked from 80 to 2007, pretty well I would say.
Rafe Hollister, suffering through Oblamer's ineptocracy
August 31st, 2012
5:41 pm
Isn’t it sad that the best you ever felt about voting for Obama, was when you were leaving the polling place.
Lil' Barry Bailout - Vote American
August 31st, 2012
5:42 pm
A whole bunch of government-run economies crashed, burned, and disappeared during that time, eh, Rafe.
getalife
August 31st, 2012
5:53 pm
The best part was when Clint said our President told robme to go f himself in front of the world.
Basically, a filthy rich guy lying about helping the middle class is one big joke.
They BOTH suck
August 31st, 2012
5:54 pm
“Isn’t it sad that the best you ever felt about voting for Obama, was when you were leaving the polling place.”
Are you speaking for other people or is that based on personal experience?
getalife
August 31st, 2012
6:39 pm
This sums it up:
http://www.trbimg.com/img-50406939/turbine/la-na-tt-romneys-convention-20120831-001/600
Rafe Hollister, suffering through Oblamer's ineptocracy
August 31st, 2012
7:00 pm
Both suck
Are you speaking for other people or is that based on personal experience?
Based on what people tell me. I have run into many who voted for Obama and plan to correct the Mistake this time. Haven’t had anyone tell me they voted for McCain and are sorry.
I have a good friend, who caught a great deal of grief over his vote for Obama. He was trying to justify it in Dec/Jan 2008, and he said he was so sick of Bush that he thought we needed a change. When he was asked about Obama’s radical promise to fundamentally change the America we love, his response was, can’t happen, Presidents never get to do much because of Congress. He said he wasn’t inline with Obama on much, but thought, he was a nice guy and would be mostly ineffective, so what difference did it make.
Well he has seen enough damage, to finally admit he made a terrible mistake.
Rafe Hollister, suffering through Oblamer's ineptocracy
August 31st, 2012
7:05 pm
Who the heck is Rosetta Scott King, I thought it was Coretta Scott King. I had a friend that named his daughter Coretta in her honor, did he screw it up?
Lil' Barry Bailout - Vote American
August 31st, 2012
7:06 pm
DNC 2012: Dumbing it down
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Watch the libtards and whack jobs pander to the loser class, promising to deliver the freebies and handouts, and stick it to the productive class.
Bruno
August 31st, 2012
7:06 pm
First, Clint Eastwood’s performance is a good example of why (I presume) he insists that the actors in his movies follow a script. There were some grand moments in there — “You, we, we own this country. … Politicians are employees of ours” being one of them — and the image of President Obama as an empty chair is going to have staying power in this campaign. But his 12-minute bit could have been done in much less time and been even more effective. As rambling and bizarre as Eastwood was at times, I don’t think he hurt Mitt Romney with his performance. He just didn’t help as much as he might have.
I tuned in to MSNBC late last night, and all I heard was how Clint Eastwood totally bombed. Ditto on yahoo.com this AM. I just watched the piece in its entirety, and quite frankly, I laughed my butt off–WITH Eastwood, and not AT him. He made numerous solid points and cut a few good jokes in between.
All I can say is that the Libs in this country are a bunch of tight-arses. The man was funny, give him his due.
Bruno
August 31st, 2012
7:11 pm
As for Romney’s speech, I only caught the end, and I thought it was fine. The best point to me was how he emphasized that we are the UNITED States of America, emphasis on UNITED. Since Day 1, Obama has gone out of his way to subdivide the country into special-interest groups based on race, wealth, political affinity, or what-have-ya. IMO, this has been extremely harmful to the collective psyche of the nation. We’ve come full circle from Kennedy’s “Ask what you can do for the country” back to “What can the country do for you??”
Don’t know about the rest of you, but I’m sick and tired of Obama and Libs in general. Bunch of whining losers in my book.
Lil' Barry Bailout - Vote American
August 31st, 2012
7:11 pm
Bruno, the libtard media script is pretty much written before the convention even takes place. Doesn’t matter how good the speeches are, it’s all doom, gloom, and fraudulent fact-checking.
Bruno
August 31st, 2012
7:15 pm
Watch the libtards and whack jobs pander to the loser class, promising to deliver the freebies and handouts, and stick it to the productive class.
LBB–Our experiment with “Governance By the Weak” has been a total failure in my book. Like the proverbial crabs in the bucket, the collective goal of the Libs has been to pull down the high earners, to make us all the same. I say let those high achieving crabs climb out of the bucket, and pull a bunch of us other crabs with them.
Lil' Barry Bailout - Vote American
August 31st, 2012
7:16 pm
Michelle Obama Presents Course: ‘Supermarket Shopping 101′
(CNSNews.com) – As part of her anti-obesity Let’s Move campaign, First Lady Michelle Obama is now presenting a brief online course: “Supermarket Shopping 101.”
The course, which now appears on the letsmove.gov website, provides novice shoppers with tips such as “steer clear of the cookie, snack and soda aisle.”
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Hey moron Democrats, don’t forget to wipe after the morning constitutional too! Just in case you need help with that too.
Patty
August 31st, 2012
7:17 pm
Lord have mercy, you demos keep harping on Bush driving US into a depression when the truth is it was the demo congress. Just ask Representative Frank who tossed Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac down the toilet and brought the housing market to it’s knees.
Bruno
August 31st, 2012
7:18 pm
Bruno, the libtard media script is pretty much written before the convention even takes place. Doesn’t matter how good the speeches are, it’s all doom, gloom, and fraudulent fact-checking.
Believe it or not, LBB, I thought the fairest Lib commentator on MSNBC last night was the Right Reverend Al Sharpton. Though he disagreed with the thrust of Romney’s speech, he was honest enough to say that Romney delivered well. In contrast, I thought Rachael Maddow did pretty much what you described. She planned to pan Romney’s speech no matter what based upon her own biases.
Lil' Barry Bailout - Vote American
August 31st, 2012
7:19 pm
I say let those high achieving crabs climb out of the bucket, and pull a bunch of us other crabs with them.
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Some will, Bruno, and unfortunately it’s the very highest achieving ones who are most likely to make the leap.
Bruno
August 31st, 2012
7:21 pm
Lord have mercy, you demos keep harping on Bush driving US into a depression when the truth is it was the demo congress. Just ask
Patty–Though it’s intellectually easier to tie the state of the economy to one person–the President–I think a much stronger correlation exists between the state of the economy and who controls Congress. In the past 50 years or so, we have done far better with Republican dominated Congresses.
http://uspolitics.about.com/od/usgovernment/l/bl_party_division_2.htm
Bruno
August 31st, 2012
7:24 pm
In honor of Obama’s divisive Presidency, here’s my first song selection of the evening.
BTW, Kyle, good job on holding off on a new thread. My personal suggestion is to break out a new thread on Sat morning to allow us to unwind on Fri night with a little music. Too bad my buddy JamVet won’t be around to contribute.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vf8jvSPA3XQ
Patty
August 31st, 2012
7:26 pm
“Kyle – I agree with you that Rubio gave a fine speech and came off very well. But tell me as a US Senator what has he and his party accomplished in the last four years besides fillibuster ever proposal by the other side? Has he passed any bills?”
Probably more than Obama did while he was in the Senate.
Bruno
August 31st, 2012
7:27 pm
He was trying to justify it in Dec/Jan 2008, and he said he was so sick of Bush that he thought we needed a change.
Rafe–Obama’s primary qualification to be President was that he wasn’t Bush. He certainly had no other substantial qualifications to award him the most important job on the planet.
A lot of Libs are still predicting an Obama landslide based on Romney’s inability to connect well with people, but I think people are going to vote with their wallets this go round.
Lil' Barry Bailout - Vote American
August 31st, 2012
7:32 pm
Inability to connect? I’m not looking for a damn soulmate, I’m looking for a President who can fix unemployment, the deficit, out of control entitlement spending, and get our AAA credit rating back.
Bruno
August 31st, 2012
7:32 pm
For my buddy, Jam, in case he’s tuning in:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UsS4FVP-uFI
My favorite Todd Rundgren song ^^^^^
Kyle Wingfield
August 31st, 2012
7:32 pm
Bruno @ 7:24: Well, I actually just published Sunday’s column upstairs. But y’all are welcome to keep the music going on this thread.
Patty
August 31st, 2012
7:34 pm
Bruno–totally agree with you on each of your points. People are tired of no one trying to get this country working; we’re tired of our homes continuing to lose value and we’re tired of being told that just because we have a different opinion than they do, we must be bigots or racists or something. Whatever happened to respectfully disagreeing?
Bruno
August 31st, 2012
7:42 pm
Bruno @ 7:24: Well, I actually just published Sunday’s column upstairs. But y’all are welcome to keep the music going on this thread.
Kyle–I sincerely appreciate you tolerance for some off-topic tunes on Friday nights. It gives us a chance to connect in a different way, and unites many of us who come from radically different political perspectives.
In case you didn’t know, JamVet and I are good friends away from the blog, and it all started with a musical connection. Music makes even stranger bedfellows than politics. If you can believe it, I’m a hard-core Dead Head.
Bruno
August 31st, 2012
7:48 pm
Some Lindsey Buckingham from 1984:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oSU17vvq-Ts&feature=related
Rafe Hollister, suffering through Oblamer's ineptocracy
August 31st, 2012
7:49 pm
Bruno
I don’t normally do music, but this one is for you the music lover. I think you will like it. Failure all wrapped up in song.
http://www.youtube.com/watch_popup?v=tE0M9R1YXH0
Bruno
August 31st, 2012
7:53 pm
The original “Crystal” from Buckingham-Nicks:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oj3vayL4buo
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August 31st, 2012
7:54 pm
“The Republicans had the task at the convention of making their candidate more palatable, likeable to the American electorate,” said Ipsos pollster Julia Clark. “Our data suggests they have absolutely succeeded.”
Especially notable was Romney’s boost among independents, 45 percent of whom rated him favorably, compared with Thursday’s 34 percent. Twenty percent of independents found him likeable, up from Thursday’s 16 percent.
Although lagging behind Obama in most other favorable metrics, Romney continued to make headway in categories such as “represents America,” “understands people like me” and “is a good person.”
Respondents said Romney would be more effective than Obama as president by a margin of 37 percent to 33 percent. The margin was even wider among independents, at 26 percent versus 17 percent.
Winning “independence.”
Bruno
August 31st, 2012
7:55 pm
Rafe–Thanks for the entry, and hope you choose to continuing posting some music on Fridays. It gives us a chance to see other sides of the posters. I just hope that Kyle might find a way to let us keep the fun going without cutting into his new threads.
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August 31st, 2012
8:00 pm
Oops! Just saw where this is now the music thread.
Don’t have any tonight.
PlatinumBlack
August 31st, 2012
8:08 pm
I am so freakin’ tired. Bruno says to that, “Let the music wash over you!” The only thing I want washing over me right now is a night of good sleep.
http://youtu.be/ckw4okeUzxE
Bruno
August 31st, 2012
8:13 pm
For my love:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GH-uW-LxNpE
Hillbilly D
August 31st, 2012
8:24 pm
Since this is now an open thread (at least I reckon it is) thought I’d post this…..
http://articles.chicagotribune.com/2012-08-21/news/ct-met-five-dollar-doctor-20120821_1_medical-care-fee-dohner
Hillbilly D
August 31st, 2012
8:25 pm
And this…….
http://www.gainesvilletimes.com/archives/68603/
Hillbilly D
August 31st, 2012
10:52 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G2N7fB0EDP4
Hillbilly D
August 31st, 2012
11:31 pm
I don’t go much for covers but this guy did an excellent job with this one.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-gmSbyzVnmM&list=UUJmxZseHt7GcD0Y4qXCrjbg&index=2&feature=plcp
Bruno
August 31st, 2012
11:39 pm
At least as good as the original, HD ^^^^^.
I think you’ve posted some other stuff by that guy. Have to give you big points for breaking out of your favorite genre (country).
Bruno
August 31st, 2012
11:42 pm
This chick has been doing a lot of country these days, and pulls it off well:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TENV8IhpZ2A
Hillbilly D
August 31st, 2012
11:49 pm
Bruno
Actually if I have a favorite genre, it’s probably bluegrass (the real thing not this newer stuff). I’ve always liked all kinds of music; I wasn’t the first one to say it but theirs just two kinds, good and bad. I just always felt like FNM was too narrowly focused. That’s why I posted more country stuff, trying to get folks to broaden their horizons. There were only a couple folks there who could really get eclectic.
Mainly my listening shifts by mood. May be one thing now, something else an hour from now.
Enough of that….Nothing sounds quite like a B3. (Volume is a little low)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u7aKgjLqk3w&feature=related
Bruno
August 31st, 2012
11:54 pm
Actually if I have a favorite genre, it’s probably bluegrass (the real thing not this newer stuff).
I’ve always had a great liking for bluegrass as well. As you know well, my man Jerry Garcia was a big fan also.
There were only a couple folks there who could really get eclectic.
JamMan was eclectic, as long as it was a Todd Rundgren song.
For my missing buddy:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cbdU9gXeF7w&feature=related
Bruno
August 31st, 2012
11:58 pm
Enough of that….Nothing sounds quite like a B3. (Volume is a little low)
Jamming to your selection……Interesting discussion in the comments section about glorifying God vs. glorifying the individual. I definitely hear God in this one.
Hillbilly D
September 1st, 2012
12:02 am
glorifying God vs. glorifying the individual
I’ve heard that discussion many times pertaining to shouting, being in the spirit, etc. My view is it’s not my place to judge. God will sort it out, when He sees fit. It is an interesting topic, though. I think in all religions that some folks make the mistake of following a man, rather than the religion.
But so as not to disappoint you, here’s something country. I like country the same as I like most other genres, straightforward and to the point. This is the real thing.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ET_P-RAH7FA
Bruno
September 1st, 2012
12:06 am
I hear a spiritual element in this Graham Central Station number:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mptUt0NrEi8&feature=related
Hillbilly D
September 1st, 2012
12:10 am
Bruno
A huge percentage of country, bluegrass, R & B, blues and soul musicians started out playing in church. It’s in everything.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H7T1v3DxgKg
Bruno
September 1st, 2012
12:22 am
Some classic country back at ya, from Kris’s pen to Ray’s voice:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s1ZKIX0ICZo
Bruno
September 1st, 2012
12:27 am
My favorite from Lacy J Dalton:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7hEA1Xo8iF0
Hillbilly D
September 1st, 2012
12:41 am
Here’s you some early Ray Price, written by Roger Miller.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sIhywFlD2xY
Time for me to turn into a pumpkin. Nite.
Hillbilly D
September 1st, 2012
12:43 am
Oh and see if you spot Roger in the video.