RNC 2012: Christie’s speech was better than the reviews it’s gotten
TAMPA — The consensus around here seems to be that Chris Christie might have been Tuesday’s keynote speaker, but Ann Romney stole the show from the New Jersey governor. I agree, and will have more thoughts on Mrs. Romney’s speech later. But Christie delivered exactly what I expected, and was quite good at doing so.
Christie built on a key theme developed earlier in the night by a series of Republican governors, most of them elected since Barack Obama entered the White House. Ohio’s John Kasich, Virginia’s Bob McDonnell, Wisconsin’s Scott Walker, Nevada’s Brian Sandoval and South Carolina’s Nikki Haley talked about how they’d gotten their states’ finances on track without abandoning their conservative principles, and Christie offered maybe the most dramatic examples of that:
They said it was impossible to cut taxes in a state where taxes were raised 115 times in eight years. That it was impossible to balance a budget at the same time, with an $11 billion deficit. Three years later, we have three balanced budgets with lower taxes.
We did it.
They said it was impossible to touch the third rail of politics. To take on the public sector unions and to reform a pension and health benefit system that was headed to bankruptcy.
With bipartisan leadership we saved taxpayers $132 billion over 30 years and saved retirees their pension.
We did it.
“We did it” offered a clear contrast to the untested Obama promise from 2008, “Yes, we can,” and the examples of the kinds of tough decisions he and the other governors have made offered a clear contrast to the unfulfilled promise of the three and a half years of Obama’s presidency. What Obama has been unable to do — balance, or in most years even pass, the budget; reduce both current and future obligations on taxpayers; create better conditions for the private sector to flourish — they have done. And then they all took that thought to the next step: Mitt Romney can make it work, too.
Or, as Christie put it, “if we can do this in a blue state with a conservative Republican governor, Washington is out of excuses.”
Christie has become a YouTube legend for the zingers he’s flung, off the cuff, at vocal detractors during public events. In a setting like a national convention, that opportunity wasn’t likely to present itself, and didn’t. (A few protesters were removed much earlier Tuesday evening for trying to shout down speakers from the rafters.)
But that fame hasn’t come strictly because he has a quick wit and sharp tongue. It’s because he packs principled truth into those one-liners, and he had several such moments Tuesday night:
- “They believe in teacher’s unions. We believe in teachers.”
- “You see, Mr. President, real leaders don’t follow polls. Real leaders change polls.”
- “I don’t know about you, but I don’t want my children and grandchildren to have to read in a history book what it was like to live in an American Century. I don’t want their only inheritance to be an enormous government that has overtaxed, overspent and over-borrowed a great people into second-class citizenship. I want them to live in a second American Century.”
- “This is the American way. We have never been victims of destiny. We have always been masters of our own. I won’t be part of the generation that fails that test and neither will you.”
The delivery was a little rushed — Christie had to speed up toward the end to fit it all in before the networks cut away to local news at 11 — and it wasn’t quite the kind of performance that people will still be talking about even after Paul Ryan and Mitt Romney deliver their messages the next two evenings. But it had all the elements that remind us why Christie has become a conservative champion, and why 2012 is unlikely to be the high-water mark of his influence in the party.
– By Kyle Wingfield
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I demand to see Cheesy Grits Birth Certificate- Long Form Please
August 29th, 2012
12:22 pm
Dang liberal media at it again !!!!
I demand to see Cheesy Grits Birth Certificate- Long Form Please
August 29th, 2012
12:25 pm
(A few protesters were removed much earlier Tuesday evening for trying to shout down speakers from the rafters.)
And a couple people were removed for throwing nuts at a black women and shouting ” This is how we feed animals !!! ”
Guess they were surprised to see a black person at the Republican convention.
Artazia
August 29th, 2012
12:32 pm
Christie did exactly what the keynoter is supposed to do, energize the audience. I thought he did a magnificent job.
One of the post-speech critiquers, on PBS I believe, summed it up nicely. Mrs. Romney’s mission was to reach out to prospective voters, e.g. women, and Gov. Christie’s was to solidify the existing base. They both delivered in fine fashion.
Finn McCool (The System isn't Broken; It's Fixed)
August 29th, 2012
12:33 pm
Christie accepted the nomination a bit early, no? Four years early?
Finn McCool (The System isn't Broken; It's Fixed)
August 29th, 2012
12:34 pm
Mrs. Romney’s mission was to reach out to prospective voters….
To beg them to “PLEASE, LIKE MY HUSBAND!”
Thomas Heyward Jr
August 29th, 2012
12:39 pm
“With bipartisan leadership we saved taxpayers $132 billion over 30 years and saved retirees their pension.”
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30 years huh?
Sounds like Ryan’s 27 year goal?
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Sheeeesh.
You people will fall for anything.
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It is funny though.
Cutty
August 29th, 2012
12:40 pm
Republicans believe in teachers? Lol. What a croc. Republicans believe that teachers and any other government worker is a leech that is taking money away from corporations. Just look at how teachers have been laid off in GA the last few years, while tax breaks were lavished on big business. Christie had a quote about always telling the truth as well, but even that was a lie. That’s why the media thinks his speech sucked, bc it wasn’t honest. Kyle can stay in bizarro world if he wants to. No word on the nut throwers who were kicked out either. Only some rafter yelling people that no one heard. What a hypocrite.
Finn McCool (The System isn't Broken; It's Fixed)
August 29th, 2012
12:42 pm
Which Christie?
“Fiscally Austere” Chris Christie Uses State Helicopter to Attend Son’s Baseball Game
That Christie?
Lil' Barry Bailout - Vote American
August 29th, 2012
12:46 pm
It will be no surprise that the libtards will pan a speech touting American values and beliefs.
Class of '98
August 29th, 2012
12:49 pm
Christie: “We need leaders more concerned with DOING something than BEING something.”
Amen.
Finn McCool (The System isn't Broken; It's Fixed)
August 29th, 2012
12:50 pm
It will be no surprise that the libtards will pan a speech touting American values and beliefs.…that was filled with half truths.
The Democratic legislature unanimously approved a teacher tenure reform package in June, and Christie signed it a few weeks ago. Except, for all of Christie’s fiery anti-union rhetoric, the bill was actually crafted with significant input from the state’s teachers union, which supported its passage. Again, Christie can claim some credit here for pushing the issue aggressively in the public square and making it a priority.
salon.com
What Christie Didn’t Tell You
Tom(Independent Viet Vet,USAF)
August 29th, 2012
12:52 pm
Finn – Are you on your work PC all day long, be careful someone might tell on you for wasting company time? But I almost forgot, that is what libs do, right? I wonder if we are going to have mindless protestors interrupting speakers at the DNC next week.
Lil' Barry Bailout - Vote American
August 29th, 2012
12:53 pm
Guess they were surprised to see a black person at the Republican convention.
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Narrow-mindedness and willful ignorance will do that to a person.
Finn McCool (The System isn't Broken; It's Fixed)
August 29th, 2012
12:56 pm
Question for you Republicans:
If Romney wins the White House do you Republicans think Democrats in the Senate and House should acknowledge Romney accomplishment and work with him to craft legislation that will make this country a better place?
Lil' Barry Bailout - Vote American
August 29th, 2012
12:57 pm
Finn: What Christie Didn’t Tell You
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False. Christie made it clear that the things New Jersey has done were done through bipartisanship.
Bipartisanship is possible…with competent leadership.
Finn McCool (The System isn't Broken; It's Fixed)
August 29th, 2012
12:59 pm
Sorry, Tom, where I am in life is a place that allows me to not have to worry about getting “in trouble” for being on the Internet – at any time of day.
You get that from having a good upbringing, getting a good education, incessantly expanding your skill sets, and being an active contributor. (No, I didn’t build this thing all by myself)
Try it. Start with the skill set part.
emo
August 29th, 2012
1:00 pm
Doesn’t matter; I’m sure they were both preaching to only the choir.
southpaw
August 29th, 2012
1:00 pm
Cheesy Grits @12:25
And a couple people were removed for throwing nuts at a black women and shouting ” This is how we feed animals !!! ”
Guess they were surprised to see a black person at the Republican convention.
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So the protesters, not the Republicans, are the ones who can’t distinguish between a black person and an animal. Gee…I wonder if the protesters have any political affiliation?
Lil' Barry Bailout - Vote American
August 29th, 2012
1:01 pm
Finn: Question for you Republicans
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Of course. Just as the Republican-led House has done, passing bills to reduce the deficit, create jobs, and reform entitlements.
Finn McCool (The System isn't Broken; It's Fixed)
August 29th, 2012
1:02 pm
That’s right, Lil Barry, compromise is key.
If Democrats in the NJ house had acted like the obstructionist Republicans in DC, Christie would have had NOTHING to brag on.
a dad
August 29th, 2012
1:02 pm
Finn – ideally yes, but we both know that unless Romney’s legislation satisfies the liberal agenda that the Dems in the House will veto anything and everything they can, just life the Gop’s do now. elcome to Politics 101. Our biggest problem is how polarized this country had become, and how both sides espouse a my way or the highway approach. What amazes me though is I think the ast majority of the U.S population tends to be more middle ground, yet for some reason we can’t out forward a more moderate candidate and the best we can do is put forth extremists like the current selection.
@@
August 29th, 2012
1:03 pm
Christie: “I’m here to begin with this new era of truth telling.”
In his family? “My dad was just a passenger,” quipped Christie. “My mom was in the driver’s seat.”
“I AM my mother’s son!”
Here’s hoping male voters aren’t as whiny as the liberal women.
Behind every powerful man, there’s a strong woman.
Behind every whiny “Julia”…there’s a democrat president to rock her from cradle to grave.
Finn McCool (The System isn't Broken; It's Fixed)
August 29th, 2012
1:04 pm
2nd part of my question:
Or do you think they should approach Romney’s first piece of legislation by all members of the Democrat party voting NO on it? No questions asked – no debate – just FLAT no?
And then fight him tooth and nail on every single piece of legislation Romney and the Republicans introduce with the goal of making Romney a one term president?
Rafe Hollister, suffering through Oblamer's ineptocracy
August 29th, 2012
1:05 pm
I liked Christie’s speech but at the same time was expecting more. I thought Guiliana did a better job in 2008, but then again, they lost. I think some one has decided that they are starting to pull in front and they are scared to make a mistake and attack Obama needlessly.
As Trump said on the radio yesterday, you are dealing with a deceitful liar, who in previous campaigns has fought dirty and goes for the throat, when he can. He has dug up sealed divorce records, to get his opponents disqualified, and slimmed those, he couldn’t disqualify. We know he has already had his campaign imply that Romney caused a woman to die and called him a felon. What is next?
I agree with Trump, you can’t pull your punches against this Mistake; there are few limits or governors on his vile attacks.
Class of '98
August 29th, 2012
1:06 pm
Hey Kyle, you should do a column concerning the use of the term “inhuman” for Mitt Romney, as a column in the Washington Post calls him today.
Can you imagine if a conservative called Obama “inhuman”? My gosh, there would be riots in the streets.
Finn McCool (The System isn't Broken; It's Fixed)
August 29th, 2012
1:07 pm
a dad,
Obama’s signature bill – ACA – is based on Conservative plans. Trumpeted by Heritage Foundation and enacted by Mittens, himself.
How many Republican votes did he get? See, for Republicans it doesn’t have anything to do with “doing what’s best” for the people.
Interested Observer
August 29th, 2012
1:08 pm
Republicans always argue that tax cuts, cuts to government spending, and balanced budgets will unleash the economy and create jobs. How has that worked out in New Jersey? The unemployment rate has gone up since Christie took office. UP! Mr. Christie forgot to mention that:
“There’s one number New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie almost certainly won’t mention in his keynote speech Tuesday night at the Republican National Convention: 9.8 percent, his state’s current unemployment rate.
That dwarfs the troubling 8.3 percent national unemployment rate under President Barack Obama. And while the national rate has stayed relatively flat for the past five months, the Garden State’s has risen from 9 percent in March when its previous decline stopped.”
Read more at http://www.thefiscaltimes.com/Articles/2012/08/28/Why-Christie-Wont-Mention-NJs-Unemployment-Rate.aspx#UowIOKV15y4JVpBf.99
Rafe Hollister, suffering through Oblamer's ineptocracy
August 29th, 2012
1:09 pm
If Democrats in the NJ house had acted like the obstructionist Republicans in DC, Christie would have had NOTHING to brag on.
If our Mistake had leadership skills on the level of Gov Christie, he might not have all the problems he has working with the other side.
Class of '98
August 29th, 2012
1:09 pm
@@, good post. As others have pointed out, the Democrats want cradle-to-grave entitlements, but the hardest part is making it to the cradle.
Hillbilly D
August 29th, 2012
1:10 pm
Off topic:
Evidently the AJC has a new home page (at least the one I saw today is different). For whatever my opinion might count, I don’t like it. Requires more steps to navigate to where I want to get to than the old one.
Rafe Hollister, suffering through Oblamer's ineptocracy
August 29th, 2012
1:14 pm
17 recently elected Republican Governors, faced with significant democrat representation in their state legislatures, are making progress in working with those on the other side and turning around those debt ridden states. It is called leadership, empathy, commitment, perseverance, and insistence that things are going t get done. It can happen, just not with our Mistake, he has none of those qualities.
Romney has demonstrated those characteristics by governing a state with few Republicans in positions of authority.
ODD OWL
August 29th, 2012
1:15 pm
Wingfield love freedom of speech for Republicans, but not so much for Democrats…. How do you tax cuts for the rich Republicans feel about the fact that the Romney/Ryan Republicans have dealt the race card from the bottom of the deck ???
Finn McCool (The System isn't Broken; It's Fixed)
August 29th, 2012
1:16 pm
wow, 2 year old hears his mothers voice for the first time.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2153135/Two-year-old-deaf-boy-gasps-delight-hears-mother-s-voice-time.html
Lil' Barry Bailout - Vote American
August 29th, 2012
1:19 pm
That’s just it, Finn–Christie led the way in crafting bipartisan solutions supported by both parties. Obozo can’t do that.
Obozo: “My way, the highway, or a fascist power grab on my part”.
Matz
August 29th, 2012
1:19 pm
My favorite Christ Christie quote (to a female reporter who had asked about jobs):
“You know, something may be going down tonight, but it ain’t going to be jobs, sweetheart.”
He’s a ’stand-up’ guy and wants everyone to know it. Gosh, don’t you hope he talks to YOUR daughter like that? Ahhh, the days when women knew their place. Vote GOP this November to take us back there!
Finn McCool (The System isn't Broken; It's Fixed)
August 29th, 2012
1:19 pm
Rafe, that is just proof that it’s the Republican side of the aisle that is broken and has forgotten that Democracy is based on the art of compromise.
The lost children are going to implode in November after Big O wins by a landslide.
@@
August 29th, 2012
1:20 pm
How do you tax cuts for the rich Republicans feel about the fact that the Romney/Ryan Republicans have dealt the race card from the bottom of the deck ???
Chris Matthews went with ^^^ that one.
Newt Gingrich responded with “How racist must you be to assume that we’re talking about African Americans?”
Good comeback.
schnirt
ODD OWL
August 29th, 2012
1:22 pm
I had several of these paycheck to paycheck big house middle class Republicans down here in the south tell me that if Romney/Ryan is elected, they will bring back all the Jobs that the Romney type Republicans outsourced overseas over the last 20 years… What a hoot !!! Non rich Republicans are the most naive, gullible, ignoramuses to ever come down the pike… A pike that my enslaved ancestors built by the way… Most Americans are ignorant of that fact too…
kayaker 71
August 29th, 2012
1:27 pm
The GOP hierarchy is afraid of it’s own shadow. Christie should have held up page whatever of the Bozocare health care plan that says that over 700B in Medicare funds will be cut. He should have pointed out that we have not had significant growth in 4 years and that our unemployment is over 8% and has been for about 43 months. He should have pointed out that the person who is posing as president of this country is an incompetent buffoon. But, oh no, we might lose independents if we go that route. Someone in this liberal joke we call a media might just criticize us and we can’t have that, now can we. The GOP needs to grow a pair and call out this clown in government housing for what he is, nothing more than a Chicago thug with an agenda.
Centrist
August 29th, 2012
1:27 pm
Yahoo! Washington Bureau Chief and former political director with ABC News David Chalian got caught on an ABC webcast saying that Mitt Romney would be “happy to have a party when black people drown.” This is the grossly biased liberal media at work. An absolutely disgusting example of the politicized, non professional cancerous hacks spread throughout the mainstream media.
ragnar danneskjold
August 29th, 2012
1:28 pm
As is my practice, I elected to listen to the Braves rather than to politicians, but I had heard only positive reviews of Gov. Christie’s speech before our host’s essay. Sounds like all is going well at the convention.
Interested Observer
August 29th, 2012
1:28 pm
RE: “17 recently elected Republican Governors, faced with significant democrat representation in their state legislatures, are making progress…”
Congressional Republicans have refused to work with Obama on legislation that Republicans previously supported and/or campaigned on such as health care mandates, stimulus during economic recession, infrastructure spending, cap-and-trade, and even a grand bargain that would have cut deficits by $4 trillion dollars. They even voted against a deficit commission bill that they introduced and co-sponsored because President Obama embraced the idea. Even now, Republicans are running around the country complaining about the sequestration budget cuts that they themselves proposed and voted for.
Yet, some would have us believe that Republicans abandoned their own positions because of Obama’s poor leadership skills.?
No, Congressional Republicans are opposing President Obama at every turn, not because of policy differences and/or lack of leadership from the White House. They’re doing it because of politics. Their view is that any success for Obama hurts their chances of winning back the White House. So, they’ve done everything possible to thwart him. In response, members of their base make the false claim that Obama doesn’t have leadership skills rather than recognizing the fact that they are being conned.
I demand to see Cheesy Grits Birth Certificate- Long Form Please
August 29th, 2012
1:30 pm
As others have pointed out, the Democrats want cradle-to-grave entitlements,
And Republicans want a society where the rich get richer.
And if you are poor. Too damn bad. You probably choose to be poor anyway.
JF McNamara
August 29th, 2012
1:32 pm
“Whose policies led us to the greatest recession since the great depression?”
We did it.
“Whose policies ran up a massive deficit over 8 years under the previous President?”
We did it.
“Whose policies led to wage stagnation, outsourcing and higher wealth concentration”
We did it.
“Who has sought to limit the rights of minorities, gays, and women?”
We did it.
“Who cut federal taxes but, unlike states who have mostly variable expenses, have hard obligations in defense, social security and medicare and led to soaring debt”
We did it.
I demand to see Cheesy Grits Birth Certificate- Long Form Please
August 29th, 2012
1:34 pm
Yahoo! Washington Bureau Chief and former political director with ABC News David Chalian got caught on an ABC webcast saying that Mitt Romney would be “happy to have a party when black people drown.”
Hard to argue with him when things like this are going on at the convention.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-19414600
Class of '98
August 29th, 2012
1:40 pm
When the rich get richer, everyone wins. The United States economy isn’t identical to a game of “Monopoly”. I know it’s a difficult concept, but you can grasp it if you really, really try.
Class of '98
August 29th, 2012
1:41 pm
““Whose policies led us to the greatest recession since the great depression?”
We did it.”
You mean like the primary contributing factor to the recession, which was the government-backing of shoddy mortgages by Freddie Mac and Fannie Mae? You can thank Democrats for that.
Finn McCool (The System isn't Broken; It's Fixed)
August 29th, 2012
1:42 pm
year old hears his mothers voice for the first time.
D@mn science, d@mn you to he$$! This baby would still be in silence if we had taught these scientists only creationism!
I demand to see Cheesy Grits Birth Certificate- Long Form Please
August 29th, 2012
1:43 pm
You mean like the primary contributing factor to the recession, which was the government-backing of shoddy mortgages by Freddie Mac and Fannie Mae? You can thank Democrats for that.
Id say huge tax cuts for the rich while fighting two wars didn’t help either.
Just a hunch.
Matz
August 29th, 2012
1:44 pm
“When the rich get richer, everyone wins.”
Except for when they don’t. You know, like the people who LOSE their jobs, homes, medical coverage and retirement savings when their jobs are outsourced by their bosses who get richer by doing so. Then, you know, whole different story. Thanks for trying, though! Your own grasp of difficult concepts is really evolving. Don’t give up!
I demand to see Cheesy Grits Birth Certificate- Long Form Please
August 29th, 2012
1:44 pm
When the rich get richer, everyone wins.
Tell that to the poor.
Let them eat cake I guess.
Common Sense
August 29th, 2012
1:44 pm
“And Republicans want a society where the rich get richer.”
Then they must be failing. Only three of the richest 100 Americans ever were born in the 20th century, and only one after 1950.
They better get busy soon, or we may never see another American break into the top 100.
Finn McCool (The System isn't Broken; It's Fixed)
August 29th, 2012
1:45 pm
You mean like the primary contributing factor to the recession, which was the government-backing of shoddy mortgages by Freddie Mac and Fannie Mae?
Ahh, Republicans and their everlasting lies…..or do we call it denial?
Class of '98
August 29th, 2012
1:45 pm
Finn, ever heard of Gregor Mendel? Science and faith are not mutually exclusive.
Centrist
August 29th, 2012
1:45 pm
The nut throwers probably could care less the color of the camerawoman – the fact she was representing CNN was probably why she was termed an “animal”. Left wing political animals and their trainers make up a majority of the media.
Tealiban Party
August 29th, 2012
1:48 pm
Chris Christie: “You see Mr. President, real leaders don’t follow polls. Real leaders change polls.”
Looks like Gov. Christie has joined the Romney camp in finally being able to talk about Obama’s ACA Healthcare law.
Class of '98
August 29th, 2012
1:49 pm
Finn, are you denying that DEMOCRATS were the ones who demanded that poor, under-qualified people with poor credit and little collateral be granted government-backed loans?
Does that sound like a REPUBLICAN position to you?
Specifically, we can thank Barney Frank and Chris Dodd.
Please educate yourself before debating me. This is too easy.
I demand to see Cheesy Grits Birth Certificate- Long Form Please
August 29th, 2012
1:52 pm
The nut throwers probably could care less the color of the camerawoman – the fact she was representing CNN was probably why she was termed an “animal”. Left wing political animals and their trainers make up a majority of the media.
And Ive got a bridge in Brooklyn you’ll just love.
Funny with all that media around. They only threw nuts at the black one.
Kind of odd wouldn’t you say.
Jack
August 29th, 2012
1:52 pm
Christie scares liberals. They just don’t like to see or hear anyone speak that has common sense. And Rep Davis probably scared them more than Christie.
I demand to see Cheesy Grits Birth Certificate- Long Form Please
August 29th, 2012
1:56 pm
The Fannie Mae lie has been debunked over and over
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/12/24/opinion/nocera-the-big-lie.html
Its one of those lies Republicans keep repeating and eventually it sticks.
Id quit digging class of 98
Your starting to look kind of dumb.
I demand to see Cheesy Grits Birth Certificate- Long Form Please
August 29th, 2012
1:58 pm
Fannie and Freddie were bad actors in a lot of ways, and that makes them an easy target for conservatives who are desperate to absolve the private sector of any blame for the financial crisis. But when it comes to assigning blame for the housing bubble, the evidence against them is laughably thin. Like it or not, this was Wall Street’s fault.
http://www.motherjones.com/kevin-drum/2011/12/housing-bubble-and-big-lie
Buzzy
August 29th, 2012
1:58 pm
Chris Christie has the inside scoop. He knows Romney is going to lose, therefore Christie used his speech to run for election in 2016.
Christie showed last night that he had thrown in the towel as far as Romney goes. Did you see the look on Romney’s face? Not a happy man.
I demand to see Cheesy Grits Birth Certificate- Long Form Please
August 29th, 2012
2:00 pm
http://politicalcorrection.org/factcheck/201110140001
Here is another one.
zeke
August 29th, 2012
2:01 pm
wondering if our host has any comments on:
http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/greed-and-debt-the-true-story-of-mitt-romney-and-bain-capital-20120829
Buzzy
August 29th, 2012
2:04 pm
It’s obvious that Christie shafted Romney.
What I want to know is when George W. Bush is going to speak.
Ray
August 29th, 2012
2:06 pm
I was impressed. He’s an independent thinker, and a breath of fresh air, when so many politicians just go with daily party issued talking points. To make badly needed progress in this country we need elected officials to govern. Making partisan gamesmanship the highest priority, like McConnell so frankly stated, caused too many lost years.
Someone like Cristie, who really wants to govern, could make America greater.
kayaker 71
August 29th, 2012
2:07 pm
It is pathetic that criticism of people of means is so vilifying. Wonder how all of those limousine liberals like Kerry, Gore, Ted and Jack Kennedy and John Edwards feel about the plight of the unfortunate? Answer…. every time there is an election. They trot out the same old tired rhetoric about Republicans caring about nothing but their wealth. Republicans only care about how much money they make and certainly don’t care about women, minorities, the unfortunate, our water supply, someone’s job, social security, medicare…… nothing. Only about making money and screwing anyone they can just to make more. That crap might win over someone who is stupid enough to believe it, and unfortunately, thanks to that joke we call the media, there are those who will believe anything as long as they hear it from some liberal talking head who is “supposed to know”. I just hope that the majority of the electorate is intelligent enough to grasp the truth. The rest of them, including the vast majority of the black community, is hopeless.
zeke
August 29th, 2012
2:07 pm
and try this on for size:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/ezra-klein/wp/2012/08/28/republican-national-convention-the-one-graph-you-need-to-see-before-watching/
Jefferson
August 29th, 2012
2:07 pm
Knows a good menu when he sees one.
Finn McCool (The System isn't Broken; It's Fixed)
August 29th, 2012
2:09 pm
Romney party boat flying the Cayman Islands flag?
You betcha
http://www.salon.com/2012/08/29/mitts_cayman_party_boat/
Finn McCool (The System isn't Broken; It's Fixed)
August 29th, 2012
2:10 pm
http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/romney-party-yacht-flies-cayman-islands-flag/story?id=17105028#.UD5HBGjybOD
Finn McCool (The System isn't Broken; It's Fixed)
August 29th, 2012
2:11 pm
There’s only one reason why millionaires register their mega-yachts in the Cayman Islands — and it’s the very same reason why Mitt Romney has offshore accounts registered there. Taxes — or, more accurately, the lack thereof. It makes a perfect kind of sense. Millionaires want to help Romney get elected because not only will that prevent Obama from raising their taxes, but it could well result in their current tax burden falling even further. So there’s a beautiful honesty in gathering together on a yacht that pays no U.S. taxes — see, America, this is what we’re all about.
salon.com
OUCH!!!!!!!
Trolls Bane
August 29th, 2012
2:15 pm
Class of ‘98 – synonym for uneducated, conned rethug tool …
The causes of the ongoing recession are way to complex for you to understand. Please go back to your sandbox.
Old Farmer
August 29th, 2012
2:30 pm
Christie did not respect Romney.
Does anyone know when George W. Bush is going to speak?
Finn McCool (The System isn't Broken; It's Fixed)
August 29th, 2012
2:33 pm
Good link, zeke. Very informative.
southpaw
August 29th, 2012
2:36 pm
Zeke @2:09
Interesting graph. The debt really starts exploding in and after 2009.
southpaw
August 29th, 2012
2:37 pm
Should be Zeke @2:07, not 2:09
Finn McCool (The System isn't Broken; It's Fixed)
August 29th, 2012
2:38 pm
wow, and this from a conservative?
[M]illions of Americans who do not pay federal income taxes do pay federal payroll taxes. These taxes are regressive, and the dirty little secret is that over the last several decades they have made up a greater and greater share of federal revenues. In 1950, payroll and other federal retirement contributions constituted 10.9 percent of all federal revenues. By 2007, the last “normal” economic year before federal revenues began falling, they made up 33.9 percent. By contrast, corporate income taxes were 26.4 percent of federal revenues in 1950. By 2007 they had fallen to 14.4 percent. So who has skin in the game?
http://www.theamericanconservative.com/articles/revolt-of-the-rich/
Old Farmer
August 29th, 2012
2:39 pm
Yes, the debt is bad. It was a mistake putting in those tax cuts back in 2001 and 2003. The Bush tax cuts. God knows they didn’t do anything for the economy. The economy went bust.
By the way, speaking of George W. Bush, he did a lot to the country. Does anyone know when he will speak at the convention? I can’t find his name on the schedule.
southpaw
August 29th, 2012
2:39 pm
Trolls Bane @2:15
You have a very strange thesauras
JamVet
August 29th, 2012
2:49 pm
Christie scares liberals.
Most 700 pound human beings do!
JamVet
August 29th, 2012
2:50 pm
The causes of the ongoing recession are way to complex for you (98) to understand.
southpaw, but he got that part spot on!
Jose
August 29th, 2012
2:56 pm
you bed wetting liberals are ignorant
you have millionaires in your party and they are just as bad
read this is you can read
http://bostonherald.com/track/inside_track/view/20100723senator_skipper_skips_town_on_sails_tax
Finn McCool (The System isn't Broken; It's Fixed)
August 29th, 2012
2:58 pm
Hey, no more guessing at what is the 700lb elephant in the room….
Sorry folks but overweight people are the new smokers – you can make fun of people who do something they can stop by themselves.
southpaw
August 29th, 2012
2:58 pm
JamVet @2:50
Don’t be too sure. If Trolls Bane’s synonym for 98 is inaccurate, which you appear to concede, then the descriptions of “uneducated” and “conned” are questionable at best. I won’t address “rethug,” since Dictionary.com’s closest match to it was Theodore Roethke, author of Words for the Wind and The Far Field.
independent thinker
August 29th, 2012
2:59 pm
Must be something in the drinks Kyle had at that GOP love fest but in sixty years of watching conventions that was the absolutely worst keynote speech I have heard. Scott Walker and Nikki Haley had my attention riveted and would have been excellent in that slot. Christie shoule be on Jersey Shore and give up politics. I have no idea what he was saying about Romney and all those GOP governors made Romney look really bad touting their accomplishments and no one dared mention Mitt’s accomplishment of that unmentionable state with that umentionable healthhcare program as his main non-accomplishment.
Anne Romeny talked about compassion and love which have no place at this convention. Mr. gangster from Jersey says in typical mobster fashion moments later- to heck with that love respect-we only want respect. I hope those two campaign together. quite a pair.
Did some Democrat sneak into his speech the part about compromise, bipartisan support and truthtelling?? And this is after Santorum embellishes the big lie and race baiting tactic of saying Obama illegally cut work out of welfare?
I demand to see Cheesy Grits Birth Certificate- Long Form Please
August 29th, 2012
3:00 pm
read this is you can read
LOL
Darwin
August 29th, 2012
3:07 pm
If you’re talking about all the success of these sitting Republican governors, then may I suggest that the Republicans have nominated the wrong governor. Or ex-governor as it may appear.
Gimme Gimme Gimme
August 29th, 2012
3:07 pm
The problem is that it was so hyped it came up as a let down and a little self-indulgent.
Plus he needs to lose weight…..there I said it.
Jose
August 29th, 2012
3:12 pm
http://2016themovie.com/
the real obama
Finn McCool (The System isn't Broken; It's Fixed)
August 29th, 2012
3:16 pm
Chris Christie — 2016!!!!
td
August 29th, 2012
3:19 pm
Old Farmer
August 29th, 2012
2:39 pm
“Yes, the debt is bad. It was a mistake putting in those tax cuts back in 2001 and 2003. The Bush tax cuts. God knows they didn’t do anything for the economy. The economy went bust.”
Let us say we did not do the Bush tax cuts. How much less would our national debt be today?
Just Saying..
August 29th, 2012
3:21 pm
Thank goodness the GOP keynote speaker wasn’t a morbidly obese white guy telling a diverse electorate to live with discipline and just say no…
Just Saying..
August 29th, 2012
3:22 pm
td-
Google everywhere. The primary contributor to the current US debt is the Bush tax cuts.
Jose
August 29th, 2012
3:26 pm
Just Saying..
August 29th, 2012
3:22 pm
td-
Google everywhere. The primary contributor to the current US debt is the Bush tax cuts.
THEATER OF THE ABSURD
the primary contributor to the current US debt is a FEDERAL GOVT controlled by Democrats and Republicans who spend more than they take in
Li'l Aynie
August 29th, 2012
3:27 pm
Christie and the other governors Kyle cited did not “get their states back on track”. They killed hundreds of thousands of jobs, and turned down multiple opportunities for enormous infra-structure inprovements. New Jersey’s unemployment rate is the 4th highest in the nation, higher even than Michigan’s.
The action of the states in cutting jobs is the primary cause of the slow economic recovery. The federal government spent trillions in borrowed money to keep the economy from falling into depression. The states could have done their part in job recovery by raising their fuel taxes by a penny or two, and raising the income tax of high-earners by a few percent.
Lulu
August 29th, 2012
3:31 pm
How to help America
1. Cut spending-when your checkbook is in the red….STOP WRITING CHECKS-home finance 101
2. Increase revenues-NOT by increasing taxes, but by creating an environment in which business NEED to hire workers…..the more people working translates to more tax revenue generated, which translates to fewer people needing government assistance-It’s a win/win-In effect you are cutting spending and increasing tax revenue in one fail swoop!
How do you create this environment? Make it profitable for companies to stay in the US, and not outsource jobs, etc…does this mean….GASP!!!….tax cuts for the wealthy? YES!!!! Ask most people if they want their boss to be successful and rich, or poor and struggling? The intelligent people want their bosses (i.e. the company they work for) to be successful and rich.
You see, when people become successful in business, they tend to continue to grow their businesses and henceforth, they provide wealth making opportunities for their employees. And if not wealth making, at least the ability to provide a decent living for themselves and their families. When you stifle business, the exact opposite occurs. They will inevitably cocoon what wealth they have and live with the status quo….which leads to stagnation and recession. It’s all pretty simple. I learned this in my freshman year of college in micro and macro economics….
Jose
August 29th, 2012
3:37 pm
yesterday i DROVE MY CAR to downtown atlanta………… walked the street next to georgia state university and asked the homeless guy if he would give me a raise……….
guess what he said to me……
$@$!$!@…………….. go ask your the wealthy owner of the company where you work for a raise and give me $10!
maybe we should make all registered democrats go work for companies where the owners are homeless people and give the currently unemployed people THEIR jobs
jconservative
August 29th, 2012
3:38 pm
“With bipartisan leadership we saved taxpayers $132 billion over 30 years and saved retirees their pension.”
A tip of the hat to the other party. Unusual in today’s ideology driven Washington. It used to be an everyday thing in Washington. We will see if it returns.
Jefferson
August 29th, 2012
3:40 pm
Lulu the gov’t is not like a household at all, nor can you run it like a business. Sorry.
Finn McCool (The System isn't Broken; It's Fixed)
August 29th, 2012
3:45 pm
Increase revenues-NOT by increasing taxes, but by creating an environment in which business NEED to hire workers
The environment in which business NEED to hire workers is an environment where there is DEMAND for their products. You expect the federal government to create demand for a companies product? The government should make us WANT a companies products? You want the federal government to force middle class consumers to begin spending money again?
Finn McCool (The System isn't Broken; It's Fixed)
August 29th, 2012
3:46 pm
jconservative is quoting the BS spouted by that guy?
Ryan
August 29th, 2012
3:46 pm
Christie: A more glib and direct delivery of the same regressive BS espoused by Romney. This whole RNC is so sad and offensive in tone and content that I want to puke, and they don’t even see it. They all want to perpetuate a regressive tax code which incentivizes the Wall Street wealthy who destroy our country, while talking bad about teachers and public education. They actually publicly tout that their prayers changed the course of Hurricane Isaac, as if God would care enough about their hate rally to move the trajectory of a hurricane from not particularly flood prone Tampa and instead send it straight back into a still recovering gulf coast. Millionaires talking about “shared sacrifice” in a country of people who’s tax dollars bailed out Wall Street while they lost their houses and jobs? These people are DEMONS.
Oh, and yeah. Ann’s high school presentation on why she likes Mitt Romney was VERY entertaining.
JamVet
August 29th, 2012
3:47 pm
Increase revenues-NOT by increasing taxes, but by creating an environment in which business NEED to hire workers…
Lulu, you do understand that we have heard that exact same claptrap for thirty years and look where it got us.
The environment you speak of does not exist in this perverted from of trickle-down capitalism.
Corporations are handsomely rewarded – via enormous tax credits – to ship decent American jobs overseas. 40,000,000 American jobs have been lost or sent overseas since the 1970s!
Maybe one day you fiscally irresponsible Republicans will understand the basics.
The American middle class has been devastated for forty straight years. As in FLATLINED wages. As in almost 80% of American workers make virtually no more money – in adjusted inflation dollars – than they did in the 1970s.
Though their productivity has doubled.
So, they cannot afford to buy anything.
When they cannot afford to buy anything, the makers of those anythings cannot sell them.
Which means that they do not hire any more workers, which means that more and more and more middle class workers don’t have decent jobs anymore.
But I’m sure you know that the millionaires and billionaires in this country are working really long and hard to fix that, huh?
Just Saying..
August 29th, 2012
3:47 pm
You see, when people become successful in business, they tend to continue to grow their businesses and henceforth, they provide wealth making opportunities for their employees.
“Please, Mr. Science, tell us more…”
Jose
August 29th, 2012
3:48 pm
Jefferson
August 29th, 2012
3:40 pm
Lulu the gov’t is not like a household at all, nor can you run it like a business. Sorry.
yet state governments have to balance their budgets like housholds and businesses by LAW…………. HMMMMMMMMMMMM
and investors of MUNICIPAL BONDS will invest in a local govt that has continuously outspent its tax revenues? NOT!!!
Maybe California should save money by not spending TAX REVENUE on the HIGH SPEED RAIL but issue BONDS to pay for it all since INVESTORS will NOT treat CALIFORNIA GOVT like a HOUSEHOLD OR BUSINESS!
Lulu
August 29th, 2012
3:50 pm
The government needs businesses to operate. Therefore you need to support business growth, from the “mom and pop” store all the way up to the mega corporations. Without it, the country is doomed to fail and become completely, 100% socialist, in which all people look to the government to provide all things. And I disagree with you that running a government is not like running household or business. Especially regarding the deficit. As a household or business, if you continue to spend more than you bring in, bankruptcy will be in your future. The government is basically already there. Unless things change, and change quickly….
They Did It Alright..CONS Used A Teleprompter. They Said Only Obama Uses A Teleprompter? CONS Are Hypocrites Once Again.
August 29th, 2012
3:51 pm
Fat Boy Chris Christe STOLE MYTH ROBME’S THUNDER.
Why Christie Won’t Mention N.J.’s Unemployment Rate?…….
BECAUSE IT IS 9.8%. Higher than the national rate of 8.3%.
Unemployment in New Jersey has climbed over the past two months
to its highest point in 35 years. OMG!
As Christie put it, “if we can do this in a blue state with a conservative
Republican governor, Washington is out of excuses.”
DO WHAT???????????
WHAT HAS HE DONE THAT WAS SO GREAT?
Just Saying..
August 29th, 2012
3:52 pm
Lulu; “How to help America
1. Cut spending-when your checkbook is in the red….STOP WRITING CHECKS-home finance 101″
Lulu, if you could hook that up with quantitive easing…
Matz
August 29th, 2012
3:52 pm
What Ryan said at 3:46.
Yes, I also find the “we prayed the storm away from our party function to flood people out of their homes” thing utterly offensive.
Jose
August 29th, 2012
3:55 pm
FINN
there is a way to increase consumer demand but NEITHER party had the courage to take the steps
CONSUMER DEMAND will only return once the HOUSING BUBBLE has been cleaned up
THAT MEANS PAIN
houses need to be foreclosed
people need to file bankruptcy
banks need to take losses and write them off their books
they are on a pace to drag this out for 5-7 more years
then when it clears out confidence returns and people feel better about buying then companies start hiring
its not rocket science
but we have a LACK OF LEADERSHIP from BOTH PARTIES
I Report (-: You Whine )-: mmm, mmmm, mmmmm! Just sayin...
August 29th, 2012
3:55 pm
It cracks me up that the only response that the libs have for Christie’s sensible speech is to call him fat, when he weighs less than moochelle obozo does, just laughing…
td
August 29th, 2012
3:56 pm
JamVet
August 29th, 2012
3:47 pm
“The American middle class has been devastated for forty straight years. As in FLATLINED wages. As in almost 80% of American workers make virtually no more money – in adjusted inflation dollars – than they did in the 1970s.”
WRONG again. The middle class has been devastated by the destruction of the family.
Two people making $30,000 per year can have a good life together and raise a family. One person making $30,000 per year is a never ending struggle that can not be overcome.
They Did It Alright..CONS Used A Teleprompter. They Said Only Obama Uses A Teleprompter? CONS Are Hypocrites Once Again.
August 29th, 2012
3:56 pm
OMG!!!
Unemployment in New Jersey has climbed to 9.8% over the past two months
to its highest point in 35 years. OMG!
IS THIS SOMETHING TO BE PROUD OF?
Heck Obama AINT DOING SO BAD AFTERALL.
Lulu
August 29th, 2012
3:57 pm
Jam Vet
Where exactly have you been the last 30 years???? We had unprecedented growth and prosperity under Regan and Clinton, who both followed the “trickle down” philosophy. However, when socialist leaning administrations have had the power, social programs increased, the number of people on these programs increased and the drain on the economy was evident. Think FDR and the current adminstration. Yes, it is a complicated issue, but the basic tenants have been fundamentally the same since the beginning of time. People succeed when they get rewarded for doing so. They stop trying when it gets them nowhere.
Ryan
August 29th, 2012
3:59 pm
Just Sayin said: “1. Cut spending-when your checkbook is in the red….STOP WRITING CHECKS-home finance 101″”
Please stop with your disingenuous and irrelevant talking points…I mean, unless you actually think that home finance is synonymous with the economy in the way you’re representing, in which case…well…I actually wouldn’t know what to say to you.
HDB
August 29th, 2012
3:59 pm
@@
August 29th, 2012
1:20 pm
How do you tax cuts for the rich Republicans feel about the fact that the Romney/Ryan Republicans have dealt the race card from the bottom of the deck ???
Chris Matthews went with ^^^ that one.
Newt Gingrich responded with “How racist must you be to assume that we’re talking about African Americans?”
Good point….could’ve been talking about Hispanics also…….but we DO know that the GOP has HISTORICALLY played the race card! Kevin Phillips, in 1968…the architect of Nixon’s “Southern Strategy” came out and said “black people have no place in the GOP!”….and that has been part of the Republican mantra since…….
Just Saying..
August 29th, 2012
3:59 pm
Whinner-
Most “Do what I say, not what I do” speakers do move the BS meter.
They Did It Alright..CONS Used A Teleprompter. They Said Only Obama Uses A Teleprompter. CONS Are Hypocrites Once Again.
August 29th, 2012
4:00 pm
@I Report (-: You Whine )-: mmm, mmmm, mmmmm! Just sayin…
August 29th, 2012
3:55 pm
It cracks me up that the only response that the libs have for Christie’s sensible speech is to call him fat, when he weighs less than moochelle obozo does, just laughing…
********************************************************************************
IT CRACKS ME UP THAT THE ONLY RESPONSE THAT CONS HAVE
AGAINST THE TRUTH IS TO CREATE A BLATANT LIE.
HE IS FAT.
IF HE DOES NOT LOSE THAT WEIGHT HE MAY LOSE
HIS LIFE.
Finn McCool (The System isn't Broken; It's Fixed)
August 29th, 2012
4:00 pm
I Report, I guess you just overlook the discussion of the unemployment rate being higher than the national average?
Or that Christie was able to accomplish what he did because he had Democrats who were willing to compromise and work with him? (Amazing what you can do with a lil ole thing like compromise, huh?)
Junior Samples
August 29th, 2012
4:01 pm
Chris Wallace was not impressed.
Finn McCool (The System isn't Broken; It's Fixed)
August 29th, 2012
4:01 pm
Christie 2016!!!!
That’s 3 heart attacks from now?
Unemployment in New Jersey has climbed to 9.8% over the past two months,
August 29th, 2012
4:02 pm
OMG!
Jose
August 29th, 2012
4:02 pm
LULU AND JAMVET
trickle down DOESN’T WORK
trickle down from the rich
trickle down from the government
BOTH PARTIES HAVE WEAKEND THE MIDDLE CLASS
its time for a NEW PARTY and a NEW VISION
Unemployment in New Jersey has climbed to 9.8% over the past two months,
August 29th, 2012
4:03 pm
Enter your comments here
Just Saying..
August 29th, 2012
4:03 pm
Ryan @ 3:59:
Try a second look at the above posts, and notice that I was actually quoting Lulu’s Econ seminar, and making the same point to her that you’re making.
JamVet
August 29th, 2012
4:04 pm
td, talk about missing the point!
Those Americans making $30K per year SHOULD be making $60K.
And that is only a 100% gain over forty years!
An extremely modest 2.5% average gain per year.
Granted not every one can see the 280% gain that American CEOs made in one ten year span.
And to Lulu’s unwitting point, proof positive that trickle down has been a complete clusterf__ of a failure.
Until you cons started coming to grips with these facts, you will only beg for more of the same kind of Reaganesque/Clintonesque/Bushesque pain…
Michael H. Smith
August 29th, 2012
4:07 pm
Look at all these whining socialist liberal democrats trying to cover your blog Kyle, you must be doing something right?
Keep up the good work!
Just Saying..
August 29th, 2012
4:08 pm
And Whinner-
I didn’t say Christie was fat. I said he is morbidly obese.
Think of it as a Hard Truth…
DawgDad
August 29th, 2012
4:09 pm
Enter your comments here
@@
August 29th, 2012
4:10 pm
HDB:
I don’t carry my own emotional baggage around, MUCH LESS, somebody elses. Saving “brown stamps” is sure to clog up your tube.
Going back:
http://blogs.ajc.com/jay-bookman-blog/2009/09/16/racist-a-term-that-must-be-applied-cautiously/?cp=all#comment-118628
The dem’s racist charge has lost its brigade.
Ryan
August 29th, 2012
4:10 pm
Just Saying: Sorry, I see that now. I’m not used to thread formats where people can’t just reply to each other.
JamVet
August 29th, 2012
4:12 pm
BOTH PARTIES HAVE WEAKEND THE MIDDLE CLASS
its time for a NEW PARTY and a NEW VISION
Absolutely agreed, Jose.
But you are preaching to the choir. I advocate the dismantling of both of them. And have for 15 years.
Cons and dems only talk about change. But their idea of “change” is making silly little meaningless tweaks around the edges of these massive problems.
And though I thought it was horribly crafted and misguided, at least BHO will go down in history as the only prez in fifty years to at least try making a massive change on behalf of working Americans with his PPACA. (Legislation that Republicans originally created, supported and sought.)
I support massive change to fix our dysfunctional government held hostage by the dual incompetent criminal organizations – the Tweedledee and Tweedledum parties. AKA the GOP and Democrats.
As you feel the same way, I presume that you too voted for Ralph Nader in the past three presidential elections and will vote for Rocky Anderson in November?
DawgDad
August 29th, 2012
4:13 pm
I tried to tune in to the GOP convention early last night, but the coverage on the mainstream media channels was just over the top unviewable. Constant split screen/cutouts to the storm, interviews cut in with fringe people seemingly designed only to distract from the message, and commentary that was so biased and off-the charts leftist it was unviewable.
Just saying. In my opinion, the MSM is embarrassing themselves. Anybody with half a brain understands what they are up to, and it’s brutally dishonest and mean-spirited.
HATES MEAN PEOPLE
August 29th, 2012
4:14 pm
grover norquest, everyone should google or bing this person. this is what the g o p is really about. i would really love to hear mr. romney discuss the nut throwing event last night.
Finn McCool (The System isn't Broken; It's Fixed)
August 29th, 2012
4:14 pm
Boy, I hope Brownie is in New Orleans keeping an eye on that hurricane. That dude can work a hurricane!
Henne
August 29th, 2012
4:15 pm
10 p.m. and after is too late for keynotes. Needs to be 9 p.m.
Unemployment in New Jersey has climbed to9.8 percent
August 29th, 2012
4:16 pm
My sister is right Chris Christe is fat. Everybody knows that.
Finn McCool (The System isn't Broken; It's Fixed)
August 29th, 2012
4:18 pm
CLEVELAND (AP) — An Amish preacher testified Wednesday that he watched three men cut his father’s hair and beard during an attack last fall that left his father shaking and relatives screaming.
What was Mitt Romney doing in amish country?
Just Saying..
August 29th, 2012
4:18 pm
Ryan: Thanks, no prob.
DawgDad
August 29th, 2012
4:22 pm
To all of you people commenting on Chris Christie’s weight, do you understand just how small-minded and mean-spirited you are? I mean, it leads me to ask just what your motives are? Put him in a concentration camp? Tax him by the pound? Disqualify him on the basis of his WEIGHT???
td
August 29th, 2012
4:26 pm
JamVet
August 29th, 2012
4:04 pm
td, talk about missing the point!
Those Americans making $30K per year SHOULD be making $60K.
And that is only a 100% gain over forty years!
An extremely modest 2.5% average gain per year.
Granted not every one can see the 280% gain that American CEOs made in one ten year span.
And wages for College grads with such majors as engineering, math and science have been keeping pace. It is the global economy that has caused wages of the unskilled to be stagnate. If the average unskilled worker made $60,000 today then how much would everything cost?
Just Saying..
August 29th, 2012
4:26 pm
Henne: “10 p.m. and after is too late for keynotes.”
I agree. I think they are throwing away viewers, and potential voters.
Rafe Hollister, suffering through Oblamer's ineptocracy
August 29th, 2012
4:29 pm
Please stop with your disingenuous and irrelevant talking points…I mean, unless you actually think that home finance is synonymous with the economy in the way you’re representing, in which case…well…I actually wouldn’t know what to say to you.
Ryan is absolutely correct, home finance and government finance have nothing to do with one another. At home, you have a limited amount of money to spend, to finance your home, food, cars, entertainment, etc. You are responsible for protecting those you love. You have to balance your budget or lose everything and your family suffer.
Government could more appropriately be compared to a drunken sailor, who has discovered he has found Bill Gates’ debit card and an ATM. He has an unlimited amount to spend, no guidelines on how to spend, no accountability on how it is spent, and no conscience about blowing the money.
JamVet
August 29th, 2012
4:29 pm
Anyone who is HUNDREDS of pounds overweight has serious issues.
And notwithstanding the very real chance of imminent heart attacks, diabetes and other terminal maladies, not just physical ones. Likely they have emotional and psychological issues as well.
We all have heard of the jolly fat man and he seems to play that role well. But deep inside, I suspect he is anything but happy.
The man NEEDS immediate help and I truly hope that he gets it. Part of that help would be for him to address the question of how did he allow himself to become so morbidly obese?
Getting that way HAD to take a lot of work!
And it calls into question if he can put in the gargantuan amount of work to get healthy and whether he is fit to lead…
Jose
August 29th, 2012
4:30 pm
td
GREAT POINT!
THE FAILURE OF BOTH PARTIES TO EDUCATE AND PREPARE US FOR GLOBALIZATION
PROOF OF OUR LACK OF LEADERSHIP
DebbieDoRight - Dixie Chicks, Eleanor Roosevelt, Hillary Clinton, and Rosetta Scott King -- Unafraid To Say It; Unafraid To Do The Right Thing...
August 29th, 2012
4:31 pm
Of course. Just as the Republican-led House has done, passing bills to reduce the deficit, create jobs, and reform entitlements.
OMG too funny!! I laughed so hard when I read that!! Republican house creating jobs!! HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!! Yeah they’re creating jobs for the gun lobbyists!
Too funny!
Secular Humanism Is Ruining America
August 29th, 2012
4:32 pm
JamVet…what plan do you support for fixing the problem you so eloquently stated?
Jose
August 29th, 2012
4:33 pm
OBAMA SMOKES CIGARETTE
SMOKED MARYJANE
AND SNORTED COCAINE
he is UNFIT to be President
His lack of control and emotional and mental issues are a THREAT to our security
@@
August 29th, 2012
4:38 pm
For those of you, who didn’t take the time to check out my link @ 4:10, I’ll go straight to the most important part.
Can White Americans Criticize President Obama and Not be labeled A Racist?
In order to move forward, and perhaps closer to the post-racial era that Americans have been striving for – supporters of Barack Obama, particularly African American supporters, must learn that every time someone – particularly White Americans harshly criticises him, it’s not racist and doesn’t necessarily reflect racism. If the African American community insist on using the “race card” as a political defense against criticism of President Obama, White Americans will ultimately throw in the towel and say “enough is enough” and re-unite around issues of race thereby setting the stage to wipe out potential Democratic gains in 2010 and setting the stage for a defeat of President Obama in 2012.
Democratic gains in 2010? That already happened.
I’m addressing the liberals here…don’t know if you’re black or white…don’t care. Keep up the charges of racism and the damage might JUST become irrepairable.
Is that what you want?
JamVet
August 29th, 2012
4:40 pm
And wages for College grads with such majors as engineering, math and science have been keeping pace.
Patently, 100%, made up out of thin air fallacious nonsense.
You still don’t have a basic grasp of the topic.
Otherwise college graduates – even in those fields – would be making at least $150,000 per year.
Right out of the shoot! With no work experience at all.
And that is NOT happening. Even the people in those fields with certain highly desirable expertise and experience are making maybe $75K to $125K.
Unless of course, you have credible links to verifiable evidence noting otherwise.
(It takes around $200K in 2012 dollars to equal $35k in 1970 dollars)
Rafe Hollister, suffering through Oblamer's ineptocracy
August 29th, 2012
4:41 pm
Dawgdad
I know of what you speak, I occasionally try to see what the other side is saying and I tuned in to see Wolf Blitzer and two attack hounds interview Rubio. They would hurl an accusation at him and before he got 30 seconds to reply, hurl another. You could see he was getting very agitated, but I guess he thought it would be poor form to just walk off. I think, my opinion, that conservatives would be better off to just decline any interview from the left leaning press, unless it is live and one on one, none of this two or three attack the interview subject.
It is over the top, always been bad, but this year, I think they are desperate to prop up the Mistake.
JamVet
August 29th, 2012
4:46 pm
Ruined, there are dozens and dozens of things that could be done to change the course of this floundering ship.
I have written extensively about many of them. Which come heavily from these two sites:
http://www.votenader.org/
Review some items there, ask some pertinent questions about the ideas that intrigue you and we can discus…
JamVet
August 29th, 2012
4:46 pm
The silly con bluebot only allows one link per post…
http://www.voterocky.org/
Humpty
August 29th, 2012
4:47 pm
Rafe
The conspiracy man. Any channel or publication that doesn’t meet his political ideology and weak minded narrative is part of the “liberal media”.
hahahahahahaa
Secular Humanism Is Ruining America
August 29th, 2012
4:48 pm
I will look it over, thanks.
curious
August 29th, 2012
4:52 pm
Why did Reagan kick off his 1980 campaign in Philadelphia, Mississippi?
Forget about a new party; the lobbyists won’t let it happen.
td
August 29th, 2012
4:54 pm
JamVet
August 29th, 2012
4:40 pm
I have no idea as to where you are getting your figures from and if you could post a link then I would go and read the material but here is a link to the Daily Kos that says certain degrees have had increases in wages after inflation over the past 10 years.
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2011/09/20/1018630/-Only-the-most-educated-3-saw-wage-gains-between-2000-and-2010
Lulu
August 29th, 2012
4:55 pm
Jam Vet-
Christie isn’t running for President…..and apparently the people of New Jersey wanted him in office….His weight is irrelevant. Ted Kennedy was a drunken murderer, but I guess he was fit to lead…???WTF I suppose you are the picture of health, because you are obviously a liberal. The government has been telling you how to live your life, and you have swallowed the kool-aid. I am assuming that you don’t smoke, that you eat all of the prescribed amounts of food from the USDA food pyramid, that you are considering becoming a vegetarian, that you exercise at least 30 minutes a day and get your heart rate up to 100% of resting each time you do. Because I know it is a FACT that all Liberals have BMI’s of less than 24 right?
Give me a break….people from both parties come in all shapes and sizes-it is ridiculous that this is even being discussed.
Let’s have a real discussion about what needs to be done to put our Country back on the right path. This country didn’t just appear…there were some pretty intellegent men who had a vision about how a free society should work. And for the most part it has worked pretty well. It’s when we as a people believe that the government knows what’s best for us, and we flee from what we know to work, is when things get “ify”. STOP looking to the government to make everything better-look to yourself for change.
DawgDad
August 29th, 2012
4:58 pm
“And notwithstanding the very real chance of imminent heart attacks, diabetes and other terminal maladies, not just physical ones. Likely they have emotional and psychological issues as well.”
JamVet: You know, you MIGHT be right. But look back at history and see what your line of thinking has caused. I’m referring to sterotyping on the basis of appearance, disability. And when you PRESUME someone has emotional and pyschological issues (dare I say, is “inferior” or “defective” or a “danger to society”), well, (1) look what damage that has caused in world and US history, and (2) think about what that says about YOU.
Your comments are a perfect example of why Government needs to be limited, out of necessity to preserve liberty and freedom.
Humpty
August 29th, 2012
5:02 pm
Lulu
The people wanted Obama in office but never stopped you from crying
Guess the irony of all that whistles right on past you
Lulu
August 29th, 2012
5:11 pm
Humpty
Your statement is patenly ridiculous. I did not vote for Obama, but not because of his appearance. I didn’t vote for him because I do not agree with his policies. That is what Jet Vet was implying in his post. That Christie isn’t fit to lead because of his weight. Another great thing about this country is that you get to vote, and that the majority wins, but you have another chance in 4 years to vote for a new leader….that’s the way it is….I accept it, and so should you.
JamVet
August 29th, 2012
5:12 pm
I suppose you are the picture of health, because you are obviously a liberal.
I trained to run in the Georgia Senior Olympics.
I am 57 and can still bench press my body weight and more.
I do not use tobacco and drink alcohol very rarely. I do read and understand extremely well the labels on food items as provided for by the USDA (one of the feral agencies that cons hate). I hav eeducated myself extensively on healthy foods and lifestyles.
And YOU, it seems, are somewhat ignorant on these matters as the food pyramid has been replaced with updated and improved information a couple of years ago.
Even after devastating, nearly fatal blood clots I am still extremely fit, more so than most flabby cons half my age.
I have a home workout that I do almost every day.
And what the hell does this mean?! …get your heart rate up to 100% of resting…
I have spent innumerable hours of my life in gyms and working out with tons of other people and I have never heard of that one. Are you making this stuff up? LOL.
In short, being in the best shape of my life, saved it. (along with the amazing doctors, nurses, staff and volunteers at the Atlanta Veterans Administration Hospital, Salute!!)
So yes, for me physical fitness (I grew up under Jofn F. Kennedy) is more than just a passing fad. I live it.
You?
I’m guessing not so much…
Lil' Barry Bailout - Vote American
August 29th, 2012
5:14 pm
Obozo measures his success by the number of folks he can make dependent on handout programs.
Republicans measure success by how many folks can get THEMSELVES off handout programs.
Americans (and some Democrats) will side with Republicans.
Humpty
August 29th, 2012
5:14 pm
lulu
I don’t live in NJ and could careless nor have you seen me praise or demean Christie, but nice try.
Lil' Barry Bailout - Vote American
August 29th, 2012
5:15 pm
You don’t want to get in a game of “Can You Top This” with JamVet!
He’s a keyboard renaissance man.
JamVet
August 29th, 2012
5:17 pm
Dad, interesting that you have no real cogent comebacks, just childish red herrings about stereotyping and a deep abiding hatred for our government.
Being as huge as that man is, is a death sentence. He will probably not be around in ten years. His heart and other organs cannot take the stress.
I advocate compassionately that he get help. That he employ the services of professional nutritionists, coaches – physical and psychological – to help him get rid of those hundreds of excess pounds.
Starting TODAY!
You apparently advocate that he do nothing.
Out of spite?
JamVet
August 29th, 2012
5:18 pm
BB, go have another couple dozen Twinkies…
Lil' Barry Bailout - Vote American
August 29th, 2012
5:21 pm
curious: Why did Reagan kick off his 1980 campaign in Philadelphia, Mississippi?
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He didn’t. He did give a speech at the nearby Neshoba County Fair on August 3, 1980.
Jeez, you just made yourself look stupid. How about checking the facts before repeating back the little narratives your stoogemasters feed you?
Dusty
August 29th, 2012
5:21 pm
Good heavens! Did Bookman close down his blog so all his” chilluns” could post over here?
JamVet is preaching like he’s holding a revival down at Five Points. Even Finn is a bit overwhelemed by the surge of sludge and select misrepresentation not to mention the big fat lies. The lady lawyer of lower logistics has also awarded us a comment and a screech. We are so blessed!!
When Kyle comes back I hope he sweeps the floor and washes windows. it is really getting messy here.
Lil' Barry Bailout - Vote American
August 29th, 2012
5:22 pm
Why, JamVet, so you can claim you won a Twinkie eating contest?
The Fresh Prince of Bill Ayers
August 29th, 2012
5:22 pm
The only thing that the Dem’s and the media have is divisiveness and the race card. If they can create hate between the races like they have with the occutards and wall street things are going to get mighty ugly. The media is driving the divisiveness in this country.
kayaker 71
August 29th, 2012
5:24 pm
jamVet, 5:17,
Your compassion for Christie overwhelms me. Granted, he needs a good weight loss program which includes lots of professionals involved. You are correct about that. But, really, you could care less if he lives or dies. Your compassion for successful Republican governors who would run their states on a sane fiscal basis is doubtful.
The Fresh Prince of Bill Ayers
August 29th, 2012
5:24 pm
I have a home workout that I do almost every day
Really AmVet? Chasing gerbils is out of necessity…
Lil' Barry Bailout - Vote American
August 29th, 2012
5:25 pm
JamVet, what’s your prescription for Moochelle Obozo’s huuuuge caboose?
The Fresh Prince of Bill Ayers
August 29th, 2012
5:27 pm
Lil’ Barry Bailout – Vote American
August 29th, 2012
5:25 pm
JamVet, what’s your prescription for Moochelle Obozo’s huuuuge caboose?
Thighposuction would be a start.
kayaker 71
August 29th, 2012
5:28 pm
Lil’ Barry, 5:25,
Sometimes those cabooses come in handy. Something to set your beer on.
Lulu
August 29th, 2012
5:28 pm
Jam Vet
My point in my post is that we don’t need to government to tell us what to do or how to live our lives. I am so thankful that I live in a country where I can choose for myself what and how I am going to live my life. If I chose to be unhealthy, that is my choice and I alone will suffer the consequences. If I chose to be healthy, I alone will reap the benefits. But it’s MY choice. Unless liberals have their way.
And as a matter of fact, I am in excellent health. I haven’t smoked a cigarette ever, and I drink only on occassion. I didn’t train to be in the Senior Olympics, but I do cycle many races throughout the year, including “Ride the Rockies”.
And for somebody who is fit, you should know that in order to improve and maintain cardiovascular health you have to INCREASE your resting heart rate by approximately 100%. So if your RHR is 60 bpm, when you are exercising it should be around 120 bpm.
The fact that you categorize conservatives as flabby, and your comments about Christie, shows your true colors, and you are deflecting the real issues.
The Fresh Prince of Bill Ayers
August 29th, 2012
5:29 pm
Lil’ Barry Bailout – Vote American
August 29th, 2012
5:25 pm
JamVet, what’s your prescription for Moochelle Obozo’s huuuuge caboose?
Do you think that caboose can squeeze into 1 seat on air force one without vaseline?
JamVet
August 29th, 2012
5:30 pm
BB, be a good kid, forget about me, go watch some cartoons and let the adults discuss these matters.
If Christie dies prematurely, it is his own choice, 71. You of all people should know that. I’m almost surprised that you even agreed that he needs to take some action right now. Very anti-Republican. That must have taken a whole lot of moral courage to agree with me, huh?
LOL…
The Fresh Prince of Bill Ayers
August 29th, 2012
5:32 pm
The fact that you categorize conservatives as flabby, and your comments about Christie, shows your true colors, and you are deflecting the real issues
Lulu, you hit the nail on the head. His hatred of conservatives = Klan hatred of african americans. But it’s ok, republicans are racist and haters, and the enlightened libs are “TOLERANT”. Gag
td
August 29th, 2012
5:33 pm
JamVet
August 29th, 2012
5:30 pm
“If Christie dies prematurely, it is his own choice”
Just like people that only make $30,000 per year are doing it due to the choices they have made.
The government should not be involved in either case.
The Fresh Prince of Bill Ayers
August 29th, 2012
5:34 pm
kayaker 71
August 29th, 2012
5:28 pm
Lil’ Barry, 5:25,
Sometimes those cabooses come in handy. Something to set your beer on.
Yeah, but when it blocks your view of the IMAX screen after shelling out 12.50 per seat, it’s useless.
@@
August 29th, 2012
5:35 pm
What? Liberals never noticed how rotund Barney Frank is? Jerrold Nadler?
The late Senator Kennedy?
I could probably go on but is there a point to this discussion?
Lil' Barry Bailout - Vote American
August 29th, 2012
5:36 pm
The Fresh Prince of Bill Ayers: Do you think that caboose can squeeze into 1 seat on air force one without vaseline?
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Hmm…maybe THAT is why she and Lil’ Barry Bailout had to take separate jumbo jets to their Martha’s Vineyard vacation last time.
Good use of taxpayer money, Democrats.
The Fresh Prince of Bill Ayers
August 29th, 2012
5:39 pm
Lil’ Barry Bailout – Vote American
August 29th, 2012
5:36 pm
The Fresh Prince of Bill Ayers: Do you think that caboose can squeeze into 1 seat on air force one without vaseline?
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Hmm…maybe THAT is why she and Lil’ Barry Bailout had to take separate jumbo jets to their Martha’s Vineyard vacation last time.
Ohhh, if only JFK jr had her in his plane. He could have used it for a flotation device and kept his plane above water until the rescue!
JamVet
August 29th, 2012
5:40 pm
So if your RHR is 60 bpm, when you are exercising it should be around 120 bpm.
I got ya, Lulu and concur. Mea culpa, I did not understand your original statement.
See, we share being physically fit!
I, on the other hand, do not hate our government, which is the very model of MANY others around the world. The BEST one ever devised in the entire history of our species.
If you cons want to try drowning it in a bathtub, prepare to go to war with me.
Oh and lest you heavyweights all try to run away from your flabby legacy, the top ten most overweight states are almost all dead red Republican:
1) Mississippi
2) Alabama
3) West Virginia
4) Tennessee
5) Kentucky
6) Louisiana
7) Oklahoma
8 South Carolina
9) Arkansas
10) Michigan
Hiya, Princey. You haven’t gotten sh*tcanned here yet?
LOL…
Lil' Barry Bailout - Vote American
August 29th, 2012
5:42 pm
Ah, tolerance…
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Sick: Wikipedia entry calls Mia Love ‘dirty, worthless wh@re’ and ‘House N***er’
(sorry, can’t post the link because it included the word Democrats use to describe blacks who leave their plantation).
Dusty
August 29th, 2012
5:45 pm
Errr gentlemen
Let us not post with vulgar voices in this precious blog of vim and veracity.. Vamoose with the caboose before someone (security) throws you into the calaboose..
Lil' Barry Bailout - Vote American
August 29th, 2012
5:45 pm
Speaking of Michigan, when do Americans get reimbursed the $50 billion GM hasn’t paid back?
kayaker 71
August 29th, 2012
5:45 pm
JamVet, 5:30,
Certainly, you jest. I agree with a lot of your posts, just not all of them. You are right, it is his choice. But you see someone with his political talent and his personality and you almost want to shake him by the shoulders and wise him up. Most crowd estimates peg his weight at about 335-350. Lots of NFL linemen weigh that much and more but they are in much better shape. You just don’t see very many old fat people. The heart just wears out. I am surprised that he is not a Class I diabetic or at best a Class II. He will turn 50 in one week. If he makes it to age 60 without major heart valve disease he will be lucky. Moral courage? You might be surprised.
Hillbilly D
August 29th, 2012
5:46 pm
I don’t really know who Tom is but this inflation calculator is an interesting thing to play with.
I suspect it may be a tad on the low side, realistically speaking because it shows 4% total inflation between 2010 and 2012. My personal experience would put it more like 12-14%. Anyhow, it’s interesting to play with this thing.
http://www.halfhill.com/inflation.html
Rafe Hollister, suffering through Oblamer's ineptocracy
August 29th, 2012
5:48 pm
Any channel or publication that doesn’t meet his political ideology and weak minded narrative is part of the “liberal media”.
Humpy, you make my point, none of the media outlets are objective anymore, so they have chosen to take sides. CNN should change their name to DNC Central and be up front with their choice.
JamVet
August 29th, 2012
5:50 pm
Chris Christie read he speech last night from a teleprompter??????????????!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
OMG!
JamVet
August 29th, 2012
5:50 pm
Uh, make that HIS speech. (Maybe I need one! LOL at me…)
JamVet
August 29th, 2012
5:52 pm
71, no worries. My bark is worse than my bite!
But I am interested in how the cons here will react to him using the T word device last night.
Cons?
Bueller?
Anyone?
JamVet
August 29th, 2012
5:53 pm
And Ann Romney too?????
Tell me no!
This is absolutely terrible!!!
Lil' Barry Bailout - Vote American
August 29th, 2012
5:56 pm
Teleprompters are pretty standard stuff when making a national address.
Obozo needed one to give a talk to schoolchildren.
Weak effort, JamVet.
JamVet
August 29th, 2012
6:02 pm
BB is a teleprompter champion now????
Zooks, the world is changing right before my very eyes!
You know who was a great teleprompter user – the addled Ronnie Reagan. Like Barry, he absolutely mastered that thing!
George on the other hand, looked like a deer in the headlights every time he had to speak out loud. Teleprompter, written notes, winging it, it didn’t matter. He was almost always capable of saying something extraordinarily awkward if not outright dumb…
Lulu
August 29th, 2012
6:03 pm
Jam Vet
Au contraire, I love my government, but I do not love what has happened to my government.
And I hope that you honestly don’t think that the people in the top ten most un-fit states are conservative because they are fat? Or are you saying they are fat because they are conservative….
Either way, it’s insulting. By inference you are stating that liberals are fit because they are liberals.
I live in Colorado, and it is the most fit state in the country. We have historically voted Republican. As a matter of fact since 1960 for the presidental election, we have voted Democratic three times and Republican 9 times. By contrast West Virginia has voted Democratic 8 vs. 5 times since 1960. Your political beliefs are not predicated on whether or not you are overweight, ugly, short, tall, etc..You vote based upon your beliefs, or for Independents, you vote based on the party that is able to promise what you want to hear.
Hillbilly D
August 29th, 2012
6:04 pm
I knew a guy who was in his 90’s who could stand up and give an hour long talk without so much as an index card……….Of course, unlike most politicians, he knew what he was talking about.
@@
August 29th, 2012
6:06 pm
My bark is worse than my bite!
Yes, AmVet…your frequent charges of racism have no bite. They’re merely convenient when you have nothing else with which to fight.
You’re toothless.
ODD OWL
August 29th, 2012
6:07 pm
Apparently the Romney/Ryan Repblicans have thrown Sarah palin under the their campaign bus or worst, they’ve strapped her arse to the roof of the bus… Be as it may, we can all agree that the Romney/Ryan Republicans have placed a prophylactic raincoat on her tongue…
Humpty
August 29th, 2012
6:08 pm
Rafe
Cable news is more opinion than anything. People on all sides should be smarter than to think that they are getting much more than opinion. There is some news on those channels, but not much compared to the opinion disguised as news.
Some like to cry about it. It is useless. Just don’t watch it
@@
August 29th, 2012
6:12 pm
Hillbilly:
This may come as a surprise, but I have no problem with public speaking. I’ve been told I’m quite good at it.
The secret?
I’m not the least bit concerned with how it’s received. Politicians have to worry about that stuff. With today’s media, it’s understandable.
Hillbilly D
August 29th, 2012
6:15 pm
Humpty
Excellent point. Anybody who talks on TV is selling something and everybody has an ax to grind or an agenda to push. It’s basically just a more polished version of Live Atlanta Wrestling with Ed Capperal and promoter Paul Jones. (Let’s see how many get that reference)
@@
August 29th, 2012
6:16 pm
Sarah Palin is doing what she’s good at. She’s promoting Tea Party candidates and winning.
’twas her calling.
Hillbilly D
August 29th, 2012
6:16 pm
@@
Why, I always pictured you as the shy and retiring type. (IWH)
JamVet
August 29th, 2012
6:18 pm
Lulu, sarcasm runs rampant.
And to your point, those that follow right behind the Centennial State?
Washington DC
Connecticut
Massachusetts
Hawaii
Vermont
I too do not love what has happened to our government.
Washington DC is now corproate owned territory.
The sovereigns in this country – the supreme, independent authority over government – is NO longer we the people.
It is JP Morgan, Citigroup, Bank of America, United Health Group, Aetna, Kaiser, ExxonMobil, WalMart, Chevron, GE, the US Chamber of Commerce, et al, ad nauseum.
They have an ARMY of 10,000 lobbyists on K Street! Who actually write the legislation that protects them because they are the “experts”!
How many do you and I have?
And Mitt Romney and Barack Obama and virtually all of those weasels in Washington take their marching orders from them.
Not you and me.
Hell they are so bribed and emboldened that they no longer even make the pretense of being public servants.
And when Americans finally get fed up and try to stand up to this shenanigans and take to the street sin their patriotic right to protest and redress grievances, what happens?
The neocons go apesh*t berserk and make up endless wholesale malicious lies about decent, hard working, taxpaying American people, just like themselves.
Incredible…
Humpty
August 29th, 2012
6:18 pm
HillBilly D
I like Gordon Solie. Watched him in the 70s and 80s
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oQXwSTh93o8
JamVet
August 29th, 2012
6:20 pm
Save your pathetic excuses and tell us some more about how we need more men like Rand Paul in Washington, the guy who pals around with and accepts the money from some of most slimy racists around.
Sick…
Humpty
August 29th, 2012
6:21 pm
Actually Sarah is not in the best of moods today. My prediction; her star is fading much faster than her fans even realize
“I’m sorry Fox cancelled all my scheduled interviews tonight because I sure wanted to take the opportunity on the air to highlight Senator John McCain’s positive contributions to America, to honor him, and to reflect on what a biased media unfairly put him through four years ago tonight. Granted, our honored and esteemed war hero has gone through much more than the liberal media can ever do to him in their efforts to harm this patriot. I look forward to hearing his words to his fellow Americans tonight more than any of the other convention speeches. God bless John McCain. Thank you for everything. And happy birthday, my friend.”
Humpty
August 29th, 2012
6:22 pm
Palin was wanted at the Republican convention as much as Obama was wanted there.
Lil' Barry Bailout - Vote American
August 29th, 2012
6:25 pm
If you want to get businesses out of Washington, get Washington out of everyone’s business.
We do have a Constitutional right to petition the government, so don’t be surprised that a government that seizes so much power gets lobbied quite a bit.
The government is the problem.
Lil' Barry Bailout - Vote American
August 29th, 2012
6:28 pm
Did any of Rand Paul’s friends stand outside voting places with nightsticks, intimidating voters who didn’t look like them?
T.V. Guide
August 29th, 2012
6:33 pm
Is tonight the night when George Bush, Larry Craig, and Sarah Palin give their keynotes? Will Ted Haggard be giving the invocation to start off the events? Did anyone find David Vitter yet or is still at the strip clubs?
JamVet
August 29th, 2012
6:37 pm
You tell us, BB.
I know that there was one infamous incident in Kentucky where a jackbooted fan of his stomped a harmless, unarmed woman’s head onto the sidewalk.
Maybe you saw it. It was all over the Internets!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XPFBL8dGMDU&feature=related
@@
August 29th, 2012
6:37 pm
And when Americans finally get fed up and try to stand up to this shenanigans and take to the street sin their patriotic right to protest and redress grievances, what happens?
The neocons go apesh*t berserk and make up endless wholesale malicious lies about decent, hard working, taxpaying American people, just like themselves.
And liberals call them blue-haired racists…i.e. The Tea Party, who quickly separated themselves from the OWS anarchists.
@@
August 29th, 2012
6:41 pm
AmVet:
I would never want you sitting on my jury or any jury for that matter.
The guy said he never had a MySpace page. With all the hacking that goes on, it presents a case of reasonable doubt.
Lulu
August 29th, 2012
6:44 pm
WOW T.V. Guide-
Wow….I suppose Weiner will be the Keynote for the Dems huh? And Clinton will give a speech too, but we might have to wait….for the appropriate…..moment……and a good dry cleaner.
JamVet
August 29th, 2012
6:46 pm
Anarchists????
Where do you come up with this stuff??
LOL!
Just admit that your pals here and around the country called those people every disgusting lie imaginable. Even the housewives, nuns, school teachers, firefighters, cops, middle aged employees, college students, veterans, etc.
They did not care.
They lumped everyone of them into their hateful diatribes about them ALL being jobless parasites and rapists.
It was FAR, FAR, FAR beyond anything that was rational and civil disagreement.
A little intellectual honesty won’t kill you…
JamVet
August 29th, 2012
6:47 pm
What in the name of Allah are you talking about now?
MySpace pages??????????????
@@
August 29th, 2012
6:48 pm
AmVet:
The anarchists killed your OWS movement.
@@
August 29th, 2012
6:55 pm
AmVet:
What in the name of Allah are you talking about now?
A few days ago, ou offered up Hightower as evidence of Rand Paul’s racism.
Liberal blogs first posted allegations that Christopher Hightower had racist remarks and pictures on his MySpace.com Web page. Hightower originally disavowed any connection to the Web page; hours later, Paul’s campaign manager announced that Hightower had stepped down.
Only you and the huffers were interested in this Hightower fella. Most Americans never heard of him.
Humpty
August 29th, 2012
7:03 pm
@@
I confess to knowing the guy either and have not looked at all the facts. With that said just because you, me or anyone else doesn’t know someone, doesn’t say what Jamvet posted is untrue.
If a tree fell in the woods today and no one saw it, does that mean it didn’t fall?
Again I do not know the facts of this issue, but your rebuttal is ridiculous to say the least.
JamVet
August 29th, 2012
7:05 pm
More anarchists claptrap? Must be the new flavor of the month for the McCarthyites!
You do not know what you are talking about, so you just make up stupid stuff like that.
Wake up!
White Supremacist groups and websites such as Stormfront regularly raise “money bombs” for Rand Paul and link directly to his site. He has also taken money from white supremacist William Johnson, who his father nominated for a judgeship and Carl Ford who is a member of the league of the South. His opponent Jack Conway has demanded he give back the money but while his campaign has issued statements, he hasn’t returned the money.
And quit endorsing racists…
curious
August 29th, 2012
7:41 pm
Little Barry,
You’re smart and according to you, I’m stupid.
So, what is the county seat of Neshoda County, MS?
@@
August 29th, 2012
7:41 pm
Humpty:
With that said just because you, me or anyone else doesn’t know someone, doesn’t say what Jamvet posted is untrue.
I said it was a case of reasonable doubt.
AmVet:
To the substance. Do you disagree with what Rand Paul said?
Lil' Barry Bailout - Vote American
August 29th, 2012
8:47 pm
curious, do you still think the 1980 cpaign began in August?
Too funny!
I Report (-: You Whine )-: mmm, mmmm, mmmmm! Just sayin...
August 29th, 2012
11:36 pm
New Orleans drowns and obozo fiddles.
Karma.