RNC 2012: Tuesday night thread – roll call, Ann Romney, Chris Christie
Good evening from Tampa, where Mitt Romney has just become the official presidential nominee of the Republican Party. New Jersey’s votes put him over the top in the alphabetical-order roll call of state delegations. He might have gotten there a couple of states earlier if not for a smattering of votes for Ron Paul, including three of Georgia’s 76 votes; one additional Georgia delegate was reported as unassigned, meaning Romney received 72 votes from a state whose March primary was won by Newt Gingrich.
Paul Ryan was confirmed as the vice presidential nominee, and now we’ll have a brief recess and then several speeches in a lineup packed due to the cancellation of Monday’s agenda. Among the speakers are Rick Santorum (on the welfare reform he championed in the 1990s and the Obama administration’s recent move to weaken it), Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker, Democrat-turned-Republican Artur Davis, South Carolina Gov. Nikki Haley, Ann Romney and New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie.
I’ll be commenting on the speeches here, so feel free to join in below.
– By Kyle Wingfield
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a band
August 28th, 2012
10:40 pm
Does anyone else notice the similarity between anns outfit and makeup to Nancy regans at the gop convention in Dallas?
They BOTH suck
August 28th, 2012
10:41 pm
Thulsa
He gives a big flip. He has changed so many social positions it is pathetic. They all do it and it is his right to do so, but let’s be honest here.
He didn’t change all those stances for $hits and grins.
If he knew just economic would win the day, he would have kept his stances. So I am not sure if he really is a social conservative who switched to govern Mass or he is really a moderate.
Not impressed. Granted Obama is not a prize but not impressed with Romney.
Charity bet with Bruno
Thulsa Doom
August 28th, 2012
10:45 pm
“He has changed so many social positions it is pathetic.”
They both suck,
Exactly! That’s my point. And what does that tell you? That he really doesn’t give much of a flip about those side issues if he’s constantly changing positions on them. He doesn’t care about that stuff. His concern is the economy, the debt, and unleashing capitalism to its fullest potential. And at this point in our nation’s history we don’t need the abortion debate all over again. We need the economy to grow and to get our fiscal house in order. All else is secondary.
They BOTH suck
August 28th, 2012
10:48 pm
Thulsa
I’m only one vote and in a red state it means little, but not impressed with Romney. A Republican Congress will have a field day with him on social issues.
I could be wrong, but my vote isn’t taking that chance
Thulsa Doom
August 28th, 2012
10:48 pm
What was the bet with Bruno over? Who wins the election?
Dusty
August 28th, 2012
10:49 pm
They both suck,
Romney flips on social issues and that bothers you.
but Obama flipping on campaign promises does not even get a mention?
I think thee tilts to the left with only a little flip flopping.
I Report (-: You Whine )-: mmm, mmmm, mmmmm! Just sayin...
August 28th, 2012
10:50 pm
I’m still trying to figure out what “Bush and Cheney” have to do with anything.
Talk about being ate up.
They BOTH suck
August 28th, 2012
10:50 pm
TD
If not so many prominent social conservatives with the power they have in both the House and Senate, I would truly consider it. Since it is not the case and it is what it is, I will have to take my chance with Obama and all the warts that come with it.
have a great night
peace
Thulsa Doom
August 28th, 2012
10:51 pm
they both suck,
I dunno. I don’t see much from Congress on social issues. Most of the bills I see pertain to reforming Medicare, bills geared toward deregulation, jobs bills, bills on taxes, on cutting the debt, etc. I don’t see much in the way of social issues that would concern liberals.
They BOTH suck
August 28th, 2012
10:51 pm
Dusty
never said I didn’t lean left. So what is your point?
What I have said is that neither party is worth a damn at governing. THEY BOTH SUCK at it.
Thulsa Doom
August 28th, 2012
10:53 pm
tbs,
peace out brother.
Thulsa Doom
August 28th, 2012
10:58 pm
“I’m still trying to figure out what “Bush and Cheney” have to do with anything.”
Bush and Cheney is more than just a former potus and veep. Its also a sort of dietary supplement. Its a form of red meat fed to frothing liberals suffering from BDS(Bush derangement syndrome). Feed them a little Bush and Cheney and they are satiated for hours on end.
They BOTH suck
August 28th, 2012
10:58 pm
TD
yes who wins. Money goes to charity of choice of winner, so it is a win win.
And now out for real
later
Thulsa Doom
August 28th, 2012
11:00 pm
“Does anyone else notice the similarity between anns outfit and makeup to Nancy regans at the gop convention in Dallas?”
Hell I can’t remember what I had for breakfast. I sure as hell can’t remember nancy Reagan’s makeup or fashion ensemble from a previous convention.
Thulsa Doom
August 28th, 2012
11:04 pm
Dusty,
They both suck definitely leans left. But you can still have a thoughtful, meaningful dialogue with him. You know how it is. Ya got your koolaid drinkers that can’t be reasoned with or see a point of view from the other side to save their life. And then you got people that tilt to that side but can open their minds to your point of view. They may still disagree. But they are at least open minded enough to hear what you have to say, disagree politely if they’re not convinced, and agree to respectfully disagree. They both suck is one a them types.
Dusty
August 28th, 2012
11:06 pm
Sorry,…. They BOTH suck
I thought you were trying to be in the middle of the road above the fracas. Both parties suck, huh?
Whom do you think should lead politics if we don’t have parties?
As Thulsa said recently, it’s just a rhetorical question. .
td
August 28th, 2012
11:07 pm
“Victims destiny”= Democrats. I will never forget that line because it is the absolute truth and is the best way I have ever heard a liberal described.
old timer
August 28th, 2012
11:10 pm
I think tonight makes a differnce
I Report (-: You Whine )-: mmm, mmmm, mmmmm! Just sayin...
August 28th, 2012
11:14 pm
Our guy isn’t a psychopath that hates the country he lives in and abhors all success except for his.
And Ann Romney won’t tell you how to chew your food.
I have no idea what the question is.
Dusty
August 28th, 2012
11:21 pm
Thulsa,
I’m quite familiar with both kinds of liberals. Unfortunately, what we see here most of the time are the extremists. I left the Bookman blog because of the detrimental atmosphere there. I hate to see it brought here especially when it seems to be done only to disrupt the blog, not to present other political views.
I hope They BOTH Sucks continues to drop by. I wish Josef would visit too. On occasion I even enjoy AquaGirl but don’t tell her.
G’nite. .
Thulsa Doom
August 28th, 2012
11:22 pm
td,
Victims destiny = democrats. I kinda like that one.
Towncrier invented a good one the other day when he referred to kamspam when seeing sillyisms like “there’s your sign” or “the smoking gun is in the mushroom cloud”. I about fell outta my chair laughing when I saw that one.
Thulsa Doom
August 28th, 2012
11:26 pm
Dusty,
Yeah. I’m a little disappointed that josef doesn’t stop by at least to say hi to Bruno. Me and aquagirl usually go at it a little but she’s good at heart and she even defended me the other day. Plus she says some downright funny things and that’s gotta count for something. I remember one time she referred to Bush as Captain McBunny pants. I still get a chuckle out of that. But some of the regulars who spout nonsense like “there’s your sign” because they can’t make an intelligent debate point need to just stay over there.
Tundra Dude
August 28th, 2012
11:31 pm
Sher Valenzuela, candidate for Lt. Gov. in Delaware, has a pretty powerful story about having an autistic son and starting a successful business in order to make the money to pay for her son’s needs
She’s a great example of the Power of Gubmint assistance:
1998 First State Manufacturing got its feet on the ground with an initial $20,000 loan from the Small Business Administration.
1999 Earned larger contracts with assistance from local Procurement Technical Assistance Center (PTAC)
2001 It got a $65,800 disaster loan to deal with business fall-out from the Sept. 11 attacks.
2002 two loans from the SBA , one for $96,000 7(A) to modernize and expand inventory.
• FSM’s 40 employees now work out of facility funded by a $1.8 million SBA 504 loan.
td
August 28th, 2012
11:37 pm
Thulsa Doom
August 28th, 2012
11:22 pm
td,
Victims destiny = democrats. I kinda like that one.
Towncrier invented a good one the other day when he referred to kamspam when seeing sillyisms like “there’s your sign” or “the smoking gun is in the mushroom cloud”. I about fell outta my chair laughing when I saw that one.
Chris Christies line tonight. So profound.
I saw that one also and almost fell out of my chair laughing too.
I Report (-: You Whine )-: mmm, mmmm, mmmmm! Just sayin...
August 28th, 2012
11:38 pm
SBA doesn’t underwrite any loans, the capitalists on Wall Street do. You can’t even apply for a loan through the SBA, you have to go to the BB&T’s or the Wells Fargos and they give you the money.
The government is only there to bailout the Wall Streeters if you can’t make the payments. Kinda like the housing bubble that almost destroyed our country.
And nothing like it was done before this crappy government grew too big for it’s britches and left the risk to We The People.
But then again, We The People used to be grown ups who didn’t need the crappy government to carry us around.
I Report (-: You Whine )-: mmm, mmmm, mmmmm! Just sayin...
August 28th, 2012
11:43 pm
The day after the crappy government and all of it’s mindless regulations are broken and discarded, you will witness wealth creation on a scale never before seen in history.
Romney could very well be the second coming of George Washington.
Tundra Dude
August 28th, 2012
11:47 pm
old timer:
I think tonight makes a difference
or maybe not……
“There’s a lot of parallels between these two guys…” Newt G
100 Ways Mitt Romney Is Just Like Barack Obama
http://ivn.us/2012/07/17/100-ways-mitt-romney-is-just-like-barack-obama
I Report (-: You Whine )-: mmm, mmmm, mmmmm! Just sayin...
August 28th, 2012
11:51 pm
The crappy government and it’s current leader, a freaking foreigner, think that by shuffling the deck and buying the distressed a few more minutes before total ruin over takes them, they will do just enough to get through the next election. After that, they don’t have to buy anymore votes.
I don’t even understand what the question is.
Thulsa Doom
August 28th, 2012
11:52 pm
Tundra Dude,
You mentioned 5 different loans/contracts given to this one company by taxpayer money. At what point do they become independent, quit relying on taxpayer funded money, and get conventional loans from private markets like everyone else. I’m sure its a nice story and all but why does my taxmoney have to be used to fund this particular business- or any business for that matter. I have a small business. No one funds my small agency. So why am I paying taxes to fund someone else’s small business when I myself get no funding?
Thulsa Doom
August 28th, 2012
11:58 pm
My younger brother and my former business partner both went down to the SBA to see about getting a small business loan. Both of them literally had the SBA officer laugh at them. In a nutshell they were the wrong skin color. My brother thought about getting a female friend as a business partner but eventually just went it alone and without govt money. My friend eventually just went into business with me. Both times the guy that laughed at them was a white guy and basically just leveled with them and said it wasn’t going to happen with them unless they had a minority partnership. That was a wake up call for both of them about the govt playing field being not quite equal. Not for them anyway.
Tiberius - pulling the tail of the left AND right when needed
August 29th, 2012
12:01 am
“The WORK REQUIREMENT IS STILL THERE!”
Well, if keeping a diary is your idea of “work”, Lynnie Gal, then you might be right.
Unfortunately, you are not.
Tiberius - pulling the tail of the left AND right when needed
August 29th, 2012
12:12 am
Overall, very impressed with Ann Romney’s speech. She really put the War on Women crowd back on their heels with the first part. I loved her line regarding their “fairy tale marriage” not being written with MS and breast cancer. Very good line about Mitt helping people because he considers it a privilege, not a political talking point. That one might even shut up Chris Matthews, but I doubt it. Her money line about Mitt was that “he will not fail”.
Chris Christie’s speech was excellent as well. Yeah, he took too long to mention the actual nominee, but otherwise, he threw down the gauntlet to Obama about this campaign now being about the big issues. I don’t know how this will play with the electorate, but it was refreshing to hear that kind of talk instead of the “we’ll make it all better” crap coming from Obama.
Finn McCool
August 29th, 2012
5:29 am
Enjoy this week, Cons cause it’s gonna be a pity party for you till 2016.
marko
August 29th, 2012
5:52 am
I thought that Mitt was the son of a multi millionaire, CEO, Governor. Boy did I get it wrong. Turns out old Mitt was born in a log cabin that he built with his own two hands. Now that I know that Mitt had to burn his tax returns to keep from freezing, at valley Forge, I fully understand why he can’t provide them them. What are we waiting for? There’s plenty of room left at Mt. Rushmore.
Thomas Heyward Jr.
August 29th, 2012
6:04 am
Don’t fret Repubs.
Karl Rove and the Central committee already has another (small government,cough,cough,fiscal conservative cough cough,) picked out for ya’ll in 2016.
.
Rumers are claiming Scott “John Kerry3″ Brown of Massachusetts.
.
lol.
marko
August 29th, 2012
6:55 am
I can’t understand all the criticism of Christie’s Off key note address, I thought it was right up there with Jimmy Carters famous Malaise speech.
dagnabit
August 29th, 2012
7:10 am
I don’t want to know Romney but I would like to trust him. I want some of those free checks from Welfare. I’m poor and unemployed and Iwant to know where I can get some of these free checks without working.
Road Scholar
August 29th, 2012
7:27 am
Kyle:”Right, if by “in the command center monitoring NO” you mean “holding campaign events in Iowa and Colorado.””
So you don’t respect people who can multi-task? Good job Brownie!
Lil' Barry Bailout - Vote American
August 29th, 2012
7:29 am
Thulsa Doom: we don’t need the abortion debate all over again. We need the economy to grow and to get our fiscal house in order. All else is secondary.
————
I’m sure that President Romney would agree with that, along with the millions of Americans who make up Obozo’s four years of 8-10% unemployment.
Skip
August 29th, 2012
7:39 am
The poor must have got that way from buying congressmen, how else could they have so much power?
independent thinker
August 29th, 2012
7:46 am
Anne Romney says we need love and trust then the oversized bufoon from NJ says we do not need love – we need respect. Spoken like a Jersey gangster. Did anyone notice that the speakers other than Anne gave no fundamental reason to vote for Romney and Ryan?
Great to have Santorum repeat the race baiting lies about welfare on national tv.
However Scott Walker and Nicki Haley were excellent. If either of them were running , I would have to give this election some serious thought
Hey Anne – when are you going to release the “ammunition” so I can trust your husband?
As Reagan said trust and verify.
@@
August 29th, 2012
7:47 am
TBs:
I’m only one vote and in a red state it means little, but not impressed with Romney
And I’m only one vote in a blue county it means little, but not impressed with Victor Hill.
fair and balanced
August 29th, 2012
7:51 am
Tundra dude- a little hypocrisy on the red side of the aisle is not surprising – it is routine in this election.Kinda like that big fat guy from NJ talking about bipartisan support and compromise to the party of NO.
md
August 29th, 2012
7:53 am
“Did anyone notice that the speakers other than Anne gave no fundamental reason to vote for Romney and Ryan?”
????
Christie did an entire us and them list……did you not hear him?
md
August 29th, 2012
7:58 am
It was mentioned above that Romney is too far right on the social issues, and that is certainly debatable. But here’s how I see it……those issues mean very little when an economy is adding 1.5 trillion to the debt each and every year.
Obama’s solution seems to be reigning in the engine that runs the train while Romney is ready and willing to rev up the engine. I’d much rather try to slow the train down at some point than do 5 mph for the entire trip.
And those social issues? I guess we can stand around the unemployment lines and debate those all day long since the economy will be stuck in neutral……………
md
August 29th, 2012
8:11 am
There are reports of flooding again in NO with people stranded……..where is gm? I’m curious as to who’s fault it is that they made the choice to stay………
@@
August 29th, 2012
8:16 am
Chris Christie issued a broad indictment of Democrats as “disciples of yesterday’s politics” who “whistle a happy tune” while taking the country off a fiscal cliff.
I have to admit, the GOP we saw last night is not the GOP we saw four years ago. Younger and “fresher”….like Christie.
I enjoyed Christie’s “We did it” message.
Lil' Barry Bailout - Vote American
August 29th, 2012
8:20 am
Obozo on Medicare: “We bilked that!”
kayaker 71
August 29th, 2012
8:29 am
(@Y@) 8:16,
I was hoping for more from Christie. He needed to kick some serious ass and he didn’t. Nikki was far and away the best speaker.
Rush
August 29th, 2012
8:30 am
md:
It would have to be Bush’s fault…..they would not let those poor NOLA’s leave on their own accord.