11th Circuit upholds most of Georgia’s illegal-immigration law (Updated)
UPDATE at 5:50 p.m.: Regarding the section of the law that makes it illegal to knowingly transport or harbor illegal immigrants, the court found not only that Georgia’s law infringes on the federal prerogative to make immigration law. The court further ruled that Georgia could not make it illegal to induce an illegal immigrant to enter the state once already present in the U.S. Those provisions remain blocked from taking effect by a court injunction.
To be clear, and to correct my inapt phrasing in the original post, the court did not say the other sections of the law are constitutional. A lower court had enjoined two sections from taking effect while the question of constitutionality is argued. The section of the law dealing with checking detainees’ immigration status is still being challenged, although the Supreme Court’s ruling about a similar law in Arizona suggests that section is likely to remain in place until and unless there are specific challenges to the way it is applied.
ORIGINAL POST:
The 11th Circuit has upheld the controversial section of Georgia’s 2011 illegal-immigration law that allows law enforcement to check the immigration status of people detained for certain crimes. The federal appeals court found 22 of the law’s 23 sections met constitutional muster and kept only one section blocked from taking effect. From the AJC:
[T]he 11th Circuit Court of Appeals also said it recognizes arguments from civil and immigrant rights activists that this statute “invites a host of other problems, namely racial profiling.”
“Reliance on race, color, or national origin that is constitutionally prohibited, however, is expressly forbidden by the Georgia statute,” the court said in its 33-page ruling, released Monday.
“It is inappropriate for us to assume that the state will disregard its own law, and we therefore reject the argument in this respect, keeping in mind that unconstitutional application of the statute could be challenged in later litigation.”
The court also ruled that another part of Georgia’s sweeping illegal immigration law should remain on hold. That provision would punish people who knowingly transport or harbor illegal immigrants while committing another crime.
Georgia Attorney General Sam Olens said via press release that it was too early to say whether the state would appeal to the U.S. Supreme Court to restore that section of the law.
– By Kyle Wingfield
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wallbanger
August 20th, 2012
5:24 pm
I fail to understand how people who are illegally in this country are granted all these rights of privacy, and that anyone is worried about racially profiling them. If they are not here illegally, then checking their status shouldn’t bother anyone. I mean, we all have to show identification for just about everything we do, including visiting our local YMCA. What is the big deal? Why should anyone be exempt from having their status checked? Particularly those who are breaking the law by being in this country in the first place.
po dunk
August 20th, 2012
5:29 pm
Kyle
What are the main differences in the GA and the AZ laws?
SlickRick - glad to not have to worry about suffering through Myth Robme and The Boy Wonder's ineptocracy
August 20th, 2012
5:30 pm
Yay! More state-sanctioned racism, bigotry and general hatred of things and people different. Boy is it great living in the south.
Simple Truths
August 20th, 2012
5:36 pm
So, SlickRick, what other laws do you think should not be enforced? Please, share your wisdom with us.
ragnar danneskjold
August 20th, 2012
5:38 pm
I am amused by the odd section thrown out, “That provision would punish people who knowingly transport or harbor illegal immigrants while committing another crime.” Guess that means that if I hired illegal aliens to drive me at 56 mph on I-285, I would be guilty of a second crime?
Stephenson Billings
August 20th, 2012
5:42 pm
“Boy is it great living in the south.”
All those Lib’ral Northern states are ready when you are. In fact, they could use you since most everyone is leaving anyways.
LJ
August 20th, 2012
5:44 pm
Way to show some impartiality and professionalism with the headline, AJC : “Show me your papers law upheld”
Stephenson Billings
August 20th, 2012
5:45 pm
Won’t matter anyway since Obama will just instruct ICE to ignore our law enforcement when they go to them.
Lil' Barry Bailout - Vote American
August 20th, 2012
5:46 pm
Americans win one.
Van
August 20th, 2012
5:49 pm
What part of “illegal” and “breaking the law” do they not understand? If a policeman/woman pulls me over, I must show identification…does that mean I don’t have to show them if I have a valid drivers lisence? Guess they cannot give me a ticket because I’m a woman, and that would be gender profiling.
Skip
August 20th, 2012
5:49 pm
Wonder how many middle aged white guys will be asked for papers? Remember, all illegals are dark skinned.
markie mark
August 20th, 2012
5:52 pm
Hey skip, years ago I had a dutch girlfriend here in Atlanta….white as snow…and she was illegal because she didnt want to go back home after her work visa expires….
markie mark
August 20th, 2012
5:52 pm
sorry, that was “expired”
Rafe Hollister, suffering through Oblamer's ineptocracy
August 20th, 2012
5:54 pm
Common sense prevails, sometimes.
Rafe Hollister, suffering through Oblamer's ineptocracy
August 20th, 2012
5:57 pm
Skip, they ask for my papers every time, I am pulled over. License please!
Lil' Barry Bailout - Vote American
August 20th, 2012
5:59 pm
Skip: all illegals are dark skinned.
—————–
No prejudice there…
td
August 20th, 2012
6:08 pm
Skip
August 20th, 2012
5:49 pm
Wonder how many middle aged white guys will be asked for papers? Remember, all illegals are dark skinned.
If you have a valid Georgia DL then you have presented your verification “papers” to the state and are either a citizen or a legal immigrant.
JohnnyReb
August 20th, 2012
6:16 pm
It is stupid and extremely expensive not to profile. And, as far as I can see, the only people who benefit from no profiling are the ones likely to be breaking the law.
Georgia’s new driver license verification process should result in meaning if you have a valid license you are legal. If no valid license, off to jail, run the checks and send the person out of the country if not legal.
Of course, if that is to occur, we must have Republicans in office as little Barry give away has demonstrated he only enforces laws to which he agrees.
Moremantabby
August 20th, 2012
6:24 pm
So, other than raising the cost of my chicken, vegatables and yard work, how does this affect me?
Aquagirl
August 20th, 2012
6:25 pm
as far as I can see, the only people who benefit from no profiling are the ones likely to be breaking the law.
Or, y’know, brown people who think they shouldn’t be hassled for being brown.
American whose ancestors also immigrated
August 20th, 2012
6:29 pm
As usual the comments are very interesting. I must say, I consider myself libertarian/conservative but have had my eyes opened over the past 4 years being married to a wonderful woman from a latin american country. I have never seen a harder working bunch of friends than hers. She paid taxes previously under a tax id number; there are no illegal immigrants milking the system – no SS# no benefits. The only people I’ve know personally who’ve applied for food stamps were Puerto Rican and therefore legally allowed to do so. When I read this headline I couldn’t help think of a fake German accent – “Papers, please”. you should all be very wary of the slippery slope we are all on.
I Report (-: You Whine )-: mmm, mmmm, mmmmm! Just sayin...
August 20th, 2012
6:35 pm
Drop that bad section from the law and lets start roundin em up.
Hillbilly D
August 20th, 2012
6:38 pm
“It is inappropriate for us to assume that the state will disregard its own law,
A bit of irony there because if the Federal government hadn’t disregarded its own laws, we wouldn’t be having this discussion.
Centrist
August 20th, 2012
6:51 pm
Every once in a while our judicial (not often justice) system gets it right. This is one of those rare occasions.
I Report (-: You Whine )-: mmm, mmmm, mmmmm! Just sayin...
August 20th, 2012
7:06 pm
Ann Coulter @AnnCoulter
Dems spent @ $2 million on ads boosting Todd Akin in the primary, according to the NYT – nyti.ms/Rc4sbh Pls withdraw @ToddAkin!
What’d I tell you about this guy being a lib plant.
Am I not the man?
TRUTH
August 20th, 2012
7:12 pm
Man, I am so glad to have moved from Georgia. Once upon a time, GA was seen as a progressive and growing state. Now, its a backwards, hate-filled, place (along with the other RePukeLiKKKan states that are doing this). Sounds like Jim Crow too me. Just this time, its to Latinos/Hispanics. Doesn’t make it any different in my eyes. Most are honest and hardworking, they just don’t have a clear path to citizenship. I believe that all should be welcome here, and if they are here illegally (and over 12M are), deportation is really not going to do it. Granted, it affects certain social programs (and Heaven help us if Mitt Phoney and Paul Lyan get in, then it will be a clusterpuck), but f when its discovered that they are not in the country legally, they must pay into the system (funny how money makes everyone “almost equal.”)
Truth is, business owners hire illegal workers and they then create a sub financial system and not pay into the system that us legal residents are bound by law to do so. And to date, not ONE business owner has been convicted of dong so. Kinda like Voter Fraud, huh, RepukeliKKKans?
Just sayin’….
Centrist
August 20th, 2012
7:12 pm
“American whose ancestors also immigrated” posted “there are no illegal immigrants milking the system – no SS# no benefits.”
If only that were true.
In addition to the welfare, SSI, Temporary Assistance for Needy Families (TANF – 60 months), WIC, housing, taxpayer supported free hospital care, schooling with free breakfast and lunch, and crime – according to the U.S. Treasury Department, illegal aliens are bilking the federal government for billions because they are filing fraudulent returns.
A refund credit can be claimed even even if no income tax was withheld or paid, up to $1,000 per child. An estimated additional $1.8 billion was going to illegals via the Earned Income Tax Credit, for which they are also ineligible because it can be claimed only by taxpayers with Social Security numbers. Assume they are voting illegally, too.
too much
August 20th, 2012
7:18 pm
I report
What you fail to see is that Akin was the most extreme right wing candidate?
Why do you not like him now?
too much
August 20th, 2012
7:20 pm
Senate Democrats got exactly what they wanted in Missouri on Tuesday night. Now comes the hard part.
Republican Rep. Todd Akin’s primary victory clearly boosted vulnerable Democratic Sen. Claire McCaskill’s survival odds this fall. But to win, McCaskill will have to make the general election campaign as much about her opponent as herself.
That’s easier said than done. But Akin — and some of the things he’s said in the past — does make it a bit easier.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the-fix/post/why-todd-akins-win-gives-democrats-hope-in-missouri/2012/08/08/6e0246b8-e16c-11e1-ae7f-d2a13e249eb2_blog.html
He is proving the Democrats to be right in this situation. Didn’t even take two weeks for him to blow it
too much
August 20th, 2012
7:22 pm
I report
No you are not. The Washington Post, NY Times and others were saying this two weeks ago.
Nothing new here, but if it makes you feel good to be two weeks late, run with it.
Run Forest , run
Thomas Heyward Jr.
August 20th, 2012
7:25 pm
Real Georgians could care less about what Federal judges say or “rule”.
.
If your county Sheriff does…………………………fire him.
Centrist
August 20th, 2012
7:25 pm
According to the Paw Hispanic Center website, in their investigation of immigration crime statistics and the federal law courts records, 40% of all sentenced federal offenders were Latinos. Of those, 72% were not U.S. citizens.
13 people die every day due to illegal immigrants involved in traffic accidents.
$113,000,000,000 – This year’s cost of US illegal immigration. Approximately 75% of that cost is absorbed by the states.
$1117 – The average amount you and your family paid in taxes this year to support illegals.
$52,000,000,000 – The cost of educating the children of illegals. This is by far the single largest cost to the American taxpayer.
$2,700 – The average dollar amount a single illegal household costs the US federal government.
51% – The percentage of Mexican immigrant households that use at least one major welfare program. 28% use more than one.
1,400,000- The number of illegal immigrant households that use at least one major welfare program.
I Report (-: You Whine )-: mmm, mmmm, mmmmm! Just sayin...
August 20th, 2012
7:30 pm
Oh, I get it, the dummycrats were buying ads on behalf of the guy they didn’t want McCaskill to face.
uh-huh.
too much
August 20th, 2012
7:35 pm
“There’s a reason why Democrats spent over $1.5 million trying to help Akin win his three-way primary. He was the most conservative candidate in the field — and the most unpredictable one. He shook up his campaign staff late last year. He recently released a head-scratching and jumbled campaign ad. And Democrats have already launched a microsite highlighting his controversial statements that won’t play well with moderates. (“America has got the equivalent of the stage III cancer of socialism because the federal government is tampering in all kinds of stuff it has no business tampering in,” Akin once said.)”
The right wing talk show flock fell for their own talking pts. Get the most conservative candidate. That will win every time.
You guys no the lingo
hahahahahahaha
Talk radio and the Democrats lead you to slaughter
I Report (-: You Whine )-: mmm, mmmm, mmmmm! Just sayin...
August 20th, 2012
7:38 pm
And take it even a step further – What Akin said about rape and women having the ability to close their bodies off to it, that sounds just like “War on Women” or some other nonsense a lib would come up with.
He’s a plant.
too much
August 20th, 2012
7:38 pm
I report would have voted for the most conservative candidate.
Guess who that was.
Centrist
August 20th, 2012
7:39 pm
@ too much – if you are right, and others who say Democrats got Akin nominated – they may have overplayed their hands. Akin will be out by mid-week and possible Republican replacements include three former senators: John Ashcroft, Jim Talent, and Kit Bond. Other names being mentioned include former Ambassador Ann Wagner, who is running for Akin’s now-vacant seat; and Auditor Tom Schweich.
too much
August 20th, 2012
7:39 pm
In Missouri, the strength of this line of attack will be especially important for the GOP. Akin’s tendency to chart his own path (which, on occasion, has also been the politically problematic one) suggests that Democrats might be handed new fodder for their own attack ads this fall.
Akin’s uncompromising brand of social conservatism, for example, might lead him to say something that may give political moderates — the same moderates who don’t like the economic policies advanced by Obama and Senate Democrats — pause in the Senate race.
too much
August 20th, 2012
7:40 pm
It is all falling into place and the “I reports” of MO didn’t know what hit them until they were run over………………… from 2 weeks ago. He already “slipped”, which was already mentioned
hahahahahahah
Everything has to go right in the fall for McCaskill to survive. Akin has to slip up, she has to be flawless, and it may even take a little luck. But on this day, Democrats can argue that much of the race has gone right for them so far, with Akin’s win being the latest example of their strategy succeeding. And they’d be correct.
too much
August 20th, 2012
7:42 pm
Centrists
We will see, but the conservatives went with the talk show pundit mantra: vote for the most conseravtive candidate. The Dems knew they would do it and just provided a helping hand to the willingly “unknowing”.
I Report (-: You Whine )-: mmm, mmmm, mmmmm! Just sayin...
August 20th, 2012
7:47 pm
too much – It may be above your pay grade but the current officeholder in Mizzou is a dummycrat. I’m thinking they don’t vote for “the most Conservative” candidates over there.
Leave me out of it.
too much
August 20th, 2012
7:53 pm
Actually the general consensus is that Akin is the MOST conservative out of those who were seeking the Republican nomination.
The “I Reports” of MO bought in and voted for the most conservative guy like talk radio and Fox instructs you guys to do and this is what you got.
Oh well
Good luck
too much
August 20th, 2012
7:56 pm
I report
How funny is that run leaning media has been running stories today about how the Dems backed Akin.
They didn’t think a think about it two weeks ago when the mainstream media was telling trying to tell what the Democrats did.
Nothing was hidden. It has been out in the open.
The “right” only got upset when their candidate stepped in a big pile that the Democrats expected him to do.
The gift probably came earlier than they imagined
too much
August 20th, 2012
7:57 pm
right leaning, not run leading
I Report (-: You Whine )-: mmm, mmmm, mmmmm! Just sayin...
August 20th, 2012
7:58 pm
I’m not upset, tm, he’s your guy.
too much
August 20th, 2012
8:00 pm
No he is the guy that MO Republicans voted for in the primary
The inability to see that the most conservative guy isn’t always the best guy, got you in trouble.
It is effn funny to say the least.
If MO Republicans were duped by advertising, that is their ignorance and stupidity, not the Democrats
I Report (-: You Whine )-: mmm, mmmm, mmmmm! Just sayin...
August 20th, 2012
8:05 pm
Yeah, I’m sure that no dummycrats crossed over and voted for the guy that their party squandered 2 Million Dollars on.
And now, you get the guys you didn’t want.
too much
August 20th, 2012
8:07 pm
I report
Can you prove that or just doubling down on ignorance?
I’ve been reading post on this blog lately and you do a great job of that
Lil' Barry Bailout - Vote American
August 20th, 2012
8:13 pm
TRUTH: And to date, not ONE business owner has been convicted of dong so.
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Yes, and guess who’s supposed to be doing that? Obozo!
Hypocrite.
I Report (-: You Whine )-: mmm, mmmm, mmmmm! Just sayin...
August 20th, 2012
8:15 pm
too much – Only because I’m a long time veteran of reading liberal gibberish can I understand your jumbled up, mangled attempts at sentence writing.
I’m ignorant?
too much
August 20th, 2012
8:18 pm
Do you have proof that Democrats crossed over and helped Akin win or are you doubling down on ignorance?
too much
August 20th, 2012
8:20 pm
When someone says “I’m sure”, that is doesn’t come across as an opinion.
Can you back that up with fact or are you not so sure because you can’t back it up?
Nd you will need the voting stats of all the candidates to verify that it was the Democrats that lead him to victory.
You can back that assertion up, right?
hahahahahaha
I Report (-: You Whine )-: mmm, mmmm, mmmmm! Just sayin...
August 20th, 2012
8:23 pm
From the Huff and Puff
no significant Dem races (0+ / 0-)
here in SW Mo. so I’m crossing over to vote for Akin.
He’s my guy until I vote for Claire!
“Fascism is attracting the dregs of humanity- people with a slovenly biography – sadists, mental freaks, traitors.” – ILYA EHRENBURG
by durrati on Tue Aug 07, 2012 at 07:53:01 AM PDT
md
August 20th, 2012
8:25 pm
“you should all be very wary of the slippery slope we are all on.”
That slippery slope started with amnesty number 1. The US announced to the world that all that came illegally would go unpunished. The world listened, and came in even greater numbers.
And now, we are about to do it again.
We essentially now have open borders as nothing has been done to change much of anything. I suspect it will remain this way until the day comes when a very undesirable slides across the border and commits the ultimate atrocity………but until then it will be business as usual.
I Report (-: You Whine )-: mmm, mmmm, mmmmm! Just sayin...
August 20th, 2012
8:26 pm
From the Mizzou News Trib
At least a couple Democrats said they crossed over and voted for Akin in the Republican primary
Obama For America, claims military shouldn’t receive special treatment « The Constitutional Knight
August 20th, 2012
8:26 pm
[...] factual anti obama poster. Like how hes raping the 10th ammendment by suing states (Arizona, Texas, Georgia, Florida, Ohio etc.) about their right to protect their borders and protecting their voting booths. [...]
Dave Francis
August 20th, 2012
8:26 pm
VOTE IN THE TEA PARTY AND STOP THE FINANCIAL CRIPPLING ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION INVASION
Seriously though, are we as Americans expected forever to keep subsidizing pregnant females with 400.000 unborn babies smuggled annually, with hordes of indigent people who slip past borders or the other 40 percent who fly into America never to return home? It is so easy for the both parties to remain unconcerned or staying deliberately ignorant about this silent invasion. Do we as Americans have to further forfeit our lifestyles, as we continually pay a annual bloated taxes to pay for every destitute foreigners who finds their way here? These are unfunded state mandates that keep on growing in hundreds of billions of dollars. Whether its Governor Brewer in Arizona or another state politician elsewhere, this drain on state treasuries must stop?
Turn the tide of an unceasing Socialist experiment played by the Democrats and Liberals, with an incredulous plan that Obama is sure to enact if has a new coronation next year. The Tea Party no longer has the luxury of merely trying to win, it is now “do or die” for our nation. The struggle is between a socialist schedule and the endurance of the Free-Enterprise Republic. Decide now to join us in our fight…or be predestined to live in a country that is shackled by socialism. I’m afraid under Obama’s agenda there is no middle ground. To be perfectly clear, if the Tea Party falters now…if we lay back or slack off then America we know will be gone forever. The TEA PARTY will let free trade succeed, but will sanction countries as China who are manipulating their coinage and cheating us. We cannot trust the Democrats who remain deliberately unconcerned with non-citizens voting. Both parties refuse to enact mandatory E-Verify (H.R. 2885), to expel illegal aliens from businesses, and a Birthright Citizenship law (H.R. 140), that allows a projected 400.000 babies a year who gain citizenship, without a parent holding U.S. citizenship status.
With an unmatched nationwide recession, the Democrats and Republicans have done nothing to reduce the 16 trillion deficits, that this country is now being financially asphyxiated. Join the TEA PARTY and we can win this battle against this Socialist regime and bring America out of this terrible recession. VOTE for MITT ROMNEY as the constitutional TEA PARTY is overhauling the Republican Party and starting to gain a upper hand against the Liberal indoctrination. Read the facts at TEA PARTY DOT ORG and find out who Barack Obama really is? Read details of the unceasing costs on taxpayers by pandering to illegal aliens at NumbersUSA. In conclusion read about the unfettered corruption at Judicial Watch dot org,
Rafe Hollister, suffering through Oblamer's ineptocracy
August 20th, 2012
8:34 pm
No one in the Tea Party or the GOP has ever said vote for the most conservative candidate, if they had Ron Paul, would be the standard bearer.
What they have repeatedly said is vote for the most conservative candidate— that can win.
Akin, based on his past record of inflammatory rhetoric was not that candidate, so the Dems got behind him. It will be really funny, if his ineptitude and ignorance, result in a more competitive candidate that beats the Dem mistake, Claire McCaskill, too liberal for the Show Me State.
cc
August 20th, 2012
8:36 pm
All LEGAL citizens of the United States are to be accorded all freedoms and protections guaranteed by the U. S. Constitution.
Does an illegal immigrant have these rights and protections?
I must do more research but I don’t believe that is the case.
cc
August 20th, 2012
8:37 pm
Of course, the Constitution is not relevant to any argument since the current occupant of the White House has ignored it.
too much
August 20th, 2012
8:44 pm
I report
You have three accounts that Dems crossed over, but you don’t know who they vote for, is that correct?
hahahahahah
Keep trying
I Report (-: You Whine )-: mmm, mmmm, mmmmm! Just sayin...
August 20th, 2012
8:46 pm
It can’t write or read -
At least a couple Democrats said they crossed over and voted for Akin
Centrist
August 20th, 2012
9:05 pm
Posters often pretend that voters from each party don’t cross over to vote for who they perceive to be the weakest opponent. Santorum and Gingrich got a lot of that in open primary states this year, and Hillary Clinton/Barack Obama got it 4 years ago. It is worse when only one party has a competitive primary.
Now this sounds partisan, but it might just be true: http://www.libertynewsonline.com/article_301_32146.php
Tiberius - pulling the tail of the left AND right when needed
August 20th, 2012
9:13 pm
too much, it is frankly inconceivable to believe that Democrats didn’t cross over and vote for someone they thought would be a weaker candidate to go up against their weak incumbent. It happened in Georgia with the Cynthia McKinney race, and it happens all across America in states with open primaries.
I suggest to give up on this “prove it” line of nonsense and simply accept reality.
md
August 20th, 2012
9:15 pm
I’m not a big fan of open primaries, seems to foster dishonesty to me, the opposite of what we should be striving for. I like the states that force the voters to choose prior to voting….R, D, or I. Folks pretty much know how they plan to vote before the primaries, make them declare.
Hillbilly D
August 20th, 2012
9:21 pm
That slippery slope started with amnesty number 1. The US announced to the world that all that came illegally would go unpunished. The world listened, and came in even greater numbers.
And now, we are about to do it again.
That’s pretty much it.
I like the states that force the voters to choose prior to voting….R, D, or I.
I don’t like that because since I’d fall under “I”, I’d never get to participate in any of my local elections, which are now all “R”, after about 150 years of being all “D”. The local elections are done at the end of the party run-offs.
And in Georgia, and probably most other states, the D’s and R’s have seen to it that anybody else has to jump through a hoop, to get on a general election ballot.
md
August 20th, 2012
9:28 pm
HD….I think some of those “have to choose” states don’t allow the I’s to vote in the r or d primaries, but have no restrictions in the general, but don’t quote me on that.
Anybody?
Hillbilly D
August 20th, 2012
9:30 pm
md
I have no idea on that but if I can’t vote in the primary, there are no races in the general election, for my local county offices (and usually most of the state ones), they’d be done before I ever got to vote.
Rafe Hollister, suffering through Oblamer's ineptocracy
August 20th, 2012
9:32 pm
Hillbilly D
I think in states that make you choose, the I’s vote in whichever primary (D or R) they choose. There is no Ind primary, they are on the general election ballot.
Can’t make up my mind on registration as to party, could go either way, but sure is sweet to cross over to vote against an imbecile once and again. I know that this is abused often and is partially to explain how we get some of these candidates like Akin and John McCain.
Rafe Hollister, suffering through Oblamer's ineptocracy
August 20th, 2012
9:34 pm
md
You can’t deny someone the right to vote, I think “for once” ole buddy, you are wrong.
md
August 20th, 2012
9:36 pm
“You can’t deny someone the right to vote, I think “for once” ole buddy, you are wrong.”
They aren’t denying the right, just making folks choose first……..
Hillbilly D
August 20th, 2012
9:39 pm
The party system is another reason I have no use for Alexander Hamilton.
md
August 20th, 2012
9:40 pm
From Wiki:
“Closed primary. People may vote in a party’s primary only if they are registered members of that party prior to election day. Independents cannot participate. Note that because some political parties name themselves independent, the term “non-partisan” often replaces “independent” when referring to those who are not affiliated with a political party. Thirteen states — Connecticut, Delaware, Florida, Kentucky, Maine, Nebraska, Nevada, New Jersey, New Mexico, New York, Oklahoma, Pennsylvania, and South Dakota — have closed primaries.”
Rafe Hollister, suffering through Oblamer's ineptocracy
August 20th, 2012
9:45 pm
md
mea culpa!
joel wischkaemper
August 20th, 2012
9:49 pm
People who call that law racist do not know what that word means. People who suggest the law is something from bigots don’t know what that word means either. It is a law, however, that supports the people of the United States in a battle fascism and business run governments, and the people of the United States. Georgia came out for the people.. and thank you Georgia. The money the bad guys have is enormous and they are going to work us until a President steps up to the plate, and supports the people of our country. Thank you very much Georgia.
Hillbilly D
August 20th, 2012
9:55 pm
Independents cannot participate.
So there you go.
md
August 20th, 2012
10:01 pm
HD…in the primary, but I understand where you are coming from in virtually a 2 party system.
And Rafe, I’ve been wrong on many an occasion, you must have missed those days……
TruthBe
August 20th, 2012
10:05 pm
Jay Bookman is a paid LIAR for the Communist Democrats by George Soros just like Cynthia Tucker was when she was employed by the ajc.
TruthBe
August 20th, 2012
10:07 pm
The Real Racist are the liberal democrats and the corrupt Black politicians here in Atlanta. Reed, Holder, and President Obama included.
Ray
August 20th, 2012
10:34 pm
Kyle, are you there monitoring this?!!!
Fred ™
August 20th, 2012
11:30 pm
What’s to monitor Ray? Although I only read page 2 I don’t see anyone pee’ing in the punch bowl……..
Tarvaris
August 21st, 2012
12:58 am
Every man, woman and child who is in the United States illegally, whether by border jumping, overstaying a VISA, brought here by parents as a child, whatever, is in violation of our federal statutes and must be made to deal with the consequences.
This selective, hit and miss enforcement we have now is making a mockery of our laws. Just like the government slept while our banks became too big to fail, they looked the other way while 11-12 million illegals settled in and now we’re told they’re too many to deport. That’s unacceptable.
hsn
August 21st, 2012
4:36 am
Kyle Wingfield
“11th Circuit upholds most of Georgia’s illegal-immigration law (Updated)”
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State immigration law ?????
Ummm, to all you “Constitution-loving” kon-men, where and when exactly did immigration become the policy of the states?
L'il Aynie
August 21st, 2012
7:24 am
Yak! Yak! Yak! Persecution of illegal immigrants is so yesterday! The current issues are “legitimate rape” and “saving Medicare”. Georgia “conservatives” are still slogging through the 19th century.
iggy
August 21st, 2012
7:24 am
Well all I know is me and the girlfriend needed an 10′x 2′ by 3′ ditch dug and we found many an illegal willing to do the work for quite a very “reasonable” price.
Next on the list is taking the top out of a 40′ tree and Im sure not going up there.
bob
August 21st, 2012
7:29 am
America whos ancestors immigrated “there are no illegal immigrants milking the system” . Really ? And Bill Clinton did hot have sexual relations with that woman, Monica Blewinski.
Tiberius - pulling the tail of the left AND right when needed
August 21st, 2012
8:00 am
“Ummm, to all you “Constitution-loving” kon-men, where and when exactly did immigration become the policy of the states?”
According to the Constitution, hsn, states were SUPPOSED to have primacy over the Federal government.
And in these days where the Federal government is unwilling or unable to carry out the duties it has been assigned since then, it is incumbent upon the states to pick up the slack.
Unless you LIKE anarchy . . .
@@
August 21st, 2012
8:01 am
Folks pretty much know how they plan to vote before the primaries, make them declare.
My husband, much to my dismay, pulled a Republican ballot in the primary. He didn’t get to vote for any of the local (Clayton County) candidates.
I, on the other hand, pulled a Democrat ballot so that I could vote AGAINST Victor Hill for Sheriff. Today is the run-off. My husband…because he pulled a Republican ballot, can’t vote against Hill.
iggy
August 21st, 2012
8:25 am
Victor Hill. Geesh.
Finn McCool (The System isn't Broken; It's Fixed)
August 21st, 2012
8:25 am
Guess who!
What we’re trying to accomplish is to pass the kinds of legislation that when they’ve passed in the past have grown the economy and gotten people back to work. In recessions unemployment lags on well after a recovery has taken place. We’ve got to get the engine of economic growth growing again because we now know, because of recession, we don’t have the revenues that we wanted to, we don’t have the revenues we need … We’ve got to get Americans back to work. Then the surpluses come back, then the jobs come back. That is the constructive answer we’re trying to accomplish here on, yes, a bipartisan basis. I urge members to drop the demagoguery and to pass this bill to help us work together to get the American people back to work and help those people who’ve lost their jobs …What we have been trying to do starting in October and into December and now is to try and get people back to work. The things we’re trying to pass in this bill are the time-tested, proven, bipartisan solutions to get businesses to stop laying off people, to hire people back, and to help those people who have lost their jobs.
Paul Ryan defending W’s stimulus bill in 2002
Hey Cons, I have a bridge in Brooklyn I’d like to sell you…..at a GREAT price!
iggy
August 21st, 2012
8:27 am
Thank you Finn. We now return you to our regularly scheduled programming.
Finn McCool (The System isn't Broken; It's Fixed)
August 21st, 2012
8:27 am
According to the Constitution, hsn, states were SUPPOSED to have primacy over the Federal government.
Unless a state’s elected officials are a bunch of morons. Guess where GA stands?
David R. Boag, DDS
August 21st, 2012
8:29 am
@ Skip 5:49 pm 8/20/12
Unfortunately for me, I can confirm for you that I am, indeed, a middle-aged white man who got pulled over in Riverdale over the weekend, and the first thing the officer did after identifying herself was to ask for my identification.
She was a black female police officer, and I was doing what she caught me doing. Can/should I claim race discrimination? Gender discrimination? Reverse discrimination? Did she pull me over just to get back at the white man? Is this an abomination? Help me understand how this works.
Or maybe–JUST MAYBE–my behavior was the reason I got the ticket.
Finn McCool (The System isn't Broken; It's Fixed)
August 21st, 2012
8:31 am
Read that again?
Then the surpluses come back, then the jobs come back.
Then the surpluses come back, then the jobs come back.
Then the surpluses come back, then the jobs come back.
Wha? What surplus? There was no Clinton surplus???? But….but…..but
iggy
August 21st, 2012
8:34 am
“Or maybe–JUST MAYBE–my behavior was the reason I got the ticket”
No. There has never been a more clear cut case of racism. You should complain to the NAACP.
tiredofIT
August 21st, 2012
8:34 am
If you want to stop illegal immigration then go after the businesses that hire them. Problem is the GOP will never do that, which means, they really don’t have a problem with it. Just another GOP distraction.
tiredofIT
August 21st, 2012
8:36 am
bob
August 21st, 2012
7:29 am
America whos ancestors immigrated “there are no illegal immigrants milking the system” . Really ? And Bill Clinton did hot have sexual relations with that woman, Monica Blewinski.
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And I bet Paul Ryan can’t open an Excel spreadsheet.
Finn McCool (The System isn't Broken; It's Fixed)
August 21st, 2012
8:44 am
tiredofit is right. You shut down those who are willing to pay illegals, the illegals move out. No one in the GOP is willing to do that. O is doing just that and deporting a record number of illegals.
Skip
August 21st, 2012
8:45 am
Dave DDS, I can’t believe so many missed the joke. What a tight azz group hangs here.
iggy
August 21st, 2012
8:47 am
As usual the liberals want to address the symtom and NOT the cause.
*Yawn*
Finn McCool (The System isn't Broken; It's Fixed)
August 21st, 2012
8:57 am
iggy, if you can’t tell a symptom from a cause there are free dictionaries on line.
JamVet
August 21st, 2012
8:58 am
Yep, time for Andy to start rounding up all of the thousands of business owners in Georgia alone who profited handsomely from knowingly using illegal immigrants and send those scofflaws off to the big house.
Then all of the lazy, self-absorbed Republican kids in the suburbs can go and pick onions, tomatoes, bell peppers, etc all summer long for slave wages.
It will prepare them for what is ahead!
Finn McCool (The System isn't Broken; It's Fixed)
August 21st, 2012
9:00 am
Man I LOVE this Ryan pick for VP!
This is going to put the BS artist on full display to the entire nation. When he loses in November all his laundry will have been aired and his status as boy wonder of the Cons will have been exposed as a con job.
iggy
August 21st, 2012
9:05 am
“Then all of the lazy, self-absorbed Republican kids in the suburbs can go and pick onions, tomatoes, bell peppers, etc all summer long for slave wages.’
Not my children. I may hire some illegal immigrants children to pick the maters but my children? NO WAY, Buddy!
iggy
August 21st, 2012
9:08 am
Uh oh…
”
Minnesota lawmaker urged to step aside after rest-stop liaison with 17-year-old boy”
I Report (-: You Whine )-: mmm, mmmm, mmmmm! Just sayin...
August 21st, 2012
9:19 am
E-Verify, stooge.
duh
Rafe Hollister, suffering through Oblamer's ineptocracy
August 21st, 2012
9:46 am
Finn
This fits better
Obama, his status as boy wonder of the Libs will have been exposed as a con job.
Lynnie Gal
August 21st, 2012
10:14 am
TRUTH–wish I could join you in leaving this KKK friendly, white Republican, Voter fraud for brown people/vote suppressing state. But somebody’s gotta stay and try to educate them (i.e. annoy them.) They may never learn anyway, but left to their own devises, many of them will sit in front of their TV’s throwing their own poo at the “liberal” media. Want proof? Listen to those who defend Aiken’s comments–then tell me they’re not throwing their own poo.
md
August 21st, 2012
10:31 am
Poo? I’d say that is taking the comments of an isolated idiot in a State race and trying to spread it around on a national scale……that would be slinging poo………..
Hillbilly D
August 21st, 2012
10:34 am
If you want to stop illegal immigration then go after the businesses that hire them.
That’s the key to it and could’ve been done a long time ago. Both parties are against that, though, because the Democrats see them as future votes and the Republicans see them as cheap labor. So a little wink, wink, nudge, nudge and life goes on, same as it ever was.
Finn McCool (The System isn't Broken; It's Fixed)
August 21st, 2012
10:42 am
Democrats see them as future votes
LOL. Hardly. It’s all about jobs. Cut the immigrant pool and wages go up in most industries. But this country can’t function without that vast pool of cheap, effective labor.
Tell Chip and Buffy they will need to wash dishes and cook at my favorite restaurant so it won’t go out of business…….good luck with that.
Thulsa Doom
August 21st, 2012
10:45 am
“TRUTH–wish I could join you in leaving this KKK friendly, white Republican, Voter fraud for brown people/vote suppressing state. But somebody’s gotta stay and try to educate them”
Lynnie Gal,
Sure you can leave if you really want to. If not maybe the gubment can come up with some type of special program to pay for your departure. I would hate for you to have to pay for it all on your own. But if you can then rest assured- Delta is ready when you are.
Thulsa Doom
August 21st, 2012
10:47 am
“But this country can’t function without that vast pool of cheap, effective labor.”
Makes you wonder how the country functioned the first 200 very successful years of its existence to become the world’s greatest economic power without that vast pool of cheap, effective labor that Finn speaks of.
md
August 21st, 2012
10:56 am
“Cut the immigrant pool and wages go up in most industries. But this country can’t function without that vast pool of cheap, effective labor.”
In the real world…….the US labor rate is xxx times that of many other countries around the globe, so there will be many industries in the new global economy in which we just can not be competitive in relation to price…..that’s just fact.
Aint that a sham
August 21st, 2012
11:04 am
Thulsa
How about real wages?
Aint that a sham
August 21st, 2012
11:05 am
Thulsa
You are aware that GDP can go up, which would indicate an increase in per capita, but in reality not an increase in wages for the average person, right?
David R. Boag, DDS
August 21st, 2012
11:47 am
@Skip 8:45
One thing about blogging: no non-verbal communication to help. Thats’s what smileys are for. I don’t know you yet, so how is one supposed to know?
Kent Clark
August 21st, 2012
2:55 pm
ASIA FOR THE ASIANS, AFRICA FOR THE AFRICANS, WHITE COUNTRIES FOR EVERYBODY!
Everybody says there is this RACE problem. Everybody says this RACE problem will be solved when the third world pours into EVERY white country and ONLY into white countries.
The Netherlands and Belgium are just as crowded as Japan or Taiwan, but nobody says Japan or Taiwan will solve this RACE problem by bringing in millions of third worlders and quote assimilating unquote with them.
Everybody says the final solution to this RACE problem is for EVERY white country and ONLY white countries to “assimilate,” i.e., intermarry, with all those non-whites.
What if I said there was this RACE problem and this RACE problem would be solved only if hundreds of millions of non-blacks were brought into EVERY black country and ONLY into black countries?
How long would it take anyone to realize I’m not talking about a RACE problem. I am talking about the final solution to the BLACK problem?
And how long would it take any sane black man to notice this and what kind of psycho black man wouldn’t object to this?
But if I tell that obvious truth about the ongoing program of genocide against my race, the white race, Liberals and respectable conservatives agree that I am a naziwhowantstokillsixmillionjews.
They say they are anti-racist. What they are is anti-white.
Anti-racist is a code word for anti-white.
Michael H. Smith
August 21st, 2012
4:25 pm
Hilarious how the issue of law becomes less than a mere footnote whenever illegal immigration is brought to the public fore in discussions.
Then again, when we have a President who took an oath to UPHOLD ALL THE LAWS only to declare he would NOT ENFORCE CERTAIN LAWS that he doesn’t like and cannot change, what else can anyone expect other than a pathetic ethnocentric sideshow for the law hating socialist liberals bigots to focus in on as the main topic.
It will be a hard task to restore a Republican form of government from out of this Socialist Democracy that has been forced on us by those who operated outside of the confines of the Constitution to rob us of our founder’s Republic, Kyle.
Skip
August 21st, 2012
4:27 pm
Dr. Dave, if you’re still around, I see your point.
TruthBe
August 21st, 2012
9:57 pm
Finn McCool (The System isn’t Broken; It’s Fixed)
August 21st, 2012
9:00 am
Man I LOVE this Ryan pick for VP!
Yeah Finn McFool, Like Obama’s Gay Lifestyles. How about Obama’s cheating on Michelle for years having affairs with other married and single Gay Men. For example: Just to name some of his gay Lovers. Larry Sinclair, Donald Young, Reggie Love, Arther Davis, Bill Frist, Deval Patrick, and Rahm Emanuel. How about his “Life Time Membership in the Chicago Gay Men’s Bathhouse called Mans Country. How about his illegal drug use? (Cocaine, Pot, pills) Not to mention his corrupt illegal “Pay to Play” political schemes. How about the billions of dollars his administration has given away to America’s enemies the Muslim Brotherhood, Hamas, Hezbullah, and the PLO.
This is going to put the BS artist on full display to the entire nation. When Obama loses in November all his dirty laundry will have been aired and his status as boy wonder of the Democrats (aka:Communist) will have been exposed as a con job fake president. Oh! by the way did you know that Obama is our first Black President as well as our first COMMUNIST President.
Dave Francis
August 21st, 2012
10:32 pm
Illegal immigration is without exception a major issue during the presidential election. Of whether it’s the incessant harassment by Eric Holder in the Justice Department pressing the U.S. courts to inhibit local police from questioning people about their immigration status, after some traffic law broken? Or another stain on the Obama administration; trying to gain the upper hand politically, by obstructing states from implementing picture voter ID laws to eradicate voter fraud? The public need to make the biggest decision for the future of this nation? The wrong direction of negative Socialism, that is a far cry from the edicts of the U.S. Constitution; such as an ever propagation of government interference in our daily lives, saturating free business enterprise that built this country or a ever enveloping dark shadow of government entitlement programs. Shamefully, I must say that either the Democrats or Republicans are going to be the savior of all Americas ills, as either party owes favors to commercial entities, unions or the affluent. Until this country elections are not beholden to k street lobbyists and other entities, but only by public financing, nothing will change?
Washington is full of corruption and rotted to the core, except for a few idealistic politicians that have very little chance of turning the tables on the majority influence. November will be a paramount turning point in our nation’s history. We can follow either party’s agenda or alter our future, by voting into the Senate and House of Representatives TEA PARTY opponents. Under another four years of President Obama millions of illegal aliens already settled here will gain amnesty, while under MITT ROMNEY this may not happen. However, to stop bleeding billions of more dollars in adverse policies, the absorbed TEA PARTY leaders will have the voting influence in Congress to halt any new mass amnesties, no path to citizenship.
In fact the Republicans backed strongly by TEA PARTY members assimilated into the GOP, will insist on passing the “LEGAL WORKFORCE ACT” bring to an abrupt end to businesses hiring illegal workers over citizens and green card holders. After passage the punishment will be harsh upon the culprit-fines, asset loss and even prison. Equal or even more so, is to stop the pregnant women who assume by entering America, that the gullible U.S. taxpayer will pay their hospital fees, education for their children and other programs unavailable to legal residents. Sitting in inaction is the BIRTHRIGHT CITIZENSHIP BILL that needs to be frantically pass as passage will only no longer permit children to acquire citizenship, without one parent already a U.S. citizenship or attained citizenship through military service. As a political ploy in gaining extra votes, Obama mob have rescinded any need of citizenship to collect food stamps.
Then we have the disgusting consternation of the Sen. Harry Reid (D-NV) voting down a bill of halting $5. Billion dollars being fraudulently appropriated from taxpayers, by the continuation of child tax reimbursement. Our hard earned money going through incompetence of the IRS and repeating this same situation for years as even going to fictitious children in other countries. Everything this government is applying is for political recognition in November; to accumulate more votes from legal and illegal registrations. This is an open house for uncompensated public assistance and a desperate need to undermine our elections. Obama’s Socialist agenda has caused massive disruptions in industry, the rising costs of oil, natural gas and taking away the livelihood of hundreds of thousands of coal miners.
Even as I write this blog, the price of gasoline at the pump is rising, when this government should release their grasp on energy permits and allow unfettered drilling, discovery of new regions to search for our future needs. In this nation we have an abundance of petroleum to last us a hundred years or longer, so we do not need to be dictated to by foreign potentates or Obama’s environmental friends. Gas should be a $1.49 as it was under George Bush and not escalating in price during a desperate need to $4.29 and up? If you are expecting a different route under either party you are grossly mistaken, but when heavily influenced by the TEA PARTY, the Conservative TEA PARTY, then change to this country could be significant. Changes such as a fair and equitable tax code, not one that has been formulated just for the wealthy or other participants. Everybody pays their fair share, including the “Freeloaders” who live like parasites off the host taxpayer.
No more compromise for people who steal into the United States, or slip right past Customs and Immigration at any entry port, including arriving on international flights posing as a tourist or other visitor. Entry into the U.S. has no real penalty as its been seen as a civil infraction, unlike countries as Mexico where it is a Felony and every person who flies in, or crosses from its Southern or Northern border is tracked. No wonder this country has an estimated 20 million plus over stays and illegal aliens, when once you are here there is no true prosecution, unless you have a criminal record. No wonder when state, county and city management allow ordinances that consign the notorious label of Sanctuary cities and states as California, Nevada. It seems under Obama USICS service that these city policies have been allowed to thrive spreading nationwide, with little or no convictions of the officials who enacting these laws.
THE PEOPLE SHOULD AVOID ANY MORE INACTION BY EITHER PARTY BY JOINING THE REVOLUTIONARY TEA PARTY. NO MORE QUID PRO QUO ( Emptying your pockets to pay somebody off) In conclusion, all American citizens and residents should absorb the evidence against President Obama as his Socialist-Marxist consultants point our country towards a country of federal benefits, without having to work for a living but a dependence on government. This is fine for the “freeloaders” but not for honest people, who want to rise in their jobs and grasp the American dream for risk and hard work. Also learn and judge whether Obama is truly a U.S. citizen or a conspiracy of the far left? I offer no opinion except that I understand the consequences should this be true. I assume nothing, but leave it to your own decisions. Investigate it more at TEA PARTY DOT ORG.