Ex-Democrat Artur Davis to speak at GOP national convention

Is paul ryan going to talk at the convention, and tell us about all of his executive experience?

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Nice, they have a black Republican. Of course they’ll cart him out at the convention, to prove what a big tent the GOP has….

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Being a perceived “Budget Hawk,” will Paul Ryan make any statements at the Convention about the National Weather Service & Social Security Administrations buying hundreds of thousands of rounds of “cop killer” bullets with OUR money or the debacle of waste and ineptitude known as the Department of Homeland “Security” and pedophile TSA airport screeners?

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Would anybody else here like to see Chris Matthews or Keith Olberman on the LOSING END of a pistol duel with Zell Miller?

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Must be angry that Obama didn’t give him a spot in his administration. Obama probably saw him as a sell-out.

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I say Mitt is more Milquetoast than toast.

But yeah, he’s got a snowball’s chance of winning the election. Please quote me on that one. I’ll own up to it after election day.

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“Nice, they have a black Republican. Of course they’ll cart him out at the convention, to prove what a big tent the GOP has….”

10,000 or 1 million black Republicans would make no difference. Any black republican is considered a traitor to the liberals or considered to be just plain stupid.

Your argument is baseless and you language proves my point.

NEXT!!

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Ah … another convert called to testify! Testify brother!

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“Georgia’s unemployment rate jumped to 9.3 percent in July from 9 percent in June, the state labor department said Thursday.”

I hope Davis hammers home that this administration has not helped employment whatsoever.

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What a big bunch of children who act like dopes

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“We’re going around the country, talking about, ‘How do we put people back to work? How do we improve our schools? How do we make sure that we’re producing American energy? How do we lower our debt in a responsible way?’ And I don’t think you or anybody who’s been watching the campaign would say that in any way we have tried to divide the country”. Barack Obama

That’s the problem. This campaign has gone on since 2009, and it has been all talk and no action.

He may not have tried to divide the country, but he has. Unintended consequences have the same impact as intended ones….and to deny that they have occurred shows just how out of touch Obama is.

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As a counter to Artru Davis, perhaps the Dems could have Harry Bellafonte speak at the liberal convention.

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Auntie C,

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If you’re looking for excitement and/or unless you’re manuevering for some free Government Rascal/Scooter/Wheelchair or Defense contracts …………then ditch the free-government-cheese/viagara-hopped-up RNC convention.
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The future lies with ………………………………….. P.A.U.L. Festival
People Awakening and Uniting for Liberty
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Don’t be frightened Wingfeild.

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The former congressman recalled Obama’s campaign pledges to rein in government spending and lessen the country’s dependence on credit. “Those were powerful sounding, tough words from a Democratic candidate in 2007 and 2008 who was trying, frankly, to reach out to the center,” Davis said. “Well, I think we all know, four years later, candidate Obama has been a very different person than President Obama.”

Davis pointed to the Clinton administration as an example of better times, recalling a “Democratic president who aggressively defended all values of his party, but still managed to find a way to reach across the aisle to Republicans.” Clinton’s leadership, he said, helped “bring the Democratic Party back to a place of believing in fiscal responsibility. That spirit, he said, has diminished with Obama at the helm. Many Democrats who cared about this issue, he said, either lost their re-election bids or simply decided to leave Congress.

When asked by RCP about the decline of the Blue Dogs, the coalition of moderate Democrats which saw half its members defeated in the 2010 midterms, Davis suggested the president was to blame: “They can’t really state their opinions on issues; if they do they aren’t taken terribly seriously. They are Blue Dogs without a bark or a bite.” Presidents, he noted, “drive politics.”–RCP

Couldn’t have said it better myself.

Artur Davis, UNCHAINED!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Joe Biden is fine ,but the G.O.P. justed picked another Sarrah Palin . Lol. With no forein policy creditials . Guess well just throw the bullets at the enemy . The G.O.P. is stuck with two dummies .

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Take a good look at the states in red folks before you speak.

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Artur Davis is gonna go DOWN with the rest of the HYPOCRITICAL

CONS (Myth Robme and Ryan Shame).

Any one with a name like ARTUR what can you expect?

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Mitt Romney couldn’t. win a 5 year olders spelling B . He come from a long tradition of political loosers .

Am I the only one seeing the irony in that?

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No, Hillbilly D, you’re not!

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Gee, regressives trotting out a black “ex” Democrat to show how inclusive they are. Smells like Palin redux.

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Everette. Finn, is that you?

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Everette

August 16th, 2012
11:09 am
Joe Biden is fine ,but the G.O.P. justed picked another Sarrah Palin . Lol. With no forein policy creditials . Guess well just throw the bullets at the enemy . The G.O.P. is stuck with two dummies .

Well the GOP dummies will look like Einstein compared to the clueless dems. One question? Will the dems be breaking out their propellor beanies to make them at least look smarter?

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Pual Rayan can’t brown nose his way into the white house . Yes he’s a idiot . Yes he don’t abortion even in cases of incest and rape . Yes he will throw granny over a cliff with his stupid budget that both him and Romney can’t get their story straight . No forein policy credentials as if 911 never happened . McCain saw Romneys tax returns and picked Palin . Where’s Liz Channey . Yes y’all are stuck with another Sarrah Palin . LMAO !

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Yep, cue the shrieks of “Oreo” and “Uncle Tom” from the libs.

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UnderPaul Ryans budget you won’t retire until you’re. 125 years old .

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Gosh, funny the only folks throwing out epithets about the guy are conservatives….”claiming” it’s what liberals will do. Your own bias is showing.

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“UnderPaul Ryans budget you won’t retire until you’re. 125 years old .”

Gee, I hadn’t seen THAT DNC talking point, Everette.

Care to cite the source of that statement?

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I’m sorry, what was Jon Huntsman total vote count in the Republican primary before his campaign crashed and burned? Or did get any votes? I can’t seem to remember.

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I’m sorry did Artur Davis win his last election? I can’t remember.

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A Blue Dog Democrat from Alabama now supports the GOP . . . say it isn’t so . . . yawn. Next you’ll be telling us Joe Lieberman is going too

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At least my beliefs and opinions never change.

I’ve seen it posted on here many times that people changing their opinions is a sign of growth and open-mindedness. You can’t have it both ways.

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Strange that the most bigoted comments come from the liberals on this blog.

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Ann Coulter: Our Blacks Are Better Than Their Blacks……

And they live better.

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“Who are you the spell check king ? I’m. driving”

Home from school riding around the front yard on your Big Wheel?

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Hey Everette. If you’re driving and texting, you’re not only breaking the law . . .

. . . but you’re an idiot for endangering others.

Is commenting on Kyle’s blog really worth putting other lives in jeopardy?

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Isn’t texting and driving illegal in Georgia?

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I have to congratulate the Republicans. They finally found a black man willing to speak at their convention so they can showcase their diverse (ahem) schedule of speakers. As the cameras pan across the GOP audience–you know, those guys who cheered during the GOP debates when, given a scenario about a young man without insurance dying of a brain tumor. yelled LET HIM DIE!! (The crowd roars)–if you find a black person or hispanic among that crowd of angry white men (&a few women) you can just about count them on one hand. The GOP has defined itself as the party of wealthy white men (and their wives.) Who else supports them?

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“The GOP has defined itself as the party of wealthy white men (and their wives.) Who else supports them?”

Refusing to work, not becoming wealthy and living off the govt is, of course, your choice.

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Lynnie Gal
when, given a scenario about a young man without insurance dying of a brain tumor. yelled LET HIM DIE!! (

Where did you read that, Jet Magazine? Can you post a link?

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@Hillbilly D

August 16th, 2012
11:46 am
At least my beliefs and opinions never change.

I’ve seen it posted on here many times that people changing their opinions is a sign of growth and open-mindedness. You can’t have it both ways
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I BELIEVE in God

My FAMILY comes first

I AM a LIBERAL for life

I AM compassionate and kind

I BELIEVE that you reap what you sow

I BELIEVE in KARMA

I DO unto others …………..

SOME THINGS NEVER CHANGE

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Many do that. Ive known a plenty who consider being a Waffle House waitress a good career move. Ive known a plenty who would rather sell drugs, steal from Ingles, live at the Motel 6, than get a job.

Let the lazy starve.

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Hillbilly

The people in the south fled from the Democrat party, so the pols had to follow. When Al Gore is ranting about closing the coal mine in your town, if you are a pol, you don’t want to be anywhere near him. When Obama is boasting that he hopes to raise your electric bill, you run the other direction. Algore, Kerry, Obama, Reed, and Pelosi were not something a southern pol wanted to be closely associated with.

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Well, it sounds like to me Artur Davis is a man whose vote goes to the preson he thinks can best handle the job. He voted for Obama last time (I believe) and sees how that went. So now he wants something better.

I think Davis may be typical of many black voters who recognize failure when they see it and will not vote again for Obama. Romney is obviously our best hope for all people. . Astute voters are well aware of that.

That certainly

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That changed when Lyndon Johnson (D) signed the civil rights bill

The racist South went from being Democrat to Republican real quick.

But that’s where you’re wrong. The change in my area took place in the early 1990’s.

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I love when folks trot out the tired line that people vote Dem because they don’t want to work.

Silliness. A strange correlation, folks with advanced education tend to be liberal. Do all of us educated liberals, many with advanced degrees, really refuse to work??

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Lyndon Johnson mired blacks in poverty and broke up their families and for this, he’s a liberal icon.

You know what I mean?

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Mismanagement = perfect description of the Obama administration. In the private sector mismanagement gets you fired.

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But that’s where you’re wrong. The change in my area took place in the early 1990’s.

It was happening before that.

The “Solid South” took awhile to change.

Johnson told an aide, “We have lost the South for a generation”, anticipating a coming backlash from Southern whites against Johnson’s Democratic Party. Moreover, Richard Nixon politically counterattacked with the Southern Strategy where it would “secure” votes for the Republican Party by grabbing the advocates of segregation as well as most of the Southern Democrats.

Johnson was right. The conversion of the South from almost exclusively Democrat to almost exclusively Republican started when he put down that pen.

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About those Waffle House employees.

Upper management is required to work the grills periodically so as not to lose sight of what those who work under them do.

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The more the electorate learns about Mitt, the more important are his surrogates…

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Such an entertaining exercise to see so many detailed attacks and claimed consequences of the Ryan Budget from Democrats who have not proposed their own!

Same for Democrats more interested in what Romney did or does with his money than the untold billions of ours PrezBO has wasted on Stima-Spendu-lus & the scam that is “Green Energy”.

Only to be preceded or followed by Democrats touting the inexperience of Ryan as an executive when the only executive experience for either PrezBO or “Breaking Chains” Biden is as abject executive failures.

Truth, History, and Common Sense refute Liberalism. Freedom and Opportunity work every time they are tried; they work when you do!

-SD

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Your name is too long to write (hopefully that don’t get me banned)

My family has only lived in this area for a little over 200 years, so I guess you know the area better than I do.

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I’ll take fear and pestilence over hope and change.

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Cheesy:

He also signed the Civil Rights bill giving them the right to eat in the same restaurant or use the same bathroom as you.

Yes, he did.

“…we‘ve got to give them a little something, just enough to quiet them down, not enough to make a difference.”–LBJ

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You will take what you get, and so will I.

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Keep rearranging those deck chairs, Cons.

Yawn

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Yeah, and look how well that 2004 convention turned out for Zell — and of course, now he tells everyone that he didn’t write any of what he said and was just “reading the teleprompter!” Bunch of losers in the GOP these days…

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The redder the county (across the country) the more it relies on federal aid.

http://taxfoundation.org/

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The only thing either party really believes in is staying in power. The sooner folks figure that out, the better off they’ll be.

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I’m a 12th generation Southerner and a 7th generation Georgian. I understand the region.

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The redder the state the lower it ranks in education.

There are a whole lot more important things, than political persuasion, that bring about that result, Mr. Cheesy.

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This is certainly a man for the century (the 18th one)

According to our sitting VP, we’re living in the 20th century.

And he said it with such enthusiasm.

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hollister @1225:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PepQF7G-It0 If the link doesn’t work, simply use google to find “let him die,” there’s only about a 1000 links to this.

You must have slept through this part. That’s ok tho, it shows yo’re taking your meds. Maybe someday you’ll wake up and become a progressive.

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@Hillbilly D

August 16th, 2012
12:34 pm
I’m a 12th generation Southerner and a 7th generation Georgian. I understand the region.

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Are you related to Honey Boo Boo from McIntyre?

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tiberius–so sorry I hurt your feelings by negative comments on Ayn Rand. She is obviously the one upon whom you also base your economic analysis. Were you 15 or were you 16 when Rand first transformed your thinking? Or are you now 15 or 16?

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You mad at the gov’t GOP supporters might try a doctor and some meds, being angry your adult life seem like a waste. Enjoy life, America has great things to offer for the open minded.

But do not get too dependent on the meds, that would not be good for you.

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Auntie, thanks for the link, I never heard that said, but the streaming was not good, so I will take your word. Don’t know how you can attribute that to a GOP fan, I couldn’t see the person. He may have been a Paulista or he may have been a protester, taunting Paul. I don’t think I would miss much sleep over it. Romney is not going to put anyone back in chains, even if ole Joe has that fantasy.

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@Hillbilly D

August 16th, 2012
12:34 pm
I’m a 12th generation Southerner and a 7th generation Georgian. I understand the region.

I really liked your banjo scene in “Deliverance.”

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Did Kyle just curse!

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Rafe Hollister, suffering through Oblamer’s ineptocracy
August 16th, 2012
11:59 am
Where did you read that, Jet Magazine? Can you post a link?

http://www.rawstory.com/rawreplay/2011/09/tea-party-audience-cheers-letting-the-uninsured-die/

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Did Kyle just curse!

I YIKED IT!!!!!!!!

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Tealiban

I can’t keep this straight, your post says tea-party-audience, Auntie says GOP debate, screen I saw was Ron Paul speaking on CNN. An anonymous loud mouth obviously was present at this gathering, I get it, so what’s the point?

Do you stand behind everything that Biden says or how his goofy crowd reacts? He got many cheers and hoots and hollers when he fantasied that Romney was going to put “yall back in chains”.

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@Kyle…O’ dear now you sound like the climate change deniers and their pitiful list of scientists.

According to the US Bureau of Labor there are 15,400 economists in the US. That means Mittens has the unqualified support of 2.6% of them.

Sorry but I am not impressed.

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ObamaCare listed as an accomplishment…LOL!!

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Sorry but I am not impressed.

That you McKayla?

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Thanks for the confirmation, schn@@rt.

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iggy August 16th, 2012 1:11 pm ObamaCare listed as an accomplishment…LOL!!

Did you laugh as hard at romneycare. Did you laugh as hard when the Heritage Foundation and the rest of the repub establishment were touting it? Or is it only funny when a demo administration passes it? you repubs have a peculiar sense of humor, or is it just hypocrisy?

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Getting a Nobel prize also doesn’t mean that you ever accomplished anything either.

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Rafe at 121 – not true in the least.

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What would you do with a college degree in Our Kan Saw?

Oh yeah, rape trailer park trash, I forgot.

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“Paul freakin’ Krugman”

????

Perhaps you could devote a column itemizing the reasons Krugman’s opinion on economic matters shouldn’t be respected.

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SlickRick, I will not even get into Obama’s Nobel, but howabout Nosar Arafat getting a “Peace” prize. He was a real “peacemaker” for sure!

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Perhaps you could devote a column itemizing the reasons Krugman’s opinion on economic matters shouldn’t be respected.

No column necessary, one word sums up his economic accuracy………

OBAMA!

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An economist’s guess is liable to be as good as anybody else’s.-Will Rogers

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RW:

Errr…the contest was to pick both VP choices and I had Palin so I think I win any tiebreaker.

I’m always willing to share my winnings with YOU, RW.

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I’m always amused by the Ayn Rand ranters.

Ayn Rand’s philosophy was a compilation of Aristotle’s and Thomas Acquinas’ absent the religious tenets.

She has a lot in common with liberals.

For instance:

What was Ayn Rand’s view on abortion?
Excerpt from “Of Living Death” in The Objectivist, October 1968:

An embryo has no rights. Rights do not pertain to a potential, only to an actual being. A child cannot acquire any rights until it is born. The living take precedence over the not-yet-living (or the unborn).

Abortion is a moral right—which should be left to the sole discretion of the woman involved; morally, nothing other than her wish in the matter is to be considered. Who can conceivably have the right to dictate to her what disposition she is to make of the functions of her own body?”

From a 1964 interview in Playboy magazine:

Playboy:
Has no religion, in your estimation, ever offered anything of constructive value to human life?

Rand:
Qua religion, no—in the sense of blind belief, belief unsupported by, or contrary to, the facts of reality and the conclusions of reason. Faith, as such, is extremely detrimental to human life: it is the negation of reason. But you must remember that religion is an early form of philosophy, that the first attempts to explain the universe, to give a coherent frame of reference to man’s life and a code of moral values, were made by religion, before men graduated or developed enough to have philosophy.

Ayn Rand was “A Riddle Wrapped in a Mystery Inside an Enigma”

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Oh Oh, Davis will be another Black to be targeted by an enraged left wing who have zero tolerance for Black conservatives and probably in his case even worse because he’s a defector.

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I honestly don’t think that Davis’ appearance is going to matter much even though it is a nice coup for the convention. He’s just not that much of a household name. I think it’s far more significant that Christie is the keynote speaker; never doubt the impact of that. Obama, after all, was the 2004 Democratic one. I also believe there’s it’s far more significant that Bush the Second isn’t attending and Palin is being given a very wide berth. And neither are EVER mentioned on the campaign trail. Talk about skeletons in the closet.

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Hillbilly:

I’ve got no bone to pick with Joe. His blatant pandering gets on my nerves.

I was watching Giuliani’s critique of Joe. “He’s just not that bright…never has been”…

something along those lines.

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“Maybe the hysteria of the Cynthia Tucker days are truly behind us.”

Yet your hysteria still remain

Go figure

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Kyle, I read your link to Romney Campaign press release re economists. I agree with Slick Rick on most of his points about this. And I also read some press reports when economists’ statement was first released. As I recall, their endorsement of Romney’s very general proposals was not unequivocal. Now, Ryan’s proposals are in black and white in the budget bill that passed the House, but the 400 you mention did not seem to be commenting on that and Romney has been both for and against many of its provisions. Clarification please. Anyway, I would be willing to read and consider full text of their statement if you care to post a link. Yes, since I am not economist, I do give a lot of weight to credentials but I also consider their analyses on the merits. I have read Krugman, Stigler and Stockman’s analyses (not all but many) and I have on occasion read economic theories of Feldman. Laffer and Graham. Laffer and Graham in particular are just right-wing hacks. Most of the others are names I don’t recognize. I understand your disagreement with Krugman but did not previously appreciate the depth of your dislike. Perhaps, it is because he is a “turncoat” from the time he spent as a staffer for the Council of Economic Advisers under Reagan? Kyle, he has been consistent from the git-go since at least 2008, often in disagreement with Obama and almost always right in his predictions. His position now is that he simply sees Obama’s proposals as far superior to Romney and Ryan’s. Further, we tried Laffer’s supply side nonsense under W and see where it got us in 2008? We also were supply side in the 19th century. I suppose you could argue that was a glorious time but I doubt many Americans would want to return. Not many people really want to work their butts off waiting for a fair piece of the pie to trickle down.

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@@ 158: I was watching Giuliani’s critique of Joe. “He’s just not that bright…never has been”…something along those lines.

That can’t be an exact quote, because giuilani would have said something like “911 he’s just not 911 that bright 911, 911, never has been 911 911.”

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del @ 1:50

“Oh Oh, Davis will be another Black to be targeted by an enraged left wing….

He’s just thankful it’s the left wing that’s enraged. Being from Alabama, he’s seen what the enraged white/right wing comprising the repub party does to African Americans.

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“It is great to be here in North Canton, or as Joe Biden might say, it’s great to be here in Nevada,” Paul Ryan said as he opened an address at Walsh University in North Cantor, Ohio.

Hairplugs, the gift that keeps on giving.

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Kyle, I read your link to the one example you proffered Slick Rick and I suggest you read Krugman’s recent articles more carefully. What he said in 2003 when there had not yet been the 2007-8 financial meltdown is not all inconsistent with what he recommends now. They are totally different financial circumstances that call for different policies. Keynesian policies are meant to jump-start an economy that his hit rough times or become deflationary as in the Depression and in this Recession. They have worked historically but they are not meant to be permanent. Krugman also recognizes that we need a long-term program to bring our deficits under control beginning after we have had our jump-start. Even Romney has occasionally alluded to the fact that it would be unwise to effect massive budget cuts while we are in a Recession.

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Kyle removed Auntie’s unprovoked assault on Hillbilly.

Kewl!

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@I Report (-: You Whine )-: mmm, mmmm, mmmmm! Just sayin…

August 16th, 2012
2:15 pm
“It is great to be here in North Canton, or as Joe Biden might say, it’s great to be here in Nevada,” Paul Ryan said as he opened an address at Walsh University in North Cantor, Ohio.

Hairplugs, the gift that keeps on giving.

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The P90X regimen still WON’T HELP PAUL RYAN’S Howdy Doody mug.

He might have a great body, but a bad mug.

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August 16th, 2012
2:24 pm
House slave(d):

GET YOUR FACTS STRAIGHT

Some things aren’t as simple as you.

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WHAT is so COMPLICATED about Paul Ryan being an avowed fan of Ayn Rand?

Huh?

Huh?

Huh?

IT AIN’T ROCKET SCIENCE GENIUS.

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You recall that panel or the channel.

I’m sure it can be verified via youtube

Thanks

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Kyle removed Auntie’s unprovoked assault on Hillbilly. Kewl!

You mean if I cry and mewl like a little kitten,the way you conservatives do, kyle will remove things like ‘you libtards,’ ‘left wing parasites,’ et al that you wingers throw out here everyday. Great, because those kinds of things really really make me sad.

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Is House Slave the best liberals have to offer here?

Reminds me of Fred.

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He asked the audience how many were Canadians. Hands went up. He then asked how many were dissatisfied with their healthcare. The same number of hands went up.

One-fourth of American respondents are either “very” or “somewhat” satisfied with “the availability of affordable healthcare in the nation,” (6% very satisfied and 19% somewhat satisfied). This level of satisfaction is significantly lower than in Canada, where 57% are satisfied with the availability of affordable healthcare, including 16% who are very satisfied. Roughly 4 in 10 Britons are satisfied (43%), but only 7% say they are very satisfied (similar to the percentage very satisfied in the United States).

Care to revise your statement ?

On the whole Canadians are MUCH MUCH happier with their system.

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http://www.gallup.com/poll/8056/healthcare-system-ratings-us-great-britain-canada.aspx

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Biden reminds me of Uncle Fester. All he needs is a light bulb in his mouth and WALLAH!

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On the whole Canadians are MUCH MUCH happier with their system.

Granted it’s a small sample size but from the Canadians that I know personally, that seems to be the case. It’s especially true of Canadians I know who live here, they generally view the way we do things in healthcare as “crazy” (their own words).

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HillBilly D

How does that translate into life span, etc?

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The whole ” Then why do they come here for healthcare ” is a myth as well.

In fact it works in the opposite. Many people who live along the border get married. Not out of love but so that one or the other can gain Canadian citizenship.

This way they can get care to fight cancer or something similar and not have to go bankrupt in the process as they would in the States.

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Hillybilly D

Apologize for the cloudy question. Should have said life expectancy not life span.

While health care is one of many variables that can attribute to life expectancy, it surely plays a huge part, especially on the macro level.

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Cheesy:

I wasn’t making a statement about Canadian healthcare. I was making a statement about Krugman’s experience with a Canadian audience.

Since we’re offering up surveys, the Kaiser Family Foundation did one of their own in 2009.

What did they find? 89% of Americans are satisfied with the healthcare THEY receive. Even 70% of uninsured Americans were either satisfied or very satisfied with THEIR healthcare.

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Thanks for the clarification Clarence Darrow. So now I know that when one of you cons reply to one of my posts and says “you libtards,” or “you parasite,” I can cry and whimper to kyle to remove it, but if it is just generic, then I have no case.

Also regarding sexual innuendo, I can mewl about any comments mentioning a certain Ms Lewinsky, and the ever vigilant kyle will promptly remove them? Can I count on that Clarence? Will you handle my complaint for me if he doesn’t?

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Belly Laughs

I don’t know what the life expectancy of a Canadian compared to some in the States is, I’d suspect they’d be close to the same. I think your point is better healthcare means longer life and I think that’s probably true. I’ve known people who put things off because they didn’t have insurance or insurance wouldn’t pay. That can’t be helpful.

Back when Bob Barr had his column on here, he wrote a column about Canadians coming to the U.S. for health care. He pointed to that as a flaw in their system but by his own numbers, it was 19,000+ Canadians, for whatever year he was using. Out of 30 million Canadians, that’s about .06% of the population. I don’t know but there might be that many Americans going elsewhere, on a percentage basis.

All I know is that having dealt with our health care system, weekly and sometimes even daily for the past nearly 5 years, it’s a mess. It doesn’t work for doctors, it doesn’t work for patients, or anybody else that I can see.

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And actually what Krugman was really saying in that 2003 piece to which your piece linked is that he was going with a fixed-rate mortgage to hedge against volatile interest rates due to misguided fiscal and political policies.

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HillBilly D

Thanks for the exchange. We can and should be doing better as a nation.

Health care bill is a step in the right direction, but seems to have many many flaws. I doubt it is going away, so it would behoove DC to start working on improvements before we get too far down the road.

Republicans had the Congress and WH and did very little. Democrats took over and gave us a flawed bill, while Republicans screamed we have a plan.

Where was it when they had the opportunity to have more impact?

DC needs to get its act in order. People thinking one party or the other has all the answers are going to continue to be disappointed. We need bipartisan ideas instead of the bipartisan crying we get the vast majority of time.

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Kyle

I think inflation rates are going up and it really will not matter who is in office.

They have been artificially kept low for several years now.

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I think inflation rates are going up

You and I both.

Bernanke’s been like the Little Dutch Boy with his finger in the dam.

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Health care bill is a step in the right direction, but seems to have many many flaws.

I’d have to disagree on the step in the right direction part. I think the only people who will benefit from the healthcare bill is the insurance industry. The bill does nothing, that I can see, to control rising cost, which is the real problem.

I think Obama mishandled this badly and squandered an opportunity. Instead of getting out front and leading and selling a plan, he punted it off to Reid and Pelosi and tried to “remain above the fray”.

The bill that was passed might as well have been written by the insurance industry. Now everybody has to be covered, which will be used as justification to raise everyone’s rates and just because everybody has to be covered, doesn’t mean everybody will be able to afford it. People who do have insurance will have higher rates, many will just pay the fine and take their chances and the insurance industry will cry all the way to the bank. In 3-4 years, I fully expect to see insurance companies announcing record profits. If I was one to play the stock market casino, that’s where I’d put my money.

I also see a lot of employers using it as an excuse to drop coverage on their employees.

I think there was an opportunity to actually do something and that opportunity was lost. It may be another 20 years before the opportunity rolls around again.

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Well Cheesy needs to show us a date.

A lot can change in 11 years. Maybe nothing changed at all, but something more recent would seem to add to the validity.

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HillBilly

Will be interesting to see which companies drop coverage. I’m sure some will, but I don’t many major corporations are going to but I could be wrong.

They still have to compete for workers against other companies.

To you point about the insurance companies. I agree, but I think they are going to be somewhat of a benefactor regardless of what the law is or is going to be.

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Belly Laughs

Who knows but the major companies may do it, too, somewhat slower.

Who would’ve thought, 40 years ago, that defined benefit pensions would go away and be replaced by 401ks? And the 401k was never designed to be a pension plan; it was designed to give a few high income executives a place to shelter their money from taxes. Companies quickly figured out how they could use it for the transfer, though. You never can tell about unintended consequences.

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Belly Laugh:

The most recent I could find:

Public Perceptions and Media Coverage of the Canadian healthcare System: A Synthesis

Four of the most critical findings:

■ In particular, there is a sense that the current system is unsustainable, and that the most pressing issues include doctor shortages and wait times.

■ This apprehension is evident in government approval ratings as well. While general levels of approval have remained largely static, there is a downward shift in the proportion of respondents who feel that governments are likely to be able to improve the current system in the near future, plagued by a combination of financial constraints and inefficient management.

■ In turn, these concerns appear to have led to a steady (consideration) of alternative options, such as paying for quicker access, user fees, and privatization.

■ Indeed, there is majority support for private sector delivery of tax-supported healthcare services, and Canadians are nearly evenly divided on the issue of allowing people to pay for quicker access to healthcare services when the public system cannot provide timely access.

I’m gone.

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“I’m gone.” Do you promise? Pretty please, with a cherry on top!

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Oops. Entered too soon.

And if company B & C, see that A got away with it, they’ll follow right in line. That’s one reason why real wages have been stagnant for the last 40 years.

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“Nice, they have a black Republican, Of course they’ll cart him out at the convention to prove what a big tent the GOP has”. Wow, no wonder Congressman Allen West said he was going to be outside selling hot dogs which he later walked back and said he was joking. The GOP tent has not grown a lot since the days when cameras at their convention would pan to Lionel Hampton and Gloria Toote. Of course both of them are taking a dirt nap now. There’s a term for Artur Davis……token. Which is just what he’ll be. Maybe if they had reached out, they have gotten Condoleeza Rice and Colin Powell. No, forget about it. They are decent individuals but they are too closely associated with George W. Bush. We don’t need no reminders of him. Or maybe the Republicans have a quota system.

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You think there is any chance Artur’s conservative conversion could be from the water he drinks? Sorry, just day dreaming – we could bottle it, give it away in Atlanta, and most of our regional problems would be solved.

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“Some of the AJC’s liberals are strange people.”

I would agree, however you seem to have forgotten the right side of the aisle.

Unless one just wants to see what they want to see, there are a lot of strange ones on these blogs. They are not all liberal, if you want to be truthful.

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JohnnyReb:

“we could bottle it, give it away in Atlanta, and most of our regional problems would be solved.”

. . . bu the AJC would cease to exist as we know and love it!

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Kyle, why didn’t you ever write about Mitt Romney’s disastrous overseas trip???? You conveniently ignored it. There were no highlights, just nothing but lowlights.

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“I’m gone” and yet you return. You’re either (a) a liar, (b) a schizophrenic or (c) all of the above.

Dingleschnirt

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“The former congressman served in Alabama’s seventh congressional district for four terms and lost the state’s gubernatorial election in 2010, a result that drove Davis to leave politics.”

This man isn’t even relevant. Nothing to see here, move along folks.

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Rafe – He didn’t just question their preparedness, but also their enthusiasm; it turns out the Olympics were a rip-roaring success for the Brits, with no lack of preparedness or enthusiasm of any kind.

Then, he moseyed on to the Holy Land where he directly compared Israeli gross domestic product to Palestinian per capita GDP, attributing the Israelis’ economic vitality to their culture, while at the same time ignoring the Israeli occupation of the Palestinian territories. He then caused the Polish to question his commitment to labor rights.

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Kyle, it looks like Slick Rick has taken over my turf of showing yet again that you should stick to politics and stay out of economic analysis. He cleaned your clock.

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Yuze – The world is big enough for both of us. Besides, as a “lib,” I have no problem sharing.

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Belly Laugh:

They are not all liberal, if you want to be truthful.

From what I’ve experienced, the liberals win on the stalker field. Until you’ve had one interject themselves into your personal business, e-mail, and child’s facebook site, you wouldn’t have a clue as to what I’m talking about.

No liberal has ever mentioned an AJC conservative having done THAT.

I entered the AJC blogs pretty liberal in my own right. I’ll be leaving far more conservative thanks to them.

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enthusiasm;

Lot of empty seats the few times I tuned in.

You second paragraph indicates he is a truthful fellow, unlike our present occupant. Walesa (sp), union man, endorsed Romney. Israel would not need to occupy the lands of their neighbors, if those folks would give up their war like activity in their misplaced effort to drive Israel into the sea and end Zionism. Their culture is superior to the “palestinians”, who live their life, seemingly to destroy Israel.

Sounds like much more success than otherwise, and that is probably why it is not being discussed. Kinda like most of the other distractions the left floats everyday to keep the media focused anywhere but on Obama’s record of miserable failure to create jobs and improve the economy.

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“I’m gone” and yet you return. You’re either (a) a liar, (b) a schizophrenic or (c) all of the above.

OR as I said in an earlier post, I had to go to the pool supply to pick up a flange for my skimmer.

Gone, as in temporarily.

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Besides, as a “lib,” I have no problem sharing.

If you’re the best liberals have to offer, I have a HUGE problem with sharing!

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Wont you join us?!

Even though I’m white, sorry, no sale, igs.

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I would rather listen to John Huntsman Sr, John Jr.’s father, the same guy who worked at Bain with Mittens, I believe he was CFO during the Mittens tenure… perhaps he would explain Mittens taxes for all of us. Not too sure he is an impartial member of the Party, considering how Mittens dissed his son during the primaries, but still interesting to hear his viewpoint.

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How dumb do the Republicans think we are? Particularly if they are looking at us as a group separate from themselves, meaning there are no Republicans among the group they are trying to trick. A few days ago they took a sound bite and made it into the racial standard of the Democratic Party. Half the room was black because they were there to support a party that has supported them through the years, a history of friendship culminating with the first black president. Now they found one of maybe a dozen black men, in this country, who would feel comfortable in the tent of white racious politicians and selling out their people, and they think the world has forgotten, like Jews forgetting Hitler that these are very dangerous people to the powerless black or white.

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Belly Laugh:

I’m glad you mentioned the “tard” thing. I’ve shared my displeasure with those who use the word “tard”. Only because I work with physically and intellectually challenged children. At some point, I just gave up the battle.

More offensive than the word, one AJC liberal attacked me with a site called The Tard Blog which I found offensive. The liberal thought it was hilarious.

Oh well.

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“If ye love wealth greater than liberty, the tranquility of servitude greater than the animating contest for freedom, go home from us in peace. We seek not your counsel, nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you; may your chains set lightly upon you, and may posterity forget that you were our countryman.”

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Ole Zell always said “I didn’t leave the democrat party, the democrat party left me”. I think many of the Blue Dogs can relate……….must be hard trying to remain fiscally conservative while one’s party has a deficit of 1.5 trillion each and every year.

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cc

This guy was a Dem, he was to much of a coward to lash out at the whites that did not support him, so he lashes out at Obama for white votes, your answer yes

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Real simple thought, not hard to grasp at all, Mr.and Mrs. America:

Are you better off today than you were four years ago?

Is the country better off today than it was four years ago?

Is economic uncertainty more worrisome for you today than it was four years ago?

Five trillion dollars spent in less than four years, unemployment remains above 8%, America has not regained its’ triple A credit rating, U.S. corporate taxation is the highest and most disadvantageous to job creation in the world; while other countries have made necessary tax reforms.

This isn’t what most people would call being better off.

Goodnight to all.

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In my own backyard.

Victor Hill, former Sheriff of Clayton County seeking RE-ELECTION, left office with over 20,000 outstanding warrants. Looks to me like he was in cahoots with the crime shoppers.

Woe is us.

I can’t get out of here fast enough. Time is short.

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Consumer complaint.

What happened to the glue that held the cereal bag inside the box?

A dollup of glue. Is that too much to ask?

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Rafe Hollister, suffering through Oblamer’s ineptocracy @ 4:54:

I haven’t a clue what you are talking about?

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And what about Allen West?? Maybe, just maybe he could name all those “communists” in the Dem. Party on national TV!
How about it Mr. West?

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md, never mind, you don’t have to answer that.

I have issues with a particular male (my husband) and his love of bar soap. Shower gel makes my life easier.

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“A Time for Choosing” by Ronald Reagan

Awesome!

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Am I a beeyotch?

My friends tell me I am.

Yes, I’m female.

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gm:

Hey Mr. Tom, how did this work out for Hermain Cain?

It was the media that destroyed Herman Cain.

Funny how the women and the media’s interest in said women disappeared once Cain withdrew.

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Oh, I see…Dudley just wants to talk nasty. Where’s Debbie, Dudley? Why not share your “sweet” nothings with her?

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That can be said for all sides.

No one is worried about Ensign on NV after he resigned in disgrace for having an affair.

Vitter of LA story went away after admitting he went to the House of ill repute a few times.

Cain destroyed Cain. If Cain had been libeled he would have sued.
Was it all true, dont know or care. I doubt it. But the number of texts msgs he was sending and at the times he was sending the to that one woman, even you do not believe he was just “helping her”.

he was getting a “helping” alright

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Belly Laugh:

Was it all true, dont know or care. I doubt it. But…?

^^^ The word But negates everything you said prior to…

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In your mind it does and that is fine, BUT the records are what the record are……..

The media didn’t find those women on their own, someone tipped them off. Again, who had most to gain.

Internal politics is has dirty or more so than Party vs Party politics

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“If Cain had been libeled he would have sued.”

Belly Laughs, you obviously aren’t familiar with the virtual amnesty people have when hurling libelous or slanderous statements against those considered “public officials”, are you?

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When reading names, do a name conjure up an image in your mind of the person? For some reason, it does that for me!

For instance, when I read the name “Dudley” . . .

Never mind . . .

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Not saying you voted for him. I was just naming a few people who at the time the story broke had much to gain from Cain exiting the race.

I thought two of the ladies stories were probably bogus or surely not to the extent it was portrayed.

The 3rd lady with the phone records and proof of where they stayed on trips, rent and car paid for. Wife didn’t know until story broke. Really? Her job wasn’t even one of travel. Just “every” now and then.

When he said he would fight it out then quit the next week, I was not surprised. Of course I’m not privy to all that info, but my speculation is that he quit because another shoe was going to drop. maybe I’m wrong, but too much smoke for me

And that isn’t just because he is a Republican. I don’t trust many of those scoundrels at all. Not say they all cheat, but imo they are not for the average Joe. Both sides sell a great shtick but there has been so much crap over the last 30 yrs on both sides to tell me most of them are there for themselves.

Nice chat

Got to run

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If the lib media had paid as much attention to obozo as they did to Cain, he would not be the president and America wouldn’t be in ruins.

Just an observation.

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So how do you do the little blue name deal?

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Beats me.

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Big

Small

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Will the last Democrat to leave please turn out the lights.

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Thulsa:

Governor Wilder may have been there although it appears to be for a panel discussion following the fundraiser.

The event, to raise money for the Romney campaign, was previously scheduled with Jindal. Ryan, who on Saturday was announced as presumed GOP presidential nominee Mitt Romney’s running mate, has been added to the program.

Gov. Bob McDonnell will also attend the fundraiser, which takes place just before he and Jindal are scheduled to participate in a panel discussion at the McDonnell administration’s K-12 Education Reform Summit. Also on the panel are former Gov. L. Douglas Wilder and former West Virginia Gov. Bob Wise.

http://politics.blogs.timesdispatch.com/2012/08/14/ryan-jindal-raise-money-richmond/

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I use to work for Waffle House Corporate Office, and they don’t pay as well as you would think. Everyone in the corporate office has to work in a restaurant once a year. You have to work there 10 years before you get 3 weeks vacation. You only get 6 holidays a year, and they have no sick leave policy–it depends on what your supervisor decides.

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Let’s face it folks–Obama had no experience at anything in the real world when he was elected. He was an astute, good looking, good talking black man to many. He has in three years driven us down the road to to the beginning of a has been nation. He has no answers to the nations problems, only temporary vote related fixes. if re-elected in the near future you 1960-70 generation and after folks are going to have a rude awaking. I am too old to worry anymore, but my children, grandchildren will have to–along with you and ours. Prevaors of entitlements need not reply as time is limited.

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“Davis proves as effective a turncoat as Miller was.”
That’s just insulting, Kyle. Correct as far as the use of the word, but insulting from the connotation. We need more Democrats willing to stand up and do the right thing.

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Poor Artur. He’s still angry about not being elected governor of Alabama. Never ending anger will drive you nuts. Artur and Zell are perfect examples of that.

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The bigest Uncle Tom since Clarence Thomas, this idiot gets mad at Obama administration for not supporting him in his race for gov in Ala, so he loses big, did he really think the tea party right wing were going to vote for a Black guy in Ala?

What a coward instead of lashing out at the whites who did not vote for him he lashes out at Obama, he thinks by being a black uncle tom whites in Ala are going to vote for him ha, ha, ha, did you learn anything from uncle Hermain Cain?””””’

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Anyone of color who is conservative is trashed by the other side. I really don’t get it. Talk and discuss differences, but trashing a person is just not right. Bad week for Obama. Ryan bump,Biden gaff and at three stops in Iowa this week, he drew 600, 855 and 2000. In 08 those crowds were in the thousands.

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how cute, you guys found a brown person for your Inclusion Illusion.

Lord High Hairgel = no taxes = toast

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Here’s a pretty apt example of what 174,000 jacketed hollow point bullets can be used for….when in the wrong hands -

South African police gun down unarmed striking miners, killing 34…

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/africaandindianocean/southafrica/9481814/South-African-police-say-they-were-forced-to-fire-on-striking-miners-killing-34.html

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I tell ya St Simons, cut off the money and see what “brown people” think of Democrats. It’s really a crime to keep them on the Government dime while the public schools fail them everyday…..because we all know an educated person just may not vote Democratic.

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It’s kinda funny but I have to turn down the volume on obozo’s non stop screeching goony attack ads to hear the libs whining about the Koch Brothers.

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Liberal and whine….y`all need to get a room or at least an airport stall together.

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We can live with barely Dem.

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The Obama campaign has come up with a new ploy to keep questions about Mitt Romney’s taxes in the news: a publicly-released challenge to release three more years of returns in exchange for a promise to let the matter go there.

Sounds reasonable to me.

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Tears of laughter after reading you tin foil hat stuff.

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Fannies getting tight in the white house. Truth over lies still wins. We are in trouble. Not all Obama’s fault, but unable to fix it with his ideology and his party affiliation.

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How many “crowds” do you think are in Iowa? You need to get out of Cordele and see the country.

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The Black man has a right to his opinon and presidential choice. It is what this country was founded on, rght? Although we all may draw our own conclusions, OBVIOUSLY, his “change” of stripes is clear propoganda for the Mitt machine. It is beyond me that such a lame showing of “inclusion” was even considered. It shows us all how ridiculously out of touch the leaders of the GOP are.

The GOP has claimed that this election is about ideology and Mr. Obama’s record of failed policies. Policies, which we must be reminded of, were originally GOP ideas. Now he’s to be villanized by the same. Incredible and the GOP s just that out of touch to believe it, package it, and sell it. I don’t know the intent Mr. Davis, he is his own man. However, I am certain that his decision to switch parties was difficult and if he speaks at the convention it will be an outing of beliefs his has held for some time. That is a personal quandry laced with political risks.

Game over, GOP. That will not work…

OBAMA 2012

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And when all you read and listen to is Bookman and MSNBC, you will not hear,feel,believe the progress being made by the GOP ticket. Hang on….and Ryan will be in Villages in Florida this week with his mother who lives there , who is on MEDICARE, taking his plan to the heart of the storm, not hiding from them in the mid west somewhere…..As all you will here on state run media.

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TRUTH………Thank you for saying he has the right to his opinion.

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The “crowds” obozo gets nowadays are paid to attend.

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The only difference between Republicans and 90% of Democrats in Alabama is just how Republican they are.

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Obama is paying millions for ridiculous programs such as putting bird houses in forests when he is meanwhile cutting out subsidies farmers here need to compete with the rest of the world that is getting subsidized by the Socialist governments like Venezuela. I put up his bird houses three years ago and receive a check in the mail every year equal to about 10 times my expense. The birds have plenty of places to live in the woods and don’t show any interest in the stinkin’ bird houses. Another wasteful program from Obama.

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The news this morning was they are keeping Mitt and Eddie Munster together so they can keep their stories straight.

Good luck in Fla. today telling those old folks your, his, Mitts, Eddies, plan for Medicare.

What a cluster y`all have going on.

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skydog……….yo man ought to be surging against our weak team. Obama out there saying you need four more years of me…………………whoops, sorry, ain’t hearing that…..all I hear is ” hell na, not these white guys”…..LOL

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Obama can just run on the facts that Rob Me/ Ayn have nothing but the ol GOP CRAP. Rich get Richer by screwing the middle class….Losers..

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Keeping it on the low down. About 15 Black Clergymen from around the country came to Washington about a month ago and denounced Obama’s support for gay marriage at a press conference.Guess the only news organization that covered it? Just like the shooting this week in Washington from a supporter of a Gay organization at a Conservative values organization……….Crickets….bias? Ya think.

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