The disturbing attacks on Chick-fil-A

This is NO surprise, the left radicals are just that, RADICAL. Chic fila will not lose any business, matter of fact, I will bet their business increases….

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Watch out for Redneck Convert in the Chick fil A drive thru. He will drive over you in his F-550!

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and Boston will have no money to buy a meal #1 anyway since they have INVESTED in the BIG DIG

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hey if liberals and homosexuals boycott them…….. it just means the rest of us get our meals a lot quicker

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they should start a new ad campaign with the cows

be beef-a-fobic
eat mor chick

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I picked up a peach milkshake at Chic-fil-a yesterday. I allow myself one a year. The place was busy, busy, busy.

My daughter had two friends in high school who were gay. Both worked at the local Chic-fil-A for several years.

One was awarded a Chic-fil-A scholarship to attend college. All of their co-workers attended the same high school. They knew they were gay. I’ve no doubt Mr. Cathy knew too.

I’m bettin’ there’s an employment policy at Chic-fil-A where they’re not allowed to discuss their sexual positions.

Thank goodness!

schnirt

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Justifying hatred because its part of your religion? Disturbing!

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Besides, this is freaking fried high calorie JUNK FOOD. I avoid fast food in general, nevermind those run by bigots.

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@sheep Dawg and Slick Rick

Guys just do us all a favor and get some help!

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I’m just content that Mitt continues to practice Freedom Of Speech…

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brian logic

hating jerry sandusky for child molestation because its part of your religion is disturbing!

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Replace this is with “black” and get the point.

Ok to repress a group of people called gay, not ok to suppress blacks but it WAS in <1964.

Grow up people. Evolve.

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The left has again shown what bigots and hypocrites they really are. An Independent business owner of a family owned business who also happens to be a Christian believer announces that he and his family members don’t support same sex marriage. What happens in the aftermath, we have the left wingers coming out vilifying Dan Cathy accusing him of bigotry and announcing a boycott of his business locations. Of course there’s no creditable evidence that Chick-fil-A has ever discriminated against a homosexual customer or a employee but they’ll call him a bigot merely because he expressed his belief. These tools of the hard-left are the real bigots. What’s way over the top is Democrat politicians in major U.S. cities threatening illegal action by denying Chick-fil-A business permits. Does the DNC condemn this bigoted discrimination against Christian owned business? Of course they don’t and won’t. This latest assault on American Christians may very well be a strong motivator to come out in huge numbers and vote against Democrats who condone this left wing bigotry in November.

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“This is disturbing on a number of levels, two in particular.

The first is the idea that local governments might deny a business license to a company because of the beliefs of its owners.”

I would hazard a guess that a great many conservatives wouldn’t be disturbed in the slightest by this prospect given their attitudes with respect to the construction of new mosques. I guess its only wrong when it’s Christians that are being “persecuted” for their beliefs.

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Candidly, Kyle, no, a business shouldn’t be denied the right to operate in a city because of its founder’s beliefs, no matter how bigoted, hateful and completely wrongheaded they are. I’ll vote with my wallet. But the hypocrisy and bigotry of the “religious faithful” (Michele Bachman in particular, but also including Mr. Cathy) is odious and has no place in a supposedly civilized, supposedly enlightened country.

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The younger Cathy was talking about what he believed, and he’s perfectly entitled to have and promote his beliefs. I’m more concerned about the company donations to anti-gay groups in the past. If the donations are ongoing I don’t want to spend money at a place that will give part of it to discriminatory groups, however little an amount of money that is. Chick-fil-A is entitled to spend as it will; and, I’m entitled to show my displeasure by eating elsewhere.

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I strongly disagree with the Cathy family’s viewpoint but so long as they don’t discriminate in any way I don’t see any serious problem here. It’s also perfectly acceptable for individuals and organizations to boycott the restaurant if they so desire. I stopped eating at their restaurants long ago.

But I certainly disagree with governments imposing their will on the situation. If Chick-Fil-A wants to open a restaurant in Boston they should be allowed to. Let sales and profitability determine its ultimate fate — not politicians.

Of course, I don’t like government trying to shut down abortion clinics but that’s another issue for another day.

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And when it comes to “discrimination:”

Of course, one of the most frequent and favorite cries of the left is the dreaded “d-word:” discrimination. Never-mind that virtually every position in the marriage debate requires a measure of “discrimination.” As Al Mohler recently put it, “Discrimination—even ‘obvious discrimination’—is not necessarily wrong at all. Indeed, any sane society discriminates at virtually every turn, as do individuals. The law itself is an instrument of comprehensive discrimination.”

What’s more, as Mohler also points out, both individuals and governments discriminate on (gasp!) moral terms. “No sane person would ask a convicted child molester to be a baby sitter. No sane society would elect a known embezzler as state treasurer. These acts of discrimination are necessary and morally right.”

So a real dilemma for the left here lies not in their efforts to gain acceptance of same-sex marriage, but rather, how they would (eventually) discriminate and define marriage? Also problematic for liberals: upon what moral code would this definition rest?

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How they run their business is their business. If you don’t like it, go somewhere else. If they had crappy food and service, you’d go somewhere else, right? But Kyle:

“But I have yet to see the first shred of evidence Chick-fil-A is actually discriminating against gay couples.”

I feel the same way about this and the alleged voting by illegals. No shred of truth/evidence, but aren’t you for the new voter I D laws being passed because of the illegal voting versus it is just the right and smart thing to do, as long as all have free access to getting an ID?

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Words have consequences.

The chicken dude is a blithering idiot for putting both feet in his mouth. And he should have known better.

The bad part is that the innocent franchisees who are caught in the middle of this firestorm are the ones who will pay the price for his stupidity. He has enough money he doesn’t have to care about the consequences.

And to Kyle’s point about good coffee, I never figured out how that overpriced cr@p at the Chicken Shack ever became popular in the first place.

Oh that’s right! Most people are TV addicts and easily manipulated sheep and all it takes to convince them is a clever Madison Avenue marketing campaign that is pounded into their skulls over and over and over and…

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The argument you’re making is, I think sound. But then let’s apply it to everyone, not just those of your political persuasion. I went over your archived articles and I didn’t see you defending the mosque who wanted to build in downtown NYC, nor did I find you defending the religious freedom of the mosque who wanted to build in TN.

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Please stop trying to tie the gay rights and black rights together. They are totally different.

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Good coffee and Starbucks should never be used in the same sentence. More like burnt bean coffee: Charbucks.

Guess i need to boycott Kyle’s blog since I don’t agree with his views??

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I think everyone is too uptight about these things. Didn’t the Christian conservatives have a problem with Disney just a few years back. I support gay marriage but I am not surprised and certainly, not shocked by Cathy’s comments. I don’t think he went out of his way for this publicity and i would be personally more concerned if his company discriminated against gays in hiring and promotions.

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The idea at the foundation of our freedom of speech is often said to have been summarized by the French philosopher Voltaire: “I may not agree with what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it.”

Indeed, but Voltaire never said that you would be free from consequences of your actions. Say what you want, but others have the same right to speak and the right to take action against what you said.

Aren’t you being a hypocrite for criticizing their right to free speech? Have any of them taken any real action against Chic-Fil-A?

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There was a time when cafes in the south would have menus with prices that depending on your color, you would move the decimal one space to the left.

This is not the case at all with this place, they take a low cost product and sell it at a high price to all that will pony up with the jack.

The only thing that would hurt this outfit is if it became a gay, druggie, or muslem hangout. That would befront their base. Don’t seem too likely.

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I seem to remember an unsuccessful 9-year boycott of Disney by the American Family Association because Disney was offering partner benefits to its employees.
The reality is that they are all entitled to free speech on the matter. CFA can say what it wants, Henson can say what they want, people can choose to boycott or not, and anyone can have a debate about it.
Free speech does not become an “attack” just because the recipient of the criticism is a Christian.

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Nobody has infringed on Cathy’s freedom of speech, he won’t go to jail for what he said. But there are results, some good as in support some bad as in lost customers. But he’s still free to speak his mind. Anyone guess his party affiliation ? Is that the underlining issue ?

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Have you actually read what Dan Cathy of Chic-fil-a said? He said, “We are very much supportive of the family – the biblical definition of the family unit.”

Sure, the statement may not be ‘pro-gay,’ but I don’t see how it’s ‘anti-gay’ either.

It’s like this: Does it mean you’re ‘anti-beef’ if you say, “I like chicken?” No. You’re simply stating a personal preference toward chicken – it doesn’t mean you’re ‘anti-beef.’

In the same way, by Dan Cathy saying, “We support the biblical family unit” he’s not saying, “We hate gays,” or “We think you shouldn’t be gay.” He’s just stating a preference toward support of the biblical family unit. That’s all.

So if you like chicken, Eat Mor Chikin. If you don’t, take your beef somewhere else.

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JF MCNAMARA

your logic is flawed……………. the mayors of cities making statements in their official duties is NOT FREE SPEECH………… when they are not in their capacity of mayor they are FREE to speak as they wish.

i remember how much ignorance LIBERALS had when the DIXIE CHIX ran their mouth against Bush in GB!……………. when they were boycotted by radio stations and fans………..liberals starting screaming that you can’t deny them their right to free speech

what the ignorant liberals didnt understand that the reaction of the radio stations and fans was FREE SPEECH…………. liberals cried that the DIXIE CHIX cant be denied their free speech…………. but the logic liberals didn’t understand was that those AGAINST the DC’s weren’t DENYING FREE SPEECH………. but rather EXERCISING THEIR FREE SPEECH TO DISAGREE

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ahhh, the ‘how dare you not tolerate my intolerance’ card

Remember, monay is speech, corporations are people,
and i have to remember that karma is slowwww

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maybe we should start creating seperate but equal establishments for homos and straights

bathrooms
men
women
gays and confuseds

no voting unless hetero

that way then the argument can equate the civil rights movement to the GLBT movement

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…the mayors of cities making statements in their official duties is NOT FREE SPEECH.

That is completely illogical and makes zero sense.

Of course it is.

Simply look up the definition of freedom of speech.

Freedom of speech is the political right to communicate one’s opinions and ideas via speech.

Everyone has the right to freedom of opinion and expression; this right includes freedom to hold opinions without interference and to seek, receive and impart information and ideas through any media and regardless of frontiers.

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Kyle

It is messed up that those mayor’s would say such a thing

Did you have the same sentiment about the NYC and TN mosques? Did you use the same wording? If not, why not?

Be honest and did you write an article about it?

And you can save the, there were Democrats against those mosques as well because I mean strictly on principle and not party affliction.

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Freedom of Speech = Being Able to Say “I DO”

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Bruno

While Cathy has certainly giving millions (and that is a great thing), you have no idea as to who has given what in terms of money and time to charities. So quit with the crap and your sanctimonious bs.

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Kyle

You seem to be avoiding the mosque issue.

Seems like you came down with a case of selective outrage. Hopefully you overcome that in a short period of time.

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you have no idea as to who has given what in terms of money and time to charities. So quit with the crap and your sanctimonious bs

Survey after survey has shown what I’ve always known intuitively: Liberals are big talkers, but little givers.

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Don was the mouth, not Truit. Both are generous with their wealth.

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chic-fil-a employing thousands of people and sending thousands of great kids to college

rahm emanuel——— stealing millions of dollars from poor americans when working for Freddie ma

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One I was addressing Kyle.

If you can’t handle people responding to your posts, then maybe you shouldn’t be posting on a public forum. I didn’t address my first post to you, but you felt free to answer.

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Kyle you seem to be avoiding the excellent comparison Road Scholar made about the NY Mosque.

As for Boston and Chicago trying to deny Chick Fil A restaurants from operating in their cities I think it is a no brainer, its wrong. It will also go nowhere.

Cathy and the gay activists have every right to their opinions. If those that support Cathy wish to show their support eating there great! If people boycott Chick Fil A great too!

I won’t eat their because of the hyper religious wrong groups they support.

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I will continue to eat there regardless of his beliefs on same sex marriage, the man has a right to voice his opinion… That is what our country was founded on… freedom of speech, religion, etc… people are so lame to attack an entire entity based on one man’s beliefs… I mean honestly people it’s a Christian based company that closes its doors every Sunday for that exact reason!! Not all Christians or any religion for that matter is accepting of same sex marriage…. I, for one, could care less who people marry, all I care about is who I marry and I will continue to eat Chick-fila in the future…

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Rahm Emmanuel has obviously never had the #5 value sized with barbecue sauce and a diet lemonade. It will blow your damn mind. Chic Fil A could come out in support of kicking puppies for fun and I would still eat there.

Thanks.

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Mr. Cathy doesn’t believe I should have the same rights as heterosexual couples. Therefore he believes in discrimination, and has proven it in word and in cash to anti-gay groups.

He has no business talking about gay marriage in the first place. He needs to STFU and stick to frying chicken.

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People – go across the street for lunch if you don’t like what he believes. He isn’t “oppressing” anyone so stop with the GD drama. Your dollar is your voice – you sound like children. I don’t watch Michael Moore films…and that is how I voice my opposition, I don’t give him my money. That is the best way to hurt a business if that is what you want to do – whining on Kyle’s board gets you exactly nowhere.

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Chik-Fil-A also gave MILLIONS of dollars to NOM in order to fight the legalization of gay marriage. They have admitted as much Kyle. Gay Americans, their friends and families have every right to be offended. And if people want to support this kind of bigotry with their wallets, more power to them, but for them to hide behind Christ while doing it is vulgar.

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ATTENTION ALL TRUE SOUTHERNERS
we have a great opportunity with this CRISIS!!!!!!!!
all these liberals in the Souht that believe in GOVERNMENT CONTROL, GAY MARRIAGE, HIGH TAXES, HIGH SPEED RAIL, etc………….WHY DON’T WE PAY FOR THEM TO MOVE……….. to Chicago, NYC and California so they can LIVE with those that THINK and BELIEVE as they do

its a WIN WIN

they get to live with a GOVERNMENT that MIRRORS their BELIEFS
we don’t have to put up with them anymore

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Special for Up:

http://blogs.ajc.com/kyle-wingfield/2010/08/18/europe-shows-the-result-of-total-insistence-on-tolerance/#comment-27967

Bruno

August 18th, 2010
8:38 pm

“And they will conclude that even in America, with a prouder history of assimilation and inclusiveness than Europe has, it would be prudent to meet this outrage with something other than finger-wagging.”

Kyle–I gotta say, you just blew whatever good will you had built up over the last few days with this conservative. The only “solution” to your “concerns” would be to sanction discrimination against a particular group based solely upon their religious affiliation. And to accomplish that, you will need to overturn a key part of our Constitution, a part that I hold near and dear as a non-Christian.

In case you forgot, the non-Establishment clause was created in response to the oppressiveness that sanctioned discrimination in Europe had created in the Middle Ages. Your “solution” is far worse than the problem, and you should know that.

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and PROGRESSIVE INSURANCE gave millions to the democratic party but not the republicans

they should be ashamed of themselves
in fact they should not be allowed to write policies

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Did you have a problem with people and government leaders in Murfreesboro TN and NYC protesting Mosques being built in those cities Kyle? Bet not…

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My problem with Mr Catheys remarks don’t really involve implied opposition to gay marriage only. He also said that they(meaning his family) were all married to their first wives and on biblical principles. That’s fine with me, however I refuse to refer to men and women in their second marriages as adulterers. (Matt 5: 31-32; Mark 10: 2-12)

I respect your religious beliefs, don’t publicly disrespect mine. Just follow the commandment to “love your neighbor” and we’ll all get along just fine.

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What is this “traditional marriage” definition that christianists like to use as a weapon? Traditionally, 10,000 years ago, a wife was whichever the lead caveman wanted right then. 4000 years ago, it was between a man and a woman who was a virgin on her wedding date (others would be stoned to death). 3000 years ago, a wife was one of King David’s harem of wives and concubines. 1000 years ago, it was whichever young lass the viking was able to kidnap. 100 years ago, it was Mitt Romney’s great grandfather, and his great-grandmother, and his other great-grandmother, and his other great-grandmother, and his other great-grandmother. 50 years ago, it was between a white man and a white woman. In Appalachia, it’s between a man and his 12 year old sister. Stop with this fake story about “traditional marriage has always been defined exactly as it was 40 years ago.”

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I seldom agree with you, Kyle, but I do on this one. I’m disgusted that Dan Cathy actually believes we risk God’s wrath based upon Dan’s perverted interpretation of an allegorical text, but he has the right to open his stores anywhere. If folks want to make a political statement about his views, then they have the right to eat somewhere else.

One other thing: as much as I disagree with Dan Cathy, it takes courage to risk what he did to express his firmly held belief. On that, I applaud him…..Furthermore, in spite of his position on this, he and the rest of the Cathy clan have done more to leave the world a much better place than almost any family I know.

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I love you Aquagirl.

Hopefully not in a gay sort of way, because then we’ll both be forever denied peach milkshakes and waffle fries.

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Typical libs. The party that demands inclusion and tolerance has neither. One person voices an opinion that is contrary to their liberal mindset and they would deprive 100s of new jobs in a city. Mind you there is not a shred of evidence that the company ever actually discriminated against a single customer nor employee but how dare he have an opinion. Democrats…the party of hate.

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Kyle

I gave you credit, however you were very easy on the wording compared to today.

Spin that all you like, but I read the article you posted in your replay as well as the one that was linked within that article. You were not as harsh as you were today. Your choice and you can play the semantics game all you like, but admit at least admit it.

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Let me tell you what kind of “bigot” Dan Cathey is. I support a charity called the Kenya Project whereby kids in Kenya, many without parents, are given a school and clean, safe place to stay. When Dan Cathy was approached about supporting this charity, he took out his checkbook and wrote a $10,000 check on the spot. He has continued to support the charity with kitchen equipment, additional funds, and many Chik-fil-A managers have been on mission trips to the school.

As a Christian, I believe you have to see that the Bible tells us that homosexuality is sinful, abdominable behavior. I also believe as a Christian that we are all sinners. Thus, I take the approach to Hate the Sin, but love the Sinner. I have gay friends and do business with some of them. However, I believe that gay marriage is sinful and will never support it. I believe other Christians take a similar approach. If that makes us bigots okay, I’ll accept that as I believe the laws of God trumpth those of man any day.

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Politicians don’t like liquor stores by churches, day care by Penn St., porn shops by schools. Up north, chicken stands — What’s next ?

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Obama is wrong

How is that Leviticus working out for you?

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Hate the sin, love the sinner is an oxymoron!

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FREEDOM OF SPEECH – does anyone understand what it means? Really? Who cares what the owners believe. If you like the chicken – buy their chicken! Anyone who feels that Chick fila should not be allowed to open restaurants is UNAMERICAN. Grow up, read the constitution, and celebrate the fact that we can all live together and not always have to agree!

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Its in him and its got to come out.

Party lines, folks.

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Up: Not sure if you read my reply to Kyle but while being somewhat consistent, he knows that that he was easy on his working about the mosque but came with “fascism” today.

Kyle: And what “solution” are you referring to? All I said was that it was unwise for elected leaders to deride the people objecting to the mosque. That didn’t mean then, and doesn’t mean now, they had to acquiesce to what those objectors wanted.

Kyle–I’m not sure if you’re trying to rewrite your column from Aug 18, 2010, but you characterized the proposed NY mosque as being “offensive”, and strongly suggested that the Cordoba group withdraw their plans to build a mosque out of concerns for “sensitivity”. You then went on to build an argument that tolerance for Muslims in Europe has led to intolerance on the part of the citizens there.

It’s really incumbent upon you to explain what you meant by saying “it would be prudent to meet this outrage with something other than finger-wagging.” I took this to mean that you supported denying a permit for the mosque. Here’s your chance to clarify your statements.

In advance of your clarification, I have to side with Up on this one. you seem to have an inconsistency in your positions. Tolerance for the Cathy’s has to be equaled for tolerance for others we don’t necessarily agree with if our Constitution is to mean anything.

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I go to a restaurant for food.

I go to a bar for drink.

I go to a repair shop to have my car fixed.

I don’t give a damn what the owners of each believe in, as long as they do a good job at their jobs.

There are too many people in the business of other people’s business.

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Here’s Kyle’s column from Aug 18, 2010. Maybe others here are reading something different from what I saw.

http://blogs.ajc.com/kyle-wingfield/2010/08/18/europe-shows-the-result-of-total-insistence-on-tolerance/?cp=10

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Why is standing on what you believe ignorance and bigotry? What is ignorant about believing marriage is intended for a man and a woman? Why is believing something is wrong bigotry? This isn’t about ignorance and bigotry. It’s about believing something and standing for it, now matter which way the current trend blows. Why should all this be shoved down the throats of those of us who wish to hold on to our core values?

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“As Elizabeth Scalia notes, this is how fascism works.”
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See RomneyCare for a BETTER example of Fascism.
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Baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

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@SayWhat — no one is forcing you to accept anything outside of your core beliefs. All we’re saying is don’t hold me hostage to those same beliefs.

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Bruno, I think you are reading too much into it.

There were no overt (and tough to even find covert) suggestions that the government should deny the center from being built.

Moreover, I think there is a difference in scale in both these instances, as well as a difference in sensitivity. People died 2 blocks away from the proposed Islamic center, at the hands of Islamic terrorists.

Chik-fil-A is just trying to sell chicken sandwiches and employ people.

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If one VOTES for a Fascist…………………then one IS.
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Admit it.

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This is not about opinions or how he runs his business. It’s about his donations to anti gay organizations. He (and his ilk) is actively trying to restrict or remove HUMAN RIGHTS from his fellow citizens! The LGBT community has every right to protest his business to show their disgust with him trying to remove their rights. Kyle until your rights are being taken away by someone save your fascism BS for someone else. Last time I checked a EVERY REAL FASCIST GOVERNMENT TARGETED GAYS FOR PERSECUTION!!!! Keep your religious beliefs out of the public sector if you don’t have the balls to deal with feedback!

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Unless you’ve lived under a rock the last 25 years, the religious position of Chick-fil-A and its executive committee has remained the same. The company continues to maintain a strong, biblical position – simply with its defiance to yield to potentially social and financial gain and open on Sundays. Obviously, it’s certainly acceptable for a company (or represetitive) to take a stand for what they believe in. HOWEVER, when a corporation – as a whole – directs financial support (whether it’s $.50 or $5 million) to organizations such as Exodus International & Focus on the Family, it becomes a visual statement of the over-all organization. I, as a gay Christian and FORMER patron of Chick-fil-A, cannot justify supporting a company who finances extreme fundamentalists that preach my mere existence is “unnatural”.

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Wingfeild supported Newt “I will take your money and spend on a moonbase AND give pot smokers the death penalty while I strengthen the Department of Education” Gingrich.
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And now he’s calling CFA opponents fascists?
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Ha Ha.

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If it takes a 2000 year old book to tell you Right from Wrong, you have a serious problem.
You can’t think for yourself or empathize ( put yourself in someone else’s shoes ) with other human beings.
Fortunately, as civilization advances, religions will slowly disappear. Yes, that very thing that causes more bloodshed in the name of “GOD” than all other deaths combined will one day become just a part of ancient history.
The truth shall one day set us all free.
Hallaluyah.

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If they opened a CFA in Chicago, it would just be another place to be murdered in that city.

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I can’t wait for a certain other AJC columnist to come back from vacation so that we can return to some semblance of informed discussion over here.

You know, minus all the hand-wringing and rhetoric.

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If conservative Christians are so devoted to the Bible and the sanctity of marriage, why don’t they ostracize adulterers and divorcees like they do gays?

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Romney and Obama progressives………………………….are perpetually lost and tossed ………in an unprincipled sea.
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Liberty-loving Ron Paul supporters……………………..a good anchor ifn we want it…..otherwise….it’s smooth sailing
And our numbers grow.

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@ BlueinRed… you are very correct. Since it seems to be pretty self explainatory to me, and you appear to have a different knowledge of this, maybe you can explain what other meaning might be given?

Ohhh… just so you know, i don’t hate or condemn anyone for what they do. I do my fair share of not abiding by the word. Everyone is given free will to do whatever they want. It’s just important to remember… there are consequences after it’s all said and done. I do care about others enough to say something because i would hate to see anyone go down in flames (pun intended) for a few short years of recklessness. But you have to admit, the truth is the truth and it never changes no matter how you want to spin it.

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Up, Up and Away, Leviticus is going well. thanks for your concern. Like other books of the Bible and God’s word, I sometimes fail in following it. That makes me a sinner same as you and others. We all fall short in the eyes of God. Glad to know, however, I am saved. How about you?

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“So how far should have the mosque been away from ground zero?”

The bigger question becomes, what is an Islamic center doing trying to be built in the heart of a financial district? As someone who has actually re-zoned property according to local laws, I questioned at that time the ordinances that would allow these two incompatible uses in that same area. No one was able to come up with a suitable answer. I also questioned the insensitive nature of the request. Legal or not, it was, and remains, insensitive.

“Who would be making that determination?”

As always, the government – based on citizen input and the laws in place at that time.

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The Democratic party of America needs to start a kristallnacht against Chik Fill A and other intolerant conservative businesses!

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I would like to throw Mittens Rom in a oven. Better yet a gas chamber!

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Went to the local mall not too long ago, shopped for a while and then had to use the restroom. Was joined in said restroom by two gay guys. One of the gay guys, not sure if he was the “woman” or not, went into a stall. The other gay guy stayed outside of the stall, luckily, but looked over the top of the door, watching his significant other taking care of the task at hand. They carried on a lovely conversation the whole time, most of it concerning the impending bowel movement. Needless to say, for the first time in my life, I didn’t wash my hands when leaving, because I was in a hurry to get the F out of there.

Maybe Chick-fil-A just doesn’t want them around.

Anybody should be able to understand that.

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Death to religion!

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You are all conservative retards!

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CFA is anti-Murder. Another reason not to open a restaurant in Chicago.

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Kyle

Cathy probably shouldn’t have voiced that and the blogosphere here should not have expected there to be no controversy with his sentiments. With that being said, I will still eat there as I always do. It’s a great company and I was happy to be employed there throughout high school. I’m not sure why we should be shocked at the turn of events…both sides do it and that will not change anytime soon.

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Tiberius

Thanks for the reply. Appears the decision was made that there was nothing illegal in what was occurring and all proper permits had been obtained, therefore it went forward as it should have. People exercised their rights to express opposition. It was duly noted and in the end the law prevailed.

Just as the Cathys have exercised their rights. Now people can go, not go, speak out or not speak out. As I noted earlier it was pretty lame for the mayors to have said what they did, but in the end they are politicians. IMO, they say a lot of stupid things. Depending on where one sits politically, some will get mad on the left or the right, etc, etc.

I have not questioned the motives of the Cathy’s nor will I question the motives of the Muslims who built the mosques and the one in TN. The one is TN to me was the real disgrace in terms of the shenanigans the local government tried in their efforts to keep it from being built.

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Kyle–Thanks for the reply. Back in a little while to answer….

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“Seriously people, homosexuality is intellectually futile to justify and when you look in the mirror each morning, you know that.”

Wow. Amazing that you can speak for the gay community, that is unless you are not telling us something

Tell it all

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Cathy can say what he wants. People can buy where they want to buy for whatever reason. If Cathy runs off 1% of his customers, well that was his decision. It will not destroy his business, just cut into the profits. But it does put the hundreds of franchise holders in a tough situation not of their making.

The same sex marriage issue is headed for the Supreme Court. The cases are already at the appeals court level.

“No State shall…deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.”

Someone will need to show the Court that the State has an overriding reason to deny equal protection to a portion of US citizens. The Prop 8 case out of California is not being appealed by the State, but a group of citizens. The DOMA case is not being appealed by the US Government but by a group of citizens.

Stay tuned.

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There are conservative boycotts of Home Depot and Target on; lets see how it all shakes out.

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Little Ricky

It occurs in nature. So what is your point?

When it occurs in nature do those acts result in procreation?

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Ricky

I’m not gay, but will not spend my life worrying about what to consenting adults do in their bedroom.

You feel free to get caught up in it if that makes you happy on some level or another

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Be careful with this freedom of speech business, the Constitutional protection applies to constraining government, not others opinions of you or the actions they may take against what you say.

Many things are legally fine but they can be very costly to you beyond the letter of the law. I understand this, as I hope all others who comment on these blogs do - which is the reason most do not use their real names “out of fear” – that others will retaliate in some damaging way simply because they disagree with your political, philosophical or religious beliefs.

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Progressie Humanist @4:44

Are you Willie’s brother? Both of you hate somebody.

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People need to stop equating their DESIRE and CHOICE to SLEEP with the same sex as grounds for marraige. I personally have NO problem with gay people or any other people but I dont want to see it forced down my or anyone else’s throat! He has a right to his opnion to believe what he wants. He closes it on Sunday for God’s sake. Anyways, Marraige is a MAN and a WOMAN dammit!

LOVE MY CHICK-fil-a. By the way he didn’t say he supports discrimination.

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When people start gabbling about how they don’t get the non-procreative aspects of sex, I always feel sorry for their partners.

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I just bought a Dixie Chicks album and listened to it while making a fresh salad at home. I chopped up a boiled egg and put it on the salad for my protein. In total, the salad and the album and the trip to the stores cost less than lunch at Chick-Fil-A. Now that’s a Real Deal.

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When people start gabbling about how they don’t get the non-procreative aspects of sex, I always feel sorry for their partners.

Don’t feel sorry for them unless they cannot manage to locate the Appalachian Trail.

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Replace this is with “black” and get the point.

Grow up people. Evolve

I have to agree with Kyle. I don’t think that Dan Cathy is supporting discrimination against anyone. He is stating his personal beliefs. Chick-Fil-A has had (and I am sure will continue to have) gay employees. Gay people have eaten at Chick-Fil-A. No one is saying that they can’t continue to have those rights.

What amazes me is that the people who are seeking tolerance are so intolerant of another’s beliefs. The first amendment is a wonderful thing. It allows me to say whatever I want to say, but I have to be fully prepared for someone to stand right next to me and scream the exact opposite of what I believe. Law School 101…

There is nothing to see here people… please move along.

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Progressive Humanist,

Well, hating ignorance is ok. but I think you still have a way to go . Why did you change your ID?

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Good write up, Kyle. It should come as no shock to any of us that lock step, politically correct thinking is the Dem/Lib way, and it is no stretch for them to mischaracterize anyone’s thoughts, ideas, or religious beliefs as the the actual practice of discrimination, disprespect, and in some cases racism or bigotry. All the old guy did was say that he believed in the definition of marriage (one man married to one woman) in the Bible. He wasn’t exactly out cruising the gay bars with this buddies and beating up gays in the parking lots or not allowing them into his restaurants. When did it become bigoted or discriminatory to have you own religious beliefs as long as you weren’t actively using them to cause harm to someone? Or why are you considered anti-gay, just because you don’t agree with every last point on the gay agenda. I personally have not one thing against gay men or women. But, I don’t believe that “marriage” as it has existed since it was first institued by God, covers same sex couples. So shoot me . . . no wait, just kidding.

How has this come about, you might ask? Well, for several decades now, American colleges and universities have been evolving into very vocal and strident left wing and even radical left institutions. The indoctrination starts early and God help the freshman or campus club or group that wanders outside the leftist box of pathological politically acceptable thought.

In order to ensure the politically correct environment (as defined by the left wing administrators, professors, and students) almost every college and university in Ameria has also enacted speech codes, which ostensibly identify, prohibit, and punish the purveyors of “hate” speech. But in reality, “hate speech” is actually expressing or writing conservative thoughts and ideas and taking conservative political positions. And why is that now “hate” — because they say it is.

The huge running joke amongst us “hateful” Pub/Cons is that you have all these professors and kids bowing down to the new Gods of Diversity and Political Correctness — and true enough, campuses are now “diverse” in the sense that they are populated by more different races, creeds, cultures, religions, sexual orientations, etc. than ever before — but the chuckle is that you can forget about any real intellectual diversty whatsoever– the reason that colleges and universities were founded in the first place. It seems that the God of Diversity doesn’t mind if everyone thinks exactly alike.

So here we are now taking it to the next step here in the real world. Believe as we do or you will be labeled as a hateful bigot, and once we get power over you, you can expect the worse. Tyranny always comes from the political left, not the right, where its proponents are too fond of personal freedom. First it speech codes, and then enacting laws that are “good for you” or for the “common good” or “fair for everyone” as they like to say. And then as the Nanny state grows, and becomes more powerful, it thinks up more and more things that are good for you. Such benevolence. And, before you know it, just like the college kids, you are not the one deciding what is good for you any more. Which direction is America heading in? Its is not hard to envision sitting in a jail cell one day because you believe marriage is only between a man and a woman.

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@ @@ @ 3:55 – no, he wouldn’t be my BFF; but he would show me he has some humanity and fundamental decency, after all.

If his charitable donations to needy children haven’t convinced you of his humanity and fundamental decency, nothing will.

Innocent children are one thing, fully aware adults are something else entirely.

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gay is the new black.

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@ @@ @ 5pm – Like Jerry Sandusky, right? His philanthropy extended to innocent children too. Misanthrope that he was, it extended inside of ‘em as well. And…

SCHNIRT

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Tyranny always comes from the political left, not the right…

Where do people come up with this made up insanity? (Musta been a Reaganista.)

It would get laughed out of a ninth grade history class. Maybe even a fifth grade class…

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@ rf – but we can be judged for freedom of being, yes? Conservatives do it all the time (no, not that doing it, the judging kind!). And…

SCHNIRT

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Slick Rick:

Aside from the fact that he opposes gay marriage, please let me know when allegations of child molestation are lodged against the Cathy family.

I would love to see Sandusky get the death penalty. I can, however, handle the disappointment.

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Howz’bout you forget me altogether, Slick. You’re nasty!

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I saw that one of those Catholic priests that covered up child molestation for all those years is finally going to serve time for his crime. That’s one down. Did his punishment fit the sin.

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Aren’t we boycotting Iran.

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It’s a shame that the traditional, correct moral Judeo-Christian view of marriage is controversial. How low we have sunk as a culture.

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Is it hypocrisy to welcome Louis Farrakhan to Chicago, a known anti-semite, while raging against Chick-fil-A building there?

Dan Cathy never said he opposed gay people, just opposed same sex marriage. He has that right, you know.

This is just more of the left wanting to outlaw, regulate, legislate, and eliminate any ideas that they do not think are fair or “progressive”. Never trust people to think for themselves, is what they are saying.

If I was a CFA manager and protesters showed up out front, I would immediately post a sign, “Free Sandwiches” and the crowd coming in would overwhelm the half dozen protesters.

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I wondered when this was gonna happen.

U.S. Olympic Committee wants Olympics footage out of campaign ads

The U.S. Olympic Committee has a message for the presidential candidates and their supporters: leave the Games out of your politics.

The committee today panned an ad released Wednesday by Priorities USA Action, the super PAC supporting President Obama, which made ample use of old Olympics footage of Mitt Romney at the 2002 Winter Olympics. The spot poked fun at Romney’s international investments and pointedly referred to foreign countries where Romney’s private equity firm, Bain Capital, helped create jobs.

That was not exactly in line with the Olympic spirit, at least according to the USOC.

[snip]

When we were assured Mitt Romney and his allies would be held to the same standard, we were more than happy to take ad down,” said Bill Burton, co-founder of the liberal super PAC.

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@ @@ @ 5:14 – “nasty” because my opinion differs from yours, or nasty because I present you with facts that undercut your thesis? Can you spell “intolerance”? not to worry if you can’t; it’s an essential part of a conservative’s raison d’etre and as such knowing what it means or how to spell it isn’t a necessary precondition to practicing it.

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I agree with Kyle this is over the top for public officials .
However if a company repeatedly lays off workers and outsources jobs to make money like Bain is doing right now in Freeport Illinois, should they be sanctioned in some way by the state and the feds instead of being given tax write offs. And should there businesses be publicized so people can boycott them? (Disclaimer- this has nothing to do with Mitt)

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This is why liberals must be eradicated. Couple deviant morals with political control and this is what you get. How many gay animals are there in a wolf-pack? None, the pack will turn on them and kill them. Hitler had it right, he just picked the wrong groups of people!

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fair and balanced

You have a problem with Bain outsourcing jobs, but if America’s mayor’s send the CFA jobs to the suburbs, that is OK. Hypocrisy their name is fair and balanced.

People want to eat at CFA, they are going to eat there, even if they have to drive outside the city limits. The more the left keeps this in the news, the better it is for the GOP in Nov.

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I see the Muslims up in Tennessee got their Mosque in spite of the objections from some of the locals and their objections to others having equal access to that Freedom of Religion thing.

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Sick of progs

…”the pack will kill them.” Let me know what documentary exposed this attack of a “gay” wolf.
You are just plain stupid. You can fix ignorant…but you can’t fix stupid.

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SheeshLouise

I am referring to the Godfather Rahm saying Chick-fil-A does not exhibit “Chicago values”, all the while Calypso Louie is openly embraced in the Windy City. A city with 150,000 gang members, Louie, Rahm, the Daleys, Blago, Ayers, Dorn, Rezco,and Obama, but CFA would threaten their neighborhood.

You can’t make this stuff up!

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Question to all:

What law, bill or act prohibits a business from employment discrimination on the basis of sexual orientation? Federal, state or local?

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Dusty

I am not the one “full of hate”. I am just pointing out those who are.
I am not gay, but I will defend their rights as if they are my own, because in the end…they are…

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Hillbilly D

Pardon my ignorance but, how will I know when my corn is ready for harvest?

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Inciteful

They may be telling the truth, but when your religion does not think lying to infidels is a sin, then people will always wonder about their truthfulness. Polygraph?

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First Baptist Church of Damascus?

Because we desperately want to be oh so much like the Syrians and other barbarians.

Enhanced interrogation, anyone?

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Hillbilly D, 5:46

How can you not forget the Dixie Chicks when you have eighty thousand Dixie chicks living next door? errr Nevermind. Just a thought before curfew time.

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I don’t think Chick-Fil-A discriminates against the LBGT community, if they did, they would not exist in Atlanta. However Mr. Cathy’s views are his own and he is entitled too them. As I read earlier, if there is disagreement with his viewpoints, its like a bad radio station (V103, oops I said that out loud??) just change the station. You DO NOT HAVE TO PATRONIZE THE ESTABLISHMENT. This is far more effective than trying to answer a blog post about it.

Just sayin’….

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What law, bill or act prohibits a business from employment discrimination on the basis of sexual orientation?

I don’t think there is one. All proposals have died for lack of support. Even when the Democrats were in the majority.

I’m not sure why that is. Maybe they’re covered under another law.

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1. Dan Cathy has a right to his beliefs and you can not fault that
2.He is not bashing homosexuals, he again just stated what he believes
3. Why is this being made into a homosexual cause—- people just jump at the chance to create a cause where there is not one—- they are creating hatred where there is none
4. Do the people who find fault with his views think that being heterosexual is wrong , as it sure sounds like it——– just remember without those bad heterosexuals you would not be here
5. this whole thing is a non issue———- Chick fil a runs a good, profitable, clean business in which people line up to buy their product. they close on Sunday because of their views—— that is admirable this day and age—— next the people complaining will have a problem with his religion and the fact that his company is responsible for the deaths of many chickens.

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They may be telling the truth, but when your religion does not think lying to infidels is a sin, then people will always wonder about their truthfulness. Polygraph?

It’s a good thing one of those Ten Commandments is “Thou Shalt Not Lie,” or we’d be in a world of hurt.

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Sheesh

Since you questioned my intelligence, I will post this, normally I do not like to do research for others.

http://www.suntimes.com/news/cityhall/13996951-418/rahm-welcomes-help-from-farrakahn-ignores-anti-semitic-remarks.html

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Build a Chick-fil-A in Midtown. I bet it will be packed just like the rest of them. Gay people are more tolerant than liberals.

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Dan Cathy has done more for the kids in Georgia and other states than anyone else. He does not discriminate on blacks, gays, or anyone regarding their religion. So – LEAVE THE MAN ALONE!
He is a good and honest man who happens to be a Christian and believes in God’s word and the Bible. He has just as much right to his belief and the queers, gays, whatever do to theirs. He simply stated he believes marriage should be between a man and a woman. SO? Good for him – and good for him that all of his restaurants are closed on Sundays…he holds true to his religion.
The gays, queers, should go find others who do discriminate against them – he is not one of them….
GET REAL !!!!

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Gay people are more tolerant than liberals.

Like gay people aren’t predominantly liberals???

More Republican logic…

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Kyle wrote…”But I have yet to see the first shred of evidence Chick-fil-A is actually discriminating against gay couples”

Dan Cathy kind of stuck his foot in his mouth a bit, but nowhere in those remarks does he say he is against gays. He says that he is a supporter of traditional marriage…he does not say he is in favor of treating gays in a discriminatory fashion. In fact Don Perry reiterated Chick-fil-A’s official stance almost immediately by publishing their policy…

“Chick-fli-a’s goal is “to treat every person with honor, dignity and respect — regardless of their belief, race, creed, sexual orientation or gender”

I know firsthand that they adhere to that policy and I think that they are being treated unfairly from both sides.

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I’m wonderin’ why liberals didn’t boycott Obama, who, during the campaign, said he believed marriage was between one man, one woman.

If only they had…

schnirt

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Up:

I’m in favor of consumer activism. Boycotts are more like terrorism…not very effective. They usually end up damaging the activists’ cause.

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…or image.

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Thanks for the reply. Can I assume that you area not in favor of the numerous companies that the American Family Association boycotts and urges their followers to boycott?

Personally I could careless who boycotts whom. Everyone has that right, just as the Cathys have a right to go public with their beliefs as individuals and a corporation.

I just think it is funny that many on both the left and right will cry when the issue doesn’t fit their ideology but are ok with the same exact thing when it meets their ideology / beliefs.

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On a positive note, I saw my buddy the groundhog twice (got a shot off at him once and missed!) but he’s leaving my garden alone.

Why do I have visions of Caddy Shack and Bill Murray dancing through my head………

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Prepare for the gates to shut down on the Wingfield blog . . . .!

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Up:

You may not assume. People are free to boycott. I just don’t think it accomplishes much.

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The notion that a government will deny a business license to a busisness becasuse that busienss has an opinion that a particular official disagrees with is unamerican and wrong. The left is just off the chain on this issue and it shows the degree to which under a lefist government, we are no longer a nation of laws, no longer a nation of freedom and liberty.

All the left has is the politics of division, intimidation and threats. Everytime you vote for a democrat, this is the kind of government that we get closer and closer to.

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Leave it to the intolerant tolerants to hold true on not being tolerant. I could see the outrage had Chik-fil-a said they weren’t going to serve a segment of society, but the outrage just because one voiced his beliefs shows the true intolerance of the so called tolerants,

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All that said, I really don’t see the inconsistency on my part. I never said gay-rights supporters shouldn’t be offended by what Cathy said, and I never said elected officials should respond to their offense with finger-wagging. I never said elected officials in NYC should reject the mosque, and I certainly didn’t say they should do so on the grounds of what the mosque-builders believe. As I wrote a few minutes ago: If asked, I would probably give Chick-fil-A the same advice about the wisdom of building something in a place where it might not be wanted, even if it’s their right to do so.

Kyle–I appreciate your detailed response to my earlier post. Sorry I couldn’t respond sooner, but was working.

On the surface, your position in the current Chick-fil-A controversy does seem to be consistent with your earlier position regarding the NYC mosque. In both cases, you clearly stated that public opinion should never trump Constitutional rights. The difference is revealed, however, in your seemingly consistent position that both organizations should base their decision to build or not to build in new areas based upon “sensitivity” to those who oppose them. In the case of Chick-fil-A, that is likely solid business advice, and I might have a similar opinion. No reason to start a business while bad feelings are in the air. In the case of the NYC mosque, however, I would likely have the opposite view, since religious freedom is such an important right in our country.

For anyone who missed Kyle’s original column regarding the mosque in NYC, here’s a link:

http://blogs.ajc.com/kyle-wingfield/2010/08/16/the-nyc-mosque-and-the-obama-two-step/

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Final post for Kyle: Please consider lifting the night time moderation. It is unfortunate that a few idiots can’t behave themselves, but you can remedy that situation by banning the flagrant violators of your rules. Thanks.

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If the Cathey family operated on the same terms as most of the people who are so quick to condemn them, they would pull up stakes and no longer let this society benefit from the millions of dollars they have poured into worthy, non-political causes to help all ages of people have a better life from childhood through compassionate death. I find it odd that nobody mentions their many good works, but, then, neither would they.

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So…for everyone who is protesting tasty Chick-Fil-A biscuits, and for those of you who have stated that the Truetts are ignorant and bigots, how many of you voted for Obama in 2008? Because you do realize that he stated that marriage was “between a man and a woman” many times during his campaign back then? Hmmm….hypocrites much?

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If this is really what’s important to America it’s no wonder we’re in deep water.

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There is NOTHING Christian about denying a person the basic rights of a family, legal recognition of their desired spouse or children. The word marriage is a legal term and a religious term. The Gay rights movement is tying to get the LEGAL portion of the term to apply to everyone, not just those who happen to believe in the Christian version of it. If Dan Cathy wants to “come out” as the leader of this business and make a statement that he surely new would be divisive and inflammatory, I am sure he and his advisors thought it through carefully, then he must have weighed the possible repercussions that he is now facing and thought it to be worth it. The article’s naive statement that he is unaware of anyone who has not been hired because they were gay is ridiculous. Chick-Fil_A asks your religion on their application and I am sure that if a gay man went in there and was truthful then he would not be hired.

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I agree with you Kyle. Liberals no longer understand the meaning of the word. Boycotting a business because of its founders political beliefs mean you have no understanding of the founding fathers. Its un-American. And many of these liberal bloggers are too ignorant and close-minded (rather ironic since that is what they claim conservatives are) to discern the difference between discrimination and not wanting to re-define a term. And he talked to the “Biblical Reporter.” Its not like he’s going on Nightline debating with Barney Frank.

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Sheep dog I wouldn’t call anyone a bigot if I were you – you fit the definition to a “T”.

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Chick-fil-A won’t loose any business–they will increase sales. When Chicago complains, it is a sick joke. They have a murder rate out of control, so many gangs that police can’t control them and they want to worry about same sex marraiges when they hve numerous fatherless kids. This appears to be some of that Democratic keep the entitlement society happy. What bothers is that our entitlement generations aren’t happy, they think they are entitled to more. When the scale tips we go from the Greatest Nation to just another confused country.

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All we see from this is how very intolerant and bigoted the liberals are in this country. You are allowed free speech, but only if it agrees with them. You can do business, but you have to do it the way they say or you’re wrong. If you believe something different from them, you are backwards, a “hater”, and you must be silenced at all costs. your rights and freedoms are not important unless you agree with them. That having been said, I think I’ll open the can of worms up a little wider…..

There is no discrimination under the law against gays. Gays are not treated any differently than normal people under the law in any way: there is no place that anyone here can name where that is happening. Don’t believe me? Just try. Straights and gays are treated EXACTLY the same under the law.

Now let’s see who is and is not intelligent enough to understand that. Let the games begin!

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Years ago homosexual behavior was considered a mental illness. The medical profession reconcidered and this behavior was declared simply an alternate lifestyle. At the onset of the AIDS fiasco several health options,including quarantine(such as TB and STD patients were confined)could not be used due to our Politically Correct Congress Federal Law protecting the homesexual lifestyle. This lifestyle has led to the deaths of a number approaching 30 MILLION PERSONS.

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Dan Cathy was wrong in one thing – he said “the company” was against gay marriage. Companies cannot have opinions, only people can. He is essentially saying ” I am Chik-fil-a and I am against gay marriage”. Fine. That is his opinion and he is welcome to it. I agree with you, Kyle, Boston and Chicago are WAY out of line.

On the other side, people are welcome to their opinions, too, so they can boycott or “buycott” all they want.

The only problem I have with Chik-fil-a is their habit of putting too much ice in their drinks. (Are you listening, Dan Cathy?)

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Look at what the liberals will be blaming on us when it collapses the economy-

Yes, believe it or not, the federal government is now starting another initiative to force banks to lend to low-credit-rated blacks and Hispanics — not just anybody but specifically blacks and Hispanics — and is threatening — and already collecting — huge punitive fines if they don’t. Moreover, this time they’re going even further. They’re going to take over the credit rating agencies and force them to change their standards to accommodate blacks and Hispanics so that nobody will have any idea who is a bad credit risk and who is not.

This will be Romney’s “fault-”

The principle instrument this time is not the Justice Department, Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, as it was last time, but the brand-new Consumer Finance Protection Bureau, designed by good old Elizabeth “Nobody-Ever-Made-It-On-Their-Own” Warren, which should really be called the Bureau for Bringing Down the Entire Economy.

It’s happening as we speak and do you think any lib will try to stop it?

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Good lord, what a bunch of butt-hurt morons. Facts are still fact, no matter how you twist it. CFA does not discriminate against anyone. Everyone is welcome to come in and enjoy a delicious sandwich. Most of you seem to look for reasons to be offended. What kind of life that must be, looking under rocks for people who offend you.

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Why does Bruno’s 8:14 p.m. go up and my nightly…

“Oh man!” (missed the cut-off) not?

I’m beginning to think Kyle doesn’t like me.

Oh man!

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I’m offended by how dry Chick-Fil-A’s biscuits are.

Put some butter on it.

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I heard something about a Chick-Fil-A store person that would not participate in some sort of prayer thing and lost his job. Has anyone else heard about that. I think I heard that it was out in Texas. Is there any truth to it.

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“Final post for Kyle: Please consider lifting the night time moderation. It is unfortunate that a few idiots can’t behave themselves, but you can remedy that situation by banning the flagrant violators of your rules. Thanks.”

But then Kyle wouldn’t have any “conservative” posters left here…

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Why horn size matters when picking a mate

Ever wondered how to pick the fittest mate? If you’re a rhino beetle, choose the male with the biggest horns.

A subtle comparison of men to beetles? A picture of two male beetles with their horns locked?

HIGHLY OFFENSIVE!

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I Report (-: You Whine )-: mmm, mmmm, mmmmm! Just sayin…

July 27th, 2012
7:40 am

REALLY?? Where do I apply???

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The problem isn’t what Dan Cathy said….for everyone agrees that he has the right to express himself; the issue actually is the use of corporate profits to support organizations that are AGAINST a constituency that SUPPORTS the corporation!! With Chick-Fil-A’s funding of corporations that are against gay Americans, they are basically biting the hands that feed them!! It’s similar to Molson /Coors and the John Birch Society…..

THAT’S the issue here!!

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Any state that elects Bernie Sanders and Patrick Lahey to the U.S. Senate (Vermont) has forfeited their right to complain about anything else.

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I cannot help it that I love and crave Chick-fil-A.

I was born that way.

L O L !

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Welcome to AMERICA where people can have their OWN opinions, donate to ANY group they choose, and NOT pander to the bullies who disagree. If you don’t like these rules, then you are UNAMERICAN. And buy some tissues.

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i like what dc said earlier in this blog:

“as usual, the supposedly tolerant are in fact the most intolerant folks of all. what a bunch of hypocrites”

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“the issue actually is the use of corporate profits to support organizations that are AGAINST a constituency that SUPPORTS the corporation!!”

Bogus. Keep reaching, though

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Tiberius: I think you need a xanax.

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I think it was a grerat move….their profits will probably soar! Gay folks have no problem ramming their agenda down otheres throats (no pun intended) yet when someone does not agree with them, all is wrong. You wanna really see the real sicko’s, see clips (’coz you won’t want to go) of a “pride” parade! And this is what folks are fighting for???

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Personally I could care less what the Chic Fil A said about gay marriages, it is there opinion. I am a gay but I will still be eating sandwiches there because of – the BEST Sandwiches & SUPERIOR CUSTOMER SERVICE!

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Would the left scream if a conservative mayor told a gay rights group they could not open shop because the group does not share the values of the mayor ? And how does beliving in Marriage between a man and woman homophobic ?

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More hatred, thug tactics and thought control from the left. What vile, angry and bitter people that cannot tolerate disagreement. The willingness for some democrats to use the power of the state to punish non conformance to their preferred politics is truly frightening.

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Up Up and Away,
Saw it on news…….reckon I’m too old, beacuse if this is what it is all about then Cathy was more than right….he was dead on!

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A reading of the wingnut comments on this blog refutes all of your whining ,crying, and swooning about how bitter and angry liberals are… funny stuff…

I’m just sayin’…

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Everyone who is up in arms about Chick-Fil-A does realize that Obama said the exact same thing in 2008? Yet, I bet you all still voted for him, and didn’t “protest” against him. You’re all just a bunch of hipocrites.

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It is amazing how many people (on the right and left) didn’t really read the article. Too many of the comments on this blog are about name calling and less about a real dialogue. In answer to the question of the article, government does not have the right to abn a company from operating a business that complies with all other state and federal regulations just because of their beliefs. For the rest of us, we have a simple choice. If you are aligned with Cathy’s beliefs, patronize his business. If you are not aligned with his beliefs, do not patronize his business.

I personally disagree with Mr. Cathy’s viewpoint and do not patronize his business. That is the proper to handle it.

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@@, you “evolved”???

Impressive, I was unaware that conservatives could do so. Maybe there is hope for us all…

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There is another choice (amazing) you can disagree with someone and still not have hatred in your heart to punish them. Why do you wish to punish every one that does not agree with your misguided and wrong opinion? Disagree but don’t hate. I don’t boycott everyone I disagree with. That is immature and childish.

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Steven from Tampa, you couldn’t be more wrong.

There are many ways to slow down (and a few even to stop) a business from being built, but they have to be LEGAL.

The excuse being used is that the mayors don’t like Cathy’s stance on an issue. THAT is discrimination, plain and simple, and THAT reason cannot be used to stop a Chick-Fil-A from being opened in ANY city.

Now, if they want to try to make life harder for one to open, they are certainly free to try, but they’d better be following their laws, or their city is going to be sued and will lose that suit.

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That Aug 1 gimmick shows just what ? Proves what to who ?

Its like selling soap powder to depressed housewifes watching the young and the restless with some emotioal groups.

When I go, its on my terms. That ain’t going to change.

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Those wanting to kissy face in Chick – Fil – A around my children aren’t going to be happy with my response. Have a little self respect for your self. Clean up your act. Grow up. Have respect for others.

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Sheepdog, you are entitled to exercise your freedom of speech, so why should Mr Cathy be any different….otherwise, if you don’t think he should, then you should do the same and shut up.

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“Others can correct me if I’m wrong, but for myself and others who are boycotting Chick-fil-a, this is about ACTIONS, not beliefs.”

OK, you’re wrong, Interested Observer.

That’s because Kyle was talking about the actions of government in his comment.

You are speaking about your own personal actions.

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Somebody is really obsessed with that Tennessee mosque . . .

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You have the right to be disgusting but not in front of my children. Open displays of affection are meant to be in your face and that will draw a response you won’t like. You are trying to incite confrontation and that is childish behavior.

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Don’t agree with Cathy, but I certainly support his right to have an opinion. I’ll still eat there; it’s delicious!

Voice of Reason–The truth is that no two people will ever agree on every position in life. Remembered this joke for you by Emo Philips:

“Once I saw a guy on a bridge about to jump. I said ‘Don’t do it!’ He said, ‘Nobody loves me.’ I said, ‘God loves you. Do you believe in God?’ He said ‘Yes.’ I said, ‘Are you a Christian or a Jew?’ He said ‘A Christian.’ I said, ‘Me too! Protestant or Catholic?’ He said, ‘Protestant.’ I said, ‘Me too! What denomination?’ He said, ‘Baptist.’ I said, ‘Me too! Northern Baptist or Southern Baptist?’ He said ‘Northern Baptist.’ I said, ‘Me too! Northern Conservative Baptist or Northern Liberal Baptist?’ He said, ‘Northern Conservative Baptist.’ I said, ‘Me too! Northern Conservative Baptist Great Lakes Region or Northern Conservative Baptist Eastern Region?’ He said ‘Northern Conservative Baptist Great Lakes Region.’ I said, ‘Me too! Northern Conservative Baptist Great Lakes Region Council of 1879 or Northern Conservative Baptist Great lakes Region Council of 1912?’ He said, ‘Northern Conservative Baptist Great lakes Region Council of 1912.’

I said ‘Die, heretic!’ and pushed him over the edge.”

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Chick – Fil – A has the best fast food any where. Just because you don’t like their opinion you don’t have to slander their food. Your dishonesty sux.

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If you don’t agree with someone, whine, cry, rant, pout – take your marbles and go home. Next year you will try to be more adult like?

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I Report (-: You Whine )-: mmm, mmmm, mmmmm! Just sayin…

July 27th, 2012
9:51 am
“Easy, sport.

If you apply now, chances are the bank is going to want you to make the payments….”

I wouldn’t mind that IF I could get the LOAN!!

Remember…the banks and credit agencies already have things so screwed up, you don’t know what you NEED to get the loan……

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Here’s my list:
1. Freedom of speech – not in question here. The Cathy family gets to do and say what they want within the letter of the law. The result: others’ rights to react to their ignorance by answering. Call them… consequences.
2. Fascism: pumping millions of dollars into causes that have NOTHING to do with making chicken sandwiches (not from personal funds, mind you, but from corporate funds), but rather with the intent of denying rights given by our GOVERNMENT to a certain group of citizens. Wrapping it in an American flag and pinning a cross to it doesn’t change what it is.
3. Separation of church and state: If you subscribe to a set of faith-based beliefs, and actively seek to impose said set of beliefs through laws (which the last time I checked were the responsibilities of legislatures who are SUPPOSED to operate in the interest of ALL citizens, not just the Christian ones), that is a clear blurring of the lines.
4. Freedom of Religion: Prohibiting my right to marry and love whom I choose is NOT part of exercising YOUR religious freedom. Allowing me that right in no way compromises your religious freedom. Allowing me to love and marry the person of my choosing will require NOTHING on anyone’s part. You and yours will not be required to do anything except exercise the same tolerance that I exercise everyday in allowing you to love and marry whom you choose, and that is exercised by all people of differing faiths and political beliefs in this country.
5. Labels: branding someone a leftist liberal or a right wing nut is a convenient way of dismissing that which you don’t understand. It is an act of hardening your brain so you don’t have to deal with the facts of a situation. It also is a sign of black and white thinking – a clear marker of fear and stupidity. The world is NOT black and white. Retreating to a polar position is a convenient way of not having to wrestle with big and difficult things. It also helps the strong control the weak (see Fascism).
Homosexuality as sin: If it were so simple to “pray the gay away”, then there wouldn’t be a single gay person in this world. Try coming to grips with being gay in this culture. The conclusion every gay person has to come to: no matter how hard you pray, God does not find it necessary to fix what isn’t broken.

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G.I. Joe: if your response involves contacting me or anyone else in any way through physical violence, then I hope you are prepared to meet my .45 that I am licensed to carry. I’m fully able and trained for self-protection and not afraid to do so. Keep your rugrats at home if you’re that scared.

So tell me, where is the outrage when Baptists boycott dozens and dozens of businesses that don’t bow down to their beliefs? Would you say blacks are being intolerant of the KKK? How about Jews being intolerant of neo-NAZIs? It really is humorous when the majority starts whining when a minority that they have persecuted for centuries begins to fight back. Sucks to be you. Get used to it because we are not going away, we’re not going to hide, we’re not going to shut up and sit down. You can either learn to live with us being out and open or you can sit home and whine and beat your chest like an ape on some anonymous forum.

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“but rather with the intent of denying rights given by our GOVERNMENT”

Epic fail, Steve.

Rights are not given by government, but rather are safeguarded by government.

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A reading of the wingnut comments on this blog refutes all of your whining ,crying, and swooning about how bitter and angry liberals are… funny stuff…

@@, you “evolved”???

Impressive, I was unaware that conservatives could do so. Maybe there is hope for us all…

Am I the only one who sees the irony of someone who calls himself “Rightwing Troll” defending liberals against the charge that they are bitter and angry?? I’m guessing the guy doesn’t have any mirrors in his house.

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Kyle

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steve – Chick – Fil – A is a corporation but is PRIVATELY owned and is not listed on the stock market. They have the right to do what they want with THEIR money. You leftists think it’s your money but it isn’t…….. you have that Obama “redistribute the wealth” attitude tattooed on your brain. It’s their money. Do I have to explain the free enterprise system to you?

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Oblama

Their right (and it is their right) to make the stand they did does not preclude them from any consequences, good or bad.

I agree that the statements on the mayors was stupid, but once again, they have the right to say what they did, but not the right to say there will be no consequences.

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Oblama: You leftists think it’s your money but it isn’t

Would you please tell us which leftist thinks Dan Cathy’s money is his or her money? I’ve only ever spent my own money at one of his establishments, and was not aware that I had the option to spend someone else’s instead. Could you elaborate?

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Edward – The threats of violence appear to be coming from you.

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Good point. Sad thing is that many on both sides are unwilling to do so. However as you mentioned, those who do usually find some common threads to get past the barriers.

As I mentioned earlier, Up, you and I probably have a lot in common even though we appear to be on opposite sides of the political fence. One difference we may have, though, is our level of politeness in dealing with religious phonies like “Obama is Over”. You win in that department.

I will also agree with you that there seems to be a critical difference in tone between Kyle’s Chick-fil-A column and his previous columns on the NYC mosque. It’s pretty obvious to me where his sympathies lie regarding those two situations, even though he ultimately does support the Constitution in both cases. Which, of course, is his prerogative as an opinion writer.

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Edward you really need to calm down with the threats or you will be monitored for content. Just show a little decency and respect for others. We don’t want anyone kissing and groping in public – gay or strait.

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Actually Kyle there are six of us sharing this computer and I can assure you we are not all the same but we are basically in agreement on this subject. We all live in this apartment complex and get together to blog, play poker, watch football, etc. Is there a rule against more than one person using the same computer? It’s fun responding to these nut cases on here and best of all is cheap entertainment. Some of us are poor college students going to UGA.

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I will be having a chicken sandwhich every day next week. Stand by your beliefs CFLA

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Kyle

Even though you replied to Bruno, that’s what I was attempting to convey yesterday. Maybe my wording was not as precise as it should have been. All in all, I still gave you a B minus.

Thank you

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I have to admit that hypocrisy can be found on both “sides” depending on the issue, but it comes from quite a few on the left on this issue. “Hollywood” has certainly weighed in against CFA, but was nowhere to be found prior to the President’s evolution…….

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Wouldn’t this be a pretty bizarre world if we were expected to examine each case by every other mildly analogous one, and express our sympathies — again, not reach conclusions but express sympathies — according to consistency with the other cases rather than what we believe in the present one?

Again, Kyle, the reason I am critical of you for your lack of support for the NYC mosque is due to the vital role that freedom of religion played in forming our country. There are no litmus tests contained in the non-Establishment clause, most certainly not “sensitivity” to protestors feelings. As a professed lover of the Constitution, I would have been more pleased to see you take the high road and offer to help build the foundation for that mosque, rather than using your bully pulpit to express your offense.

Perhaps you can help me understand where you are coming from a little better by explaining why you were offended by the proposed mosque?? Do you believe that all Muslims speak with one voice??

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Emanual said that chickfila’s values are not chicago’s values… yikes, is he trying to insult chickfila or compliment them? i consider that a compliment!

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Kyle, thank you for responding. You do not honestly think they will come up with some reason? I have found, personally, if someone does not want a certain business in their community, they will trump up things to keep the business away. Wal-Mart was denied the license and zoning, even though the wetlands was 1/2 mile away. The ends justify the means. Wal-Mart could have argued with the city on the matter, but they do not own the land, the city does. Trust me, Boston, Chicago and any other city or county will come up with a reason why they will deny the permit or license, as well as the zoning. Can a restaurant be denied a license or permit based on the said owner’s personal beliefs? Sure thing. The city or county attorney can just dress up as another reason.

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“Trust me, Boston, Chicago and any other city or county will come up with a reason why they will deny the permit or license, as well as the zoning. Can a restaurant be denied a license or permit based on the said owner’s personal beliefs? Sure thing. The city or county attorney can just dress up as another reason.”

This might have been true if several mayors had not stupidly and publicly announced they were not going to allow Chick-fil-a to operate within their cities in response to what Cathy said. There is no plausible deniability now and, if such a thing were attempted, these cities would stand to lose a huge amount of money in lawsuits. Even such diverse liberal entities as the ACLU, the LA Times and Mother Jones have come out against such an ill advised policy.

I personally think Emanuel’s (a rather ironic surname given his views) statements reflect very badly upon the judgement of president Obama, since he was one of his closest advisers.

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Chick-fil-A will face my wrath!

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Chik-fil-A will be firebombed!

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You will be buried!

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Chick-fil-A is dirty republican food!

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Typical conservative talking point, Gulliver. Thanks, you took the bait. Hook, line, and stinker and boy does that reek to high heaven. No matter how much President Obama is not involved in something, you have to land it back on him. Emanuel is the mayor of Chicago, period. What happens in his city has his final say. Just like what happens in Tampa has Mayor Bob Buckhorn’s final say, which a Chick Fil A wanted to build a restaurant at the intersection of Kennedy and Howard. The problem is a historic building stands at the intersection and some chicken shack wanted to tear it town. The mayor did not like it and turned it down. Even with the outstanding issues that both mayors stated, they can revert to things like the areas have historic prestige, there can be traffic concerns, the environmental impacts of having the business can be detrimental to everyone, and/or the area may not be receptive to the type of business that may be there.

PS The intersection of Howard and Kennedy has two gas stations and two empty areas of land. Nothing historical about it, but Chick Fil A is probably so stupid that they do not even realize that.

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A lot of people miss the point about this issue. I am appalled by Mr Carey’s support of Anti gay issues. however I’m NOT trying to silence him… Indeed I hope he continues to vocally support his position so as many people as possible know what a hateful bigot he is. We shouldn’t keep quiet when someone fights against civil rights. If he were expressing support for an anti-semitic group, or a white-power group or supporting a group opposed to Medicare spending, or made hateful comments about disabled people there would be riots. Many people still think it’s ok to hate gay people, but in a time when over half the population thinks they ought to get the civil rights they are asking for they aren’t getting away with it any more. And it ain’t gonna change so get used to it. We aren’t going back into our closets any more than black people are going back to the cotton fields.

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It is shocking and surprising that an officer of Chic-fil-A would make such a statement. It in most cases against company policy. Not only that it is stupid and it can not be administered. He sounds like a person that had been molested in his young days. He is sick and should be dealt with accordingly.

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One of the biggest problems we face today is a lack of jobs. Think about what a Chic Fil A Resaturant can do for employment opportunities in Chicago and Boston. We are talking everything from clearing the land, to construction of the building, and then the man power to staff the restaurant once it is open.
America was founded upon Christian beliefs and we were given freedom to worship and freedom of speech.
When people make a lifestyle CHOICE, there can be criticism. CFA is not predjudice, but are expressing their Christain beliefs.
I have seen the quote on this from Billy Graham who is one of the most repected Mismisters anywhere and who opposes same sex marraige.
I am interested in hearing from the likes of Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton on thier beliefs on same sex marriage. As ministers and beleiver in the Bible, they should oppose this, but as backers of President Obama, I wonder what their postion is!!!!!!!!
I live in a small city in south GA and our CFA is always slammed. If they do not want one in Chicago or Boston, we will take another one around a few miles away. I am sure it would do well and if a gay person who is qualifed for employement applied, I am sure he would be conisdered for a postion. I also doubt gay couples would be turned away for service.

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Edward July 27th 8:02 pm

So, since boycotting is a good thing after all, I guess the Baptists had it right. Did you ever call THEM hypocrites?

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Mr Cathy and his family has the right to privately express his views, but any CEO or President of a company expresses them on the media, then you create a firestorm. For those who say being gay is a choosen lifestyle, might want to think again. I am been gay all my life (60 years), and do you think I would want to choose the lifestyle of being gay and being spit on, beat up in school and then people who say they are so called christians calling me names, and hate. Do you really think I chose this? think again, and for those that say some gay people are cured to become straight.think again…so many have secret lives…just check the internet, you will catch them there.
Also please research where the meaning of marriage comes from and its history. It is a contract, you get your certificate at a government office, then if a church wants to marry you they can either go ahead with it or deny it. I know its not legal in Georgia, but my partner of 15 years and I got married 3 years ago in a state that does allow it. Why you say, because we have been in a committed relationship for over a decade, live next door to neighbors who are not gay and married and we have not destroyed their marriage. We hope one day Georgia rethinks, as I would love to be able to have the same rights as my straight married friends to be able to have legal rights to make decisions on my partner and he on me for medical, life and death situations, etc which we dont right now. Think about it, you and your partner not able to make decisions in time of life or death because the state says you cant.

I feel again that what ever side of the debate you are on, one thing is true, yes you have the right to say what you feel, but if you are in charge of a large company, you might want to say that in private settings as to affect your company. Going to the media, no matter how large or small will make your views associated with your company.

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