I mentioned in a brief comment yesterday that Mitt Romney has to do more than attack President Obama’s record if he’s to win this election. He has to convince voters he’s a credible alternative they can trust with the job.
I planned to expound on that thought in a future blog post, but Sean Trende of Real Clear Politics beat me to the punch.
Trende begins his piece — worth reading in its entirety — by noting some key findings of a recent Pew poll:
Specifically, Trende writes, among the voters most likely to still be making up their minds, independents,
… 42 percent say they want to know more about his record as governor, 37 percent want to know more about his record as CEO of Bain Capital, and 35 percent want to know more about his tax returns. Just 21 percent of independents want to know more about his wealth, 19 percent want to know more about his family and upbringing, and 16 percent want to know more about his religious beliefs.”
This, Trende explains, is indicative of the kind of election which is a referendum on the incumbent. In such contests, he says, voters ask themselves two questions: “First, do I want the president to be re-elected? Second, is the challenger so unacceptable that I simply can’t bring myself to vote for him?”
Almost all voters have made up their minds about Obama, so question 2 is clearly in play at this point. And yet, the Romney campaign is spending almost its time and money attacking Obama rather than explaining who Romney is — leaving it to the Obama campaign to define Romney on its own. Negatively, of course.
Trende theorizes that Obama’s negative ads may not have moved the needle in opinion polls yet because undecided voters are waiting to hear what Romney has to say about himself.
Right or wrong about that last point — I’m not really sure — Trende is spot-on correct about the rest in my view. Pointing out that the economy is still stagnant is fine, but it’s inadequate. Romney has to explain who he is, what he wants to do, and how the former proves he can accomplish the latter.
There will be opportunities to do that: The Republican Party’s convention late next month will (or should) be a time for the GOP to burnish Romney’s image and tell his story. The question is whether he can wait until Labor Day to begin defining himself. I tend to think not.
– By Kyle Wingfield
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Finn McCool (The System isn't Broken; It's Fixed)
July 25th, 2012
12:52 pm
He likes to bully people. Not much else you need to know.
It’s “the meek shall inherit the earth”, not the a-wipe shall inherit the earth.
I Report (-: You Whine )-: mmm, mmmm, mmmmm! Just sayin...
July 25th, 2012
12:53 pm
If you want to put Amerika to sleep, talk about yourself.
If you want them to stand on the sofa and snort like pigs, talk about the other guy.
We are a WWF awaiting the start of the next Idol episode.
How do you think we wound up with obozo?
I Report (-: You Whine )-: mmm, mmmm, mmmmm! Just sayin...
July 25th, 2012
12:54 pm
We are a WWF (nation) awaiting the start of the next Idol episode.
geez
I Report (-: You Whine )-: mmm, mmmm, mmmmm! Just sayin...
July 25th, 2012
12:56 pm
aahhh, Finn found a new word. And he’s playin with it. How many posts will he incorporate it into today?
Drinking game, anybody?
Steve
July 25th, 2012
12:56 pm
A good man does nothing,
Yet leaves nothing undone.
A foolish man is always doing,
Yet much remains to be done.
Lao Tsu
Streetracer
July 25th, 2012
1:01 pm
As I understand it, Romney can only use funds donated for the primaries at this point. He has had to spend so much defending aginst negative ads that he really can’t do much positive right now. Wait until he is the official nominee and see what he has to say then.
curious
July 25th, 2012
1:08 pm
Romney loves this country so much, he didn’t go to France handing out leaflets no one wanted, instill in his Sons the same love when we had and still have men and women fighting and dying in Afghanistan, or not seeking out tax havens (legal, I guess, but an indication of who comes first) .
Romney will be smart NOT to talk about himself.
Kyle Wingfield
July 25th, 2012
1:09 pm
Streetracer: I know he didn’t run many positive ads in the primary, but nothing says he can’t do that.
Bruno
July 25th, 2012
1:10 pm
“Bruno
July 25th, 2012
11:35 am
Kyle–As our blog leader, could you possibly develop a column along those lines?? Just my uninformed opinion, but I don’t believe that Romney has run an effective campaign so far. Maybe some of the Lefties could chime in to tell us how Romney might possibly improve his message.”
Man–I didn’t know that i had that kind of pull around here. Only took Kyle about 1 hr to write his column after I requested it.
Kyle Wingfield
July 25th, 2012
1:13 pm
LOL Bruno. I checked on the comment thread while I was working on that and felt certain you’d be happy with this one!
gadem
July 25th, 2012
1:16 pm
He can talk about his tax havens….or his years of business experience (he can include those years that he was getting paid but wasn’t there though) To clear things up, we would like to see his tax returns so that we know exactly when he stopped getting paid a salary from Bain.
Streetracer
July 25th, 2012
1:16 pm
Kyle @ 1:09
I was talking more about the general campaign than the primaries. Attacks on Bain etc.
Finn McCool (The System isn't Broken; It's Fixed)
July 25th, 2012
1:16 pm
Mormon (cultist)
Pro-choice
Blueprint creator for ACA
Acts officially as Sole owner, operator, and CEO of a company that he totally denies working for
Bully
Likes his trees all the right height
Cheesy grits aficionado
….. more to come
MadMax
July 25th, 2012
1:18 pm
Personally, I like the Obama ads; reminds me that Romney has been successful and the guy introducing the ads comes off as something between a pimp and a politician. “I’m Barack Obama and I approve of this sleaze!”
I Report (-: You Whine )-: mmm, mmmm, mmmmm! Just sayin...
July 25th, 2012
1:18 pm
At this point, Romney should become a mummy or make like the Sphinx, put a sock in it, stifle hisself.
obozo has like 50 more radical kook fringe groups that he needs to hit up for money, his only remaining sources in fact, and he’s bound to say at least 45 more idiotic things that the RNC can flame him with.
Let’s put Romney in the box for now.
md
July 25th, 2012
1:20 pm
“He likes to bully people. Not much else you need to know.”
Have something to back that up or is it just bully speech?
Shine
July 25th, 2012
1:21 pm
He sure does need to talk. We want to see his tax records. We want to know why he hides money offshore untaxed and thinks he and his cronies dont need to pay more taxes to help pay for the U.S. military that they use as bodyguards around the globe. Pretty good think these offshore traitors have….everybody gets stuck with paying for their protection except themsleves.
getalife
July 25th, 2012
1:21 pm
The attack ads against willard are working.
What is willard hiding in his tax forms?
White collar crime? Drug money laundering?
Our country can’t take another gop disaster like w or nixon.
Four more years!
Country first!
Class of '98
July 25th, 2012
1:24 pm
Don’t worry, Kyle. Nobody reads Rear Clear Polictics. You shouldn’t have mentioned it.
tiredofIT
July 25th, 2012
1:25 pm
Star of Romney ‘My Hands Didn’t Build This’ Ad Received Millions in Government Loans and Contracts
Gilchrist Metal, “received $800,000 in tax-exempt revenue bonds issued by the New Hampshire Business Finance Authority ‘to set up a second manufacturing plant and purchase equipment to produce high definition television broadcasting equipment’…” In addition, in 2011, Gilchrist Metal “received two U.S. Navy sub-contracts totaling about $83,000 and a smaller, $5,600 Coast Guard contract in 2008…”
The businessman, Jack Gilchrist, also acknowledged that in the 1980s the company received a U.S. Small Business Administration loan totaling “somewhere south of” $500,000, and matching funds from the federally-funded New England Trade Adjustment Assistance Center.
From: http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2012/07/star-of-romney-my-hands-didnt-build-this-ad-received-millions-in-government-loans-and-contracts/
MadMax
July 25th, 2012
1:25 pm
Oh look, it’s getalife – just cruising around all day spouting his canned lines into the blogs just waiting for his savior to send him another gov’t check and for B’man to come back.
hsn
July 25th, 2012
1:25 pm
He can’t because he will have to address why he is not releasing at least, 5 years of his tax returns..
Bain will be the bane of his campaign !
md
July 25th, 2012
1:27 pm
“Almost all voters have made up their minds about Obama, so question 2 is clearly in play at this point.”
And from what I hear from pollsters, this tends to explain how the poll numbers really work….or at least have worked in the past.
The statement is correct that folks have made up their minds about Obama and the current 40%+ in favor may very well be all that he gets. Past polls indicate that if one was in favor they would stay in favor and those not sure tend to vote for the other guy. Which is what happened with Reagan, the undecided went with the other guy in a landslide.
maybe history really does repeat itself………
MadMax
July 25th, 2012
1:29 pm
Tiredofit – but unlike Solyndra, he created taxpaying jobs.
Streetracer
July 25th, 2012
1:29 pm
Steve @ 12:56
Never was much interested in Eastern philosophy. To much of it can be interputed anyway the reader wants. I prefer Plato, Kant, etc. One can argue about specifics of meaning, but not the general direction.
But, from my father who graduated high school in the middle of the Kansas dust bowl, this might be apt. ” Ain’t a horse can”t be rode, and ain’t a rider can’t be throwed”. Think about all the impliccations of that as it relates to your quote.
getalife
July 25th, 2012
1:30 pm
mad,
“UK economy shrinks dramatically; longest double-dip recession in more than 50 years…”drudgey
If we listened to Kyle and his failed party’s austerity argument, we would be like England.
You cons are never right about anything and want another collapse.
Think country first not party first.
We can’t have another collapse.
Bruno
July 25th, 2012
1:31 pm
I checked on the comment thread while I was working on that and felt certain you’d be happy with this one!
Thanks, Kyle!!
Of course, I’m part of the group of voters who have already made up their minds. Though Romney’s record as Gov of Massachusetts wasn’t stellar, Obama’s record as President of the US has been nothing short of a disaster. Hate to be forced to pick between the lesser of two evils like that, but that’s the reality this election cycle.
md
July 25th, 2012
1:32 pm
“We want to know why he hides money offshore untaxed and thinks he and his cronies dont need to pay more taxes to help pay for the U.S. military that they use as bodyguards around the globe.”
And this type nonsense is why the country is so screwed up. Obama leads a department called the IRS……think if there was something truly sinister going on the IRS wouldn’t be aware of it?
And think a White House that has a tendency to leak National Security information would keep it quite?
md
July 25th, 2012
1:35 pm
“If we listened to Kyle and his failed party’s austerity argument, we would be like England.”
Vs being like Greece, Spain, Portugal, and Ireland??
Austerity is the RESULT of spending too much silly……..
getalife
July 25th, 2012
1:35 pm
“Obama’s record as President of the US has been nothing short of a disaster.”
Bruno,
Prove this.
getalife
July 25th, 2012
1:37 pm
md,
You don’t cut after a collapse silly.
Our President won this argument so we have growth.
Your party lost 9 million jobs silly.
@@
July 25th, 2012
1:38 pm
35 percent want to know more about his tax returns. Just 21 percent of independents want to know more about his wealth,
A bit of a contradiction ^^^ there.
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I was reading an article at The Daily Beast. While Obama may see hisself as exceptional, many Americans believe that it’s America that’s exceptional. Based on past comments, Obama thinks otherwise.
President Obama has a complicated history with American exceptionalism. Back in 2009, he created some controversy when he sent mixed signals on the subject. On the one hand, he appeared to belittle the idea, saying, “I believe in American exceptionalism, just as I suspect that the Brits believe in British exceptionalism and the Greeks believe in Greek exceptionalism.” But in those same remarks, he also said, “I think that we have a core set of values that are enshrined in our Constitution, in our body of law, in our democratic practices, in our belief in free speech and equality, that, though imperfect, are exceptional.”
Since that time, Obama has clearly stated that he believes in American exceptionalism. Still, Romney—who wrote a book titled, No Apology: The Case for American Greatness—has tried to use the issue to score political points against Obama. “Our president doesn’t have the same feelings about American exceptionalism that we do,” Romney said in March. “And I think over the last three or four years, some people around the world have begun to question that.” Soon after, Obama fired back: “It’s worth noting,” he said, “that I first arrived on the national stage with a speech at the Democratic Convention that was entirely about American exceptionalism and that my entire career has been a testimony to American exceptionalism.”
Touchy, ain’t he?
The Gallup poll from 2010 asked respondents whether they thought that Obama believed America was the greatest country in the world. That number was 86 percent for Ronald Reagan, 77 percent for Bill Clinton, and 74 percent for George W. Bush. Obama’s score? Just 58 percent.
getalife
July 25th, 2012
1:39 pm
I think willard’s refusal to show the people his papers was a fatal error of his campaign.
A self inflicted defeat.
Auntie Christ
July 25th, 2012
1:40 pm
This should help capture the blue collar vote, it will establish romney’s connection to the working man:
“Dressage cost Romney $77,000 in 2010, money that was spent on the feeding and care of Ann Romney’s co-owned horse, Rafalca, which will compete in the summer Olympics. The Romneys were able to declare the expenses as a tax-deductible loss.
This amount is considerably more than what the average American household earned in 2010—$49,445, according to the U.S. Census Bureau.”
I wonder how many jobs this has created?
md
July 25th, 2012
1:46 pm
“You don’t cut after a collapse silly.
Our President won this argument so we have growth.”
Hate to break the news, but we still have 16 trillion in debt, losing 1.5 trillion yearly, have benn downraded once with basically no action taken, and are on the brink of a possible recession.
Spending has consequences…….especially if it doesn’t work.
Again, see Greece or Spain. Think they have any control over the interest rates that are currently killing them??
Our rates go up and Katie bar the door as all hell will break lose………
md
July 25th, 2012
1:50 pm
Pretty sad when folks start posting talking points related to medical expenses and then taking a victory lap.
If I ever have someone in my family get MS and need to spend biggy bucks to treat it any way I can, I sure hope those that complain about it end up in the same position…………
getalife
July 25th, 2012
1:52 pm
md,
Lost 9 million jobs vs steady job growth.
No contest.
Country first.
Four more years.
md
July 25th, 2012
1:53 pm
Funny, some attack medical expenses but many are strangely quiet on this part of the aca:
“The “Special Needs Kids Tax” takes effect Jan. 1, 2011: This provision of Obamacare imposes a cap on flexible spending accounts (FSAs) of $2500 (Currently, there is no federal government limit). There is one group of FSA owners for whom this new cap will be particularly cruel and onerous: parents of special needs children. There are thousands of families with special needs children in the United States, and many of them use FSAs to pay for special needs education. Tuition rates at one leading school that teaches special needs children in Washington, D.C. (National Child Research Center) can easily exceed $14,000 per year.”
Auntie Christ
July 25th, 2012
1:53 pm
I’m waiting for Obama’s ad to come out showing romney speaking to the American Olympians at the start of the 2002 games that they didn’t get there alone, their communities built the venues, their coaches made sacrifices, their athletic associations guided them, etc etc.
Yet when Obama speaks of entrepreneurs having the same sort of support from tax payer funded schools, infrastructure, and tax incentives, it is somehow insulting to the business people of America.
Lewis Black did this segment on Jon Stewart last night, and as he said, according to romney, building your business is a solitary endeavor, yet running a 4 minute mile, it takes a village Unfortunately the tea people and other Obama haters just don’t understand the definition of hypocrisy.
Bruno
July 25th, 2012
1:57 pm
Bruno,
Prove this.
Look no further than ObamaCare and the massive debt we now have with basically nothing to show for it. Add in the extreme personal/political divide we are now experiencing, and I think the “disaster” label is accurate.
curious
July 25th, 2012
1:59 pm
About the only thing Romney can accuse Obama of being guilty of, that Romney himself is not quilty of is:
Obama is only half white.
md
July 25th, 2012
2:00 pm
Job growth? Merely spinning our wheels………..
“June’s employment report from the BLS said the economy added 80,000 jobs (+84,000 in private sectors, -4,000 in government jobs) in June. The unemployment rate is unchanged at 8.2% from May, while the U-6 under-employment rate rose 0.1% from May to 14.9% (in 2007, the rate was 8%). The jobless rate has stuck above 8% for over three years since February 2009, the longest such stretch on record since 1948.
Even though the total employed jumped by 128,000, the jobless rate remained the same, primarily because the labor force increased by a larger 189,000. That is not a good sign when the labor force is growing faster than job growth, as it suggests the unemployment rate could hit higher if the trend continues. Out of the total unemployed, 41.9% or 5.4 million is trapped in the long-term unemployed category (jobless for 27 weeks and over), while growth in private payrolls was the weakest in 10 months.”
Auntie Christ
July 25th, 2012
2:02 pm
md @ 150 pm: If I ever have someone in my family get MS and need to spend biggy bucks to treat it any way I can, I sure hope those that complain about it end up in the same position…
The deduction was taken as a “business loss” not a medical expense. Get your facts before you criticize. But since you claim dressage is good therapy for MS, please join me in urging congress to allow MS sufferers to obtain dressage horses and all their accouterments under the ACA. While we’re at it I think my expenses for dog food, vet, and pet grooming should be deductible since without my dog, I would likely be very lonely and clinically depressed.
@@
July 25th, 2012
2:02 pm
Auntie:
Uncle Sam Will Help Buy YOU an Alpaca, then, YOU TOO can receive a tax break.
md
July 25th, 2012
2:05 pm
“Yet when Obama speaks of entrepreneurs having the same sort of support from tax payer funded schools, infrastructure, and tax incentives, it is somehow insulting to the business people of America.”
Yet the irony of that statement is that a business had to be created to fund all those items mentioned……
Auntie Christ
July 25th, 2012
2:05 pm
md @ 200 pm: Job growth? Merely spinning our wheels
Better than going full speed reverse when bush gave us losses of 800K per month. I’ll take job GROWTH any day of any sort, over losing 800K/Mo
I Report (-: You Whine )-: mmm, mmmm, mmmmm! Just sayin...
July 25th, 2012
2:07 pm
PRINCETON, NJ — Democrats are significantly less likely now (39%) than they were in the summers of 2004 and 2008 to say they are “more enthusiastic about voting than usual” in the coming presidential election. Republicans are more enthusiastic now than in 2008, and the same as in 2004.
I’m surprised they still admit to being dummycrats. Some people have no shame! Buncha little Julias they are.
@@
July 25th, 2012
2:08 pm
It really is time to reform our tax code. As long as the giveaways exist there will be rich and poor alike to take advantage of them.
Slick Rick
July 25th, 2012
2:08 pm
It’s hard to explain who and what you are when who and what you are is nothing more than a pile of disingenuousness nothingness and when your “core convictions” are whatever you think they need to be to get yourself elected for the election in question.
Not to mention the difficulty of saying who and what you are today when tomorrow you’ll just etch-a-sketch it in favor of something and someone different.
Catch 22? You betcha.
md
July 25th, 2012
2:09 pm
“The deduction was taken as a “business loss” not a medical expense”
Incorrect…..it is a business deduction for the care of a medical expense. yes, please do get your facts correct.
H.G. Pennypacker
July 25th, 2012
2:09 pm
We’ve given you people have all you need to know.
Ann Romney
H.G. Pennypacker
July 25th, 2012
2:10 pm
We’ve given you people all you need to know.
Ann Romney
(typo)
Auntie Christ
July 25th, 2012
2:11 pm
md…again. Yet the irony of that statement is that a business had to be created to fund all those items mentioned…
I don’t care to argue whether the chicken or the egg came first, but please go ponder it. It will be a better use of your time than the comments you post here.
Slick Rick
July 25th, 2012
2:12 pm
md – Austerity has consequences, too. See Great Britain, now officially in its second recession in the past ~4 years. To be contrasted with ‘Merica and its stimuli which have produced growth ranging from poor to fair to good, but all the while growth nonetheless. You think conservatives will put 2 and 2 together? I don’t. I think they’ll say it equals negative 5.
md
July 25th, 2012
2:13 pm
“Better than going full speed reverse when bush gave us losses of 800K per month.”
More of the it’s Bush’s fault baloney. As I said before, had the dems not blocked his reform of Fannie and Freddie, would we even of had all those losses??
It’s a double edged sword as we’ll never know. But to even try to put all the blame on bush shows a lack of honesty.
Auntie Christ
July 25th, 2012
2:17 pm
But to even try to put all the blame on bush shows a lack of honesty.
Who’s blaming? I just stated facts. You’re doing the blaming, saying Obama is the reason only 90K jobs/Mo are created. I merely pointed out a truth, that when Obama took office we were bleeding 800K a month
md
July 25th, 2012
2:18 pm
“I don’t care to argue whether the chicken or the egg came first, but please go ponder it. It will be a better use of your time than the comments you post here.”
I don’t blame you, I wouldn’t want to argue a losing case either………
Gov’t was born of money from business…..it’s impossible to do it the other way around in a capitalistic system.
Kyle Wingfield
July 25th, 2012
2:20 pm
getalife: What austerity?
md
July 25th, 2012
2:24 pm
“Who’s blaming?”
“when bush gave us losses of 800K per month.”
“Gave” being the operative word……..and had his reform gone through, do you think “his” policy might have made a difference???
If you want to use “gave”, one may want to insert “democrats” there considering it was them that “gave” us an un-reformed Fannie and Freddie……correct??
gadem
July 25th, 2012
2:24 pm
all I want to know is where is the jobs IF tax cuts create jobs, then where are the jobs. Taxes were cut a decade ago. What are the business leaders doing with ALL of that money? Someone ain’t being truthful…
curious
July 25th, 2012
2:25 pm
“We’ve given you people all you need to know”.
Ann Romney
That statement in itself says it all: They know what’s best for us (you people).
Sit down and eat your cereal.
I Report (-: You Whine )-: mmm, mmmm, mmmmm! Just sayin...
July 25th, 2012
2:26 pm
Take them for their word, Kyle. They consider an expansion of government and increases in spending to be “austerity.” Give it to them. Let them own it. It should frighten the majority as to what economic illiterates these liberals really are.
Dusty
July 25th, 2012
2:27 pm
oh no,
AUNTI CHIRST has gone to blaming BUSH again. He’s not running, Aunti.
SLICK RICK has got to be talking about Obama with his “pile of disengeniousness nothingness”. That ‘pile” is better known as the national debt
I’m thinking that Romney needs to talk about the national debt every day as it gets bigger and bigger every day. Mention it! It belongs to every one of us and our grandchildren. It’s the basic “bomb” that’s going to blast us. !
md
July 25th, 2012
2:30 pm
Rick…..spending has 2 elements, one a given and one not a given. The given aspect is the spending….once spent, it’s gone. The other element is the “possibility” of an outcome…..with zero guarantees. The only guarantee is the spending side of that equation.
Japan has been trying to stimulate it’s economy with spending for 2 decades…..their current debt to gdp ratio is 200%+……..not a good road to be on.
Greece, Spain, ireland, and Portugal ALL had spending problems……..now, they are at the mercy of others for the duration as they no longer have the option to spend…….austerity is now their only course of action.
You decide which is worse……spending? or saving?
weetamoe
July 25th, 2012
2:30 pm
My daughter, whose tech writing job now pays considerably less than the average 49 thou since she and her colleagues agreed to cuts in order to remain employed, spends two evenings a week as a volunteer in a therapeutic horseback riding program for autistic kids. There are also horse programs for vets suffering from PTSD. If any part of his qualifies as a business expense, then there is nothing wrong with claiming it. I think the Romney lawyers are too smart to make any illegal claims. Good grief, even lower than middle class Joe the Plumber was audited after asking candidate Obama an innocent question about taxes. In his talk to the Olympic athletes, Romney first praised the individual effort, incredible sacrifice,and talent of the athletes before mentioning the help of their parents, other family members and communities. Any attempt to equate that with Obama’s petty, envious, mendacious denigrating of the intelligence, hard work, and incredible sacrifice of business owners is dishonest. Romney praised the athletes. Obama showed a sneering contempt for the business owners.
Kyle Wingfield
July 25th, 2012
2:31 pm
Pennypacker @ 2:10: A pointless “scandal,” not least since the network that aired the interview now says she didn’t even say “you people.”
Kyle Wingfield
July 25th, 2012
2:33 pm
I Report: Oh, I definitely think they believe slower spending growth = “austerity.” I just want everyone else to know that’s what they’re talking about — and to wonder what kind of spending discipline they’d ever favor, if they consider the kind Britain has shown to be out of bounds.
Auntie Christ
July 25th, 2012
2:36 pm
gadem @224: “All I want to know is where is the jobs IF tax cuts create jobs, then where are the jobs. Taxes were cut a decade ago. What are the business leaders doing with ALL of that money? Someone ain’t being truthful…” You may be interested in this from AllGov.com yesterday:
If you combined the economies of the United States and Japan, you would have the dollar equivalent of the amount of money being stashed away by the super-rich of the world in offshore tax havens.
A new report from the Tax Justice Network found $21 trillion was hidden in foreign bank accounts in 2010. This amount is equal to the combined economic output of Japan and the U.S. each year.
Overall, there may be as much as $32 trillion held in offshore accounts, such as those located in banks found in Switzerland and the Cayman Islands. End of Article
Maybe Willard Mitt will tell us how this is creating jobs.
St Simons - we're on Island time
July 25th, 2012
2:37 pm
Rmoney needs to………bu….but….
“We’ve given you (little) people all you (peasants) need to know. (now
bring me my tax payer funded dancing horse and use the service
entrance on the way out)”
They might as well go all Al Capone/Marie Antoinette on ‘merka,
’cause he won’t be the final nominee
Slick Rick
July 25th, 2012
2:37 pm
Dusty – you can thank . . . here it comes . . . prepare for it . . . conservatives (Reagan, Bush, Dick) for the pile of debt we have.
Mr_B
July 25th, 2012
2:39 pm
md: For a more balanced view (blames both sides)of the causes of the 2008 meltdown, see
http://www.factcheck.org/2008/10/who-caused-the-economic-crisis/
Dusty
July 25th, 2012
2:43 pm
To tell the truth,
I think we are all wasting our time here. Most of the people I know have made their decisions about the next president. I suspect the so called “independents” also know whom they favor or maybe they are waiting to follow the crowd.
If they are waiting for the “crowd”, Obama is in. That’s how he got in the first time. Another “nice” speech or two and he’s got the vote. Doesn’t matter what Romney says. The pied piper of politics calls his puppets again and he’s saying “Don’t think! Follow me!” and they jump.
Mr_B
July 25th, 2012
2:43 pm
Kyle: Mr Romney will talk more about who he is, just as soon as he decides whom it is more advantageous to be at the moment.
Strangely, the previous president that Romney most resembles to me is JFK, a guy whose greatest claim to the Oval Office is something along the lines of “Well, the nation owes it to me.”
Jeffrey
July 25th, 2012
2:46 pm
I think Romney lost the chance to talk about himself a long time ago. He has changed positions so many times anything that tries to further define him would just confuse folks even more Say what you will about santorum and Gingrich they were at least defined I really can’t imagine what he could do now
Auntie Christ
July 25th, 2012
2:47 pm
Let me type this reeeeeeeeaaaaaaallllllllll sllllllooooooowwwwwwww, so you can understand thsi complicated statement:
Who’s blaming? I just stated facts.
You people really have your own way of reading between the lines don’t you, not just between the lines, but the pages and everywhere else. Like wee wee moe at 230 talking about Obama’s “sneering contempt for the business owners.” That’s a sign of a delusional, paranoid hater, to impute to someone faults that are not evident to anyone else (except other paranoid delusionals). wee wee, you haven’t dyed your hair orange have you?
Jeffrey
July 25th, 2012
2:47 pm
JFK fought in a war. Unless I’m missing the downside of having a rich father.
Mr_B
July 25th, 2012
2:53 pm
Jeffery: I’m not attacking JFK, but Joe Kennedy was determined that one of his sons would be president. JFK did bring a sense of entitlement with him. That said, I’m glad it was him and not Nixon during the Cuban missile thing.
I Report (-: You Whine )-: mmm, mmmm, mmmmm! Just sayin...
July 25th, 2012
2:53 pm
I’m not gonna say who it is but one of these libs has an obsession with people’s private parts.
Could you calm it down, little freak?
md
July 25th, 2012
2:54 pm
“md: For a more balanced view (blames both sides)of the causes of the 2008 meltdown, see”
MrB…..I’ve read that one before, hence the reason I said it was a double edged sword and we will never know.
Mandingo
July 25th, 2012
2:54 pm
The united GOP voter suppression efforts should have R-Money in pretty good shape.
md
July 25th, 2012
2:57 pm
“Let me type this reeeeeeeeaaaaaaallllllllll sllllllooooooowwwwwwww, so you can understand thsi complicated statement:
Who’s blaming? I just stated facts.”
Words have meaning…..use the ones that convey your message and there won’t be any misunderstandings. To use the phrase “Bush gave us” implies the man…vs “during the Bush years” (or something equivalent). There is a difference. One has an element of blame while the other does not.
Auntie Christ
July 25th, 2012
2:58 pm
Jeffrey @ 247: JFK fought in a war. Unless I’m missing the downside of having a rich father.
That was a different generation, a generation that believed in sacrifice, sacrifice of their blood and their treasure. They saw the value of building infrastructure and schools, They didn’t whine about being “taxed enough already,” and avoid their responsibility to pass that infrastructure and the American dream on to the next generation, with the expectation that this generation would do the same.
md
July 25th, 2012
3:06 pm
” They didn’t whine about being “taxed enough already,” and avoid their responsibility to pass that infrastructure and the American dream on to the next generation, with the expectation that this generation would do the same.”
Is the 50% that don’t pay any income tax whining? How dare they……….
independent thinker
July 25th, 2012
3:06 pm
Here is what I already know about Willard Mitt Romney :
1. He is a Mormon and will not answer any questions about his faith or his support of racist and antisemitic policies of the Mormon Church;
2, Hides all records of past business and government dealings for no obvious reason;
3. Draft dodger who hid in France during the Vietnam War;
4. Keeps money and business dealings offshore and created a fake blind trust while governor run allegedly by his wife and son;
5. Changed his position on every major conservative “hot button” issue once or more;
6. Knows nothing about foreign policy and national security and will rely on the same fools as did George W. and make the same mistakes;
7. Will give bankers the same rope to hang themselves and wreck the economy as did George W.
8. Has the same plan for universal health care as Obama and
9. Sounds terrible when singing
Other than that he claims to be the job creator with no proven track record to prove that but is a nice guy.
Dusty
July 25th, 2012
3:07 pm
Ho hum…I think I will turn off the propaganda pipe line here. Liberals have “lost it”.
Example: “wee wee, you haven’t dyed your hair orange have you?” from Aunti Christ.
Besides, the Braves are playing and they represent a strong team with an honest effort. Most enjoyable. Go Braves!
Auntie Christ
July 25th, 2012
3:13 pm
md @ 257: To use the phrase “Bush gave us” implies the man…vs “during the Bush years” (or something equivalent). There is a difference. One has an element of blame while the other does not.
I will remember that in the future, especially when I hear someone talking about the “prosperity raygun brought us,” or how “raygun got the economy moving.” I’m counting on you to help me catch all those abusers of the language.
md
July 25th, 2012
3:13 pm
Gee HBD, where did you get that awful analysis……..
“He was already utilizing IRAs and 401(k)s to shelter much of his investment income, possibly worth as much as $100 million today, from taxes.”
I would certainly hope so, that is why we all have them………..
and:
” It is reported that once the Olympics showed a profit, Romney ended up donating his salary to charities, thus further lowering his reported income for tax purposes.”
Heaven forbid anyone give their entire salary to charity……..I’m shocked, just absolutely shocked….
That whole piece does a pretty bad job of masking the intent of pure smear………
Kyle Wingfield
July 25th, 2012
3:14 pm
HDB: Shorter excerpt, please.
md
July 25th, 2012
3:18 pm
“I will remember that in the future, especially when I hear someone talking about the “prosperity raygun brought us,” or how “raygun got the economy moving.” I’m counting on you to help me catch all those abusers of the language.”
You seem to be having a problem distinguishing between things happening during an administration and things happening because of a direct policy of an administration……..
Credit or blame is fine if applied toward an outcome of a policy implemented by any given President.
Such as the high credit card rates we are all currently enjoying…….directly in response to the credit card bill signed by the current president……..
Auntie Christ
July 25th, 2012
3:19 pm
md @ 300 pm: Is the 50% that don’t pay any income tax whining? How dare they…
To quote a great American, “words have meaning.” 50% indicates more than one, ergo we say ARE the 50%…..
Is our children learning?
clyde
July 25th, 2012
3:25 pm
This election should be so simple for the Republicans that it’s simple.But it ain’t.And the Candidate is the problem.
Romney’s saving grace with me is that I don’t believe he can do a worse job in the next four years than Obama is capable of doing.
md
July 25th, 2012
3:25 pm
“ergo we say ARE the 50%…..”
And you are correct, it should be are……but you are also grasping if a grammatical error is all you have.
Tense doesn’t really change the “meaning”……….that would be on the backside of that sentence.
Slick Rick
July 25th, 2012
3:28 pm
md – Credit card rates should be higher, much higher. So we can, ya know, ween ourselves off of spending money we don’t have on things we don’t need.
That Black guy
July 25th, 2012
3:34 pm
md
July 25th, 2012
1:20 pm
“He likes to bully people. Not much else you need to know.”
Have something to back that up or is it just bully speech?
_________________________________________
They may be talking about when Obama attacked the little Black girk when he was younger.
catlady
July 25th, 2012
3:34 pm
While I am not 100% thrilled with everything Obama has been able to do, I am 100% NOT willing to vote for Romney. He is NOT what we need. I had hoped the Republicans would come up with a much better candidate.
It seems like all Romney is running on is NOT being Obama. That’s just plain stupid!
HDB
July 25th, 2012
3:39 pm
The more that comes out about Romney…..
Did Mitt Romney get a ‘bailout’ for Bain & Company??
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/fact-checker/post/did-mitt-romney-get-a-bailout-for-bain-and-company/2012/07/24/gJQAvzSh7W_blog.html?hpid=z10
Jefferson
July 25th, 2012
3:47 pm
President up by 6, on his way — Romney is helping him, not hurting him.
Jefferson
July 25th, 2012
3:50 pm
You folks know Romney IS one of the worse choices, he bought you, how does that feel — you know being bought ?
md
July 25th, 2012
3:51 pm
“md – Credit card rates should be higher, much higher. So we can, ya know, ween ourselves off of spending money we don’t have on things we don’t need.”
You do realize that there are many that can and do use credit cards responsibly. Unfortunately, it’s the one’s that don’t that cause the problems for everybody……..
So much so that the democrats thought it necessary to pass a bill to socialize their bad habits……
I Report (-: You Whine )-: mmm, mmmm, mmmmm! Just sayin...
July 25th, 2012
3:54 pm
He bought us with his own money instead of with ours, like obozo bought you.
HDB
July 25th, 2012
3:59 pm
Romney in 2002: Olympians ‘didn’t get here solely on your own power’
“Romney’s own remarks to Olympians, offered during the opening ceremonies for the 2002 Winter Games in Salt Lake City that Romney led, hewed closely to Obama’s suggestion that success is communal.
“You Olympians, however, know you didn’t get here solely on your own power. For most of you, loving parents, sisters or brothers encouraged your hopes,” he said after praising the competitors in footage unearthed by NBC News. “Coaches guided, communities built venues in order to organize competitions. All Olympians stand on the shoulders of those who lifted them. We’ve already cheered the Olympians, let’s also cheer the parents, coaches and communities.”
….Romney said virtually the SAME THING as Obama…but he wants to rail against Obama, huh??
I was FOR it before I was AGAINST it……
http://articles.latimes.com/2012/jul/23/news/la-pn-romney-in-2002-olympians-didnt-get-here-solely-on-your-own-power-20120723
Interested Observer
July 25th, 2012
3:59 pm
RE: “…wonder what kind of spending discipline they’d [Democrats ] ever favor…”
This comment perpetuates the myth that Republicans spend less than Democrats. Bush and his Republican congresses should have put that myth to rest.
Republicans don’t want to spend less than Democrats; they just want to spend less on the poor and middle class while seeking to spend more on corporations and the wealthy.
Jefferson
July 25th, 2012
3:59 pm
Kyle is right btw, its not working.
independent thinker
July 25th, 2012
4:00 pm
Kyle – I saw the interview and heard Anne Romney say “we have given YOU PEOPLE all you need to know” . Please explain who altered her words and lip movements. Obama? Or was that someone impersonating her???????? Was she taken out of context like her husband did about Obama’s comments concerning infrastructure and business??? Please explain.
Road Scholar
July 25th, 2012
4:01 pm
Kyle: Does the Republican Party do a platform any more before/during the convention? Does it or other official documents (sorry bloggers your opinion doesn’t count) outline the items and issues Romney and/ or the repubs stand for/are directed by? Something with specifics?
East Lake Ira
July 25th, 2012
4:05 pm
I for one would like to know more about Mitt’s taxes and why he lies so easily.
Do tell Mitt. Please.
They BOTH suck
July 25th, 2012
4:06 pm
Regardless of how people see it, the Pres always gets too much credit or blame for the economy. That is nothing new in how campaigns play out or how people see what is going on.
Debates imo will send Romney to victory or send him home. Either way it will not be a whooping like McCain was administered. Going to be close regardless who wins.
I see an 04 coming. A President with less than 50% approval but still winning the WH.
Common Cents
July 25th, 2012
4:08 pm
Curious
July 25, 2012
1:59 PM
“About the only thing Romney can accuse Obama of being guilty of, that Romney himself is not quilty of is:
Obama is only half white”
How would we know? He might be all black. He might be white with a great tan. We can’t seem to get a birth certificate…
Hillbilly D
July 25th, 2012
4:08 pm
I’ve said before that the fact that neither candidate has walked away with this race, shows how weak both candidates are. It’s depressing that out of 300 million people, give or take, these two are the last ones left.
Jefferson
July 25th, 2012
4:08 pm
What is being held back to swift boat ? You know its coming .
Ayn Rant
July 25th, 2012
4:09 pm
Enough talk and self-definition! We want to see his tax returns for the last 8 years.
They BOTH suck
July 25th, 2012
4:11 pm
Kyle
I have heard and read how the attacks on Bain and the money spent by Obama and the Democrats are not working.
With that said, a better candidate (whether I agree with thier politics or not) should have been able to accentuate the sluggish economy to a degree better than tied or even losing, we wont even get into Electoral College projections.
Again, like 04, Obama like Bush will not win because people are sold……… he will win because the challenger was not up to the task in the majority of the electorates’ minds. And it will not matter how much talk radio riles the base that was going to vote for Romney or whomever regardless
They BOTH suck
July 25th, 2012
4:12 pm
Hilbilly D @ 4:08
Agree 100%
Forget Party affiliation, this country can do better. We better be able to do better
Thomas Heyward Jr.
July 25th, 2012
4:12 pm
All anyone needs to know about Romney is that he supports the indefinite detention of American citizens without due process.(NDAA of 2012).
.
Voting for him…….renders one a traitor……….to the ENTIRE human race.
.
A Romney/Obama voter deserves being Gitmo’ed….and I hope that they are….post haste.
Then..and only then..will our country get back its republic.
Hillbilly D
July 25th, 2012
4:21 pm
They BOTH Suck
From the Presidential race, right down to the smallest local race, there’s not one person that I actually want to vote for, in elections that I can vote in. I’ll go vote and in each and every race, it’ll be a matter of which one I detest the least. This is the worst slate of candidates, top to bottom, that I can remember, and I’ve been voting nearly 40 years.
Common Cents
July 25th, 2012
4:24 pm
Independent Thinker
July 25, 2012
3:06 pm
“Here is what I already know about Willard Mitt Romney :
1. He is a Mormon and will not answer any questions about his faith or his support of racist and antisemitic policies of the Mormon Church;
2, Hides all records of past business and government dealings for no obvious reason;
3. Draft dodger who hid in France during the Vietnam War;
4. Keeps money and business dealings offshore and created a fake blind trust while governor run allegedly by his wife and son;
5. Changed his position on every major conservative “hot button” issue once or more;
6. Knows nothing about foreign policy and national security and will rely on the same fools as did George W. and make the same mistakes;
7. Will give bankers the same rope to hang themselves and wreck the economy as did George W.
8. Has the same plan for universal health care as Obama and
9. Sounds terrible when singing
Other than that he claims to be the job creator with no proven track record to prove that but is a nice guy.”
Here is what I already know about Barrack Hussein Obama
1. He is a Christian (maybe?) who refuses to discuss his dealing with Jerimiah Wright who definitely has some extremely racist views.
2. He hides his birth certificate and college transcripts for no obvious reasons.
3. Military Experience? Yeah, that’s a big no. (Giess you needed a birth certificate to get in…)
4. Wouldn’t know if Obama has any money hiding anywhere as he has NEVER worked in the private sector. Been on the government teat his whole career…
5. Changes his position constantly, and not just on hot button issues. (Remember the “I will sign no bill without giving the American people 48 hours to review it”? spiel. Yeah, we all know how THAT worked out…)
6. Believes in the “Barney” approach to foreign policy (I love you; you love me! Let’s all be friends…) and National Security?!? (We can’t beat them so we’ll just let everybody stay even though they’re here illegally!)
7. Who drafted the bill that allowed all those CEO’s to keep their golden parachutes when they got bailed out? Oh, that would be then-senator Barrack Obama! Ding! Ding! Ding! We have a winner…
8. Universal ealtcare plan in MA? Bi-partisan effort with concessions on both sides that the PEOPLE ( you remember them, right?) wanted. Universal Healthcare? Democratic nightmare that most of America did NOT want and had to have crammed down their throats and are still trying to spit out. Also MA healthcare was well-funded and didn’t cause the State to go broke – Unlike Obeymecare.
9. Who cares if he can sing? But since he can’t do anything else, I doubt he can sing either…
Other than he claims to build jobs yet unemployment is creeping back up again and he created a debt that my children’s children will still be paying. So he has a proven record… of failure! No, thanks. I can’t afford another four years. I have to work until well past retirement to pay for the first four years.
They BOTH suck
July 25th, 2012
4:27 pm
Hillybilly
Only been voting since 87, but you are right, it is bad
Requesta
July 25th, 2012
4:31 pm
“1.Just 8 percent of registered voters say they need to know more about Obama.”
That tells me he’s going to lose. The other 92 percent already know everything they need to know about him…and it ain’t all that good.
independent thinker
July 25th, 2012
4:34 pm
Road Scholar- here is the GOP platform:
1. Tax breaks for the top 1% and 5% capital gains tax;
2.cut all public benefits by 25%;
3. eliminate social security and medicare and make them privately run;
4. no bid contracts for all defense contractors;
5. Prepare to attack China and Iran; restart cold war with Russia;
6. allow bankers and investment brokers to operate without any regulation;
7. fire and arrest federal workers who have distant or dead relatives who knew someone whose friends were members at some time in the Muslim Brotherhood;
8. allow unlimited profits to be earned by individuals with offshore accounts and businesses without any tax consequences;
9. Increased tax deductions for plants that close down and ship work overseas;
10. Making it easier for lenders to seize all pensions and other benefits of a company as collateral;
11. allowing health insurance companies to make unlimited profits;
12. Making women’s wombs public property ;
13. Allowing the purchase and sale of any type of gun and ammo in any quantity without regulation and ;
14, Getting more justices like Antonin Scalia, Sam Alito and Clarence Thomas on the bench
What else you need to know?
fair and balanced
July 25th, 2012
4:45 pm
Common cents:”"”" Also MA healthcare was well-funded and didn’t cause the State to go broke – Unlike Obeymecare. “”"
Obviously you are unaware that in order to fund Romney care which was created because the fund for free emergency room care in Mass was empty ( n unfunded mandate created by Reagan) the state has now borrowed and gone over its Medicaid allotment by 8.5 billion dollars. Guess who is covering that shortfall? you as an American taxpayer.
Please tell me about all these government jobs that Obama had as an attorney before he became a US and State Senator -name one.
You must have been asleep when Obama gave a speech in 2008 condemning and disavowing Jeremiah Wright. When has Romney done that about racists in the Mormon Church?
What do you expect to find in his college transcript that would effect his ability to be president? That he really did not attend Harvard law school and become president of the prestigious law review?
Thomas Heyward Jr.
July 25th, 2012
4:48 pm
RESOLUTION CONDEMNING THE 2012 NDAA
•WHEREAS, the most recently enacted National Defense Authorization Act passed the Congress by an overwhelming bipartisan majority and was signed into law by the president and,
•WHEREAS, provisions in this law provide agents of the federal government and the military the authority to indefinitely detain both citizens and non citizens, on US soil, without charge and,
•WHEREAS said detention can be effected solely on the basis of an unsubstantiated accusation that the detainee poses a threat and,
•WHEREAS, there is no provision for due process or judicial review of said actions and,
•WHEREAS, said detainees can have their right to legal counsel withheld and,
•WHEREAS, detainees are denied their right to be informed of specific charges and be confronted by their accuser and,
•WHEREAS, detention can be indefinite with no fixed term, and at the whim of the detaining authorities and,
•WHEREAS, such authority confers upon the government of the United States unprecedented power to usurp the rights of the people in a direct violation of the Constitution and the Bill of Rights,
NOW THEREFORE BE IT RESOLVED, that the Libertarian Party calls on every candidate running for elected office, national, state, or local, to denounce this abrogation of constitutional due process rights, and to do everything in their power once elected to repeal and nullify this brazen violation of Constitutional protection and natural law.
.
Gary Johnson or Ron Paul.
All the rest are mere traitors.
That Black guy
July 25th, 2012
4:57 pm
Hillbilly D
July 25th, 2012
4:08 pm
I’ve said before that the fact that neither candidate has walked away with this race, shows how weak both candidates are. It’s depressing that out of 300 million people, give or take, these two are the last ones left.
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We are picking the midget with the best jumper.
Common Cents
July 25th, 2012
5:05 pm
Fair and Balanced
You pick one line and m iss the point. I forgot; that’s the strategy.
1. Medicaid is a whole nother ball of wax. The changes that need to be made to that program and the abuses that occur could take pages in and of themselves. But again, this plan was DESIRED by the people of MA and it was a BI-PARTISAN effort. Neither of which is true for Obeymecare.
2. Please re-read the bullet point more slowly… I didn’t say he had a bunch of government jobs. I said he had NEVER worked in the private sector. e has ALWAYS worked for the government. (Maybe that’s the issue; you Dems don’t realize that working as a Senator and President means you work FOR the government- i.e. the people- not the other way around…)
3.Please don’t tell me that you HONESTLY believe that after attending Jerimiah Wright’s church for all those years Obama suddenly realized that the crap he was spewing was racist. I would rather im have refused to discuss it than to play the dumb card of “I didn’t know this was racist rhetoric for all the years I associated with him!”
4. Ummm… If he lied about Harvard and his grades and being editor of the law review and his birth certificate that definitely affects my opinion of what kind of job he would do as President. The fact that Mitt Romney has made lots of money in the private sector tells me he could probably do a better job of running the economy as opposed to the ruining of the economy that your current President has done.
CDC
July 25th, 2012
5:19 pm
Well today we learned that he is an Anglo Saxon…unlike our President whom he obviously thinks is some sort of heathen. But that is just the way the ultra rich talk. Like Ann Romney saying “we’ve given all you people need to know” in regards to her husband opening up his tax records. Just the way the 1% speaks to us low-lifes.
The Fresh Prince of Bill Ayers
July 25th, 2012
5:22 pm
We’re all voting for whom the special interest groups are hand feeding us, and getting the lipstick put on these pigs by Fox News and Msnbc. And most are too stupid to know it.
Rafe Hollister, suffering through Oblamer's ineptocracy
July 25th, 2012
5:23 pm
Kyle, go back to 2008 and think of all the people wanted to know about Barry. He revealed nothing then and his background is sealed much tighter today, than national security information is concealed in his WH. Didn’t seem to hurt him, people must have liked voting for some mystery man. I think they hated GWB so much, they would have voted for a turnip. I think the same conditions exist today.
Obama is winning all the groups he is after, but not to the same extent he did in 2008, and he is losing white voters at a much greater rate than 2008. If I was Romney, I would only talk about what I wanted to reveal, he is not going to change the mind of one Obama Koolaid drinker, now matter what he reveals about himself.
fair and balanced
July 25th, 2012
5:30 pm
Common cents-
1. If you are going to suck 8.5 billion dollars out of the feds the state does not have available in the treasury, no wonder it had bipartisan effort.
2. Romney has never disavowed anything connected with the Mormon church;
3. Obviously you are misinformed as to Obama’s career after Harvard;
4. Prove to me that Obama faked being the president of the Harvard Law Review.
Bruno
July 25th, 2012
5:38 pm
Great to see TBG on board. The man is so cool, he actually knows Victoria’s Secret.
If you missed it earlier, my GF and I will be visiting Jersey in about 3 weeks. Really looking forward to the trip.
I Report (-: You Whine )-: mmm, mmmm, mmmmm! Just sayin...
July 25th, 2012
5:42 pm
I’d rather see a man’s academic records, to be able to discern whether he’s a total dimwit or not, then to find out the methods he used to make a bunch of money.
Wait a minute. We already know that obozo is a total dimwit. I forgot.
Never mind.
saywhat?
July 25th, 2012
5:47 pm
Hmmmmmm. What ever happened to the right wing “Obama is the most unvetted President in history” meme? Oh wait, there’s the ever enlightened Rafe Hollister spouting that made up nonsense right below the column where Kyle quotes the Pew poll “Just 8 percent of registered voters say they need to know more about Obama”.
Dude, do you even read the column? This kind of blind stupidity in the face of facts is frickin’ hilarious.
JamVet
July 25th, 2012
5:47 pm
Of course, Flip Robme doesn’t want to talk about Flip Robme!
When it comes to campaigning, he and his handlers are obviously not very good, but they ain’t crazy!
On the one hand, he must feel like amazingly lucky. Kinda like the Chicago White Sox being in the Pansy Division of baseball. And if Flip’s competition had not been a bunch of laughable nimrods, he’d wouldn’t even be on anyone’s radar today.
On the other hand, he is truly unfortunate, in terms of timing, at least. No doubt, that a huge part of his problem is the fact that the fake conservatives, as led by George Walker Bush have poisoned the nation so badly against their abysmal neoconservatism that it may well take the GOP another 12 years to win the White House back.
His staggering mistake is not only has he not denounced the Bush Reign of Error, he has actually cozied up to it! And has numerous of George’s thugs and goons on his staff!
What in the name of Great Caesar’s Ghost are these people thinking?!
The man is a walking train wreck of a nominee. With so many problems that he makes the middling BHO look like one of the Founding Fathers.
THE CONS DON’T EVEN LIKE HIM!
Simply stated, he is, hands down, the weakest GOP candidate for POTUS in my lifetime. The guy makes Bob Dole and John McCain look like invincible juggernauts in comparison.
And at least McCain had integrity, valor, service before self and supreme sacrifice on his side.
But Flip? He is completely without any of those traits.
The election is over. And has been for months. The effete, northeastern, Holy Father of Socialist Medicine, severely conservative RINO is a dead man walking.
But his fellow zombies want to pretend otherwise.
Which makes for great spectacle and comedy.
So go ahead and endure what promises to be an insufferable summer and fall, neocons.
I’m stocking up on popcorn…
Just saying..
July 25th, 2012
5:48 pm
“35 percent want to know more about his tax returns.”
Just crazy if, after 8 years running for the office, the election turns on that…
saywhat?
July 25th, 2012
5:50 pm
I Report (-: You Whine )-: mmm, mmmm, mmmmm! Just sayin…
July 25th, 2012
5:42 pm
“I’d rather see a man’s academic records, to be able to discern whether he’s a total dimwit or not, then to find out the methods he used to make a bunch of money.”
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Especially if you support the guy who made lots of money by being an unethical, un-American crook. Gotta keep that swept under the rug, don’t you cupcake?
@@
July 25th, 2012
5:53 pm
A departing gift?
Rep. Ron Paul, R-Texas, doesn’t get his way very often in Congress.
But the House overwhelmingly adopted his longstanding proposal to audit the Federal Reserve Wednesday, in a 327-98 vote.
Meanwhile, Democrats like House Minority Whip Steny Hoyer, D-Md., argued a full audit would politicize the Federal Reserve.
“The Fed, like every other major central bank in the world, is independent and Congress has rightly insulated the Fed from short-term political pressures,” Hoyer said.
Hoyer declared earlier in the week he would advise Democratic members to vote no. Ninety-seven did. But 89 voted yes, ushering Paul’s bill to passage with a comfortable margin.
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/07/25/house-approves-audit-fed-bill-marking-capstone-on-rep-paul-career/?intcmp=trending
No harm in an audit, right?
Kewl!
Matz
July 25th, 2012
5:55 pm
What could Rmoney tell us about himself?
Once he’s demonstrated that his word is only a tool to get what he wants, and that tool changes based on which faction he’s attempting to manipulate to get what he wants, then it doesn’t really matter what his message is, because there’s no reason whatsoever to believe a word of it. Put me down in the “it would be virtually impossible for me to care less than I already do now” column.
I know enough to know I don’t want to know any more.
@@
July 25th, 2012
6:00 pm
Iran Nuclear Plants Hit By Virus Playing AC/DC.
Helo, Ahmadenijad!!!
Tres KEWL!
Common Cents
July 25th, 2012
6:00 pm
Fair and Balanced
1. Still does not change the fact that MA wanted the health care.
2. So, false platitudes about what you knew was racist rhetoric don’t impress me; better off saying nothing.
3. What private sector job did Obama hold after (supposedly) Harvard?
4. Why is it ok for Obama to withhold his information for privacy reasons but it’s not ok for Mitt to do the same?
Joe Biden
July 25th, 2012
6:01 pm
Glad to hear Romney camp is pandering for that white Southern vote while overseas and emphasizing
those Anglo-Saxon blood ties. Maybe when he is in Israel he will appeal to the Jewish vote and say that the Mormons are so concerned about the Holocaust victims that they felt they were blessed to be baptized by the Mormons.
Bruno
July 25th, 2012
6:01 pm
He revealed nothing then and his background is sealed much tighter today
My personal guess about his college records is that he applied as a foreign student in order to qualify for financial aid. If that’s the case, I wouldn’t necessarily hold it against him, though I do hold his lack of forthrightness against him.
I Report (-: You Whine )-: mmm, mmmm, mmmmm! Just sayin...
July 25th, 2012
6:02 pm
Especially if you support the guy who made lots of money by being an unethical, un-American crook. Gotta keep that swept under the rug, don’t you cupcake?
blah, blah, blah, bla zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
First it’s DNC Chair Debbie Wasserman-Schultz who as revealed to have invested in Swiss Banks, Foreign Drug Companies and State Bank of India. Democrat Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi has between $1 million and $5 million in partnership income from ”Matthews International Capital Management LLC,” a group that emphasizes that it has a “A Singular Focus on Investing in Asia.” The Obamas paid a total federal tax rate of 20.5 percent on a gross adjusted income $789,674, which would typically fall within the top federal rate of 35 percent.
I Report (-: You Whine )-: mmm, mmmm, mmmmm! Just sayin...
July 25th, 2012
6:05 pm
Would anyone like to discuss the Kennedy family tax shelters, while we’re on the subject?
Bob Baldwin
July 25th, 2012
6:06 pm
Common Cents
“that your current President has done.”
What country are you from?
That Black guy
July 25th, 2012
6:08 pm
Bruno
July 25th, 2012
5:38 pm
Great to see TBG on board. The man is so cool, he actually knows Victoria’s Secret.
If you missed it earlier, my GF and I will be visiting Jersey in about 3 weeks. Really looking forward to the trip.
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My Homeboy Bruno, what’s up. How did the road race go for you and PB?
Yeah, I saw that you were heating up top (Jerzey for those not in the know). How do I place my order for chocolate ecliar Tasty Kake and Deitz and Watson HOT sausage (although I’ll settle for Parks)?
Rafe Hollister, suffering through Oblamer's ineptocracy
July 25th, 2012
6:10 pm
saywhat
Rafe Hollister spouting that made up nonsense right below the column where Kyle quotes the Pew poll “Just 8 percent of registered voters say they need to know more about Obama”.
First of all, I don’t believe polls for the most part. Second, I read that to mean that folks know enough about the loser we currently have and want to know more about Romney, to determine if he is a better choice. They know what they have and are terribly disappointed, and have given up on the media ever vetting him, so they hope the media will do better with Romney. Keep drinking the Koolaid, and remember he is going down. First, Joe PA then Obom MA.
Bob Baldwin
July 25th, 2012
6:12 pm
I see where Ann Romney’s Dressage expenses are medical expenses.
That’s great news!
All my future bird hunting trips will be medical expenses; walking is good physical exercise.
Dusty
July 25th, 2012
6:13 pm
If Obama called himself a “foreign student” for school admission, how can he be an American citizen when it comes to elections?
Or is it the old”what a web we weave when first we practive to deceive.”?
Bruno
July 25th, 2012
6:13 pm
How did the road race go for you and PB?
We set an easy pace, and did great. We’re heading out the door for a 5K tonight in the 100 degree heat.
How do I place my order for chocolate ecliar Tasty Kake and Deitz and Watson HOT sausage (although I’ll settle for Parks)?
LOL–I’ve been dying for a REAL cheese steak for the longest, as well as some of that great South Jersey pizza.
Great to chat with you, gotta run (literally).
Rafe Hollister, suffering through Oblamer's ineptocracy
July 25th, 2012
6:14 pm
Saywhat
Here is why you can’t trust polls. The polls are used to push public opinion rather than reflect it and since the MSM is in the tank for Barry, here is how it goes.
Last night, I noted how NBC News was swimming against historical trends in pushing a poll with a deeply partisan skew in its sample. The poll, produced in conjunction with The Wall Street Journal, had a D+11 sample, i.e. 46% of the sample identified as Democrat, 35% identified as Republican. In 2008, a very big year for Democrats, the electorate was D+7, 39% Democrat, 32% Republican. In fact, you have to go back nearly thirty years to find an election with such a partisan skew.
http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2012/07/25/nbcs-chuck-todd-our-poll-was-skewed
JamVet
July 25th, 2012
6:14 pm
Joe B,
American Jews always vote overwhelmingly against Republicans. (Maybe they see them as too quasi-fascist?)
This election will be no different. I doubt that Flip will get 25% of the MOT vote.
Selah…
Dusty
July 25th, 2012
6:18 pm
Bob Baldwin, 6:12
If your aim in bird hunting is as accurate as your comments here you might be able to claim medical expenses in the emergency room.
JamVet
July 25th, 2012
6:19 pm
Yet more evidence of just how insane the guy is:
This week, Mitt Romney is traveling to London and attending an elite fundraiser, charging $25,000 to $75,000 per plate, hosted by the banking CEOs at the center of the LIBOR interest rate-fixing scandal.
According to reporting by The Washington Post, executives of several banks under investigation for illegally manipulating interest rates are acting as co-chairs of the Romney fundraiser.
Welcome to the corporatocracy!
And you economic liberals are overjoyed that these elected representatives NO LONGER work for you but instead for their hugely monied “corproate personhood” paymasters…
SOVEREIGNTY FOR SALE! SOVEREIGNTY FOR SALE!
RC--APOI
July 25th, 2012
6:19 pm
Well, it’s just a shame so many people don’t like Romney. I mean, fire a few hundred thousand people, ship their jobs overseas, and then tell people how much you like it and then people raise a real stink! I bet if his Mom was alive she’d like him. But then, maybe not. Romney’s the kind of guy you couldn’t hardly wait to beat up after school—you know, teacher’s pet and always dressed perfect.
Tho I got to admit I’d sure like to see those tax returns. I wonder if he wrote off the cost of that car elevator. Anyway, I think the less he says about hisself, the better. He’s already got enough that don’t like him. He don’t need to rile up more.
F. Sinkwich
July 25th, 2012
6:21 pm
“Princeton, NJ – Democrats are significantly less likely now (39%) than they were in the summers of 2004 and 2008 to say they are “more enthusiastic about voting than usual” in the coming presidential election. Republicans are more enthusiastic now than in 2008, and the same as in 2004.”
No surprise here. Based on their vote in 2008, the Dems should hang their heads in shame and beg for forgiveness from their fellow Americans.
F. Sinkwich
July 25th, 2012
6:25 pm
“Welcome to the corporatocracy!”
The evil corportors!
When can we expect an always popular Pluto-people reference?
Bob Baldwin
July 25th, 2012
6:28 pm
Thanks for the advice Dusty, but I have insurance that pays for my regular visit to the shrink.
however your suggestion may help some others here get the medical help they need.
Rafe Hollister, suffering through Oblamer's ineptocracy
July 25th, 2012
6:30 pm
Dusty @6:18, you are a treasure!
MarkV
July 25th, 2012
6:39 pm
Some people may indeed want to know more about Romney, but if they “are waiting to hear what Romney has to say about himself” for that purpose, they are only deceiving themselves. It has become abundantly clear that Romney will say anything to get himself elected, and nothing he says shows what he actually would do as President.
F. Sinkwich
July 25th, 2012
6:45 pm
“…and nothing he says shows what he actually would do as President.”
You are so right, Mark.
All he does is spout this Hope & Change stuff!
Oh, wait…
Just Bush - But Updated
July 25th, 2012
6:46 pm
Alexandra Franceschi is Specialty Media Press Secretary of the Republican National Committee.
ESPUELAS: Now, how different is that concept from what were the policies of the Bush administration? And the reason I ask that is because there’s some analysis now that is being published talking about the Bush years being the slowest period of job creation since those statistics were created. Is this a different program or is this that program just updated?
FRANCESCHI: I think it’s that program, just updated.
It’s the Romney Campaign saying that he will use the disasterous Bush economic policies….
md
July 25th, 2012
6:47 pm
““The Fed, like every other major central bank in the world, is independent and Congress has rightly insulated the Fed from short-term political pressures,” Hoyer said.”
Isn’t it funny how we had all this yelling and screaming about the Wall St banks and now that the misfits are willing to look into the biggest bank of them all we get this??
td
July 25th, 2012
6:49 pm
Auntie Christ
July 25th, 2012
1:40 pm
This should help capture the blue collar vote, it will establish romney’s connection to the working man:
“Dressage cost Romney $77,000 in 2010, money that was spent on the feeding and care of Ann Romney’s co-owned horse, Rafalca, which will compete in the summer Olympics. The Romneys were able to declare the expenses as a tax-deductible loss.
This amount is considerably more than what the average American household earned in 2010—$49,445, according to the U.S. Census Bureau.”
I wonder how many jobs this has created?
Well there was the trainers job and I am sure there was a stable boy that feed the horse. How about the man that owns the boarding place the horse is at? The Vet that takes care of the horse? The people that built the trailer that hauls the horse to events?
Should I go on? The real question is how many jobs would have been lost if not for this tax break and how many jobs would have been lost if Romney paid this money to the government and did not have it to spend on this effort?
I can tell you if this money went to the government then it would have produced 1 government worker job.
md
July 25th, 2012
6:49 pm
“My personal guess about his college records is that he applied as a foreign student in order to qualify for financial aid.”
Which would certainly nullify that birth certificate wouldn’t it? Or make the man a major liar like the indian up in MA.
You libs
July 25th, 2012
6:52 pm
Yes, he needs to talk about himself more but for God’s sake don’t let him start telling the truth. He needs to tell the story about when he saved that disabled old lady from the angry mob of liberals who turned on her when they realized that through the strength of her will and her commitment to creating jobs, she made more money than they did.
You know, that kind of stuff.
@@
July 25th, 2012
6:54 pm
As the economy tanked, the average number of births per woman fell 12% from a peak of 2.12 in 2007. Demographic Intelligence projects the rate to hit 1.87 this
year and 1.86 next year — the lowest since 1987.
The less-educated and Hispanics have experienced the biggest birthrate decline while the share of U.S. births to college-educated, non-Hispanic whites and Asian Americans has grown.–USAToday
How is that possible with the GOP’s war on women and their contraceptives.
schnirt
md
July 25th, 2012
6:54 pm
“All my future bird hunting trips will be medical expenses; walking is good physical exercise.”
Make you a deal…..you inflict yourself with MS and we won’t worry about you writing off your hunting trips……if you are able to take them.
md
July 25th, 2012
6:58 pm
” I mean, fire a few hundred thousand people, ship their jobs overseas, and then tell people how much you like it and then people raise a real stink! ”
You are aware that most of the Nation knows this talking point has been taken out of context and only makes you look silly….right?
md
July 25th, 2012
7:02 pm
“This week, Mitt Romney is traveling to London and attending an elite fundraiser, charging $25,000 to $75,000 per plate, hosted by the banking CEOs at the center of the LIBOR interest rate-fixing scandal.”
Now that makes 2 of them then doesn’t it. But I tend to be more interested in Obama fundraising from the guys at Solyndra……give them our dollars, those guys take the money and run after closing Solyndra, and then show back up at a fundraiser……..
Follow the bouncing ball…..tax dollars from Obama to Obama……..
You libs
July 25th, 2012
7:04 pm
I just can’t believe that this once proud nation has been so reduced by the right-wing noise machine to this. I just never thought it would be possible. We put a man on the moon, for goodness sake.
Well, at least the scientists SAY we put a man on the moon. What is FoxNews and Rush Limbaugh’s position on this?
How Inciteful Is That!
July 25th, 2012
7:28 pm
“I see a need to weigh the outcomes carefully–attack Obama or tell the voters the whole truth about Bain and job creation and off-shore tax havens, etc. Attack Obama, it’s your only hope, Mitt.” – An honest Romney Adviser
dabir dalton
July 25th, 2012
7:44 pm
As Governor Mitt governed like a liberal now he’s running as a conservative for president.
Romney made his fortune in an industry {Financial sector} that specializes in the financial rape of the working class.
Romney espouses an ideology – Conservatism – that seeks to justify the financial rape of the working class.
In short Romney is a liar {flip flopper} and a con man who intends to finish what Bush the younger started – To bankrupt our nation.
Seems to me Kyle he’s better off remaining quiet about himself.
Ronnie Raygun
July 25th, 2012
8:05 pm
Yeah, Bernie Madoff Jr. should tell America who he really is. Then he’d lose by an even bigger landslide.
Ronnie Raygun
July 25th, 2012
8:08 pm
“I love outsourcing jobs and putting Americans out of work. After all, that’s how I got rich.” ~ Mitt Romney
They BOTH suck
July 25th, 2012
8:35 pm
schnirt: translation……….. I really do not have much facts t back up what I post but I will still put my exclamation point on it.
Talk radio and talk points are the best I have so …….. shnirt
Dusty
July 25th, 2012
8:59 pm
Rafe @ 6:30
Thank you for the kind words.
Have you ever seen so many liberals trying to say something bad about Romney? They just can’t adjust to great intellect, vast experience in business and governance, fine family, total honesty and a pleasing appearance. He’s got it all and nothing can change that. The fact that Romney is also modest seems to irritate liberals. That he is wealthy also irritates them. Wealth envy gnaws at them.
Romney “outshines” Obama in so many ways it is almost laughable. When Americans think about the last few years of Obama and compare with the attributes and experience of Romney, we will soon have a president with presidential abilities. Americans were fooled once but they won’t repeat that mistake again. Ah yes!! President Romney!
Bruno
July 25th, 2012
9:11 pm
Someone remind me next time not to run a 5K in the 100 degree heat. PB almost got heat stroke…..
ragnar danneskjold
July 25th, 2012
9:18 pm
Romney is not exactly an unknown commodity. Among the people who actually think about political matters, his role in the Salt Lake City Olympics will perhaps be his strongest selling point – “his executive performance at a not-for-profit entity.” Given the disastrous performance in a similar role by the current occupant of the Oval Office, and Chauncey’s total lack of successful management anywhere in his immediately-prior career as “community organizer,” Mr. Romney need not show any more.
ragnar danneskjold
July 25th, 2012
9:21 pm
With the total mismanagement of the Federal budget over the past three years, we need someone willing to lop off entire unproductive agencies: Education (never educated the first student), Energy (yet to produce its first erg), Labor, FNMA, FHLMC, EPA, FDA, and any other agency that arguably causes any constraint on economic growth.
Dusty
July 25th, 2012
9:22 pm
hmmm I will be glad when our baby-sitting days are over. Pleae pass the strained apple sauce. Thank you.
there once was a blog in “moderation”.
because someone lost their consideration.
resorted to lowly obsfucation
and many lost their toleration
ah free speech in this great nation
ruined by raucous rumination
so Kyle, cease the domination
we’ll behave with celebration!
Yes????
fair and balanced
July 25th, 2012
9:22 pm
“We have given YOU PEOPLE all you need ” now go do some chores.
Old Timer
July 25th, 2012
10:07 pm
Romney will produce two years of tax returns–he needs to get Obama to release his education records, birth records, job records and the rest–Obama’s tax records are just a snif in the wind. This has been the most ugly disjointed campaign I have witness in my 78 years–you can blame it on TV and Instant Messaging. Take away that and you have a dull campaign, and everyone reverts to this own economic position. Subtract entitlements and you get the real picture.
jconservative
July 25th, 2012
10:08 pm
I completely agree with the basics of this column. Romney needs to get the tax returns and the offshore bank accounts out in the open and he needs to do it now. Today the election is about Romney. The election must be about Obama and his performance as president, or Romney will lose.
Will Jones - Atlanta Jeffersonian Exegesis
July 25th, 2012
10:08 pm
It would sure be “fun” to hear Romney talk about his thinking when 9.2 million Americans went off and served in our Armed Forces during Vietnam, and he pulled strings in the Mormon church to get a draft-dodger slot in another state because his home state’s allotment for “pious” dodgers was full-up. Then he got an extension for his “mission work” in France until the draft-lottery was instituted and he drew a high number.
What a patriot! What a “man!” lol What a clown pansy loser zombie.
P.S. There’s only one Creator, G-d of the universe: America’s sovereign. Dulce et Decorum est Pro Patria Mori.
yuzeyurbrane
July 25th, 2012
11:19 pm
You can’t make a silk purse out of a sow’s ear.
Auntie Christ
July 26th, 2012
12:38 am
md 649: “My personal guess about his college records is that he applied as a foreign student in order to qualify for financial aid.”
Which would certainly nullify that birth certificate wouldn’t it? Or make the man a major liar like the indian up in MA.”
Man you cons have learned the pox news/ limbaugh/ boor tz/ brietbart methodology well. Start out by a ‘personal guess,’ couple that with a false meme like the birther issue, use these as proof he is a ‘liar,’ and voila! you have a new right wing ‘truth. pox /limbaugh/ boor tz / brietbart can then ‘report’ this new ‘fact’ to the gullible, to spread to the more gullible, to spread to the even more gullible etc.
What a concept!
Auntie Christ
July 26th, 2012
1:27 am
td @ 649 “Well there was the trainers job and I am sure there was a stable boy that feed the horse. How about the man that owns the boarding place the horse is at? The Vet that takes care of the horse? The people that built the trailer that hauls the horse to events?”
Well first of all, let me commend romney for not finding some way to ship all these jobs you mention overseas. Now I have to ask what is the problem you cons have with paying an unemployed factory worker extended unemployment benefits of $300 week? He certainly isn’t hiring any stable boys, but he’s paying the grocer, the shoe store, he’s buying gas at the stop-n-go to get to job interviews, he’s paying the banker or a landlord for his domicile instead of stiffing them for the mortgage or rent, he’s paying the power company, the gas company etc etc etc. Nonetheless all we hear from you and your brethren is that they are a ‘drain’ on society, while romney’s expenses for his horse’s upkeep are, according to you, good for the economy.
Wingfield’s lede is, romney has to talk about himself. Well, let him talk about how much he is paying the stable boy and the trainer. Is he offering benefits with the position, paid vacations and holidays. Implied in my comment was how a factory worker paying 18-25% in income tax on his labor will view willard’s taking a deduction for his dancing horse that allows him to pay only 15% in income taxes. If willard can point to the good wage and benefits he is paying to that stable boy it might give him some cred with the blue collar.
And as always whenever you cons defend the gazillionaires, you always make it seem like taxing them is only an insignificant sum “compared to what the government spends/takes in/wastes yada yada, or in this case it would only ‘create 1 government job.’ How bout this, the $77K deduction romney took for his wife’s hobby saved him about $10K in taxes. Eliminate this deduction for hobbiies masquerading as a business for a million more of these gazillionaires, who deduct their polo ponies, yachts, champion dogs, etc and we end up with $10 billion, more than the TSPLOST will yield over ten years here in metro ATL. We could get the iimprovements needed in our transportation and not pay the 1% you so strenuously object to.
Auntie Christ
July 26th, 2012
1:43 am
md @ 210: Incorrect…..it is a business deduction for the care of a medical expense. yes, please do get your facts correct.
What? I hope you don’t do your own taxes, else you’ll be commenting fro Leavenworth soon. A business deduction for the care of a medical expense. What orifice did you pull that out of? I don’t know what romney’s position will be tomorrow on this since he changes positions more than his shirts, but his explanation is he hopes to win a gold medal in London, which will allow him to charge huge stud fees. This revenue will be offset by the expenses he has incurred to date for the horse. Since it is good therapy for his wife, he probably could have claimed a medical deduction instead, but being the astute business man he is, (well we have to take his word on that, absent any tax returns that might show otherwise) he chose to take the deduction as a business expense. So again, get your facts straight before you criticize someone of ‘insensitivity.’
The Kid
July 26th, 2012
4:10 am
Romney doesn’t know himself. He would have to be scripted for whomever he would be talking to at the time.
AU Liberal in ATL
July 26th, 2012
6:53 am
He’s changed his position on every single issue. He won’t give a straight answer to any question. He obviously has something to hide. He says he doesn’t want to release his taxes because of what the Democrats will do with them. If that’s the case, why release any of them. Not releasing his taxes seems to be the only thing he’s actually committed to. If he’s not rambling, he’s lying. I don’t know what his motivation is for wanting to be president, but I suspect that it’s nothing more than wanting his protrait hung alongside our other presidents. He just wants a presidential legacy. I would not vote for Romney under any circumstance.
GT
July 26th, 2012
7:37 am
Who Romney brings to the political area with him is very important in defining who he is just like who Bush brought. We got one impression about Bush, yet the country was run by Chaney and Runsfeld to the point that Powell resigned and Rice was a weak voice in the back row. The same storm is coming again if Romney is elected. He is another front man for some dark characters only higher volume. Follow the money and you will see all you need to know about Romney. What we can’t follow the money, hidden donors, superpacs, and refusing to give tax returns. In the end Obama wins, to some it is better to know the devil within than the stranger outside.
GT
July 26th, 2012
7:41 am
What we can’t follow the money? Hidden donors, superpacs, and refusing to give tax returns could he be hiding who is really running this campaign? In the end Obama wins, to some it is better to know the devil within than the stranger outside.
bill
July 26th, 2012
7:42 am
The only reason they are voting for this awful candidate is because he is white no more no less. He owned a company that raped other companies and threw people to the street. Another vietnam draft dodger. Why do people have the illusion the right are better on war when they all avoid service? Bush dodged, Cheney he said he more important things to do, Karl Rove, Mitt. Its funny how they really control the media and the message.
Bob
July 26th, 2012
7:52 am
Finn McFool, all you have are “mute” points.
gm
July 26th, 2012
7:57 am
What is there to learn? the man helped outsource jobs for years, and now he stands in front of idiots on the right and ask for their vote.
The man has hide billions around the world, his tax return will prove, if this was any Dem during this the right wing nut jobs would be around the clock especially idiots viewers of fox reporting this story.
Willis
July 26th, 2012
8:27 am
Romney won’t talk about himself because what he says one day will change the next. He won’t reveal his tax returns because he says the Democrats would pick them apart – what does he expect? Too bad he or none of his sons have military service records – he would find those picked apart too. Romney is a book with a lock on the cover.
Finn McCool (The System isn't Broken; It's Fixed)
July 26th, 2012
8:28 am
“Nobody cares that Romney is rich. It’s Romney’s inability to understand the institutional advantage that he gains from the government’s tax code largesse. That’s a little offensive to people, especially considering Romney’s view on anyone else who looks to the government for things like, I don’t know, food and medicine.”
Jon Stewart
Finn McCool (The System isn't Broken; It's Fixed)
July 26th, 2012
8:32 am
So, it’s ok to take $700,000 in tax breaks for your horse but other people shouldn’t be looking for free stuff…like medical help or food or education?
Tiberius - pulling the tail of the left AND right when needed
July 26th, 2012
8:37 am
Note to East Lake IRA: If you want to know more about Mitt Romney’s tax returns, I suggest you become his accountant.
But I suspect you’re not even remotely qualified for the job.
Tiberius - pulling the tail of the left AND right when needed
July 26th, 2012
8:38 am
md: Taken out of context?
It’s a flat-out LIE!
Kyle Wingfield
July 26th, 2012
8:50 am
Comment moderation is now off for the day, a little later than usual. A reminder to those who complained about it overnight: ALL comments are going through moderation between (roughly) the hours of 7 p.m. and 7 a.m., due to the inability of too many commenters to keep it civil during the night hours.
And sorry, Dusty, but just when I was thinking of going back to 24/7 commenting, we had another problem Tuesday night. So it’s not going away anytime soon.
carlosgvv
July 26th, 2012
8:52 am
Romney has no one to blame but himself for this. He was one kind of politician when Governor of Mass. As a presidential candidate, he has flip-floped to the point of being virtually unrecognizable. When asked to explain this amazing transformation, he just smiles, hems and haws and finally gives totally unsatisfactory answers.
This kind of behavior will not help him get elected.
Tiberius - pulling the tail of the left AND right when needed
July 26th, 2012
8:56 am
Once again, carlos, you fail to understand Massachusetts politics and political makeup.
To repeat it again for you would be pointless, as you seem to be incapable of internalizing facts.
The operative words are “veto-proof Democrat House and Senate super-majorites”.
Now try to learn something, will you?
How Inciteful Is That!
July 26th, 2012
8:59 am
…private equity is so-called because it does not operate in the public arena… Generally speaking, corporate social responsibility, sustainability, disclosure and environmental issues are not as much a priority as they are to public companies, charities and government.
Buyout houses such as Mr Romney’s Bain Capital use debt to acquire companies, and in doing so pay less corporation tax than might otherwise have been the case. These companies are run to maximise profits for the owners, rather than for the creation of jobs. Of course private equity can be healthy for an economy, but as a career it is probably at the opposite extreme from the public services in terms of motivations. Attention is not directed towards the common wealth, but enriching the management… That is the nature of the game. To argue otherwise is bogus.
But don’t let that stop you from claiming otherwise, Mitt. After all, you have to work with what you got. I hear your sophistry is really spot on, for example.
Tiberius - pulling the tail of the left AND right when needed
July 26th, 2012
9:05 am
Oh, and THIS is the type of political shenanigans Romney had to work with as governor:
http://www.bostonherald.com/news/regional/view/20220726secret_safe_galvinnixes_parking_fight_decision_sets_off_firestorm_of_public_records_outrage/srvc=home&position=0
To summarize: Mass. legislators get a per diem if they’re working for travel to and from Boston if they live outside of a certain area.
And they put in for a LOT of per diem.
So a local paper tried to get the parking lot records to see if these lawmakers were actually at the State House doing work on the days they claimed to be in town.
Nixed the the Democrat Governor, backed up by the Democrat Secretary of State.
Democrat Governor tells the paper they should just film legislators coming and going if they want to prove something.
Then orders his State Police to ban filming at the parking lot.
Tiberius - pulling the tail of the left AND right when needed
July 26th, 2012
9:10 am
Of course, using generalities of a particular business model, while completely ignoring the ACTUAL performance of Bain Capital, specifically during the time of Mitt Romney’s tenure, would cause you to get kicked out of debate class, Inciteful.
But since the Bain record under Romney’s leadership is one of significantly better than average success, you really don’t want to use those specifics, do you?
carlosgvv
July 26th, 2012
9:16 am
Tiberius – 8:56
1. I was refering to Romney’s apparent lack of understanding of the American electorate as to how he has failed to adequately explain his flip-floping.
2. I understand perfectly well why he’s done so many 180’s. He must appeal to the crazed far right Christian fundamentalists who are now the core of the Party if he hopes to get enough votes to win. To do this, he has to shed any and all liberal views and become as narrow, ignorant and intolerable as the rest of the “compassionate conservatives”. Needless to say, you are a regular poster boy for these bigoted dummies.
@@
July 26th, 2012
9:18 am
They BOTH suck:
schnirt: translation……….. I really do not have much facts t back up what I post but I will still put my exclamation point on it.
Talk radio and talk points are the best I have so …….. shnirt
Have a problem with snark, do ‘ya?
If you were really as good as think you are, you could’ve come back and said…”But look, the college educated Flukes are still getting pregnant.”
To which I would respond, “Looks like the under-educated hispanics (Catholics) are smarter than the college-educated flukes.”
You’re welcome.
Finn McCool (The System isn't Broken; It's Fixed)
July 26th, 2012
9:19 am
The Romneys have told you people all they need to in order to be elected leader of this great country.
Common Cents
July 26th, 2012
9:20 am
You have to love a world where if you make money, and lots of it, you are the anti-christ. Funny, I don’t see the libs wanting to audit all the Dems who have made lots of money and were President. For Example, Bill Clinton made LOTS of money (some of it from DUBIOUS sources- think White Water) and yet libs hail him as a great President. Why could the same not be true for Romney? Oh, wait, I get it; because he doesn’t believe in the same politics as them. Gotcha… **rolling my eyes**
Tiberius - pulling the tail of the left AND right when needed
July 26th, 2012
9:21 am
Thanks for admitting your ignorance of Romney’s record, carlos.
Finn McCool (The System isn't Broken; It's Fixed)
July 26th, 2012
9:29 am
Oh, wait, I get it; because he doesn’t believe in the same politics as them. Gotcha…
Not, it’s because he is a white male. After the dismal – tragic – failure of W, we don’t trust white males with taking the reins.
Tiberius - pulling the tail of the left AND right when needed
July 26th, 2012
9:30 am
Nice bigoted comment, Finn.
Your game wasn’t all that good before, but it’s degraded with this comment.
Jefferson
July 26th, 2012
9:36 am
Seems to me the GOP could have planned and done a better job, what are you thinking ? Newt ? Bachman ? Cain ?
Get a Wesley Clark or something from Earth.
How Inciteful Is That!
July 26th, 2012
9:37 am
Of course, using generalities of a particular business model, while completely ignoring the ACTUAL performance of Bain Capital, specifically during the time of Mitt Romney’s tenure, would cause you to get kicked out of debate class, Inciteful.
But since the Bain record under Romney’s leadership is one of significantly better than average success, you really don’t want to use those specifics, do you?
First, you don’t teach a debate class so your opinion in that regard is of no consequence, Tiberius. Second, I posted excerpts from an article written by Luke Johnson, chairman of the private equity firm Risk Capital Partners. If you think you are more qualified to speak to the qualifications for presidency one obtains from experience in the private equity business than someone actually in the private equity business, then it is truly you with the swelled head here.
@@
July 26th, 2012
9:39 am
And black conservatives, Finn?
They’re sell-outs, right?
Common Cents
July 26th, 2012
9:40 am
Finn McCool
Not, it’s because he is a white male. After the dismal – tragic – failure of W, we don’t trust white males with taking the reins.
So, all of our Presidents from now on will not be white? That’s rich. I love how the left calls us all biggoted good ol boys but this is the answer we get from our esteemed collegue Finn. Stay classy, Atlanta!
I Report (-: You Whine )-: mmm, mmmm, mmmmm! Just sayin...
July 26th, 2012
9:40 am
The Rasmussen Reports daily Presidential Tracking Poll for Wednesday shows Mitt Romney attracting 47% of the vote, while President Obama earns support from 44%. Five percent (5%) prefer some other candidate, and four percent (4%) are undecided.
This calls for another half a billion dollars in attack ads. From obozo. Let’s open up a gigantic lead when they flood the American people’s TVs, phones and computer screens with bald faced lies.
MarkV
July 26th, 2012
9:40 am
Dusty @8:59 pm
“Have you ever seen so many liberals trying to say something bad about Romney? They just can’t adjust to great intellect, vast experience in business and governance, fine family, total honesty and a pleasing appearance. He’s got it all and nothing can change that. “
The liberals mainly repeat what the conservatives said about Romney during the primaries.
Tiberius - pulling the tail of the left AND right when needed
July 26th, 2012
9:41 am
I accept your surrender, Inciteful.
Next time, try facts.
You know, relevant ones.
Jefferson
July 26th, 2012
9:42 am
Brown eyes, T.
Bob
July 26th, 2012
9:44 am
Do any Obama supporters think that Obama could have stepped in and save the olympics from tanking like Romney did ? This admin has less than 10% of people that worked in the private sector, that is why Obama and his ilk think a strong fed gov is why we have roads and bridges. Business does not live of gov, gov lives off business. If it were not for people engaging in commerce gov would not build one bridge or road.
Tiberius - pulling the tail of the left AND right when needed
July 26th, 2012
9:46 am
“The liberals mainly repeat what the conservatives said about Romney during the primaries.”
And yet, Romney is about to become the GOP nominee, MarkV.
So either the GOP isn’t a party populated with a bunch of die-hard, accept no substitute right wing bigots (as you and your fellow libs like to characterize them), or your statement is pure bunk.
Or both.
Jefferson
July 26th, 2012
9:51 am
Nah, the GOP are a bunch of settlers.
How Inciteful Is That!
July 26th, 2012
9:51 am
I accept your surrender, Tiberius.
Next time, try facts.
You know, relevant ones.
Tiberius - pulling the tail of the left AND right when needed
July 26th, 2012
9:59 am
Let’s see, Inciteful . . .
I have the Bain Capital record of sucess while Romney led the firm.
You have an opinion piece writing in generalities of a particular segment of venture capital.
The facts say Romney created or saved jobs in over 70% of all investments made during his tenure at Bain Capital.
You have – non-specific opinion.
So. Where are YOUR facts?
spiker
July 26th, 2012
10:10 am
Which self would he talk about? His skills as a panderer? His total lack of genuine values?
Romney’s only admirable pose was when he was playing a moderate, pragmatic governor of Massachusetts- and that drives the drooling fools who make up the “core” of the Republican Party nuts… er, nuttier.
It’s clear that he and his campaign know that whatever “self” there is needs to be kept well hidden.
Jefferson
July 26th, 2012
10:11 am
Success at Bain meant profit over jobs, that kind of success ?
carlosgvv
July 26th, 2012
10:15 am
Tiberius- 9:21
You wish
Tiberius - pulling the tail of the left AND right when needed
July 26th, 2012
10:19 am
Thanks for admitting your ignorance about Romney’s leadership at Bain, Jefferson.
Rightwing Troll
July 26th, 2012
10:23 am
He does need to talk about himself more. Now he’s either telling and repeating lies about Obama, or trying to walk back things he said and did as Gov, and he looks like a fool doing it.
Great choice wingnuts! Of course, compared to your track record of late, it really is a great choice…
Jefferson
July 26th, 2012
10:28 am
slam full t, that you are.
@@
July 26th, 2012
10:29 am
Romney would have to use the word “evolved” in order to gain acceptance among liberals. It’s the words that matter.
schnirt
How Inciteful Is That!
July 26th, 2012
10:33 am
As a lobbyist and president of the Salt Lake Organizing Committee, Romney didn’t just stabilize the balance sheet. He brought in a record $1.3 billion in federal dollars for Salt Lake City’s games and more from Utah. In 1996, the Atlanta Summer Olympics cost U.S. taxpayers $609 million. The Salt Lake Tribune wrote in March 2000: “If charming state lawmakers were an Olympic event, Mitt Romney would be draped in a flag about now, singing the national anthem.”
Mitt should definitely focus on his ability to bring in those federal tax dollars… how many of those US tax dollars went to making those off-shore Olympic uniforms?
Jose
July 26th, 2012
10:35 am
all the attacks on Romney and yet he is still polling in a DEAD HEAT with OBAMA even without unleashing counter attacks becasue he can’t spend the money he just raised until he is the official R nominee
THATS A BAD SIGN
Ben the Independent
July 26th, 2012
10:36 am
I don’t know about the quoted poll about ‘wanting to know more about Romney/Obama. I thought Obama’s school records, childhood years, radical associates, etc are a lingering question after 4 years of campaigning/presidency on Obama’s part.
tiredofIT
July 26th, 2012
10:36 am
Documents obtained by the Boston Globe show that the FDIC negotiated a $10 million forgiveness with Bain & Co. while Romney was chairman and CEO in 1993
tiredofIT
July 26th, 2012
10:38 am
Romney was a registered lobbyist for the Salt Lake City Olympics and he attacked his primary opponents for lobbying. Why did Romney shred the records from Salt Lake City Olympics?
Tiberius - pulling the tail of the left AND right when needed
July 26th, 2012
10:40 am
I see the DNC talking points memo has gone out this morning . . .
Bruno
July 26th, 2012
10:40 am
Do any Obama supporters think that Obama could have stepped in and save the olympics from tanking like Romney did ?
Bob–I appreciate the humor this AM.
The prevailing Lib theory seems to be that business experience is somehow a negative when choosing a President. IMO, we NEED someone with business experience right now, someone who has experience balancing the books.
Rightwing Troll
July 26th, 2012
10:41 am
“No surprise here. Based on their vote in 2008, the Dems should hang their heads in shame and beg for forgiveness from their fellow Americans.”
Sure.. when you apologize for 2000, 2004, and 2010…
GT
July 26th, 2012
10:41 am
Who backs Romney? We know nothing about this man or what we see he tells us isn’t real. Romney won’t call the shots, these backers will.
TRUTH
July 26th, 2012
10:42 am
Hey Romney to discuss his personal side….
Problem:
Corporations are people too…
I love to fire people….
We have released all we are going too (tax returns)
I left Bain in 1999….
Kyle I think THAT is his personal side….
I will give him points for courage and his zest for the Presidency…. But he has never been the GOP choice. He still isn’t the GOP choice. The ads from the Obama campaign have been spot on. (I’ve watched Romney’s attack ads and they are mostly from op eds from his listed news sources heck everyone can write what they think…).
And therein lies the rub…. Romney cannot attack and attack without substance. If the presumptive candidate is to sway voters his way, he needs to come up with tangible solutions. Not beat the drum of the standard political rhetoric of the GOP (or whatever it is these days). Easy to state tough to sell. Romney does not exist as 99% of American citizens do. No harm in that in fact kudos from all Americans on your success….but…..your convictions, your lifestyle, do not make you representative of all of us (see reference to the 99% above). Tough sell because Mitt and Ann don’t sit around your dinner table discussing who are we going to pay, how are we going to pay, no one please get sick, stress, they discuss the American Dream. No, this is not a referendum on President Obama. This is an exposing of who truly reflects America. This country is not a corporation. Yet, the GOP’s principles support that. If you frame it in that way, then the corporations have anointed their champion and are now moving to take controlling stock in this country. Hmmm, so they can outsource us?
Never Romney. Never.
OBAMA 2012
How Inciteful Is That!
July 26th, 2012
10:42 am
Tiberius,
You have non-specific opinion.
The facts say Romney couldn’t even keep his own story straight regarding jobs that he claimed to create. He claimed at one extreme that Bain did not create any jobs, then he claimed that Bain created 100,000, then 10,000, then thousands. And of course he claimed to have retired from Bain as he continued to sign off on documents and he conveniently ignored companies with job losses in his claims.
Etch-A-Sketch Mitt. What will he claim next. That he saved the US auto industry. Oh wait…
Bruno
July 26th, 2012
10:42 am
THATS A BAD SIGN
Or a good sign, depending how you are looking at it. A good sign for the country IMO. We’ve tried the spend, spend, spend approach, and all it has done is drive us further in debt.
Tiberius - pulling the tail of the left AND right when needed
July 26th, 2012
10:43 am
Who backs Obama, GT?
Answer: Hollyweird.
Rightwing Troll
July 26th, 2012
10:43 am
” we NEED someone with business experience right now, someone who has experience balancing the books.”
Exactly… cause you know, the last CEO president did so well, and left office with this country in great shape.
schnirt
How Inciteful Is That!
July 26th, 2012
10:44 am
You people know all you need to know about the Romneys so suck it up.
Tiberius - pulling the tail of the left AND right when needed
July 26th, 2012
10:49 am
And since she was addressing someone in the media, Inciteful, Ann Romney’s comment was entirely appropriate.
And in my case, applauded.
But please, provide any proof you may feel shows otherwise.
I shant be holding my breath waiting.
Rafe Hollister, suffering through Oblamer's ineptocracy
July 26th, 2012
10:49 am
You can’t make a silk purse out of a sow’s ear.
Yes, ain’t it the truth. The MSM has been trying for 3.5 years, and hasn’t worked yet.
How Inciteful Is That!
July 26th, 2012
10:50 am
During Romney’s campaign for Massachusetts governor following the games, he boasted of his lobbying abilities. “I’m in favor of getting more money from the federal government. … We need to do a better job getting money from Washington,” he said. “And I’m going to go after the transportation department and get more money there if at all possible. I was successful in doing that in organizing the Olympics — got record funds from the federal government. I’ll do that here.”
There is just so much that Mitt should tell us about.
Jose
July 26th, 2012
10:52 am
all we need to know about obama
this year time spent
107 FUND RAISERS
0 meetings with HIS JOBS COUNCIL
JamVet
July 26th, 2012
10:53 am
Who backs Hollyweird?
Answer: Movie addicted, violence adicted cons.
Ironic.
Hypocritical.
Hysterical.
How Inciteful Is That!
July 26th, 2012
10:54 am
And since she was addressing someone in the media, Inciteful, Ann Romney’s comment was entirely appropriate.
And in my case, applauded.
But please, provide any proof you may feel shows otherwise.
I shant be holding my breath waiting.
Was I actually quoting someone in my 10:44! I hadn’t noticed. And did she really say “You people in the media…”
Oh please, hold your breath, Tiberius, whilst I proceed to inquire.
Tiberius - pulling the tail of the left AND right when needed
July 26th, 2012
10:56 am
Yeah, ’cause states that send so much money to Washington shouldn’t try to get as much of that back.
Let’s just have it taken and allow it to go to another state.
Pathetic, Inciteful. I suggest you bone up on taxes and appropriations to learn how that process works.
Rafe Hollister, suffering through Oblamer's ineptocracy
July 26th, 2012
11:01 am
Inciteful
We need to do a better job getting money from Washington,”
Yep, the job of a governor is to put his bucket under the spigot, while it is flowing freely.
The job of a President, is to turn off or slow down the spigot. That is what Obama is missing and Romney understands.
@@
July 26th, 2012
11:11 am
Rightwing Troll:
” we NEED someone with business experience right now, someone who has experience balancing the books.”
Exactly… cause you know, the last CEO president did so well, and left office with this country in great shape.
schnirt
It’s obvious that my signature “schnirt” is a word that matters to you and a coupl’a others?
Too funny! Originality is not your strong suit.
How Inciteful Is That!
July 26th, 2012
11:18 am
And the job of the Olympic lobbyist is to… create jobs in Burma making Olympic uniforms using federal tax dollars. Of course! Once an outsourcer always an outsourcer. It’s in Mitt’s blood.
Tiberius - pulling the tail of the left AND right when needed
July 26th, 2012
11:18 am
Originality from a lib, @@?
Surely you jest!
These folks have had their ability to think independently from what the State has told them drummed out of them years ago.
Cut and paste wonders, they are.
How Inciteful Is That!
July 26th, 2012
11:21 am
And Tiberius and Rafe continue to support their hypocrite lobbyist, Mitt. That is the same Mitt that attacked Gingrich and Santorum for their lobbyist efforts.
Tiberius - pulling the tail of the left AND right when needed
July 26th, 2012
11:29 am
“And the job of the Olympic lobbyist is to… create jobs in Burma making Olympic uniforms using federal tax dollars.”
You DO realize that the Salt Lake Organizing Committee and the US Olympic Committee are two different organizations, don’t you, Inciteful?
Of course you didn’t!
Which is why you didn’t know that the Organizing Committee headed up by Mitt Romney organized the games and the venues, while the Olympic Committee takes care of the athletes – INCLUDING their uniforms.
Facts are such troublesome things to you, aren’t they?
How Inciteful Is That!
July 26th, 2012
11:31 am
Mitt has agreed to give rights to produce his upcoming movie, “The Adventures of Mittward Scissorhands in the Land of Shredded Douments,” to a little known company headquartered in the Cayman Islands. Details to you people are not likely to follow.
Obama/Biden 2012
July 26th, 2012
11:31 am
If Romney is so proud of his success as a business man, then why is he hiding his tax returns?
How Inciteful Is That!
July 26th, 2012
11:32 am
You do realize that “lobbyist” is not an Olympic event, do you not, Tiberius.
How Inciteful Is That!
July 26th, 2012
11:33 am
Facts elude you, Tiberius.
Tiberius - pulling the tail of the left AND right when needed
July 26th, 2012
11:33 am
“And Tiberius and Rafe continue to support their hypocrite lobbyist, Mitt. That is the same Mitt that attacked Gingrich and Santorum for their lobbyist efforts.”
And were either of them lobbying on behalf of their state, Inciteful?
Of course they weren’t!
Again, research taxes and appropriations, Inciteful. You might actually LEARN SOMETHING.
And tell us what might happen to a governor whose policy it was to simply let Washington D.C. keep all the taxes taken from their state.
Won’t hold my breath on that answer, either.
Bruno
July 26th, 2012
11:34 am
But he has never been the GOP choice. He still isn’t the GOP choice.
TRUTH–I can’t deny your statement. At best, Romney was my third choice for Pres among the Republican candidates, but is definitely my first choice when stacked up against Obama.
Like Kyle, my first choice among all of the candidates who were running was Newt. Somehow, someway, I believe that Romney is a more palatable choice from the Left side of the aisle. In the future, I’ll likely be backing Governor Christie from my home state of NJ. He is smart, compassionate and a straight shooter.
Tiberius - pulling the tail of the left AND right when needed
July 26th, 2012
11:35 am
“If Romney is so proud of his success as a business man, then why is he hiding his tax returns?”
Because they’re none of your damned business, Obama/Biden.
What part of that do you NOT understand?
Bruno
July 26th, 2012
11:36 am
Ironic.
Hypocritical.
Hysterical.
….
Originality from a lib, @@?
What kind of a blog would this be without all of the insults??
the cat
July 26th, 2012
11:36 am
Romeny will not be the nominee so who will take his place? Ron Paul? Michelle Bachman?
Tiberius - pulling the tail of the left AND right when needed
July 26th, 2012
11:37 am
You DO realize your 11:32 and 11:33 were unresponsive answers, don’t you, Inciteful?
Once again, I accept your surrender.
Tiberius - pulling the tail of the left AND right when needed
July 26th, 2012
11:39 am
“Romeny will not be the nominee so who will take his place?”
People should stop drinking during the morning hours, the cat.
Just a little advice.
MadMax
July 26th, 2012
11:39 am
Inciteful – you did see the latest jobs report for Ga? Back over 9% and that doesn’t include the given up. Apparently you think Romney’s tax returns is the most burning issue? It’s the economy!
I demand to see Cheesy Grits Birth Certificate- Long Form Please
July 26th, 2012
11:41 am
Because they’re none of your damned business, Obama/Biden
Actually if the man is going to be President.
THEY ARE MY BUSINESS.
The American people have a right to know if their President is a crook.
Sound familiar.
Obama/Biden 2012
July 26th, 2012
11:42 am
@Tiberius- Well his father George Romney thought it was the American peoples business when he released 10 years worth of tax returns. What is Mitt Romney hiding?
@@
July 26th, 2012
11:43 am
Tiberius:
During GWB’s two terms, the AJC’s liberals were downright angry that he wouldn’t change his direction in National Defense. But it’s okay with them when Obama “evolves” to GWB’s way of thinking.
AJC liberals are weird.
How Inciteful Is That!
July 26th, 2012
11:44 am
Tiberius continues to surrender to me as though he thinks I shall accept. Please do continue to defend your Republican candidate for president. I cannot accept your surrender so long as you have breath in you to defend him for such comic relief is not something to be sacrificed lightly.
How Inciteful Is That!
July 26th, 2012
11:48 am
Apparently you think Romney’s tax returns is the most burning issue? It’s the economy!
Sounds more like Georgia’s Republican party needs to focus on jobs in their next campaign, like they did back in 2010. And where is Romney’s birth certificate. Is it stashed away in the Caymans too!
MadMax
July 26th, 2012
11:49 am
How is releasing tax returns in excess of what is required going to help us find a leader that can turn the economy around. All you’re going to find is that he was successful and he adhered to the law (we have an agency called the IRS for that and if you think that they give the 1%’s a free pass you are really living in the clouds ). You do realize he was in “private” partnerships and releasing his returns without editing would expose his partners to public scrutiny that they did not agree to? He’s complied all he needs to and it’s time to focus on real issues like is the current guy capable and why?
I demand to see Cheesy Grits Birth Certificate- Long Form Please
July 26th, 2012
11:55 am
All you’re going to find is that he was successful
At avoiding paying taxes and stashing money overseas.
Dirty little secret is that the ultra rich is this country have learned how to game the system and pay very very little in taxes.
Your average American pays a much higher percentage of his or her salary in taxes than does Romney and his kind.
That dont wont that secret out under any circumstances. If he has to show those returns and how little he actually did pay in taxes ( Cayman Islands etc ) people are going to be very upset.
There is a reason he isn’t releasing them and that’s the biggest one.
Obama/Biden 2012
July 26th, 2012
11:58 am
@MadMax – Romney couldn’t help create jobs in Massachusettes, so how is he going to turn around 50 states job picture? Answer: He can’t. And Romney created more jobs in India, China and Mexico then he did here in the United States. I’ll pass on Romney
MadMax
July 26th, 2012
11:59 am
I demand to see Cheesy Grits Birth Certificate- Long Form Please
July 26th, 2012
11:55 am
And I demand to see Obama’s agenda for fixing the economy. He’s been in office for over 3 years and he still doesn’t have a plan. When he comes up with one than maybe Mitt will release his return.
Tiberius - pulling the tail of the left AND right when needed
July 26th, 2012
11:59 am
“THEY ARE MY BUSINESS.
The American people have a right to know if their President is a crook.”
And if you have any evidence whatsoever, Cheesy grits, bring it.
But if the IRS doesn’t have any, you’re not going to find any in his tax returns, either.
Peeping Tom.
Obama/Biden 2012
July 26th, 2012
12:02 pm
I’m sorry but if you’re running for President of the United States then you shouldn’t be HIDING things from the American voters.
Tiberius - pulling the tail of the left AND right when needed
July 26th, 2012
12:03 pm
“Well his father George Romney thought it was the American peoples business when he released 10 years worth of tax returns.”
And in case you missed it, Mitt’s first name isn’t George. That particular Romney has left this earth. So it doesn’t really matter in 2012, except to a bunch of Peeping Tom liberals who can’t focus on their own incumbent’s record because it is so woeful.
Romney is rich.
Get over it.
tiredofIT
July 26th, 2012
12:06 pm
If Romney’s claim to fame is business and balancing the “books”, perhaps he should run for congress since they are responsible for spending.
MadMax
July 26th, 2012
12:08 pm
Obama/Biden 2012
July 26th, 2012
11:58 am
Please show me the community organizers plan to create jobs and get the economy moving, I think he has had long enough to study the problem to come up with an intelligent solution. At least we know that Romney has some idea how to run a large organization successfully. All of Obamas experience was about seeing the government as an unlimited supply of grant money. He is totally unprepared for figuring out how tto generate the revenue to keep up with the spending.
I demand to see Cheesy Grits Birth Certificate- Long Form Please
July 26th, 2012
12:09 pm
But if the IRS doesn’t have any, you’re not going to find any in his tax returns, either.
Then why not release them ?
Every other candidate and President have.
Why not Romney ?
Obama/Biden 2012
July 26th, 2012
12:09 pm
@Tiberius Well its not just “Peeping Tom liberals” who are demanding that Mittens release his tax returns. The governor of Alabama and Texas have told him to release them. As well as Haley Barbour, Ron Paul, Bill Kristol, and many other CONSERVATIVE REPUBLICANS have said so on record.
Tiberius - pulling the tail of the left AND right when needed
July 26th, 2012
12:09 pm
“Romney couldn’t help create jobs in Massachusettes, so how is he going to turn around 50 states job picture? Answer: He can’t. And Romney created more jobs in India, China and Mexico then he did here in the United States.”
Is there any wonder that the blogger who takes the name of the single most lying campaign in the history of this nation, can’t tell the truth in their comments?
We’ve already learned that the Massachusetts unemployment rate was in the top third of the states when Romney was governor, and that it dropped from 6+% to 4+% during his term. So that is Obama’s first lie.
We’ve already leaned that Bain Capital did outsource jobs to other countries, but that it’s record under Romney’s leadership was not one of outsourcing but of job creation and saving in the U.S. Obama’s second lie.
Obama/Biden? Next time try facts, rather than DNC talking points which have already been debunked for months.
Tiberius - pulling the tail of the left AND right when needed
July 26th, 2012
12:11 pm
“Then why not release them ?”
Because some people smarter than you refuse to give you more useless talking points to attack his wealth.
‘Cause that’s all you’ve got, Cheesy Grits.
How Inciteful Is That!
July 26th, 2012
12:11 pm
According to the Boston Globe, Securites and Exchange Commission documents filed by Bain Capital after February 1999 list Romney as the private equity firm’s “stole stockholder, chairman of the board, chief executive officer, and president.”
Uh Oh.
How Inciteful Is That!
July 26th, 2012
12:12 pm
The Globe also found financial disclosure forms filed by Romney that indicate he still owned 100 percent of Bain in 2002, and earned at least $100,000 as an “executive” for the firm in 2001 and 2002.
More Uh Oh.
Tiberius - pulling the tail of the left AND right when needed
July 26th, 2012
12:13 pm
“The governor of Alabama and Texas have told him to release them. As well as Haley Barbour, Ron Paul, Bill Kristol,”
Please tell us how many successful national campaigns for elected office any of the above have run / won?
And why should Romney be listening to them?
Or to you?
Obama/Biden 2012
July 26th, 2012
12:13 pm
@MadMax – Just because you’re uninformed and don’t know what the President’s jobs plan is, doesn’t mean the rest of American is in the dark. Turn off Faux News and turn to a real news program and educate yourself. The President has been talking about the US economy and jobs programs for the past 3 and a half years. WAKE UP. Just because republicans oppose everything he has put forth doesn’t mean that it isn’t there.
@@
July 26th, 2012
12:14 pm
Did anybody see Tom Coburn on Greta last night? It would appear the federal government’s “jobs training programs” are suckin’ wind AND tax dollars.
Coburn’s report states duplicative and wasteful federal programs don’t help job seekers or employers in Oklahoma despite costing $164 million per year
He said with all the administration’s talk about eliminating duplicate programs, absolutely nothing has been done to follow thru on that commitment.
How Inciteful Is That!
July 26th, 2012
12:15 pm
As The Huffington Post reported, sworn testimony given by Romney in 2002 undermined his claims that he left Bain in 1999. In that testimony, given as part of a hearing to determine if he had sufficient Massachusetts residency to run for governor, Romney said that he “remained on the board” of the LifeLike Co., which Bain held a stake in at the time.
LifeLike’s 2000 corporate filing, filed with the state of Colorado, lists Romney as a director.
Uh Oh again.
I demand to see Cheesy Grits Birth Certificate- Long Form Please
July 26th, 2012
12:15 pm
Romney is rich.
But how did he get rich ?
When you run for public office you give up certain private things and your finances are one of them.
Sorry your argument doesn’t hold water.
He knows people will be very upset when they see how much money he stashed overseas and how little he paid in taxes. Nothing illegal about it. Just not going to be very popular with Joe 6 pack. Either way this isn’t going away and coupled with Bain mean almost certain defeat for Romney.
He already had a tough road against Obama. Electoral college maps show Romney must win almost every toss up state to barely win. All Obama needs is one or two of them.
Unless Obama blows it in the debates ( which is highly unlikely ) he will win.
Obama/Biden 2012
July 26th, 2012
12:16 pm
@Tiberius – Mitt Romney can’t even tell the truth of how long he worked at Bain Capital – the company HE CREATED! And why was the state of Massachusettes 47th in job growth under Governor Romney? 47th!!! Those are facts not talking points.
How Inciteful Is That!
July 26th, 2012
12:16 pm
HuffPost’s Jason Cherkis and Ryan Grim identified at least six documents filed by Bain Capital with the SEC from 1999 to 2001 that were signed by Mitt Romney. Most of the documents refer to Romney as the “reporting person.”
At least he was only a “reporting person” in those cases.
Goldie
July 26th, 2012
12:17 pm
Etch-A-Sketch says: “Move along… nothing to see here!”
Tiberius - pulling the tail of the left AND right when needed
July 26th, 2012
12:17 pm
“The Globe also found financial disclosure forms filed by Romney that indicate he still owned 100 percent of Bain in 2002, and earned at least $100,000 as an “executive” for the firm in 2001 and 2002.”
Minor problem, Inciteful.
Romney never owned 100% of Bain Capital.
The Boston Globe is a shill for the local Democrat party, and has been for my entire lifetime. NOT a credible source of facts.
I demand to see Cheesy Grits Birth Certificate- Long Form Please
July 26th, 2012
12:17 pm
Did anybody see Tom Coburn on Greta last night?
Don’t really watch GOPTV.
You do know that Greta is a Scientologist too right ?
Talk about a corrupt group.
How Inciteful Is That!
July 26th, 2012
12:17 pm
HuffPost reported on a 2002 corporate document filed with the state of Massachusetts that shows Romney listed as one of two managing members of Bain Capital Investors, an entity of the private equity firm.
Shouldn’t that say “retired managing member.”
Tiberius - pulling the tail of the left AND right when needed
July 26th, 2012
12:18 pm
“And why was the state of Massachusettes 47th in job growth under Governor Romney?”
They weren’t. Already debunked.
MadMax
July 26th, 2012
12:18 pm
Inciteful – tell us something we didn’t know. And your guy’s autobiography has made up accounts of convrersations and events that didn’t occur. So what! What’s Obama doing about jobs?
How Inciteful Is That!
July 26th, 2012
12:19 pm
Romney signed an SEC filing in November 1999 pursuant to Bain’s partial acquisition of medical-waste firm Stericycle, Mother Jones reported. The filing noted that he was the “sole shareholder, Chairman, Chief Executive Officer and President” of the Bain entities involved in the $75 million deal.
Stericycle! That sounds like a bad cycle to be on. What would Mitt want with that. In November of 1999.
Goldie
July 26th, 2012
12:20 pm
Hold your noses, Cons — Mitt rose to the top of your cesspool of candidates in 2012… pee-ewwww!
How Inciteful Is That!
July 26th, 2012
12:21 pm
Talking Points Memo uncovered two SEC filings from July 2000 and February 2001. In both, Romney lists his “principal occupation” as “Managing Director of Bain Capital, Inc.”
Clearly another misprint, right. That should have been “Retired Managing Director of Bain Capital, Inc.”
@@
July 26th, 2012
12:23 pm
Cheesy:
You do know that Greta is a Scientologist too right ?
Another person’s religion is of no interest to me. People are free to practice as they please.
How Inciteful Is That!
July 26th, 2012
12:23 pm
A former Bain Capital partner, Ed Conard, said during an appearance on MSNBC’s “Up W/Chris Hayes” that Romney was “legally” the CEO and sole owner of Bain Capital until 2002, as an ownership battle dragged on after Romney left to take over the Salt Lake City Olympics.
Probably just the rantings of a disgruntled employee partner.
MadMax
July 26th, 2012
12:23 pm
Obama/Biden 2012
July 26th, 2012
12:13 pm
Please enlighten us that live in the dark with your insight on the jobs plan. I hven’t seen the progress but since you say he’s been doing it, it should be easy for you to tell us what it is. I guess he does it on the plabne while going between fundraisers.
Rafe Hollister, suffering through Oblamer's ineptocracy
July 26th, 2012
12:25 pm
tiredofit
If Romney’s claim to fame is business and balancing the “books”,
Well, at least he can claim that, I have never figured out what Obama’s claim to fame is, other than he reads well from the teleprompter. We know economics is not something he is good at.
How Inciteful Is That!
July 26th, 2012
12:26 pm
According at a document filed with the California Secretary of State’s office in July 1999, Romney was listed as a “general partner” at Bain Capital Partners. Romney’s signature appears on the document.
Romney remained on record as a general partner until California was notified of his resignation in June 2003.
Is that a higher ranking than a major partner.
I demand to see Cheesy Grits Birth Certificate- Long Form Please
July 26th, 2012
12:26 pm
Another person’s religion is of no interest to me. People are free to practice as they please.
Normally I would agree but Scientology is not a religion.
Its a scam and she is a part of it. It ruins peoples lives.
Obama/Biden 2012
July 26th, 2012
12:28 pm
@MadMax – Better yet, what is Mittens plans for the US economy should he win the White House? (God forbid) Oh that’s right his plans are the same as George W. Bush’s plans 2.0. And we all know how well that has worked for the US and middle Americans. No Thanks!!
I demand to see Cheesy Grits Birth Certificate- Long Form Please
July 26th, 2012
12:28 pm
Well, at least he can claim that, I have never figured out what Obama’s claim to fame is, other than he reads well from the teleprompter.
I love the teleprompter lines.
Just wait till the debates. Cheesy grits wont have one either.
Its gonna be a slaughter.
Rafe Hollister, suffering through Oblamer's ineptocracy
July 26th, 2012
12:29 pm
Inciteful
that Romney was “legally” the CEO
Legally the owner of the Atlanta Braves is Liberty Media. They are not however, making any trades, doing any signings, or participating in the day to day operation of the club.
How Inciteful Is That!
July 26th, 2012
12:30 pm
“We are holding an Olympic Games in one of the busiest, most active, bustling cities anywhere in the world. Of course, it’s easier if you hold an Olympic Games in the middle of nowhere,” Cameron said in response to Romney’s ill-conceived rant.
Salt Lake City is so not in the middle of nowhere. Right, Mitt.
Goldie
July 26th, 2012
12:30 pm
Mitt won’t even answer questions about his wife’s horse in the Olympics:
“I have to tell you, this is Ann’s sport. I’m not even sure which day the sport goes on,” Romney said. “She will get the chance to see it, I will not be watching the event. I hope her horse does well. …” NBC interview with Brian Williams.
and then he could have added: “Move along now… nothing to see here!”
MadMax
July 26th, 2012
12:31 pm
Obama/Biden 2012
July 26th, 2012
12:28 pm
Thank you for admitting you don’t have a clue what Obama’s plan is.
How Inciteful Is That!
July 26th, 2012
12:34 pm
I wonder what Rafe thinks a legal CEO is supposed to do to earn his or her keep. Stay out of the way, perhaps, so the working underpaid can get things done. Sounds like a basis for cutting CEO pay to some lower ratio relative to other employees to me. That’s an excellent idea you have there, Rafe.
Rafe Hollister, suffering through Oblamer's ineptocracy
July 26th, 2012
12:34 pm
Finn, aka Cheesy
The debates are going to be a hoot. Obama is going to do everything he can to steer the debate onto the side issues and Romney is going to keep bringing the discussion back to Obama’s lousy record and lack of a plan for the future.
MarkV
July 26th, 2012
12:35 pm
One of the many double standards of Romney’s supporters:
When the matter is something done anywhere by the Obama’s government that can be criticized, it is always Obama’s fault, even if he was not involved in any way in the decision making, because “the buck stops there,” he is the head, he is responsible. But when Romney is quite officially listed as CEO of a company, he is not responsible for what the company did because “he was not involved.”
How Inciteful Is That!
July 26th, 2012
12:36 pm
Okay. I must depart for a while. There is only so much fun I can handle in one sitting. You loyalist Republicans keep up the Mitt defense now, ya hear.
Jefferson
July 26th, 2012
12:37 pm
It appears that Mr Romney’s pants are indeed on fire.
Rafe Hollister, suffering through Oblamer's ineptocracy
July 26th, 2012
12:39 pm
Obama’s not top secret plan for jobs and to improve the economy. A six point economic plan.
Step 1. Raise taxes
Step 2 Raise taxes
Step 3 Blame Bush
Step 4 Blame GOP for being obstructionist
Step 5 Print more money
Step 6 Raise Taxes
Jim in Tampa
July 26th, 2012
12:39 pm
Romney is so shallow, he is just another rich man who thinks his money qualifies him to “take his turn as President”. We need a President like Obama who takes policy stands for the greatest number of Americans. I am still so amazed how most of the GOP candidates persuade so many voters to vote for candidates and support policies that are against their interest.
I demand to see Cheesy Grits Birth Certificate- Long Form Please
July 26th, 2012
12:41 pm
The debates are going to be a hoot.
Yes they will be. Romney will finally have to answer some tough questions instead of just saying Obama is wrong about everything.
He finally will have to take a stance on the issues. I hope he has his etch a sketch ready.
Its gonna be hilarious.
Jose
July 26th, 2012
12:41 pm
THIS IS THE ALL THAT ROMNEY NEEDS TO KEEP REPEATING
OBAMA 2012
107 FUND RAISERS
0 meetings with HIS JOBS COUNCIL
I Report (-: You Whine )-: mmm, mmmm, mmmmm! Just sayin...
July 26th, 2012
12:43 pm
Won’t it be great when bookman comes off of vacation and all these mealy mouthed liberals run back into his sewer?
Rafe Hollister, suffering through Oblamer's ineptocracy
July 26th, 2012
12:43 pm
Inciteful
Not a business major I see, CEO job is to make the company profitable and therefore successful, any way he/she deems appropriate. If that means letting the people, who know the business better than he/she, make the everyday decisions, then that is his/her choice. Choices, they are just so important in life!
Those who make bad choices, make good excuses!
Rafe Hollister, suffering through Oblamer's ineptocracy
July 26th, 2012
12:48 pm
Jose
Good line, but the ole Reagan line of, “Are you better off today, than you were 4 years ago?” pretty much ends the discussion, for most rational people.
I demand to see Cheesy Grits Birth Certificate- Long Form Please
July 26th, 2012
12:49 pm
It is amazing.
Romney is worth hundreds of millions of dollars and has no idea how to relate to the average American. His wife has a horse that costs more to feed than most make in 2 years.
Obama grew up in a broken home and earned his way to the top. He and his wife only recently paid of their student loans.
Who do you think better understands the problems of ordinary Americans ?
I’m sure Romney is good in a pinch when the caviar runs low at a Polo match.
Obama/Biden 2012
July 26th, 2012
12:50 pm
@MadMax – And I find it hilarious that you can’t name one single thing that Romney would do as President that GW Bush hasn’t already done for the economy. *EPIC FAIL*
Rafe Hollister, suffering through Oblamer's ineptocracy
July 26th, 2012
12:51 pm
Won’t it be great when bookman comes off of vacation and all these mealy mouthed liberals run back into his sewer?
Well, a week in Reality Camp, has probably been good for them. Over there, everyone agrees that Barry is the cats pajamas and headed for a Coronation on 20 Jan.
You cry like babies
July 26th, 2012
12:52 pm
I report
Why are you no longer at Bookman’s?
You elected to go?
Rafe Hollister, suffering through Oblamer's ineptocracy
July 26th, 2012
12:54 pm
ObamaBiden
one single thing that Romney would do as President that GW Bush hasn’t already done for the economy. *EPIC FAIL*
Here is one, stop the stupid government spending.
You cry like babies
July 26th, 2012
12:55 pm
Rafe
No coronation, but it is Romney who has the uphill battle.
Going to be close, either way. It will not be the whooping that your boy McCain took
I demand to see Cheesy Grits Birth Certificate- Long Form Please
July 26th, 2012
12:55 pm
“Are you better off today, than you were 4 years ago?”
I think most would say yes.
Considering how the economy was basically going in the tank when Obama took office.
Bush himself said ” this sucker could go down ”
He at a minimum has stabilized things.
You cry like babies
July 26th, 2012
12:56 pm
“Here is one, stop the stupid government spending.”
Well actually he is on record saying that if the economy continue to be stagnated, he will not be doing much cutting.
Rafe Hollister, suffering through Oblamer's ineptocracy
July 26th, 2012
12:56 pm
Obama grew up in a broken home and earned his way to the top.
HOW????
America would like to know, HOW?
Rightwing Troll
July 26th, 2012
12:59 pm
“Just wait till the debates. Cheesy grits wont have one either.
Its gonna be a slaughter.”
The Romnet that was Gov of Mass was a very smart man, the Romney that we see now, well he sounds like an idiot trying to walk the fine line of walking back all his words and actions of the past while not admitting any of it ever happened.
The debates will be interesting.
Rightwing Troll
July 26th, 2012
1:02 pm
“I report
Why are you no longer at Bookman’s?
You elected to go?”
He welched out on a bet and couldn’t live it down, and he got tired of having his a$$ handed to him, so he came over here to bloviate amongst like minded folks…
Obama/Biden 2012
July 26th, 2012
1:03 pm
Conservative New Hampshire Union Leader Newspaper calls on Romney to release his tax returns!
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/07/26/new-hampshire-union-leader-romney-returns_n_1705381.html?utm_hp_ref=politics
Rafe Hollister, suffering through Oblamer's ineptocracy
July 26th, 2012
1:04 pm
Finn @ 12:55
I guess if you have been approved for food stamps and you didn’t have them under Bush, you could consider yourself better off. The 37% of Americans that are now part of a household that receives some gov assistance, may consider themselves better off, but are they? Is having your basic needs met, better than having a job and some self esteem.
Working people are not better off. Household wealth increased by something like 40% under Clinton, under Barry it has decreased something like 30%.
Jefferson
July 26th, 2012
1:06 pm
Romney wants to know if anyone can change his swiss francs….
@@
July 26th, 2012
1:08 pm
Won’t it be great when bookman comes off of vacation and all these mealy mouthed liberals run back into his sewer?
I was thinking the very same thing this morning.
Looters on compooters, I tell ‘ya.
Rafe Hollister, suffering through Oblamer's ineptocracy
July 26th, 2012
1:08 pm
New Hampshire Union Leader Newspaper calls on Romney to release his tax returns!
Rafe Hollister is calling on Barry Obama to release his social security records, so that we can see why he has a number normally issued to people living in CT, when he has never lived there.
No one cares what either I or the Union Leader want.
@@
July 26th, 2012
1:11 pm
Obama wants to know if anyone can change his diapers.
Now ^^^ see! There I go sounding like a liberal.
the cat
July 26th, 2012
1:12 pm
The main problem Romoney will have in the debates is he has flipped and lied so many times he would need 500 index cards for the answers. Will be hilarious to watch.
Jefferson
July 26th, 2012
1:16 pm
Rafe, you heard of that guy but he hasn’t heard of you, you may be giving yourself too much credit.
You cry like babies
July 26th, 2012
1:17 pm
Sure is great to have a choice to post on Bookman or Wingfield’s blogs. Thanks guys
Some have abused their privileges and now they can only post at one or the other. Those seem to be the ones who seem to be the angriest at those who have elected not to abuse the privalege.
Can you say irony?
Rightwing Troll
July 26th, 2012
1:28 pm
“Working people are not better off. Household wealth increased by something like 40% under Clinton, under Barry it has decreased something like 30%.”
Not surprisingly… there’s an 8 year gap in your stats… much like the 8 year gap in the collective memories of the “conservative” posters here… why is this… hmmmm?
@@
July 26th, 2012
1:40 pm
Haven’t commented on the Anglo-Saxon “heresy”…but this guy sums it up pretty well. With him, I agree.
What’s wrong with America having Anglo-Saxon heritage?
==================================
You cry:
Some have abused their privileges and now they can only post at one or the other.
Oh really? Follow me to the other blog. I’ll leave you a message.
I choose to be here.
I Report (-: You Whine )-: mmm, mmmm, mmmmm! Just sayin...
July 26th, 2012
1:47 pm
I also have chose to be here and have left several messages over yonder to prove it. If I went over there and started taunting the crybaby liberals like you cry and troll are doing here right now, I would get “banned.”
Some blog hosts are more tolerable to such things, most likely because they don’t have a bunch of whiny liberals ringing their phone off the hook.
You cry like babies
July 26th, 2012
1:56 pm
@@
I do not recall saying your name in my post, but if the shoe fits……
It certainly does for several bloggers.
carry on
You cry like babies
July 26th, 2012
1:58 pm
“most likely because they don’t have a bunch of whiny liberals ringing their phone off the hook.”
Probably best for you to go back and check who was crying a few weeks ago. It was one of your right leaning friends who was going to sue the world.
But I digress.
Have a great day
Tealiban Party
July 26th, 2012
2:02 pm
Not only does Romney have the same disasterous economic plan as Bush, he also has the same foreign policy agenda as Bush — upset and insult our allies….
Romney Offends Britain: Questions ‘Disconcerting’ Signs U.K. Is Not Ready For The Olympics
http://www.mediaite.com/tv/romney-offends-britain-questions-disconcerting-signs-u-k-is-not-ready-for-the-olympics/
@@
July 26th, 2012
2:04 pm
Have a great day
You too…preferably somewhere else since you’re not having such a good day here.
fair and balanced
July 26th, 2012
2:05 pm
“We have given you people all the information you need” Now let me get back to the design of my car elevator and my dancing horse. Anybody have some Grey Poupon?
Up Up and Away
July 26th, 2012
2:10 pm
How are the Electoral College projections looking at this time?
@@
July 26th, 2012
2:11 pm
The U-turn president: Barack Obama’s top ten flip-flops
Obama, pledging to restore America’s standing in the world but lowering it instead
A key foreign policy theme of the Obama presidential election campaign was the notion that President Bush had damaged America’s image on the world stage, with his supposedly ‘cowboy’ policies. In the words of a campaign document, “Barack Obama and Joe Biden will restore America’s standing in the world by providing a new American leadership to meet the challenges of a new century”.
As president, however, Obama has done exactly the opposite, insulting key allies such as Great Britain, Israel and Poland.
Up Up and Away
July 26th, 2012
2:14 pm
@@: If you do not like flip flops, guess you will not be voting for Obama nor Romney, correct?
“I believe that since Roe v. Wade has been the law for 20 years we should sustain and support it.” Source
“Roe v. Wade has gone too far.” Source
“I don’t line up with the NRA.” Source
“I’m a member of the [NRA].” Source
“I like mandates. The mandates work.” Source
“I think it’s unconstitutional on the 10th Amendment front.” Source
“I respect and will protect a woman’s right to choose.” Source
“I never really called myself pro-choice.” Source
“I saw my father march with Martin Luther King.” Source
“I did not see it with my own eyes.” Source
“I supported the assault weapon ban.” Source
“I don’t support any gun control legislation.” Source
“I think the minimum wage ought to keep pace with inflation.” Source
“There’s no question raising the minimum wage excessively causes a loss of jobs.” Source
“I will work and fight for stem cell research.” Source
“In the end, I became persuaded that the stem-cell debate was grounded in a false premise.” Source
“I would like to have campaign spending limits.” Source
“The American people should be free to advocate for their candidates and their positions without burdensome limitations.” Source
“I’m a strong believer in stating your position and not wavering.” Source
“I changed my position.” Source
“Detroit needs a turnaround, not a check.” Source
“I’ll take a lot of credit for the fact that this industry’s come back.” Source
“I’m not in favor of privatizing Social Security or making cuts.” Source
“Social Security’s the easiest and that’s because you can give people a personal account.” Source
“I’m not trying to return to Reagan-Bush.” Source
“Ronald Reagan is… my hero.” Source
Up Up and Away
July 26th, 2012
2:15 pm
continued
“I’ve been a hunter pretty much all my life.” Source
“Any description of my being a hunter is an overstatement of capability.” Source
“If Massachusetts succeeds in implementing it, then that will be a model for the nation.” Source
“What works in one state may not be the answer for another.” Source
“It was not my desire to go off and serve in Vietnam.” Source
“I longed in many respects to actually be in Vietnam and be representing our country there.” Source
“It’s a tax cut for fat cats.” Source
“I believe the tax on capital gains should be zero.” Source
“It’s not worth moving heaven and earth spending billions of dollars just trying to catch one person.” Source
“He’s going to pay, and he will die.” Source
“Relative to the leading candidates, some people see me as being more conservative.” Source
“I’m not the most conservative candidate.” “I’m not the most conservative candidate.” Source
“The TARP program… was nevertheless necessary to keep banks from collapsing in a cascade of failures.” Source
“When government is… bailing out banks… we have every good reason to be alarmed.” Source
“These carbon emission limits will provide real and immediate progress.” Source
“Republicans should never abandon pro-growth conservative principles in an effort to embrace the ideas of Al Gore.” Source
“This is a completely airtight kennel mounted on the top of our car.” Source
‘They’re not happy that my dog loves fresh air.” Source
“Those… paying taxes and not taking government benefits should begin a process toward application for citizenship.” Source
“Amnesty only led to more people coming into the country.” Source
“When I first heard of the Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell policy, I thought it sounded awfully silly.” Source
“Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell has worked well.” Source
Tiberius - pulling the tail of the left AND right when needed
July 26th, 2012
2:16 pm
“We have given you people all the information you need”
When speaking to a member of the media, that was not only a correct, but laudable thing for Ann Romney to say.
“You people” meaning “the media”.
Class dismissed, fair and balanced.
Tiberius - pulling the tail of the left AND right when needed
July 26th, 2012
2:21 pm
I see that Up Up and Away has been taking in the DNC talking points today.
Intelligent people don’t rely on snippets of quotes to make an informed decision about who should be President.
We leave the uninformed decisions to the Democrats.
Tiberius - pulling the tail of the left AND right when needed
July 26th, 2012
2:23 pm
“How are the Electoral College projections looking at this time?”
Just as meaningless today as they will be next month, and as meaningless as they were last month.
Thanks for asking.
Up Up and Away
July 26th, 2012
2:24 pm
Tiberius
I believe it was Romney himself when quoting Obama just last week said……. “He said what he said and I take his word on it”
As for the number of issues on that list, some are bs, but clearly even Stevie Wonder can see the run to the right to solidify the social conservative vote.
But you spin all you like. Hopefully it will assist in your self esteem.
Up Up and Away
July 26th, 2012
2:26 pm
So meaningless that both campaings are drawing their battle plans and putting in resources in the battle ground states based on their own polling and external polling.
Yep, it means nothing. You spin so much you must get dizzy or you take Dramamine before you blog
Goldie
July 26th, 2012
2:27 pm
Oh, the words from Mitt’s mouth… flip, flop and LIE about it!
“I’m not familiar precisely with what I said, but I’ll stand by what I said, whatever it was.”
Bwaaaaaa!
KJ
July 26th, 2012
2:27 pm
If people are so concerned about Romney’s off shore accounts, then we should request all of congress to release their tax information as well. At least Romney paid his taxes. You can’t say that about our some of our congressional leadership, now can you? And stop fooling yourselves, Obama has his money hidden too, but nobody seems to care about equality. Look back his Obama’s salary hx. Isn’t it convenient he didn’t report his million dollar salary this year so he can claim to be part of the middle class?
Up Up and Away
July 26th, 2012
2:28 pm
Tiberius
They are both flip floppers. Don’t be so blind as to only see the hypocrisy of one side.
Nothing new.
Tiberius - pulling the tail of the left AND right when needed
July 26th, 2012
2:30 pm
“but clearly even Stevie Wonder can see the run to the right to solidify the social conservative vote.”
So? Isn’t the objective to being able to enact your polices (and more importantly, stop this disaster of a President from doing more harm) to get elected first?
I don’t understand this sudden concern for politicians who don’t remain rigid in their ideology their entire lives. That just proves they aren’t smart enough to realize they don’t know everything.
Up Up and Away
July 26th, 2012
2:31 pm
Tiberius
Then why say something to me and not a word to the blogger who posted Obama’s flip flops.
Clearly even you can see your bias.
Up Up and Away
July 26th, 2012
2:33 pm
Tiberius
As you may or may not have noted, I did not defend Obama for his numerous flip flops and bs. Just merely showing that it is a two way street. If the blogger who posted Obama’s flip flops can not see Romney’s flips flops, not much can be said.
Tiberius - pulling the tail of the left AND right when needed
July 26th, 2012
2:34 pm
Up Up and Away, you need to learn something about me. Be precise in your wording or I will call out your nonsense for what it is.
You asked about Electoral College projections, which are, in fact meaningless until the final 2-3 weeks of a campaign.
You said nothing about their importance, which your follow-on comment addressed. Battleground states are important, or they wouldn’t be called battleground states. That they are important is why they are expending resources in them.
The polls are NOT a valid reason why they are there.
Tiberius - pulling the tail of the left AND right when needed
July 26th, 2012
2:36 pm
Pardon me for not addressing each and every post made on this blog, Up Up and Away.
It is just not that important to me to run through them all when I have been gone for a bit.
Up Up and Away
July 26th, 2012
2:37 pm
Tiberius
I need not learn nor care anything about you. No offense, but I do not know or care to know you.
Say what you wish and I will do the same. You come across as thinking you are some big shot of the blog. Whoooooppppppppeeeeeeeeee
End of story.
Tiberius - pulling the tail of the left AND right when needed
July 26th, 2012
2:45 pm
And btw, Up Up and Away, anybody with access to two posts worth of Romney “flip-flops” at the ready has no business calling out someone for being biased.
Just sayin’!
Up Up and Away
July 26th, 2012
2:59 pm
“As you may or may not have noted, I did not defend Obama for his numerous flip flops and bs. Just merely showing that it is a two way street. If the blogger who posted Obama’s flip flops can not see Romney’s flips flops, not much can be said.”
Anyone can google either candidate’s flip flops in 5 seconds. No need for you to act less intelligent than you really are.
Just saying
gm
July 26th, 2012
3:31 pm
Amazing how the right wing jobs, swallow their character when it comes to their own, they made excuses for Newt, now they make excuses for Willard Gekko.
This man insults them in every way, every one knows this guy sent thousands of jobs overseas, yet these people who claim they love America close their eyes, he will not show his taxes because he knows if it shows billions of dollars made, how can he stand in front of poor, middle class whites and say he understand your pain.
The man will not talk about his record as Gov because it was terrible he quite because he knew he would not get relected, how about all the gov assistance he received for helping with the Olympics he never mentions that, no way this guy could stand in front of the left will this history, and the right think they are smart ha, ha,
BlueinRed
July 26th, 2012
3:53 pm
@ gm – Great post.
I Report (-: You Whine )-: mmm, mmmm, mmmmm! Just sayin...
July 26th, 2012
4:57 pm
Notice how liberals insult Conservatives by calling them gay?
Tells you what they really think about such things, despite what talking points they regurgitate.
fair and balanced
July 26th, 2012
6:10 pm
Those tax returns are released to the public to better see who “we the people” are putting in office. They are not just released to the media. The little people do know how to read a tax return and see that someone has way understated the value of investments put in their IRA. Most of the little people would get audited for that. It is not up to the Romneys to decide what questions “we the people” have about their finances. I never heard any president or his wife be so dismissive and arrogant.
independent thinker
July 27th, 2012
7:44 am
Charles Krauthammer who is as right wing as you can get gave Mitt the golden dufus award for his performance in England. No wonder Mitt cannot define himself -when he does he puts his foot in his mouth. Somebody needs to strap him to the top of a jet and bring him home. Send Sarah instead.
gm
July 27th, 2012
8:11 am
If any one think this man should be President need their head checked, this man is already a joke around the world Bush 2, yet we have the retards on the right who care nothing about the image of the President.
President Obama by far represent America the way it should be, it has taken him 3 years to clean up the last idiot in the White house, now here comes iditot number 2, please bigots and haters on the right its about America””””’