Did Jeb Bush really say today’s GOP would spurn Reagan?
A lot of people seem much more confident than I about what Jeb Bush meant in this rambling statement he made to Bloomberg:
“Ronald Reagan would have, based on his record of finding accommodation, finding some degree of common ground, similar to my dad, they would have a hard time if you define the Republican Party — and I don’t — as having an orthodoxy that doesn’t allow for disagreement.”
Come again?
Streamline the statement, and it would appear the former Florida governor said:
“Ronald Reagan … based on his record of finding … common ground, similar to my dad … would have a hard time if you define the Republican Party … as having an orthodoxy that doesn’t allow for disagreement.”
That’s how it’s being interpreted on the left, anyway. But Bush himself doesn’t even agree with that statement, as the “and I don’t” interjection makes clear. Instead, he appears to be agreeing with liberals that their common complaint that today’s GOP is out of step with Reaganism would be true, if only it weren’t false. Why he would put himself in the position of confirming a liberal straw man only to knock it down — knowing the confirmation would get more press — I do not know.
As we discussed just Friday, however, context is always helpful. And Bush book-ended the aforementioned statement with these:
“They got a lot of things done with bipartisan support, but right now it’s just difficult to imagine.”
and
“We’re in a political system in general that is in a very different place right now.”
Well, if Republican presidents used to be able to accomplish things “with bipartisan support,” and now that’s “difficult to imagine,” whose fault might that be? Bipartisanship requires two parties, so we can only guess he can’t see the Democrats going along if Reagan or Bush’s father were president today. Which is very different from the interpretation that today’s Republicans are out of step with their own predecessors.
The current president is a Democrat, so was Bush chiding the Republican members of Congress? Maybe, but that’s not necessarily what the rest of the Bloomberg report indicates:
Bush also criticized Obama for placing political gain ahead of negotiation in Washington — citing the failure of the president’s task force on debt and spending led by former Senator Alan Simpson of Wyoming and Erskine Bowles, a former chief of staff to former President Bill Clinton.
“If he was a transcendent figure, which is what he ran as, I think he’s failed,” Bush said of Obama.
The president “had a chance” to address the long-term deficit with the remedy that Simpson and Bowles recommended, a package of taxes and spending cuts, he said, but didn’t “for political reasons.”
“It was purely a political calculation,” he said. “He created Simpson-Bowles and then abandoned it at birth.”
In other words, you have an elder statesman of the Republican Party saying a Democratic president failed to lead on an important issue. Which isn’t much of a story — or wouldn’t be, if a certain elder Democratic statesman hadn’t had so much trouble staying on message lately.
As for Bush’s line about having “a political system in general that is in a very different place right now,” I agree. Once upon a time, both sides in an argument presented their solutions, upon which they could negotiate a compromise. Today, we have a House Republican budget that is dismissed out of hand by Senate Democrats; transparently base-pandering budgets from the president which Senate Democrats have declined to endorse; and the failure of Senate Democrats to produce any kind of budget of their own for more than three years running.
Do you notice a common thread there?
Senate Democrats, and White House aides giving them cover, like to blame GOP obstructionism for this abdication of their responsibilities. But budget bills are not subject to cloture rules. Harry Reid could bring a budget to a vote any time he wanted and pass it with just 51 votes, or 50 votes plus Vice President Biden as a tiebreaker. Of course, that would require his fellow Democrats running the chamber’s committees to produce a budget that could be voted upon.
Instead, they seem to adopt the stance Treasury Secretary Timothy Geithner took earlier this year toward the House GOP plan on behalf of the Obama administration:
We’re not coming before you to say we have a definitive solution to our long-term problem. What we do know is we don’t like yours.
If Bush, or anyone else, wants to complain about do-nothingism and the lack of compromise, they ought to recognize that each side has to declare what it wants before the other can meet it halfway.
– By Kyle Wingfield
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June 11th, 2012
5:15 pm
Hillbilly D,
Do you have any specifics to share that you draw on to formulate that opinion?
Fred ™
June 11th, 2012
5:16 pm
Lil’ Barry Bailout (Unexpectedly Revised Downward–Again)
June 11th, 2012
5:15 pm
What’s our credit rating? Somewhere south of perfect? And we had that problem how long out of hoe many centuries of doing business?
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We had that problem at the same time we started thinking it was OK to run $1.5 trillion deficits every year.
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And when was that/ The first Bush unfunded war or the second one? Would that be 2001, 2002/ or 2003 and beyond?
yuzeyurbrane
June 11th, 2012
5:18 pm
Kyle, you are an excellent wordsmith but as far as logic goes you outdid yourself with the mental gymnastics required to reach your conclusions. You must have won the Boy Scout knot contest when you were a kid.
Rafe Hollister
June 11th, 2012
5:19 pm
The Libs are so enamored with Jeb today, which once again shows their duplicity. They absolutely abhorred W and there is not 2 cents worth of difference between W and Jeb on issues of substance.
If the GOP had selected Jeb for the nomination, you can imagine the ridicule, hue, and cry from the Dems about Bushie III. So, whatever they say, it is just an effort on their part to denigrate the GOP once again.
Rafe Hollister
June 11th, 2012
5:22 pm
Fred, I hate to burst your bubble, but W never had a Trillion dollar deficit, those all occurred under Barry Oblamer. Our credit was not downgraded under W.
Dave Francis
June 11th, 2012
5:22 pm
ONLY THE TEA PARTY WILL END ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION
Neither the Republicans, Liberal-Democrats are going to arrest illegal immigration occupation for good? Only the Tea Party that has assimilated every ethnic background, religion and tens of millions of ordinary people, frustrated with the fat cats in Washington. The majority of millionaire politicians live in isolation from the real world and no little, caused by illegal immigration nationwide.
SOME things that need to be critically observed by all Americans, specifically for those who want to see an end to the travesty called illegal immigration. First on the agenda is the fact that the miles of constructed border fence that Homeland Security says they have covered, is a downright lie and is misleading to the public. Just go to AMERICAN PATROL website and you can identify where the fence is, and where it doesn’t exist. Whether it’s Arizona, California, New Mexico or Texas the cost for not securing the border is staggering. TODAY it’s in every taxpayer best interest to get rid of the pro-illegal alien legislators, who come from both sides of Congress and throw them out. THAT includes the state assemblies that genuflect to the business, corporate and all special interest organizations. THEY are the ones subverting our hard earned money in subsidizing illegal aliens and their children. Both parties are untrustworthy and only the emerging growing membership of the TEA PARTY can stop this adversity to our liberties, freedoms and following the edicts of the U.S. Constitution.
H.R. 2885 – Already well sponsored is Mandatory E-Verify, which was initially sponsored by Senator Lamar Smith of Texas. The bill entitled ‘The Legal Workforce Bill’ (H.R.2885) has been blocked by House speaker, John Boehner of Ohio and Dave Camp of Michigan, who is Chairman of the powerful Ways and Means Committee. Americans must insist these lawmakers. E-Verify have gained a success rate nationwide, but are still only voluntary. We must insist both parties place (H.R.2885) to be presented on the house floor without delay. Millions of Americans that remain jobless would benefit highly from mandatory E-Verify. This computer based government application can detect illegal workers and reject them from every business—large and small—with heavy punishment for indifferent company owners. Farmers are just as incorrigible as they pay little or nothing towards the illegal aliens they employ, leaving the medical treatment, schooling and welfare benefits for the state taxpayer to cover.
H.R.140 – The Birthright Citizenship Act introduced by Rep. Steve King would end Birthright Citizenship, requiring that at least one parent of a child born in the United States be a U.S. citizen or legal permanent resident. The U.S. is one of only two developed nations (Canada) to still offer Birthright Citizenship. This is a hundred billion dollar expenditure for taxpayers Smuggled children that inherit instant citizenship through misguided laws, which have not been tested in the Supreme Court. Another unfunded mandate, that is part of uncompensated mandates such as education through high school graduation, free health treatments from the common cold to expensive surgeries paid by YOU. An overcrowded prison system full of criminal aliens that is to blame for high percentages of wicked acts in the U.S. Then a profusion of welfare programs manipulated by both parties, giving access to programs, denied to our citizens and legal residents.
These two laws on their own would save over $100.000.000.000 annually? No! I’m not talking about millions, but billions that are cleverly extracted through taxes. Similarly little is said about the $40.000.000.000 that leaves this country by wire transfer to foreign banks. Another astronomical payout would be if the Democrats, Liberals and the Republicans passed an amnesty. The cost according to the Heritage Foundation would be in the region of $2.4000.000.000.000, ($2.4 TRILLION DOLLARS TO PROCESS A PATH TO CITIZENSHIP FOR 11 MILLION PEOPLE) to complete the processing and the whole carnival once again on the backs of taxpayers. The pro-sovereignty organization gives more credence, that there is at least 20 million plus unauthorized aliens in the United States.
These new amendments will be useful to the state of Arizona and all 50 states, with many convulsing under the Department of justice lawsuits, and the relentless financial bombardment of illegal aliens settled around the country. No matter the outcome of the U.S. Supreme Court, these laws and amendments passed by Congress could begin a major mass departure of foreign nationals.
There is a short list of premier contenders for second place, but Marco Rubio is held in high esteem and would bring a polarized bloc of Hispanics to the voting booth? Nobody is positive on the outcome of where the largest majority of LEGAL Hispanics stand, but the highest priority should be EMPLOYMENT, economy and the ‘Rule of Law’, and then they should be drawn to the Constitutionality of the TEA PARTY leadership? Not excluded is the African American community, who have ostracized by business owners, especially the teens who in the last ten years have been hit hard, by the illegal immigrant domination of start-up jobs. Even the general Caucasian young American has been alienated by the same discount labor and under the table labor wages, so millions of school population remains unemployed?
In academia, visas should only be granted to professional people with an advanced degree, STEM workers (science, technology, engineering and mathematics) for the U.S. workforce in an expedited process. However the STEM workers must be of the highest order, not undermining the top experienced priority of intellects citizens here? Farming and agricultural workers and other Guest labor must be well regulated, that benefits must be paid by business owner, not the taxpayer as it is the case now. Simply put, the company should pay for the health care, education for their children and other public assistance, not just their wages? OTHER THAN THESE ABOVE CATEGORIES, WE SHOULD NOT BE A MAGNET FOR THE POVERTY OF OTHER NATIONS.
Years of planned encouragement by both political parties, has erupted in a major response from anti-illegal alien organizations, including NumbersUSA, Americans for Legal Immigration (ALIPAC), The Heritage foundation, The Federation for Immigration Reform(FAIR), Judicial Watch and thousands of more groups, blogs available to all readers across the Internet. Let your Senator or Congressman/Women know that they are not eligible for your vote, if they are discovered pampering the millions of invaders who have settled here illegally–phone DC. , Switchboard at 202-224-3121 Demand also that your state adopts a voter ID law, so no non-citizens, illegal aliens or felons or even the deceased can manipulate the pending elections, including the Presidential vote.
Ayn Rant
June 11th, 2012
5:23 pm
The Congress has not passed a budget; therefore congressmen (representatives and senators) have not passed a budget. The Ryan budget voted for by the Republican members of the House of Representatives is a strawman that no Republican or Democrat would dare support if it had a chance of becoming law.
The Republicans in the House vote for symbolic measures that they know cannot become law.
People will not stand for more tax cuts for the ultrarich, more development of useless cold war weapon, and cuts to the medical and retirement benefits that make us an almost civilized nation.
Lil' Barry Bailout (Unexpectedly Revised Downward--Again)
June 11th, 2012
5:24 pm
Ronnie would be called a RINO
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You obviously don’t know much about Our President Reagan.
“Tear down this wall”? “Evil empire”? Star Wars? 600-ship navy? “Government IS the problem”?
Get a grip.
bu2
June 11th, 2012
5:25 pm
The Democrats had a huge majority in the House and 58 or 59 votes in the Senate and failed to pass a budget for the 1st time in the history of the republic. The Democrats can’t even compromise with themselves. They had trouble passing a budget the year they had 60 votes in the Senate.
There’s a no compromise element of the Republicans, but they manage to reach agreement among themselves at least. Both parties have shifted out of the center, but only one party repeatedly chooses Harry Reid and Nancy Pelosi as their “leaders.”
Hillbilly D
June 11th, 2012
5:29 pm
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In the eyes of many Republicans, if you stray from the approved line, you’re a RINO. Same thing goes with the Democrats. I have mentioned in the past on here about how my family always voted as Democrats going back about 150 years and I was raised in the same way. But the Democrats don’t want a “conservative Democrat” anymore than the Republicans want a “liberal Republican”. Every time I’ve mention “old line conservative Democrats” on here, it usually isn’t 5 minutes until I get a rebuttal explaining to me that they weren’t Democrats, they were Dixiecrats, even though the Dixiecrat party only last about a year and involved one election cycle in 1948. So you can only be a Republican if you’re “the right kind of Republican” and you can only be a Democrat, if you’re “the right kind of Democrat. Otherwise, they don’t want you playing their little reindeer games. You see it on here and virtually anywhere you care to look, any old day.
That’s one reason why I’m a member of neither party. The both disgust me. I think people should’ve listened to George Washington when he gave his Farewell Address. He knew exactly what was going to happen.
TRUTH
June 11th, 2012
5:33 pm
Funny, Kyle… Jeb is only saying what the rest of the country is saying. The GOP is NOT the GOP of Regan, heck, its not even the party of Dubya. Further, the Tea Party movement WAS NOT grassroots. They are pawns of big business (a lot of people got misled…), now the country is left with a GOP that is straight owned by big business, Grover, Dick Armey, and the rest of them. Jeb said what was on his heart and you, in typical ReTHUGlican fashion run to a revisionist position basically claiming what he meant to say was, or he didn’t mean that… HOGWASH. Jeb was a sitting governor, you are a newspaper opinionist, so how, exactly, do you know what he meant? Yes, I am a liberal Democrat, yes I am voting for President Obama (not Obozo or any of the other derogatory names you self righteous neo-cons come up with). Romney is getting support, not from his platform, but from those Americans who still don’t want a man of color leading this country, because he is a Democrat, and because HE HAS BEEN SUCCESFUL.
C’mon, Kyle….even you can do better than that….
Sam
June 11th, 2012
5:34 pm
thank you Ayn..that House budget wasnt worth the paper it was written on. it was a joke on the american people.
The Fresh Prince of Bill Ayers
June 11th, 2012
5:35 pm
The Dems don’t want a budget because
a: they don’t want their spending increases scrutinized by fox news pundits, or
b: they have the collective intelligence of one of getalife’s turds
ReaganRIP
June 11th, 2012
5:36 pm
Reagan is dead and buried. Has been for a while. Was half asleep when he was president. Is this the best the rightists can do for a role model? Pathetic.
The Fresh Prince of Bill Ayers
June 11th, 2012
5:39 pm
At least Reagan wasn’t a teleprompter puppet and knew that there wasn’t 57 states. Hell I will even go as far to say that Reagan released his transcripts…
Lil' Barry Bailout (Unexpectedly Revised Downward--Again)
June 11th, 2012
5:41 pm
[OBOZO] HAS BEEN SUCCESFUL
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Six trillion in new debt…higher unemployment today than when he took office…record numbers on food stamps…Gitmo still open…Lost us our AAA credit rating…Wasted a year on an unconstitutional health care power grab…No reform of entitlement programs…Increased the cost of Medicare Part D…
Success.
weetamoe
June 11th, 2012
5:41 pm
The Reagan of 1964 would be right at home in today’s republican party. The TEA party cares nothing about the *birther* thingy which in fact began as a rumor circulated by the Hilary Clinton campaign. The TEA party does not oppose taxes, just argues that we are Taxed Enough Already and should live within our means. The cost or the wars was a reasonable percentage of the GDP and the US went into Iraq under a UN mandate. Under Obama the GDP has shrunk to less than 2%. The TEA party worked quietly within the system to elect conservatives at all levels of government. Occupiers thought that micturating and defecating on private property was the solution to inequality. The Occupiers and union thugs made death threats against Scott Walker after the election Union boss Richard Trumka volunteered to *take out* the TEA party if Obama wished him to do so…and so it goes..
Now with Ten Percent Fewer Calories
June 11th, 2012
5:42 pm
Thanks for the historical perspective, Hillbilly. I was interested in your perspective regarding the current crop of politicians in Washington and what examples you might cite that would lead you to believe, for example, that the Democrats are uncompromising while the Republicans are compromising (noting here that I do not know what you actually believe and am just throwing out an example for the sake of discussion). I saw just the opposite with respect to the health care legislation and the deficit/debt reduction negotiations. As for the spats that they like to put on for the camera that do not amount to anything of benefit to we the people, who cares. That stuff is just cheap entertainment designed to fill in blank space on line as well as on air.
Sam
June 11th, 2012
5:43 pm
lil barry, what the hell do those quotes have to do with the fact that reagan would be called a rino today? (raised taxes, immigration, huge deficits/debt)..where do those fit in?
JDW
June 11th, 2012
5:46 pm
@Kyle…sounds to me like he knew what he meant and then tried to back off. Fact is, as you, I and anyone else with half a brain knows Reagan and Bush 1 wouldn’t stand a snowball’s chance in a real hot place of winning a Republican Primary today.
getalife
June 11th, 2012
5:50 pm
The actor raised taxes and would be voted out by the tea party.
WAW
June 11th, 2012
5:52 pm
What Jeb said that got my attention – He didn’t sign the Pledge! That makes your argument nothing but spin Kyle. Because you can’t be a Republican today if you don’t sell your soul to the devil.
Rafe Hollister
June 11th, 2012
6:11 pm
Ten Percent
Example of Dem not wishing to compromise. Boehner and Oblamer had a deal on the debt ceiling increase, budget cuts and tax increases. I understand it was push back Oblamer received, that scuttled the deal.
For all of you wise acres that say Reagan would not fit into todays GOP, you are wrong, but yes the GOP is more conservative than it was in the Nixon/Ford years. The Dems are much more left than they were in the Truman or Kennedy years. So, tit for tat, JFK could not get the nomination today in the Dem party and Truman would probably be a Republican.
Hillbilly D
June 11th, 2012
6:22 pm
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I believe that with the current crop in Washington, it just depends on how they view their position, strategically. If the Democrats think they need Republican votes to pass something, they’ll compromise. By the same token, if the Republicans think the Democrats can’t pass it on their own, then they smell blood in the water and they won’t compromise. I think that pretty much sums up the deficit/debt reduction thing.
On health care, I personally think the President just blew that one right from the start. He turned it over to the Congress and sort of washed his hands of it, at least figuratively. He didn’t get out and sell it to the people and the Republicans capitalized on that and ran with it. I don’t like his health care plan, as I think the drug companies and insurance industry will be the real beneficiaries. I also think it’s unconstitutional, at the Federal level, to force people to buy a product from a private company. We’ll see if I’m right about that shortly.
If he believed in his program though, he should have spearheaded it and got out and convinced the voters that it was the thing to do. If he was successful in that, the voters could’ve pressured the Congress.
Personally, I’m for a single payer system. Granted, it would’ve been very difficult to pass but by taking that off the table right at the beginning, it insured it won’t happen any time soon. If his plan is struck down by the court, then they’re back at square one, with virtually no bargaining leverage. So from a strategic standpoint, I think the President brought that one on himself.
I have no doubt if the roles were reversed on an issue, the Republicans would compromise, if they felt they had no choice and the Democrats wouldn’t, if they smelled the blood in the water. I think that’s what’s important to both sides, is just to beat the other side.
Back when the great financial meltdown came, I was watching PBS on night and they had Barney Frank and a Republican (I forget who it was), explaining their positions on what had happened and what needed to be done. It was PBS, so it was a civil discussion without the usual screaming and shouting, even though their positions were about 180 degrees apart. Lasted 3-4 minutes but the really interesting thing came at the end. After they’d finished, and they were cutting away, the camera lingered a moment too long. Apparently thinking they were off camera, Frank slapped the other guy on the leg and said, “Good job”. They’re all career politicians, or turn into career politicians, and it’s largely a game to them, to my way of thinking.
Hillbilly D
June 11th, 2012
6:22 pm
Dang that was longer than I realized. Didn’t mean to re-write War and Peace.
Now with Ten Percent Fewer Calories
June 11th, 2012
6:25 pm
Rafe,
I understand that a debt/deficit deal was enacted into law (the ultimate agreement) and now the Republicans do not want to hold up their end of the bargain. Also, do you happen to have any details regarding the GOP budget proposal and its impact on the debt. I can’t seem to find anything indicating how much the debt will be impacted by the GOP’s proposal.
Now with Ten Percent Fewer Calories
June 11th, 2012
6:27 pm
Hillbilly D,
Thanks for the comments. I cannot find much to disagree with you about in there. I too would love to see a single payer system.
Tiberius - Banned by Bookman and proud of it!
June 11th, 2012
6:56 pm
Short answer to the question of your column:
No.
But it won’t stop the libs from desperately trying to make an issue out of it. Anything to distract from the miserable record of this president and his lack of leadership .
Just saying..
June 11th, 2012
6:57 pm
I Report (-: You Whine )-: mmm, mmmm, mmmmm! Just sayin…
June 11th, 2012
4:09 pm: “What’s kookman doing monitoring Wingnut’s blog?
Odd, isn’t it?”
If there were derelicts in your neighborhood, wouldn’t you keep an eye…?
I Report (-: You Whine )-: mmm, mmmm, mmmmm! Just sayin...
June 11th, 2012
6:58 pm
Compromising with dummycrats only exposes you to their fiendishness and opens you to their trickery.
For instance, they will try to get you to look into their eyes where you will see the pit of hell filled with pestilence and depravity and you will be struck dumb by the sheer horror of it all. Then they will take advantage of you.
I don’t recommend it. It’s better just to ignore them.
I Report (-: You Whine )-: mmm, mmmm, mmmmm! Just sayin...
June 11th, 2012
6:59 pm
See, now I’m ignoring 6:57.
Logical Dude
June 11th, 2012
7:01 pm
Sooooooo. .. . nothing on the Republican’s “pledge” to Grover to not raise taxes, and they keep running into that corner when they know it helps destroy the country?
Really?
And sitting in the corner whining about the taxes?
Really?
Democrats dismissed that rightly because of the huge middle-class burden created to support the payoffs to the rich. Democrats also rightly dismissed Obama’s budgets. Republicans have done EVERYTHING they can to keep ANYTHING from happening. . . and you ask why a budget hasn’t been passed. Sheesh, if the Republican could do it, they’d filibuster anyone from going to the bathroom.
I Report (-: You Whine )-: mmm, mmmm, mmmmm! Just sayin...
June 11th, 2012
7:04 pm
kookman’s blog is a haven for the illiterate. They exchange trivial banalities amongst themselves with the occasional sobbing or whining. Facebook could bring a copyright infringement suit upon him at anytime.
Not to mention they’re booooorrrrrrriiiiinnngggg, zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz.
Lil' Barry Bailout (Unexpectedly Revised Downward--Again)
June 11th, 2012
7:05 pm
Maybe someone can explain how folks who pay nothing or almost nothing in income taxes can be burdened in any way.
As you well know, the rich pay the bills in this country.
Rafe Hollister
June 11th, 2012
7:13 pm
Ten Percent
You were asking about GOP budget proposals as related to the deficit. All I know is that CBO says it will take 28 years on the Ryan budget to eliminate the deficit. Dems will not vote for it, as it is “TOO EXTREME”.
For me, it is too ineffective. We need the deficit to disappear soon, rather than 28 years from now.
To Tell the Truth
June 11th, 2012
8:05 pm
Funny how the recent Auburn University shootings media and NAACP have not called out a bounty for the killer. Where are you Jessie and Al?
What a bunch of RACIST people those two are!!!!
iggy
June 11th, 2012
8:24 pm
Not to worry, libs, Romney/Help is on the way!!
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June 11th, 2012
8:32 pm
and I don’t see the left wanting to hear what’s being said.
Michael H. Smith
June 11th, 2012
9:04 pm
Doing nothing is not always a bad thing Kyle.
Would doing nothing on healthcare had been better than passing obumerCare?
Would doing nothing had been better than passing Dodd-Frank?
Would doing nothing had been better than buying the UAW a bankrupt car company – by the name of GM – on the taxpayer’s national credit card?
The Hippocratic Oath involves doing nothing rather than doing harm: I will prescribe regimens for the good of my patients according to my ability and my judgment and never do harm to anyone.
Real Athens
June 11th, 2012
9:54 pm
Kyle:
Your “out of context” rewriting of Jeb’s statements (you can watch them on youtube or anywhere else and add vocal inflection, body language, etc.) to come to a differing conclusion makes me want to puke. You know damn well what he meant.
Is the AJC paycheck REALLY that important? You’ll sell your integrity as a journalist for … what? Geezus. I hope you’re getting paid by someone else.
Seriously, what would Fink think? You’ve struck a new low. Do you care about, recognize or believe in the Fourth Estate?
Pitiful.
You’re not qualified to shine Ralph McGill’s shoes.
The Kid
June 11th, 2012
9:59 pm
Having a Brother as Pres., has completely unhinged you white people. Get over it. There’s an antidote. Vote him out. He’ll ride richly off into the sunset, so you can again worship the likes of ; lying, draftdodging, war-criminal Cheney.
Real Athens
June 11th, 2012
10:03 pm
Hillbilly:
IMO you’re right regarding the individual mandate — a GOP spurned idea as an alternative idea to Hillarycare. They were for it, now against.
You want to fix out of control healthcare costs in America? Please read:
http://www.consumerreports.org/cro/magazine-archive/august-2009/viewpoint/overview/our-prescription-for-health-care-ov.htm
The Kid
June 11th, 2012
10:20 pm
Hopefully Romney will somehow get a spine on his trip down the Yellow Brick Road.. He reminds one of a limp noodle, but…, he’s a rich All-American looking white boy so Zowie!!!
bill
June 11th, 2012
10:23 pm
I do enjoy reading the blog comments. Also, enjoy reading Kyle’s replies-everyone else is always wrong and Kyle knows the truth. Day in and day out. Year in and year out. Kinda like Alabama football fans.
bluecoat
June 11th, 2012
10:35 pm
Jethro makes more sense than his dad or brothers.This is the clampet family right.Our worth 40 o/o less and back to 92 level.
Gas was $1.81 gal when Bush left office
June 11th, 2012
10:44 pm
Ayn Rant – You wealth envy is SO OBVIOUS…..why don’t you do something about it?
Old Timer
June 11th, 2012
10:50 pm
After years of studying both major parties I have come to the conclusion that during Presidentail Election Time both candidates become disfunctional. Money becomes the route of all evil. Since I have only one vote I am forced to vote for the person who tell the least amount of fibs. Afterall they are POLITICANS not Statesmen. God Bless America.
Tiberius - Banned from Bookman's and proud of it!
June 11th, 2012
10:52 pm
There’s nothing real about your thinking processes, Real Athens.
As has been explained earlier, just because an individual Republican brings up an idea, that doesn’t make it a “Republican” idea. It makes it an idea from a Republican. Fail on your part again on the individual mandate.
As to excoriating Kyle for his column, he is spot on. No other conclusion fits, as he is using ALL of Bush’s own words, unless your goal is to create even more distraction from the record of the worst President to occupy the Oval Office in the history of this nation, and that’s the current officeholder.
Hillbilly D
June 11th, 2012
11:11 pm
Speaking of health care, I posted this yesterday but I don’t think anybody read it. This man was a real doctor. (If you read it, read the comments at the bottom, too).
http://www.gainesvilletimes.com/section/199/article/68603/
Oblama
June 11th, 2012
11:18 pm
Compromise to the Dems means you do it our way or else we will whine, cry, play the sex card, the race card the age card, the victim card, etc. etc etc.