From Flanders fields, warnings about Europe’s crisis
If ye break faith with us who die
We shall not sleep, though poppies grow
In Flanders fields.
These closing lines of John McCrae’s poem have haunted many a student of literature. History, too: Voices from the graves in Flanders fields, where “poppies blow/Between the crosses, row by row,” seem to admonish us about the human cost of war McCrae saw 97 years ago, in the tragically misnamed “war to end all wars.”
They are more haunting still for a visitor to the cemeteries in Flanders fields, in the Ardennes, at Normandy. And these are just the American memorials, just a few of them.
“Never again” is the feeling that overcomes a visitor to these gravesites. It is also the mantra that for 55 years has led the peoples of Belgium, France, Germany and beyond to band together and extricate themselves from millennia of war. World War I did not “end all wars” in Western Europe, but economic cooperation, beginning with the free trade of coal and steel in 1957, has. So far.
As another Memorial Day approaches, though, it is with haunting memories that a visitor to those gravesites might look back across the pond, and see creeping reasons for worry.
The first glance is to Greece, whose fiscal profligacy has brought it again to the brink of default and, perhaps, an exit from the euro currency. Bailouts from more sound nations, chiefly Germany, are all that have kept these developments at bay the past 27 months.
Now, there’s anger. The Greeks feel betrayed by their government for agreeing to the bailouts, and resentful of the austerity the Germans demanded in exchange. This month they voted in large numbers against the two centrist parties, and for a collection of radicals, Communists and neo-Nazis who speak with a nationalist tone — anathema to the European Union.
The Germans also feel betrayed: It’s well-documented that Athens lied about its finances when applying to join the euro. And they are resentful of being handed the check after spending a decade getting their own finances in order.
Just as there is the threat of financial contagion spreading from Greece to more consequential economies — Italy, Spain, even France — there is the risk these nations will also point the finger at Berlin. Voters in these countries have already lashed out at their political establishments and are not unfamiliar with nationalism.
History suggests the prospect of an isolated, indignant Germany is not to be relished.
There may also be some inauspicious timing on America’s part. Seventy years of guarding against remilitarization in Europe may wind down as Washington grapples with the realities of its own profligacy and, perhaps, looks to withdraw finally from the theater. A subsequent rearmament in Europe, even if in the name of defense, would seem only natural.
For now, there is reason to believe the worst scenarios can still be avoided. It is a long march from a Greek exit from the euro to a divided, rearmed Europe. And for all the dark clouds on the horizon, many here and there still hear those voices in Flanders fields.
But do not forget that the admonition preceding the warning not to “break faith with us who die” reflects a different sentiment, one that exists yet in human nature:
Take up our quarrel with the foe:
To you with failing hands we throw
The torch; be yours to hold it high.
Even in Flanders fields.
– By Kyle Wingfield
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david green
May 26th, 2012
4:07 pm
Lil Barry Bailout wrote: Whether it’s communism or fascism, the common thread is more and more government control over people.
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The opposition supported by conservatives to abortion, gay rights – gay marriage and the war on drugs all require direct intervention by the government which imposes itself between a woman and her doctor – the right of association in an individual own home and seeks to tell that same individual what he can and can not put into their own body.
But that is precisely what I’d expect from today’s American conservative socialist party known as the GOP.
Dusty
May 26th, 2012
4:07 pm
david green 3:55
I classify your post as union propaganda and the usual blame on the USA for anything bad that happens. Whoever is feeding you this material should be less obvious. In the meantime, it’s dash this item to trash classification. .
david green
May 26th, 2012
4:13 pm
DawgDad wrote: I know when I got married I was required to have a license from the State, and a blood test.
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Which is in itself a government intervention in the natural rights of the individual granted by nature.
Dusty
May 26th, 2012
4:16 pm
david green @4:07
More party trash. “Socialist party known as the GOP”!! HO hum….That’s about as true as saying “Mickey Mouse known as the president!”
Come on, david. This is a nice holiday weekend. Try to write something honest for a change.
And….the BRAVES should be playing about NOW!! Go BRAVES!!
david green
May 26th, 2012
4:23 pm
Dusty Jesus once said: If the blind lead the blind both will fall into he ditch.
The GOP lead the nation into the stock market crash of 1929 and under Hoover’s leadership created the great depression that required massive government programs during ww II to resolve and again in 2008 under the leadership of George Bush II.
In other words the willfully blind GOP leadership continues to lead their willfully blind supporters such as yourself into the very same ditch without leaning anything in the process.
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May 26th, 2012
4:25 pm
As reflected on the editorial pages of The New York Times, in the New Republic, and in Slate and other forums, contemporary liberals tend to believe in an almost unrestricted right to abortion and actively encourage stem cell research and sometimes even euthanasia. Yet they think the state should never execute someone, not even a vicious serial killer. As reflected in National Review, the Weekly Standard and other forums, contemporary conservatives tend to hold the opposite views.
Liberals tend to believe that marijuana consumption should be legal, even for recreational use. Yet they are quite content to have the government deny terminal cancer patients access to experimental drugs. Conservatives tend to hold the opposite opinion.
In elections, most liberals support restricting the role of financial capital (money); but they want no restrictions on real capital (printing presses, radio and TV broadcast facilities) or organizational capital (labor union get-out-the-vote resources). Most conservatives are at least consistent in opposing almost any restriction other than mandatory disclosure.
By and large, conservatives believe in punishment, liberals in rehabilitation. Conservatives believe in tough love; liberals are more likely to coddle. Conservatives tend to favor school choice; liberals tend to oppose it. Many anti-war liberals support the military draft; many pro-war conservatives oppose conscription.
An interesting read, indeed.
david green
May 26th, 2012
4:25 pm
Dusty I have yet to meet a conservative who wasn’t an outright lair or a repeater of a lie.
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May 26th, 2012
4:45 pm
We really should get rid of the FDA.
The Senate voted Thursday to expand the number of drug companies that must pay the Food and Drug Administration to review new products and gave the agency new powers to regulate drug supplies.
The renewal of an existing law would require drug and medical device companies to pay about $6 billion over five years to help cover the agency’s cost of reviewing their products.
The 96-1 Senate vote marked a rare bipartisan agreement, with only Sen. Bernie Sanders (I., Vt.) voting against the renewal. Mr. Sanders said the bill does too little to lower the cost of drugs for ordinary Americans.
Waddyaknow! I’m in agreement with Bernie the Socialist.
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May 26th, 2012
4:47 pm
And John McCain, the moderate Conservative.
Senators defeated, 54-43, an attempt by Sen. John McCain (R., Ariz.) to allow Americans to buy prescription drugs from Canada, where they often are less expensive than in the U.S. That prompted him to accuse the Pharmaceutical Research and Manufacturers of America of using its influence to damage the interests of Americans. The industry group declined to comment.
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May 26th, 2012
5:01 pm
The likes of Biden never explain what they’d have preferred to happen to the troubled businesses that attracted the attention of Bain. Simply go out of business without any attempt at a turnaround?
Well, that would require thought and we wouldn’t want to stress our little liberal friends.
@@
May 26th, 2012
5:05 pm
Letters asked judge for leniency in Rutgers webcam case
NEW BRUNSWICK, N.J. (AP) – The letters came from a man who was once beaten with a baseball bat in a racially motivated attack, the widow of a Minnesota judge, a group representing lesbian, gay and transgendered people from South Asia, a gay member of the Navy, and the father of a woman who committed suicide, among others.
There were more than 100 in all, and nearly all had the same theme: telling the judge it would be unjust to put former Rutgers student Dharun Ravi in prison for using a webcam to see roommate Tyler Clementi kissing another man in 2010, just days before Clementi killed himself.
“I learned a lot about bias crimes and bullying through this case,” said a writer named Louise. “The bullying and bias acts occurred when the legal system and media got involved. Ravi is not to blame for the hardships endured by the gay community nor should he be tied to the whipping post because of it. If Tyler was not gay, this would have been just a prank gone wrong and no one would have rushed to incarcerate.”
The media gets its comeuppance. Trying people in the court of public opinion encourages a rush to judgment.
Kewl!
Lil' Barry Bailout (Revised Downward)
May 26th, 2012
5:09 pm
“Some of you may remember that the president promised to exchange ten dollars in spending cuts for a dollar of new revenue. At the time , Boehner seemed receptive to the idea, but the Tea Party faithful shot the idea down. Anyone remember the debt crisis? Rember our credit rating being down graded?”
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Wrong. Obozo got greedy and moved the goalposts after agreeing to a deal with Speaker Boehner. Seems Obozo’s libtard friends in Congress didn’t like the deal and Obozo caved.
The S&P stated that the credit rating downgrade was due to the government not being serious about cutting spending, which is higher than at any point since WWII.
It’s the spending, stupid.
Lil' Barry Bailout (Revised Downward)
May 26th, 2012
5:11 pm
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49.1%: Percent of the population that lives in a household where at least one member received some type of government benefit in the first quarter of 2011.
Cutting government spending is no easy task, and it’s made more complicated by recent Census Bureau data showing that nearly half of the people in the U.S. live in a household that receives at least one government benefit, and many likely received more than one.
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Welcome to Obozo’s Parasite Nation.
Welcome to the decline.
MM
May 26th, 2012
5:22 pm
@ You Whine 5:01
I agree that some way to remake failing businesses is needed. The fair solution for workers is not to tuen it over to a profit-maximizing bunch of bloodsuckers however. There should be (probably already are) firms that come in, do a stem-to-stern internal and external analysis, provide interim management services, and then leave making a reasonable profit. In a public company the stockholders and workers should this rather than go under. In a privately held company the workers should demand it. The option to decapitate the firm Bain-style should not be on the table unless under the control of a bankruptcy court in which case the above profit-limited management firm should help do the dirty deed. Above all, the private equity Bain-bloodsucker management should never be allowed in.
Why isn’t this type of intervention the most prominently discussed in the corporate-owned media? The anser tells you who’s really in charge here.
The debate needs to center on whether Bain-type players should be allowed in the firm repair game. It’s not that some marginal/failing firms don’t need help but whether they should be preyed on by vulture capitalists with the goal of lining their own pockets paramount. The workers are not a commodity to be moved around on the chessboard like pawns. The American economy is the most extreme example of putting workers at the mercy of capital. That’s a dangerous game that ultimately must reply on suppression of human rights by any means necessary. I still hope that’s not the kind of country we are though I see much proof to the contrary.
Lil' Barry Bailout (Revised Downward)
May 26th, 2012
5:39 pm
MM:
Why isn’t this type of intervention the most prominently discussed in the corporate-owned media?
The debate needs to center on whether Bain-type players should be allowed in the firm repair game.
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That type of intervention doesn’t happen because the purpose of businesses is to maximize profit for the owners. Maximizing profit also means maximizing benefit for the public, because firms that make high profits are doing so by providing something that people want to purchase, and the business provides these things at the lowest cost possible.
And I would hate to live in a country where the government gets to decide which “players should be allowed” to participate in the marketplace. That’s pretty much the definition of fascism.
America won’t survive long if folks who think like you vote in any significant numbers.
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May 26th, 2012
5:44 pm
Hey, this is a first! We actually got the liberals caring about the health of a capitalist venture instead of wanting to break all of it’s windows and smear their feces on it’s doors. Whoa.
Can tax cuts be far behind?
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May 26th, 2012
5:45 pm
I shouldn’t be so harsh, the libs do care deeply about their drug dealers.
Andy
May 26th, 2012
6:01 pm
Kyle, I wish you wouldn’t mix that economic mess over there with Memorial Day. I have listened to one too many misguided choir directors (who never served) water down its meaning, and believe me, it deserves a humbled and bowed knee on the part of every American to those who have served and bear the weight.
Let me quote from “Company Aytch”, a compilation of the narratives of participant, (Shiloh, Corinth, Perryville, Murfreesboro, Shelbyville, Chattanooga, Chickamauga, Missionary Ridge, 100 Days Battles, Atlanta, Jonesboro, Franklin and Nashville) Sam Watkins, in the War Between the States:
“Out of the original 3,150 men who formed the Army of Tennessee, and the 1950 recruits and conscripts who joined them, ONLY 125 officers and men remained when the war was concluded in 1865. Out of the 120 men who enlisted with Watkins in Company H in 1861, he was one of ONLY 7 survivors.”
These men (and later women) and those in Flanders Field and those buried and still coming home are THE object of Memorial Day. Nothing else.
You will never understand the sacrifice until you’ve served. One of the fears of a soldier is that he will not be remembered. Got it? That’s the purpose of Memorial Day.
Pick up a free poppy (please give a donation) from any of the VFW members standing outside stores this weekend.
Andy
MM
May 26th, 2012
6:02 pm
My point is that financial regulation is necessary to protect workers (and stockholders) from the excesses of the free market gone wild. In a democracy this should be a political choice not dictated by ruinous dog-eat-dog law of the jungle masquerading as political theory. Truth is we don’t live in a democracy but a plutocracy run by the tenth of percenters.
Lil' Barry Bailout (Revised Downward)
May 26th, 2012
6:11 pm
Why aren’t there any private equity firms operating as charities?
Because that would be effing stupid.
MarkV
May 26th, 2012
6:38 pm
david green’s post @3:55 pm and Dusty’s @ 4:07 pm are, in my view, two of the more interesting’s and on-subject posts so far. Dusty’s response was completely predictable. Any suggestion that our country might have had some imperfect past apparently is an anathema to her fervent beliefs, and must be rejected as propaganda.
It would be hard to find something obviously false in david green’s summary of the history. On the other hand, personally I view history as much more complex. Decisions made, such as “the harsh reparations demanded by President Woodrow Wilson” and their consequences sound different when stated this way then when one considers all the reasons, circumstances and alternatives as well as the general inability of politicians to see the future. Similarly, while I see some truth in the harsh david’s denunciation of the GOP, I think it is unwise to draw too stark parallels between the past and the present. Still it is a much more justifiable view than the insane babbling of some other people about the Marxism of Hitler and Mussolini.
Tiberius - Banned from Bookman's and proud of it!
May 26th, 2012
7:39 pm
“It would be hard to find something obviously false in david green’s summary of the history. ”
Thinking while living in reality is always hard, MaryV.
But in reality, it is rather hard to find much actually true in david green’s summary of history.
Rafe Hollister- trying to save the Choom Gang
May 26th, 2012
7:51 pm
On the other hand, personally I view history as much more complex.
Not surprising Mark; to you, a potato is complex.
david green
May 26th, 2012
7:58 pm
MarkV
The average conservative such as Dusty reminds of the rich man burning hell in the parable of the rich man and Iazarus. In which the rich man was plainly told that if his brothers refused to believe Moses and the Prophets; neither would they believe someone who had been raised from the dead and sent to warn them. Even more tragic is that most of today’s conservative Christians will find themselves consigned to the lake of fire at the end of time not because they were deceived by a lie but because they failed to believe the truth when it was revealed to them.
The simple fact is that the Christian religion and modern day conservatism are incompatible with and opposed to each other. An individual can be one or the other but not both for as Christ made it perfectly clear no one can serve two masters.
david green
May 26th, 2012
8:06 pm
Tiberius wrote: But in reality, it is rather hard to find much actually true in david green’s summary of history.
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The above comment by Tiberius aptly demonstrates the willful ignorance of history that is all too common in conservative circles today; which is the reason that Republicans can get away with making the same economic mistakes over and over again without being taken to task by their supporters for their failures.
Lil' Barry Bailout (Revised Downward)
May 26th, 2012
8:15 pm
Yeah, david green, Christianity is clearly more compatible with murdering unborn children, homosexuals pretending to be married, folks preferring to live off the labor of others rather than working, and forcing priests to purchase condoms for rich liberal women attending posh private law schools.
Tiberius - Banned from Bookman's and proud of it!
May 26th, 2012
8:15 pm
david green, your so-called “history” is nothing but your opinion; misguided and uninformed, but opinion nevertheless.
Your desire and willingness to assign blame to one political party alone shows the intellectual mind of a 4-year old.
david green
May 26th, 2012
9:50 pm
Lil Barry Bailout
Christians have the right to speak out and call abortion and same sex marriage sinful as long as they can back up those viewpoints from the Word of God – the Bible. However, When Christians seek to petition the government and/or pervert/subvert the political process in order to use the power of the state to impose their religious beliefs and doctrine upon the nation at large. As conservatives who falsely claim to be Christians actively seek to do then they have stepped over the line and become a movement promoting religious Totalitarianism.
In other words just as the proof is in the pudding and Christ declared: “By their fruits [actions] ye shall know them.” Today’s two faced Christian conservatives claim to be against government interference in the lives of individuals yet actively seek to use the power of the state impose their religion upon the nation at large through the political process.
By any definition that is saying one thing while doing the direct opposite of what they preach.
MarkV
May 26th, 2012
9:59 pm
david green @8:06 pm
What Tiberius’s comment aptly demonstrates is not just the willful ignorance of history, but also his pathetic inability to make an argument other than “you are wrong.”
david green
May 26th, 2012
10:03 pm
MarkV
LOL I couldn’t help but notice that too.
Lil' Barry Bailout (Revised Downward)
May 26th, 2012
11:29 pm
Any Christians force you to buy health insurance lately?
Lil' Barry Bailout (Revised Downward)
May 26th, 2012
11:32 pm
Any Christians demanding in their god’s name that you “pay your fair share”?
bluecoat
May 26th, 2012
11:39 pm
David just ignore same as others.May be it will go away.
ld
May 27th, 2012
12:58 am
Some things ARE worth fighting and, if need be, dying for; however, the wars subsequent to WWII have NOT been for those objectives — like freedom and self defense against an agressor.
The efforts worthy of the tragedy of war — efforts to defend our nation and the individual liberty of our citizens from agressor nations — would meet the challenge of convincing members of Congress to have the stones to DECLARE war and to back the effort to DESTROY the enemy and force their defeat and/or surrender.
Recent wars have been about global bu$ine$$ interests and their profit, about political pandering and maneuvering in pursuit of power, about fear-mongering and war-mongering to justify stripping away the individual liberties that make this nation worth fighting for, and it’s been about polititions strengthing the military industrial complex via pork barrell politics with the objective of securing their own personal interests.
Even the protracted tragedies of Korea and Vietnam were not declared wars. They were in no small part religious/political wars against the “godless commies”. The more recent mid-east wars have been about oil and the profitteering while in pursuit of revenge and the grabbing of political power.
Sadly, while the men and women of our military, guard and reserve are valiently still fighting for freedom they are dying for the “nation building” benefit of a greedy, self-serving few and their bought-and-paid-for polititions.
david green
May 27th, 2012
3:16 am
Lil Barry Bailout wrote: Any Christians demanding in their god’s name that you “pay your fair share”?
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Here’s what the Father Above said through the Apostle Paul in regards to taxes in Romans 13: 1-7:
“Let every soul be subject unto the higher powers. For there is no power but of God: the powers that be are ordaineda of God. Whosoever therefore resisteth the power, resisteth the ordinance of God: and they that resist shall receive to themselves damnation. For rulers are not a terror to good works, but to the evil. Wilt thou then not be afraid of the power? do that which is good, and thou shalt have praise of the same: For he is the minister of God to thee for good. But if thou do that which is evil, be afraid; for he beareth not the sword in vain: for he is the minister of God, a revenger to execute wrath upon him that doeth evil. Wherefore ye must needs be subject, not only for wrath, but also for conscience sake. For for this cause pay ye tribute also: for they are God’s ministers, attending continually upon this very thing. Render therefore to all their dues: tribute to whom tribute is due; custom to whom custom; fear to whom fear; honour to whom honour.”
The Holy Bible : King James Version. electronic ed. of the 1769 edition of the 1611 Authorized Version. Bellingham WA : Logos Research Systems, Inc., 1995, S. Ro 13:1-7
According to the Strongs Enhanced Lexicon the word tribute means: 5411 φόρος [phoros /for·os/] n m. From 5342; TDNT 9:78; TDNTA 1252; GK 5843; Five occurrences; AV translates as “tribute” five times. 1 tribute, esp. the annual tax levied upon houses, lands, and persons.
Strong, James: The Exhaustive Concordance of the Bible : Showing Every Word of the Text of the Common English Version of the Canonical Books, and Every Occurrence of Each Word in Regular Order. electronic ed. Ontario : Woodside Bible Fellowship., 1996, S. G5411
david green
May 27th, 2012
3:27 am
Lil Barry Bailout wrote: Any Christians force you to buy health insurance lately?
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The mandate to buy health insurance was first proposed by none other than Newt Gingrich the serial adulterer whom Kyle endorsed not so long ago for president. And in was W who signed into law a bill while Governor of Texas that legalized and created the Death Panels {feared by Conservatives} that allows Texas hospitals to deny terminal patients medical care.
Tiberius - Banned from Bookman's and proud of it!
May 27th, 2012
5:57 am
david green and MaryV, I simply didn’t want to write 50 words when just a few will do. Sometimes you libs like to try to baffle us with your bullsh*t by writing paragraph after paragraph when all you really mean is “Bush did it”, or “Republicans bad – Democrats good”.
We get it that your thought processes don’t run deep enough to move past the 4-word accusation level.
I was just responding in a way you are capable of understanding without boring you to tears with reams of actual facts you couldn’t possibly comprehend.
Lil' Barry Bailout (Revised Downward)
May 27th, 2012
7:35 am
So you can’t come up with anything, david green?
You made a pretty bold claim earlier about Christians desiring to “use the power of the state to impose their religious beliefs and doctrine upon the nation” but it looks like it’s the libtards doing it. Nice projection.
Yes, Christians do tend to oppose killing the unborn and do tend to oppose perverting the meaning of “marriage”. Pretty awful stuff.
But it is the libtards who do most of the imposing, forcing, requiring, and mandating. Pay your fair share (as if the productive class isn’t already). Buy your health insurance as a condition of breathing. Give the government your property so private developers can build shopping malls. No, your bar cannot allow smoking. No, your restaurant can’t put salt shakers on your tables.
Libtards can’t decide which the like better, communism or fascism, so they draw the worst ideas from both.
MarkV
May 27th, 2012
7:47 am
MarkV@9:59 pm; ‘What Tiberius’s comment aptly demonstrates is not just the willful ignorance of history, but also his pathetic inability to make an argument other than “you are wrong.”
Tiberius @5:57 am: Confirms the above.
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May 27th, 2012
8:05 am
Kinda funny when I see a liberal “preaching” about how conservatives shouldn’t preach.
Rafe Hollister- trying to save the Choom Gang
May 27th, 2012
8:36 am
david greene
Is Woodruff Park short one street preacher this Sunday morning?
MarkV
May 27th, 2012
9:10 am
Dusty @ May 25th, 7:48 pm
I do not know how I missed Dusty’s post, but I did until now. The Memorial Day is supposed to be a somber occasion of reflection, and I now am forced to laugh at Dusty’s hilarious misinterpretation of what I have written. “My beloved Germany?” “Rude and unnecessary accusation?” Show me one, Dusty. You have reminded me of ”the most simple historical facts of WWII & WWII?” I challenge you to repeat a single one you reminded me of that makes sense.
I did not brag about my great knowledge, I merely suggested that I knew the history of Europe better than you, and you have not shown so far anything that would make me think otherwise. All your writings about this subject have been banal platitudes.
Lil' Barry Bailout (Unexpectedly Revised Downward--Again)
May 27th, 2012
9:22 am
Woodruff Park is missing its street preacher, and a village in Indonesia is missing its idiot.
MarkV
May 27th, 2012
9:35 am
When david green wrote the following @May 26th, 3:55 pm,
“The harsh reparations demanded by President Woodrow Wilson did just as they were intended to do: which was to punish the Germans by destroying their national economy which then brought about the very social conditions that gave rise to Hitler,”
which apparently raised the ire of Dusty and perhaps others, he merely repeated what most historians consider to be undeniable facts, in the sense that the victors of WWI by their actions set into motion events that resulted in the rise of Hitler and WWII. As I suggested in my post @May 26th, 2012. 6:38 pm, however, such statements fail to consider “all the reasons, circumstances and alternatives as well as the general inability of politicians to see the future.”
More to the point, it would be a mistake, in my view, to view those facts of “setting events into motion” as a reason to blame Wilson, the US and others on their side for the events that followed. They were quite justified in what they did. There was nothing inevitable in what followed. With different players than Hitler and his followers and sympathizers, WWII would not have happened, and only they are the guilty party. With different actions of Wilson and other, WWII could still have happened. There is a world of difference between acknowledging the conditions that existed, and assigning blame for a lack of clairvoyance and events that followed.
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May 27th, 2012
9:44 am
Take up our bills for which we owe
To you with the money a tax we throw
The thorns; remove them from our sides
If ye do not submit to us who recline
We will not only wail, we will eat your poppies
And defecate in your fields
Just thought I’d include the liberals in our Memorial Day celebration…
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May 27th, 2012
9:54 am
Dusty- Do you receive community service credits for your attempts to educate MarkV?
MarkV
May 27th, 2012
10:11 am
I Report @9:54 am
What credit Dusty receives I cannot say, but you sure to do no get any credit for your idiocy.
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May 27th, 2012
10:34 am
Aahhh, fact free Marky, once again peddling his hollow and empty keystrokes in an ill fated attempt to impress his betters.
Didn’t work, same as always girlfriend.
MarkV
May 27th, 2012
10:39 am
I Report @10:34 am
More idiocy from a known idiotic source.
Fartavious
May 27th, 2012
10:45 am
All politicians are crooks and liars.