Oh, Fulton County: A jail with locks that don’t work (Updated)

Stories like this one from today’s AJC are infuriating to me:

For all the tens of millions of dollars that taxpayers pour into the Fulton County jail every year, the lockup can’t perform the basic function of keeping inmates locked up in cells.

The 23-year-old jail has such shoddy door locks that inmates can jam them with soap, toilet paper, shards of cloth or other trash and leave their cells at will. Motor-operated sliding doors on the maximum security levels can be jimmied open with pieces of cardboard.

This year’s Fulton County budget includes $68.1 million for the jail. Since a 2006 federal court order to improve security at the overcrowded jail, the county has spent more than $50 million to house inmates elsewhere and an estimated $86 million more, including interest, to renovate the facility.

And yet, the locks on the $@^*@&! cells don’t even work properly.

Consider stories like this one as you read about Georgia Republicans’ plans to shrink Fulton County’s impact on residents’ lives on the way to breaking it up. The kind of incompetence on display at the jail demands action from someone.

*No link; for now, the story is available online only for subscribers to our iPad app or E-Edition. I’ll update this post if that changes. (The full story is now online. Also, the headline has been changed from the original “Only in Fulton County …”)

– By Kyle Wingfield

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105 comments Add your comment

iggy

May 17th, 2012
12:12 pm

So thats how Finn escaped.

Hillbilly D

May 17th, 2012
12:49 pm

As Forrest Turner once told me, when you’re incarcerated all you have to do to occupy yourself is to figure out ways to get out, and you’ve got plenty of time.

I Report (-: You Whine )-: mmm, mmmm, mmmmm! Just sayin...

May 17th, 2012
12:54 pm

How else will they get out to vote for their local dummycrat, Kyle?

geez, man, you’re so naive.

Jefferson

May 17th, 2012
12:56 pm

The thief is the seller, not the buyer.

Cutty

May 17th, 2012
1:04 pm

Kyle’s faux outrage is laughable at best, and at worst shows his true intentions. Ate the locks a problem? Yes. Are inmates escaping from the jail? No. A quick Google search showed that this is a problem that jails/prisons throughout the country deal with. From Santa Clara County, CS to James Correctional Facility right here in GA. Is Kyle going to go bat $*it that the locks in a private prison in this state don’t work either? Probably not. He’s just adhering to the party line that democratic-run governments don’t work. Kyle’s posts actually have me longing for the days of Jim Wooten. Luke voted for Newt so what does he know.

iggy

May 17th, 2012
1:07 pm

“He’s just adhering to the party line that democratic-run governments don’t work”

And apparently Kyle is correct. See APS, DCSS, Fulton Jail, Clayton County etc…

JohnnyReb

May 17th, 2012
1:07 pm

“He’s (Kyle) just adhering to the party line that democratic-run governments don’t work.”

That’s because they don’t.

Jefferson

May 17th, 2012
1:19 pm

And the GOP run gov’t is worse…

Grasshopper

May 17th, 2012
1:19 pm

NOW APPEARING:

Cutty — Champion of Prison Riots and Convicts on the Street Nationwide!

Kyle Wingfield

May 17th, 2012
1:20 pm

Cutty: Would you like to take issue with anything besides the first few words of the headline? Or just continue with your poor attempt at mind-reading?

Kyle Wingfield

May 17th, 2012
1:26 pm

Btw, Cutty, I notice you didn’t comment on my earlier post today criticizing our Republican-run state government. Of course, that one goes against your petty little theories about me.

DannyX

May 17th, 2012
1:33 pm

“From Santa Clara County, CS to James Correctional Facility right here in GA. Is Kyle going to go bat $*it that the locks in a private prison in this state don’t work either?

$@^*@&! great comment Cutty!

Is it Fulton?

May 17th, 2012
1:38 pm

Hmmm… I wonder if the government built the doors or if there is a corporation out there somewhere producing shoddy locks….

Jefferson

May 17th, 2012
1:39 pm

“petty” good one…

iggy

May 17th, 2012
1:41 pm

“Hmmm… I wonder if the government built the doors or if there is a corporation out there somewhere producing shoddy locks….”

Yeah. It kinda reminds one of that old adage “Buyer Beware.”

Cutty

May 17th, 2012
1:42 pm

Kyle said, ‘only in Fulton County.’ Then he takes issue when I refute his claim by showing that this occurs in other jurisdictions, regardless of party. Maybe you should get more factual headlines. Didn’t read your post this morning bc we know ethics in this state is a pipe dream.

MarkV

May 17th, 2012
1:46 pm

Gist of Kyle’s article: shoddy door locks infuriate him.

They infuriate me too.

End of story.

Is it Fulton?

May 17th, 2012
1:46 pm

If Kyle was truly concerned, he might do a little investigative journalism, review the contracts for the jail, find the company responsible for the POS locks, and expose the company that is getting paid millions of dollars for faulty equipment.

Instead, in true tea party form, he lazily blames fulton county government for the $h!tty equipment.

Kyle Wingfield

May 17th, 2012
1:48 pm

No, Cutty, what I take issue with is your turning a problem in the headline — which I’ve now changed — into a wild-eyed claim about partisanship on my part.

But what I really take issue with is your making that kind of claim when, by your own admission, you don’t bother to read my posts that run counter to your wild-eyed claim.

iggy

May 17th, 2012
1:49 pm

As usual the libtards here and at the Fulton County purchasing office take no responsibility for their lacks decision making and laziness.

Jefferson

May 17th, 2012
1:55 pm

if the gas pump fills your car with diesel fuel instead of gas, ig says you should have checked it and you are lazy.

iggy

May 17th, 2012
1:56 pm

No…I never said anything about fuel.

Becky

May 17th, 2012
1:57 pm

Um Kyle-you were just owned by Cutty. Man up and apologize.

Jn 2

May 17th, 2012
1:59 pm

You build a new house and the roof leaks, sucks to be you, huh ig? You buy a new car and it’s a lemon, you’re SOL, right ig?

finn mccool

May 17th, 2012
1:59 pm

Wow, even when we aren’t in charge the cons can only point fingers at dems.

How about some personal responsibility, iggy?

Didn’t think so

iggy

May 17th, 2012
2:01 pm

If one doesnt use their warranty for the new house then too bad.
If one doenst take advantage of the 3 day lemon law then tough noogies.

ByteMe

May 17th, 2012
2:02 pm

Since a 2006 federal court order to improve security at the overcrowded jail, the county has spent more than $50 million to house inmates elsewhere and an estimated $86 million more, including interest, to renovate the facility.

And it’s still overcrowded. Kyle, will the recently signed “sentencing and prison reform” bill help with existing conditions or just slow the future overcrowding?

Grasshopper

May 17th, 2012
2:03 pm

So if the locks don’t work, what are they spending $136 million on?

Hand-chiselled granite toilets? Onyx busts of MLK?

Kyle Wingfield

May 17th, 2012
2:10 pm

And now we have “Is it Fulton?” — a.k.a. “M.C. getting hammered,” a.k.a. “Jana,” a.k.a. “Sarah P.,” et al. — randomly putting together words that appear in the post without bothering to read the underlying story, which details:

1. The company that sold the locks to the jail is Southern Folger.

2. Those locks have been discontinued, and the issue is replacing them with updated models — not necessarily their being “POS.”

3. This has been a problem for more than a decade.

I could go on, but “Is it Fulton?” probably won’t read all of this, either.

Kyle Wingfield

May 17th, 2012
2:13 pm

ByteMe: I don’t know how many of the Fulton inmates are there for the kinds of offenses — e.g., nonviolent drug offenses — covered by the reform.

DannyX

May 17th, 2012
2:17 pm

From the AJC article Kyle linked to, Republican Tom Lowe Fulton County commissioner from District 4 which includes a big part of the proposed new Milton County:

“I really think this lock thing is blown out of proportion,”

Kyle then links to another story about Republicans plan to shrink Fulton County

Kyle Wingfield

May 17th, 2012
2:23 pm

DannyX: Your point?

Given that inmates have been able to leave their cells and beat other inmates, also putting jail employees at risk, I disagree with Commissioner Lowe’s assessment.

Kyle Wingfield

May 17th, 2012
2:25 pm

Btw, Cutty, I’ve done a few quick Google searches of my own and turned up nothing about lock problems at either of the jails you mentioned. Do you have links?

JDW

May 17th, 2012
2:28 pm

Well I think you are right on this one Kyle…if the locks in a jail don’t work that’s a problem!

Jefferson

May 17th, 2012
2:51 pm

Sounds like we need a new jail in N Fulton.

Gimme Gimme Gimme

May 17th, 2012
2:52 pm

The Bookman crowd discovered what’s wrong with the world today. According to them it’s white people.

DannyX

May 17th, 2012
2:52 pm

“DannyX: Your point?”

You tied this story into the story about Republicans wanting to eventually create a new Milton County, “Consider stories like this one as you read about Georgia Republicans’ plans to shrink Fulton County’s impact on residents’ lives on the way to breaking it up.”

Yet the Republican commissioner that represents that area says the lock story is blown out of proportion. Lowe was elected by, and represents a big part of the Milton County area and is part of the problem here, yet you seem to imply this is another reason to break up Fulton County.

If find that very ironic.

Jefferson

May 17th, 2012
2:55 pm

They need a landfill and maybe some site for the waste from the state sponsered GA power nuke plant. Who would want to live there then ? N. Fulton folks have it made, but that’s not enough.

finn mccool

May 17th, 2012
3:05 pm

They are called larry craig locks for a reason…

Kyle Wingfield

May 17th, 2012
3:09 pm

DannyX: He was also defending his and the other commissioners’ inaction on the problem. That’s the other way to look at his quote.

As for me and Milton County: I’m on the record as skeptical of adding another county to our present 159. I would, however, be in favor of lessening the presence of the county government in Fulton, given that it’s almost all incorporated. So I agree with Rep. Jones and others up to that point.

@@

May 17th, 2012
3:13 pm

If all violent crimes got the death penalty, we wouldn’t need to house ‘em.

Cold? You bet!

Lenix, who friends said was on a date Monday night at the drive-in, couldn’t get his Ford Escape to start and approached Williams for help, police said.

But Williams allegedly shot Lenix in the chest, got into his truck and left the drive-in, leaving Lenix lying on the ground, according to the incident report obtained by the AJC.

If or when they find Williams guilty, introduce him to Ol’ Sparky as soon as possible.

Mitt Lenix was an exceptional young man with a promising future. A friend to many here in Clayton County.

Does anyone doubt that Williams or his family received help at one time or another? I’d bet on it.

When someone asked for his help, Williams administered the death penalty.

Grasshopper

May 17th, 2012
3:27 pm

“If or when they find Williams guilty, introduce him to Ol’ Sparky as soon as possible.”

Douse him with gasoline first though.

Rafe Hollister

May 17th, 2012
3:28 pm

It is amazing, the number of problems that consistently plaque Atl/Fulton County government, that you don’t see in the other 158 counties, well maybe Clayton and Dekalb, to a minor extent.

Why can these other counties operate more efficiently, economically, and ethically?

If I lived there, which I do not, I would insist on some answers from someone. One thing that seems overly apparent to me is that Fulton/Atlanta has used their government jobs as an employment placement service, rather than employing the least and best equipped employees necessary to get the job done.

Rafe Hollister

May 17th, 2012
3:36 pm

Instead, in true tea party form, he lazily blames fulton county government for the $h!tty equipment.

Yep, someone there should man up and take responsibility. The only job that a purchasing agent has is to make economical smart purchases. If they bought junk, it is their fault. RESPONSIBILITY, we all take it for stuff we buy, so why should someone who is paid to buy things not take responsibility. Buyer beware, is what we are taught, that is why a normal responsible person does research before making a major purchase. If they made a mistake and were taken, it is their responsibility to correct their mistake.

I Report (-: You Whine )-: mmm, mmmm, mmmmm! Just sayin...

May 17th, 2012
3:44 pm

Gimme Gimme Gimme

May 17th, 2012
2:52 pm

The Bookman crowd discovered what’s wrong with the world today. According to them it’s white people.

Is miss kookman wearing black face again?

She’s so ashamed of herself!

Finn McCool (The System isn't Broken; It's Fixed)

May 17th, 2012
4:13 pm

you don’t see in the other 158 counties

Well, Fulton does have the spotlight on it pretty brightly. More people, more problems. Fact of life.

Ayn Rant

May 17th, 2012
4:19 pm

Gee, Rafe! You and the Republican legislators knows what’s wrong with Fulton, DeKalb and Clayton counties; why not just come right out and say it instead of whine about it in verses, chapters, and volumes? Too many black people!

The other 150+ Georgia counties don’t have any problems. They assure every child a world-class education, every adult a good-paying job with medical and retirement benefits, and every unruly citizen a secure, uncrowded jail. That’s why we never read about them.

Tiberius - Banned by Bookman and proud of it!

May 17th, 2012
4:23 pm

Iggy had the post of the day with his first comment. :lol:

ByteMe

May 17th, 2012
4:23 pm

I’m on the record as skeptical of adding another county to our present 159.

I’m not just skeptical. I want them to reduce it by 50 before thinking about splitting any up. About half of South Georgia could be 10 counties and no one except their football teams would care.

I also want them to get rid of the political job named “sheriff” and replace it with a professional jail administrator.

I’m dreaming, of course.-

Tiberius - Banned by Bookman and proud of it!

May 17th, 2012
4:27 pm

Why is it that the libs like Rant always bring up race when none is stated nor implied?? Is that really all you’ve got?