2012 Tuesday: Team Obama moves ‘Forward’ by dredging up, distorting Romney’s words from 2007

That ball will be spiked repeatedly in the coming months.

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“I do not concur in the words of Barack Obama in a plan to enter an ally of ours …

Mitt Romney

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But he has officially strayed from “not spiking the ball” — at the very least, he’s moved on to “the other guy wouldn’t have had a ball to spike.”

And Romney’s showing he’s lousy at defending himself.

The implication is that he’ll be just as lousy defending the country. Own him, Republicans! He’s your Kerry 2004 bumper sticker.

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Lies by O…mission.

Desperation brings out the worst in a person.

Forward!!??!! That’s it!!??!!

On to being a ward of the state. Perhaps “Onward” would better fit “the empty suit.”

SCHNIRT!!!

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I think President Obama’s record is amazing. I have been a Republian most of my life (first pres I voted for was Nixon) but couldn’t vote for McCain after he put the Bimbette on the ticket. I also saw the way he was behaving during the economic crisis. He could not make a decision. President Obama made many very tough decisions that have brought us through that horrible time to a better economy. If McCain were President, we wold have 15% unemployment, massive business failures. The banking system would be totally dysfunctional. He got a flawed health care bill through. It doesn’t resemble his original plan because the Republicans can’t possibly let him be successful so Congress ripped the original plan apart and stitched a Frankenstein plan back together. But, by God, he got it done. This is something that has plagued this country for decades and politicians have given it short shrift because most politicians have no guts. Obama got the process started. Make fun, Kyle, how can you not look back if you have to run on your record? Ernest T. Bass is right, if Dubya the Dumb (the first time ever I did not vote Republican) was running we would gag over the ads showing bin Laden dead body being stomped on by the Seals. When will you idiots concede that Obama is smart, hard working, has accomplished more in three years than Bush did in eight years–and racking up two unfunded wars and Medicare Part D, which is his payback to the Pharma industry doesn’t count?

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Or maybe they did, but there was very little news about what happened between his being shot and dumped in the water.

The specifics I’ve seen in the news:

1. They killed him.
2. Took him to an aircraft carrier and used known copies of his DNA and other technology to positively identify him.
3. Took pictures to prove it was him.
4. Buried him at sea to prevent a burial shrine from ever being built to him.

They have no intention of releasing the photos to the public for a lonnnng time.

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From the President’s press conference question related to this:

As far as my personal role and what other folks would do, I’d just recommend that everybody take a look at people’s previous statements in terms of whether they thought it was appropriate to go into Pakistan and take out bin Laden.I assume that people meant what they said when they said it. That’s been at least my practice.

I said that I’d go after bin Laden if we had a clear shot at him, and I did. If there are others who have said one thing and now suggest they’d do something else, then I’d go ahead and let them explain it.

Double Ziiiing…..

Must suck, Kyle, to have to back a candidate that you know is terrible just because enough other Republicans decided it was “his turn”.

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Romney never would have had the gonads to kill Bin Laden. But he sure wanted GM dead.

Luckily for this nation, Bin Laden is dead and GM is is chugging along.

And let us not forget that the worst terrorist attack ever happened on Bush’s watch, as did the worst recession since the great depression.

Republicans: weak on terror and terrible with the economy.

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“Forward!”–the battle cry of the international Communist movement.

Heckuva job selecting a slogan, Obozo. Right up there with your short-lived “Winning the Future” (WTF) moment.

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“Forward!”–the battle cry of the international Communist movement.

Lil’ Barry sees communists under his bed.

BOO!!

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@LBB…”Cry of international Communist movement”

Joe McCarthy would be proud of you.

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Obozo: Dedicated Marxist.

Lil’ Barry thinks we actually care about someone yelling “communists!” in a crowded theater.

BOO!!

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

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My guess is that the Teleprompter forgot how to spell the words “Great” and “Leap-”

The Great Leap Forward was a push by Mao Zedong to change China from a predominantly agrarian (farming) society to a modern, industrial society in just five years.

Between 1958 and 1960, millions of Chinese citizens were moved onto communes. All work was shared on the communes; from childcare to cooking, daily tasks were collectivized.

They’ve already got many of the peasants they need, i.e. dummycrats.

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Deborah- He got a flawed health care bill through. It doesn’t resemble his original plan because the Republicans can’t possibly let him be successful so Congress ripped the original plan apart and stitched a Frankenstein plan back together

ROFL! The Republicans had nothing to do with that disaster the Democrats forced thru. It’s so bad, they had to bribe their own people to pass it. I guess they should have read it first.

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It’s hilarious that Romney tried to slam Jimmy Carter yesterday. Carter approved an assault on Iran during the hostage crisis. It failed, but Romney never would have had the b@lls to do such a thing. He wouldn’t have even tried. But it’s a moot point because Romney won’t ever get to make those decisions anyway. By now Americans understand that Republicans are weak on terrorism and terrible on the economy.

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Not a bad column, Kyle, but here is proof-positive that the current Disaster-in-Chief lied to the American people in his recent campaign ad by taking a snippet of a larger response from Mitt Romney and using it to create the false impression that Romney wouldn’t have made the same decision Obama made.

Here’s the full quote:

LIZ SIDOTI: “Why haven’t we caught bin Laden in your opinion?”

GOVERNOR MITT ROMNEY: “I think, I wouldn’t want to over-concentrate on Bin Laden. He’s one of many, many people who are involved in this global Jihadist effort. He’s by no means the only leader. It’s a very diverse group – Hamas, Hezbollah, al-Qaeda, Muslim Brotherhood and of course different names throughout the world.”

(The snippet used by the lying President Obama) “It’s not worth moving heaven and earth and spending billions of dollars just trying to catch one person.”

(The rest of Romney’s remarks) “It is worth fashioning and executing an effective strategy to defeat global, violent Jihad and I have a plan for doing that.”

Source: http://ace.mu.nu/archives/328802.php

And what a surprise that AP was distorting the true meaning of Romney’s remarks. Following that interview, Romney was asked to clarify his position during a debate:

Romney: “Thank you. Of course we get Osama bin Laden and track him wherever he has to go, and make sure he pays for the outrage he exacted upon America.”

Moderator: “Can we move heaven and earth to do it?”

Romney: “We’ll move everything to get him. But I don’t want to buy into the Democratic pitch that this is all about one person — Osama bin Laden — because after we get him, there’s going to be another and another. This is about Shia and Sunni. This is about Hezbollah and Hamas and Al Qaida and the Muslim Brotherhood. This is a worldwide jihadist effort to try and cause the collapse of all moderate Islamic governments and replace them with a caliphate. They ultimately want to bring down the United States of America. This is a global effort we’re going to have to lead to overcome this jihadist effort. It’s more than Osama bin Laden. But he is going to pay, and he will die.”

No question as to what Mitt Romney would have done, now is there? Once you READ THE ENTIRETY of his position instead of relying on the bumper-sticker replies you get from Obama.

This President has NO HONOR whatsoever. A better man would never have “spiked the ball” (especially after saying he wouldn’t), nor would he do it using a lie to score cheap political points.

The current Disaster-in-Chief has been replaced by the Liar-in-Chief. The small, petty Chicago hood has come out to campaign.

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ByteMe

May 1st, 2012
7:16 am
I wonder when Romney is going to nominate a VP that will — in the future — cheat on his wife and father a child by her, then deny it, pay her off, get a campaign aide to claim it was his…

John Edwards probably wont be available, and Bill Clinton is not interested. Neither is Jesse Jackson.

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Former deputy national intelligence officer for transnational threats, a 23-year senior CIA analyst, who “drafted or was involved in many of the government’s most senior assessments of the threats facing our country [and who] devoted years to understanding and combating the jihadist threat”, writes today in the Washington Post that the neocons have whipped us into an irrational fear of the terrorism. In reality, “Osama bin Laden and his disciples are small men and secondary threats whose shadows are made large by our fears” and our leaders.

This is no surprise to anyone who has been paying attention. The BBC produced a documentary called The Power of Nightmares in 2005 that showed that politicians were greatly exaggerating the terrorist threat for political ends.
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Whatever works for the shallow intellect of Romney/Obama supporters.
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There are so many lies, its just a matter of whose propaganda you choose to believe.

The smart people…(Ron Paul supporters) ….choose not to choose.

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“By now Americans understand that Republicans are weak on terrorism and terrible on the economy.”

Which, of course, is why the national polls are all pointing to a landslide victory for Obama in 2012 – oops! – not really, are they?

Reality, Progressive Humanist. Try a small dose of it sometime. You do not represent, nor understand, even a small portion of Americans living in your liberal bubble.

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It amazes me how many “seers” we have on this blog. If Obama had not been elected then…; if Romney had been in charge then…BACKWARD

The problem with you people, is that you love the rhetoric more than you love America. If you start paying attention to what is really happening, not your biased perspective on what is happening, this country may actually change for the better. WITH BLINDERS

No politician is a God. Everything they do requires many hands to execute. They are paid only if elected. Do you think that anyone is going to interfere with their ability to earn for the cause of the common good. NO, they’re not, they do for others, so others will do for them.

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“In reality, “Osama bin Laden and his disciples are small men and secondary threats whose shadows are made large by our fears” and our leaders.”

I suggest you and that idiot of an NIO and CIA analyst consult the families of the over 3,00 Americans who died on 9/11, Thomas Heyward. Maybe they should consult the economists, financial wizards and investors who experienced the loss of billions in savings and investments in the months following 9/11 as our economy suffered from those attacks.

You Paulistas have a quirky view on the real world. It might be better if you tried to live in it sometime.

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progressive- And let us not forget that the worst terrorist attack ever happened on Bush’s watch

So Clinton gutting our military and shutting down our intelligence agencies (because he was worried they would investigate him) had nothing to do with it? To borrow a line from obama’s Forward! campaign, “It’s Clinton’s fault”.

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Oh, and Kyle? Thanks for flushing that particular turd. Don’t know how you attract them so much.

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When you’re heading toward a cliff, Mr. President, the last thing you want to do is keep moving “Forward.”

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You know, this “Forward” thing is probably the only thing to run on for the current Liar-in-Chief.

He certainly doesn’t want to look back.

His signature piece of legislation, despised by more Americans now than when it was passed, looks to be overturned by the SCOTUS. His silly interfering in the sovereignty of a state’s right to handle that which his administration will not looks about to be overturned by the SCOTUS. The best thing his dogwashers can say about his economic stewardship is that “we’re turning the corner”. As Boortz put it so beautifully yesterday, he’s seen blue hairs driving their Buicks around their nursing home parking lots looking like NASCAR drivers compared to Obama’s “turning the corner”. And let’s not forget the additional $5 TRILLION in new debt (he’s now responsible for 1/3rd of this nations entire debt in just 3 years) and the downgrading of our bond rating.

So “Forward” is probably the best thing he can hope for, because looking back doesn’t do him much good.

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Finn McColl, you DO know the difference between saying you weren’t going to “spike the ball”, and not saying that, don’t you?

You DO know the difference between “distorting” and “lying”, don’t you?

Your kindergarten-level defense of “He did it first!” would work so much better if the current Liar-in-Chief hadn’t forgotten he promised to take the high road on this, and so many other issues.

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Romney is a huge jerk…!!! My brother went and saw him in Charlotte. Hates him..!!! Says he will not only not stay home this November…he will vote Democrat..!!!! First time in 30 years of voting….Says Romney is worse than Al Gore…thinks his crap don’t stink and everybody else should kiss his feet…..

Full Disclosure……I don’t particularly care for Mormons….and I was a BIG Clinton man in the late 90’s. I voted for HW Bush twice, but I voted for Clinton the second time….I voted for Gore but I regret that….I also voted for GW Bush over Kerry/Edwards….I don’t really regret that…..but I should’ve stayed home on that one…..

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“A better answer than yesterday’s “even Jimmy Carter would have done it,” because it opened the door to Romney’s past statements on the topic.”

Yet Romney’s past statements on this topic were very clear, ByteMe (as I have pointed out), if you had only taken the time to read and listen to them in their entirety, rather than rely on the lie from this pathetic excuse of a President.

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Kyle writes and shows what Romney said as an “explanation” of what he meant. Why did he not quote Romney’s original words?

Obama:” If we have actionable intelligence about high value terrorist targets and President Musharraf would not act, we will.”

Romney” I do not concur in the words of Barack Obama in a plan to enter an ally of ours.”

Two days later, apparently after he was told that his words did not play well, Romney “explained” what he meant. But his original words stand. He could have said the first time that he did not agree with Barack Obama saying what he would do. He did not. He did not concur with what Obama said, did not concur with “If we have actionable intelligence about high value terrorist targets and President Musharraf would not act, we will.” Then he flip-flopped again. It is a legitimate question to ask what Romney would have done, if he were the president.

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I am simply shocked at how many life-long Republicans are now voting Democrat. Hmmmmmm

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Haley Barbour, Newt, Rick Perry…for God’s sakes…..Herman Cain, Santorum……

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It’s one thing to not be a Christian……but to be a jerk….!?!?!?

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Cutty, I suggest you read my 8:27 before you post such nonsense again.

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When t don’t like the message, he attacks the poster, what does that tell about t ? How does it make him feel ? What is the obsession with the basement ? The GOP did it again, found a bad idea and is trying to polish it.

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“When t don’t like the message, he attacks the poster”

Yeah, ’cause religious bigotry is the best way to get your point across, right, Jefferson?

You libs scream tolerance, right up to the point where it doesn’t fit your warped view of the world.

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Kyle, you’re starting to sound desperate. Have secret polls already told you Obama is likely to win?

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“The Republicans had nothing to do with that disaster the Democrats forced thru.”

Are you kidding me? Granted the Repubs have done nothing…..but be obstructionists!
Oh and Boehmer, where are the jobs? Also you have had 11 years to initiate an immigration bill; where is it?

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Really, Road, you’ve got to up your game, son.

In fact, republicans actually had nothing to do with Obamacare passing. Not a single proposed change or addition to the bill was allowed by either the House or the Senate; both chambers being run by Democrats. In most cases, amendments weren’t even allowed on the floor or in any committee by the chairmen-women who were running the show. So there was no obstruction whatsoever by Republicans on that particular bill.

The House version passed by 5 votes – only one Republican voted for the bill. It received no votes in the U.S Senate from any Republican.

You may not like it, but claiming GOP obstruction on that bill is false.

Oh, and the rest of your post is deflection from the issue at hand.

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I suggest you read my 8:27 before standing by your latest nonsense at 10:12.

Just because you wrote it doesn’t make it true. I suggest you get your ego checked out. It’s enlarged.

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Oh and Boehmer, where are the jobs?
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Unemployment is down a percentage point since Americans gave the GOP control of the House. There’s only so much that can be accomplished, given Democrat obstruction.

For more progress, push “Republican” in November.

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Tib: Didn’t many of the ideas behind what was written come from Repub ideas/positions before President Obama was elected?

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Wow Kyle, run out of things to write this morning? What color is your dress this morning? The Romney camp essentially slandered the rest of the GOP field to get the nomination. And remember when Romney’s camp said Obama didn’t want to talk about the economy in 2008? Even though Obama was referencing McCain’s reluctance to do so at the time? Romney’s people basically said “too bad.”

Were you OK with W landing on an aircraft carrier with a Mission Accomplished sign hanging from the ship? If you are representative of Republicans this year, whining, sniveling, children, then we are all in trouble…..

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When donning a flight suit to celebrate, Bush was connecting with his troops, a principle he continues through today. It may have been premature, but it was effective for those troops. George Bush may not have been a great President, but he is a great man. He has shown unbelievable class over the last three years, something Mr. Obama seems to know nothing about.

The problem with Obama’s “spike”, is his monomaniacal attitude…once again he takes the credit…I grant him respect for doing the right thing, but it was his job. He is not a super hero because he issued the order. Many were involved, and the buck stopped with him.

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The problem with Obama’s “spike”, is his monomaniacal attitude

Man, there goes the black guy gettin’ all uppity….

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Kyle is always there to shove his own head up his own a**, so dependable that way. And you whine when nobody takes you seriously? Really??? This is probably one of your more pathetic columns, but then you only copy/pasted it from your handlers.

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I bet…because of the word forward’s ties to Marxism and communism…it will not last long. Look the word up on goggle or wikipedia…

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“Just because you wrote it doesn’t make it true.”

Road, here’s a clue when trying to argue a particular point. Next time, actually do what the other poster suggests, this way you’re not exposed for being an idiot. What I wrote USED THE ACTUAL QUOTES FROM ROMNEY – WITHOUT PARSING, HYPERBOLE OR CREATIVE FICTION.

Romney’s ENTIRE WORDS make what I posted true. Do your homework next time, son.

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“Tib: Didn’t many of the ideas behind what was written come from Repub ideas/positions before President Obama was elected?”

Flailing again, I see, Road.

The answer is a resounding NO! That some of those ideas came from individuals who called themselves Republican, does not make them Republican ideas. Cherry-picking (a specialty for libs like you and Bookman, btw) a Republican or two that believed in some of the ideas in Obamacare, while ignoring the other 99.9% of Republicans who did not, does not make your argument that they were Republican-supported ideas.

It is the difference between intellectual honesty when discussing the reality of the situation, and your approach, which is diametrically opposite of intellectual honesty.

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As someone who voted for Rick Santorum and donated $2K to his campaign, I just cannot and will not be supporting Mitt Romney this fall. We Republican’s need to have an open and honest conversation about this election and the perils of blindly following the Republican Party establishment and who they have been shoving in our collective faces and down our collective throats. Voting for Mitt Romney will just get us exactly what we’ve had for the past 30 years: more of the same reckless fiscal policies and fiscal mess. Until and unless we get behind a TRUE conservative and not someone who just pays us lipservice to what Conservatives truly stand for and believe in, then we as Republicans are doing ourselves and our country more harm than good.

As much as I think this country needs a stark change in Presidential leadership and direction, Mitt Romney is not the answer for leading our party or our country. How can we as Republicans ignore Mitt Romney’s record and all the things that he has said repeatedly while previously running for US Senate and Governor of Massachussettes? Was he lying then or is he lying to us now about what he truly stands for as a man? Deep in my gut, I don’t believe what he says, nor do I trust anything that he says he will do if he’s elected our President?

We as Republicans have to expect and DEMAND better from our party leaders, to do otherwise, by voting for Mitt Romney just sends the wrong message to our leaders. Aren’t we all tired of settling for less than what we deserve and pay taxes for?! WE CAN DO BETTER THAN THIS!

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Parsing, Ernest T. Why are you afraid of posting the ENTIRE quote?

Coward!

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WE CAN DO BETTER THAN THIS!

That’s a valid point. I believe we could do better than either of the two candidates but “none of the above” isn’t on the ballot. You either have to choose one or the other or sit it out.

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Romney = Obama, Rick Santorum WAS the GOP establishment – until he decided he wasn’t.

Yet YOU blindly followed him (I suspect on social issues alone, since Santorum certainly wasn’t a fiscal conservative in his years in the Senate).

And now you’re saying that you’re going to sit on your hands in November, because you believe Romney is no different than Obama? Hello! Earth calling!

Let’s forget the social issues for a second, and let’s even push away the fiscal issues so that you can focus on the REAL issue in this next election, OK?

Supreme Court nominees.

You think Ruth Bader Ginsburg is going to last another 4 years? Really? Scalia and Thomas aren’t getting any younger, either. Have you seen who the Liar-in-Chief has put on this Court? Far-left liberals who have zero comprehension of the Founding Father’s vision for America.

YOUNG liberals. Who will be on that court for a very, very long time.

And you want to sit on your hands and claim Romney is no better than Obama?

Seriously?

As we will likely see later this summer, the best way to curb the excesses of an out-of-control Congress is a responsible Supreme Court. Giving Obama another shot at replacing an older liberal with a younger one, or heaven forbid a conservative with a liberal, is the surest way to continue the downward slide this nation is experiencing.

Wake up and get real. Your hyperbolic rhetoric doesn’t come close to matching the reality. Your guy lost. Move on and at least admit that Romney is a lesser of two evils kind of choice if you must, but saying he’s no different than Obama is just plain silly.

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Democrats: Bending over “forward” since 1/20/2009.

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willard is weak on national security and our President won the first round.

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Pakistan wasn’t an “ally” at all – they let Bin Leaded take up residence in their country right next to a military installation. They knew exactly where he was and kept taking our aid money to boot.

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LBB @ 12:20

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I saw the report on CNN this morning about those people, @@.

First thing I thought of was that some Occupy nuts (a redundant term, I know) had escaped their grandmother’s basements.

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Where is the tea party ti?

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In order to move forward, you have to have a plan or a map so that you know where you are going and to be able to identify when things are moving off track. In running a large organization, that usually takes the form of an agreed upon budget. But the man who was going to bring us all together can’t even garner any votes for his budget in the House (it’s the only thing he has managed to get bi-partisan agreement on in his presidency)and his Democratic controlled Senate refuses to entertain even voting for a budget.So with no yardstick for measuring performance, we continue to move and spend, we just don’t really know where we are going. We do know it’s costing a whole bunch though. They may call it forward, I’d call it chasing your tail.

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Hey Sarah P., let’s play poker. I’ll play like a Republican you play like a Democrat. After I see your cards, and confirm that your words match your cards, I’ll play mine. Let’s see who wins.

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Real heroes, our Navy SEALS, are slamming Obozo for taking credit and politicizing bin Laden’s killing.

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ti,

Where are the tea party counter protests to fight for the 1 %?

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Tiberius- I’m embarassed that we are both Republicans. Your comments and vitrolic tirades do a disservice to our party and what we stand for. I voted for and supported Santorum because I thought that he was authentic, unlike Romney, and I believe that he actually stands for something. Did he have flaws? Yes, but when compared to the other candidates running this election cycle, I could live with Santorum flaws. Romney is nothing more than a slick used car salesman trying to meet his monthly quota. We can do better than that. Romney is a Capitalist, not a Conservative. I personally believe that a person has a right to change their mind on an issue, but for someone like Mitt Romney to have changed his mind on so many issues tells me that he has no principles and will tell us anything to get our votes. Well, he will never get mine, I will vote 3rd Party before I’ll vote for Mitt Romney.

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getalife – Biden is one heartbeat from the office….and your guy handpicked him; a political mouthpiece, a confessed plagerizer to sit there. Gives you some insight into Obama’s judgment.

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Did he say deficits don’t matter?

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Come on max.

Lets play.

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Hate to break it to you but W is not the president any more. This is Obama’s presidency and his record.

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Didn’t think so.

You cons are going down.

Be better losers this time.

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@@,

I would love to see the video in the future.

Double tapped.

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Max,

I use facts in my debate.

kyle does not.

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Very bold move to be in your face with the Forward slogan. Liberals will deny the meaning as they ridicule the conservatives for even thinking there is a connection.

If you have not studied the history of the socialist movement around the world, it’s time you started.

Anyone assuming this is an accident is ether naive or in denial. Nothing Obama has done to date has been an accident.

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Libya attacked us?

Oopsies!

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“Where are the tea party counter protests to fight for the 1 %?”

Well, since the Tea Party doesn’t break laws when they protest, nor espouse violence to further their agenda, I suspect they are sitting out today’s useless demonstrations and treating them as the irrelevant noisemakers they truly are.

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Romney’s claim now that he would have made the same decision as Obama has a value of exactly zero.
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Kind of like Obozo’s claim that he would shut down Gitmo, from which we got the intel that led to Osama?

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I have it on the best authority that Obama’s 2012 re-election slogan was either “Forward” or “No Child Left a Dime.” Guess he went with the shortest one cause most liberals are educational challenged.

As for anyone who thinks that this administration “got” OBL, you obviously know nothing about the SEALS specifically, or our military in general.

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Why doesn’t Romney get President Bush to help him with his run ?

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Dow hits forward high!

Whoops, I meant four year high.

Manufacturing shows solid gains in April. The UK had no good news to report , their austerity lead to another decline in manufacturing.

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“Narrow-minded partisanship is usually the province of the liberal mind.”

Based on many of your posts; can one deduct that you are liberal and narrow-minded?

You are as partisan as they come; right, center, left, etc, etc

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“The difference is that Bush prefers to remain quiet and dignified, while Carter just cannot.”

Translation: Bush left office with one of the worst approval ratings of all time

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Actual Translation: Bush AND CARTER left office with some of the worst approval ratings of all time

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“Actual Translation: Bush AND CARTER left office with some of the worst approval ratings of all time”

True that

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“it doesn’t in itself translate into your not being “narrow-minded” for the political / economic ideology that you do adhere too”

And what exact “political / economic ideology” do I adhere to, Irony?

On cannot be “narrow-minded” if one does not adhere to a fixed ideology.

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Oops!

http://www.csmonitor.com/World/Asia-South-Central/2012/0501/What-the-death-of-Osama-bin-Laden-means-for-Afghanistan

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I’d honestly rather Romney lose to Obama in November and give our party a fighting chance in 2016 to get a true CONSERVATIVE in office than suffer thru 4 or 8 years of the RINO that Mitt Romney is. Romney isn’t a severly conservative, he’s a severly fake republican! If we Conservatives don’t stand up for what we believe in now, then how do we expect the rest of the country to believe in our principles of fiscal responsibility and small, less intrusive government. Romney is wrong for our party, wrong for our party principles and ultimately wrong for our country. I know I’m not the only conservative that feels that way.

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R=O:

Aside from Santorum, whom would you suggest?

Just curious.

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mummy warm my milk

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And then there are the democratic spongepants.

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@@ at this point it’s ABR – Anyone BUT Romney. But seriously, chances are I’ll probably be voting for a third party, I’m just not sure yet who it will be.

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ohoh, Romney=Obama, you’re not drinking the kool-aid. Better get in line or Tiberius will have to show you just how much more intellectually qualified he is at any subject.

Stand back…

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Tiberius…Romney=Obama is obviously already a puppet to the religious right.

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R=O:

Gary Johnson? I checked him out early on. He’s not the sharpest knife in the drawer. I can see him getting a lot of registered democrats to vote for him. Even he predicts he’ll pull from their rank and file.

Q. Assuming you don’t win, whom do you think your candidacy will hurt the most?

A. You should vote for who you think is really going to best represent you and what you think. I’ve always believed that, so this isn’t a step out from that. Probably, it’s going to end up helping Romney. I’m probably going to take more Democrat votes — the whole civil liberties side of this. And I couple the civil liberties with, I think, the majority of Democrats — the majority of registered Democrats, not politicians, but just Democrats as a whole — understanding that monetarily, what we are doing is not sustainable.

Feel free, R=O.

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I hope to stand firm enough to not go backward, and yet not go forward fast enough to wreck the country’s cause.

Abraham Lincoln

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Fresh Prince, I have no desire to head back over to the Children’s Table. Although I wish josef and Brosephus would head over here more often to converse. They are two of just a few who actually look at alternative views based on the facts provided.

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mummy when can i hunt varmint and play sport

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The resident expert on distortion makes accusations. That’s called projecting, Wingnut. Very rich.

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Perhaps if Cindy Sheenan told obozo to stfu about OBL, then maybe we could move Forward! from this embarrassing episode of self glorification, patting ones self on the back, grandiosity, pompousness, bombastic outburst and overbearing bluster.

The Seals, they obviously do not respect.

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Tiberius – Banned from Bookman’s and proud of it!

May 1st, 2012
12:37 pm

Tib…from what I see Republicans doing — from Wisconsin to Ohio to Michigan…..there’s a lot that the GOP is doing…and Romney supports….that’s basically screwing over the public. That’s enough of a point to let many know that what the GOP is doing is raging a “war on democracy”!!

If Romney is supporting it…then we shoudl be against it!!

Lil’ Barry Bailout (Revised Downward)

May 1st, 2012
12:57 pm
As professional military men they should smile and remain silent.
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Too bad your Idiot Messiah won’t take that advice.

LBB…lest you forget, the President, as C-in-C, is the CIVILIAN authority over the military!! As such, he can state whatever he desires as to the military!!

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from this embarrassing episode of self glorification, patting ones self on the back, grandiosity, pompousness, bombastic outburst and overbearing bluster.

Kind of like landing on an aircraft carrier.

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@Tiberius – Where in the United States Constitution does it say that Corporations are people and are entitled to the same rights as you and I? You really do need to start thinking for yourself. And are you not concerned with foreign controlled corporations influencing our elections? If you’re not, then you should be. Our Constitution was set up to protect We People from the abuses of government, it does not mention whatsoever the rights of corporations. When was the last time a corporation took up arms to fight for our rights of freedom? When was the last time a corporation to a bullet for a fellow soldier?

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Kind of like landing on an aircraft carrier.

Well, that mission wasn’t accomplished. This one with OBL was accomplished, wrapped up, etc.

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Finn…did you see the body? Just askin.

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Tiberius – Banned from Bookman’s and proud of it!

May 1st, 2012
2:37 pm

Having accepted you challenge:
1) Romney is anti-labor and is against collective bargaining!

Romney Supports Ohio Collective Bargaining Initiative ‘110 Percent’
“I fully support Governor’s Kasich’s…question 2 in Ohio,” Romney said today in Fairfax, a suburb just outside of Washington, D.C. “Actually, I think, on my website, I think back as early as April, I laid out that I support question 2 and Governor Kasich’s effort to restrict collective bargaining in Ohio in the ways its described.”
http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/romney-supports-ohio-collective-bargaining-initiative-110-percent_604041.html

More later…..

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R>0

I have read much of your drivel about why you do not support Mitt. I suspect that no matter who the GOP nominated, you would find fault with. Santorum is a big government conservative. He loves to spend tax payer money to fund his idea of “conservative initiatives”, much in the mode of one GWB. He supported Arlen Spector over Pat Toomey, a true conservative, before ole Arlen sold out his party. I think you were just looking for a reason to pitch a pity party.

Tiberius is right about the SCOTUS. Anyone who would help Oblamer get reelected is sacrificing the future of this country for our children and grandchildren.

Someone above said you can’t trust either candidate’s words, but watch what they do. He is right, we have seen what Barry Oblamer has done, let us see what Mitt can do. What either of them say, take with a large grain of salt.

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“Now that is cherry pickin” since you don’t agree with what was proposed by REPUBLICANS!!!!!”

Road, you really need a lesson in the English language.

Republican(s) plural, is used to denote a group action, as in Republicans put forth a bill or policy at the party level. No such ideas that you claim to be “Republican” ideas ever were agreed upon by the Republican party, or a majority of Republican legislators in bringing forth legislation.

THEREFORE your use of the term “Republican ideas” are not ideas supported by the party or a majority of elected Republican officials, but are merely ideas that specific people who called themselves Republicans ascribed to. Ergo, your argument that “Republican ideas” are in the legislation known as Obamacare is without factual basis.

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Having accepted you challenge:
1) Romney is anti-labor and is against collective bargaining!
HDB
Romney Supports Ohio Collective Bargaining Initiative ‘110 Percent’
“I fully support Governor’s Kasich’s…question 2 in Ohio,” Romney said today in Fairfax, a suburb just outside of Washington, D.C. “Actually, I think, on my website, I think back as early as April, I laid out that I support question 2 and Governor Kasich’s effort to restrict collective bargaining in Ohio in the ways its described.”

Considering that Romney and Kasich are speaking of public sector unions, is there something wrong with this stance?

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“You cannot be serious with your responses.”

Not only serious, but on firm Constitutional grounds as envisioned by the Founding Fathers.

“Am I the only Republican/Conservatie who thinks that Citizens United was a bad decision?!”

I don’t know, as I have not bothered to speak to every Republican.

“Have the inmates completely take over our party?!”

In many ways, your party (not mine) has been taken over by the inmates. They are usually known as the religious right, but go by other names as well.

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Kyle: highlighting an explanation of a gaffe two days after it came out of Romney’s mouth is like closing the barn door after the horse escapes. Too late, my man. Romney has said alot of inconsistent stuff and will be very vulnerable to Daily Show style attacks from now to November.

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Tib…here’s 3….Romney discriminates against women’s equal pay…just like Scott Walker in Wisconsin….

Does Mitt Romney Support Equal Pay for Women?

Apparently, the upcoming recall election is not enough controversy for Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker. Last Thursday he decided to step it up a notch by also repealing the 2009 Equal Pay Enforcement Act in Wisconsin.

And since Mitt Romney has recently expressed his support for Walker—at a GOP dinner in Pewaukee, Romney called Walker a “hero”—the conversation on equal pay has shifted from the governor to the presidential candidate. Immediately following the repeal, President Barack Obama’s campaign spokeswoman Lis Smith emphasized Walker and Romney’s friendship and pointedly asked: “Does Romney think women should have the ability to take their bosses to court to get the same pay as their male coworkers? Or does he stand with Governor Walker against this?”

http://www.slate.com/blogs/xx_factor/2012/04/11/mitt_romney_and_lilly_ledbetter_equal_pay_act_we_ll_have_to_get_back_to_you_on_that_.html

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“Well, that mission wasn’t accomplished.”

Technically, since he was referring to the end of combat operations against the Iraqi army, and the successful completion of that aircraft carrier’s mission, it actually was.

But don’t let a good whine get destroyed by the facts, Finn.

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Am I the only Republican/Conservatie who thinks that Citizens United was a bad decision?!

If the choices are Citizens United or the MSM, I’ll go with Citizens United.

Even the ombudsman at the NYT has admitted his paper was in the tank for Obama.

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The writers for Jon Stewart and Stephen Colbert have been reduced to playing words with friends all day because there is simply too much material coming from Mittens.

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@Tiberious – Our Founding Fathers did not leave Europe to escape the tyranny of corporations. The ORIGINAL INTENT of the Founding Fathers when drafting the US Constitution was not to empower or protect corporations, but to protect the citizens from the power of government. Why is that such a hard concept for you to grasp?

@Rafe – What in Romney’s backgroud points to say that he is a Conservative? ANSWER: Absolutely nothing.

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tiberius is caught in a netherwolrd betwixt bookmanville and wingfieldlandia.

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Rafe Hollister

May 1st, 2012
3:03 pm

1) Voter fraud is a myth created by the GOP to disenfranchise minority voters.

“It has been a record year for new legislation designed to make it harder for Democrats to vote — 19 laws and two executive actions in 14 states dominated by Republicans, according to a new study by the Brennan Center for Justice. As a result, more than five million eligible voters will have a harder time participating in the 2012 election. Of course the Republicans passing these laws never acknowledge their real purpose, which is to turn away from the polls people who are more likely to vote Democratic, particularly the young, the poor, the elderly and minorities. They insist that laws requiring government identification cards to vote are only to protect the sanctity of the ballot from unscrupulous voters. Cutting back on early voting, which has been popular among working people who often cannot afford to take off from their jobs on Election Day, will save money, they claim.

None of these explanations are true. There is almost no voting fraud in America. And none of the lawmakers who claim there is have ever been able to document any but the most isolated cases. The only reason Republicans are passing these laws is to give themselves a political edge by suppressing Democratic votes.”

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/10/10/opinion/the-myth-of-voter-fraud.html

2) New voter-ID laws can serve as a POLL TAX…which has been made UNCONSTITUTIONAL!! Note…a 93-year old woman in Tennessee was denied her right to vote although her voter registration was current…and she had to PAY to get a birth certificate in order to obtain the required ID!!

2) Organizations that would be registering voters in Florida have run against a law so draconian that they have stopped registration. That has disenfranchised almost 80,000 people!!

It’s quite obvious how disenfranchisement will work in the general election!

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I’m a liberal democrat. One of the most ironic outcome of the last two election cycles is that as a liberal democrat I wouldn’t be that worried about the country’s direction if the Republican candidate became president. Especially this time. Romney is a liberal in wolf’s clothing.

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@Rafe – he cut “taxes” but raised fees on EVERYTHING, which is essentially a tax. How did he scale back the scope of government in Massachussettes? ANSWER: He didn’t! Thanks for playing.

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@Jeff Lea – And many Conservatives see the same thing that the liberals on the Left can see about Romney.

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HDB

If you believe that NYT distraction, that is good I guess. I have seen and heard of too many instances of felons, dead folk, and mentally disabled folks voting to think that it does not exist. Unions and political organizations bus in voters, who vote in precincts they are not allowed to vote in. People with two homes vote in person in one state and absentee in the other.

I kinda think my vote in important and if someone not legal to vote, votes opposite of me, they have cancelled me out. That kinda po’s me. The voting requirements the GOP is trying to get passed are not onerous, if they were all that was required to get a free lunch at Popeye’s, the line would extend around I-285. No one would claim that they didn’t have an ID, if a free bucket of chicken was on the line.

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Who’s “Crier” anyway?

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HDB

There is should be no right for government employees to organize. There is nothing to bargain for as the salary are already set by legislation. No reason to take action against the employer as they already have civil service protection against any abuse.

R>0

Fees are a conservative idea. The user pays, rather than have all taxpayers get stuck with the expense. Name one conservative thing your boy Barry has done?

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Tib….from the Washongton Post:

“Many automatically restore a felon’s voting rights upon release; others, like South Carolina, restore voting rights after an inmate successfully completes post-release supervision. Two states — Maine and Vermont — allow felons to vote while incarcerated. Even Virginia — traditionally one of the stingiest states in the country when it comes to restoring felons’ voting rights — has recently moved to reform and quicken the restoration process.”

The laws ARE there, Tib…not a fail!! Romney supports disenfranchisement!!

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“he cut “taxes” but raised fees on EVERYTHING, which is essentially a tax.”

As Rafe correctly pointed out, fees go directly towards those who actually USE the services being paid for. What is your problem with that?

“How did he scale back the scope of government in Massachussettes? ANSWER: He didn’t!”

A little education is in order for you, Romney=Obama. Please pay attention. When Mitt Romney was governor of Massachusetts, he was the head of a state whose legislature was made up of a veto-proof majority of rabid, left-wing Democrats and few Republicans. The scale of this majority was astounding; over 90% Democrats in the House and 95% in the Senate. Given that veto-proof majority, just where do you think Romney was going to find votes to reduce the size and scope of government in Massachusetts? That it didn’t GROW exponentially, and that he changed the way people paid for services to a fairer fee-based system is a miracle of leadership most people don’t truly appreciate.

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“PRESIDENT OBAMA MAKES SURPRISE TRIP TO AFGHANISTAN”

Hopefully scoping out retirement properties to enjoy beginning in January of 2013.

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Rafe Hollister

May 1st, 2012
3:31 pm
“HDB

There is should be no right for government employees to organize. There is nothing to bargain for as the salary are already set by legislation. No reason to take action against the employer as they already have civil service protection against any abuse.”

The right, however, DOES exists…and civil service protection isn’t as many think it is!! In at at-will state, many civil service protections are overridden by state law. From what I’ve been seeing, the right of labor is being abridged…..

BTW..there have only been 221 known instances of voter fraud!! I DO take my right to vote seriously…and your vote would probably cancel mine…but I would not change the law to create a problem where one doesn’t exist!!

Tiberius – Banned from Bookman’s and proud of it!

May 1st, 2012
3:31 pm

Those same people you are railing against ARE TAXPAYERS!! Negotiations done in good faith are not done at the end of a gun; labor does have tools to express their feelings….including the right to strike!! An exercising on one’s legal rights can not be abridged.

BTW, Tib…..…Walker’s policies are NOT paying off in Wisconsin! Wisconsin is LEADING the nation in JOB LOSSES!!

Wisconsin job losses highest in nation for last 12 months, federal report says

Wisconsin saw the largest percentage decrease in employment in the nation during the 12 months ending in March, a new report by the U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics said.

During that time period, while 27 states and the District of Columbia saw significant job increases, only Wisconsin saw “statistically significant” job losses, the report said.

From March 2011 to March 2012, the state lost 23,900 jobs, for the country’s largest percentage decrease, at 0.9 percent.

Of the 23,900 jobs lost in Wisconsin in that period, 17,900 were from the public sector and 6,000 were from the private sector, according to the BLS. (Note: Jobs and unemployment rate data in the BLS report for all the states and D.C. refers to non-farm employment.)

Wisconsin also had the third-worst employment losses for March compared to the previous month, with 4,500 fewer jobs than it had in February, the report said. Only Ohio and New Jersey were worse, with 9,500 and 8,600 fewer jobs, respectively.

Read more: http://host.madison.com/wsj/business/wisconsin-job-losses-highest-in-nation-for-last-months-federal/article_955e6c9a-8e4d-11e1-aba4-001a4bcf887a.html#ixzz1teEstN00

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“BTW, Tib…..…Walker’s policies are NOT paying off in Wisconsin! ”

HDB, do not ever parse my words to try to make a false point, got it?

I said they were paying off for TAXPAYERS, who have seen their property tax bills drop on average for the first time ever due to the ability to renegotiate bad contracts.

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I agree there are limits to these accolades. And most eyes will be on the economy in November. But if there ever was a party who portrayed the others as weak on defense, it’s the Republicans. It goes to show you that it’s all B.S. The main problem I have with Republicans are there slogans. Apparently, they’re more patriotic, more family values oriented, more religious, stronger on defense, against big government, etc, than everyone else. Just like Fox News is fair and balanced and everyone else is part of the lame stream liberal media. It’s packaged like soap.

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It’s the same whether you call it a direct tax or if it’s user based, it’s still revenue colleted by government and its called a TAX. And if Romney is such the “severly conservative” then why was he for abortion rights, and why did he and Anne give to planned parenthood, and why was he for gay marriages (before he was against it all)? Romney may be able to fool some Republicans, but he’s not fooling THIS republican.

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most eyes will be on the economy in November.
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Not if Obozo and the lamestream media have anything to say about it. The last thing they want attention on is the Messiah’s record.

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“Just like Fox News is fair and balanced”

Obviously someone who doesn’t actually watch the “news” portion of Fox News.

Hint: they actually ARE.

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“Not necessarily. I see a GOP-run Senate treating the filibuster the way it should; budgets and other fiscal matters get through on majority votes only, anything else will take the 60 votes for cloture.”

Unless they change the rules how will a Repub majority of less than 60 stop Dems from what Repubs are doing now?

I see the Dems playing the playing the same games…… unfortunately

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Tiberius – Banned from Bookman’s and proud of it!

May 1st, 2012
3:52 pm

Tib…not parsing…..when a state LOSES jobs, they’re losing TAXPAYERS…so how can you state that taxpayers are the beneficiaries of Walker’s policies when they are LOSING income to pay taxes?? That’s a LOSS in anyone’s book!!

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Can’t wait to hear his 5 year plan.

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Nancy and Harry rides again.

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Wow, someone’s words distorted during an election campaign. Who would’a thunk it?

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For all you Obozo haters on this blog who want to repeal Obamacare there is currently 1.3 billion dollars in rebates to consumers in the pipeline for excess profits of the insurance companies. What happens if the conservatives get a repeal from the Supreme Court???????? Either way a hell of a lot of voters will be thankful for Obamacare or will be pissed at the GOP. Nice campaign strategy? And Willard says his campaign theme is that Obama is unfair. Tell that to the people who get rebates. I guess it is unfair if your are an insurance executive or shareholder hoping to make money off excess premiums.

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Let me take this moment to point out…

jay is beneath me.

SCHNIRT!

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I’m shocked, shocked I tell you that politicians engage in distortion of their opponents words. You mean kinda like the 24/7 lies and distortions of the right since day one of Obama’s presidency?

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Democrats didn’t ask Romney what his decision would have been in Obama’s shoes,yesterday ,it was the press. And Mitt’s reply was something like “of course” he would have given the order to kill Osama bin Laden, as President Barack Obama did a year ago. And then added even Jimmy Carter would have got that one straight. The press had asked Romney the question knowing he had to flip flop to give the right answer. Romney threw in Jimmy Carter for cover. You can never be wrong taken shots at poor old Carter, attacks as the Republicans call this kind of talk. What Romney was saying in code was any dumb ass could have done what Obama did a year ago, yet they stood indignant as Obama rightfully defended himself with a factual argument. The content of what Romney says things is obviously important to Romney, that is the reason he changes his statements every time he opens his mouth.

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Ayn Rand

If you do not mind me asking, who did you vote for in the last 3 or 4 Presidential elections?

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@Lynn

May 1st, 2012
4:46 pm
Republicans all over this county need to dump their plans to humiliate women with the likes of new regulations/requirements that include vaginal ultrasounds and destroying Planned Parenthood.
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ITS TOO LATE.

You can’t put the sh*t back into the horse.

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Ti: I was going to tell you that they need you over at Bookman’s to keep them on topic but I see that you have stepped in it and can’t get the stink off your shoes regarding Bookman’s Blog! Did you have to stand in the corner too!

Regarding your rant about the use of the word “Republicans” More than one idea (amazingly) and more than one Republican had those ideas , thus the word Republicans! I will not poll you or others if they are TRUE CONSERVATVES or REPUBLICANS.

In the future I promise to be good and differentiate the Republican Party as a whole by using just that…the Republican Party…or the Republican leadership (some of which had these alleged ideas, but at times the rank and file did not share their views), or the Conservative, overbearing, lacking humor dipshiats, if you’d prefer that as an alternative!

Good night!

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Progressive Humanist
May 1st, 2012
7:25 am

Vote Romney: Back to the Future (2001)

Back to cheap gas, 4.2% employment, 3.5% GDP. Yeah, I can see what a good, card-carrying “progressive” would not want that.

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“What happens if the conservatives get a repeal from the Supreme Court????????”

Before or after the massive nationwide celebration?

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redneckbluedog, get two things straight.

First, you’re a religious bigot.

Two, you’re getting Romney. Deal with it, or don’t. There will be no brokered convention, no change in nominee. No knight in shining, Christian armor to save you from yourself.

Those are the facts, and they are not in dispute.

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Jack
May 1st, 2012
7:02 am: When I think about bin Laden, I always wonder why they dumped him in the ocean before his carcass was examined by U.S. authorities. Or maybe they did, but there was very little news about what happened between his being shot and dumped in the water.

It’s another Euro-centric, socialist/marxist/lugo tribe conspiracy.
But you are free to wait on bin Laden’s reappearance as long as you want.

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Lynn
May 1st, 2012
4:46 pm

The new women’s movement is going to make sure we don’t go “BACKWARDS”. Republicans all over this county need to dump their plans to humiliate women with the likes of new regulations/requirements that include vaginal ultrasounds and destroying Planned Parenthood.

Hmm let’s see, if you need a doctor for your woman problem go to a doctor. If you need an abortion, go to an abortion clinic. If you need free contraception, either quit buying starbucks and pay for it yourself, or go to planned parenthood. If you need a ride to the voting boot come election time, call Mr. Magoo. 1-800-Mrm-Agoo

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“Which is why she fits in so well with your party, GT”

Only Democrats lie?

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“Only Democrats lie?”

No, they just lie exponentially more often due to their policies typically being bereft of facts and logic.

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“No, they just lie exponentially more often due to their policies typically being bereft of facts and logic.”

Could you please expand on that……. I’m one to think that people are liars isn’t from them being a Democrat, Republican, Libertarian, etc. An individual’s propensity to lie, tell half truths or the whole truth comes from within.

One’s personal responsibilities and ethics, at least for people I have known, do not have anything to do with political affiliation or lack there of……… maybe in your experience that has been different……….

it is a big world out there and I surely wouldn’t say my experiences speak for any aggregate of any demographic; political or otherwise

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“Stuff” No One Says:

Wow, Obozo’s budget is really going to get us back to fiscal stability!

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@The Fresh Prince of Bill Ayers

May 1st, 2012
5:18 pm
Osama Died, The GOP Cried (boo hoo hoo)
May 1st, 2012
4:54 pm

GM IS ALIVE

OSAMA IS DEAD.

OBAMA IS IN AFGHANISTAN.

YA’ll CAN’T TOUCH THIS.

I’m sure he’s there picking some poppies while the first lady is pi$$ing away tax dollars on a family vacation to Mars with her personal chef, bartender,etc. You know, exploring their roots…
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SOUR GRAPES?

heeheeheeheeheeheeheehhe

DON’T HATE THE PLAYERS HATE THE GAME.

heeheeheeheeheeheeheeheeheeheeheeheeh

CHECKMATE

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After The 8 Years Of The Bush/Cheney Disaster, Now You Get Mad?

You didn’t get mad when the Supreme Court stopped a legal recount and appointed a President.

You didn’t get mad when Cheney allowed Energy company officials to dictate Energy policy and push us to invade Iraq.

You didn’t get mad when we illegally invaded a country that posed no threat to us.

You didn’t get mad when we spent over 800 billion (and counting) on said illegal war.

You didn’t get mad when Bush borrowed more money from foreign sources than the previous 42 Presidents combined.

You didn’t get mad when over 10 billion dollars in cash just disappeared in Iraq.

You didn’t get mad when Bush embraced trade and outsourcing policies that shipped 6 million American jobs out of the country.

You didn’t get mad when they didn’t catch Bin Laden.

You didn’t get mad when Bush rang up 10 trillion dollars in combined budget and current account deficits.

You didn’t get mad when you saw the horrible conditions at Walter Reed.

You didn’t get mad when we let a major US city, New Orleans, drown.

You didn’t get mad when we gave people who had more money than they could spend, the 1%, over a trillion dollars in tax breaks.

You didn’t get mad with the worst 8 years of job creations in several decades.

You didn’t get mad when over 200,000 US Citizens lost their lives because they had no health insurance.

You didn’t get mad when lack of oversight and regulations from the Bush Administration caused US Citizens to lose 12 trillion dollars in investments, retirement, and home values.

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Osama Died, The GOP Cried (boo hoo hoo)
May 1st, 2012
5:42 pm

@The Fresh Prince of Bill Ayers

May 1st, 2012
5:18 pm
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Picking some poppies? As a man thinketh so would he.

Just because yo mama would have been pi$$ing away tax dollars on a family vacation to Mars with her personal chef, bartender,etc. does not mean everyone else would have.

Thanks for the Kindergarten remark. How’s this? My daddy can kick your daddy’s butt and your a poopypants! Does that resonate?

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Tiberius – Banned from Bookman’s and proud of it!

May 1st, 2012
3:54 pm

“An exercising on one’s legal rights can not be abridged.”

HDB, reality says that there are NO absolute rights. Not if your “right” harms another.”

So — you’re saying that the right of self-determination isn’t absolute?? Who has the right to take that from you? As long as I’m not abridging on you, you don’t have the right to tell me how to live….right??

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JKL2

May 1st, 2012
4:51 pm

HDB- “Failure to restore voting rights could have a disproportionate impact on the African American community, as Mr. Santorum noted during the exchange.

We all know that’s BS.”

Here’s more that to show that you’re wrong…….

Between Voting Rights and Voting Wrongs
By MICHAEL WALDMAN

Since the beginning of 2011, lawmakers around the country abruptly enacted laws to curb voting rights and tighten registration rules. These measures are fiercely controversial. But lately the debate has taken a surprising turn. Suppressive voting laws have met resistance at the polls and in the courts. This surprisingly emphatic twist is good for our democracy. If the restriction of voting rights can be blocked or blunted, it will give us an opportunity to move forward with bipartisan reforms to our ramshackle registration system.

Consider the recent backlash.

In Maine, voters reversed a new law, passed in June 2011, that ended same-day registration. Now voters will be able to register on Election Day in 2012.

In Ohio, more than 300,000 citizens signed petitions, enough to temporarily suspend the state’s new law that curbed early voting and force a statewide referendum in November. Now nervous Republicans are close to a deal with Democrats that would repeal the law and restore early voting for the three days before the election.

Florida, meanwhile, imposed onerous penalties and paperwork burdens on volunteers who sign up voters. Helping your neighbors participate in our democracy is not something we should restrict, which is why the Brennan Center is leading the fight to challenge this law. We represent the League of Women Voters, Rock the Vote, and other civic groups that have shut down registration drives. The league has won similar lawsuits twice before and now awaits a judge’s ruling, which is expected soon.

Even on the contentious issue of requiring government-issued photo identification to vote, the strictest new laws have slammed into legal barriers.

In March a state judge struck down Wisconsin’s new law, which required showing a government-issued photo ID with a current address to vote, on the grounds that it violated the state’s Constitution. In Missouri, a judge blocked a ballot measure to pass a similar law.
Who Votes?

A series about the complexities of voters and voting.

This month, the Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals struck down an Arizona law that required voters to show proof of citizenship when registering.

Other states have run afoul of the federal Voting Rights Act. The Justice Department must “pre-clear” laws in South Carolina and Texas, and has refused to do so. Both states have already admitted that hundreds of thousands of voters lack the necessary documents required by new voter ID laws — and minority voters would be most affected. “Even using the data most favorable to the state, Hispanics disproportionately lack either a driver’s license or a personal identification card,” wrote Thomas Perez, a Justice Department official, in a letter denying pre-clearance.

Conservatives respond by insisting that the Voting Rights Act is itself unconstitutional and that it is no longer necessary. They are challenging the act not only in Texas, but also in Alabama and Florida. They would have a slightly easier time making that argument if these states, and others like South Carolina and Mississippi, did not keep passing laws that made it harder for blacks and other minority groups to vote.

No one is saying that people should be able to vote without proving who they are. But these laws have been devised in a way that leaves out large segments of the electorate. Around one in 10 eligible voters do not have a driver’s license. As courts are beginning to rule, the problem is not requiring identification — it is requiring identification that lots of voters just do not have.

We do not know for sure how these fights will end. Other states are continuing to move forward with suppressive measures. Pennsylvania just enacted a strict new law requiring documents, principally a driver’s license, to vote. Mississippi voters passed a harsh voter ID referendum, and Minnesotans will consider a more restrictive referendum in November. No doubt many eligible citizens will find it far harder to cast ballots this year.

But the push to curb rights, so successful in 2011, has prompted a considerable response in 2012. This brawl will continue all the way to November. After all, it is wrong to push through partisan laws that hit minorities, young people and the elderly the hardest, especially in the middle of an election season. After two centuries in which we have (mostly) expanded the right to vote, now is hardly the time to start marching backward.

http://campaignstops.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/05/01/between-voting-rights-and-voting-wrongs/?hp

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@The Fresh Prince of Bill Ayers

May 1st, 2012
5:51 pm
That’s if you even know who your daddy is.

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At least my daddy AINT my mother’s BROTHER.

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Tiberius – Banned from Bookman’s and proud of it!
May 1st, 2012
5:06 pm

redneckbluedog, get two things straight.

First, you’re a religious bigot.

Two, you’re getting Romney. Deal with it, or don’t. There will be no brokered convention, no change in nominee. No knight in shining, Christian armor to save you from yourself.

Those are the facts, and they are not in dispute.
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LIBERALS….!!!!! Republicans have turned into LIBERALS….!!!!! A bunch of lily-livered, panty-waisted, Yankee-lovin’, Mormon LIBERALS……!!!!!!!……..:-)…….

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HDB

I hate to burst your bubble but voter integrity is not the same as curbing voter rights. Every legal citizen of sound mind in the USA has the right to vote, no exception. No one is trying to change that, no matter how much you claim they are. Yes, you have to register. That is onerous I’m sure, just like opening your wallet and pulling out your ID.

All they are asking is that you “prove that you are who you say you are and that you are a legal registered voter”. If the registration process, getting to the polls, and providing an ID is too onerous, then you probably should just refrain from voting. We need voters that have some interest and drive to get their guy elected. Those that don’t have enough energy to walk through the hoops probably should just stay home on the couch.

If you are so worried about “disenfranchisement”, speak to the Democrats, who try to disenfranchise the military votes every election. Their votes should count three to one over ours and just because they arrive to the state capital one day late, we shouldn’t disenfranchise those guys/gals who are serving overseas and go through so much just to cast a ballot.

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“You didn’t get mad when the Supreme Court stopped a legal recount and appointed a President.”

Fact: The Supreme Court applied EQUAL protection under the law. They said that recounts in SELECT counties could not continue unless ALL counties were included under the SAME standard. Sorry to burst your bubble with reality again.

“You didn’t get mad when Cheney allowed Energy company officials to dictate Energy policy and push us to invade Iraq.”

No problem with energy policy. Not sure you could provide any proof of the Iraq thing.

“You didn’t get mad when we illegally invaded a country that posed no threat to us.”

Yes, actually I did. And still am.

“You didn’t get mad when we spent over 800 billion (and counting) on said illegal war.”

Wrong again, Trashman.

“You didn’t get mad when Bush borrowed more money from foreign sources than the previous 42 Presidents combined.”

Continuing the wrong streak . . .

“You didn’t get mad when over 10 billion dollars in cash just disappeared in Iraq.”

I thought that was due to us shipping Democrat administrators from the U.S. over there.

“You didn’t get mad when Bush embraced trade and outsourcing policies that shipped 6 million American jobs out of the country.”

Bush supported unions? I did not know that.

“You didn’t get mad when they didn’t catch Bin Laden.”

Nope. Nor did I rejoice when we got him. Not a big deal for me.

“You didn’t get mad when Bush rang up 10 trillion dollars in combined budget and current account deficits.”

And yet he didn’t. But I did get mad about his spending.

“You didn’t get mad when you saw the horrible conditions at Walter Reed.”

Yeah, I did.

“You didn’t get mad when we let a major US city, New Orleans, drown.”

Funny, but I recall a systematic failure of the local and state authorities which allowed the city to drown. Add to that the complete irresponsibility of the residents to show one iota of common sense and personal responsibility.

“You didn’t get mad when we gave people who had more money than they could spend, the 1%, over a trillion dollars in tax breaks.”

We gave them their money. Got it. No problem with that, as it was their money to begin with.

“You didn’t get mad with the worst 8 years of job creations in several decades.”

Wrong again. The difference is I knew who was actually responsible.

“You didn’t get mad when over 200,000 US Citizens lost their lives because they had no health insurance.”

No, but I did get mad when morons like you and Alan Grayson lied about that figure and inflated it to about 3 times it’s size.

“You didn’t get mad when lack of oversight and regulations from the Bush Administration caused US Citizens to lose 12 trillion dollars in investments, retirement, and home values.”

No, because that wasn’t the cause. Pretty pathetic even for you, Trashman.

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How do you distort words on video? Any straw, aye Kyle?

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Here’s the thing, Trashman. You know and I know that Osama Bin Laden didn’t have the brainpower to light a 40 watt bulb. He always was the financial arm of AQ.

You also know his influence was waning, as was his effectiveness to accomplish anything while constantly on the run. The bigger accomplishment for this administration has been the eradication of about 50 leaders of AQ and the Taliban, not killing a weak old man whose best days were far behind him. I’d have no problem with the Liar-in-Chief bragging on that, because it has been his strategy, rather than simply following the previous strategies of Bush.

The reality is that his value as a target was dropping, so big deal. We got him. I haven’t slept any better or worse since that day. Maybe some of the victims families have. Who knows.

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@Tiberius – Banned from Bookman’s and proud of it!

May 1st, 2012
7:06 pm

You didn’t get mad when they didn’t catch Bin Laden.”

“Nope. Nor did I rejoice when we got him. Not a big deal for me.”

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Tell that to the 3,000 people WHO DIED ON 9/11.

YOU need to be BANNED from this EARTH and sent straight to H*ll.

POOF!

BE GONE

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@Tiberius – Banned from Bookman’s and proud of it!

May 1st, 2012
7:29 pm
You didn’t get mad when they didn’t catch Bin Laden.

“Nope. Nor did I rejoice when we got him. Not a big deal for me.”
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CORRECTION

Tell that to the 3,000 people WHO DIED ON 9/11.

YOU SAID IT……..YOU OWN IT.

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I assume as a good little conservative capitalist you would pay higher insurance premiums so that the executives and shareholders profit.
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You do realize health insurance is (or was) a business, not a charity, right? And that if I have some mental defect which causes me to hate people who earn a profit, I don’t (or didn’t) have to purchase their product, right?

Of course, all that changes if Obozocare isn’t overturned or reversed. Thanks for the fascism, Democrats.

Do you work at being economically ignorant, or does it come naturally?

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@Lil’ Barry Bailout (Revised Downward)

May 1st, 2012
8:37 pm
I assume as a good little conservative capitalist you would pay higher insurance premiums so that the executives and shareholders profit.
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You do realize health insurance is (or was) a business, not a charity, right? And that if I have some mental defect which causes me to hate people who earn a profit, I don’t (or didn’t) have to purchase their product, right?

Of course, all that changes if Obozocare isn’t overturned or reversed. Thanks for the fascism, Democrats.

Do you work at being economically ignorant, or does it come naturally?

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LIL BIDDY BARRY HATE OBAMA.

BOO HOO HOO.

You don’t like OBAMA?

TOUGH!

HE wasn’t put here to please you.

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