2012 Tuesday: Team Obama moves ‘Forward’ by dredging up, distorting Romney’s words from 2007

On Monday, the Obama-Biden 2012 campaign unveiled its slogan: “Forward.”

Yep, that’s it. As Washington Post humor-blogger Alexandra Petri observed, “If your slogan is just one or two notches above BCC, it might not be a great slogan.”

But never mind the lack of zip to the latest and greatest in Democratic bumper-sticker philosophy, or the fact that it won’t help the arguments that President Obama isn’t a Marxist. The most disqualifying thing about “Forward” as a slogan is that this is a president who keeps looking backward. Heck, even the video unveiling “Forward” as a slogan began with a retrospective on the 2008 financial crisis; the very first words of the video titled “Forward” are “January 2008.” I’m not sure that word means what the Obama team thinks it does.

In other forward-looking news, Democrats are using today’s anniversary of the Navy SEALs’ killing of Osama bin Laden last year to revisit some comments Mitt Romney made five years ago. (Forward! Forward!)

According to this new narrative about old words, in August 2007 Romney “ruled out” a mission for U.S. troops to enter Pakistan and kill bin Laden. Never mind that Hillary Clinton, who ultimately sat in the room with Obama as the raid was carried out, and John McCain, whom Democrats derided as a trigger-happy cowboy (”Bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb Iran”), both voiced misgivings about the public pledge Obama made then to strike within Pakistan, with or without the Pakistani government’s approval.

As it happens, two days after making the remarks Democrats are now highlighting, Romney was asked during a GOP debate in Iowa to explain what he meant. Here’s how he answered (the relevant question is asked at the 3:10 mark and Romney, after waiting for Rudy Giuliani to answer, begins speaking around the 4:50 mark):

In case you didn’t watch, here’s the gist of what Romney said:

It’s wrong for a person running for the president of the United States to get on TV and say we’re going to go into your country unilaterally. Of course America always maintains our option to do whatever we think is in the best interest of America. But we don’t go out and say, “Ladies and gentleman of Germany, if ever there was a problem in your country [and] we didn’t think you were doing the right thing, we reserve the right to come in and get them out.” We don’t say those things, we keep our options quiet.

We do not go out and say to a nation which is working with us, where we’ve collaborated, and they are our friend, and we’re trying to support Musharraf and strengthen him and his nation, that instead that we intend to go in there and potentially bring out a unilateral attack.

Now, whatever one thought of Pervez Musharraf’s government in 2007, it is nigh-impossible to argue that Romney’s warning against undermining potential allies by talking publicly about carrying out attacks on their soil is the same thing as saying “he wouldn’t do such a thing.”

As I wrote last year, Obama deserves credit for ordering the raid and seeing that the team conducting it had the necessary support and resources. But he has officially strayed from “not spiking the ball” — at the very least, he’s moved on to “the other guy wouldn’t have had a ball to spike.”

Forward!

Riiiight.

(H/t: Hot Air)

– By Kyle Wingfield

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Road Scholar

May 1st, 2012
2:46 pm

Ti: “That some of those ideas came from individuals who called themselves Republican, does not make them Republican ideas. Cherry-picking…”

Now that is cherry pickin” since you don’t agree with what was proposed by REPUBLICANS!!!!!

Ayn Rand was right

May 1st, 2012
2:49 pm

Finn…did you see the body? Just askin.

Tiberius - Banned from Bookman's and proud of it!

May 1st, 2012
2:52 pm

“Where in the United States Constitution does it say that Corporations are people and are entitled to the same rights as you and I?”

Nowhere. Nor does it specifically restrict the definition of rights to individuals alone. What’s your point?

“You really do need to start thinking for yourself.”

I’m one of the few people on this forum who actually thinks ONLY for myself, son. I don’t give a crap about the rest of you, as long as you don’t try to take my life, liberty or property through the use of force or fraud.

“And are you not concerned with foreign controlled corporations influencing our elections?”

No, because I have the ability to listen to what is said, independently research it to determine whether it is bulls#it, and formulate an opinion on my own.

“Our Constitution was set up to protect We People from the abuses of government, it does not mention whatsoever the rights of corporations.”

It actually doesn’t limit them, either.

“When was the last time a corporation took up arms to fight for our rights of freedom?”

Never. Your point?

“When was the last time a corporation to a bullet for a fellow soldier?”

Never. Your point? If that’s your only criteria for gaining rights, most of the people in the United States would not have any, Romney=Obama.

HDB

May 1st, 2012
2:57 pm

Tiberius – Banned from Bookman’s and proud of it!

May 1st, 2012
2:37 pm

Having accepted you challenge:
1) Romney is anti-labor and is against collective bargaining!

Romney Supports Ohio Collective Bargaining Initiative ‘110 Percent’
“I fully support Governor’s Kasich’s…question 2 in Ohio,” Romney said today in Fairfax, a suburb just outside of Washington, D.C. “Actually, I think, on my website, I think back as early as April, I laid out that I support question 2 and Governor Kasich’s effort to restrict collective bargaining in Ohio in the ways its described.”
http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/romney-supports-ohio-collective-bargaining-initiative-110-percent_604041.html

More later…..

Taipei Personality

May 1st, 2012
2:57 pm

Any libs willing to come out and say Al Queda is no longer a threat? Absolute kudos then and now to President Obama for getting OBL, but he’s just one terrorist. There are many more in that extremist Muslim terrorist network still out there, and they still hate us with a passion. Patting ourselves on the back too much is just asking for them to prove they’re still capable of unleashing more evil.

Actually, if there’s one area I think both Obama and Romney are similar, it would be the War on Terror. Political posturing aside, neither one will relent in the mission to root out and destroy terrorist cells, indirectly of course, but through giving C-of-C approval of such missions. Unfortunately, there aren’t many other successes for the President, so look for him to continue to spin this up as much as possible. And watch the terrorists carefully, I fear they are watching closely too.

Rafe Hollister

May 1st, 2012
2:58 pm

R>0

I have read much of your drivel about why you do not support Mitt. I suspect that no matter who the GOP nominated, you would find fault with. Santorum is a big government conservative. He loves to spend tax payer money to fund his idea of “conservative initiatives”, much in the mode of one GWB. He supported Arlen Spector over Pat Toomey, a true conservative, before ole Arlen sold out his party. I think you were just looking for a reason to pitch a pity party.

Tiberius is right about the SCOTUS. Anyone who would help Oblamer get reelected is sacrificing the future of this country for our children and grandchildren.

Someone above said you can’t trust either candidate’s words, but watch what they do. He is right, we have seen what Barry Oblamer has done, let us see what Mitt can do. What either of them say, take with a large grain of salt.

Romney = Obama

May 1st, 2012
2:58 pm

@Tiberius – You cannot be serious with your responses. Am I the only Republican/Conservatie who thinks that Citizens United was a bad decision?! Have the inmates completely take over our party?!

Tiberius - Banned from Bookman's and proud of it!

May 1st, 2012
2:59 pm

“Now that is cherry pickin” since you don’t agree with what was proposed by REPUBLICANS!!!!!”

Road, you really need a lesson in the English language.

Republican(s) plural, is used to denote a group action, as in Republicans put forth a bill or policy at the party level. No such ideas that you claim to be “Republican” ideas ever were agreed upon by the Republican party, or a majority of Republican legislators in bringing forth legislation.

THEREFORE your use of the term “Republican ideas” are not ideas supported by the party or a majority of elected Republican officials, but are merely ideas that specific people who called themselves Republicans ascribed to. Ergo, your argument that “Republican ideas” are in the legislation known as Obamacare is without factual basis.

HDB

May 1st, 2012
3:00 pm

Tib….here’s number 2: Romney supports disenfranchisement

Mitt Romney’s unjust position on voting rights

“Failure to restore voting rights could have a disproportionate impact on the African American community, as Mr. Santorum noted during the exchange. ”

http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/mitt-romneys-unjust-position-on-voting-rights/2012/01/17/gIQApzO8BQ_story.html

Rafe Hollister

May 1st, 2012
3:02 pm

Having accepted you challenge:
1) Romney is anti-labor and is against collective bargaining!
HDB
Romney Supports Ohio Collective Bargaining Initiative ‘110 Percent’
“I fully support Governor’s Kasich’s…question 2 in Ohio,” Romney said today in Fairfax, a suburb just outside of Washington, D.C. “Actually, I think, on my website, I think back as early as April, I laid out that I support question 2 and Governor Kasich’s effort to restrict collective bargaining in Ohio in the ways its described.”

Considering that Romney and Kasich are speaking of public sector unions, is there something wrong with this stance?

I Report (-: You Whine )-: mmm, mmmm, mmmmm! Just sayin...

May 1st, 2012
3:02 pm

Thank you all very much. Admiral Kelly, Captain Card, officers and sailors of the USS Abraham Lincoln, my fellow Americans: Major combat operations in Iraq have ended. In the battle of Iraq, the United States and our allies have prevailed. (Applause.) And now our coalition is engaged in securing and reconstructing that country.

In this battle, we have fought for the cause of liberty, and for the peace of the world. Our nation and our coalition are proud of this accomplishment — yet, it is you, the members of the United States military, who achieved it. Your courage, your willingness to face danger for your country and for each other, made this day possible. Because of you, our nation is more secure. Because of you, the tyrant has fallen, and Iraq is free.

Damn, Bush forgot to include a bunch of I’s and me’s.

Tiberius - Banned from Bookman's and proud of it!

May 1st, 2012
3:02 pm

“You cannot be serious with your responses.”

Not only serious, but on firm Constitutional grounds as envisioned by the Founding Fathers.

“Am I the only Republican/Conservatie who thinks that Citizens United was a bad decision?!”

I don’t know, as I have not bothered to speak to every Republican.

“Have the inmates completely take over our party?!”

In many ways, your party (not mine) has been taken over by the inmates. They are usually known as the religious right, but go by other names as well.

Rafe Hollister

May 1st, 2012
3:03 pm

HDB

How is Romney for disenfranchisement? I think he just wants to eliminate voter fraud.

Intown

May 1st, 2012
3:04 pm

Kyle: highlighting an explanation of a gaffe two days after it came out of Romney’s mouth is like closing the barn door after the horse escapes. Too late, my man. Romney has said alot of inconsistent stuff and will be very vulnerable to Daily Show style attacks from now to November.

Ayn Rand was right

May 1st, 2012
3:06 pm

I Report…wish I could “like” your comment!

HDB

May 1st, 2012
3:06 pm

Tib…here’s 3….Romney discriminates against women’s equal pay…just like Scott Walker in Wisconsin….

Does Mitt Romney Support Equal Pay for Women?

Apparently, the upcoming recall election is not enough controversy for Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker. Last Thursday he decided to step it up a notch by also repealing the 2009 Equal Pay Enforcement Act in Wisconsin.

And since Mitt Romney has recently expressed his support for Walker—at a GOP dinner in Pewaukee, Romney called Walker a “hero”—the conversation on equal pay has shifted from the governor to the presidential candidate. Immediately following the repeal, President Barack Obama’s campaign spokeswoman Lis Smith emphasized Walker and Romney’s friendship and pointedly asked: “Does Romney think women should have the ability to take their bosses to court to get the same pay as their male coworkers? Or does he stand with Governor Walker against this?”

http://www.slate.com/blogs/xx_factor/2012/04/11/mitt_romney_and_lilly_ledbetter_equal_pay_act_we_ll_have_to_get_back_to_you_on_that_.html

Pay No Attention To the Man On the Record - The Flip Flop King

May 1st, 2012
3:07 pm

PRESIDENT OBAMA MAKES TRIP TO AFGHANISTAN

Tiberius - Banned from Bookman's and proud of it!

May 1st, 2012
3:07 pm

“Well, that mission wasn’t accomplished.”

Technically, since he was referring to the end of combat operations against the Iraqi army, and the successful completion of that aircraft carrier’s mission, it actually was.

But don’t let a good whine get destroyed by the facts, Finn.

Rafe Hollister

May 1st, 2012
3:08 pm

R>0

As the SC pointed out, a citizen does not lose his/her right to free speech just because he works for a corporation. If being a member of a corporation eliminates your right to free speech, then belonging to a union should also limit your free speech.

As explained above, I am not sure you are a Rep/Conservative. Anyone who would knowingly help Barry Oblamer get reelected should not be able to claim membership in either.

@@

May 1st, 2012
3:08 pm

Am I the only Republican/Conservatie who thinks that Citizens United was a bad decision?!

If the choices are Citizens United or the MSM, I’ll go with Citizens United.

Even the ombudsman at the NYT has admitted his paper was in the tank for Obama.

Jay

May 1st, 2012
3:09 pm

Actually, I think Crier posted that here accidentally; it was meant for Kyle’s blog, I believe.

Real American

May 1st, 2012
3:10 pm

The writers for Jon Stewart and Stephen Colbert have been reduced to playing words with friends all day because there is simply too much material coming from Mittens.

Jefferson

May 1st, 2012
3:10 pm

President Clinton said he would help out.

Romney = Obama

May 1st, 2012
3:10 pm

@Tiberious – Our Founding Fathers did not leave Europe to escape the tyranny of corporations. The ORIGINAL INTENT of the Founding Fathers when drafting the US Constitution was not to empower or protect corporations, but to protect the citizens from the power of government. Why is that such a hard concept for you to grasp?

@Rafe – What in Romney’s backgroud points to say that he is a Conservative? ANSWER: Absolutely nothing.

Pay No Attention To the Man On the Record - The Flip Flop King

May 1st, 2012
3:11 pm

PRESIDENT OBAMA MAKES SURPRISE TRIP TO AFGHANISTAN

TRUMP THAT MITT WITT :)

Ya’ll can’t touch this President.

He is TWO STEPS AHEAD OF ALL OF YOU HATERS. :)

newton

May 1st, 2012
3:14 pm

tiberius is caught in a netherwolrd betwixt bookmanville and wingfieldlandia.

Rafe Hollister

May 1st, 2012
3:15 pm

Trashman

He is not two steps ahead of GSA, Solyndra, Fast and Furious, the Secret Service, and most importantly the American people.

HDB

May 1st, 2012
3:18 pm

Rafe Hollister

May 1st, 2012
3:03 pm

1) Voter fraud is a myth created by the GOP to disenfranchise minority voters.

“It has been a record year for new legislation designed to make it harder for Democrats to vote — 19 laws and two executive actions in 14 states dominated by Republicans, according to a new study by the Brennan Center for Justice. As a result, more than five million eligible voters will have a harder time participating in the 2012 election. Of course the Republicans passing these laws never acknowledge their real purpose, which is to turn away from the polls people who are more likely to vote Democratic, particularly the young, the poor, the elderly and minorities. They insist that laws requiring government identification cards to vote are only to protect the sanctity of the ballot from unscrupulous voters. Cutting back on early voting, which has been popular among working people who often cannot afford to take off from their jobs on Election Day, will save money, they claim.

None of these explanations are true. There is almost no voting fraud in America. And none of the lawmakers who claim there is have ever been able to document any but the most isolated cases. The only reason Republicans are passing these laws is to give themselves a political edge by suppressing Democratic votes.”

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/10/10/opinion/the-myth-of-voter-fraud.html

2) New voter-ID laws can serve as a POLL TAX…which has been made UNCONSTITUTIONAL!! Note…a 93-year old woman in Tennessee was denied her right to vote although her voter registration was current…and she had to PAY to get a birth certificate in order to obtain the required ID!!

2) Organizations that would be registering voters in Florida have run against a law so draconian that they have stopped registration. That has disenfranchised almost 80,000 people!!

It’s quite obvious how disenfranchisement will work in the general election!

Rafe Hollister

May 1st, 2012
3:18 pm

@Rafe – What in Romney’s backgroud points to say that he is a Conservative?

Well, I think he cut taxes in Taxachusetts about 25X and he balanced the budget every year. I sure wish your boy Barry would take some of that medicine.

Jeff Lea

May 1st, 2012
3:18 pm

I’m a liberal democrat. One of the most ironic outcome of the last two election cycles is that as a liberal democrat I wouldn’t be that worried about the country’s direction if the Republican candidate became president. Especially this time. Romney is a liberal in wolf’s clothing.

WAYNE

May 1st, 2012
3:18 pm

jay and kyle must have crossed jet-streams at the ajc urinal

Romney = Obama

May 1st, 2012
3:20 pm

@Rafe – he cut “taxes” but raised fees on EVERYTHING, which is essentially a tax. How did he scale back the scope of government in Massachussettes? ANSWER: He didn’t! Thanks for playing.

Tiberius - Banned from Bookman's and proud of it!

May 1st, 2012
3:20 pm

Epic fail, HDB. Your first example was the ONLY one that fit my rather loose criteria. You actually named a specific law that Romney has openly supported.

Not so good with your efforts on 2 and 3 however.

For Number 2, there is no such law cited, nor do many people feel that keeping violent felons from getting their voting rights back as being disenfranchisement (a word really overused by you libs and truly diminished as such).

For Number 3, you engage in projection of the highest order. Romney’s support for Walker (and what logical person doesn’t as his reforms are actually paying off for taxpayers) does not equate to his support of any or all specific bills Walker supports.

Really, really pathetic on your part, son.

Romney = Obama

May 1st, 2012
3:21 pm

@Jeff Lea – And many Conservatives see the same thing that the liberals on the Left can see about Romney.

HDB

May 1st, 2012
3:25 pm

Rafe Hollister

May 1st, 2012
3:02 pm

Yes…there’s a problem with that!! Basically, you;re stating that employees do not have the right to unionize and collectively bargain for their constitutional and employment rights!! If you noted the BACKLASH in Ohio, Indiana, and Wisconsin…the persistent degregation of labor by management isn’t in the best interest of anyone!! All this is is a ploy to break unions and to degrade the wages of labor….which can lead into another economic depression…….

Rafe Hollister

May 1st, 2012
3:26 pm

HDB

If you believe that NYT distraction, that is good I guess. I have seen and heard of too many instances of felons, dead folk, and mentally disabled folks voting to think that it does not exist. Unions and political organizations bus in voters, who vote in precincts they are not allowed to vote in. People with two homes vote in person in one state and absentee in the other.

I kinda think my vote in important and if someone not legal to vote, votes opposite of me, they have cancelled me out. That kinda po’s me. The voting requirements the GOP is trying to get passed are not onerous, if they were all that was required to get a free lunch at Popeye’s, the line would extend around I-285. No one would claim that they didn’t have an ID, if a free bucket of chicken was on the line.

Tiberius - Banned from Bookman's and proud of it!

May 1st, 2012
3:27 pm

“Our Founding Fathers did not leave Europe to escape the tyranny of corporations.”

Technically, most of our Founding Fathers didn’t leave Europe at all. Most were born here.

“The ORIGINAL INTENT of the Founding Fathers when drafting the US Constitution was not to empower or protect corporations, but to protect the citizens from the power of government.”

And are corporation not run by and staffed by citizens?

“Why is that such a hard concept for you to grasp?”

It is not. Freedom of speech is very easy to grasp. You have every right to say what you want, so long as it doesn’t maliciously harm another through slander or libel. Your point?

I Report (-: You Whine )-: mmm, mmmm, mmmmm! Just sayin...

May 1st, 2012
3:30 pm

Who’s “Crier” anyway?

Tiberius - Banned from Bookman's and proud of it!

May 1st, 2012
3:31 pm

“Basically, you;re stating that employees do not have the right to unionize and collectively bargain for their constitutional and employment rights!!”

No, we’re saying that those rights are not absolute when they clash with the rights of taxpayers who can no longer afford the deals made at the point of a gun. Your so-called right to organize (and that’s a b@stardization of the right to assemble as anything is) ends when the individual is harmed.

Rafe Hollister

May 1st, 2012
3:31 pm

HDB

There is should be no right for government employees to organize. There is nothing to bargain for as the salary are already set by legislation. No reason to take action against the employer as they already have civil service protection against any abuse.

R>0

Fees are a conservative idea. The user pays, rather than have all taxpayers get stuck with the expense. Name one conservative thing your boy Barry has done?

Taipei Personality

May 1st, 2012
3:32 pm

R = O,
Well, one aspect about Romney that would definitely be a plus is he would not play footsies with the Reid-Pelosi crazy wing of Congress. If I could be guaranteed that both houses would be under GOP control, I wouldn’t worry about a 2nd Obama term. Unfortunately there is no such guarantee. That said, I like the idea of seeing a GOP Congress vs Obama, then have Rubio complete the deal by winning presidency in 2016! The question is – can we afford to take the Obama risk?

HDB

May 1st, 2012
3:33 pm

Tib….from the Washongton Post:

“Many automatically restore a felon’s voting rights upon release; others, like South Carolina, restore voting rights after an inmate successfully completes post-release supervision. Two states — Maine and Vermont — allow felons to vote while incarcerated. Even Virginia — traditionally one of the stingiest states in the country when it comes to restoring felons’ voting rights — has recently moved to reform and quicken the restoration process.”

The laws ARE there, Tib…not a fail!! Romney supports disenfranchisement!!

Tiberius - Banned from Bookman's and proud of it!

May 1st, 2012
3:33 pm

What the CRAP is BOOKMAN doing commenting over here?!?! (Fingers making the sign of the cross and reaching for some Holy Water and a stake as I type this)

Kyle! Cleanup at 3:09!!! Stat!!!!!

Tiberius - Banned from Bookman's and proud of it!

May 1st, 2012
3:41 pm

“he cut “taxes” but raised fees on EVERYTHING, which is essentially a tax.”

As Rafe correctly pointed out, fees go directly towards those who actually USE the services being paid for. What is your problem with that?

“How did he scale back the scope of government in Massachussettes? ANSWER: He didn’t!”

A little education is in order for you, Romney=Obama. Please pay attention. When Mitt Romney was governor of Massachusetts, he was the head of a state whose legislature was made up of a veto-proof majority of rabid, left-wing Democrats and few Republicans. The scale of this majority was astounding; over 90% Democrats in the House and 95% in the Senate. Given that veto-proof majority, just where do you think Romney was going to find votes to reduce the size and scope of government in Massachusetts? That it didn’t GROW exponentially, and that he changed the way people paid for services to a fairer fee-based system is a miracle of leadership most people don’t truly appreciate.

Oh, The Stinch of IRONY

May 1st, 2012
3:44 pm

“even though when it came time for him to stand up and actually be a fiscal conservative when it mattered, he went along to get along.”

You really think Romney will be different, especially if the Republicans do not take the Senate? Even if they take it, they will be subjected to the same amount of filibusters, cloture votes, etc that the Repubs are doing to the Dems in the Senate now……

Both sides play dirty on that issue

Who knows. Romney might govern and be a conservative all around guy…….

Tiberius - Banned from Bookman's and proud of it!

May 1st, 2012
3:44 pm

“PRESIDENT OBAMA MAKES SURPRISE TRIP TO AFGHANISTAN”

Hopefully scoping out retirement properties to enjoy beginning in January of 2013.

Lil' Barry Bailout (Revised Downward)

May 1st, 2012
3:46 pm

Are you saying that our soldiers and Marines aboard that aircraft carrier didn’t accomplish their mission?

Link please.

HDB

May 1st, 2012
3:49 pm

Rafe Hollister

May 1st, 2012
3:31 pm
“HDB

There is should be no right for government employees to organize. There is nothing to bargain for as the salary are already set by legislation. No reason to take action against the employer as they already have civil service protection against any abuse.”

The right, however, DOES exists…and civil service protection isn’t as many think it is!! In at at-will state, many civil service protections are overridden by state law. From what I’ve been seeing, the right of labor is being abridged…..

BTW..there have only been 221 known instances of voter fraud!! I DO take my right to vote seriously…and your vote would probably cancel mine…but I would not change the law to create a problem where one doesn’t exist!!

Tiberius – Banned from Bookman’s and proud of it!

May 1st, 2012
3:31 pm

Those same people you are railing against ARE TAXPAYERS!! Negotiations done in good faith are not done at the end of a gun; labor does have tools to express their feelings….including the right to strike!! An exercising on one’s legal rights can not be abridged.

BTW, Tib…..…Walker’s policies are NOT paying off in Wisconsin! Wisconsin is LEADING the nation in JOB LOSSES!!

Wisconsin job losses highest in nation for last 12 months, federal report says

Wisconsin saw the largest percentage decrease in employment in the nation during the 12 months ending in March, a new report by the U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics said.

During that time period, while 27 states and the District of Columbia saw significant job increases, only Wisconsin saw “statistically significant” job losses, the report said.

From March 2011 to March 2012, the state lost 23,900 jobs, for the country’s largest percentage decrease, at 0.9 percent.

Of the 23,900 jobs lost in Wisconsin in that period, 17,900 were from the public sector and 6,000 were from the private sector, according to the BLS. (Note: Jobs and unemployment rate data in the BLS report for all the states and D.C. refers to non-farm employment.)

Wisconsin also had the third-worst employment losses for March compared to the previous month, with 4,500 fewer jobs than it had in February, the report said. Only Ohio and New Jersey were worse, with 9,500 and 8,600 fewer jobs, respectively.

Read more: http://host.madison.com/wsj/business/wisconsin-job-losses-highest-in-nation-for-last-months-federal/article_955e6c9a-8e4d-11e1-aba4-001a4bcf887a.html#ixzz1teEstN00

Tiberius - Banned from Bookman's and proud of it!

May 1st, 2012
3:49 pm

“You really think Romney will be different, especially if the Republicans do not take the Senate?”

The Senate is up for grabs. I envision a 50-50 split with the VP casting the tie vote right now.

“Even if they take it, they will be subjected to the same amount of filibusters, cloture votes, etc that the Repubs are doing to the Dems in the Senate now……”

Not necessarily. I see a GOP-run Senate treating the filibuster the way it should; budgets and other fiscal matters get through on majority votes only, anything else will take the 60 votes for cloture.

Tiberius - Banned from Bookman's and proud of it!

May 1st, 2012
3:52 pm

“BTW, Tib…..…Walker’s policies are NOT paying off in Wisconsin! ”

HDB, do not ever parse my words to try to make a false point, got it?

I said they were paying off for TAXPAYERS, who have seen their property tax bills drop on average for the first time ever due to the ability to renegotiate bad contracts.