2012 Tuesday: Team Obama moves ‘Forward’ by dredging up, distorting Romney’s words from 2007

On Monday, the Obama-Biden 2012 campaign unveiled its slogan: “Forward.”

Yep, that’s it. As Washington Post humor-blogger Alexandra Petri observed, “If your slogan is just one or two notches above BCC, it might not be a great slogan.”

But never mind the lack of zip to the latest and greatest in Democratic bumper-sticker philosophy, or the fact that it won’t help the arguments that President Obama isn’t a Marxist. The most disqualifying thing about “Forward” as a slogan is that this is a president who keeps looking backward. Heck, even the video unveiling “Forward” as a slogan began with a retrospective on the 2008 financial crisis; the very first words of the video titled “Forward” are “January 2008.” I’m not sure that word means what the Obama team thinks it does.

In other forward-looking news, Democrats are using today’s anniversary of the Navy SEALs’ killing of Osama bin Laden last year to revisit some comments Mitt Romney made five years ago. (Forward! Forward!)

According to this new narrative about old words, in August 2007 Romney “ruled out” a mission for U.S. troops to enter Pakistan and kill bin Laden. Never mind that Hillary Clinton, who ultimately sat in the room with Obama as the raid was carried out, and John McCain, whom Democrats derided as a trigger-happy cowboy (”Bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb Iran”), both voiced misgivings about the public pledge Obama made then to strike within Pakistan, with or without the Pakistani government’s approval.

As it happens, two days after making the remarks Democrats are now highlighting, Romney was asked during a GOP debate in Iowa to explain what he meant. Here’s how he answered (the relevant question is asked at the 3:10 mark and Romney, after waiting for Rudy Giuliani to answer, begins speaking around the 4:50 mark):

In case you didn’t watch, here’s the gist of what Romney said:

It’s wrong for a person running for the president of the United States to get on TV and say we’re going to go into your country unilaterally. Of course America always maintains our option to do whatever we think is in the best interest of America. But we don’t go out and say, “Ladies and gentleman of Germany, if ever there was a problem in your country [and] we didn’t think you were doing the right thing, we reserve the right to come in and get them out.” We don’t say those things, we keep our options quiet.

We do not go out and say to a nation which is working with us, where we’ve collaborated, and they are our friend, and we’re trying to support Musharraf and strengthen him and his nation, that instead that we intend to go in there and potentially bring out a unilateral attack.

Now, whatever one thought of Pervez Musharraf’s government in 2007, it is nigh-impossible to argue that Romney’s warning against undermining potential allies by talking publicly about carrying out attacks on their soil is the same thing as saying “he wouldn’t do such a thing.”

As I wrote last year, Obama deserves credit for ordering the raid and seeing that the team conducting it had the necessary support and resources. But he has officially strayed from “not spiking the ball” — at the very least, he’s moved on to “the other guy wouldn’t have had a ball to spike.”

Forward!

Riiiight.

(H/t: Hot Air)

– By Kyle Wingfield

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May 1st, 2012
6:26 am

Still got your Newt bumper sticker?

Joel Edge

May 1st, 2012
6:29 am

That ball will be spiked repeatedly in the coming months.

Ernest T Bass

May 1st, 2012
6:29 am

Sometimes to know where your going you’ve got to look back at where you’ve been.

Forward!

And as far as spiking the football. Can you imagine if W would have gotten Bin Laden.

Que the Aircraft Carriers and Mission Accomplished banners. Ticker Tape parades all around.

Give me a break.

Ernest T Bass

May 1st, 2012
6:31 am

“I do not concur in the words of Barack Obama in a plan to enter an ally of ours …

Mitt Romney

Ernest T Bass

May 1st, 2012
6:33 am

First Obama cant run on his record because its lousy.

Then when he talks about his record ( bin laden ) he shouldn’t be doing that either.

See a pattern here?

ByteMe

May 1st, 2012
6:42 am

But he has officially strayed from “not spiking the ball” — at the very least, he’s moved on to “the other guy wouldn’t have had a ball to spike.”

And Romney’s showing he’s lousy at defending himself.

The implication is that he’ll be just as lousy defending the country. Own him, Republicans! He’s your Kerry 2004 bumper sticker.

Floyd Lawson

May 1st, 2012
6:50 am

Ernest T. Bass- How dare you sully the good Bass name with your liberal rants. BHO is an ex-president walking. Good americans are soooo tired of his divisive actions and words. Baraccck loses in an absolute landslide. All the Red states go Romney plus NC, FL, Ohio, Colorado, etc… go republican. It is gonna be great. Is anyone, liberals included, better off with BHO as president. Only gov’t workers and union memebers and welfare takers will vote for Barack. Gomma be good watching it all crumble on election night. Morning shows on MSNBC, Abc, NBC are will be hillarious on Nov 7th

@@

May 1st, 2012
6:50 am

Lies by O…mission.

Desperation brings out the worst in a person.

Forward!!??!! That’s it!!??!!

On to being a ward of the state. Perhaps “Onward” would better fit “the empty suit.”

SCHNIRT!!!

@@

May 1st, 2012
6:56 am

Let me preface this by saying…I voted for Bill Clinton but he DID refuse to take out Bin Laden on three separate occasions. Should’ve used someone else to sing Obama’s praises.

DeborahinAthens

May 1st, 2012
7:02 am

I think President Obama’s record is amazing. I have been a Republian most of my life (first pres I voted for was Nixon) but couldn’t vote for McCain after he put the Bimbette on the ticket. I also saw the way he was behaving during the economic crisis. He could not make a decision. President Obama made many very tough decisions that have brought us through that horrible time to a better economy. If McCain were President, we wold have 15% unemployment, massive business failures. The banking system would be totally dysfunctional. He got a flawed health care bill through. It doesn’t resemble his original plan because the Republicans can’t possibly let him be successful so Congress ripped the original plan apart and stitched a Frankenstein plan back together. But, by God, he got it done. This is something that has plagued this country for decades and politicians have given it short shrift because most politicians have no guts. Obama got the process started. Make fun, Kyle, how can you not look back if you have to run on your record? Ernest T. Bass is right, if Dubya the Dumb (the first time ever I did not vote Republican) was running we would gag over the ads showing bin Laden dead body being stomped on by the Seals. When will you idiots concede that Obama is smart, hard working, has accomplished more in three years than Bush did in eight years–and racking up two unfunded wars and Medicare Part D, which is his payback to the Pharma industry doesn’t count?

Jack

May 1st, 2012
7:02 am

When I think about bin Laden, I always wonder why they dumped him in the ocean before his carcass was examined by U.S. authorities. Or maybe they did, but there was very little news about what happened between his being shot and dumped in the water.

ByteMe

May 1st, 2012
7:12 am

Or maybe they did, but there was very little news about what happened between his being shot and dumped in the water.

The specifics I’ve seen in the news:

1. They killed him.
2. Took him to an aircraft carrier and used known copies of his DNA and other technology to positively identify him.
3. Took pictures to prove it was him.
4. Buried him at sea to prevent a burial shrine from ever being built to him.

They have no intention of releasing the photos to the public for a lonnnng time.

ByteMe

May 1st, 2012
7:16 am

I wonder when Romney is going to nominate a VP that will — in the future — cheat on his wife and father a child by her, then deny it, pay her off, get a campaign aide to claim it was his…

Ok, history doesn’t repeat THAT much. :)

ByteMe

May 1st, 2012
7:20 am

From the President’s press conference question related to this:

As far as my personal role and what other folks would do, I’d just recommend that everybody take a look at people’s previous statements in terms of whether they thought it was appropriate to go into Pakistan and take out bin Laden.I assume that people meant what they said when they said it. That’s been at least my practice.

I said that I’d go after bin Laden if we had a clear shot at him, and I did. If there are others who have said one thing and now suggest they’d do something else, then I’d go ahead and let them explain it.

Double Ziiiing…..

Must suck, Kyle, to have to back a candidate that you know is terrible just because enough other Republicans decided it was “his turn”.

JDW

May 1st, 2012
7:21 am

Forward…I think it provides a nice contrast the the offical Republican position of Backwards…

-BACK to the Good Ole Days
-Take BACK our country (as if it ever left)
-Roll BACK women’s rights
-Turn BACK legislation on finance reform
etc…

It’s a very apt contrast.

Progressive Humanist

May 1st, 2012
7:22 am

Romney never would have had the gonads to kill Bin Laden. But he sure wanted GM dead.

Luckily for this nation, Bin Laden is dead and GM is is chugging along.

And let us not forget that the worst terrorist attack ever happened on Bush’s watch, as did the worst recession since the great depression.

Republicans: weak on terror and terrible with the economy.

Progressive Humanist

May 1st, 2012
7:25 am

Vote Romney: Back to the Future (2001)

Lil' Barry Bailout (Revised Downward)

May 1st, 2012
7:28 am

“Forward!”–the battle cry of the international Communist movement.

Heckuva job selecting a slogan, Obozo. Right up there with your short-lived “Winning the Future” (WTF) moment.

curious

May 1st, 2012
7:30 am

Floyd,

Is Romney better off now than in 2008?

ByteMe

May 1st, 2012
7:30 am

“Forward!”–the battle cry of the international Communist movement.

Lil’ Barry sees communists under his bed.

BOO!!

Lil' Barry Bailout (Revised Downward)

May 1st, 2012
7:34 am

New Obama slogan has long ties to Marxism, socialism

Victor Morton Published on April 30, 2012

The Obama campaign apparently didn’t look backwards into history when selecting its new campaign slogan, “Forward” — a word with a long and rich association with European Marxism.

Many Communist and radical publications and entities throughout the 19th and 20th centuries had the name “Forward!” or its foreign cognates. Wikipedia has an entire section called “Forward (generic name of socialist publications).”
———

Oopsies!

JDW

May 1st, 2012
7:36 am

@LBB…”Cry of international Communist movement”

Joe McCarthy would be proud of you.

Lil' Barry Bailout (Revised Downward)

May 1st, 2012
7:40 am

Boo hop, JDW, solo sorry for you embarrassment. Maybe your Messiah’s next try at a slogan won’t be so unintentionally revealing.

Obozo: Dedicated Marxist.

ByteMe

May 1st, 2012
7:47 am

Obozo: Dedicated Marxist.

Lil’ Barry thinks we actually care about someone yelling “communists!” in a crowded theater.

BOO!!

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA :lol:

Lil' Barry Bailout (Revised Downward)

May 1st, 2012
8:00 am

Tick…tick…tick…

I Report (-: You Whine )-: mmm, mmmm, mmmmm! Just sayin...

May 1st, 2012
8:08 am

My guess is that the Teleprompter forgot how to spell the words “Great” and “Leap-”

The Great Leap Forward was a push by Mao Zedong to change China from a predominantly agrarian (farming) society to a modern, industrial society in just five years.

Between 1958 and 1960, millions of Chinese citizens were moved onto communes. All work was shared on the communes; from childcare to cooking, daily tasks were collectivized.

They’ve already got many of the peasants they need, i.e. dummycrats.

@@

May 1st, 2012
8:11 am

Can you hear me Wingfield?

Text is audible?

I’m thinkin’ this TURD guy/gal is lusting after Obama’s private bits.

Private Obama?

schnirt

JKL2

May 1st, 2012
8:12 am

Deborah- He got a flawed health care bill through. It doesn’t resemble his original plan because the Republicans can’t possibly let him be successful so Congress ripped the original plan apart and stitched a Frankenstein plan back together

ROFL! The Republicans had nothing to do with that disaster the Democrats forced thru. It’s so bad, they had to bribe their own people to pass it. I guess they should have read it first.

Lil' Barry Bailout (Revised Downward)

May 1st, 2012
8:23 am

Yeah, I still don’t get why Democrats try so hard to blame Republicans for Obozocare.

Shouldn’t they be embracing it and using it as a club against the GOP?

Instead, they look like they’re running from it.

Forward!

Progressive Humanist

May 1st, 2012
8:24 am

It’s hilarious that Romney tried to slam Jimmy Carter yesterday. Carter approved an assault on Iran during the hostage crisis. It failed, but Romney never would have had the b@lls to do such a thing. He wouldn’t have even tried. But it’s a moot point because Romney won’t ever get to make those decisions anyway. By now Americans understand that Republicans are weak on terrorism and terrible on the economy.

Kyle Wingfield

May 1st, 2012
8:26 am

All: The “TURD” in our digital punch bowl has been flushed.

Tiberius - Banned from Bookman's and proud of it!

May 1st, 2012
8:27 am

Not a bad column, Kyle, but here is proof-positive that the current Disaster-in-Chief lied to the American people in his recent campaign ad by taking a snippet of a larger response from Mitt Romney and using it to create the false impression that Romney wouldn’t have made the same decision Obama made.

Here’s the full quote:

LIZ SIDOTI: “Why haven’t we caught bin Laden in your opinion?”

GOVERNOR MITT ROMNEY: “I think, I wouldn’t want to over-concentrate on Bin Laden. He’s one of many, many people who are involved in this global Jihadist effort. He’s by no means the only leader. It’s a very diverse group – Hamas, Hezbollah, al-Qaeda, Muslim Brotherhood and of course different names throughout the world.”

(The snippet used by the lying President Obama) “It’s not worth moving heaven and earth and spending billions of dollars just trying to catch one person.”

(The rest of Romney’s remarks) “It is worth fashioning and executing an effective strategy to defeat global, violent Jihad and I have a plan for doing that.”

Source: http://ace.mu.nu/archives/328802.php

And what a surprise that AP was distorting the true meaning of Romney’s remarks. Following that interview, Romney was asked to clarify his position during a debate:

Romney: “Thank you. Of course we get Osama bin Laden and track him wherever he has to go, and make sure he pays for the outrage he exacted upon America.”

Moderator: “Can we move heaven and earth to do it?”

Romney: “We’ll move everything to get him. But I don’t want to buy into the Democratic pitch that this is all about one person — Osama bin Laden — because after we get him, there’s going to be another and another. This is about Shia and Sunni. This is about Hezbollah and Hamas and Al Qaida and the Muslim Brotherhood. This is a worldwide jihadist effort to try and cause the collapse of all moderate Islamic governments and replace them with a caliphate. They ultimately want to bring down the United States of America. This is a global effort we’re going to have to lead to overcome this jihadist effort. It’s more than Osama bin Laden. But he is going to pay, and he will die.”

No question as to what Mitt Romney would have done, now is there? Once you READ THE ENTIRETY of his position instead of relying on the bumper-sticker replies you get from Obama.

This President has NO HONOR whatsoever. A better man would never have “spiked the ball” (especially after saying he wouldn’t), nor would he do it using a lie to score cheap political points.

The current Disaster-in-Chief has been replaced by the Liar-in-Chief. The small, petty Chicago hood has come out to campaign.

JDW

May 1st, 2012
8:28 am

@LBB…”embarrassment”?

You don’t embarrass me LBB, yourself yes…me no. You remind me of the Court Jester aka Village Idiot…someone to laugh at and poke at every once in a while to laugh some more.

The Fresh Prince of Bill Ayers

May 1st, 2012
8:30 am

ByteMe

May 1st, 2012
7:16 am
I wonder when Romney is going to nominate a VP that will — in the future — cheat on his wife and father a child by her, then deny it, pay her off, get a campaign aide to claim it was his…

John Edwards probably wont be available, and Bill Clinton is not interested. Neither is Jesse Jackson.

the red herring

May 1st, 2012
8:31 am

some of the less articulate words and phrases should not be allowed in this column. obama has hurt the economy more than he has helped—he took a bad situation and made it much worse. over 5 trillion in national debt added under a president who promised to cut the national debt in half in his first term. the man is a habitual liar and is as poor a president as carter was. the navy seals killed osama and GM was bailed out by the taxpayer who is still about 20+ billion in debt for it. sad that those two issues are all obama/biden can run on. they don’t have anything else.

Thomas Heyward jr

May 1st, 2012
8:34 am

Former deputy national intelligence officer for transnational threats, a 23-year senior CIA analyst, who “drafted or was involved in many of the government’s most senior assessments of the threats facing our country [and who] devoted years to understanding and combating the jihadist threat”, writes today in the Washington Post that the neocons have whipped us into an irrational fear of the terrorism. In reality, “Osama bin Laden and his disciples are small men and secondary threats whose shadows are made large by our fears” and our leaders.

This is no surprise to anyone who has been paying attention. The BBC produced a documentary called The Power of Nightmares in 2005 that showed that politicians were greatly exaggerating the terrorist threat for political ends.
.
Whatever works for the shallow intellect of Romney/Obama supporters.
.
There are so many lies, its just a matter of whose propaganda you choose to believe.

The smart people…(Ron Paul supporters) ….choose not to choose.

Lil' Barry Bailout (Revised Downward)

May 1st, 2012
8:34 am

JDW: You don’t embarrass me LBB, yourself yes…me no.
——-

You’re projecting again, JDW.

Come on, tell us what a great slogan Dear Leader has provided you!

Tiberius - Banned from Bookman's and proud of it!

May 1st, 2012
8:35 am

“By now Americans understand that Republicans are weak on terrorism and terrible on the economy.”

Which, of course, is why the national polls are all pointing to a landslide victory for Obama in 2012 – oops! – not really, are they?

Reality, Progressive Humanist. Try a small dose of it sometime. You do not represent, nor understand, even a small portion of Americans living in your liberal bubble.

jconservative

May 1st, 2012
8:37 am

“Team Obama moves ‘Forward’ by dredging up, distorting Romney’s words from 2007″

You don’t mean it! You mean a politician actually misstated the words of his opponent? To gain a political advantage?

What in the world is going on?

Ayn Rand was right

May 1st, 2012
8:38 am

It amazes me how many “seers” we have on this blog. If Obama had not been elected then…; if Romney had been in charge then…BACKWARD

The problem with you people, is that you love the rhetoric more than you love America. If you start paying attention to what is really happening, not your biased perspective on what is happening, this country may actually change for the better. WITH BLINDERS

No politician is a God. Everything they do requires many hands to execute. They are paid only if elected. Do you think that anyone is going to interfere with their ability to earn for the cause of the common good. NO, they’re not, they do for others, so others will do for them.

Thomas Heyward jr

May 1st, 2012
8:39 am

OBL was a piker compared to what Obama Hussein Debt Laden………..or…….ORomney Squid MoHarvard will do to you..and your children’s wealth and liberty.

Tiberius - Banned from Bookman's and proud of it!

May 1st, 2012
8:42 am

“In reality, “Osama bin Laden and his disciples are small men and secondary threats whose shadows are made large by our fears” and our leaders.”

I suggest you and that idiot of an NIO and CIA analyst consult the families of the over 3,00 Americans who died on 9/11, Thomas Heyward. Maybe they should consult the economists, financial wizards and investors who experienced the loss of billions in savings and investments in the months following 9/11 as our economy suffered from those attacks.

You Paulistas have a quirky view on the real world. It might be better if you tried to live in it sometime.

Thogwummpy

May 1st, 2012
8:48 am

Yes, “Forward!” is sort of the “Seig Heil” traditional slogan of the Communist movement. AND, Obama’s Kenyan father (the one who’s “dreams” Obama admired in an authored book), was a deeply devoted “African Socialist” (which was interchangable with Communist during that era). Obama’s mother was a sympathizer to Communists…the Communists who knew her at the University of Hawaii states she was with them, a “fellow traveler”. AND, the favorite mentor Obama cites was Frank Marshall Davis; a leader in America’s Communist Party. Obama himself was a campus agitator and activist; taught Saul Alinsky (another Communist sympathizer) radicalism at the University of Chicago; and associated personally with all manner of former radicals from the 1960’s that were once themselves….Communists. YET, when he picks a famous Communist slogan to identify his re-election campaign—we’re mocked and called ridiculous for being wary that this may be his clever-clever “audacious” way of announcing his own empathy and ultimate agenda? Really? The man has flat said the private sector is “the enemy”; and THAT didn’t raise a Red Flag with you? Well, I’ve observed in life that “the trend is your friend”—-and the Forward slogan is just another item that tells you who Barry really is. He sure as heck ain’t a capitalist, and every element of his background screams “Socialism”…and a lot of it outright “Communism.” Making America Communist? Yeah, that “dream of his father” might not be achieved…but the damage of trying to install it would be staggering.

JKL2

May 1st, 2012
8:48 am

progressive- And let us not forget that the worst terrorist attack ever happened on Bush’s watch

So Clinton gutting our military and shutting down our intelligence agencies (because he was worried they would investigate him) had nothing to do with it? To borrow a line from obama’s Forward! campaign, “It’s Clinton’s fault”.

joe

May 1st, 2012
8:48 am

Tiberius - Banned from Bookman's and proud of it!

May 1st, 2012
8:49 am

Oh, and Kyle? Thanks for flushing that particular turd. Don’t know how you attract them so much.

Jefferson

May 1st, 2012
8:51 am

The rich guy with an image problem, he doesn’t like dogs or women and they are beginning to not like him. Now he’s looking like money is more important than security. When will he be loved ?

Rickster

May 1st, 2012
8:51 am

When you’re heading toward a cliff, Mr. President, the last thing you want to do is keep moving “Forward.”

Finn McCool (The System isn't Broken; It's Fixed)

May 1st, 2012
9:00 am

Let’s look at some past ball spiker’s shall we?

“We have captured or killed hundreds of al-Qaida,” Vice President Dick Cheney crowed. “In Iraq, we dealt with a gathering threat and removed the regime of Saddam Hussein. … Tonight he sits in jail.” Cheney went on: “Time and again, Sen. Kerry has made the wrong call on national security. … America needs and America has a president we can count on to get it right.”

http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/frame_game/2012/04/is_obama_s_bin_laden_video_a_partisan_exploitation_of_war_so_was_the_2004_bush_campaign_.html

The hypocrisy of the right knows no speed bumps.

Tiberius - Banned from Bookman's and proud of it!

May 1st, 2012
9:05 am

You know, this “Forward” thing is probably the only thing to run on for the current Liar-in-Chief.

He certainly doesn’t want to look back.

His signature piece of legislation, despised by more Americans now than when it was passed, looks to be overturned by the SCOTUS. His silly interfering in the sovereignty of a state’s right to handle that which his administration will not looks about to be overturned by the SCOTUS. The best thing his dogwashers can say about his economic stewardship is that “we’re turning the corner”. As Boortz put it so beautifully yesterday, he’s seen blue hairs driving their Buicks around their nursing home parking lots looking like NASCAR drivers compared to Obama’s “turning the corner”. And let’s not forget the additional $5 TRILLION in new debt (he’s now responsible for 1/3rd of this nations entire debt in just 3 years) and the downgrading of our bond rating.

So “Forward” is probably the best thing he can hope for, because looking back doesn’t do him much good.