What Hilary Rosen didn’t — and won’t — apologize for

I was out of the office on a reporting trip yesterday when the comments about Ann Romney by someone named Hilary Rosen morphed into the ludicrously named “mommy wars.” I call the appellation ludicrous for a couple of reasons — in part because it’s condescending, but chiefly because my reporting trip concerned programs to help soldiers returning from combat who are physically wounded or struggling to reconnect with their families. So, I’m less patient than ever with phrases such as “mommy wars” and the “war on women.”

Rosen has apologized for saying Ann Romney “hasn’t worked a day in her life” and said, as a mother, she can appreciate the work involved in being a stay-at-home mom. I have no reason to doubt her sincerity about that particular point — if only because, it seems obvious to me, the work ethic of stay-at-home moms wasn’t her real point. Her real point remains unretracted, and it is also repugnant.

The key part of Rosen’s original point can be found in the lead-up to the sentence that caused the controversy:

With respect to economic issues, I think actually that Mitt Romney is right, that ultimately women care more about the economic well-being of their families and the like. But he doesn’t connect on that issue either. What you have is Mitt Romney running around the country saying, well, you know my wife tells me that what women really care about are economic issues and when I listen to my wife that’s what I’m hearing.

I don’t think Rosen was trying to trivialize the work of stay-at-home moms. She was arguing that the Romneys, because they’re wealthy, aren’t capable of understanding the concerns of women, regardless of their vocation. She sure as heck hasn’t apologized for that. In fact, it was seconded by the president of NOW last night.

The obvious implication is that Ann Romney isn’t a Real Woman, which is of a piece with the prevalent liberal belief that the only authentic belief for Real Women is that abortion should be legal — and, since January, that contraception should be completely and universally subsidized. Or similar thoughts concerning what Real racial and ethnic minorities believe. But here’s how Mitt Romney recently spoke the thought that Rosen paraphrased:

My wife has the occasion, as you know, to campaign on her own and also with me, and she reports to me regularly that the issue women care about most is the economy.

So, while I presume Mitt Romney would argue his wife does in fact understand women’s concerns on her own, all he was really saying was that his wife talks to other women, and they tell her they’re concerned about the economy. Shocking!

But Rosen either a) believed this “reporting” beyond Ann Romney’s capability (hey, she’s never worked a day as a journalist, either!) or b) thought it would be good politics to misrepresent what Mitt Romney said about his wife in order to take yet another Democratic shot at the Romneys’ authenticity.

I think we can safely assume the answer is b), in which case we can also safely say that — despite the immediate efforts of the White House and Obama campaign officials to distance themselves from Rosen’s “never worked a day in her life” remark — her underlying point was entirely consistent with Democratic talking points.

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Dusty

April 15th, 2012
3:09 pm

Well, the Braves are doing just fine. Chipper has already hit a homer. Braves 4 to 1 in the fourth.

Michael H. Smith,

I’m not sure I know any true blue socialists. If you mean Obama, some people just like him. I’m not one of them. HIs policies don’t suit me.

Now, anybody know what Ann Romney ate for lunch? These little things seem important to some people here. This is busybody boardwalk…

DebbieDoRight - A Do Right Woman

April 15th, 2012
3:10 pm

Tiberius, in case you didn’t know, if someone can get your SSN (like a tax attorney for instance) OR get your corporation’s number, they can access ANYTHING. It’s called Freedom Of Information Act. Google it –maybe Wiki has some “credible” annotations on it.

oh and 320 footnotes in the words of Gershwin “dont mean a thing”. If they’re not credible its just 320 blots on a page………

Lil' Barry Bailout (Unexpectedly Revised Downward)

April 15th, 2012
3:11 pm

He says and does whatever he things is expedient at the moment. I find this sin far more egregious than his wealth.
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Yeah, I hate that about Obozo.

DannyX

April 15th, 2012
3:21 pm

“Now, anybody know what Ann Romney ate for lunch?”

Cheesy grits. Ann Romney ate a big bowl of cheesy grits for lunch.

Dusty

April 15th, 2012
3:28 pm

My goodness, Debbie Do Right,

Are you “acquiring” people’s SSN now? That does not sound too legal for a do right woman.

I bet you are one of those lawyers who advertise on TV. “Do you suffer with Magnus Halitosis from working with tiddlywinks, waffleburgers or garlic gumdrops? If you suffer severe symptoms or have passed on, I can help you. Call me now.” How’s business?

Dusty

April 15th, 2012
3:32 pm

DannyX

Cheesy girts” With no shrimp? That’s not fair.

DebbieDoRight - A Do Right Woman

April 15th, 2012
3:33 pm

Dusty – Too funny!! People like Mitt, who are ‘working” for the public, fall under a differnt heading than someone like you or i, or even Denzel Washington. How do you think the AJC knows which state politician owes on taxes, have never paid etc? It’s not too hard to find the truth if you just look.

PS: My firm doesn’t advertise. They’re like that old saying, “If you have to ask you can’t afford ‘em”…………..

Tiberius - Your lightning rod of hate!

April 15th, 2012
3:47 pm

DebbieDoRight – Internet stalker in training.

In case you missed it, Debbie, the people who need to be convinced to vote for Mitt Romney (that would be the moderates with working brains, btw), don’t care one thing about how much money Mitt Romney has, had, or will have, nor how much taxes he paid on anything he earned.

They care about jobs and the economy – period.

It is only liberal vermin like you who rail for tolerance and privacy, yet provide neither when it suits your purpose.

But when you’re done wasting your time and effort in an attempt to smear someone who has and will forever accomplish more than you will ever dream of doing yourself, you can sit back with a self-satisfied smile and give yourself a much needed pat on the back.

Dusty

April 15th, 2012
3:52 pm

DebbieDo Right
That is good to know. Would you mind telling me what taxes President Obama paid to the IRS last year? I don’t have his SSN even though he is working for the people.

Also what Michelle had for lunch? That’s terribly important, you know. Also, has she EVER swept a floor with a broom? Also important!!

This detective work is fun.

Dusty

April 15th, 2012
3:56 pm

BRAVES BULLETIN

Braves 5 to 1 in the seventh!!! Go Braves!!!

I think they eat cheesy grits too. Winners!

Lil' Barry Bailout (Unexpectedly Revised Downward)

April 15th, 2012
4:04 pm

Did Ann Romney ever run a $1.5 trillion deficit, or add $5 billion to the national debt, or fail so miserably on creating jobs that unemployment was 8-10% for three years, or put record numbers of folks on the dole?

MarkV

April 15th, 2012
4:11 pm

Dusty,

I do not know about you, but I wonder: Don’t you find the debate about Ann Romney and associated issues totally ridiculous, sterile and waste of time and effort? In my opinion, it does not make the slightest difference how she or any other spouse of a candidate has lived, whether rich or poor. As a matter of fact, to me it does not make much difference how a candidate has lived, except very indirectly. To me the main thing that matters is what the candidate wants to do and is likely to do when in the office. When we discuss what any candidate has said or done to date, it matters to me only in the sense of what it tells us about what he/she might do if elected.

Dusty

April 15th, 2012
4:30 pm

MarkV

Of course it is rediculous! I don’t care if Ann Romney eats cheesy grits, caviar, had ten nannies and five poodles and a partridge in a pear tree.

A little general information about a possible first family is fine. Unfortunately, politics sometimes brings out the worst in people.

Nothing new though. Did not the “enemies” of Andrew Jackson accuse his wife of smoking a pipe and a few other things? At least, they couldn’t “blog” about her!

We all have our hopes for the next president. This country needs to get going.

Are your bluebirds having mealy worms for dinner? What a menu!

tiredofIT

April 15th, 2012
4:38 pm

Romney the democrats secret weapon.

Dusty

April 15th, 2012
4:41 pm

THE BRAVES WON!!!!!!! 7 to 4

That ’s the way to do it, BRAVES.

MarkV

April 15th, 2012
4:58 pm

Dusty,

You are restoring my faith in reasonableness of at least some people on this blog.
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The bluebird babies have fledged and are being fed outside the birdhouse by mommy and daddy.
They and their parents are receiving the daily ration of their favorite meal – live mealworms.

Lil' Barry Bailout (Unexpectedly Revised Downward)

April 15th, 2012
4:59 pm

Ann Romney has worked at least as many days outside the home as Obozo has outside of government.

DannyX

April 15th, 2012
5:07 pm

“We all have our hopes for the next president. This country needs to get going.”

Will the American people make the same mistake they did when they re-elected Bush?

Who do you think is smarter Obama or Romney?
Obama 42%
Romney 33%

That’s quite a gap! When you consider that biased Fox News poll used sampling based on the 2010 mid-term instead of the 2008 presidential election its even worse for Romney. A more accurate poll would probably be 55%- 25% in Obama’s favor.

We are just now getting over the Bush nightmare, this country cannot take another dumb president like W. Use your brains America.

Rafe Hollister

April 15th, 2012
5:25 pm

Dusty

You mentioned Oblamer’s SSN. Apparently it is out there and reports say it was issued in Connecticut, a place he has never lived. Another question about his background.

Another big question that illustrates the hypocrisy of the Lib nation, which is not hard to do btw, is this. During the Sarah Palin VP run in 2008, just about every wiseacre lib asked the question about why is this women with a brood of children, one special needs (actually not the term they used), keeping her rear end at home taking care of her family. For some reason now they criticize Ann Romney for staying at home raising her five boys.

And still no answers to why we have no information about Barry Soetoro’s life before he got to Chicago. I keep throwing out questions and get no answers. How did he, a college student, from a broken home, afford an around the world trip after two years at Occidental College?

Rafe Hollister

April 15th, 2012
5:31 pm

Who do you think is smarter Obama or Romney?
Obama 42%
Romney 33%

DannyX, where did you get this info? How valid is it to ask someone who has never met either party to rate their intelligence. Do these people get paid for this useless bs.

I would say based on what little I know that Oblamer reads off a teleprompter much easier that Romney. Romney seems to have little practice. I guess he got where he is by thinking on his feet.

DannyX

April 15th, 2012
5:40 pm

“DannyX, where did you get this info?”

Right here Rafe
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/interactive/2012/04/12/fox-news-poll-romney-edges-obama-as-approval-president-drops/

“Do these people get paid for this useless bs.”

Agree Rafe, your statement is so true, its unbelievable that the folks at Fox News get paid for what they try to pass off as news.

Lil' Barry Bailout (Unexpectedly Revised Downward)

April 15th, 2012
6:08 pm

DannyX: We are just now getting over the Bush nightmare, this country cannot take another dumb president like W
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Yeah, those $160 billion deficits and 4-6% unemployment were just killing us.

Bigguy

April 15th, 2012
6:10 pm

Rafe – I don’t know about smarter, but it should soon be obvious who he better reader is.

Lil' Barry Bailout (Unexpectedly Revised Downward)

April 15th, 2012
6:11 pm

Who do you think is smarter Obama or Romney?
Obama 42%
Romney 33%
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Hitler was a pretty intelligent guy, too.

Joel

April 15th, 2012
6:22 pm

This piece could be used in an intro to logic class as a beautiful example of the Straw Man fallacy. Neither of the implications which Kyle draws are logically warranted, but rather reflect his own biases about what liberals believe.

Tiberius - Your lightning rod of hate!

April 15th, 2012
6:42 pm

“Don’t you find the debate about Ann Romney and associated issues totally ridiculous, sterile and waste of time and effort?”

Only took two full days and 11+ pages for MarkV to come to that conclusion. Too bad he didn’t bother to defend the people being attacked (the Romney’s) when it happened. If it was Michelle, he’d have been all over these pages with poutrage.

I Report (-: You Whine )-: mmm, mmmm, mmmmm! Just sayin...

April 15th, 2012
6:48 pm

“I can’t think of a time when I felt it was more important for us to defeat an incumbent president today with respect to Barack Obama. I think he has been an unmitigated disaster to the country,” Cheney said at the Wyoming Republican Party state convention in Cheyenne on Saturday.

Looks like they didn’t cut off blood flow to his brain while they swapped out his heart, just sayin…

MarkV

April 15th, 2012
6:48 pm

As another blogger has already noticed, Tiberius is under the false impression that he debates when he writes his stupid attacks. Is it just an acute case of infantility, or something more serious? With his childish fantasy of me getting my “head handed to you time after time after time on virtually every subject” – in his dreams? Or is it megalomania, his puerile ideas about who should participate on the blog, and his pretense of omniscience about what others believe in or what they would do under some circumstances?

Tiberius - Your lightning rod of hate!

April 15th, 2012
6:56 pm

“As another blogger has already noticed, Tiberius is under the false impression that he debates when he writes his stupid attacks.”

Debate takes two intelligent people, MarkV. Which is why you and the other blooger are disqualified from participating.

It also takes someone with the stones to actually reply directly to me. Which you also do not possess.

MarkV

April 15th, 2012
7:00 pm

I do not answer intellectually challenged fools.

Tiberius - Your lightning rod of hate!

April 15th, 2012
7:03 pm

“I do not answer intellectually challenged fools.”

I wouldn’t talk to the mirror if I were you, either, MarkV.

Nice to see you continue to focus on anything else but the topic at hand. As usual.

Odis

April 15th, 2012
7:44 pm

@Tiberus and @Rafe – While everyone has a right to their opinion, you don’t have a right to your own made up facts. The bottom line is that Mitt Romney is a moderate, much in the same mode as Bill Clinton. I find it so interesting that so many so called “conservatives” are so quick to overlook or dismiss all of Romney’s past statements from when he was running for governor and when he was running for US Senate. So many so called important issues that the republican care so deeply for Mitt Romney has been on record as being against. I personally have no problem with Mitt Romney because I can see him for what he is: wooden and fake, and willing to tell the republicans what ever they want to hear to get thier vote and their money, even if he doesn’t personally believe it. Heck even one of his advisors this weekend actually made that statement. Even the folks over at Redstate have said Romney is wrong for the republican party. Ann Coulter said last year that if Romney is the party’s nominee then they will lose the election. Priceless. And for the record, Romney was governor, if he didn’t like Romneycare he could have vetoed the bill, but he didn’t.

Everyone with half a working brain can see that Romney is a moderate.

bluecoat

April 15th, 2012
8:00 pm

Appears the secret service are a bunch of Bush holdovers.Taxpayer dollars buying prostitutes.Clinton/Newt/Herman paid their own way.

Rafe Hollister

April 15th, 2012
8:01 pm

Odis
Let me answer in words you can understand. We are willing to take a chance on Romney as he is the only one of two remaining that has a chance at turning around this great country. We would like to pass on to our children and grandchildren a country that is free, financially stable, has high quality health care, respected around the world, and competently run. The other guy had his chance, and in the words of someone else, has proven to be an unmitigated disaster.

BTW most of what you wrote above is factually false. Too much to get into, but Ann Coulter has been in the Romney camp from the get go. Source, anncoulter.com.

Rafe Hollister

April 15th, 2012
8:05 pm

bluecoat
Appears the secret service are a bunch of Bush holdovers.Taxpayer dollars buying prostitutes.Clinton/Newt/Herman paid their own way.

That is your speculation, mine is that they had seen so much during the Oblamer regime, they just thought they were……………………ENTITLED to a little strange.

nomobama

April 15th, 2012
8:06 pm

What blows my mind is Dem women actually think that the women’s right to choose trumps the economy, socialism threatening our freedom, and entitlements blank check sinking our country into a national debt abyss that we may never overcome…I thought ya’ll were smarter than that. Time to wise up and vote out this administration.

Odis

April 15th, 2012
8:07 pm

Rafe- Romney is not the guy to run this country. There is a big difference between knowing how to make money by bankrupting companies or sending them overseas for cheap labor then it is to run the United States. And for the record the US is more respected now under President Obama’s leadership then at any point under the last republican presidency. And again you are entitled to your own opinion, but not your own facts. Go to youtube and watch Ann Coulter giving a speech where she plainly said that if Chis Christie does not run, then Mitt Romney will win the nomination and the republican will lose the election. She may be singing a different song these days, but those where her words, not my words, but Ann Coulter’s own words.

@@

April 15th, 2012
8:15 pm

Does Mizzzzzz Rosen realize how many low to middle-income women are stay-at-home Moms? Obviously not.

There’s no creature more vicious, divisive or self-absorbed than a “feminist” woman.

Hilary Rosen…a paid lobbyist and consultant for British Petroleum?

Who got the twins when she and her lover (Elizabeth Birch) called it quits?

Meeeeoooow!!!!

The hand that rocks the cradle is the hand that rules the world.
- W.R. Wallace

Lil' Barry Bailout (Revised Downward)

April 15th, 2012
8:17 pm

Turns out homosexuality among females is neither nature or nurture. It’s caused by naming them “Hilary”.

Rafe Hollister

April 15th, 2012
8:28 pm

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Hilary Rosen…a paid lobbyist and consultant for British Petroleum?

I didn’t know that. The Carney barker at the WH said she must work for CNN. John King at CNN said that was ludicrous. So, now we know, Oblamer hanging with big oil, and BP the polluter of the Gulf at that.

Michael H. Smith

April 15th, 2012
8:34 pm

Reagan was nowhere near the “inflexible conservative” many try to make him out to be and George H. W. Bush was a moderate. Were they in the wrong Party?

Anyone knucklehead enough to think if a person changes position on issues it makes them fake, best watch out…. obumer is just as phony as the next lousy politician on that score, if not worse.
And, everyone that thinks or suggests what Romney did with healthcare in Massachusetts at the State level of government is the same thing obumer did with healthcare at the Federal Government level really isn’t educated in the constitution well enough to be on a political blog discussing the issue let alone well enough informed to vote. People who don’t understand Federalism usually don’t get the Electoral College either. DUH!

Romney is exactly what this country needs: Someone with years of executive experience in both private and public sectors, who has a proven track record of business success and success as an executive of a State… not a community organizer that equates into nothing but an inexperienced loudmouth neighborhood agitator who wings things while in OJT that doesn’t know how to reduce deficits, only create them or plan sensible budgets that can actually be past by members of his on Party in the Congress and do all the things government should do that makes the private sector capitalist environment conducive to job creation, wealth enhancement and economic tranquility.

Rafe Hollister

April 15th, 2012
8:34 pm

Odis
Rafe- Romney is not the guy to run this country. There is a big difference between knowing how to make money by bankrupting companies or sending them overseas for cheap labor then it is to run the United States.

Well, even if that were true and it is not, making money is one more accomplishment that Barry had when he was sworn in. You trust our country to a $12,000 a year community organizer, but do not feel a person who has run the Olympics, governed a state, made billions for the companies he ran, and has an clean record open for all to examine is not qualified. There is no one so blind, as those who would not see.

Michael H. Smith

April 15th, 2012
8:40 pm

Goodnight all.

Rafe Hollister

April 15th, 2012
8:43 pm

MHS, that is interesting what you wrote earlier about converting vehicles to natural gas. I have never figured out what the hold up is on the GOP side. I guess all their supporters and buddies in big oil are opposed, but not sure what their problem is. Boone Pickens has spent millions trying to get their attention that the solution is at hand, but made little if any progress.

The Dems are easy to figure. Their supporters in the green (i.e. non efficient) energy scams and the tree huggers are against it.

Just never figured why it hasn’t gotten off the ground. The conversion as you say is easy, it is just there are few if any refueling stations, so you can’t go anywhere. Clark Howard tried it at one time, he said only one place to refill inside perimeter. That may have changed by now, but not many. What say you?

david c

April 15th, 2012
8:48 pm

I’m so tired of this posturing, I’m going to jump in my two Cadillacs, and spend some time with my horses. Just like Ann Romney did this week. There’s your everywoman.

voting

April 15th, 2012
8:50 pm

i’ll be writing in a vote for Ron Paul.

@@

April 15th, 2012
8:52 pm

Rafe:

Mizzzzz Rosen’s job was to handle the fallout from BP’s oil spill.

When she began consulting for British Petroleum on how to deal with fallout from the 2010 Gulf oil spill, the Huffington Post — editorially very critical of BP — cut ties.

And…

An ardent supporter of Hillary Clinton in that election, she told Queerty of the sexism the candidate faced: “Millions of women who felt this can’t be wrong. We hear things based upon a lifetime of slights and therefore we hear them differently often than men do.”

Did a little slighting of her own, didn’t she?

No need for a man, when a “sister’s” around to do their dirty work.

schnirt

Odis

April 15th, 2012
8:55 pm

@Rafe – Yes its so honorable and noble what Romney has done to make his tens of millions of dollars: strip companies of their assests, ship jobs overseas, and make millions of dollars while doing it. What ever REPUBLICAN that called that VULTURE CAPITALISM was right. I have more respect for President Obama who could have had any law position he wanted after graduating from Harvard Law School, and easily have made $150K his first year in practice but instead did something more noble and gave back to his community.

And if Romney is that open and has such a clean record then why did he and his staff take all their computer hard drives at the end of his term as governor? What was he trying to hide?

And by the way, George W. Bush was a so called business man too, and we all know how well that worked out for the country.

Lil' Barry Bailout (Revised Downward)

April 15th, 2012
8:55 pm

Isn’t it funny how libtards want to impose their morals on women?

Mind your own business, fascists.

bluecoat

April 15th, 2012
8:58 pm

We need more failed savings and loan expertise.More created wars.More unfunded drug supplements.More points of lights.If this is what experience gets you,then give me the organizer.