Augusta National and the female question

Two rites of spring for many Georgians arrive today: the first round of the Masters in Augusta, and opening day for the Braves (albeit in New York this year). I’m a bigger fan of football than baseball or, especially, golf. But whether it’s because of the length of the season, the arguably greater unpredictability of the game, or simply the fact that it takes place in nature’s own season of renewal, there’s nothing quite like the blue-sky optimism of game No. 1 of 162 for a major league baseball team. (For the record, I like the Braves’ chances of making the postseason as long as we get health from the pitchers and merely average years from the hitters.)

As for the Masters, for the first time in awhile part of the storyline there centers on the Augusta National’s lack hitherto of female members. This once hot discussion was rekindled when a woman, Virginia Rometty, became chief executive of IBM — a position that, because of IBM’s longstanding role as a sponsor of the golf tournament, traditionally comes with the green jacket of club membership. Augusta National’s leaders have long said the club would accept a woman as a member at a time of its choosing. Will Rometty’s ascension at IBM trigger that choice?

Frankly, I couldn’t care less. Many women have played golf at Augusta National, so this isn’t even a question of access. The club is a private organization, and it has as much right to stick to an all-male membership as the Boy Scouts have to accept only boys, and the Girl Scouts only girls. As someone whose own chances of joining the club are only infinitesimally greater than the chances of every woman in the world, I have a hard time getting worked up about it either way. Augusta National can maintain or change its ways and deal with whatever public criticism comes its way. No skin off my back.

What I do find interesting, however, is that this discussion about equal standing for women would be renewed during our era of demonizing “the rich” and “the 1 percent.” Could there be any less meaningful sign of equal standing for any group than the acceptance of one of its members into a private club for the 1 percent of the 1 percent of the 1 percent?

– By Kyle Wingfield

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ByteMe

April 5th, 2012
12:19 pm

Ooohh… an irony post! Good show, Kyle!!

Here’s more irony for ya:

The Center For Health Transformation, a think tank founded by Newt Gingrich to generate legislative proposals for health care reform, is filing for Chapter 7 bankruptcy according to the Atlanta Business Chronicle.

Much like Gingrich’s campaign, it appears as if struggles with debt were its biggest problem. The Chronicle reports it has $1 million to $10 million in liabilities.

The group became a liability for Gingrich on the campaign trail last year after it was discovered its website forcefully called for a mandate requiring citizens to purchase health insurance — exactly the position enacted by Mitt Romney in Massachusetts and President Obama in his 2010 health care law.

carlosgvv

April 5th, 2012
12:20 pm

Even thought I am a male, my chances of ever gaining membership at Augusta National are about zero. This is an exclusive club for rich and powerful men. Because of this, like you Kyle, I could not possibly care less about a club that excludes not only women but at least 99% of all men.

ByteMe

April 5th, 2012
12:30 pm

Even if they allowed women in the Club, I still wouldn’t watch the Masters.

Kyle Wingfield

April 5th, 2012
12:32 pm

C’mon, ByteMe. It’s worth watching just for the scenery. (And I mean that in the real, not the ironically euphemistic, sense.)

Cassie

April 5th, 2012
12:40 pm

Well it’s perfectly understandable.

They just want to keep out the icky girls, because if they were allowed into the treehouse, then girls might discover the code to the boys’ super-secret decoder rings, and then the boys wouldn’t be able to send each other secret messages about Ovaltine anymore. It’s important!

/peals of laughter/

ByteMe

April 5th, 2012
12:42 pm

It’s worth watching just for the scenery

Seriously? We both have little kids at the right age that are more marvelous to watch than some flowering trees broken up by plaid-clad men chasing a little white ball. My vote’s to watch the kids play instead. Maybe we’ll drive down to Calloway Gardens instead.

I read where the blooms came too early this year.

Tiberius - Your lightning rod of hate!

April 5th, 2012
12:48 pm

“by plaid-clad men chasing a little white ball.”

You don’t get out much, do you, ByteMe?

Plaid went out in the 70’s, son. For pretty much everything and everybody.

Kyle Wingfield

April 5th, 2012
12:49 pm

Well, my kids still take naps in the afternoon…

And my older son’s favorite color is green 8)

Tiberius - Your lightning rod of hate!

April 5th, 2012
12:50 pm

On topic:

Private organization gets to make their own rules.

If IBM no longer wishes to renew their sponsorship because of the rules, that’s their choice as well.

Thank God government isn’t in the middle of this one, even if we can’t keep the political hacks from making it an issue.

Don't Tread

April 5th, 2012
1:09 pm

“Thank God government isn’t in the middle of this one…”

…yet.

Give it time, though, and there will be screams of “equality”, “no justice, no peace”, “1%”, and whatever other slogans that people with single-digit IQs can remember and chant on cue from their self-appointed masters. (no pun intended)

carlosgvv

April 5th, 2012
1:20 pm

It’s hard to believe that grown men and women actually get paid large sums of money to see who can knock a little white ball into a hole in the ground with the fewest hits.

ragnar danneskjold

April 5th, 2012
1:21 pm

Only leftists think there is need to micromanage the intellectual preferences of individuals. Conservatives do not care unless someone dies.

Bryan G.

April 5th, 2012
1:21 pm

This is the biggest non story totally manufactured in the media. Who gives a flying fig? Private club…they can keep women out if they want. Women can make their own darn club if they don’t like it.

UGA 1999

April 5th, 2012
1:22 pm

Logical Dude

April 5th, 2012
1:44 pm

I hope they do invite her. That way, all those “all-men” supporters can get their panties in a wad.

No other reason really, only for the entertainment value. ;)

Otherwise, they are a private club and invite who they want to invite. If one happens to be a women, then cool, if not, also cool. Although if I was in the club, I’d want some women around me.

getalife

April 5th, 2012
1:47 pm

The gop war on women is pathetic.

Do you feel that?

That is the feeling of a come back.

Lets all thank President Obama for saving our country from the w disaster.

ByteMe

April 5th, 2012
2:09 pm

Well, my kids still take naps in the afternoon…

Sigh. I wish. Mine are non-stop from dawn to night and have been since they turned 2.

As for his favorite color: “Green is good” :)

Centrist

April 5th, 2012
2:11 pm

This on Drudge: “Obama weighs in on Augusta National golf dispute… “. His mouth engages before his brain – just like the SCOTUS and hoodie/stand your ground issues.

On another subject – Santorum out on Monday unless he wants to be embarrassed by losing his PA home state primary later this month (along with all of the rest of primaries until he finally quits). An incumbent ex-Senator who got trounced in a re-election attempt is not exactly presidential timber. He has no chance in 2016 being jobless, and lots of GOP Governors/ Congressmen already jockeying for position.

Jefferson

April 5th, 2012
2:19 pm

Her best chance has to do with money, nothing else.

Just saying..

April 5th, 2012
2:20 pm

As long as Dusty and Linda are good with it…

Mountain Man

April 5th, 2012
2:42 pm

I only think they should keep out the real riff-raff, you know, white men under 50.

Mountain Man

April 5th, 2012
2:43 pm

Especially those with blond hair and blue eyes.

md

April 5th, 2012
2:52 pm

“It’s hard to believe that grown men and women actually get paid large sums of money to see who can knock a little white ball into a hole in the ground with the fewest hits.”…or:

Throw and hit a little white ball….or
Kick a ball into a net……or
Throw a ball into a net……or
Drive a car in circles……or
Throw, catch, and run with an oblong ball….or
Report non-news on a news channel….or
Play dress-up in Hollywood……or
Tell non-funny jokes late at night…..or
Insert other ridiculous things we over pay for………..

While we under pay those that actually put their lives on the line……such as:

Firefighters
Police Officers
Soldiers
Paramedics
Etc

md

April 5th, 2012
2:57 pm

“Mine are non-stop from dawn to night and have been since they turned 2.”

Ahh….the good years……enjoy them while you can. The teen years are just around the corner and then you get to be stupid for at least a decade………..

md

April 5th, 2012
2:58 pm

Cassie…..too funny.

We had girls in our treehouse and liked to play Doctor……..I know these days some play doctor without the girls, but I’d still prefer the girls.

Linda

April 5th, 2012
2:58 pm

GOLF: Gentlemen Only Ladies Forbidden

If I was Ms. Rometty & Augusta National invited me to join, I would politely decline. I respect tradition. I respect the right of freedom of association. I respect men’s rights. I respect rights to form a private club & to adhere to the rules on membership. If I was Ms. Rometty, I would make my opinions clear prior to any invitation. I would be insulted to be issued an invitation. I would feel uncomfortable to be the only woman in a men’s only club & to be invited only for a sponsorship.

Furthermore, I would not be caught dead in one of those putrid green jackets.

David Granger

April 5th, 2012
2:59 pm

President Obama just weighed in on the “controversy”, and he feels that the Augusta National should allow women to join.

I agree with him completely. But to be fair, the Augusta National IS a private club, with the perfect legal right to set its own membership policies.

And while we’re discussing such subjects, I would like to point out that several caucasian (and one Asian) legislators have tried to join the Congressional Black Caucus. They have a number of African-Americans in their districts, and they feel that being in the CBC would give them a greater insight to some of the concerns of African-Americans, which would help them better serve a big portion of their constituency. But the Congressional Black Caucus restricts its membership to Blacks-Only…even though some of the costs (meeting rooms, secretarial staff, light bills, etc.) are paid for by the government.

If you’re not a hypocrite, Mr. President, I think that your intervention on behalf of these non-Black congressmen and congresswomen…and your support for their inclusion into the group…would go a LONG way towards changing CBC policy.

How about it, sir?

ByteMe

April 5th, 2012
3:07 pm

The teen years are just around the corner and then you get to be stupid for at least a decade………..

Yeah, I know what’s coming (this is my second set). I’m really enjoying this part, though.

getalife

April 5th, 2012
3:09 pm

Thank you President Obama for fighting for women.

Gimme Gimme Gimme

April 5th, 2012
3:13 pm

“Thank you President Obama for fighting for women.”

Then why did he select a Supreme Court Justice who belonged to an all female club.

Gimme Gimme Gimme

April 5th, 2012
3:17 pm

Woman used to fight for equality and were tough as nails. Suddenly they are helpless little girls that need help from the government just to survive.

Just a shame.

getalife

April 5th, 2012
3:18 pm

Why are there no women on this blog?

Because they are under attack and left the gop.

Gimme Gimme Gimme

April 5th, 2012
3:20 pm

Let’s stop the Obama War on Religion!

getalife

April 5th, 2012
3:21 pm

gim,

Why do corporations need welfare?

Can they not stand on their own?

md

April 5th, 2012
3:24 pm

“Why do corporations need welfare?”

To pay for your retirement??

Ayn Rant

April 5th, 2012
3:27 pm

It takes Republican politicians to turn women against men.I think there’s an ancient Greek play about that.

Gimme Gimme Gimme

April 5th, 2012
3:27 pm

I guess POTUS is going to give a speech a day to get on TV.

Looks like he didn’t raise that $1 Billion after all.

Junior Samples

April 5th, 2012
3:29 pm

Hilarious tie in Kyle.

“This once hot discussion was rekindled”
Yeah, rekindled every year.

“What I do find interesting, however, is that this discussion about equal standing for women would be renewed during our era of demonizing “the rich” ”

Just a coincidence, it happens every year, keep moving.

Linda

April 5th, 2012
3:34 pm

Anyone who thinks the Augusta National is discriminating against women is foolish. I would bet there is not a single member who has not been married at least once, loves all their female family members & respects all their female associates.

WOW

April 5th, 2012
3:36 pm

@ Centrist:

His weighing in was the Press Secretary being asked a question and then answering it. That’s hardly getting involved.

Kyle Wingfield

April 5th, 2012
3:39 pm

Junior Samples: It’s possible that I’ve missed it, but I don’t recall nearly as much talk about it in the last several years.

midtownguy

April 5th, 2012
3:45 pm

Augusta National has the right to admit whom they please. Sponsors have the right to withdraw sponsorship if they don’t like the club policies.

One thing does puzzles me. I can’t remember the name of the club, the it was over in BIrmingham and was all white. The PGA would not allow an event there until they admitted a minority member. How is this different?

Billy Peeler

April 5th, 2012
3:49 pm

It’s different, midtownguy, because the Masters is NOT a PGA event. It is sponsored solely by the Augusta National Golf Club, and is not under any of the rules or regulations of the PGA.

jewcowboy

April 5th, 2012
3:52 pm

Do they allow men in Curves?

Jefferson

April 5th, 2012
3:53 pm

I thought md was a capitalist, so why are cops underpaid ?

ByteMe

April 5th, 2012
3:54 pm

but I don’t recall nearly as much talk about it in the last several years.

You haven’t missed it. It’s been quiet for something like 6 or 7 years now.

Oooh, this’ll leave a mark on some of the partisan hacks in the comment section:

Asked whether women should be admitted to the all-male Augusta National Golf Club, Mitt Romney on Thursday said “yes.”

jewcowboy

April 5th, 2012
3:56 pm

“The PGA would not allow an event there until they admitted a minority member.”

Augusta National Golf Club admitted their first black member in 1990: Ron Townsend, President Gannet Television.

midtownguy

April 5th, 2012
3:56 pm

I did not know that. But in 2012 this does seem a little silly. I mean what is your possible objection to a female member other than it has always been traditionally male. Besides, I don’t know many women who would wear the supremely ugly green blazer.

Jefferson

April 5th, 2012
3:59 pm

Must be choices they made, eh ?

Kyle Wingfield

April 5th, 2012
4:00 pm

Ok, so maybe I’m going to take back that Braves prediction…or emphasize the conditions I placed on it…pretty ugly 1-0 loss.

Linda

April 5th, 2012
4:03 pm

Obama is a disciple of Saul Alinsky. Organizing the South Bronx quotes:

“Increase militancy by polarizing the situation, by identifying the enemy and by developing the situation in terms of good guys and bad guys.” (p. 89)

“It is absolutely essential to select a ripe target [a person] and build animosity toward him or her.” (p. 228)

This is the basis of Obama’s class warfare, as well as all the other wars he’s started to divide America.

BuckeyeinGa

April 5th, 2012
4:05 pm

It’s a private club..it’s the club decision, which the President bascially said as well. The only thing that can really be done is the PGA stopped having a major there..and that won’t happen.

BuckeyeinGa

April 5th, 2012
4:07 pm

Obama is a disciple of Saul Alinsky

what is your source for this?

ByteMe

April 5th, 2012
4:10 pm

what is your source for this?

Sean Hannity.

Of course, there’s this ironic item in Wikipedia:

Adam Brandon, a spokesman for the conservative non-profit organization FreedomWorks, which is one of several groups involved in organizing Tea Party protests, says the group gives Alinsky’s Rules for Radicals to its top leadership members.

jewcowboy

April 5th, 2012
4:10 pm

“Obama is a…”

I must have missed something…what does Obama have to do with Augusta?

Junior Samples

April 5th, 2012
4:18 pm

Every year it’s the same thing.
Look how pretty the course is.
How will Tiger do?
Green jacket.
Fried chicken.
No women.

Jefferson

April 5th, 2012
4:20 pm

You can’t have class warfare without classes.

Linda

April 5th, 2012
4:21 pm

A fisherman friend of ours bought a cabin on a lake. His wife spent hundreds of thousands of dollars “fixing it up,” using an expensive interior decorator. It was exquisite within 6 months. As soon as she finished, he listed for sale & told the real estate agent to find him a replacement. He had 2 requirements: it had to be on a lake & it had to have dirt floors.

His wife refused to step foot in the replacement. (Thank God!)

Smart women know when it’s appropriate to give space & not to intrude.

HIPPOCRIT

April 5th, 2012
4:24 pm

what if the master’s accepts hot women and they must golf in bikinis………………… then rating would go up………… maybe let half of the LPGA in

MarkV

April 5th, 2012
4:24 pm

Most people commenting here seem to have focused on the legal aspect of the membership. I do not see any effort of the government to force the Augusta National to open the membership to women.

On the other hand, the restriction of the membership there to males only is an anachronism, and sooner or later it will change. There are all kinds of possible valid reasons for any organization to limit the membership based on specific criteria, but the gender separation is rapidly becoming morally indefensible in most cases.

Linda

April 5th, 2012
4:25 pm

Buckeye@4:07, Here’s one. Read under Legacy.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saul_Alinsky

getalife

April 5th, 2012
4:25 pm

“To pay for your retirement??”

Nah, President Clinton’s bubble took care of that.

Love that President.

getalife

April 5th, 2012
4:27 pm

The gop waged class, gender and race wars.

If they attacked you, stand up and fight Americans.

Churchill's MOM

April 5th, 2012
4:27 pm

My sisteris married into a members family. I grew up & my parents live in a house a few hundred yards from the back of the masters. Mother, my kids & I are on our way to Hilton Head for a fun long week end. My Sister is stuck in Disgusta putting up with the party season. My Father & Husbandhave tickets but will probably stay at the house on Clark Hill & drink beer. You could not pay me enough to spend Master’s week in town.

PS I would NOT want to be a member, I think there are only 7 Augusta menbers is is mostly outsiders who simply have big egoes.

Linda

April 5th, 2012
4:29 pm

Linda

April 5th, 2012
4:36 pm

carlosgvv

April 5th, 2012
4:48 pm

md – 2:52

We live in such a distorted country that I expect to see talking rabbits and Cheshire cats grinning any day now.

carlosgvv

April 5th, 2012
4:51 pm

Churchills MOM – 4:27

From the spelling and grammer of this post, I’d say your Father and Husband aren’t the only ones drinking beer.

md

April 5th, 2012
5:00 pm

“I thought md was a capitalist, so why are cops underpaid ?”

Because they chose to work for the gov’t……..and we as a society are clueless in our prioities.

I say let them go private and charge as much as their services bear……..and if folks don’t want to pay for their services, so be it……they can do it themselves.

md

April 5th, 2012
5:07 pm

Yep, the gender moral issue is going to eventually force guys to join bachelorette parties and girls to bachelor parties……after all, there really is no difference.

Might be fun getting to join the little hen club when they go en mass to the ladies room for long periods of time………

md

April 5th, 2012
5:09 pm

Next thing you know, some of the above are going to cancel poker night with the guys……it just can’t be moral.

Intown

April 5th, 2012
5:11 pm

“Could there be any less meaningful sign of equal standing for any group than the acceptance of one of its members into a private club for the 1 percent of the 1 percent of the 1 percent?”

I think it still has some meaning. I mean, it’s like even if a woman becomes CEO of one of the top companies in the world she STILL can’t obtain some things. It’s a really really high glass ceiling but a ceiling nonetheless.

BuckeyeinGa

April 5th, 2012
5:16 pm

@Linda 4:36.
He was not a disciple. per your own source
Obama was profoundly influenced by his years as a community organizer in Chicago, even if he ultimately rejected Alinsky’s disdain for electoral politics and, like Hillary Clinton, chose to work within the system.

Just because you agree with SOME things doesn’t make you a disciple.

Whatever

April 5th, 2012
5:28 pm

Same here. Who would want to be there anyway? I like my current friends just fine.

Whatever

April 5th, 2012
5:29 pm

Intown,

These highly successful women can start their own rich club and keep the men out. Who cares?

BuckeyeinGa

April 5th, 2012
5:31 pm

Along the same lines of thinking if someone learned how to drive a golf ball from Tiger Woods..they must be his disciple and will start having affairs with people from all over the country

getalife

April 5th, 2012
5:35 pm

“Obama Solidifying Lead Among Independents in Swing States
April 4, 2012

Barack Obama’s positioning against Mitt Romney among independent voters in 12 key swing states has steadily improved since last year, with Obama now leading 48% to 39% among this group after trailing in December.” Gallup.

Game over.

Linda

April 5th, 2012
5:39 pm

Buckeye@5:16, My source? I gave you 3 sources & could produce more. Evidently you did not even read my sources. The last source quoted several folks from the main stream media. Clinton’s thesis was on Alinsky. Obama TAUGHT Alinsky tactics. They were both community organizers from Chicago. Obama would have never been elected had it not been for ACORN, community organizers.

You were shocked that Obama had ever even been associated with Alinsky. What have your sources of news been for the last 4 years? The book I quoted above was endorsed by Bill Ayers, the radical from whose home Obama launched his political career.

Obama speaks as a moderate, but his actions have absolutely nothing to do with his words, & if he is re-elected, both his words & his actions will coincide, for the first time.

Hillbilly D

April 5th, 2012
5:48 pm

Put me squarely in the who cares column.

Tiberius - Your lightning rod of hate!

April 5th, 2012
5:53 pm

“Barack Obama’s positioning against Mitt Romney among independent voters in 12 key swing states has steadily improved since last year, with Obama now leading 48% to 39% among this group after trailing in December.” Gallup.”

Sorry to burst your bubble, getaclue, but Gallup polls “registered” voters, not “likely” voters, where the numbers are significantly different.

In addition, polls this far out mean absolutely nothing.

Kinda like your posts.

midtownguy

April 5th, 2012
6:04 pm

Saul Alinsky is required reading in most college sociology, social work, and clinical psychology courses, especially graduate level courses. His use of group dynamics to alter behavior is as classic as Freudian ego psychology.

Cynic

April 5th, 2012
6:15 pm

Getalife, don’t worry the KKK will be at the voting sites dissuading potential Oblamer voters just like the Black Panthers did.

I Report (-: You Whine )-: mmm, mmmm, mmmmm! Just sayin...

April 5th, 2012
6:15 pm

What about lib women that used to be men?

getalife

April 5th, 2012
6:15 pm

willard, the newt and his wife agree with our President on this issue.

The gop lost the war on women and now will pander to try to get their votes.

Independent women in the swing states are crushing willard and supporting our President.

getalife

April 5th, 2012
6:19 pm

Not worried cynic.

I am confident with our competent President and happy he brought our country back.

He deserves respect and honor.

MarkV

April 5th, 2012
6:29 pm

“…just like the Black Panthers did.”

Have they found a fourth one, or are they still just three of them?

Linda

April 5th, 2012
6:34 pm

midtownguy@6:04, Alinsky was evil. Your give more proof that our college & university students are being brain-washed by liberal professors, not to mention our elementary & high school students by the progressive doctrine.

Tiberius - Your lightning rod of hate!

April 5th, 2012
6:36 pm

Respect and honor are earned, getaclue.

At least from people of principle.

The rest of you fawning sycophants can throw things you clearly don’t value at our current Disaster-in-Chief all you want.

gm

April 5th, 2012
6:42 pm

Come on Lets face it, the rep party our still living in the 20th century America can not move forward until these old white rep males die off, Obama is hated by the right because he is not the typical good old boy white male chauvinist pigs.

The first bill he passed was the Lilly Ledbetter act for women, Bush cared less about passing any bills or standing up for women because he was one of those good old boys. Thank God we have a President who has morales, family values and thinks every one should be treated with respect, this is why good with defeat satans rep conservative party””””’

Linda

April 5th, 2012
6:50 pm

Tiberius, would you argue with an empty coat hanger?
Whether you know it or not, you are doing just that.

I Report (-: You Whine )-: mmm, mmmm, mmmmm! Just sayin...

April 5th, 2012
6:55 pm

Gary Tuchman at CNN, “We took it into a different room and we listened to it, and now it’s pretty obvious he didn’t say what we thought he said. There was no racial slur.” As a result of this, the entire basis on which the mainstream media has been reporting this story has been shown to be a total lie and made up. They wanted there to be a racial component to this so bad that the New York Times referred to Zimmerman as a white Hispanic for only the fifth time that anybody could find in the New York Times archives.

Another lie exposed and they crawl back under their filthy rocks.

Real Athens

April 5th, 2012
6:56 pm

“would you argue with an empty coat hanger”

Exactly why most contributors on this blog ignore you.

Hillbilly D

April 5th, 2012
7:01 pm

I Report

Whenever I heard the first airing of what you’re talking about, I didn’t have a clue about what was said and after I heard the enhanced version, I still didn’t have a clue. It reminded me of back when they played Beatles’ records backwards. People heard what they wanted to hear.

Linda

April 5th, 2012
7:23 pm

gm@6:42, Until you can realize that blacks are USED by the self-appointed black thugs, such as Sharpton & Jackson, you & blacks will forever be engrossed in the bondage & slavery that these thugs MUST maintain to keep their irrelevance relevant. When have these thugs ever stood up for morals or family values that you find important? Preachers who do not condemn the number of innocent black children murdered by their mothers’ live-in boyfriends? When has Obama ever stood up for the cause that MLK stood for that has been exploited by your new-found “leadership?”

Linda

April 5th, 2012
7:26 pm

Real@6:56, Are you referring to me or Tiberius? If contributors are ignoring me, why are you not among them?

nelson

April 5th, 2012
7:27 pm

There is a kernel of truth wrapped in a shell of over simplification. It makes a great deal of difference whether women ARE to become members of the Augusta Country Club. Just as boys[should belong to the girl scouts and girls in the boy scouts This country was founded on equal opportunity. Constitutional medicine is equal opportunity

Real Athens

April 5th, 2012
7:41 pm

thug   [thuhg] noun

1. a cruel or vicious ruffian, robber, or murderer.
2. (sometimes initial capital letter ) one of a former group of professional robbers and murderers in India who strangled their victims.

Linda

April 5th, 2012
7:47 pm

Real@7:41, You are getting close, but wrong country.

gm

April 5th, 2012
7:47 pm

Linda

If it was not for Sharpton, Jessie the Martin case would have been sweept under the rugged like so many other cases, 2rd Obama is the President of the United States of America and not a civil rights leader.
I never heard Bush come out when white mass murders go on killing spree, have you?
At least Al is out on the front lines with the people, when have you seen the scum of Rush Limbaugh taking to streets and standing up for anything? he makes millions off of low self esteem whites, he gets them fired up while he sits behind his mic and take millions.

Real Athens

April 5th, 2012
7:52 pm

Linda why don’t you tell us how you really feel? It’s OK. You’re among the like minded.

Tom(Independent-Viet Vet)

April 5th, 2012
7:57 pm

It is a private club right? Let them admit whomever they want, it is none of the public’s or govt’s business? Doesn’t the NAACP or New Black Panther party restrict who it’s members are?

Tiberius - Your lightning rod of hate!

April 5th, 2012
8:15 pm

“This country was founded on equal opportunity. Constitutional medicine is equal opportunity”

Nelson, government was established to protect people from both excessive government and those who would take your life, liberty or property through the use of force or fraud.

Please explain to us what role government has in determining the membership of a private organization.

rivercard

April 5th, 2012
8:16 pm

Kyle,
Don’t often get a chance to agree with you, so I must take the chance to do so. I could care less about who the 1%’s invite to join them in rolling around in their piles of money. This is the kind of meaningless symbolism that some of my brethren on the left seem to so enjoy. In case they haven’t noticed there is a real war being waged on the rights of all women in this country.

Linda

April 5th, 2012
8:20 pm

gm@7:47, That’s a crock. Both ABC & NBC have admitted that they “edited” both visual & sound bites in their reporting. These were deliberate means by these corrupt media sources to incite violence by blacks, who were USED by the corrupt main stream media.
At least Al is on the front lines with the people? He’s there for his own personal agenda, not in the best interests of blacks. He is anti-black.
You & yours are being USED by black thugs who want nothing more than to prevent blacks from advancing out of poverty. As long as blacks are in poverty, Sharpton, Jackson, etc. are LEADERS!

Linda

April 5th, 2012
8:21 pm

Real@7:52, I did.

Tiberius - Your lightning rod of hate!

April 5th, 2012
8:36 pm

“In case they haven’t noticed there is a real war being waged on the rights of all women in this country.”

A contrived one, certainly.

rivercard

April 5th, 2012
8:43 pm

Tiberius – If you had to be penetrated with a wand before being allowed to post we would see how contrived you really thought it was.

Linda

April 5th, 2012
8:49 pm

rivercard@8:43, If you had to be given an IQ test before being allowed to post, you would not be here.

Linda

April 5th, 2012
8:54 pm

rivercard, Did Tiberius get the best of you? My goodness! Happy Good Friday tomorrow & may God bless you!

rivercard

April 5th, 2012
9:03 pm

Linda – Funny and typical someone as nasty, uninformed and vile as you invoking god.

Dave

April 5th, 2012
9:08 pm

Linda,
Your obsession with President Obama is not health, nor normal. NSA must be watching you, or should be.

Tiberius - Your lightning rod of hate!

April 5th, 2012
9:13 pm

rivercard, please provide any evidence whatsoever of your claim that women are being forced to be “penetrated with a wand” through actual, national GOP polices.

Any at all.

Any.

Dusty

April 5th, 2012
9:13 pm

Well, well, absolutely! Without a doubt! IF I ‘m not against it I must be for it. Now…..WHAT WAS THE QUESTION?

The Masters? Who’s head of the monastery? NO? Women? The mothers of humankind?

There’s a greater question to be answered here. Why would anyone WANT to play golf?

Let uis have a moment of silence, please. The Braves lost today. Maybe they should let women play! Nawwww….

tiredofIT

April 5th, 2012
9:20 pm

Some just need to feel special … just not that important in the scheme of things.

Linda

April 5th, 2012
9:22 pm

rivercard@9:03, I didn’t invoke God. It was our Founding Fathers who invoked God. Actually, it was the Pilgrims who invoked God. All our freedoms & rights came from God. Say your pledge of allegiance. Count your bills & coins. Try to take an oath.
Patriots are neither nasty, uninformed nor vile.
Happy Easter!

Liz

April 5th, 2012
9:24 pm

I personally wouldn’t want to join any club managed by Billy Payne. He embarrassed this state during the ‘96 Olympics. Could they have been any tackier?

Do you remember all those Georgia Open Records battles to obtain access to the records so that the public could look into those questionable gifts (some considered bribes)?

Linda

April 5th, 2012
9:31 pm

Dave@9:08, Actually, I wondered about that & I have decided that I would rather go to jail than give up my right to free speech. NSA, the IRS, etc. can watch me all they want to, but liberals like you will NOT ever intimidate me. Liberals like you just make me lay in wait for the next Tea Party meeting. Thank you for your motivation.

rivercard

April 5th, 2012
9:38 pm

Tiberius- Where did I say that women were being wanded due to national GOP policies? I didn’t, although I suspect the national GOP has no issue with the attempts of certain states to do so.
Those states happen to all be controlled by Republicans. Coincidence , I guess.

Dusty

April 5th, 2012
9:38 pm

Happy Easter to you, Linda. It is a wonderful season I hope you will enjoy the wonder that it brings.

Even my flowers seem to be celebrating. I still have camelias, petunias, some red roses and a few dogwood blooms left. Very special time.

td

April 5th, 2012
9:43 pm

Linda

April 5th, 2012
9:31 pm

I agree 100% with you Linda. I post the same things on my Facebook account as I do here. I also will tell the NSA or whoever is reading these blogs that when they come to get me for exercising my 1st amendment right they are going to have to pry my 2nd Amendment right out of my cold dead hand.

jconservative

April 5th, 2012
9:46 pm

FRom the AJC:
“Coca-Cola has cut ties with a conservative Washington group accused of supporting voter suppression — one with strong connections in Georgia’s Legislature — following an online petition and phone protests from activists.

The Atlanta-based beverage giant said Thursday it discontinued its membership with the American Legislative Exchange Council (ALEC),…”

Does this mean that the more “sensitive” members of the conservative movement will boycott Coke?

Me? I don’t drink the stuff at all. I could care less who Coke supports.

Tiberius - Your lightning rod of hate!

April 5th, 2012
9:47 pm

“Where did I say that women were being wanded due to national GOP policies?”

So, rivercard, then you admit your “war on women” comment was a lie? Or just an error?

Or is it simply contrived as I have stated?

Hillbilly D

April 5th, 2012
9:50 pm

Hillbilly D

April 5th, 2012
9:51 pm

I don’t drink the stuff at all. I could care less who Coke supports.

It’s good for cutting grease off a car windshield but don’t let it get on the paint.

rivercard

April 5th, 2012
9:52 pm

No it is being done at the state level as I said. The eleven states requiring unnecessary ultrasounds to have a simple cell clump removal procedure are not contrived.

Linda

April 5th, 2012
9:53 pm

Dusty@9:38, Augusta National would be jealous of my yard of azaleas that I planted myself years ago. They are breath-taking. Don’t want no golf balls in my yard. Happy Easter to you, too.

Dusty

April 5th, 2012
10:00 pm

My goodness, what’s this world coming to?

Women not members and not playing at the Masters! No Missuses?

Women not drinking Coca-Cola! Pepsi?

Women being attacked by “wands”!! Magic?

Billy Payne did a booboo at the Olympics? Hey, wait a minute! He’s not a woman! Oops!

Sorry. Off subject!!

Linda

April 5th, 2012
10:12 pm

td@9:43, ME, TOO! I’ll say right here to the NSA that my 1st amendment right is right next to my 2nd amendment right, but there’s a bunch of them both inside & outside of my home, in every vehicle, depending on my rights or my husband’s rights & our pet’s rights. That’s about as confusing as I can get.
Liberals think that sparklers work. I’ve got some of those, too, for children.

Dusty

April 5th, 2012
10:19 pm

HillBilly D 9:50

Thank you for the nice music. I enjoyed that. The video was a little hard to take ini places but the ending message is always our hope and joy.

Dusty

April 5th, 2012
10:24 pm

Linda,

My azaleas are blooming too. I forgot to mention them. Most of mine were once little shrubs I brought from Savannah that my father had rooted. Always nice memories connected to them.

Lil' Barry Bailout (Unexpectedly Revised Downward)

April 5th, 2012
10:30 pm

The Braves did nothing in the offseason and will be the same team they were last year…slightly above average pitching, zero offense.

Tiberius - Your lightning rod of hate!

April 5th, 2012
10:35 pm

“The eleven states requiring unnecessary ultrasounds to have a simple cell clump removal procedure are not contrived.”

So, can one have a “war” if one doesn’t have an organized action?

I do not think so.

Contrived.

Dusty

April 5th, 2012
10:36 pm

Aww come on, Lil Barry,

The Braves just couldn’t get warmed up in NYC. They need a nice spring day in Atlanta and off they will go. You’ll see.

Lil' Barry Bailout (Unexpectedly Revised Downward)

April 5th, 2012
10:41 pm

The Braves strategy every year is to hope that several of their retreads and low-rent players have the season of their lives, all at the same time.

Linda

April 5th, 2012
10:45 pm

Obama has weighed in on the Augusta National debate as to whether they should admit women or not. See my comment above.
What Obama does not understand is that all women can not be bribed to vote for him. He thinks that he can get votes for women by giving them free contraceptives. Is he a pimp? Those “free” contraceptives are used only by young women who don’t want to have kids. What about younger women & older women who aren’t covered by Obama’s charity?

What women want are:
shampoos & sets
haircuts
manicures & pedicures
massages
shoes
handbags
perfume
candy
flowers
maid service

Obama hasn’t even scratched the surface for swapping women’s votes for bribes.

Dusty

April 5th, 2012
10:48 pm

Well, let’s just say that many have potential and hope that many will have a great season. Now won’t that be fun? ( And a surprise!) Go Braves!!

G’nite…..

rivercard

April 5th, 2012
10:52 pm

Tiberius – Voting and passing a law seems like a fairly “organized ” action. Just because the “war” is being waged by Texas, VA, etc doesn’t make it any less of a “war”

Now that you mentioned it I should have simply said in many states there is an organized effort to infringe upon the rights of women. These states are controlled by Republicans and supported in their efforts by National Conservative Groups Using “war” might be a bit hyperbolic

I came here to agree with Kyle and still couldn’t get out clean. What was I thinking?

Tiberius - Your lightning rod of hate!

April 5th, 2012
11:04 pm

“Using “war” might be a bit hyperbolic”

Thank you for being open and honest. It’s the hyperbole that gets so many here on this blog into trouble on both sides.

rivercard

April 5th, 2012
11:08 pm

“. It’s the hyperbole that gets so many here on this blog into trouble on both sides.”
*********************************
Fair enough and agreed. Easy trap to fall into. Until next time………

td

April 5th, 2012
11:16 pm

I think Bill O’Reilly said it well tonight. Paraphrase: It is obvious to see that Obama is trying to build a coalition of the aggrieved.

In other words all the whiners of society are voting for Obama.

Linda

April 5th, 2012
11:23 pm

rivercard@10:52, You should have stopped digging while you were still in the hole.
There are No “states where there is an organized effort to infringe upon the rights of women,” especially “controlled by Republicans.” You are delusional at a minimum.

Linda

April 5th, 2012
11:44 pm

rivercard, Your tactics are the same as Obama’s. Women can see through you as if you as if you were a skeleton. Typical liberal! Liar & user!

Tiberius - Your lightning rod of hate!

April 5th, 2012
11:52 pm

Linda, I’ll take up for rivercard in one instance. There are, according to posts made on here, states which are trying to add intrusive examinations for women wishing to have abortions, clearly in an effort to dissuade them from doing so. And those efforts are being championed by Republicans.

Is it a “war on women”? No. But these efforts do go too far in my estimation towards invading the privacy women should have regarding their bodies.

Linda

April 6th, 2012
12:12 am

Tiberius, the Declaration of Independence, our Founding Fathers, said that God gave us the unalienable rights of Life, Liberty & the Pursuit of Happiness. What is is that liberals don’t understand about that life word?

What is more important: the body of the the child or the body of the woman who conceived that child? Whose rights are paramount?
What is more important: the property of the woman’s body or the property of a living child?

JKL2

April 6th, 2012
12:13 am

getalife- Lets all thank President Obama for saving our country from the w disaster

Who are we going to thank for saving us from the o disaster?

JKL2

April 6th, 2012
12:18 am

Kyle- Augusta National’s lack hitherto of female members

Where’s the presidential intervention? o luvs him some golf. Any excuse to avoid trying to do the job you were elected to do. Stick your nose in there and save them helpless females. We need someone to help these people…

Augusta National is obviously run by a bunch of evil racist Republican 1%ers. If there was ever a Demwit target, this ought to be ground zero because they meet every demographic the DNC hates.

Attack Dog

April 6th, 2012
5:40 am

The GOP say that they are not a war with women, but come November women are going to vote as if they are.

Attack Dog

April 6th, 2012
5:43 am

It’s pretty funny. President Obama has a better chance of joining Augusta National than 99.9% of all Dixiecrats and 100% of all women.

Lil' Barry Bailout (Revised Downward)

April 6th, 2012
6:02 am

No, Augusta National also has a policy prohibiting America-hating fascists.

Mary Elizabeth

April 6th, 2012
7:14 am

From MarkV: “. . . the restriction of the membership there to males only is an anachronism, and sooner or later it will change.”
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The Old South has been known for its long-standing paternalism, not only for African-Americans but for women. When I began teaching in 1970 in Georgia, for example, women teachers were not allowed to wear slacks in which to teach – which was common in NYC – unless they, also, wore a covering jacket, which had to extend downward below their hips. (I kid you not.) That paternalism had been common not only in the South, but also throughout the nation, until the early Twentieth Century, when women were finally granted the right to vote – decades after African-American men had been granted that right. However, paternalism has had an especially strong history in the South, and the remaining vestiges of it can be seen in present day decisions made by the Augusta Masters’ governing Board regarding women’s membership there.

Paternalism is, by its nature, hierarchial in worldview, not egalitarian. The world is rapidly moving toward an egalitarian vision of humanity, from a hierarchial one. The fact that the Augusta Masters has not already accepted the CEO of IBM, who happens to be a woman, as one of its members – especially since IBM is one of the sponsors of the Masters – is, as Mark V stated, anachronistic.

The correlation between the so-called “Top 1%” and the Augusta Masters’ view of women is that both share a hierarchial worldview of others, or a worldview that some are “more equal than others” based on a pecking order of either gender or money considerations, instead of an egalitarian worldview that all are inherently equal simply because all are human beings.

@@

April 6th, 2012
7:17 am

“The only thing worse than a man you can’t control is a man you can.”–Margo Kaufman

tiredofIT

April 6th, 2012
7:40 am

” Actually, it was the Pilgrims who invoked God.”

The pilgrims (puritans) were intolerant religious fanatics.

Tiberius - Your lightning rod of hate!

April 6th, 2012
7:54 am

“When I began teaching in 1970 in Georgia, for example, women teachers were not allowed to wear slacks in which to teach”

Nice try at attempting to show this practice was a result of the Old South, however, during the early 1970’s girls still had to wear skirts and boys still had to wear ties where I went to public school – in liberal Massachusetts!

Tiberius - Your lightning rod of hate!

April 6th, 2012
7:57 am

Linda, you and I will never agree on the abortion issue, but I’d like you to at least TRY to justify some of these new laws being created which require intrusive probing of women which have nothing to do with their health nor that of their fetus before the woman gets to make her decision.

Road Scholar

April 6th, 2012
8:23 am

If the head of IBM is not invited to join, I wonder if “someone” will take their computer system down during the broadcast!

Kyle, golf is wonderful. But it can be depressing, like trying to find a qualified conservative nominee for President, right?But we will continue on!

alex

April 6th, 2012
8:28 am

My dad took up golf at 80 when his knees could not tolerate any other “physical” activity. Boring “sport”, boring people…….zzzzzzzzzzz

carlosgvv

April 6th, 2012
8:30 am

What women want are; tall, handsome wealthy men.

That pretty much covers it all.

JDW

April 6th, 2012
8:38 am

Funny thing about this Virgina Rometty discussion…no one even asks is the woman a serious golfer? She is not so it wouldn’t make much sense for her to be a member of the top golf club in the world. If they choose to invite a woman it most likely will be Condoleezza Rice. She is a serious golfer and has acutally spent a bit of time at the club.

JamVet

April 6th, 2012
8:38 am

…during our era of demonizing “the rich” and “the 1 percent.”

There’s nothing like the smell of yellow journalism in the morning. Nothing.

It’s the smell of……………………… victory.

Maybe, I’ll go back and peruse the enraged, childish comments from your regular bigots and sexists, but I think I need to eat first!

LeeH1

April 6th, 2012
8:43 am

Now is a good time for IBM to quit paying for golf games. They should put their money into either profits for the stockholders, or to charities that actually help people, such as scholarships for computer and math majors in colleges.

Let the 1% pay their own way.

Tiberius - Your lightning rod of hate!

April 6th, 2012
8:45 am

Golf is the last sport on the planet which is left to the player to police him/herself. No referees, only officials there to help interpret the rules when a question is asked.

You keep your own score. You remain quiet when others are addressing the ball nearby. You don’t move ahead of the furthest ball away from the hole, making sure you are not a distraction for the other player.

You can learn a lot about the honor and integrity of your playing partners in just one round of golf. It remains a great business tool to get to know someone you might wish to do business with, or someone you would never do business with.

It’s a game where 95% of people who take it up and play it regularly will never be good at; that is, failing to break 100. Yet it is a sport that keeps them coming back because of that ONE SHOT they make almost every round that says, “I can play this game”.

Golf is 4 (or 5) hours in the fresh air in a quiet, outdoor setting. More people should play golf and just relax.

AU Liberal in ATL

April 6th, 2012
8:46 am

So another high profile, middle aged, white, male, married with children, republican has been caught dorking a young female “friend”. This one just happens to be the head coach at the University of Arkansas. No problem. Arky fans will forgive him because he has a pretty good winning record. Holy rollers will forgive him because he was banging a woman, not another man. The the Rush Limbaugh party will forgive him because he’s rich. I don’t need to forgive him because he didn’t do anything to me and I don’t really give a flaming fk what he does. Sorry, I got off on a tangent. What were we talking about here?

Tiberius - Your lightning rod of hate!

April 6th, 2012
8:47 am

“Now is a good time for IBM to quit paying for golf games.”

And as soon as you become CEO or a majority stockholder in IBM, you can make that decision, LeeH1.

Otherwise, you can just sod off as far as what IBM should do.

BuckeyeinGa

April 6th, 2012
8:49 am

Linda@5:39 Buckeye@5:16, My source? I gave you 3 sources & could produce more. Evidently you did not even read my sources. The last source quoted several folks from the main stream media. Clinton’s thesis was on Alinsky. Obama TAUGHT Alinsky tactics. They were both community organizers from Chicago. Obama would have never been elected had it not been for ACORN, community organizers.

You were shocked that Obama had ever even been associated with Alinsky. What have your sources of news been for the last 4 years? The book I quoted above was endorsed by Bill Ayers, the radical from whose home Obama launched his political career.

Obama speaks as a moderate, but his actions have absolutely nothing to do with his words, & if he is re-elected, both his words & his actions will coincide, for the first time.

I did read the sources which is why I pulled the statement from one of the sources YOU listed. As I mentioned the President ISN’T a disciple and neither is Hillary Clinton. The writings according to you is from Bill Ayers..It’s funny to see people try to make it seem there is more of a link there.

DavidEm

April 6th, 2012
8:51 am

Yes, they will allow women to be members, and possibly even in the 21st century. But it has to be THEIR idea, and on their timeline, so the world knows it had nothing to do with that nasty Progressivism Glenn Beck warned them about.
And, of course, their ancestors WOULD have voluntarily ended slavery, too, sooner or later, and without those pernicious abolitionists being so unpleasant and moralistic about it.

gm

April 6th, 2012
9:06 am

Linda

You & yours are being USED by black thugs who want nothing more than to prevent blacks from advancing out of poverty. As long as blacks are in poverty, Sharpton

Being used thats a laugh, Palin, Hannity, Rush are making millions off you right wing nut jobs, and they never have to rub elbows with you idiots to do it,
once unarmed blacks kids stop getting shot down, Al and Jessie could retire.

I know you are a out of touch like Mitt, but there are plenty blacks who are doing well and not on welfare and proverty the difference is those blacks care about other Americans.

@@

April 6th, 2012
9:09 am

Wasn’t directed at me, but what the hey…

Linda, you and I will never agree on the abortion issue, but I’d like you to at least TRY to justify some of these new laws…

It’s a personal responsibility thing. Women will either accept it or reject it.

It’s as simple as that.

Given the fact that PP argues lack of education/misinformation for many who become pregnant, full awareness should be their goal.

clyde

April 6th, 2012
9:10 am

Leave the membership at Augusta International alone.It’s a man thing.
Learn to live with it.

Tiberius - Your lightning rod of hate!

April 6th, 2012
9:10 am

gm, I have no issue with anyone, black or white, caring about other Americans.

I just don’t want them doing it with my money. It’s easy to care about someone else when you don’t have any skin in the game.

JoeFann

April 6th, 2012
9:21 am

Three quick points:
First, ANGC membership is their issue, and their choice.
Second, IF ANGC decides to offer membership to a female, I anticipate the first offer to be to a woman who has made tremendous contributions to the game of golf. After that, quietly, Ms. Rommety would likely also be offered.
Finally, one of the 5 best days of my life was spent several years ago with my 14 year old son at a Wednesday practice round and Par 3 tournament at ANGC. The beauty of the place. The grace and charm and goodwill of the staff and patrons. The family nature of the par 3 event. The wide-eyed wonder of a young man seeing it in person for the first time. The inspiration he gained to become a collegiate golfer. Many may pooh-pooh ANGC and what it “represents.” Count me out.
P.S. Apparently, Ian Poulter never got the memo about plaid being “out.” Long live absurd and colorful clothing on the links!

Happy and Blessed Easter to all!

Tiberius - Your lightning rod of hate!

April 6th, 2012
9:27 am

Some people are just not a slave to fashion, Joe.

Ian Poulter is certainly one of them. :)

BuckeyeinGa

April 6th, 2012
9:40 am

Callista Gingrich made comments about Augusta as well. She wants to become a member.

Road Scholar

April 6th, 2012
9:44 am

Tiberius @ 8:45- Exactly! Fore!

I hope your Easter holiday includes a round or two before watching the Masters each day. For those who don’t like golf, or feel they must get inebriated to play…stay home.

wallbanger

April 6th, 2012
9:58 am

Truthfully, the women who really matter, the ones who could afford the membership, and who would like to hob nob with the good old boys, don’t give a darn about this subject or the Masters. These women are too busy to be so petty, and have the good sense not to go where they know they aren’t wanted.

UGA 1999

April 6th, 2012
10:01 am

Did you guys see where Obama has commented on this subject. Doesnt he have enough to worry about? Fool!

Tiberius - Your lightning rod of hate!

April 6th, 2012
10:11 am

Technically, his chief dog-washer was asked about this, UGA 1999, not Obama himself.

@@

April 6th, 2012
10:15 am

Tiberius - Your lightning rod of hate!

April 6th, 2012
10:22 am

The more they say on this, the deeper the hole they keep digging, @@.

Mary Elizabeth

April 6th, 2012
10:25 am

“These women are too busy to be so petty, and have the good sense not to go where they know they aren’t wanted.”
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It is good that African-Americans did not hold that point-of-view during the 1960s.

UGA 1999

April 6th, 2012
10:33 am

Mary….really?

Mary Elizabeth

April 6th, 2012
10:44 am

” ‘When I began teaching in 1970 in Georgia, for example, women teachers were not allowed to wear slacks in which to teach.’

Nice try at attempting to show this practice was a result of the Old South, however, during the early 1970’s girls still had to wear skirts and boys still had to wear ties where I went to public school – in liberal Massachusetts.”
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Not a good analogy. I was addressing the situation for teachers. You were addressing the situation for students. Not the same. But in an odd way, the fact that your comparison was off, and that you did not recognize it, highlights the point that teachers were viewed only slightly above “children,” as demonstrated by their job descriptions of that era, which demeaningly described their attire in such detail as to require that their jacket lengths be a certain length in order to hide female anatomy. Criteria was even more paternalistic toward female teachers, in ways far beyond dress, in the early 1900s – throughout the nation.

zeke

April 6th, 2012
11:02 am

ANGC IS A PRIVATE MEMBER’S ONLY CLUB! AS SUCH IT CAN CHOOSE TO INVITE ANYONE IT DEEMS A BENEFIT TO THE CLUB! BY THE SAME TOKEN IT CAN DECIDE NOT TO INVITE A PARTICULAR PERSON FOR WHATEVER REASON! THE MASTER’S TOURNAMENT is not a PGA event, but, a special tournament considered one of the 4 majors on the pro golf schedule! Sponsored by many great companies, televised by ESPN, the Golf Channel, CBS! Just like the stupidity of forcing Arizona to make the mlk holiday to get a super bowl or the Birmingham club to admit blacks to get a tournament, trying to force ANGC to admit a woman, IS UNAMERICAN AND IF CHALLENGED PROBABLY NOT CONSTITUTIONAL! BUT WHAT DO YOU MORONS CARE ABOUT THE CONSTITUTION AND PRIVATE RIGHTS???

@@

April 6th, 2012
11:02 am

Tiberius:

The more they say on this, the deeper the hole they keep digging, @@.

That’s because they truly believe their “mandate” is superior to our Constitution.

Mary Elizabeth:

It is good that African-Americans did not hold that point-of-view during the 1960s.

Black Capitalism preceded the 1960s.

Read “Our Kind of People — Inside America’s Black Upper-Class” by Lawrence Otis Graham,

I’ll always remember a conversation I had back in the 1980’s with a well-known New York literary figure about the black families who own weekend homes at Sag Harbor. He had spied on them on the beach, he said, and he could report that though they acted snobbish, they still ate watermelon. This ugly little joke showed, I thought, how uncomfortable even many of the most liberal white Americans are made by the idea of well-to-do black people.

The ^^^ ugly truth about white liberals.

http://www.nytimes.com/books/99/02/21/reviews/990221.21leelt.html

UGA 1999

April 6th, 2012
11:04 am

@@….you are hilarious!

Mary Elizabeth

April 6th, 2012
11:31 am

@@,

I do not believe that you grew up in the Deep South, as I did, during the era of Jim Crow. There is no need for me to debate this issue. Those who shared that time, and that place, with me know the nature of the racial injustices that were so pervasive, as well as the more sublte, yet prevalent, gender inequities.

UGA 1999

April 6th, 2012
11:41 am

Self proclaimed Mega Millions winner “I uh lost the ticket” Right!

Mary Elizabeth

April 6th, 2012
11:44 am

The private rights/public arena Constitutional debate was settled in the 1960s by the courts, including the U.S. Supreme Court. For those who did not experience that era firsthand as I did, you may want read some of the history of that era through my reflections, entitled, “Egalitarianism and Capitalism.”

Link: http://maryelizabethsings.wordpress.com/2011/12/08/egalitarianism-and-capitalism/

Hillbilly D

April 6th, 2012
1:59 pm

The pilgrims (puritans) were intolerant religious fanatics.

In the interest of historical accuracy, the Pilgrims weren’t Puritans, they were Separatists and that was only about half of them. The Puritans didn’t come to the Massachusetts Colony until a few years later.

[...] everyone feels the club should move. “The club is a private organization, and it has as much right to stick to an all-male membership as the Boy Scouts have to accept only [...]

hryder

April 9th, 2012
7:39 pm

There is no issue of whom a private club invites to become a member. Only the members, possibly represented by an individual or group of individuals according to their by-laws, hold the power to invite others to join. If you do not like this tough. This is ultimately the law of the land. VOTE OUT ALL INCUMBENT ELECTED OFFICE HOLDERS IN THE NOVEMBER ELECTIONS.