Dear Mr. Blank: About that line about NFL teams owning their stadiums . . .

Given the local debate about using $400 million-plus in tax revenues to build the Falcons a new open-air stadium, I couldn’t help but notice this nugget from team owner Arthur Blank’s comments about the penalties handed down to the New Orleans Saints for that team’s bounty program (via Pat Yasinskas at ESPN.com):

“I think the league has handled it well and appropriately,” Blank said. “One of the other owners made this point, but I told the commissioner I totally agree with him, the NFL, outside of our stadiums, the only things we really own are our reputation, our integrity, our shield and the relationship and trust we have with our fans and our sponsors. Anything that’s done that violates that or hurts that, is something that has to be dealt with.” (emphasis added)

Only a handful of NFL teams own their own stadiums, and Blank’s angling for taxpayers to fund a new dream home for his team certainly doesn’t put him in line to join that exclusive club.

Or maybe he meant the Georgia World Congress Authority also owns the Falcons’ reputation, integrity, and relationship and trust with the team’s fans and sponsors? (That’s a joke, folks.)

– By Kyle Wingfield

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107 comments Add your comment

George Walton

March 28th, 2012
10:09 am

Good one Kyle.

Bart Abel

March 28th, 2012
10:19 am

No name-calling. This rule applies chiefly to other commenters.

That was an interesting thread the other day Kyle. I saw that you banned a person from your thread for “misrepresenting your words.”

You have three or four right wingers, maybe more, dominating your threads with name calling. I’ve been called an idiot, an a$$ hole, and on and on and on. Despite the above rule in your “Rules of Engagement,” you do nothing. No warning. No suspension. No ban. Nothing. In fact, you encourage it and join in by comparing me, a commenter, to people you don’t like.

But if somebody makes honest inferences you don’t agree with, which is what happened when you recently accused me of misrepresenting your words, then that person is banned?

It’s obvious that you have one set of standards for those who disagree with you on this blog, and a much, much lower set of standards for the right wingers dominating your threads. You’re a coward.

By the way, I didn’t break any rules by calling you that. The no name-calling rule applies to “other commenters.”

Kyle Wingfield

March 28th, 2012
10:25 am

Bart: I have banned as many people for name-calling on the right as I have on the left. Some of the ones on the right were banned before you showed up, but that doesn’t change the facts.

Logical Dude

March 28th, 2012
10:29 am

Having lived in San Diego and worked RIGHT NEXT to Qualcomm stadium, I have seen the struggles a city has to have a stadium.
Also in Atlanta, Blank has stated he needs a new stadium.

Guess what NFL Team owners. . . You are asking at the WRONG TIME. We are recovering from a recession, and there is no way to ask taxpayers to fund a new stadium when you have a perfectly good stadium already. If you want a new one, then FUND it with your own funds, and then rent it out for other events for the other 355 days of the year when it’s not being used.

K Thx Bi

JF McNamara

March 28th, 2012
10:46 am

@Bart,

I think he’s been fair. He can’t control that a few people sit here all day and jump on anyone with a contrarian opinion. I’ve just stopped reading the comments after I see the right wing idea police show up.

Also, No stadium. Use the Dome. It’s working fine. He can finance his own stadium and put all the luxury boxes he wants in it.

Kyle Wingfield

March 28th, 2012
11:23 am

Bart: I’m not going to let you threadjack this post. As is your habit, you’re seeing what you want to see and ignoring all else, and then complaining when someone calls you out on it. If you’re trying to get yourself banned in some bizarre fit of martyrdom, you’re on your way.

Noble Nilda

March 28th, 2012
11:26 am

Kyle,

I’m with Bart. Show some cajones and ban lil’ barry. He adds nothing to the discussion but disdain.

Tiberius - Your lightning rod of hate!

March 28th, 2012
11:27 am

5 out of 9 comments, and Bart Abel is focusing on rules, rather than the topic at hand.

Is there any way we can get the libs on here (hoping I haven’t broken one of Bart’s rules by labeling him :roll: ) to actually focus on the topic once in a while?

Now to the topic at hand, I’ve been to the Georgia Dome any number of times, and it’s a great venue. For something only 20 years old, it seems to be holding up rather well, imho. Heck, where I come from Fenway Park in Boston is celebrating their Centennial this year, so 20 years is kid’s stuff comparatively speaking.

Arthur Blank needs to do what other owners have done; field a competitive team, wait out the recession on his primary business, and then put money from both ventures into his own stadium when the time is right. It’s what Robert Kraft did in New England.

Noble Nilda

March 28th, 2012
11:32 am

Build it on the graveyard that is the streets of buckhead debacle.

JF McNamara

March 28th, 2012
11:34 am

I can’t decide if Tiberius – Your lightning rod of hate!’s comment about Bart Abel is ironic, sarcastic, or gloatful.

Rafe Hollister

March 28th, 2012
11:36 am

Blanks stadium idea is self serving and grandiose. It has no benefit to the city of Atlanta nor the state, long term. Sure the NFL will promise a Superbowl to help Blank, but that is a one and done deal.

We have a nice venue that is doing well, is comfortable, no bad seats, in good repair, and is almost paid for, stay there or build your own stadium, Arthur.

Kyle Wingfield

March 28th, 2012
11:36 am

Noble @ 11:32: A little small for a stadium, that tract of land.

sean Smith

March 28th, 2012
11:44 am

The falcons are a privately owned business, plain and simple. If they need a new building then they can pay for it. There are plenty of other things we tax payers could use $400 million on. First and foremost is a tax cut for the little guy…..

Will Blank next be wanting taxpayers to build him some new Home Depot stores?

Tiberius - Your lightning rod of hate!

March 28th, 2012
11:49 am

“I can’t decide if Tiberius – Your lightning rod of hate!’s comment about Bart Abel is ironic, sarcastic, or gloatful.”

Or maybe all of the above! :D

My talent knows few bounds . . .

@@

March 28th, 2012
11:59 am

Only thing the NFL owns are potatoes of the couch variety.

I’ve been called an idiot, an a$$ hole, and on and on and on.

I’ve been called worse from the left side. My suggestion?

Put your big girl panties on or I’ll have to call you Bart UNable.

schnirt & SHEESH!!!!

Tiberius - Your lightning rod of hate!

March 28th, 2012
12:09 pm

Hey, Kyle! I’ve been called a Republican. Can I complain? :D

Becky

March 28th, 2012
12:14 pm

Kyle-didn’t you endorse Noot? How is that working for you, wink wink??? Aren’t you even going to address his downfall on the book tour?

Don't Tread

March 28th, 2012
12:15 pm

Time for Mr. Blank to put his money where his mouth is and fund his own stadium, which he will then own. But the reputation and integrity part is another matter entirely.

Kyle Wingfield

March 28th, 2012
12:25 pm

Intown

March 28th, 2012
12:25 pm

Kyle: I agree that taxpayer funding of an unnecessary new football stadium deserves your scrutiny. And I’m coming from the center-left. The GA Dome is doing just fine. No need to spend hundreds of millions chasing the latest trends in football stadiums.

Tiberius - Your lightning rod of hate!

March 28th, 2012
12:32 pm

Our local rep (Mike Dudgeon) filed a bill in the House this year to ban government funds for a new stadium.

We need more like him.

Becky

March 28th, 2012
12:41 pm

So I am, thanks. Yor column usually doesn’t interest me at all.

Tiberius - Your lightning rod of hate!

March 28th, 2012
12:45 pm

“Yor column usually doesn’t interest me at all.”

Yet you seem to have no issue with charging into a completely unrelated topic to attack the host.

Interesting way to get attention, if nothing else, Becky. :roll:

HDB

March 28th, 2012
1:00 pm

SInce we all know that we (taxpayers) can’t afford to build a new stadiun….why doesn’t Arthur Blank refurbish the one we HAVE to make it the way he desires?? The Dome is a good facility with good transportation access…great sightlines for a game….and as many have said…almost paid for!!

Now if we can get better food on the field and upper levels……

Dusty

March 28th, 2012
1:05 pm

Well, I don’t want taxpayers funding any new stadiums. When the retired Falcons start demanding money from Mr. Blank for their brain damage, he won’t have the money to build one either.. (I don’t like football and other skull cracking games.)

But let us not be despondent. I suggest we fill our current stadium with water as the new RESERVOIR! The Falcons could be called the Tadpoles.. The phoenix would be a duck rising from the water.!. New Atlanta logo: Water Wonder for Winners! or No Drips Allowed!,,,

I await the call from Mr. Blank

(Sorry, Kyle! It is such a nice day I can’t stay seriously on subject!)

@@

March 28th, 2012
1:06 pm

Off-topic….couldn’t resist.

CNN) — If anyone is comfortable speaking openly and boldly about women’s bodies, it’s Eve Ensler. The playwright and activist behind “The Vagina Monologues” has been at it for years.

So when she watches American politics of late — especially the conversations swirling around women’s reproductive rights — she feels both amused and vindicated.

“The vagina has become so real, so present, so powerful that people are going after it directly,” she said. “It’s evidence that we’re winning.”

Men have always gone after it. The problem, as I see it, is women don’t view it as a commodity. One of those rare instances, where the liberal woman supports free trade.

schnirt

George Walton

March 28th, 2012
1:14 pm

Real men “go after it”.
AKA Ron Paul supporters.
.
Not to sure Obama/Romney supporters are interested in the Va-jay-jay.
.
See Metro-sexuals or Kyle Wingfeild.

Ragnar Danneskjöld

March 28th, 2012
1:37 pm

Amusing irony shown by the essay – illustrates well the pervasive “corporatist” mentality in our culture. Don’t know if friend Bart has gotten the message, but the unwritten rule is that we comment thoughtfully on the essay before allowing the random circuits in our brain to hijack the topic.

Ragnar Danneskjöld

March 28th, 2012
1:40 pm

Friend @@ reminds me why I so fervently support free trade. In fact I get excited thinking about it.

Road Scholar

March 28th, 2012
1:50 pm

Sorry, but I comprehend “…outside of our stadiums..” as outside our immediate area of conducting our sport. Inside the stadiums are the equipment, locker rooms, corp offices,etc. and outside is the pr, advertisements, community volunteering…Things done outside of the sport .

Kyle Wingfield

March 28th, 2012
2:06 pm

Road: Hmmm…maybe so. Strikes me as kind of an odd way to put it, but that’s at least a plausible alternative explanation.

Amy Smith

March 28th, 2012
2:16 pm

Dear Mr. Wingfield,

My husband and I are subscribers to the print edition of the AJC and readers of the blogs: Jay Bookman, Kyle Wingfield, Political Insider, Get Schooled, and other portions of this site. I don’t usually comment, but I frequently read the threads as well.

Today, I feel compelled to comment. I’m a political independent who is tries to keep up with and understand the issues. I actually used to enjoy your almost daily debates with your regular visitor, CJ. He had also been a regular on Jim Wooten’s blog before you arrived. He (or she) was always passionate, sometimes vehemently so. He was sometimes blunt, sometimes right, and sometimes wrong. However, unlike many of your regulars, he was never vulgar or mean spirited. I had wondered why he suddenly disappeared, and I was surprised to learn today that you permanently banned him from your site for “misrepresenting your words.”

Now, by threatening to ban Bart Able at 11:23 for complaining about a double standard, you have actually proven Bart Able’s point. You subsequently reiterated that point by allowing the “put your big girl’s panties on” comment at 11:59 to stand. You reiterate that point everyday by ignoring comments from “Lil’ Barry” and others which seem to be mean spirited for the thrill of being mean spirited.

As a long time reader, it’s painfully obvious to me that you do allow the regular commenters who agree with you to get away with murder, while the regular commenters who disagree with you have to walk on eggshells in order to save themselves from your wrath.

Well, you don’t have to worry about banning me. Because we’ve decided to ban you. More broadly, we’re banning the AJC for letting a biased, thin-skinned, immature young man decide who gets to comment on their site and who doesn’t. In other words, we won’t be renewing our subscription; we won’t be buying any more print editions; we’ll find a way to get our local news, sports, and opinion elsewhere.

Sincerely,

Amy Smith

arnold

March 28th, 2012
2:29 pm

Win some, lose some. Some don’t matter.

I am against public funding for a new stadium. Unless, of course, the public receives an appropriate financial return on its’ investment. A percentage of the GROSS receipts equal to the percentage of the investment.

JohnnyReb

March 28th, 2012
2:32 pm

T-SPLOST and a new FALCONS STADIUM

Billy

March 28th, 2012
2:36 pm

It will be interesting to watch what happens to Kyle when the new editor of the ajc realizes what a buffoon he is. Will he be able to afford or even get health insurance for the new child?

sheepdawg

March 28th, 2012
2:38 pm

Good article kyle, no public funding for stadiums. Now attack speaker ralston, the despicable chip rogers, the deplorable tommy williams, governor crook, and the rest of the state idiots making our state the laughing stock of the nation

Tiberius - Your lightning rod of hate!

March 28th, 2012
2:44 pm

Personally, I think we’ll be seeing Amy Smith on this blog in the future, just under a different name. :D

sheepdawg

March 28th, 2012
2:50 pm

ban em all kyle, then your ego won’t be bruised and your job will be easier

sheepdawg

March 28th, 2012
2:52 pm

BRAVO AMY SMITH

sheepdawg

March 28th, 2012
2:52 pm

you probably made him cry

sheepdawg

March 28th, 2012
2:53 pm

typical republican

JohnnyReb

March 28th, 2012
2:54 pm

Billy – I started posting on Bookman’s blog about three years ago and found it enjoyable even though most there had a different idiology. I learned some things from the exchanges and even softened my position on one or two.

Now, some of the old regulars on Bookman’s blog don’t both to post because of the people there spewing crap like your 2:36 post. If you don’t like Kyle’s blog, go over to Bookman or elsewhere, no one has you chained here. Plus, Kyle is a conservative; what opinion did you expect to find here?

Lastly, the new AJC editor is working very hard to pull the paper from the hard Left, in case you have not noticed. For example, the Sunday hardcopy now has a political cartoon to counter Lukovich. In short, you do not know of what you speak/write.

Hillbilly D

March 28th, 2012
2:59 pm

I’d have to nit pick you on this one, Kyle. For all intents and purposes, the NFL owners do own their stadiums, they just get somebody else to pay for them.

DannyX

March 28th, 2012
2:59 pm

“Bart: I’m not going to let you threadjack this post.”

Of course not, that job belongs to @@, Ragnar, and Tiberius, along with Barry and I Report when they are around.

Bart, your comments this morning are right on the mark.

Tiberius - Your lightning rod of hate!

March 28th, 2012
3:03 pm

Before all you libs like Amy and sheepdawg get your panties in a wad, remember that Kyle wasn’t threatening Bart Abel with banning for disagreeing with Kyle or calling people names.

He was threatening to ban Bart Abel for NOT STICKING TO THE TOPIC AT HAND!

Which appears to be what you libs specialize in – thread hijacking and veering off-topic when you can’t defend the one Kyle posts.

Now here’s a few suggestions:

1. It’s Kyle’s blog and HE decides the topics – NOT YOU!
2. If you don’t like the topic – DON’T COMMENT ON IT!
3. If you disagree with the topic – POST SOMETHING IN OPPOSITION TO IT – NOT an insult to Kyle or to those who agree with him!
4. If you do attempt to hijack the topic, understand you’re going to be called out on it if it doesn’t meet with Kyle’s approval – SO STOP WHINING!
5. And butch it up a bit on here, liberals. You’re way too sensitive for intelligent discussion.

sheepdawg

March 28th, 2012
3:04 pm

jay runs an intelligent blog about real issues, this one is for the hate mongers and racists gop’ers

Tiberius - Your lightning rod of hate!

March 28th, 2012
3:04 pm

DannyX, don’t let facts get in the way of a good cry.

Tiberius - Your lightning rod of hate!

March 28th, 2012
3:06 pm

Then why are you here, sheepdawg?

And after spending a LOT of time over at Bookman’s, his bloggers intelligence level couldn’t meet room temperature on most days, save about a half dozen over there.

sheepdawg

March 28th, 2012
3:06 pm

Becky – he voted for moon doggie noot, nuff said

JohnnyReb

March 28th, 2012
3:18 pm

sheepdawg

March 28th, 2012
3:04 pm

jay runs an intelligent blog about real issues, this one is for the hate mongers and racists gop’ers
_________________________

I have to echo Tiberius’ 3:04 – why are you here?

Bookman has allowed his blog to be populated by a bunch of hard left idiologs that are blinded from reality, and he’s not far behind. They think only they are correct on any subject.

I have virtual crying towels ready for them; two supplies: one for the SCTOUS decision on Barrycare, and another supply for late November.