Was Komen’s decision ‘political’? Only because Planned Parenthood can’t have it any other way (Updated)

“Strong job growth: Employment up 243,000″

We are back.

Thank you President Obama.

Four more years!

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Yet another man spouting his hate for women’s health clinics. There are like a millions pathetic pro-Komen-hate-PP articles out there today. EVERY ONE written by a man. And an ugly man, too.

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The era of Medical McCarthyism has begun. When fundraising for medical causes becomes politicized as the leaders of Susan B. Komen have just done, everybody loses.

The right wing’s complete overreaction to everything they do not like reminds me of the little child who doesn’t like it when the food on their plate touches, like when their beans are touching their potatoes.

These extremists want everything to be so neat and clean and pure, but life simply isn’t like that, it’s messy. We live in a community, an ecosystem made up of things we might not like all mixing together.

To insist that thousands of health organizations and their funding and policies all meet some extremist litmus test or else be given the death penalty is the ultimate death panel. As a result of this new front in the culture wars, people will likely suffer, and some may die all because some zealot decided to embrace Medical McCarthyism.

As the right wing attempts to eliminate or cleanse Planned Parenthood of all types of contraception, the question is who is next? The answer is, everything, and everybody. No one is exempt.

- John Small, New York

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How revelatory that NOT ONE REPUBLICAN Senator contacted Susan Komen to protest its irrational decision to cut off funding to Planned Parenthood!! Not ONE. They are apparently happy to see poor women, who can’t afford access to breast examinations, die from neglect of the condition. Maybe they realize that these women (if they vote at all), mostly vote Democrat. So they are disposable, in the eyes of the Mad Dog Republicans fringe that has taken over a once-respectable political party.

– HIggsBoson2, reader, The Washington Post

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“However, anyone who knows me personally would tell you that I am an advocate for women’s health,” the statement said. “I have dedicated my career to fighting for the rights of the marginalized and underserved. And I believe it would be a mistake for any organization to bow to political pressure and compromise its mission.”

– Ms. Mollie Williams, Former managing director of community health programs at the Komen foundation, who departed this month, just weeks after the decision on the funds. She was responsible for overseeing the distribution of $93 million to more than 2,000 community health organizations.

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I am not sure why it is anyone’s business how Komen spends its money. You can quit giving money to it if you don’t like what it does with the money. In fact, if you are charitable, you might consider strongly funding something like the Crohn’s and Colitis Foundation, which is horribly underfunded given the numbers of people who have to live with this, literally, gut-wrenching disease every day of their lives.

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How about telling the truth for once, Mr. Wingfield (something you and your right-wing ilk are consistently unable to do.

Why hasn’t Komen pulled funding for other organizations under investigation (Penn State University and Parkland Hospital in Dallas, to name just two)?

You failed to mention the bullying tactics Komen has demonstrated over the years? Why is that?

You failed to mention that Komen is a BPA denier, despite the fact that over 150 respected scientific organizations have proven there is a BPA-cancer link? Odd, considering Komen is supposedly a leader in the fight against cancer.

Want more? Let me know. Just please tell the truth for a change.

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Weak, Kyle. Really weak.

At least the Right could earn some respect by owning up when it acts on its beliefs (see: Mitt Romney’s evolving explanation for his “very poor” comment). But no, they act, then when called out on their callousness/greed/utter lack of human compassion, the dissembling begins.

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Your question assumes a nonpolitical *decision* to end PP funding in the first place. Which–c’mon, let’s keep it reall–does not exist in this situation. First give me a nonpolitical reason to do it, and I’ll give you the explanation

Bullseye!

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More good news.

Komen caves restores funding for PP.

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We are back,

cons don’t know what they are talking about.

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http://jezebel.com/5881802/an-accounting-of-komens-staggering-financial-hypocrisy

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If the reason given to the Washington Post, which I mentioned in my OP, had been the first statement made by Komen, would you have accepted that as apolitical?

Sure, I would have accepted it … if it weren’t so bloody clear they were LYING, Kyle. Please note they didn’t exactly stick to that initial reason. Doesn’t the fact that they’ve had, what? Three explanations now? Doesn’t that raise some red flags for you?

Look you raise good points on many issues, and I’m glad the AJC gives you a forum. But are you seriously going to contend this decision was not politically motivated? Please give us more credit than that, because even you don’t believe it.

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The vast majority of people who work their butts off to raise money for SGK are women.

The vast majority of people using PP’s services are women.

Seems like a really bad marketing decision, regardless of whether they backtrack.

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ByteMe….Who said they are going to reverse the decision. They aren’t!

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The statement calls the backlash over the decision to cut the funding “unsettling,” and says that the organization will “amend the criteria to make clear that disqualifying investigations must be criminal and conclusive in nature and not political.”

“We will continue to fund existing grants,” the statement says, “including those of Planned Parenthood, and preserve their eligibility to apply for future grants, while maintaining the ability of our affiliates to make funding decisions that meet the needs of their communities.”

See, Kyle? Wasn’t what you said the reason was for cutting PP’s funding.

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ByteMe….Who said they are going to reverse the decision. They aren’t!

They did, silly.

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… or are we moving on to the poll position question now?

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Congratulations, Planned Parenthood: You’ve officially turned a leader in breast cancer research into another of your subordinates.

Please. Are you seriously contending that Planned Parenthood orchestrated the backlash over the past two days?!? What a joke, but so very typical. Whenever the public is clearly–CLEARLY–opposed to something the Right wants, then there must be some conspiratorial wizard behind the curtain pulling all those voters’ strings.

This decision was Komen was tremendously, *tremendously* unpopular, and they “caved” to the will of the vast majority of their supporters. But I’m sure Planned Parenthood somehow found the resources to contact >80% of the women in this country to spur them to action.

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.Not all women are for supporting a company that is under investigation. Also not all women are pro-choice.

Well, apparently those women (and you, and guys like Kyle) got a good solid kick square in the teeth and will have to find another group to hijack. That’s what happens when a charitable organization jumps on the bandwagon with a few screaming outsiders.

Need a hanky? Sorry, seem to have misplaced mine. It’s probably somewhere around your check to the “Koman” Foundation.

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Mr. Wingfield,

De-politicizing the decision to back off funding of Planned Parenthood is a failure of communications strategy. There’s a way that Komen could have done this that would have been above board and respectful by all parties.

1. Open a dialogue with supporters about Planned Parenthood. Communicate the struggle with aligning with an organization and publicize the findings. Surveys, public forums. etc. Create an open dialogue. Sure, it’ll hurt, but it will be transparent.

2. Communicate clearly and honestly how de-funding Planned Parenthood is in line with Komen’s mission. To me, this was a critical mistake. Their mission is what’s causing the uproar. Instead. Komen relied on a new rule and partnering criteria, which is red tape to most people and came across as dishonest.

3. If the org still wants to sever its partnership with PP, then announce that the end of the relationship will be a gradual one over the course of the next three years. The idea here is that Komen could acknowledge that its funding was important to an org that supports women, and that it’s still doing right by its mission.

4. As this announcement takes place, immediately announce a new partnership with another organization that everyone can agree on.

5. Continue open dialogue and transparency about the decision-making process and the path forward.

6. Communicate that the decision was not an easy one, but one that had to be made in order to avoid turning breast cancer into a political issue.

See…not so hard.The big problem though is would Komen for the Cure be honest about why it ended the relationship. It all starts with an honest accounting of why they wanted to end the relationship. Without that, there is no way Komen can effectively communicate its position. And I think that’s what we’re seeing now, an organization that’s not open and comfortable enough with the true reason, which only leads to obfuscation and avoidance, which only leads to more distrust.

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Disingenuity…..Congratulations….You win the award for most ignorant poster of the day!

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John….Murder is a political issue.

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ByteMe….Breast Cancer is somehow only delegated to partisan advocasy organizations? Wow that is interesting.

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Kyle: again, you’re not being truthful, re: Karen Handel. She was labeled “extremely liberal” because she had the audacity to agree that abortion was OK ONLY in cases of rape and incest (something which I’m sure you know). Additionally, she also allowed passthrough of federal funding for PP and other federally funded programs, as almost every conservative state official has done since Obama has been in office (while crying about how much they opposed that funding). Again, for once, just be truthful!

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UGA 1999,

In case you haven’t heard…abortion is a legal right in this country.

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Kyle: You should be publicly flaying Karen Handel over this. Don’t bother pointing to the Komen folks claiming she wasn’t involved (what do you expect them to say?). Komen was doing good work and raising lots of $$$ for research, and now there are many, many people who will never donate to them again–those on the left for making this political decision in the first place, and now many on the right for not standing behind said political decision until the end of days.

Way to go, Karen! You have fun at the next Komen Christmas party.

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John…..Really? Why are late term abortions banned?

Legal does not equal right.

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Respectfully, Mr. Wingfield, this blog entry sounds like you’re starting with an established viewpoint, and modifying your presentation of the facts to fit it. Among other things, you are accepting the Komen for the Cure mouthpieces’ talking points uncritically.

First, there was no mention that three clinics would remain grantees (that funding was being lessened, rather than removed entirely) until well after the scandal had snowballed. The same applies to their claim that the open Congressional investigation was not the sole or primary motivator, and that the distinction between pass-through and direct mammography grants was a factor. Why would you consider these additions to the narrative, made when the organization was already in deep crisis, to be the more genuine explanation of their decision-making process?

Secondly, throughout this scandal I have seen no indication that the Komen foundation’s modified policies have affected any other grantee, even where it perhaps should. Komen’s donation to a medical school affiliated with Penn State, for example, appear to break policy while the parent institution remains under federal investigation for misbehavior related to the Jerry Sandusky scandal. As the Bible states: “Each tree is known by its own fruit.”, and “Even a child is known by his actions.” Similarly, the intent of Komen’s new policy or policies can best be judged by the sole obvious effect: substantially ending their association with Planned Parenthood. That ostensibly generalized policies can be applied with such specific effect reminds me of nothing so much as laws mandating voter “literacy tests” in the segregated south: despite their generalized language, “grandfather clauses” and uneven enforcement ensured they were predominantly used to disenfranchise black people.

There are now at least two sourced articles confirming the new policies were specifically crafted to target the Komen foundation’s ties to Planned Parenthood. This one includes a statement from a foundation official who reportedly resigned in protest. The statement does not directly confirm the information in the article, but is notable for its affirmation of the women’s health cause, and lack of anything approaching a denial of the article’s claims.

The Komen foundation claims that the decision was not politicized, and that Planned Parenthood was not targeted for the controversy it generates in some quarters. The targeted effect of the foundation’s policies, their shifting response to the crisis, and these sourced articles strongly suggest otherwise. The facts are now in dispute. If the apolitical motives expressed by the foundation are truly genuine, documentation in support, such as board meeting minutes and emails in which the policy was discussed, would go a long way toward defusing the crisis. That the foundation has neglected to offer such documentation even this far into the crisis is telling.

And finally, the Komen foundation’s claim that they are forgoing mere “pass-thru” screening services for direct relationships with mammography providers does not hold up well under scrutiny. Yes, all women should perform regular self-exams, but not all women do; and of those who do, not all are sufficiently educated and discerning to recognize an abnormality for themselves.

And even when a woman performs a breast self-exam and discovers an abnormality, do you think for a moment that the woman goes directly to a hospital or specialized oncology practice to demand a mammogram? No; If they have insurance and a doctor, they schedule an urgent care appointment. If they lack insurance, they go to a clinic. If they lack funds to go to a for-profit clinic, the poorest of the poor end up at places with the resources and moral conscience to provide free or reduced-cost care: places like Planned Parenthood.

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UGA 1999,

In Roe v Wade, the Supreme Court ruled women have the RIGHT to safe legal abortions.

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“In Roe v Wade, the Supreme Court ruled women have the RIGHT to safe legal abortions.”

Killing babies is safe?

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“Let this be a warning to any group thinking of teaming up with Planned Parenthood in the future”

Why anyone would want to team up with baby killers is beyond me.

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Do what??? amen!

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“We Want to Apologize To The American Public”

Stop the war on babies Dems!

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UGA 1999

Libs are all giddy that unemployment is down to 8.3%. What’s even funnier is the fact that none of them know anything about how the economy works.

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Yep, we’ve gotta make sure all of those helpless babies keep getting murdered…………..

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Do What…..agreed, they also do not realize that that number is not the true unemployment number.

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Really? The whole point of the outcry over Komen’s original decision was that pro-life vs. pro-choice (or pro-abortion, as you so tactfully put it) shouldn’t enter into the discussion about breast cancer screening, or breast health education, or other breast health services. Komen is not obligated to fund PP until the end of time; PP has an obligation to meet their end of the deal. If they misuse funds, or don’t provide a needed service, or don’t provide access for HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF WOMEN who otherwise would not be able to have these life-saving screenings, then no one would fuss. What happened, rather, was that a new, seemingly arbitrary rule that just so happened to only cut off the funding to 1 of 2000 grantees was identified as the reason for the breakaway, and SGK, in a public relations nightmare, tried to play the “Our hands are tied” card.

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” HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF WOMEN who otherwise would not be able to have these life-saving screenings”

Ever heard of the free health clinic? Yeah, it’s free as are lots of free screenings for women.

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Err .. did you not read the rest of the sentence?

Err, yes, and your idea that it was a “small” group is not supported. Though I guess anything can be said to start with a small group. But if that group grew enough for Komen to reverse their decision so quickly, it’s not like a small group of agitators instigated the reversal. Maybe my take as a middle-class woman is not the same, because being inside the demographic I realize it’s not small. Ignored, maybe, but certainly not small.

Way to go, Karen! You have fun at the next Komen Christmas party.

You owe me a screen cleaner.

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Komen’s mistake was first saying that the decision was because PP was under investigation. That was dumb. All Congressional investigations are political. That joined the Komen decision to drop funding for PP to a political action by Congress. That made the Komen decision a political decision.

Komen should have simply said that for the future they were only going to fund outside organizations that did the complete mammograms under their roof. They could then list a few PP sites along with others. A few months later list a few more.

Then they made a mistake in hiring a partisan political as an officer.

Bottom line is that “anti pro choice” (is that the correct code word) people are on the wrong side of history. I am pro life but I live in the real world.

Today in the United States abortion is a Constitutional right. That may change, but only after women lose the right to vote.

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Kyle, You are right, the pro-abortion folks are behind this. I have never donate money to SGK but I never knew they funded PP. I will never donate money to them, now that I know they have been and will continue to be in the pro-abortion business. PP doesn’t save lives, it kills lives (innocent lives)

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Looks like this was done in the first place so “somebody” can run for Governor again!

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You can tell the tone of the article by the first sentence:

“Well, the pro-abortion folks’ politicization of this decision had its intended effect”

Kyle Wingnut – I have never met a PRO-ABORTION person in my life. ONe that feels we need more abortions, that women should get pregnant just so they could have an abortion, that abortions are good and we should strive for as many as possible. Lots of people are PRO-CHOICE, and lots ar ANTI-ABORTION, but NO ONE is pro-abortion. That is an inflammatory way of referring to people, right up there with BABY-KILLERS and MASS MURDERERS! I realize that for abortion opponents, their OPINION is that it is murder, but the opinion of many PRO-CHOICE people ( and the law of the U.S. is that it is NOT murder). It is a LEGAL and SAFE operation (up through the second trimester). I could have the OPINION that soldiers killing people in Iraq and Afganistan are MURDERERS and should be put to death when they return home, but that is just my opinion, since the LAW says they are not.

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Kyle, I really don’t understand your question about finding an apolitical way to defund. If your reason legitimately had to do with investigations, then stick to it! But also, make good and sure Penn St does not have a single dime while they are being investigated for the abuse of children there! I don’t have a problem if someone believes what they believe, but don’t pee on me and tell me its raining!

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Thank goodness women were not denied their right to murder unborn children.

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Ha ha ha ha ha. Take that, you anti-choice wackos.

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Kyle — “the pro-abortion folks”

The who, now?

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And I didn’t bother to scan the comments before posting @ 12.30, but I think it’s worth repeating. I don’t call those who are trying to re-criminalize abortion “pro-slavery folks”, even though I personally believe that forcing women to carry every pregnancy to term against their will is just another form of involuntary servitude.

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Hey Kyle, I’m not pro-abortion, Its called pro- CHOICE for a reason.

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My $100 donation to Planned Parenthood and my letter to the executive director of Komen Atlanta requesting her to remove my name from all Komen mailing lists and informing her that I will no longer donate to SGK nor participate in the Race for the cure this morning is apolitical as well.

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Dirty Harry

“but as long as it’s somebody else it’s okay, right?………Coward!”

Based on that comment, I guess it is safe to say that you have personally adopted numerous children. You should be commended

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…” They are apparently happy to see poor women, who can’t afford access to breast examinations, die from neglect of the condition…..

Didn’t you post earlier about the right wing over reacting? Poor women have access to care through Medicaid. It’s one of the reasons we run large deficits in this country.

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Kyle

Thanks for the change and willingness to do so

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Dirty Harry & all the rest – some cells that may one day grow into a baby, does not equal a baby.

I’ll stay out of your doctor’s visits, you stay out of mine.

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Looks like the left are energized this cycle.

The gop attacked every voting group like they are trying to lose.

The gop deserve to lose.

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It’s not ‘political’ unless it’s the right wing doing it? Obviously the double-standard was applied when the pro-abortionists ‘leaned on’ the right people to reverse this decision. Well, now there needs to be a boycott by the social conservatives: no more pink attire, slogans, promotions or financial support. They did it to themselves.
MY money, MY choice! No more supporting by this WOMAN of organizations who support murder of babies PERIOD.

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TBS, Not numerous, only one so far…….but, hey, keep calling it “choice” to keep your mind off of the pain that’s being inflicted on an innocent, unborn child.

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Well, Kyle sure has brought out all the hate driven left wingers that reside in the public libraries of Atlanta.

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DH

I do applaud you for adopting a child. Hope it has worked out for the child and your family.

With that said, all you condescending nastiness isn’t going to change anyone’s mind……….”but hey keeping calling” people names if you think it makes you a better person or somehow superior

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Good essay, and even better update. Komen is caught in the toxic tar baby that is Planned Parenthood.

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The extremists on BOTH sides of this issue have made it political, but I suggest the truth lies somewhere in between.

Komen has a policy to not fund organizations under investigation – true. Therefore they had a legitimate reason to back away support for PP until such investigations have been completed. The source of the investigations – Congress – is irrelevant, even if their motive is political.

Could it have been a convenient excuse for the decision to suspend funding to PP? Of course. But that would have meant that everybody in the decision-making process at Komen (or at least a solid majority) were in the tank for the anti-abortion crowd. I have seen no such evidence that has happened.

Now, to reverse their decision? THAT is definitely a political decision (as well as a monetary one), because the extreme forces on both sides of the abortion issue made it one. It is a sad case of the tail wagging the dog, especially considering the nature of this useless battle.

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Kyle, you really dont research at all huh? Just repeat talking points from FauxNews? Why didn’t you have the forethought to look up the list of current Komen grantees and check to see if Planned Parenthood was the only one that fell under that so-called “new” policy? Why not check to see if they were consistent in this policy?

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TBS, sorry about the name-calling, but it makes me angry when people hide behind the word “choice” to dispose of innocent human beings who had no choice in the matter whatsoever.

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So much for freedom of association in this country. The liberal bedwetters are so full of vitriolic hatred for individual freedom that they will tar and feather anyone that disagrees with them.

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To see the truth of my earlier post, just note how many times these words have been used in this blog in association with abortion:

killing
murder
massacre
unborn child
baby killer
killing babies

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Well Dirty Harry, that’s really too bad for you. I’m Pro-Choice – and you can turn all red, beat your keyboards, hurl profanities, cry, growl, curl up in a corner, fall all out on the floor in a tantrum…whatever floats your boat…i’m still pro-choice.

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“Instead, you move the goal posts and give it a different name. Lib = progressive, pro-abortion = pro-choice.”

I am morally against abortion, but I still support the right to choose. Pro-choice is not all synonymous with pro-abortion.

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Oh, I missed one:

Innocent human beings

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Komen has a policy to not fund organizations under investigation – true. Therefore they had a legitimate reason to back away support for PP until such investigations have been completed.

Yeah, that’s why they cut their funding to Penn State. Oh, wait, they didn’t. What was that legitimate reason again?

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I for one am tired of hearing the term “Pro-Abortion”. We are Pro-Choice. It is my body. It is my decision on whether an abortion is the right answer. It’s none of your d*mn business.

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We are Pro-Choice.

I think anti-Criminalization is better, myself, since that’s what is at stake here (much as the “pro-lifers” don’t like to own up to it.)

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Ols Scratch

February 3rd, 2012
12:57 pm

You sound salty….lol.

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I’ll side with folks trying to save lives

then you’ll support PP, since it probably does more to prevent unwanted pregnancies than any other organization in this country.

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Seems I’m surrounded by IDIOTS! Who in the world thinks that Planned Parenthood, started by a woman who wanted to rid the world of “undesireables,” is the ONLY organization that does breast screenings? And where is they’re real focus, killing more of us black females… Shame on you Komen Foundation, you insult the great woman you were named for.

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No one celebrates it [abortion]
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Why is that?

Why are abortions so emotional for those who have them?

Prolly because it’s murder, albeit a small, private one.

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Kyle-you lost me on this one. The pro-abortion people made Komen change their tune????? This wasn’t about abortion rights it was about women’s reproductive rights. Big difference.

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Karen Handel was behind this mess. Planned Parenthood follows federal guidelines. Karen campaigned here in GA on that very platform. So it wasnt suprising. I think most of us forget one important fact. ROE V WADE was decided a long time ago. This is what gives women a right to choice. IF you want to fight then bring it to the Supreme Court! Planned Parenthood has worked for Men and Women who DIDNT HAVE HEALTH INSURANCE!!
Furthermore, Cancer is an equal opportunity killer. It doesn’t choose you based on federal funding, deficits, debt, the president, party affliation, race or gender.
I am pro-choice- The repubs. always preach less goverernment in peoples lives but are alwasy at the forefront of who we choose to love, sleep with and our basic rights! Go figure. I have yet to have one Repub. explain to me why they only choose those issues?

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The Susan G. Komen fund caved to the liberal garbage out there. They can expect no more support from my family. When will someone stand up and be counted?

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The GOP just needs to get out of the business of “being in people’s PERSONAL business”!!!!!

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yay for PP. Booooo to SGK. The last time I checked Abortion is NOT illegal. The moral compass of some of these idiots because of long held talking points/heads is laughable at best. The same Health care options as well as the preventive care that PP offers to the less than 1% is greatly needed. Get your head out of your a$$es and see the big picture for what its worth. PP is a huge need for folks outside of your Country Club atmosphere.

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KW: Didn’t you see the NYT article which said that Komen CEO Brinker’s “comments directly contradicted those of John D. Raffaelli, a Komen board member and Washington lobbyist, who told The New York Times on Wednesday that Komen made the changes to its grant-making process specifically to end its relationship with Planned Parenthood. Mr. Raffaelli said that Komen had become increasingly worried that an investigation of Planned Parenthood by Representative Cliff Stearns, Republican of Florida, would damage Komen’s credibility with donors.”

Why do you suggest it was people other than Komen who politicized the decision? Was Komen’s biggest error hiring Karen Handel into a position for which she is stunningly unqualified? This entire episode is truly unfortunate, but isn’t it ridiculous for you to blame Planned Parenthood and pro-choice advocates?

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Conservatives want to use the term Pro-Abortion. Does that mean Pro-Choice advocates can label the other side as Pro-Rape, Pro-Incest or Pro-Death since they believe abortion should have no exceptions, including these cases?

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You CONs are F’n sore losers today…..lol.

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TBS, thanks, you have a great weekend, too!

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Wonder if the NFL will wear pink shoes next season.

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Abortion is a tragedy. No one is pro-abortion. But until we force men to donate their extra kidney, blood and bone marrow to save the life of another living human being, then abortion needs to be safe, legal and hopefully rare. It is and always will be a privacy issue.

Planned Parenthood strives to prevent unplanned pregnancies that might otherwise be aborted and save the lives of women who have no where else to go. The World Health Organization has just come out stating that countries that have legal abortions in fact have fewer abortions. This is what it really means to be Pro-life.

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Dusty

February 3rd, 2012
1:12 pm

The WOMEN who work to raise the money revolted, that’s why Komen changed. A non profit without donations can’t stay in business.

What are you drinking this afternoon?

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SGKFC wasn’t wrong for deciding that they might not want to help Planned Parenthood. It was wrong because abortion is an important option for women’s reproductive health, and SGKFC wrongly believed otherwise. Karen Handel cynically attempted to direct money away from a good service (against many if not most SGKFC donors’ wishes) by arbitrarily excluding an organization that provides abortion, and we know this thanks to Goldberg’s reporting in the Atlantic.

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LBB — “Why are abortions so emotional for those who have them? Prolly because it’s murder, albeit a small, private one.”

Many surgical procedures are emotional for the individuals who undergo them. Doesn’t make them into murder.

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N.b., I still see “pro-abortion” in the article. I suspect someone’s not doing the job he says he is if the claim is that it changed. But what else do you expect from pundits? Rhetoric, and not much else.

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If you think PP is just a wonderful, sincere place that truly cares about women and “planning parenthood”, you need to do your research because you have been totally deceived. In just the last few years, Planned Parenthood has racked up a record of fraud, Medicaid overbilling, criminal cover-ups, falsifying medical information, violating safety standards, encouraging prostitution and sex trafficking, medical malpractice, accepting racially-motivated donations, and huge profits.

DO YOUR RESEARCH PEOPLE!!!!

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Sorry, Susan G. Komen.

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Churchill’s mom.

I am having a nice cup of tea. What are you drinking?

Any non-profit that loses its support, should go out of business. It obviously does not fill a need.

I hope Komen continues its good work without the meddling of political partisans. As far as I know they fill the requirements for non-profit organizations. They don’t need the aid of political instigators telling them how to run their business.

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Kathy @ 1:14

Hear, hear! an excellent post!

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bibleman…please quote scripture. How do you think an intentional abortion is an accidental killing?

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People within the Penn State football community are, but the organization known as “Penn State” is not.

Oh, lawdy, nothing like a backtracking con for a laugh.

People are always the subject of investigations, unless you think institutions somehow act on their own. Fines and or/sanctions (if any) of the Cleary act will be leveled at Penn State, not an individual. Notice these are not the criminal charges connected to Sandusky, those are a different matter.

Please, save the jock-sniffing and backpedaling for someone who will buy it.

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Kyle – You’re not even worth commenting on.

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Becky

February 3rd, 2012
1:31 pm

Now you know all the CONs are gonna raise their hands.
A good day for Liberals.

Libs: 2
Cons:0

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Darwin, @1:29

We look forward to NOT having your comments on this blog. Thank you.

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gregory….

Compulsive wife cheater – How does this equate to poor presidential choice?
One who takes jobs and sends them overseas – Please provide proof of any job Romney sent overseas.

Sounds like you are voting for Santorum?

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Don’t Tread — “Funny, it’s the liberal Komen supporters who threatened to pull their donations once Komen decided to stop supporting PP. I love how liberals do things and then attempt to project their wrongdoing on conservatives.”

I’m afraid I don’t understand. Could you please explain what ‘projected wrongdoing’ you’re referring to?

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Dusty,

“It is a private financial issue pertinent only to founders and staff of Komen, a NON-PROFIT organization. I don’t think you fit into either of those categories unless there is also a busy-body slot.”

Are you saying that when you donate money to a NON-PROFIT, you don’t care how they use your donation?

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The issue here is that Planned Parenthood has been demonized as an “aportion clinic”. The truth is, that is only about 3% of it’s services are aportion – legally. The rest of their services are delivering needed low cost birth control, reproductive information and help with family planning for couples. In college, as a poor student supporting myself, they were more than helpful for me by giving me low cost women’s medical care. And they were the first ones I went to when I wanted to be sure I gave good information to my preteen daughter.

On the other hand, when my mother was suffering from cancer, SBK was less helpful than my local pharmacist! Trust me, my donations have NEVER gone to SBK. I refuse to wear any of their clothes or pins (HAVE you looked at what they spend for administration?). My dollars do go to Planned Parenthood.

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Aquagirl, in case you missed any of my comments on many of Kyle’s threads, I am not a “con” on this issue. But that would require reading skills you apparent lack.

The only conservative views I have on abortion is that government; A. shouldn’t use tax dollars to pay for them, and B. shouldn’t be in the business of making policy about them.

If women want to have abortions, let them have as many as they want. Just don’t ask me to pay for them.

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I’ve never given a dime to SGK, nor will I ever (now that they’ve cowered to the murderous Planned (non)”Parenthood”).

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Omg srsly? so duuuum.
who cares about unborn babbies??
even when they are born they cant even sit up or talk.
if a girl get pregant and doesnt want it thats her choice. DUH!!!!!!!!!

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independent…..So you believe that Christ didnt care about the value of human life?

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“I’ve never given a dime to SGK, nor will I ever”

Soooooo, what you belly aching about….they wont miss you.

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Let there be no mistake, the original decision was political and so was the reversal. Why did politics need to come into play in the first place. The Komen foundation is in the business of funding education, research and screening for breast cancer. Breast cancer affects Democrats, Republicans, liberals, conservatives, religious folk and non-religious folk. Why does EVERYTHING have to be politicized??? DAMN!

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I am just curious: I thught Komen raised money (lots if money) for breast cancer research. Why are they GIVING money to any other group?? Help me here.

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Dumb and Dumber @ 1:45

Extremely well said.

Thank you sir.

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I am absolutely sure that Komen’s motives were lily white and Planed Parenthood is the bad guy here.Keep repeating that until you believe it.Over and over if necessary.

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@Jose

You are racist and I have reported your comment.

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n for above.

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Get a clue people. If u have a babby just bc u are scared of abortion u r stupid. The babby will have a bad life anyway and now 2 people will be misebal instead of 1. DUMB. There’s NOTHING wrong with abrotion.

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“For You formed my inward parts; you covered me in my mother’s womb. I will praise You, for I am fearfully and wonderfully made; marvelous are Your works, and that my soul knows very well.” (Psalm 139:13-14)

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Sion at 1:54

Susan G. Komen does more than just support research into curing breast cancer, tehy also help woment diagnose it (that is where the grants to PP for mammograms came in, and to living with breast cancer (like buying a wig for a woman who is going through chemo).

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Ernest…..Congratulations you win the award for most ignorant post of the day!

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And who cares what jesus would think about it. He was just some creepy bearded guy who lived 10,000 years ago and couldn’t even aford a boat. They didn’t even have abrotion tecnology back them so he defintly didn’t know about it so couldn’t have an opinion.

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Hi Kaylee94 And they say we can’t spell here in Georgia. Great Job.

UGA 1999 One of these days the good lord is going to smite you.

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Cons wanna make you have the baby, but dont want to help pay for it….go figure.

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Aquagirl, in case you missed any of my comments on many of Kyle’s threads, I am not a “con” on this issue.

You said something patently crazy and I called you on it.

Your stance on abortion, gun control, or the price of tea in China has nothing to do with your entirely incorrect blathering that Penn State is not under investigation, unlike Planned Parenthood.

You were wrong, now deal with it, I am never an ally of provably false statements even if we agree on other issues, whatever they may be. And I’m certainly not going to go read every other post you’ve written just to decide if you’re a homie worthy of a free pass or something.

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“independent….So you feel that life does not begin until a fetus is 9 months old?”

I personally believe that life begins when the fetus is able to survive on its own (viability). Until that time it is just another part of the mother. By the way, in the Jewish religion, I understand that “quickening” is used as the measure of when life begins.

A question: If the majority of people believe that life begins at conception, why do we not have funereals after miscarriages? Why do we not name the embryo as soon as we get a positive pregnancy test?

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@kaylee94

Shouldn’t you be at the mall? Let us grown ups discuss.

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So you believe that Christ didnt care about the value of human life?

not that you asked me, but I believe one can be a devout evangelical Christian and support a pro-choice public policy.

If you disagree, you might want to tell those “baby-killling” Mennonites, who put it this way:

“We stress the importance of respect for the life of the fetus. We condone abortion only under the most exceptional of circumstances. When abortion appears to be the least bad choice among several undesirable options, we stress the need for discernment in the faith community.

Because of the diversity of moral conviction in our society, we realize that what the law permits is not necessarily moral behavior for the Christian. We believe, however, that the church should witness to society in favor of the “general presumption against any human decision to terminate life.” We will offer counsel about alternatives to abortion.

While many could support legislation which seeks to curtail some types of abortion, we recognize that legislation banning all abortions will not stop abortions from happening. Instead, it places sanctions on those women who choose abortion, without regard for the fathers involved or the fact that the women are already suffering the consequences of their choice. It also disproportionately affects the poor, as those with means will find ways to obtain safe abortions. Further, legislation is using the government to force others to comply with our Christian standards, something our forebears clearly rejected. We believe that the demands of discipleship are to be accepted voluntarily, not imposed legally upon everyone regardless of conviction.”

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Kaylee, now put that bong down! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

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UGA has a bible?

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UGA, what a poser, being president has to do with character, just like Clinton who cheated and also worked with the most dishonest people on earth, Wall Street, and who also backed out Glass/Stegall (spelling not sure). Read what Mitt’s company did for money, and he did indeed move jobs to slave worker companies and this waste of flesh moved 100 million to his kids, no taxes and paid less taxes than people that work for a living. The right and their super pacs will make less and less a impact as voters see that everyone of these billionaires have no country but only markets. Not that I love Obama due to his connections to Wall Street, but he beats the crap out of the other two morons, all Newt wants is to sell books and Mitt to help his fellow crooks.

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Liberals suck.

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As long as abortion is legal in this country, PP has every right to offer abortions whether conservatives like it or not. Republicans need to accept it and leave PP alone.

Komen has every right to offer grants to PP or any other organizations they choose to fund. They also have the right to pull their funding from any organizations. People who donate or support Komen in any way, have the right to voice their opinion and stop making donations or offer any type of support to Komen. They have every right to put pressure on Komen. They did and succeeded. Komen probably didn’t help themselves by giving the “under investigation” reason.

This is America and our freedoms…this is how America works. We have the right to protest and all sides exercise those rights To try an make this political or unAmerican is flat out wrong.

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“Another question–if killing an unborn is no problem (hey, it’s just a tissue mass), why do we prosecute folks who kill an unborn child through negligence, such as drunk driving accidents?”

Because we vote idiots into lawmaking and prosecutorial positions?

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Roberto

February 3rd, 2012
2:17 pm

Sore loser……….

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How did Obozo make that money? A good chunk of it was from Moochelle’s high paying no-show job in Chicago.

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“For You formed my inward parts; you covered me in my mother’s womb. I will praise You, for I am fearfully and wonderfully made; marvelous are Your works, and that my soul knows very well.” (Psalm 139:13-14)

Thats your Religion. Not mine.

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How did you land such a sweet gig, Kyle? The lone conservative voice for a liberal rag like the AJC? That’s a long row to hoe, my friend. My thoughts and prayers go with you!

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I was happy to hear the Komen had stopped funding Planned Parenthood because that has always stopped me from supporting Komen walks, etc in the past. I had planned on giving to one of the walks this year in support of their decision. Now that they have given into the pressure of the left, I will again be back to not donating to anything with a Komen stamp on it.
And I am a woman not an angry white male.

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getalife……you truly need to get a life; your blithering rants about your precious Obama eliminate ANY potential credibility that you may have…but then again “stupid is as stupid does”

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UGA 1999, serious question.

Why should your religious beliefs be the determining factor for my personal life, so long as my personal life doesn’t affect your life, liberty or property?

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I’m thankful all this news has been brought into the national spotlight. I for one (and I’m sure millions of donors to the pink foundation) never knew they gave away alot of those donations to Planned Parenthood. Now we know. Shame on us (pro-lifers)for indirectly supporting the taking of millions of innocent lives. The “cat’s out of the bag” at least for me.

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Kyle – you would not withstand the satirical scrutiny of the Daily Show on this one. To whine about Planned Parenthood’s perceived political power and political attacks seems a little inconsistent since even if it is political, it is a response to a political attack by Republican congressmen.

Even if Karen Handel has been unfairly framed, I’d be fine with her removal from Komen. she is nothing but a cold-blooded political calculator who always seems to be on the wrong side of public policy that I would agree with.

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Go Dwags.

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What voiceless, UGA 1999? How far do you wish to take this? Do animals have a voice, or is it just that we can’t understand them? Do you think cows volunteer to become that steak on your plate?

Am I “voiceless” if I wish to not burden my family with expenses and care when I just wish to stop participating in the living? There are many on the conservative side that do not want me to have a say when I am done with life. Are you one of those as well?

Don’t the women who have been forced to bear a child through incest or rape have a voice? Yet you don’t listen to them at all.

Why can’t you take care of your own life and your own “voiceless” and let me take care of mine?

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yesssir

February 3rd, 2012
2:06 pm
“Cons wanna make you have the baby, but dont want to help pay for it….go figure.”

Oh, so you want the taxpayers to pay for it? Why should they?

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Let this be a warning to any group thinking of teaming up with Planned Parenthood in the future: You can check in any time you like, but you can never leave.

Be careful of the stones you throw.

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The liberals have really exposed themselves today!

The issue is not about pro-choice V pro-life or women’s rights & their bodies, but the liberals have made it such.

Komen focuses on breasts & cancer for both women AND men. It has nothing to do with anything below the waist.

Planned Parenthood was founded by Sanger, a eugenicist, with a mission to eliminate the black race thru abortion. Its name & mission have not changed. It owns mammogram equipment in only 3 of the 19 clinics mentioned. The marriage between Komen & PP was & is a marriage made in hell, defying common sense.

There is no way that Komen’s donations to PP were not being co-mingled & used for “other” services, including abortions. The liberals KNOW this & are arguing for its continuance. It’s not enough for liberals that abortions are legal in the US. They demand that US taxpayers MUST pay for them ($363 M in ‘10).

Komen should direct funds to providers who share & are capable of fulfilling it’s limited mission.

http://liveaction.org/planned-parenthood-racism-project

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UGA Obama made most of his money selling books, not destroying American jobs. Let Mitt the liar move to China with the rest of his greedy buddies and one look at Newt’s wife says it all, during a run for the highest office his wife insist that he go on a Greek cruise, empty heads both. But he is religious so that’s all that counts, oh yea the earth is only what 6 or 7 thousand years old, you should have married Newt’s wife, same brain power as yours.

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I will not give money to or support any organization that gives money to planned parenthood. That’s my right as an individual taxpayer who is tired of the shake downs by the far left. Wonder how much money will be raised by planned parenthood for Komen.

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Yes, because providing links to moonbat organizations lends sooooo much credence…..

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Ernest….and your salvation is of no concern to me.

What salvation?

Are all the people born before Jesus in hell ?

Christianity is just the cult of the day.

When you die you die. Thats it.

Or maybe you go to live with Zeus ?

Hmmmmm

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Linda….very nice post.

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gregory…so he made $10 million from selling books eh? hAHAHA

Ummm. Yes he did.

http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/money.asp

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gregory, get off the MSNBC crack, buddy!

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Hey Ernest, UGA 1999 has no problem with imposing his religious views on others, but watch him squeal when the government puts conditions on religious institutions that require that they do not discriminate against gays or non-believers.

I used to have high opinions of UGA grads, but now we only hire people from Tech or GSU (or out of state colleges) as UGA grads are just too narrow-minded to be any use in my office.

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Ernest….Wow you will believe anything! So he made $10 million off his racist and marxist views in one book. NICE!

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uga, Look at Obama’s tax records for the last 9 years, unlike those of, commie lover Mitt who will only show the last two yeasr and I hear we will find out there are questions about those as well. Admit it, most republicans are dense and dishonest and work like the crips, no snitching, write nothing down and pay off the law makers. Most of America is sick and tired of these crooks and the way they stand behind religion and take away more rights whilst crying for less government, hippocrates at the max.

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It was right wing bullies like you who demanded Komen use money donated for CANCER SCREENING to instead send a political message for religious extremists.

Komen got what it earned, nobody trusts them now.

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Haven’t read all the comments, but bottom line for me is I don’t want the government between my legs. And I don’t want a MALE columnist writing about pro-abortion or abortion, in general You want to talk/write about abortion? Talk about it with your wife, girlfriend or THEIR doctor and keep it to yourself, meaning between you and your significant other. Abortion is legal – you’re too young to remember what women would do to abort. Back room, back alley type butchering. And for the women, if it’s not your body do not tell me what to do with mine.

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Just shows that this country is still run by the “MOB RULES” mentality which is the exact definition of what a DEMOCRACY is. So all the FEMINAZIS got their panties in a wad about SGK foundation potentially stopping funding for PP breast screenings that, lest we forgot the O’Keefe story, that Planned Parenthood doesn’t do breast screenings; Planned Parent is just another “ACORN!”

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PP does breast exams and screenings, but not mammograms. For those, tehy refer to clinical facilities that do conduct the mammograms, and much of their SGK grant monies go directly to those facilities to provide the mammograms to qualifying women at no or reduced cost.

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Rose,

Typical rant by the “dumb masses.” Hate to tell you but the Government is between your legs already, by telling insurance companies what they MUST cover, and you wonder why Health insurance costs are going up, and with OBAMACARE it will be up other orafices too!

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And the #1 killer of African-Americans in the U.S. today is…….yep, you guessed it, abortion!! 11,000,000 and counting.

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I don’t understand you ” Pro Coat Hanger ” folks.
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I don’t understand folks getting prenant who don’t want babies.

Irresponsible and stupid.

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Founder of Planned Parenthood, Margaret Sanger, initiated the Negro Project in 1939 to “infiltrate the black community by presenting birth control as a health option for women to kill off the black race. Kill them off by limiting the growth of the population by abortion & sterilization.”

http://www.nationalblackprolifeunion.com/Margaret-Sanger-and-The-Negro-Project.html

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Kathy, don’t get too mad at Linda. She’s not particularly bright, she’s simply parroting the propoganda she’s picked up elsewhere. It’s easier than actual research.

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Rose, you said it all, and I appreciate that you mentioned that the husband should have input, however in many cases it is a young woman who is scared and vulnerable and then they pass these laws that make them listen to people that care nothing for the young woman and care less when the child is born with no viable means for support. No one wants to take that route, but then the same simple minded people also do not want these young woman to take birth control, once the baby is born they are now non-taxpaying sponges. When will people wake up tell these people to shut the heck up. Do you think most rich white men that are anti everything would allow their daughters to have a baby when they are 14? No

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Well shoot, I missed all the fun. Sanger (including must of the progressive of the era) wasn’t much better than the NAZI, were they Linda? In fact it has been cited the NAZI Party borrowed eugenicist ideas from the American Progressives to produce their “Super Race”.

Anyhow, for me, I’m Pro-life pre- Roe v Wade, so I’m not anti-abortion like Mr Santorum. A women has a choice how she chooses to use her body (that’s is a given) but women need to face the consequences of their “adult” choices after they make them (as an elderly lady once said, honey you made your choice when you dropped your panties! ). So if you can’t woman-up to the responsibilities of your actions (goes for the male factor too) then let someone else adopt the life you would otherwise destroy and I do support Gay adoptions over abortions, unlike some so-called Christian Conservatives that claim the LOVE OF GOD.

Now as for the issue using of contraception? Got a brain? Use it!

End of sermon.

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More statements by Sanger, Planned Parenthood today & facts about Planned Parenthood:

http://www.dianedew.com/sanger.htm

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@Michael E Smith, well what happens if that 12 year old girl didn’t have a choice (ie rape or incest)?

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Things that make you say…HMMMM!

Not very good at reading are you? Even less at thinking? Understand the meaning of statutory rape?
Then go back and read very carefully exactly what I said about my stance – Et al Per Roe -v Wade.

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Boy get off this blog and go get the hay……..I am hungry.

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@Lil’ Barry Bailout (Revised Downward)

February 3rd, 2012
4:01 pm
And that would be your problem – how, exactly, LBB?
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It’s a problem for every tax paying American who is forced to pay the medical and living expenses of these broodmare parasites.
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Boy get off this blog and go get the hay……..I am hungry.

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Annually, Planned Parenthood abortions are killing more blacks than:
HIV 6,398
respiratory disease 7,830
homicide 8,870
diabetes 12,343
accidents 13,559
kidney disease 17,323
cancer 63,441
heart disease 95,059
total 289,366 PLUS
Planned Parenthood abortions 363,705
Grand total 653,071

http://www.patheos.com/blogs/badcatholic/2011/09/how-to-kill-black-people.html

Progressive Democrats!

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Michael, my question was simple. You were already positioned to pounce and I became the recipiant of it! No problem…you may proceed!

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Good read about the revolt of the affiliates.

http://online.wsj.com/article/AP5e1fe14a905b42609fb544e8224ca7a1.html

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sad reversal is a “victory” for the unborn killers

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Kyle,

I grew up in an affluent area in Chi Town and I can tell you that many a young girl found themselves in a pregnant state and everyone one of them went to the doctor to have an appendix removed with no scars. The young girls without the money had to travel to Wisconsin to have the procedure. Explain your logic as I do not follow it?

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Nothing…NOTHING is more important to the left than the ability to murder their young. They percieve any reduction of funding for any reason from any source as a full on assault on their most cherished ability.

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I see integrity, like ethics and morals, continues to elude the conservative movement. Kyle, the politicizing came as a direct result of the concerted efforts of select individuals at Komen and the anti-women’s rights wing of the GOP. Further, the anti-women’s rights gang’s efforts once again failed, thanks to the efforts of the majority in this country — the pro-women’s rights people. Down with conservative GOP “Sharia Law”. But do feel free to put the women’s health, of your ideology, at risk in order to make a political statement if you feel you must. Just leave the rest of us out of it. Best of Luck with that.

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Kyle — “gregory: I understand the point you are trying to make with that comment, but the hypotheticals about someone’s daughter being raped are too close to the “who should be aborted” lines I cut off earlier.”

Okay, Kyle, I’ll make it more ethically black-and-white and less directed at others.

In 1999, my wife underwent an abortion. When they performed the procedure, the doctor said that she was — at most — an hour or two from death.

Who here would have denied my wife that abortion? And for what reasons?

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Record 1.2 Million People Fall Out Of Labor Force In One Month, Labor Force Participation Rate Tumbles To Fresh 30 Year Low

A month ago, we joked when we said that for Obama to get the unemployment rate to negative by election time, all he has to do is to crush the labor force participation rate to about 55%. Looks like the good folks at the BLS heard us: it appears that the people not in the labor force exploded by an unprecedented record 1.2 million. No, that’s not a typo: 1.2 million people dropped out of the labor force in one month! So as the labor force increased from 153.9 million to 154.4 million, the non institutional population increased by 242.3 million meaning, those not in the labor force surged from 86.7 million to 87.9 million. Which means that the civilian labor force tumbled to a fresh 30 year low of 63.7% as the BLS is seriously planning on eliminating nearly half of the available labor pool from the unemployment calculation. As for the quality of jobs, as withholding taxes roll over Year over year, it can only mean that the US is replacing high paying FIRE jobs with low paying construction and manufacturing. So much for the improvement.
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By whatever means necessary.

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Kyle — “Joe Mama: As far as I can tell, not even National Right to Life favors banning abortion in cases where the mother’s life is in danger.”

Kyle, I appreciate your reply. I know that Rick Santorum has taken some heat for votes to continue funding PP, but hasn’t he expressed a preference for banning abortions without exceptions?

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In the United States, the maternal death rate was 11 maternal deaths per 100,000 live births in 2005.

Can we talk about something that matters instead of some ridiculous liberal contrivance?

Who amongst you is too stupid to know that all of the major planned parenthood butcher shops are located in or near predominately black neighborhoods?

Who amongst you is too stupid to know that black children are aborted at a disproportionately higher rate than any other race?

Who are you kidding, liberals, you aren’t allowed to put on your stupid pointy hats, ride your little horsey through town, burn crosses in their lawns or lynch them anymore, so you make sure they have all the help they need to kill off the next generation.

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I love the sanctimonious right wings that are rich, they love war but very, very few go to war. Perhaps the thought is the poor born are to be like gladiators which are expendable and are there to furnish the man power to fight the wars whilst the cowards that rule with billions by ripping us off on oil and derivatives worry about the daily cost of oil and Apple. Is it only me or does anyone else see that they only care till the baby is born and after that the babies are leaches living off the hardworking billionaires. This is true and the stupid middle class who think these greedy war mongers care about them is as real as thinking Wall Street is honest. Let woman make their own rules and decisions about their life, I am a man but it’s a tough decision to make, but it’s theirs to make not mine

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No, Linda, I can’t find a legitimate source that claims that Margaret Sanger was “on a mission to eliminate the black race thru abortion.” Such a thing does not exist, because it’s not true.

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No more money for the Komen folks. Planned Parenthood is my designated charitable donation recipient from now on. All the right wing nuts need to get real. Planned Parenthood efforts are worthwhile and essential for women’s health.

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Linda, America bought 400,000 plus slaves in the past, Central and South America bought 3 to 4 million, in the same time period. I listened to a talk by an Afro-American professor, the one that had the beer talk with the dumb cop and the President and he mentioned that most so called African Americans are really mixed with other races all over Gods green Earth. There are plenty of PP places all over to get condoms and or birth control, but the stupid girls and men do not bother to partake and I do not feel sorry for them. No one is out to get them but themselves, so really clam up.

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gregory@6:10, I can only refer you to my 4:59 comment.
My husband’s been happily married for 36 yrs. His advice to you would be to never tell a woman to “really clam up.”

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The problem with your insistence that Margaret Sanger wished to exterminate blacks is that it was only a wish, Linda.

She had no power to make such an absurd goal a reality.

Her beliefs, while distasteful, are no different than those who believe in a particular religion; neither outcome nor substantiation of belief can be proven.

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Tiberius@6:34, Finally a liberal acknowledges the truth about Sanger, but still fails to decipher the difference between her dreams & the reality today. She lit the match & the rest is history. I agree with you that sometimes the truth really hurts & the magnitude of it sometimes defies the imagination.

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HANDEL’D

I think the reversal was the correct decision for many reasons. Hopefully the firestorm will now pass and each organization can get back to it’s purpose.

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Michael, The comments today were unbelievable! If you are still here, you must read my 3:04 comment to really understand the debate.

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[...] Planned Parenthoodmsnbc.com (blog)Keep politics, health separateCt PostSan Jose Mercury News -Atlanta Journal Constitution (blog) -ChristianityToday.comall 5,890 news [...]

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[...] Planned Parenthoodmsnbc.com (blog)Keep politics, health separateCt PostSan Jose Mercury News -Atlanta Journal Constitution (blog) -ChristianityToday.comall 5,891 news [...]

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Komen made a mistake when they hired Karen Handel.

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who cares. the more liberals that kill their babies means less liberals around to screw things up in the future.

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@getalife Good for some new jobs. Horrible for over a million dropping out of the job market. Net effect: the depression of no jobs == people giving up on ever getting a job.

Can’t wait to see the end of O’s destruction of our nation.

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Non-Hispanic white women account for 36% of abortions, non-Hispanic black women for 30%.

Factor in the population: 12% Black, 63% non-Hispanic white. If abortion were spread equally among the population, that would be the proportion of abortions seen. But instead… we see almost 3x the expected abortions among blacks, and about 1/2 the expected abortions among whites.

Sanger’s goals still reign supreme. Just as it was liberals who were last to support freedom for the slaves, and last to support civil rights, so too today. It is liberals who hold on to the mistaken belief that abortion is about every woman’s right to choose and that human lives in the womb have no rights. Eventually, you’ll get it: this industry was set up as a racist attempt to eliminate blacks. And it is quite successful.

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I just heard a radio spot for Komen where the announcer said something like “Because everyone deserves a lifetime”.

Apparently not for “everyone”.

Planned Parenthood’s funds are fungible among their various “programs”.

Komen is essentially saying that there just aren’t any other medical clinics in the United States that could conduct breast cancer screenings except the one that also performs abortions on unborn babies.

It’s a sad irony that an organization that purports to aid women’s health has to team with an organization that permanently destroys the health of the unborn.

And if unborn babies are simply “an unviable tissue mass”, then why are the killers of pregnant women charged with two murders?

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@RGB, Seriously, sit down, have a cool glass of water.

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Non-Hispanic white women account for 36% of abortions, non-Hispanic black women for 30%.

Out of all the abortions, more were for whites than for blacks. Six percent more, MrPete. Twist it any way you want but in the end MORE whites had abortions than did blacks. Further, the percentage of the population that is white is shrinking while the percentage that is black is growing. So have fun with your Sanger fear card if it makes you feel better.

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Who the freak is Kyle? And what does he know about the women’s movement or women’s issues? There was no relevance to his article. All opinion; no fact. That said, SK was believed to be about women and for women. Now this image is tarnished. The fundamental reasons and rights that SK supported, the trust and image of this great organization, is tarnished. It will take awhile for the trust to be rebuilt. Absolutely.

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@Grace
SBK may have made a questionable decision, but it is Planned Parenthood and the liberals who have gone out of their way to destroy SBK while claiming they are about women’s issues. SBK has been permanently harmed by liberal politicians and Planned Parenthood who could have done a much more quiet campaign. SBK is now viewed as an organization that supports all liberal issues from conservatives and an organization that is doubtful in its support by liberals. Planned Parenthood doesn’t care about anything but winning. SBK didn’t remove support from PP where there were no other alternatives.

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