Why Ron Paul should be in some president’s cabinet
I have said throughout this Republican presidential primary that I do not believe Ron Paul will win the nomination. That said, I do think he will be in the race until the end because of his loyal supporters and fund-raising prowess. He might well finish second, and most likely no worse than third, in number of delegates to this summer’s GOP convention. That kind of success would merit more than a nice speaking time slot in Tampa and a few relatively meaningless planks on the party’s platform.
Should the eventual nominee, whoever it is, defeat Barack Obama in November, he ought to appoint Paul to his cabinet.
Which cabinet position? Whichever one that president-elect wanted to eliminate or dramatically shrink.
That’s not a way of pulling a fast one on the man who more than one wag has deemed America’s Grandpa (i.e., he says some things that sound wise, and some other things that make you think, Oh, there goes crazy ol’ grandpa again!). I intend it as a compliment.
Of all people whom a president could appoint to the cabinet without having to worry that he’d resort to petty bureaucratic fights to protect his turf, it would be Paul. Can you imagine what the man would do with the instructions to reduce his budget and work force as much as possible? He could be America’s version of Maurice McTigue, whose government-cutting exploits down under I’ve mentioned before.
Assuming he finished the job in less than a four-year term, I’d then appoint him to the next on my list of agencies to cut.
I don’t know if Paul would take the job(s), but he said he isn’t running for re-election to Congress and certainly has a passion for limiting government. If he were up for it, a Republican president ought to be, too.
– By Kyle Wingfield
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Somali Republican
January 27th, 2012
2:20 pm
End all government functions now. We want freedom.
carlosgvv
January 27th, 2012
2:23 pm
He could start with consumer protection agencies. I’m sure he’d be glad to get rid of all those pesky rules and regulations Business has to put up with, such as safe foods and medicines. Big Business would build a shrine to him.
Josh
January 27th, 2012
2:23 pm
I dont think Paul would even stoop to participate in the kind of terrible big government statist policies of the other fake republican candidates. But that said, those clowns better find some way to make Paul’s supporters (including Iraq vets like myself) happy, otherwise there is NO way a republican will beat Obama in November.
HDB
January 27th, 2012
2:25 pm
Ron Paul has just as much baggage as Newt……
Maybe a position as Secretary of HHS…..he’d need help in getting the lunatics, tea partiers, and racists off the street…(starting with himself first….)…….
Josh
January 27th, 2012
2:26 pm
@carlosgvv… “such as safe foods and medicines”. I try to hold in my laugh, I really do. The same regulators that work for Goldman Sachs and JP Morgan, the ones that give big banks bailouts and screw over the little guy. Ya, thats the same government I can trust to NOT get in bed with big agrabusinesses like Monsanto and Dow Chemical. I trust the big Government to NOT get in bed with big pharma like Baxter and GlaxoSmithKline. You socialists are hilarious. when you give big government that much power, the 1% moves in to take control of the reigns. only the free market of capitalism can regulate those industries. How is that so hard to understand?
Somali Republican
January 27th, 2012
2:31 pm
You are right Josh. I don’t need the govenment talking about my pills giving me a four hour erection.
The Snark
January 27th, 2012
2:32 pm
Appointing someone to run an executive branch agency with the instruction to “reduce his budget and work force as much as possible” is terrible management in the public sector. That is NOT the way to do it. If you want to reduce a government agency, you do it by reducing the mission of the agency. Otherwise, you just get bad government — an agency that is tasked to do something but doesn’t have the resources to do it right.
Do what??????
January 27th, 2012
2:32 pm
Agreed
Do what??????
January 27th, 2012
2:33 pm
“Ron Paul has just as much baggage as Newt…”
Like what? I don’t recall Dr. Paul as having had 3 wives.
Do what??????
January 27th, 2012
2:35 pm
Ron Paul for Treasury Secretary.
Rand Eller
January 27th, 2012
2:40 pm
Absolutely agree with Josh and Somali. I dont need govt telling me what substances I can put in my body. Legalize marijuana and heroin. Let Coke put the cocaine back in their cola (that should be popular in Atlanta). Who cares if we import Chinese drywall that releases noxious chemicals. Let the market decide and…Caveat Emptor – “Let the buyer beware!”
Cam
January 27th, 2012
2:40 pm
BIG GOVERNMENT REPUBLICANS have been exposed. That is what Ron Paul and his supporters have done. Romney is Obama and Obama is Romney; we got it!
RON PAUL 2012
reader110
January 27th, 2012
2:42 pm
If Paul really believe in limiting government, why does he support the pro life movement whose sole purpose is telling women what they should do with their bodies?
He’s full of it, just like all the politicians out there – our current President included.
Do what??????
January 27th, 2012
2:43 pm
reader110
Because he doesn’t believe in killing unborn children.
Jefferson
January 27th, 2012
2:45 pm
With you guys he’s like a game show contestant with a parting gift.
gm
January 27th, 2012
2:52 pm
We really want a guy who voted against the civil rights bill, and his racist writings now he said he no clue, in the white house?
Joshua Matlock
January 27th, 2012
2:59 pm
In the beginning of a change the patriot is a scarce man, and brave, and hated and scorned. When his cause succeeds, the timid join him, for then it costs nothing to be a patriot. – Mark Twain
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=y5RKleqMjuE#!
http://www.sunherald.com/2012/01/26/3713266/what-is-a-patriot-hint-this-isnt.html
John
January 27th, 2012
2:59 pm
Easy one, appoint Dr. Paul as chariman of the Fed, with the instructions “Dismantle it”. It would be a great way to end his political career and give him a spot in history, as the man who lifted the monetary chains off of our econonmy, the one institution that has created so much misery, that resulted in more, not less poverty, which spurred on an ever increasing welfare state. If there’s one thing that could give us the most amount of freedom in one punch, it’s ending the Fed, and I would like to see Dr. Paul do it.
Do what??????
January 27th, 2012
3:01 pm
“We really want a guy who voted against the civil rights bill, and his racist writings now he said he no clue, in the white house?”
Well, we already have a guy who attended a racist church for 20 years.
yesssir
January 27th, 2012
3:25 pm
“attended a racist church for 20 years.”
LINK?
Phyzz
January 27th, 2012
3:25 pm
Do what?????? said, “Well, we already have a guy who attended a racist church for 20 years.”
====================================================
I thought he was supposed to be a Muslim. No?
mark
January 27th, 2012
3:26 pm
Ron Paul Negotiating power will not be with just the Republican GOP’s but with Obama as well. I think Obama will want Ron Paul to run as an Independent.
Tiberius - Your lightning rod of hate!
January 27th, 2012
3:26 pm
Me? I’d put him in charge of the EPA.
First year into it, he’d have every regulation that accomplishes nothing but slows the creation of jobs eliminated.
Odis
January 27th, 2012
3:28 pm
Ron Paul is a racist and a bigot (read his newsletters that he signed off on and approved), he just needs to go back to Texas and STFU. I’ve had enough of this crazy racist.
Jose Mora
January 27th, 2012
3:30 pm
I stopped reading at the end of the first sentence. That told me everything I needed to know about the article that was to follow and the author’s inherent bias.
biased1
January 27th, 2012
3:30 pm
Ron Paul’s skills are more akin to Ronald Reagan though Paul is intellectually stronger and Reagan was a more eloquent communicator. Like Reagan, Paul is not a skilled administrator appropriate for running a cabinet department. Paul would be strongest at Treasury but there are better candidates who share his views – like David Stockman. Like Reagan, Paul is an enthusiastic evangelist of limited government who has the vision and philosophy to help guide him through tough executive decisions.
gm
January 27th, 2012
3:31 pm
Do what??????
I think I will take Rev Wright who been married to one wife for over 40 years and a ex marine over Newt or Paul.
redneckbluedog
January 27th, 2012
3:32 pm
He wants to get rid of the Department of Education, Homeland Security, EPA, and the Federal Reserve….so those are out……WHATEVER YOU DO…DO NOT PUT HIM IN CHARGE OF IMMIGRATION…!!!!!! He wants to open the borders….WIDE A$$ OPEN……..I do not agree with this at all….!!!!!!
Do what??????
January 27th, 2012
3:32 pm
gm
Ok, so you’re a racist.
Do what??????
January 27th, 2012
3:33 pm
“I thought he was supposed to be a Muslim. No?”
Your words.
Do what??????
January 27th, 2012
3:33 pm
LINK?
Is your Google broke?
Dusty
January 27th, 2012
3:33 pm
Well, Granpa Paul does seem like a nice fellow. I like the idea of him being on the new ujpcoming cabinet. But, on one condition. He must drop out of the race now. No splitting the GOP vote with libertarians. They are a frisky lot what with all their desire for marijuana, cocaine and other such “liberties”. Their minds kinda wander.
yesssir
January 27th, 2012
3:37 pm
Nope, not broke….unable to find these “racist” statements.
Do what??????
January 27th, 2012
3:39 pm
:”Nope, not broke….unable to find these “racist” statements.”
Obama’s race-rant Rev. rages on
‘White folk done took this country’
Read more: http://www.nypost.com/p/news/national/white_folk_done_took_this_country_hWlQbwxvMbnYdkYwVZwSWJ#ixzz1kh2eRZ1t
Kyle Wingfield
January 27th, 2012
3:41 pm
Jose Mora: If you’d followed my blog throughout this primary, you’d know I’ve been calling this race as I see it, not trying to push one candidate over another. OTOH your statement, about tuning out something you don’t want to hear, is a lot closer to “bias.”
Tiberius - Your lightning rod of hate!
January 27th, 2012
3:43 pm
Wow, Jose Mora, an opinion columnist who is biased.
Not exactly a news flash, is it?
Kyle Wingfield
January 27th, 2012
3:45 pm
Tiberius: There is an endless stream of readers who seem genuinely shocked that I inject my opinion into what I write.
Dusty
January 27th, 2012
3:45 pm
yessir, 3:37
My condolences, sir. Sad to be blind and deaf. Forgive me, if I am wrong. Maybe you were born last week. Otherwise, you would have heard of Rev. Wright, minister for Prez Obama for 20 years.
Texas Kev
January 27th, 2012
3:47 pm
@Odis
Yeah Ron Paul is clearly the biggest racist/bigot remaining in the GOP field……I mean, thats exactly why he’s the only candidate up there who has the balls to address the REAL racial injustice that continues to thrive in our country, the war on drugs. Not even Obama will go anywhere near the subject.
You clowns that continue to bash Dr. Paul about race issues are either successfully brainwashed by the MSM, or just plain ignorant.
Linda
January 27th, 2012
3:48 pm
Kyle, you must be kidding! “Assuming he finished the job in less than a four-year term…” How long does it take to hide the key to the front door? I would turn him in to a nomad. He could be the roaming leader, sort of what Biden does. Dr. Paul could flit around from one building to another until he had a budget surplus. Shouldn’t take him more than a few months. We can’t wait 4 more years to get ONE agency turned around. Between Dr. Paul & Sen. Paul, they can rid DC of the pork.
Hillbilly D
January 27th, 2012
3:52 pm
an opinion columnist who is biased.
All opinion columists are biased. That’s not a big deal because we know that going in.
It’s the reporters, editors, news directors, etc., who claim to be unbiased, that you need to worry about. No human being is totally unbiased but the good ones are professional enough, that you don’t know what their biases are. With an opinion columist, you know what his/her biases are because they generally don’t try to hide them.
Of course, if you’re watching a talking head on TV on CNN/CNBC/MSNBC/Fox/Major Networks etc., whether that talking head is employed by the network or just a guest, you need to always ask yourself, what’s in it for them. Anybody talking on TV has some kind of axe to grind, agenda to push, or angle to be worked to make money. It’s best not to pay much attention to any of them. They’re basically just performers, playing to their respective audience. It’s sort of like the old WCW, with a lower quality of showmanship.
Skip
January 27th, 2012
3:54 pm
Secretary of Defense, I dare you.
R Warren
January 27th, 2012
3:55 pm
Let the people appoint him to head the executive branch. Then he can eliminate 90% of the executive branch’s power, all illegal (ie, unconstitutional).
Tiberius - Your lightning rod of hate!
January 27th, 2012
3:57 pm
I get a big laugh out if it as well, Kyle.
I mean, don’t they have to go to the “Atlanta Opinion” page just to find you?
Wouldn’t that be their first clue that you might actually have one?
And get paid for sharing them?
Do what??????
January 27th, 2012
4:00 pm
“Wow, Jose Mora, an opinion columnist who is biased.”
You do realize that Kyle is an opinion writer, right???????
Ayn Rant
January 27th, 2012
4:03 pm
Ron Paul is already in a position to influence American government. He should seek another term in Congress.
I still hope he’ll run on the Libertarian ticket in November. Surely he can see the hopelessness of the other Republican candidates.
Don't Tread
January 27th, 2012
4:08 pm
“That told me everything I needed to know about the article that was to follow and the author’s inherent bias.”
Maybe you should click the “Jay Bookman” link – his bias may be more to your liking.
It would be fun to watch Ron Paul as head of the Department of Education…haha. He’d be Paul Bunyan in the Dead Wood Forest.
jconservative
January 27th, 2012
4:09 pm
“The era of big government is over.”
15 or so years later it is bigger than ever. And it will continue to grow. No one has the intellectual or political guts to actually cut the size of government.
To cut the size of government one needs to start with the biggest department of government.
That is the Defense Department. (SS, Medi, etc do raise some of their on revenue. They can wait.)
Until Defense and the mission of Defense is redefined, no cuts will be made there. And big defense equals big government.
Do we want to turn Ron Paul loose on the Deparment of Defense?
Real Athens
January 27th, 2012
4:10 pm
Hillbilly:
“Megadittoes.” You give too much credence to the audience. Opinion masquerading as fact to solely advance a position, sell advertising or enrich a person is what is wrong with the “news” media today.
Combine it with a decades long assault on public education and you have one of the oldest forms of warfare in the world: Divide and Conquer.
Somali Republican
January 27th, 2012
4:12 pm
Newt will win and appoint Ron in a Cabinet position of janitorial services. Win / win chaps.
Dusty
January 27th, 2012
4:12 pm
HillBilly D
I am not sure that an opinion journalist has to be biased. “Bias” is that which prevents unprejudiced consideration according to Webster, If a journalist is truly honest in his considerations, can he then be called biased? Can he not decided that one side is better than the other in his considerations?
I would say biased in journalism is one who, without consideration, presents only one view. He may be biased for money or politics or both but he will not fairly present a considered view of both sides. A synonym for biased has to be dishonest.
Linda
January 27th, 2012
4:13 pm
Any opinion writer should type in italics, except Kyle who isn’t slanted enough. There’s another opinion writer who should type upside down.
saywhat?
January 27th, 2012
4:21 pm
Ron Paul can be the Cabinet Secretary of the Department of Fail.
carlosgvv
January 27th, 2012
4:24 pm
Josh – 2:26
You seem to have it exactly backwards. Govt. regulations keep Big Business in line. Paul and others like him want as little Govt. as possible. This suits Business exactly since regulations, such as those that require safe foods and medicines, cost them money. Money means everything to them. Your health and well-being mean nothing to them.
Jay
January 27th, 2012
4:25 pm
Idiots love to say things like “Ron Paul want’s to legalize heroin and get rid of the FDA! We will have Cocaine back in Coca Cola and unsafe prescription drugs!” Noooooo, he wants to let states make their own laws (does anyone seriously think that even California is going to legalize heroin?) and get rid of government “oversight” which has failed us miserably. If you don’t think it has, then turn on the TV and watch all the prescription drug ads which warn of side effects worse than the condition they treat. My father died of congestive heart failure brought on by one such drug; he would’ve been better off just taking the insulation for his diabetes! These drugs were all rubber stamped by the FDA! In their rush to “protect us all” foolish liberals will empower the biggest, most corrupt and heavily armed corporation of them all – government!
Tiberius - Your lightning rod of hate!
January 27th, 2012
4:26 pm
Real Athens, what’s your problem with newspapers selling advertising?
They don’t write themselves, you know. It takes people and people do this kind of stuff for money. Get it?
Streetracer
January 27th, 2012
4:26 pm
To somebody upthere around 3:00
I like your Twain quote, and will offer another.
“Do”t say the world owes you a living. It owes you nothing. It was here first.”
Hillbilly D
January 27th, 2012
4:27 pm
Dusty
I’d disagree with you on bias. None of us can look at everything with 100% objectivity, that means the way we look at those things is skewed to a certain extent. Bias doesn’t necessarily have to be overt. In the example of a news director, bias can be just in deciding what is a story and what isn’t. Something I think is very important, he may not think is important at all. That’s a result of both of our inherent biases. Many times, those who present only one view, don’t even realize their doing it. How many times have you seen a poston a blog or a talking head on TV that starts out, “we all believe…….”? We don’t all believe anything. Everybody is biased, in my opinion, including me; just some more than others. It’s the ones in the major media who present themselves that present themselves as unbiased, that I trust the least.
JF McNamara
January 27th, 2012
4:28 pm
Kyle was hired to be biased. The job title was for a conservative blogger.
Linda
January 27th, 2012
4:28 pm
Is it true that all green companies who get govt. loans, subsidies & grants go bankrupt? I have a new product that saves electricity in the use of clothes dryers. Now, I’m afraid to ask for a govt. handout.
BTW, it’s a green umbrella.
Don't Tread
January 27th, 2012
4:28 pm
“Paul and others like him want as little Govt. as possible.”
You and other socialists like you want as much government as possible. More government=less freedom.
Michael H. Smith
January 27th, 2012
4:30 pm
Ron wouldn’t take a cabinet post and he is running to shape the party platform with at least some of his agenda. He knows he can’t win the Presidency but he will have some influence this time around I feel sure of it. Some of his positions are too far out, while others are in lock step with the Constitution.
Karl Marx
January 27th, 2012
4:35 pm
You seem to have it exactly backwards. Govt. regulations keep Big Business in line.
ROFL… a fine job Barney Frank and Chris Dodd did with FM FM…and a masterful job Obribetaker’s energy department did with the Green Energy companies you tool.
Real Athens
January 27th, 2012
4:37 pm
Got it? I used to do it. Editors were always quick to never offend advertisers, hence, bias or censorship based on revenue.
You do know that Tiberius was a megalomaniacal, insane (from ingesting lead) pedophile whose insanity brought about the end of the Roman empire.
That and Christianity. Read Suetonius.
http://www.gutenberg.org/files/6400/6400-h/6400-h.htm
Linda
January 27th, 2012
4:37 pm
Conservatives love govt. more than liberals. We love the Declaration of Independence, the Constitution & the Bill of Rights, exactly word for word, exactly like they were written. We believe in legal amendments as provided for in the Constitution. We honor all three bodies of law.
Conservatives also love America. We honor our flag & our pledge of allegiance & wish our school children knew what they were & the history of this greatest country in the world.
Road Scholar
January 27th, 2012
4:39 pm
Medicine cabinent?
Put him in charge of all super pacs…Who thought that these were a good idea?
Dusty
January 27th, 2012
4:42 pm
HillBilly D
I believe that you are correct. Nobody is perfect. Therefore everybody must be biased.
But we must change the definition of bias if we go with that. If I think the USA is the best country in the world, I am biased because no country is without fault and therefore the USA cannot be the “best’.
But. if that is my opinion after considering all that I know about other countries, am I biased? If I say “Other countries have faults but I believe the USA has the least.” am I less biased?
PS..I looked up “bias” in the thesaurus and it gave 25 different meanings to “bias”. Covers a lot of unpleasant things.
Tiberius - Your lightning rod of hate!
January 27th, 2012
4:43 pm
Did you “do it” for free, Real Athens?
I thought not.
And the moniker “Tiberius” comes from something else entirely, not that your childish attempt to insult me did so.
Real Athens
January 27th, 2012
4:45 pm
Linda:
Quit being a simpleton.
http://www.investopedia.com/articles/basics/11/introduction-to-government-subsidies.asp#axzz1khIAZCpA
http://www.investopedia.com/articles/economics/11/how-governments-influence-markets.asp#axzz1khIAZCpA
There is no such thing as a “free” market, not for a very long time.
Real Athens
January 27th, 2012
4:47 pm
OK, “something else entirely”. No, I didn’t do it for free. I chose not to do it because of the reasons I stated.
My intent was not to insult, only to educate.
Odis
January 27th, 2012
4:48 pm
@ Texas Kev – Actually the Justice Department under President Obama has taken a stand on the drug war when the fought for and changed the sentancing guidelines so that offenders charge with possession of crack cocaine (mostly blacks) receive the same type of sentance as people charge with cocaine possession (mostly white). Historically individuals who had been conviced of some sort of crack cocaine possession were sentanced more harshly. But I also think there is no easy solution for the drug war. I do think that we as a country should continue to go after the dealers and pushers and continue to sound the alarm over the dangers of drugs.
I know Ron Paul doesn’t even want the government to do that, and he favors legalizing drugs, but I think that’s an even worse position than the country current position on combating drugs. I basically think that RP is unfit to be commander in chief.
I Report (-: You Whine )-: mmm, mmmm, mmmmm! Just sayin...
January 27th, 2012
4:48 pm
Baghdad Joe Biden: Dems Will Win Back House
Tiberius - Your lightning rod of hate!
January 27th, 2012
4:49 pm
Yeah, right, Real Athens.
Hillbilly D
January 27th, 2012
4:53 pm
Dusty
As you probably know, I never paid much attention to what’s in the dictionary.
carlosgvv
January 27th, 2012
4:55 pm
Karl Marx – 4:35
Because some liberals don’t always get it right, you condemn all liberals. At the same time, you praise your bought and paid for conservatives. Big Business and the Republicans love simple tools like you.
carlosgvv
January 27th, 2012
4:57 pm
Don’t Tread – 4:28
It’s clear you know little or nothing about Socialism. Please get some education before posting here again since the only thing you are accomplishing is making a fool of yourself.
Karl Marx
January 27th, 2012
5:02 pm
Enter Baghdad Joe Biden: Dems Will Win Back House
Biden reminds me of Jimmy Carter’s brother Billy except more useless. He’s like that relative at Thanksgiving that you have to psyche yourself up to tolerate for an hour. What a buffoon. I think he and the a$$ hole from the Ed Show were separated at birth.
your comments here
Rafe Hollister
January 27th, 2012
5:02 pm
Well if William Jefferson Gingrich wins it is obvious what Dr Paul will be assigned with, liasion with the Lunar colony.
Don't Tread
January 27th, 2012
5:05 pm
“It’s clear you know little or nothing about Socialism.”
I know enough about it to determine that socialism and freedom are incompatible ideologies, and I happen to like my freedom. You like socialsm, fine. There are plenty of other countries that operate on that system…go try one.
Karl Marx
January 27th, 2012
5:08 pm
you praise your bought and paid for conservatives
So you think Obama is the people’s champion? Why don’t you investigate how much money wall street is throwing to his campaign rube. So I guess that you think he will take the money then stick it to them?
Linda
January 27th, 2012
5:09 pm
Obama has dropped his hopey changie thingie (for obvious reasons). His new strategy is called Kill-A-Terrorist-A-Week Thingie. There’s a toll free number you can call if you know where a terrorist can be located. If your information leads to a killing, you have a choice of prizes: a windmill, a solar panel, a car battery or a wad of food stamps.
(The solar panels are from Solyndra & the batteries are from Ener I, both bankrupt after govt. handouts.)
Dusty
January 27th, 2012
5:10 pm
Well, Hillbilly D,
I guess we are not biased. We considered all things and agreed to disagree. (I think so.) How ’bout that!!
Now I go to look in my refrigerator without bias. Whatever is there is what they get! Almost dinner time!
Real Athens
January 27th, 2012
5:11 pm
Dusty: Maybe look up this definition?
“Description of Straw Man
The Straw Man fallacy is committed when a person simply ignores a person’s actual position and substitutes a distorted, exaggerated or misrepresented version of that position. This sort of “reasoning” has the following pattern:
Person A has position X.
Person B presents position Y (which is a distorted version of X).
Person B attacks position Y.
Therefore X is false/incorrect/flawed.
This sort of “reasoning” is fallacious because attacking a distorted version of a position simply does not constitute an attack on the position itself. One might as well expect an attack on a poor drawing of a person to hurt the person.”
Dusty
January 27th, 2012
5:15 pm
Linda,
Jonah Goldberg of the National Review ripped Obama’s address up one side and down the other. He thought it was a disaster. He makes his case quite well..
GT
January 27th, 2012
5:17 pm
When Obama wins he may do it too. Ron Paul is not a party man, he is one of the few that is consistent on the points he makes and some of those ideas are very good. I think it would be a smart move by O to appoint Paul and I think Paul is mature enough to take the offer without compromising his principles. Obama has had Republicans in his administration from the very beginning. Why not Ron Paul?
Jefferson
January 27th, 2012
5:17 pm
Why should anyone belive the GOP has changed from spend and borrow, and growing the gov’t, like the last time they were in complete power?
WHY??
Linda
January 27th, 2012
5:20 pm
The same criteria used to obtain a mortgage (that caused the deep recession) AND the same criteria used today under the Obama adm. to obtain food stamps AND the cause of global warming are all the same thing: breathing.
Rafe Hollister
January 27th, 2012
5:23 pm
Seriously, I think Dr Paul should chair a Boles/Simpson style committee on how we make health care more affordable and available. He is right, when he says government is the reason healthcare continues to become more expensive and unavailable to the average person.
Dusty
January 27th, 2012
5:26 pm
Real Athens 5:11
Are you calling me a “straw man”? No way. I am IRON WOMAN. Your convoluted collection of connived connotations is conspiratory! So there!
Now IRON WOMAN goes to cook delicious dinner (That’s a biased statement). Back to the classroom for you, Athens You just flunked out.
the original and still the best John Galt
January 27th, 2012
5:31 pm
I wouldn’t count Ron Paul out of the race just yet. Several of the Federal departments and agencies won’t need new management at all if he’s elected, since they will be going away.
He’s waking up thousands upon thousands of Americans who are tired of the same old Statist status quo.
And, besides that, he’s the only candidate who can beat The Messiah Barack The Chosen One. Newt can’t, and neither can Mitt.
Tiberius - Your lightning rod of hate!
January 27th, 2012
5:31 pm
“Why should anyone belive the GOP has changed from spend and borrow, and growing the gov’t, like the last time they were in complete power? ”
Maybe $15 TRILLION in debt?
More importantly, why do you believe that anyone can’t change their way of doing things given a change in the underlying situation?
laura
January 27th, 2012
5:34 pm
Josh, why do you say these things about Ron Paul??? Have you truly researched this or are you believing mainstream media? It takes a lot of work to research the candidates and see through the media. I have found that Ron Paul is the only honorable candidate. Make sure that you research and rely on good resources for information. There is a lot of garbage out there.
Tiberius - Your lightning rod of hate!
January 27th, 2012
5:34 pm
John Galt, that’s a lot of hope in your last comment.
Paul hasn’t come close to winning a single primary, his numbers are flat, and he polls lower than Mitt and Newt on a national basis. We know you like him, but objectively, how do you come to your conclusions regarding any movement by him in this race?
Real Athens
January 27th, 2012
5:39 pm
Dusty:
My suggestion for your studies had absolutely nothing to do with your gender and everything to do with the fallacies of your “bias” conundrum instigated with Hillbilly D (which I hope is a nod to the first Dwight Yoakam record). The straw man argument (as it’s referred) is one that is often bandied about by contributers to these OP blogs.
Nothing more, nothing less.
Enjoy your supper and remember that iron is an essential ingredient in every developing woman’s diet.
Karl Marx
January 27th, 2012
5:43 pm
He is right, when he says government is the reason healthcare continues to become more expensive and unavailable to the average person.
Umm, malpractice insurance, illegals not paying for starters….
Real Athens
January 27th, 2012
5:44 pm
John Galt: Though I revile Ayn Rand and the hypocrisy that defined her as well as the idea that her “novels” have any basis in real life or society, I have said before (and will surely again), an honest conversation/debate between Ron Paul and Barack Obama is one that would do this country a lot of good.
ragnar danneskjold
January 27th, 2012
5:47 pm
Great idea. EPA? Agriculture? HUD? HHS? Homeland Security? Paul could be highly useful. Anything but defense.
Lil' Barry Bailout (Revised Downward)
January 27th, 2012
5:52 pm
reader110: If Paul really believe in limiting government, why does he support the pro life movement whose sole purpose is telling women what they should do with their bodies?
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Because the pro-life movement isn’t telling women what they should do with their bodies. They’re opposed to what women do with the unborn child when they kill it.
If you’re opposed to having a child, don’t get pregnant. Duh.
Lil' Barry Bailout (Revised Downward)
January 27th, 2012
5:55 pm
“an honest conversation/debate between Ron Paul and Barack Obama is one that would do this country a lot of good.”
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A debate between Obozo and ANYONE who could contrast American ideals with Obozo’s anti-American, anti-capitalism, anti-private-property liberal fascist ideology of hatred would do this country a lot of good.
Linda
January 27th, 2012
5:56 pm
Real@4:45, Don’t even try to engage me in a conversation when you start out by calling me a name like a play yard bully. You are hopeless & helpless, totally unworthy of my time. Just leave me alone.
Lil' Barry Bailout (Revised Downward)
January 27th, 2012
6:01 pm
Obama-Backed Green Company Files for Bankruptcy
Ener1, the electric car battery maker that received more than $100 million in government funding from the Obama administration has filed for bankruptcy protection, the company announced Thursday.
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Thanks, Democrats.
More government interference in free markets, more failure and waste.
Tiberius - Your lightning rod of hate!
January 27th, 2012
6:02 pm
“Because the pro-life movement isn’t telling women what they should do with their bodies.”
Then why do they tell women who are victims of rape or incest that they can’t have an abortion?
TRUTH
January 27th, 2012
6:07 pm
He should be in a cabinet….(haven’t we told you to keep an eye on our crazy uncle….)
Kyle that would be presuming that a Mitt or a Newt actually won the general election??
Lil' Barry Bailout (Revised Downward)
January 27th, 2012
6:08 pm
Because they’re against murder.
redneckbluedog
January 27th, 2012
6:10 pm
Lil’ Barry Bailout (Revised Downward)
January 27th, 2012
6:01 pm
Obama-Backed Green Company Files for Bankruptcy
Ener1, the electric car battery maker that received more than $100 million in government funding from the Obama administration has filed for bankruptcy protection, the company announced Thursday.
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I probably wouldn’t argue this with anyone that knows anything at all about current events….because Mitch Daniels and Dick Lugar lobbied the government HEAVILY to land this company….
Lil' Barry Bailout (Revised Downward)
January 27th, 2012
6:15 pm
Mitch Daniels and Dick Lugar lobbied the government HEAVILY to land this company
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Mitch Daniels and Dick Lugar didn’t blow millions in American’s federal tax money.
Obozo did.
Thanks, Democrats.
Tiberius - Your lightning rod of hate!
January 27th, 2012
6:18 pm
“Because they’re against murder.”
But they’re for rape and incest?
Great position to take. Punish the woman for the crime committed against her. And oh, yeah. Please provide the name and DOB of the “murdered” victim.
Karl Marx
January 27th, 2012
6:22 pm
Tiberius-Fearless Defender of the 1%
http://www.johnstonsarchive.net/policy/abortion/abreasons.html
Lil' Barry Bailout (Revised Downward)
January 27th, 2012
6:25 pm
But they’re for rape and incest?
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They’re against murder.
Lil' Barry Bailout (Revised Downward)
January 27th, 2012
6:28 pm
Hit-run crash takes life of unborn baby
The driver of the Ford faces charges of hit-and-run and second-degree feticide, police said.
http://www.ajc.com/news/henry/hit-run-crash-takes-1320325.html
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Apparently, not having a name or DOB doesn’t change the fact that the unborn child was murdered.
Linda
January 27th, 2012
6:29 pm
There’s an unprecedented snow storm in Alaska (global warming?). I encourage Obama to donate his shovel to the residents. It would also help the economy & his polls.
Lil' Barry Bailout (Revised Downward)
January 27th, 2012
6:32 pm
We need all the shovels we can get down here in the lower 48, having just been subjected to Obozo’s state of the union speech.
What a sh**storm that was!
MarkV
January 27th, 2012
6:35 pm
redneckbluedog @6:10 pm
You might have added that the talk about 100 million federal dollars lost because of Ener1 bankruptcy is a lie.
Lil' Barry Bailout (Revised Downward)
January 27th, 2012
6:37 pm
Obozo has a bad habit of investing hundreds of millions of our tax dollars in companies that go bankrupt.
Linda
January 27th, 2012
6:55 pm
redneck, Did you know that they’ve got computers in the jury waiting rooms now? You can do the same thing there that you do wherever you are now: blog. The last time I was called to jury duty, I was looking forward to being called on a high profile case, writing a book & making a million dollars. It didn’t work out quite that way, but I felt patriot. I take advantage of my freedom to vote & my civic duty to serve. We worked for years to obtain voting rights for women & minorities & promote justice for the accused. You don’t vote to avoid jury duty. What a hypocrite!
Tiberius - Your lightning rod of hate!
January 27th, 2012
7:14 pm
Just proves even the cops can be fools, LBB. Anyone can be charged with a “crime”. Making it stick? Not so much.
Real Athens
January 27th, 2012
7:17 pm
Linda:
Words have power, therefor they beget consequences. If you’re going to publicly espouse yours you should be ready to defend them.
There is a record snowfall in Alaska, and yes, many scientists (which you obviously are not one of) around the globe who suspect the effects of global warming could be a culprit. The jury is out. Pardon me if I listen to them and examine their models before adhering to your comments at 6:29.
Talk about oversimplification.
Hillbilly D
January 27th, 2012
7:22 pm
Real Athens @ 5:39
My name here is a nod to my home and ancestory. My family in North Georgia goes back over 200 years. It really doesn’t have anything to do with Dwight’s first record, which was a masterpiece by the way, but I take any reference to it as a compliment. I first used the name Hillbilly Deluxe, as a play on words, from a song that I don’t really even like, by Brooks and Dunn. I later shortened it because I thought the Deluxe part sounded uppity, which ain’t me.
I once saw a documentary about Dwight and I was really struck to listen to him talk about his family and upbringing. Often, celebrities tend to distance themselves from their past or to put it down. None of that for Dwight, he spoke of how his parents, grandparents, etc, were as fine a people as you would ever want to meet. I’ve always liked and respected him as a musician but when I heard him say that, my opinion of him went up a few notches. He’s never lost touch with his roots and treats them with the respect and dignity that they deserve. Hope I do the same thing with mine.
Anyway, back to the festivities.
Tiberius - Your lightning rod of hate!
January 27th, 2012
7:25 pm
Hillbilly D, you are one of the least uppity people on this, or any other, blog.
Real Athens
January 27th, 2012
7:33 pm
Hillbilly D:
‘Twas meant as a compliment. My family arrived in Wilmington, NC from Scotland and Ireland in the early 1700’s. None made it as far as Georgia, instead they settled in VA and NC. I spent several years in Young Harris in the early 80’s and in the Friendship Community outside of Hiawassee in the 90’s.
I think Crow Gap is one of the most magical places on Earth.
It is my greatest desire to return to the NE Georgia mountains to live one of these days. There or over in the Brasstown Valley between Murphy and Warne.
Rafe Hollister
January 27th, 2012
7:44 pm
Tiberius, not getting into the abortion fight, I can’t get pregnant and it is not my fight, but your argument with LBB reminds me of how hypocritical our criminal “justice” system is.
LBB is right in Georgia fetacide is a felony and abortion is legal. Go figure, kinda like some of the drug law applications, where if you are caught with pot in California it is a $10 fine and if caught in S GA they try to send you to prison. What a crazy way to administer “justice”.
Lil' Barry Bailout (Revised Downward)
January 27th, 2012
8:16 pm
Anyone can be charged with a “crime”. Making it stick? Not so much.
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But it is a crime. The cops didn’t pass the law that made it so.
Linda
January 27th, 2012
8:16 pm
Real@7:17, Thank you for eliminating your play yard tactics in addressing me (sort of). I have a Bachelor of Science degree from one of the largest universities in the Southeastern US. Does that perhaps qualify me to give an opinion on the science of global warming? Maybe. Maybe not. I believed it hook, line & sinker in the beginning. I have done extensive research on it. I believe that it is the greatest hoax ever pulled on the American people & the world. The globe could be warming as a result of our coming out of the mini Ice Age. Remember 5th grade science? What I don’t believe is that politicians in DC can do anything about it. The fact that the UN is the leader of the science & the remedies (spreading our wealth to other countries) (burying CO2 in the ground) is very suspect. The lament that the “science is settled” & that deniers are disingenuous is suspect. The “fact” that there are more scientists that believe in man-made global warming than scientists that don’t is suspect. It’s not a vote. The fact that models collected from a few years differ from models collected from thousands of years is suspect. The fact that global warming fear mongers don’t adhere to their preachings is suspect. The fact that global warming fear mongers benefit greatly from their cap & trade exploits is suspect.
I understand that you do not believe in God or the Bible, a heathen you are, but someone created photosynthesis, that is we breath in oxygen & emit carbon dioxide, & plants take in carbon dioxide & emit oxygen. The fact that global warming experts chose carbon dioxide as the culprit is the most giveaway fallacy of the entire argument. Common sense, anyone?
Lil' Barry Bailout (Revised Downward)
January 27th, 2012
8:25 pm
Democrats in action:
O’Malley wants to tax apps, e-books, other downloads
ANNAPOLIS — Marylanders might have some extra inspiration when they download “Angry Birds” to their smartphones in coming months.
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More Democrats in action:
Hawaii may keep track of all Web sites visited
Hawaii’s legislature is weighing an unprecedented proposal to curb the privacy of Aloha State residents: requiring Internet providers to keep track of every Web site their customers visit.
Democratic Rep. John Mizuno of Oahu is the lead sponsor.
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Democrats: Liberal fascists.
Real Athens
January 27th, 2012
9:14 pm
Linda:
You’re doubling down on … nothing. Again. You tout your degree from so and so. The President graduated Cum Laude from the finest law school in America yet you call him a fool. Why should I hold your degree to any standard of anything. You respect nothing but yourself. You know nothing about me yet you draw some asinine conclusion regarding my belief system. What pomposity. Your argument has more holes in it than the brain of a mad cow. I won’t even begin. You are unable to see the dichotomy in your own argument.
Your argument is ALMOST entirely built of straw. As I posted earlier today:
“The Straw Man fallacy is committed when a person simply ignores a person’s actual position and substitutes a distorted, exaggerated or misrepresented version of that position. This sort of ‘reasoning’ has the following pattern:
Person A has position X.
Person B presents position Y (which is a distorted version of X).
Person B attacks position Y.
Therefore X is false/incorrect/flawed.
This sort of “reasoning” is fallacious because attacking a distorted version of a position simply does not constitute an attack on the position itself. One might as well expect an attack on a poor drawing of a person to hurt the person.”
You really do slay me.
Real Athens
January 27th, 2012
9:17 pm
LBB:
Newsflash:
http://georgiaslate.com/report-nathan-deal-considers-extending-sales-tax-enforcement-to-internet-purchases.html
ATLANTA — Gov. Nathan Deal is considering extending the state sales tax to online purchases, he told newspaper publishers Thursday.
Eight states already tax electronic commerce, but most states have held off because Congress had signaled it would devise a national model to simplify the thousands of tax rates used by state and local governments across the country.
Deal said he wasn’t content to wait on Congress to act on immigration enforcement when he signed a tough law last year and that states may grow tired of waiting for federal leadership on e-commerce, too.
Linda
January 27th, 2012
9:39 pm
Real@9:14, I admire Obama for his intelligence & degrees (education) & many other aspects. He’s a man to be commended, & he’s not a fool. He knows exactly what he is doing. He is deliberately sabotaging the economy.
I’m only repeating what you have said about yourself, over & over.
Funny that you didn’t even address what I posted about “global warming.”
Real Athens
January 27th, 2012
9:54 pm
This blog is full of your comments regarding Obama and his intelligence, one only need hit the scroll key. Your “admiration” has been on display for all to read.
You have never heard me once, mention anything about my belief system. Ever. Period. Any other claim is a lie. I’ve admonished people here who use religion as a tool of intolerance or oppression. Please point me to something in the New Testament that preaches either of these “virtues.”
I addressed your comments regarding global warming. Reread from this point on: “Your argument has more holes in it than the brain of a mad cow. I won’t even begin. You are unable to see the dichotomy in your own argument …” What’s really funny is you were unable to comprehend.
You care only about being “right.” Being correct be damned. Contrary to your belief the world isn’t “red” or “blue” or even black or white. It’s a myriad of colors and shades of grey.
I defend your right to say what you believe. Fly it up your flagpole, just don’t expect me to salute it.
Linda
January 27th, 2012
10:37 pm
Real@9:54, I have never discounted the fact that Obama is intelligent & well-educated. I just don’t agree with his policies. I have sense.
Oh, yes, you have proclaimed your believe system over & over again on this blog.
The Bible condemns any sex outside of marriage. It explicitly states that homosexuality is an “abomination,” many times. If you missed these, maybe you should scan the Bible again. If you are for same sex marriage, what is your new definition of marriage? Does it include plurals & non-discriminatory mandates as to age, death, species, etc.?
I missed your addressing my comments on global warming. Where are they?
jeff_r0x
January 27th, 2012
11:57 pm
A rather dumb premise for a dumb article, by what seems to be less than a stellar thinking man. (At least I think it’s a man.) The premise would work, IF Ron paul were not running for president. It’s funny how the press think that because they’ve discussed it certain ways around the water cooler, than Ron Paul could never win. They are obviously too dishonest in their labors to consider the polls, being that he is current neck and neck with Obama in a general election. And this without half of the name recognition of Romney and certainly less than the sitting president. Just wait as this thing roils out, and the press scrambles to support some other phony candidate that is as corrupt as they are. No one mentions the number of delegates that are unavailable to Gingrich and even Santorum. Given the split between the three “same old, same olds,” not one of them will have a majority of delegates. It would also be a mathematically impossible feat for one of those three to beat Obama in November without the Ron Paul army, which they will NEVER have in their corner.
celebs4truthcom
January 28th, 2012
1:58 am
OMG! Ron Paul gets two pivotal Maine endorsements Saturday! Share this EVERYWHERE! http://www.examiner.com/libertarian-in-denver/ron-paul-to-receive-two-pivotal-endorsements-at-maine-events
independent thinker
January 28th, 2012
6:03 am
Just one more ignorant and stupid Texas politician who has a limited grip on reality
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January 28th, 2012
7:22 am
I’m in total agreement with Kyle. Secretary of Veterans Affairs would be perfect?
Lil' Barry Bailout (Revised Downward)
January 28th, 2012
10:08 am
As long as half of Americans aren’t paying any federal income tax, you Obamaggots whining about anyone else’s tax rates have no credibility. Shut your mouths and get to work getting your parasite base contributing to funding their country’s government.
Real Athens
January 28th, 2012
11:12 am
Linda @ 10:37.
Please, don’t drink and type.
Lynn
January 28th, 2012
9:54 pm
Just so long as we wouldn’t have to rely on the charity of others for medical care, when insurance companies will no longer cover people with pre-existing conditions (if you get your wish, Kyle), your suggestion makes good sense. Dr. Paul is quite an impressive man, very easy to like with loads of great ideas, both parties should listen to.