Newt Gingrich’s immigration gambit (Updated with video)

One of the headlines from last night’s GOP presidential debate, which focused on foreign policy, actually has more to do with domestic policy: Whether Newt Gingrich, the latest anti-Romney frontrunner, kinda-sorta endorsed amnesty for illegal immigrants who have been in our country for a long time.

I had to go back and listen to a recording of the debate because, watching it live, I thought he might have erred by not phrasing his policy in the conventional conservative manner of 1) secure the border to stanch the flow of illegal immigrants, then 2) decide what to do with the ones already here. In fact, here’s what he said (there’s a partial transcript below the video):

I think you’ve got to deal with this as a comprehensive approach that starts with controlling the border … I believe ultimately, you have to find some system — once you’ve put every piece in place, which includes a guest-worker program, you need something like a World War Two selective service board that frankly reviews the people who are here. If you’ve come here recently, you have no ties to this country, you ought to go home, period. If you’ve been here 25 years and you have three kids and two grandkids, you’ve been paying taxes and obeying the law, you belong to a local church, I don’t think we’re going to separate you from your family, uproot you forcefully, and kick you out. … You get to be legal, but you don’t get a path to citizenship.

I am not quite sure that puts him far at all outside the Republican mainstream:

1. His plan “starts with controlling the border.”

2. He then adds a guest-worker program — although, admittedly, that could spark a backlash depending on how it’s done.

3. He then acknowledges that we’re not going to deport 10 million to 12 million people, and offers a kind of delineation — albeit a very vague one — between those who have been here awhile and otherwise obeyed the law, and those who haven’t. All while offering praise for immigrants who come here legally.

4. And for the ones who get to stay, he advocates only legality, not citizenship. That’s an important distinction, because Democrats think they can win generations of Hispanic support by turning illegal immigrants into legal Democratic voters.

In sketching that outline, he uses some language that I think could be very effective in winning over some skeptics, courting independents and, potentially, going some way toward making amends with Hispanics.

Specifically, I am certain the reference to “belong[ing] to a local church” was no accident. Now, I rather doubt a President Gingrich would try to impose a religious condition for an illegal immigrant to be legalized or deported — or that American courts would uphold such a test. But it is exceedingly likely that he thinks there’s appeal here for the religious wing of the party, some of which has voiced its discomfort with hard lines on immigration issues. That’s particularly likely in light of his conversion to the Catholic church, to which many Hispanic immigrants of course belong. His later reference to the “party of the family” further underscores the outreach to social conservatives.

Are there potential problems with Gingrich’s approach? Sure. As I noted above, his time-based delineation, between those who could stay here and those who would have to leave, comes off as rather arbitrary and possibly too malleable. (I have not yet had time to read the study to which he referred; that might clear up some of the vagueness.) And while he nodded to the notion of securing the border first, he didn’t harp on it, and people will rightly wonder how much emphasis and priority he really puts on that before everything else. Anything less than absolute emphasis and priority could sink him.

All that said, I was intrigued that he would go out on this limb so soon after rising in the opinion polls. It tells me that he’s confident in his chances (not that many people have ever doubted Gingrich’s confidence) — so confident that he’s already looking for ways to bring traditional GOP groups such as social conservatives as well as independents under the Gingrich tent.

That’s the kind of forward-thinking maneuver none of the other Romney alternatives, from Michele Bachmann to Rick Perry to Herman Cain, has been able to pull off. The coverage of and reaction to his immigration gambit may tell us whether Gingrich will succeed where they failed.

– By Kyle Wingfield

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111 comments Add your comment

getalife

November 23rd, 2011
12:57 pm

rag,

You are a good lil con but they want to deport you.

[...] the border,” placing him not “far at all outside the Republican mainstream,” says Kyle Wingfield in The Atlanta Journal-Constitution. But “kinda-sorta endorse[ing] amnesty” is clearly the kind of “forward-thinking [...]

getalife

November 23rd, 2011
1:25 pm

Common sense by focusing on aq was the right strategy.

They will get the other two leaders soon.

newt told you cons to stay scared for the rest of your miserable lives but real Americans were never scared of a small gang of radicals.

It is time to go back to being Americans and restore American rights.

Ron Paul is right on the patriot act.

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November 23rd, 2011
3:49 pm

I suppose but I’d rather have a giant electric fence.

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Michael H. Smith

November 23rd, 2011
3:50 pm

As said before “newt” is too smart by half.

Bye “newt”, Id’ like say it has been nice having you around but not really.

Hillbilly D

November 23rd, 2011
4:06 pm

Democrats see illegal immigrants as future votes and Republicans see them as cheap labor. Nothing is likely to ever be done about changing things.

The problem could be solved, if they really wanted to. Any employer caught knowingly hiring an illegal would be fined $50,000 per illegal employee. That’ll never happen, though. People make a lot of money off of the status quo.

Kyle Wingfield

November 23rd, 2011
4:32 pm

Folks, I’m checking out for Thanksgiving and won’t be back until Monday. I’ll post a holiday-related column around 6 p.m., but nothing else is scheduled until Monday morning.

Per AJC.com policy, comments will be held in moderation starting now. I’ll try to log in and release a batch or two between now and then.

I hope each and every one of you have a great Thanksgiving.

saywhat?

November 23rd, 2011
5:01 pm

“And for the ones who get to stay, he advocates only legality, not citizenship. That’s an important distinction, because Democrats think they can win generations of Hispanic support by turning illegal immigrants into legal Democratic voters.”

This statement explains alot about your views and perceptions Kyle. Neither I, nor anybody I know cares one whit whether people caught up in the US immigration system will one day vote Democratic. That you think this is the primary concern of Democrats on this issue shows how out of touch you are with reality. I doubt whether you have ever even questioned this presumption of yours, and accept it as basic fact- like water is wet, the sky is blue, liberals take positions based primarily on how it may help/hurt the Democratic party.

This is so far from the truth as to be laughable. I have heard the argument from conservatives before, but always brushed it off as some sort of throwaway rhetorical talking point that people would throw out there while not really believing it. I honestly didn’t think anybody actually thought it represented some sort of universal truth. The problem with believing such drivel unfortunately, is that it then becomes a building block in the foundation of your world outlook and every opinion you have is in part based on a falsehood. And if you believe this one falsehood, how many other false assumptions do you also unthinkingly hold to be bedrock truth, and how much more do they warp your worldview?

My concern, and the concern of the people I know, is that the illegal immigration problem is dealt with in a way that is humane to the people involved, yet in our nation’s best interest (the two are not mutually exclusive), that it is done pragmatically in the most cost effective way. I don’t care if a few people “get away with something” if the process as a whole helps the country. I also would prefer that as few of the innocent as possible (such as kids brought in by parents) suffer due to rigid adherence to ideology over fair mindedness.

Ray Marine

November 23rd, 2011
6:26 pm

Newt just lot my vote if he is going to have amnesty.
Twenty-five million illegals must go.

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November 24th, 2011
2:36 pm

What would Gingrich’s plan for dealing with illegal immigration look like?

Feasible.

Gingrich put forth two ideas–an employer-controlled guest worker program and juries of local citizens who would review the cases of illegal immigrants and decide which of them would get to stay.

Gingrich’s first idea is called a “red card” program, and is the brainchild of Helen Krieble. Employers would circumvent the immigration system’s bureaucracy and give out temporary guest worker visas to immigrants that they would fund. Those immigrants would only be allowed to live in the United States as long as they were employed with their sponsor. If they had children while in America, those children would not be granted automatic citizenship under the 14th amendment, The Washington Post’s Suzy Khimm explains.

According to Reihan Salam at National Review, the plan is meant to address the plight of immigrants who don’t actually want to become U.S. citizens. These immigrants want to send money back to their home country to provide a better life for their families, and eventually return, Krieble hypothesizes. As border security has ramped up dramatically over the past five years, many migrants who in the past would come to the United States each picking season and then returned home are now staying in America. The red card program would legalize that circular migration–providing farms and other immigrant-dependent employers with labor without forcing those workers into illegality. But critics say the program would create a “second class” of psuedo-citizens who would be too dependent on their employers and vulnerable to abuse.

The other part of Gingrich’s plan would give local control over deportation proceedings. “Once you’ve put every piece in place, which includes the guest worker program [and tougher border security], you need something like a World War II Selective Service Board that, frankly, reviews the people who are here,” Gingrich said.

Happy Thanksgiving!

independent thinker

November 25th, 2011
11:07 pm

Just Newt letting off gas as usual – probably says the opposite next week – everything he says is pure flatulence.