Poll: Tea party trumps OWS

If a recent opinion survey by Public Policy Polling is any indication, the end of the full Occupation of Wall Street might have been the best thing that could have happened to the movement. Not because it will earn them public sympathy, but because the occupation itself had become the least sympathetic thing about the group.

From PPP’s write-up of its poll:

The Occupy Wall Street movement is not wearing well with voters across the country. Only 33% now say that they are supportive of its goals, compared to 45% who say they oppose them. That represents an 11 point shift in the wrong direction for the movement’s support compared to a month ago when 35% of voters said they supported it and 36% were opposed. Most notably independents have gone from supporting Occupy Wall Street’s goals 39/34, to opposing them 34/42. … what the downturn in Occupy Wall Street’s image suggests is that voters are seeing the movement as more about the ‘Occupy’ than the ‘Wall Street.’ The controversy over the protests is starting to drown out the actual message.

The author, PPP’s Tom Jensen, says he believes this turnaround is not because Americans are not concerned about inequality; to support that opinion, he cites three earlier polls (done, let’s note, for very a couple of very left-wing organizations). But those results don’t exactly square with the contrast between support for OWS’s goals and those of the tea party, which he mentions in the same post:

Voters don’t care for the Tea Party either, with 42% saying they support its goals to 45% opposed. But asked whether they have a higher opinion of the Tea Party or Occupy Wall Street movement the Tea Party wins out 43-37, representing a flip from last month when Occupy Wall Street won out 40-37 on that question. Again the movement with independents is notable- from preferring Occupy Wall Street 43-34, to siding with the Tea Party 44-40.

I don’t think one can equate 42-45 approval/disapproval ratings, within the poll’s margin of error (3.5 percent), with a 33-45 split. And the rest of the numbers, particularly the ones for independent voters, speak for themselves.

To the degree that the tea party and OWS have identified some of the same problems — e.g., bailouts and other examples of crony capitalism — it would appear the tea partyers are better spokespeople. If the Occupiers want to change that, they’ll have to figure out how to do something other than form dirty, crime-ridden squatters’ encampments. That wasn’t working.

– By Kyle Wingfield

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122 comments Add your comment

Quagmire

November 16th, 2011
12:13 pm

Jefferson

November 16th, 2011
12:16 pm

Both groups are the same except one group is younger with ideals, and the other is grumpy older greedy folks that know they have to kiss butt for their existance. Both have a bone to pick. Neither bother or impress me.

getalife

November 16th, 2011
12:17 pm

Cherry picking polls again. There are polls that favor the OWS movement.

cons love corruption and bow down for the 1%

Stop whining about corruption until you stand up and fight it.

1961_Boomer

November 16th, 2011
12:20 pm

If anyone need any more proof that MSM, including NPR, are liberally biased, one only need to casually examine the news stories of each movement, and the ACTUAL police reports from each movement. It is clear that the Tea Party movements were generally non violent, respectable gatherings. OWS are irreverent squatters camps who took advantage of the first amendment to commit crime, spread disease, and infringe on the rights (and disgust) of everyone around them.

They would have done far better to gather for a few weeks, organize the basic infrastructure of the movement, and get the H*LL out. They overstayed their welcome and showed their true trashy welfare-seeking nature.

Scooter

November 16th, 2011
12:22 pm

The Tea Party wants government to save money by reducing their size. The Occupiers want to empower government to enforce the will of the majority.

getalife

November 16th, 2011
12:26 pm

“TOXIC ASSETS: Gingrich Reportedly Made At Least $1.6 Million From Freddie Mac Contracts.”

The gop had total power and grew the government and exploded the deficit.

The tea party should have stood up during the gop destruction of our country.

Better late than never.

Ross Perot

November 16th, 2011
12:35 pm

I think most people lost support of the OWS crowds when they realized after so many weeks that these people neither had a job nor were going to school to better themselves and their lot in life….

Hillbilly D

November 16th, 2011
12:38 pm

How about “none of the above”?

Tiberius - Your lightning rod of hate!

November 16th, 2011
12:44 pm

Not surprised at the poll numbers. Most Americans favor individual freedom over whiners every day of the week.

UGA 1999

November 16th, 2011
12:44 pm

AMEN! It is time for the OWS criminals to go home.

@@

November 16th, 2011
12:46 pm

BIG DIFFERENCE between the Tea Party movement and Occupy’s.

The Tea Party chose to occupy the WH. The OWS crowd chose a pup tent. The Tea Party is planted within. The OWS crowd are potted plants, easily moved when folks have had enough.

’twas just a matter of time.

Rodney

November 16th, 2011
12:48 pm

Great reporting from one of the best media outlets in the country………..

Ross Perot

November 16th, 2011
12:48 pm

Corruption? How bout Solyndra Getalife? I guess you blind loyalist libtards don’t have to do anything about it if you can’t bring yourself to acknowledge it.

The Tea Party Crazies

November 16th, 2011
12:49 pm

To the degree that the tea party and OWS have identified some of the same problems — e.g., bailouts and other examples of crony capitalism — it would appear the tea partyers are better spokespeople.

IT IS NOT THAT THE TEA PARTYERS ARE BETTER SPOKESPEOPLE, they intimidate people with their gun carrying, racist, hate monkering rhetoric.

I would rather confront a hippy OWS supporter than an racist, gun carrying, hate monkering, racist tea partyer.

@@

November 16th, 2011
12:55 pm

Crazies:

I would rather confront a hippy OWS supporter than an racist, gun carrying, hate monkering, racist tea partyer.

The guy who fired a shot into the WH is suspected of having lived among the OWS crowd. Granted, he’s mentally ill…but then many among the OWS crowd appear to be mentally challenged.

A match made in Obamaville.

sailfish

November 16th, 2011
12:55 pm

The tea party? Where are they now? The ows crowd has a passion for their cause, sometimes its not pretty but they have changed the conversation. More power to them.

@@

November 16th, 2011
12:57 pm

Michael Barone said it best.

Tea partiers will grouse if Romney is nominated. But maybe they need patience and perseverance. One lesson of history is that a movement can reshape a party. Another is that it takes time.

Lil' Barry Bailout (Revised Downward)

November 16th, 2011
12:57 pm

Rational, clear-headed, logical thought processes beat pooping on police cars. No surprise.

sailfish

November 16th, 2011
12:58 pm

I think if romney is nominated a small percentage of republican voters stay home, that will be the difference in the election.

Lil' Barry Bailout (Revised Downward)

November 16th, 2011
12:59 pm

“the tea party. Where are they now?”
——

Congress.

Any more simple minded questions I can answer for you?

UGA 1999

November 16th, 2011
12:59 pm

THE TEA PARTY….HAHA you just used the word “racist” when spouting your hate for the Tea Party. That is hilarious.

BTW our candidate is blacker than yours! haha

sailfish

November 16th, 2011
1:00 pm

“Rational, clear-headed, logical thought processes”

Unfortunately, those traits were severely lacking with the tee party peoples.

Del

November 16th, 2011
1:01 pm

In case no ones noticed the Democrats who had hopes of co-opting the occupier movement as their very own Tea Party have now been avoiding them as they might a leper colony. The left can make themselves look bad without any help from a heard of misfits.

sailfish

November 16th, 2011
1:02 pm

Oh yeah, I forgot in congress, the minority of a minority, the dunderheads who blew up the gov’t this summer, the morons who don’t know how to govern – one termers.

Del

November 16th, 2011
1:02 pm

Make that a herd of misfits.

Lil' Barry Bailout (Revised Downward)

November 16th, 2011
1:04 pm

The Tea Party is in Congress. The OWSers are back home with Mom & Dad.

UGA 1999

November 16th, 2011
1:04 pm

Sailfish…..really you want to blame Obama’s reckless spending on the House? Great work. All that crap was done when the Dem’s powered the House. Dude go back to sleep.

sailfish

November 16th, 2011
1:06 pm

uga

Funny how raising the debt never was such a fiasco before? Wake up dude!

UGA 1999

November 16th, 2011
1:08 pm

Sailfish…you are right because NO ONE has ever spent our money at the pace of this fool.

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November 16th, 2011
1:09 pm

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Lil' Barry Bailout (Revised Downward)

November 16th, 2011
1:10 pm

Sorry sailfish, but it ain’t Democrat business as usual any more. The adults have arrived and gave your boy king a good whupping.

sailfish

November 16th, 2011
1:13 pm

You guys are in georgia fantasy land, enjoy the rides and nasty food, then go home and let reality slap you in the face. I’m diving deep, aloha

UGA 1999

November 16th, 2011
1:16 pm

Sailfish….hmmmm “nasty food”…did you know that Atlanta is ranked the #2 food capital in the country, just behind NYC? Again you show your ignorance. It is no wonder you vote for the left. Stay there we dont need you.

Zoso

November 16th, 2011
1:17 pm

Sailfish

Let us know when you get out of the dumpster.

Hillbilly D

November 16th, 2011
1:20 pm

Del @ 1:01

They do appear to be backing away from them like they were a nuclear hand grenade.

@@

November 16th, 2011
1:27 pm

Funny!

It’s too bad Barack Obama is compelled to run for a second term because, if history is any indication — and indicating is one of the things history does best, along with giving historians something to study — his second term will be even worse than his first.

Maybe Obama will join the ranks of Ford and the first President Bush. Maybe he’ll be re-elected and reverse the curse, finding a way to entice Congress to help him put into action more of his agenda.

After all, Fitzgerald also wrote, “Genius is the ability to put into effect what is on your mind.”

Of course, Fitzgerald drank. Four more years of political disappointment and we all may.

http://www.devilslakejournal.com/opinions/columnists/x34248559/Kevin-Frisch-Obama-Coming-to-terms-with-a-second-term#comments

@@

November 16th, 2011
1:29 pm

Hillbilly:

Democrats have always backed away from people who don’t serve THEM.

(ISH)

sailfish

November 16th, 2011
1:30 pm

zoso

If you could catch me, which you can’t, eat me-

UGA 1999

November 16th, 2011
1:33 pm

Sailfish….spoken like a true gentleman! haha nice.

Zoso

November 16th, 2011
1:39 pm

sailfish

oh so clever. what a tool

Dumpy

November 16th, 2011
1:41 pm

Can I still use the cop car?

philosopher

November 16th, 2011
1:49 pm

Wow- aren’t we proud little wallet watchers?! Let’s pat ourselves on the back and see if we can stomp on some MORE people less well-off than ourselves. And God forbid we should address any MEANINGFUL issues here.

UGA 1999

November 16th, 2011
1:51 pm

Philosopher…..Yeah, like maybe we should concentrate on raping the rich and having them pay for all of the poor little lower class that just cant seem to find their way……RIGHT!

saywhat?

November 16th, 2011
1:59 pm

OWS protests against the people and institutions who wrecked the economy while profiting from the destruction. The teatards protested when a black guy won the presidency.

Zoso

November 16th, 2011
2:00 pm

The OWS crowd is one of the best campaign advertisements that the GOP could dream of. The lunatics are in the park. The lunatics are in the park.

UGA 1999

November 16th, 2011
2:01 pm

Saywhat…..OMG you guys are ignorant! If that were true about OWS they would be protesting in front of the whitehouse. Actually the OWS thugs are not smart enough to even know what or why they are protesting.

The Tea Party began (legally protested) when Obama over reached is limits as president.

Try to keep up, I know you are having a hard time.

saywhat?

November 16th, 2011
2:06 pm

“Saywhat…..OMG you guys are ignorant” says the UGA grad- pretty much a prerequisite for ignorance.

UGA 1999

November 16th, 2011
2:07 pm

saywhat? Thanks for proving my point!

Don't Tread

November 16th, 2011
2:11 pm

“I would rather confront a hippy OWS supporter than an [sic] racist, gun carrying, hate monkering [sic], racist tea partyer.”

With language skills like that, maybe you should go join OWS (speaking of being around racists and gun toting haters). I don’t recall any Tea Partiers raping women in tents, shooting people, destroying/vandalizing private property, defecating on police cars, or demanding that people feed them for free and then assauting them when they refused to do so.

OWS is just a bunch of petulant children throwing a temper tantrum because other people have more “bling” than they do. (Most likely because other people were busy going to school and learning a marketable skill set instead of sitting on their butts mooching off others, doing drugs, and playing Xbox, but that’s beside the point, right?)

99%, my eye. Maybe 9.9%, if you include some creative accounting.

That Black guy

November 16th, 2011
2:11 pm

saywhat?
November 16th, 2011
1:59 pm

“teatards protested when a black guy won the presidency.”

I would have stopped after reading that, but it was at the end so I read it all.

Daymn! I hate to waste my time reading stupid comments.