Harry Reid: Hey, bureaucrats are the ones hurting (video)
Sharron Angle giveth, Sharron Angle taketh away. On the one hand, the Nevada Republican’s awful campaign last year against incumbent Harry Reid helped Democrats avoid an embarrassing electoral defeat and maintain their majority in the Senate. On the other, keeping Reid in office means Republicans still have someone to practically write the campaign ads for them.
Here’s Reid on the Senate floor Wednesday, explaining that the private sector is in fine shape — it’s the public sector that’s hurting during the Obama Recovery:
Via Jeff Emanuel at RedState, who notes that the federal government’s unemployment statistics prove the exact opposite — the unemployment rate for government workers last month was in fact the lowest for any sector. Just as it was a year ago.
Folks, there is nothing wrong with the economy that Democratic leaders think government — more spending, more regulation and now more hiring — can’t fix. Just ask them.
– By Kyle Wingfield
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getalife
October 20th, 2011
3:57 pm
It is called the Arab and American awakening.
We are changing the world .
Join us.
Lil' Barry Bailout (Unexpectedly Revised Downward)
October 20th, 2011
4:06 pm
Someone should ask Harry Reid if Guam is in danger of tipping over.
getalife
October 20th, 2011
4:09 pm
Do you hear that?
It is the American Awakening.
They are celebrating the Arab Awakening.
That is the sound of change.
Our President did bring change as promised.
Hope is coming too.
Life is good.
carlosgvv
October 20th, 2011
4:10 pm
Kyle, it is the Big Business private sector that is doing well. It is the American workers who aren’t doing so well. You and I both know that is what Reid meant. Nice try, though.
Lil' Barry Bailout (Unexpectedly Revised Downward)
October 20th, 2011
4:12 pm
carlosgvv, how did you get THAT from Reid’s statement?
Nice try, though.
getalife
October 20th, 2011
4:14 pm
reid is countering your attack on jobs.
He is fighting to save those jobs.
Tell your failed party to stop the attacks on American jobs.
Recover the 15 million jobs your failed party lost before any cuts.
No jobs no cuts.
Got it?
TruthBe
October 20th, 2011
4:14 pm
getalife, You are a idiot. Obama has lied to us all and his communist agenda is destroying America. You must be black. Because Blacks are the only ones supporting this disgrace of a president anymore in large numbers because of their “First time Presidental Black Pride”. Get over it. America is too important for all of us Americans Black and White to keep putting up with this corrupt president.
carlosgvv
October 20th, 2011
4:16 pm
Barry
Most of us, including you, know that the “private sector” means Corporations and small Business’, not Federal Govt. workers. Nice try, though.
getalife
October 20th, 2011
4:17 pm
tb,
Why so angry?
It is a great day to celebrate the Awakening in the world
Farsider
October 20th, 2011
4:19 pm
I’ve got my own question. How much more do we have to give to the 1% at the top before these “job creators” start creating jobs? That seems to be the broken record the right is stuck on. Current tax rates are not at confiscatory levels compared to other eras. Yet all the gop candidates maintain that we have to raise taxes on everybody EXCEPT the richest Americans, while once again giving that group a hefty tax cut. Nobody on the right can explain how this tactic has not worked. Did not work the last time it was tried and won’t work the next time its tried. Even Reagan was forced to follow up his mammoth tax cut with a huge tax increase. There is no proven track record these tax cuts create jobs, and yet that’s all the right has.
Lil' Barry Bailout (Unexpectedly Revised Downward)
October 20th, 2011
4:21 pm
It’s a whole lot easier to explain how tax CUTS create jobs than it is to explain how tax INCREASES create jobs. Real jobs, that is, not government jobs.
getalife
October 20th, 2011
4:23 pm
mcloser is a disgrace and can’t even praise our President for his victory.
Unpatriotic fool like the rest of you cons.
Get Real
October 20th, 2011
4:26 pm
I think old Harry has had an aneurysm; he is almost as big a buffoon as Biden…
Lil' Barry Bailout (Unexpectedly Revised Downward)
October 20th, 2011
4:26 pm
carlosgvv: Most of us, including you, know that the “private sector” means Corporations and small Business’, not Federal Govt. workers.
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Uh, that’s sort of the point, dude. Reid thinks corporations and small businesses are doing just fine and not laying anyone off. Tell that to the bank employees getting laid off, the construction workers with no work, the software developers whose jobs are getting offshored. We have 400,000 new applications for unemployment every week. Most of them are private sector folks who used to work for corporations and small businesses (and medium-sized businesses, etc.)
Reid’s an idiot.
Nice try, though.
Jim Crowe
October 20th, 2011
4:27 pm
Lets see Obama deposes a tyrant with very little American money and 0 American Casualties.
Bush gets rid of Saddam and over 4,000 lose their lives and some 30,000 wounded.
Hmmmmmm
Jim Crowe
October 20th, 2011
4:28 pm
Just think if we hadn’t wasted all that money in Iraq.
getalife
October 20th, 2011
4:28 pm
Look in the mirror to see the idiots idiots.
Is that all you got?
Childish insults?
carlosgvv
October 20th, 2011
4:41 pm
Barry
I believe the recession is over for Wall Street but is still in full force for Main Street. Do you agree?
Hillbilly D
October 20th, 2011
4:49 pm
Things aren’t fine up here in the Hills but Harry, like probably 99% of those in Congress, has never been here.
MountainMan
October 20th, 2011
4:50 pm
JC,
Iraq looked pretty good after 30 days, let’s see how Lybia plays out.
MarkV
October 20th, 2011
4:51 pm
Those criticizing Obama’s economic performance, from the Republican presidential contenders to those commenting here, have two fundamental problems:
One, the facts that show the contracting economy and huge job losses at the end of Bush’s administration. Also that the initial data, on which the stimulus was based, understated the depth of the problem. The critics may call it excuses until they are red in face, but they cannot change those important facts.
Two, the critics cannot prove by any factual evidence that the economy would be in a better shape if a Republican were in the White House. They can repeat opinions and theories as much as they want, but all they have are words, which are cheap.
Chuck Doberman
October 20th, 2011
4:52 pm
Yes, of course, Reid (and anyone to the left of Ayn Rand) is out of touch with mainstream America. Only hardcore conservatives truly feel the pain of working class people, and as soon as we elect someone (anyone… as long as they’re god-fearin’ po-folk hatin’ “keep the gov’t out of my life… but not yours” type of folk) the “job creators” (roflmao) will start to creatin’, the riches will “trickle down”, the middle class will be rejuvenated and life will be grand! You see, their economic practices in the past have ABSOLUTELY, POSITIVELY NOTHING TO DO WITH OUR ANEMIC ECONOMY, JUST ASK THEM, and as soon as we get back to those same exact policies and practices (with even more emphasis on shifting ALL of the nation’s wealth to the already-wealthy) all will be roses and puppy dogs. There is no alternative policy or mindset in the GOP… this is what they’ve done in the past and this is exactly what they’re telling us they’ll do in the future given the opportunity. Then they’ll blame the carnage on someone else and emphatically deny any involvement, which will be good enough for their “base” to believe.
Lil' Barry Bailout (Unexpectedly Revised Downward)
October 20th, 2011
4:57 pm
carlosgvv: I believe the recession is over for Wall Street but is still in full force for Main Street.
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Wall Street is a mixed bag. Profits at some of the large banks are down this past quarter and there are some big layoffs going on.
Reid never said anything about Wall Street though. He said the private sector. The private sector is much bigger than Wall Street. And it most definitely is not doing fine.
Reid’s an idiot.
Lil' Barry Bailout (Unexpectedly Revised Downward)
October 20th, 2011
5:03 pm
Meanwhile, back at the poor, downtrodden, put-upon federal government:
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Beltway Earnings Make U.S. Capital Richer Than Silicon Valley
Federal employees whose compensation averages more than $126,000 and the nation’s greatest concentration of lawyers helped Washington edge out San Jose as the wealthiest U.S. metropolitan area, government data show.
Van Jonez
October 20th, 2011
5:05 pm
Telling a stupid lie and being a stupid lair: Congratulation Harry, you win again, categorically.
Lil' Barry Bailout (Unexpectedly Revised Downward)
October 20th, 2011
5:06 pm
Obozo has one fundamental problem. Two years into the economic recovery he inherited, unemployment is still at 9%.
retired early
October 20th, 2011
5:07 pm
Consider for a moment, the real reason for the mess we find ourselves in as a country.
Bank deregulation changed the mortgage banking industry in a dramatic negative way.
For the first time they were allowed to “package” their loans and sell them as “investments blocks”.
They can get a higher yield from these “sales” than they can if they keep the loans and service them themselves. They began making loans to anyone, regardless of their creditworthiness…then “package” and sell them.
Now banks have a choice…do they make mortgage loans which earn 31/2 to 4/12%, or do they invest their money in higher yield markets.
The answer….we are now required to pay 20% down to qualify for a loan or to refinance. They have no incentive to make housing loans. Fewer loans means fewer new nome construction…and the glut of existing homes just “sits” there dragging down the value of everyone’s home.
How many of these long time unemployed workers come from the housing industry? Let’s see…that’s carpenters, plumbers, electricians, roofers, painters, brick masons, appliance dealers, septic tank companies, landscapers, etc.
Canada, btw, did not have a recession…one reason…they regulate their banks. Mortgage lenders just make mortgage loans…know what else…these banks are required to “keep the loans they make” and service them throughout the life of the loan.
Now, what are we continuing to hear from the GOP contenders….less regulations will promote more jobs.
Less regulation CAUSED this mess in the first place…God help us if the GOP gains control of this country once again.
carlosgvv
October 20th, 2011
5:07 pm
Barry
Actually, Wall Street is part of the private sector. It certainly is not part of the Govt. sector. However, you’re right about Reid. Unfortunately, he is not alone in Congress in being an idiot.
I Report (-: You Whine )-: Thee Magnificent!!! mmm, mmmm, mmmmm! Just sayin...
October 20th, 2011
5:09 pm
Hairy Reed will soon be the Senate Minority Leader and he can pat himself on the back for that.
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So today obozo gave al qaida it’s fourth country, he busily works on few more and the libs are jumping with glee over all this marauding on nations that never attacked us.
What will be the parting gift from the dummycrats to our islamic enemies, the US nuclear arsenal?
Lil' Barry Bailout (Unexpectedly Revised Downward)
October 20th, 2011
5:12 pm
retired early…Canada also has full recourse loans, which means borrowers can’t just walk away if they don’t feel like paying their mortgage any longer. Not so in the US, where so many parasites did just that.
Lil' Barry Bailout (Unexpectedly Revised Downward)
October 20th, 2011
5:13 pm
carlosgvv, everything is private sector except the government. You’re the only one confused about that!
Lil' Barry Bailout (Unexpectedly Revised Downward)
October 20th, 2011
5:19 pm
Oh, and Canada has another advantage in terms of bank stability: No Community Reinvestment Act.
Jefferson
October 20th, 2011
5:19 pm
Somebody better hope the AJC is doing well…
Get on with it
October 20th, 2011
5:20 pm
Get over the racism. Obama is not black nor is he white. Hes mixed and does not care about any of us. Black, white, he does not care, nore do Reid or Pelosi. They do however care about illegals though. They need that vote. Those two are the only ones not running to the hills like the other democrates.
Hey, I used to be a democrate, was proud of it. But now? No, these people in congress are not democrats like Kennedy or the others coming though history. There was no anger or hate in Kennedy, he truely loved America. These people today, well its like they are part of a liberal hate crime. They are begging for people to protest and kill and mame. I mean come on. Bidden says there will be murders and rapes and then what happens. A protester in Ohio claims she was raped. Its all just a ploy. To divide and conquere. I beg you democrates to look at the history of our party, then look at these people who are in the party now. If you see them as the same the continue to vote for them. If your like me and am very very afraid of what they are doing, well then vote for the GOP. Remember, you can tell anyone you voted for Obama but only you will ever know the truth. Who will know that when it counted you looked down at your kids and grandkids and proclaimed, NOT ON MY WATCH and then pushed the button beside the GOP.
I wont lie, I am done with the crazy democratic takeover of our country. Poor Virginia and the coal industry, well they will be very unemployed soon by Obamas regulations, electric bills of every american will sky rocket. You think its bad now, just wait till the regulations of the electric/coal mandate comes in. You can look at electric bills going up at least by 4 times what you pay now. People really will be in dark. Remember, open you eyes, you really do get what you ask for and sometimes the Change given is not what you actually thought you were getting. I know one thing, Obama can keep his change. I will keep my America.
Rafe Hollister
October 20th, 2011
5:21 pm
It is all about the unions. Harry owes his reelection to the unions. They bused in people in sufficient quantity to overcome any vote that Angle was going to get. She ran a poor campaign, but Reid had the Unions to compensate for his lack of popularity with mainstream voters in Nevada. He is controlled by the Unions as a result.
The unions have shrunk to next to nothing in the private sector and flourished in the public sector, hence, Reid’s comments. He and Oblamer have to suck up to the unions, since they are so unpopular with mainstream America. When Harry says the Public Sector needs help, he really means we need more union jobs.
Hillbilly D
October 20th, 2011
5:21 pm
We could actually learn a lot by looking at the Canadian banking industry and it’s regulations.
Lil' Barry Bailout (Unexpectedly Revised Downward)
October 20th, 2011
5:26 pm
“Canada’s banks are generally ranked as the safest and soundest in the world, and their non-politicized banking system could provide a model for banking reform in the United States. Moving towards the Canadian banking system could go a long way towards stabilizing our mortgage, credit, and housing markets and make us less vulnerable to financial shocks in the future.”
http://www.american.com/archive/2010/february/due-north-canadas-marvelous-mortgage-and-banking-system
Jefferson
October 20th, 2011
5:28 pm
When labor is treated like a “human resource” and is in high supply (USA), a labor union is the only chance a worker has to be treated fairly and compensated justly.
Lil' Barry Bailout (Unexpectedly Revised Downward)
October 20th, 2011
5:29 pm
Taking politics out of the banking system? That won’t be of much interest to the Democrat party.
retired early
October 20th, 2011
5:29 pm
Lil Barry
Borrowers in America are responsible for the “balance due” after the sale at foreclosure if it does not payoff the loan balance.
So, you don’t see a problem with bank deregulation and therefore don’t see how Canada’s economy faired better than ours inspite of the fact that they also have FREE HEALTH CARE. Gee, it did not bankrupt them…how’s that happen.
Lil' Barry Bailout (Unexpectedly Revised Downward)
October 20th, 2011
5:29 pm
By “compensated justly” you mean “above-market wages”, right?
Lil' Barry Bailout (Unexpectedly Revised Downward)
October 20th, 2011
5:30 pm
FREE HEALTH CARE. Gee, it did not bankrupt them…how’s that happen.
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Rationing.
Any other easy questions?
MarkV
October 20th, 2011
5:37 pm
Get on with it @5:20 pm
I sure hope you are a democrat, even if you are no longer a Democrat. But that is a minor point. You want to keep your America, where no regulations of the coal mining industry will make miners safe in the mines, prevent black lung disease, prevent destruction of the environment. Thanks, but no thanks. That is not America I want.
retired early
October 20th, 2011
5:47 pm
Lil Barry
“Rationing….That’s the standard GOP party line to scare people that has no basis in facts. It’s plays well along side the other GOP justification for “cutting taxes for the rich”…it creates jobs…right.
MarkV
October 20th, 2011
5:52 pm
Kyle,
you have equated people in “public sector jobs,” which Reid was talking about, with “bureaucrats.” Can you justify that?
Lil' Barry Bailout (Unexpectedly Revised Downward)
October 20th, 2011
5:56 pm
Of course Canada rations. If they didn’t ration, how would they control costs? You think everyone can get as much health care as they want any time they want?
Can government repeal gravity, too?
You don’t know very much so you’d be better off remaining quiet than to take me on.
Tommy Maddox
October 20th, 2011
6:00 pm
Every time I hear Reid speak, it sounds like someone fighting a losing battle with irregularity.
jm
October 20th, 2011
6:01 pm
Kyle. Did you note that DC passed Silicon Valley as wealthiest city in the country? (via Bloomberg)
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-10-19/beltway-earnings-make-u-s-capital-richer-than-silicon-valley.html
Rafe Hollister
October 20th, 2011
6:05 pm
Jefferson
80+% of American private sector workers are not unionized. According to you, they are all treated unfairly and not properly compensated. Is that what you truly believe? If you are right, workers would be begging to join a union.
retired early
October 20th, 2011
6:07 pm
Lil Barry
What a totally arrogant piece of work, The GOP is full of people like you. I will do you a favor and not “take you on” ever again…just give me the same courtesy.
Lil' Barry Bailout (Unexpectedly Revised Downward)
October 20th, 2011
6:13 pm
Yes, the GOP is full of people who know more than you.
Lynnie Gal
October 20th, 2011
6:17 pm
I believe Reid misspoke when he said, “public sector jobs are doing just fine.” I think what he meant was the “public sector is fine.” Corporations are sitting on three trillion dollars and are not hiring Americans for jobs. They are benefiting from tax breaks, and are not creating jobs for Americans. The Bush tax cuts that were extended were supposed to create jobs, remember? Where are the jobs?
Tommy Maddox
October 20th, 2011
6:18 pm
The jobs are waiting for Obamacare to be gutted.
Tommy Maddox
October 20th, 2011
6:19 pm
Oh, ask Harry where the jobs are.
Lil' Barry Bailout (Unexpectedly Revised Downward)
October 20th, 2011
6:22 pm
The Bush tax cuts DID create jobs, when they were initially made. Obozo didn’t cut income tax rates, he kept them the same. Keeping tax rates the same doesn’t create jobs. And Obozo’s payroll tax cut didn’t work either.
Obozo: Fail.
Lil' Barry Bailout (Unexpectedly Revised Downward)
October 20th, 2011
6:26 pm
Obozo blew $800 billion on his “stimulus”. Where are the jobs?
Mark T
October 20th, 2011
6:26 pm
getalife
October 20th, 2011
3:57 pm
It is called the Arab and American awakening.
We are changing the world .
Join us.
Now thats funny!
Real Athens
October 20th, 2011
6:26 pm
When I was in Vancouver and came down with Strep they didn’t ration my health care and I’m not even a citizen. I made a same day appontment at a clinic down the street from the hotel. Carried my own throat culture across the street to the lab that tested it while I waited. Went back across the street with the results, got a prescription, walked two blocks down the street and picked up my antibiotic regimen.
It took about 90 minutes and cost $45 — in 2008.
Lil' Barry Bailout (Unexpectedly Revised Downward)
October 20th, 2011
6:28 pm
My uncle lives in Saskatchewan and waited 5 months for an MRI.
Rationing.
Hillbilly D
October 20th, 2011
6:31 pm
In the U S, the insurance company rations the healthcare.
@@
October 20th, 2011
6:31 pm
The private sector is doing just fine!!??!!
I guess we can scrap the jobs bill then.
Doofus!
Tiberius - Your lightning rod of hate!
October 20th, 2011
6:34 pm
“Harry Reid misspoke”.
He makes a habit of doing that. What a waste of oxygen.
Lil' Barry Bailout (Unexpectedly Revised Downward)
October 20th, 2011
6:36 pm
In the US, you’re not prevented from getting health care when the insurance company doesn’t cover something.
Want some health care? Go get it.
Lil' Barry Bailout (Unexpectedly Revised Downward)
October 20th, 2011
6:37 pm
@@, it’s not a jobs bill, it’s a government workers union payoff bill.
spaceman109
October 20th, 2011
6:38 pm
im my opinion, bidnesspeople do not create jobs primarily because they got a tax cut or because of fewer regulations. these people create jobs primarily because there is more demand for their product or service. one wonders where this demand is supposed to materialize since not only are there so many unemployed, but the overwhelming majority of those who are employed have seen their pay frozen while costs (expecially health care premiums) continue to race upward.
someone on this blog should please explain how they would propose creating more consumer demand given the existing conditions i just described.
Road Scholar
October 20th, 2011
6:38 pm
LBB:”It’s a whole lot easier to explain how tax CUTS create jobs than it is to explain how tax INCREASES create jobs. ”
OK Basic economy…taxes can fund infrastruture needs,… the government HIRES contractors and engineers to design them…, the Contractors BUY materials in the private sector to build said infrastructure…the private sector Hires workers to make the materials…all must eat, transport themselves and goods…more private sector jobs are maintained and created to service the people designing, building, and maintaining the infrastructure…and how do I know this…it has worked before over and over bringing us out of recession after recession etc.
Road Scholar
October 20th, 2011
6:40 pm
Oh and those wages paid turn over about 7 times in the duration of construction, thus creating more economic activity. Good Night Barry!
Lil' Barry Bailout (Unexpectedly Revised Downward)
October 20th, 2011
6:41 pm
I said “real jobs”, not “government jobs”. There is a difference.
Lil' Barry Bailout (Unexpectedly Revised Downward)
October 20th, 2011
6:42 pm
And your “basic economics” says that the free market allocates resources more efficiently than bureaucrats.
Example: USSR.
Streetracer
October 20th, 2011
7:04 pm
Road Scholar @ 6:38
Since infrastructure is one of the two basic functions of local government, where have my local tax dollars been going? Since this is a basic function, why do we need extra money to fund it?
Gm
October 20th, 2011
7:05 pm
Yea its really goverment fault, who sent our jobs overseas”" Hey kyle tell me what job bills has the Rep party passed? These idiots voted against Obama job bill that could have put thousands to work.
This party would rather destroy America then to work with the President, Bush let these people on wall street run lose while he collect from the oil people, but you blame government workers””
the red herring
October 20th, 2011
7:16 pm
both parties sent our manufacturing jobs across the borders and over seas. franken-dodd created the monster that killed our building industry— you can catch any number of barney frank disputing his own words —what a joke. shame that all the people that contributed to the downfall of our jobs/manufacturing/etc can’t just say “i made a mistake” rather than continue to lie about it—-simply search the internet for videos of barney frank making one statement and then denying it on the next video… clinton began the shipping of our jobs out of the country–bush continued it —obama has worsened it. time for a change and hope alright—but it comes from tea party people who want to live within our means just like most of us have to do in our own households.
RustyHinges
October 20th, 2011
7:36 pm
And speaking of people hurting, let’s see what’s going on with Atlanta’s Occupados…
This is straight out of a comedy script. Bunch of dumba$$, punk dopeheads.
“Occupy Atlanta’s march to Buckhead fizzled Thursday after some participants apparently lost their way on MARTA”
First, part of the contingent failed to show; they were coming on MARTA but presumably lost their way, Occupy Atlanta participants told Channel 2 Action News’ Richard Elliot.
Then, about a dozen protesters put tape across their mouths and tried to enter the hotel, intending to walk through the attached Lenox Square shopping mall to Phipps. But security guards stopped them and told them the demonstrators would not be allowed in the hotel, as it was private property.
One organizer told Elliot that the protesters had not realized the mall was private property.
http://www.ajc.com/news/atlanta/occupy-atlanta-event-fizzles-1206373.html
RustyHinges
October 20th, 2011
7:41 pm
And to further show its lefty bias, the article remained all of 90 minutes on the AJC home page.
Fast and Furious Spending
October 20th, 2011
8:13 pm
The Arab American awakening? and no black lung disease in coal mines? no dirty water, air and no global warming? a “fine” private sector? but a crumbling public sector?
The agenda of the left is to laugh at.
I’m not sure how this happened, but the apparent truth of the matter is that no program of the left is judged ill if the intentions are good, no matter how many are harmed. No program of the right is judged good, no matter how many peoplee are helped.
And somehow Harry Reid gets away with making such a stupid comment that can only be either 1) grossly misinformed, so much that he ought to resign, or 2) so outrageously prevaricating that he should be promoted to head of the DNC and Chief of Staff at the White House, combined.
I Report (-: You Whine )-: Thee Magnificent!!! mmm, mmmm, mmmmm! Just sayin...
October 20th, 2011
8:37 pm
If you think about it, obozo is nothing but a Moammar Khadaffy wanna-be.
Lil' Barry Bailout (Revised Downward)
October 20th, 2011
9:55 pm
“With the approval of the Obama administration, an electric car company that received a $529 million federal government loan guarantee is assembling its first line of cars in Finland, saying it could not find a facility in the United States capable of doing the work.”
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Wow. Just amazing.
Finland: doing the highly paid jobs Obozo won’t allow Americans to do.
JDW
October 20th, 2011
10:16 pm
@Barry…”In the US, you’re not prevented from getting health care when the insurance company doesn’t cover something.
Want some health care? Go get it.”
You dufus, same exact thing applies in Canada, UK or anywhere else that has single payer…you don’t like what you get with the standard plan you are free to pay what you want for other care…only difference bettween them and us is they pay around 1/2 what we do for that standard plan so they have more to spend…
2008 Healthcare Spending Per Capita
US…$7,538
Canada…$4,079
UK…$3,129
Norway…$5,003…they spend the 2cd most
By the way all those places get longer life expectancy, lower infant mortality and generally better results from thier spend.
http://www.kff.org/insurance/snapshot/OECD042111.cfm
Tiberius - Your lightning rod of hate!
October 20th, 2011
10:52 pm
JDW, take 30% off the top of our healthcare costs because of defensive medicine practiced by physicians in order to avoid malpractice suits. Then take 20% off the difference between our life expectancy and other countries due to the difference in our freedom to do really, really stupid things to ourselves that other countries regulate in the name of safety and security.
Once you do that and look at things realistically, our healthcare system stacks up better than everybody else’s once you compare apples to apples.
JKL2
October 20th, 2011
10:53 pm
jefferson- When labor is treated like a “human resource” and is in high supply (USA), a labor union is the only chance a worker has to be treated fairly and compensated justly.
Let’s just raise the minimum wage up to a reasonable $20/hr and watch jobs come falling out of the sky…
JKL2
October 20th, 2011
11:17 pm
JDW- By the way all those places get longer life expectancy, lower infant mortality and generally better results from thier spend
Is that why they come running south acrross the border to get treatment? Our doctor’s are miracle workers. Problem is they have to deal with an inferior product and patients too stupid to follow orders or to lazy to do anything on their behalf to save their own life.
To increase life expectancy you might want to address our being the fattest, laziest country on the planet.
Acer706
October 20th, 2011
11:26 pm
A Health Policy Is Cheaper Than That iPhone Plan… And This IS Your Life People!
Jobs belong to the companies… not Govt! They can do whatever they want with them~!
paul
October 21st, 2011
1:26 am
You must admit democrats…. Old Harry become unhinged.
paul
October 21st, 2011
1:32 am
I mean Old Harry has become unhinged!
Joel Edge
October 21st, 2011
3:55 am
Harry Reid and Joe Biden are, without a doubt, two of the best reasons for voting Republican.
JDW
October 21st, 2011
7:38 am
@Tiberius…”take 30% off the top of our healthcare costs because of defensive medicine practiced by physicians in order to avoid malpractice suits.”
You are in a Repugican induced dream world…the cost of defensive medicine is an issue but a small one. The latest estimate from Health Affairs puts it at $46.5 billion which added to malpractice premiums runs the ENTIRE liability cost to $55.6 Billion. At 307 million people that’s about $181 per year or about 2.5% of the $7538 total per capita cost.
As for that 20% because our “our freedom to do really, really stupid things to ourselves that other countries regulate” that’s just absurd.
JDW
October 21st, 2011
7:44 am
@JKL2…”Is that why they come running south acrross the border to get treatment?”
Here is a nice post from the Denver Post that debunks that and other common myths…
http://www.denverpost.com/recommended/ci_12523427
BTW if numbers were availible we would probably find more Americans going to low cost health care destinations than the reverse to be true.
JDW
October 21st, 2011
7:48 am
@Tiberius…your should read the Canadian article in the Denver Post too…it points out that we have the…
“most bureaucratic health care system in the world. More than 31 percent of every dollar spent on health care in the U.S. goes to paperwork, overhead, CEO salaries, profits, etc. The provincial single-payer system in Canada operates with just a 1 percent overhead.”
That means that we spend $2,336 per year per person to run the health insurance companies.
Lil' Barry Bailout (Unexpectedly Revised Downward)
October 21st, 2011
7:53 am
JDW, if you don’t want to buy health insurance, don’t.
But kindly keep your (and more importantly, Obozo’s) fascist power grab off my healthcare.
JDW
October 21st, 2011
8:42 am
@Barry…”But kindly keep your (and more importantly, Obozo’s) fascist power grab off my healthcare.”
That the best you can do? Come lets have some data to show me how good our health care system is or how much value it delivers when compared to it’s peers. Good luck with that! You will be searching a long time.
Lil' Barry Bailout (Unexpectedly Revised Downward)
October 21st, 2011
9:00 am
My healthcare system is fine.
Keep your fascism off my healthcare.
JDW
October 21st, 2011
9:20 am
@Barry…”My healthcare system is fine. Keep your fascism off my healthcare.”
See Barry this is why people like you are the problem…not only do you have no solutions you can’t even see the problems.