Occupiers: If you want to impress us, leave the park

As I write this, there are about one and a half hours left before the deadline Atlanta Mayor Kasim Reed set himself for actually enforcing the law against camping in city parks — er, I mean for Occupy Atlanta folks to comply with said law. I wrote several days ago that Reed should enforce the law, and I still believe he would be wrong to let the Occupiers continue to take advantage of his lenience.

But today’s post is directed toward the Occupiers themselves.

I understand that some of you don’t appreciate comparisons to the tea party — and that the feeling is reciprocated. But the fact is that the tea party became an influential political movement not because of its ability to stage large rallies on a recurring basis, but because of its ability to work within the political process.

The Occupy rallies are small by comparison, and I would be interested to see whether your numbers would grow or shrink if you were to pack up and returned, say, two weeks from now. So I’m skeptical that you Occupiers command the same sort of support the tea party movement did even at an early age. More importantly, however, this is not a country (or city) governed from the barricades.

If you want the 98.99 percent to take you and your cause seriously — and I’ve argued that’s worth doing to some degree, in some cases, to the extent we know what your cause is — then prove you have respect for the rule of law. Even if you’d have us change some of them.

– By Kyle Wingfield

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saywhat?

October 17th, 2011
3:33 pm

“But the fact is that the tea party became an influential political movement not because of its ability to stage large rallies on a recurring basis, but because of its ability to work within the political process.”

Here I was thinking the tea party became influential because it was heavily backed by deep pockets and a news network….

Don't Tread

October 17th, 2011
3:39 pm

Even if they do leave the park, I’m still not impressed with most of them.

Now, if they moved to California, I’d be very impressed. And they might like the climate better over there.

Kyle Wingfield

October 17th, 2011
3:47 pm

Don’t Tread: Using “impress” in the headline was probably a bit too strong.

Steve

October 17th, 2011
3:58 pm

I think the column would be better titled if you replaced the word “us” with “me”.

Jefferson

October 17th, 2011
4:02 pm

Don’t worry Kyle, they are not impressed by you.

BULLSEYE

October 17th, 2011
4:06 pm

Intown

October 17th, 2011
4:07 pm

From the moderate liberal: can’t argue with anything in today’s Wingfield column.

Lil' Barry Bailout (Unexpectedly Revised Downward)

October 17th, 2011
4:24 pm

Their cause? Their cause is to make everyone as pathetic and miserable as they are.

philosopher

October 17th, 2011
4:27 pm

The purpose was never intended to impress people like you at all! The purpose is to enlighten folks who have some ability, no matter how small, to care about the plight of someone other than the folks who have everything they need or want…and then some. And to make folks aware of the disenfranchised Americans-millions of them- those with no jobs or hope off jobs; those who have no homes; those who have lost a lifetime of savings and retirement-and hope; those who have no way to pay back education loans because they can’t get a job with which to repay the loans; and on and on. Sure, you’d just love for folks to shut up and sit down and let you live in peace while everything for you is hunky-dory…but guess what-life is messy…and these folks NEED to be heard. The spoiled children who got their bailout and help in the past just don’t want the red-headed stepchildren to get anything, now do they- too bad!

Lil' Barry Bailout (Unexpectedly Revised Downward)

October 17th, 2011
4:30 pm

What changes to federal or state law do you red-headed stepchildren propose that doesn’t involve taking someone else’s property from them?

philosopher

October 17th, 2011
4:35 pm

My property (taxes) are being taken to pay the bail-outs to the banks, just for starters. Now let’s think about helping someone who really needs something-look at who is in these crowds- these aren’t just unhappy kids..these are parents and grandparents and folks who used to own homes and businesses- when crooked bankers caused financial collapse for them, who got helped? If we don’t do something to help these folks we are going to face serious civil unrest…that’s where we are headed if something doesn’t change.

Lil' Barry Bailout (Unexpectedly Revised Downward)

October 17th, 2011
4:45 pm

Cue the chirping crickets…what changes to federal or state law do you red-headed stepchildren propose that doesn’t involve taking someone else’s property from them?

Kyle Wingfield

October 17th, 2011
4:45 pm

Philosopher: Why don’t you take a look at what I wrote about this last week.

Junior Samples

October 17th, 2011
4:50 pm

The Tea Party became a movement only here in the US.

OWS has spread to Rome, Sydney, Madrid, London, Frankfurt, Hong Kong, Stockholm, etc… While you might be skeptical of their support, the rest of the world in paying attention. Don’t discard the message because of the messenger.

Lil' Barry Bailout (Unexpectedly Revised Downward)

October 17th, 2011
4:52 pm

The best thing we can do to help the poor is reverse the policies that Obozo put in place that is keeping a lid on economic growth–higher taxes, excessive regulation, unfunded mandates, etc.

Socialism's grrrrrrrreat

October 17th, 2011
4:53 pm

Lil big brainfart – how about outlawing all regressives, starting with you and wingfield?

Socialism's grrrrrrrreat

October 17th, 2011
4:56 pm

Brainfart – you mean the bush tax cuts, the Iraq war, Medicare part d, sarbox and the patriot, all of which predate The Great One? I repeat: you are an idiot of impressive – but dangerous – proportions

Lil' Barry Bailout (Unexpectedly Revised Downward)

October 17th, 2011
4:56 pm

Socialism’s hates people who aren’t like him–the employed, for example.

Socialism's grrrrrrrreat

October 17th, 2011
4:58 pm

Brainfart – theres about a 52% chance I’m a woman. That thought would not, however, occur to a misogynist misanthrope

Lil' Barry Bailout (Unexpectedly Revised Downward)

October 17th, 2011
4:59 pm

Socialism’s…take a deep breath. Your Idiot Messiah didn’t put into place any of those things. That was our President Bush. You remember–the President whose unemployment number was less in every month than it has been in any month of the Obozo regime.

Lil' Barry Bailout (Unexpectedly Revised Downward)

October 17th, 2011
5:00 pm

Wow, next you’ll be checking my posts for spelling errors.

You have nothing.

Lil' Barry Bailout (Unexpectedly Revised Downward)

October 17th, 2011
5:02 pm

Socialism’s grrrrrrrreat: theres about a 52% chance I’m a woman.
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Literally or figuratively speaking, I’d say there’s a 100% chance you’re a woman.

Socialism's grrrrrrrreat

October 17th, 2011
5:05 pm

Brainfart – Nothing except facts and objective reality. Must be nice living in your alternate universe where up is down, black is white and everything was just dandy until January 2009. In 2011, someone like you is an affront to the theory of Darwinism.

Lil' Barry Bailout (Unexpectedly Revised Downward)

October 17th, 2011
5:06 pm

You’d have thought a Nobel-prize-winning genius would have “changed” things since January 2009. For the better, I mean.

Idiot Messiah: Incompetent. Failure.

Socialism's grrrrrrrreat

October 17th, 2011
5:07 pm

Brainfart – THANK YOU FOR PROVING TO MEAND EVERYONE HERE THAT YOU ARE IN FACT A MISOGYNIST PIG.

Lil' Barry Bailout (Unexpectedly Revised Downward)

October 17th, 2011
5:10 pm

He has?

Huh. Aren’t you the “guy” who complained about others “living in an alternate universe”?

Lil' Barry Bailout (Unexpectedly Revised Downward)

October 17th, 2011
5:11 pm

I guess all those Idiot Messiah improvements are the reason for the OWS protests?

DannyX

October 17th, 2011
5:11 pm

So how did things turn out for the Tea Party?

Every single major poll shows the Tea Party to be very unpopular with the American public now.

The new Tea Party governors are very unpopular and one is about to get kicked out of office.

Socialism's grrrrrrrreat

October 17th, 2011
5:13 pm

Lil Barry bailout = missing link. Glad we solved that one after all these years.

I Report (-: You Whine )-: Thee Magnificent!!! mmm, mmmm, mmmmm! Just sayin...

October 17th, 2011
5:16 pm

They won’t even remember the protests in two weeks, don’t be so hard on them.

geez

Ayn Rant

October 17th, 2011
5:19 pm

The Occupiers are attracting attention from people around the world. Perhaps the noise and publicity will inspire the majority of Americans, who don’t bother to vote, to heave their fat butts off their stinky sofas and recliners, and go to the polls in November 2012!

Americans who have or want jobs need a bailout from the destruction wrought by the unregulated fianancial sector and their hirelings in Congess!

Lil' Barry Bailout (Unexpectedly Revised Downward)

October 17th, 2011
5:20 pm

DannyX: So how did things turn out for the Tea Party?
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Other than winning the election last November, you mean?

Socialism's grrrrrrrreat

October 17th, 2011
5:24 pm

Brainfart – come 2013, when The Great One has been reelected in a landslide and the dems regain control of both houses, possibly with a supermajority in the senate, that victory in 2010 will be nothing more than an unfortunate historical footnote. And I will be filled with unadulterated glee at the sight of your pathetic apoplexy

Chuck Doberman

October 17th, 2011
5:30 pm

There is no need or purpose in impressing those who walk around with pitifully (and intentionally) closed-minds. You conservatives seem to have no desire or intent to understand anything other than what you think/believe.

Obama is truly evil and wishes to destroy America

Conservative policy had ABSOLUTELY NOTHING TO DO with the recent financial meltdown – it was totally and completely the fault of Barack Obama and “the liberals”

Upon regaining the White House we will immediately return to the same policies and procedures which crashed our economy, but it’s OK because this time it’ll work!

Government should stay out of our lives… except in the cases of a woman’s body, a persons religious beliefs (or lack thereof) or any protests regarding the ever expanding already immense wage gap

You know all that you ever want to know already, and if there’s to be any learning done in the future it’ll be from the “fair and balanced” (roflmao) political pundits and entertainers on Fox News. Why would these people care one wit whether y’all are impressed or not?

Lil' Barry Bailout (Unexpectedly Revised Downward)

October 17th, 2011
5:34 pm

Still waiting for those liberal proposals to change federal or state law (or budgets) to address the protesters concerns.

What do you suggest?

Socialism's grrrrrrrreat

October 17th, 2011
5:37 pm

Nice post, chuck. Henceforth, please can we start adopting ‘regressive’ as the proper way to refer to conservatives since it more accurately captures that which they seek to achieve.

@@

October 17th, 2011
5:47 pm

The Tea Party opposed the bailouts. OWS protesters do too.

The difference? The Tea Party wants nothing to do with socialism. The OWS protesters are in need of it.

Socialism's grrrrrrrreat

October 17th, 2011
5:54 pm

Kyle – disappointed you censored my post. Both of the words you objected to are bona fide and used in public discourse routinely. I thought you are philosophically opposed to big brother type activity. i guess thats true only to the extent it suits your needs. Do you know what a hyppocrite is?

I Report (-: You Whine )-: Thee Magnificent!!! mmm, mmmm, mmmmm! Just sayin...

October 17th, 2011
6:00 pm

IOWA CITY, Iowa — Republican presidential hopeful Herman Cain has cast himself as the outsider, the pizza magnate with real-world experience who will bring fresh ideas to the nation’s capital. But the Atlanta businessman’s economic ideas, support and organization have close ties to two billionaire brothers who bankroll right-leaning causes through their group Americans for Prosperity. -Urinal

The only people in the world who will be at all concerned about this are dimwit obozo liberals and other assorted morons, but that doesn’t mean the AJC isn’t a filthy, nasty little organization for publishing it.

Anything to beat down a successful black man, just sayin….

Socialism's grrrrrrrreat

October 17th, 2011
6:04 pm

Whining ninny – kettle calling the pot black, perhaps? You do that to the current president daily

Hillbilly D

October 17th, 2011
6:21 pm

MarkV

October 17th, 2011
6:40 pm

Socialism’s grrrrrrrreat :

I am glad Kyle censored your post. And I would like to remind you of two things. One is that name-calling only distracts from the point you are trying to make. The second thing is that there are people, who are best dealt with by not paying attention to them.

It used to be that it seemed – even if it was not true – that each village had its own “village idiot.” Somebody people tolerated with forbearance, knowing that that person could not help himself because of his/her diminished mental ability. In this blog we have Lil’ Barry Bailout (Revised Downward).

I Report (-: You Whine )-: Thee Magnificent!!! mmm, mmmm, mmmmm! Just sayin...

October 17th, 2011
6:45 pm

Whining ninny – kettle calling the pot black, perhaps? You do that to the current president daily

obozo wasn’t even a successful community organizer, hahahahahaha, moron.

He’s the perfect liberal, that’s why y’all love him.

saywhat?

October 17th, 2011
6:56 pm

The Tea Party opposed the bailouts. OWS protesters do too.

The difference? The OWS protesters want nothing to do with Koch money and wealth transfer to the rich. The tea party protesters are in need of it.

jconservative

October 17th, 2011
6:59 pm

“What changes to federal or state law do you red-headed stepchildren propose that doesn’t involve taking someone else’s property from them?”

How about changing federal law to allow senior citizens to receive prescription drugs at a discount price. The price tag is not to great, about $7 trillion a decade. And we can take the money from taxpayers and give the proceeds in the form of cheap drugs to those who are on Social Security and Medicare/Medicaid and are paying no taxes.

Of course it is Socialism, but who cares.

Lil' Barry Bailout (Unexpectedly Revised Downward)

October 17th, 2011
7:00 pm

The OWSers are long on whining and complaining and short on solutions. They could impress us all by leaving the park AND making some constructive suggestions for policy changes that would improve whatever perceived problems they are protesting.

Oh, and their secret handshake (right arm extended, palm up) really needs to go.

Lil' Barry Bailout (Unexpectedly Revised Downward)

October 17th, 2011
7:01 pm

How about changing federal law to allow senior citizens to receive prescription drugs at a discount price.
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Problem already solved. It’s called Medicare Part D.

saywhat?

October 17th, 2011
7:05 pm

Socialism’s grrrreat: to add to MarkV’s statement, little boring is a long time denizen of kyle’s blog, and a major reason it is so sparsely populated. I realize you post the way you do because you want to fight fire with fire, but he posts the way he does because he has to, if you get my drift. Even his moniker, (which he adopted after employment numbers had been revised downward) doesn’t reflect reality, because of course they have since been revised upward. Unfortunately, the people who think for him haven’t appraised him of the current situation. I certainly can’t imagine Wingfield going back and revising the column he wrote decrying the single month of zero job growth (revised upward since then). The best thing to do is ignore the troll.

Gordon

October 17th, 2011
7:08 pm

I think “occupier” is a perfect name for this group. An occupier is one who takes up space. As far as I can see, that is about all they are capable of.

Lil' Barry Bailout (Unexpectedly Revised Downward)

October 17th, 2011
7:09 pm

Nonsense. Kyle’s post count has gone way up since I brought my business over here. Check the archives.