Speech spat shows Obama still has the anti-Midas touch

I got to the office later than usual after a morning of outside meetings, and was surprised to find hackles still raised on the right and especially on the left after yesterday’s kerfuffle over the timing of the address to a joint session of Congress that President Obama requested.

One can only wonder what people in the White House were thinking. Asking for the time slot they did — exactly coinciding with a long-scheduled GOP presidential debate at the Reagan library in California — was a lose-lose-lose proposition:

First loss: Had the White House gotten its way, it would only have opened the door for the Republicans to push back their debate by one hour and provide instant, multi-throated criticism of his plan — stealing his thunder and setting the tone for coverage of the plan in the next news cycle.

Second loss: If the White House was anticipating a fight over the speech’s timing, it would have behooved the folks there to have known the procedural and security problems Speaker John Boehner raised in his polite suggestion that the president wait until the next day. These problems, reasonable or not (though I suspect they do sound reasonable to all but the most die-hard Obama supporters, and perhaps even some of them), are far more objective than any rationale the White House gave for requesting the conflicting time slot. Now, the president is left looking either petty or, worse, clueless about how standard operating procedure works in the legislative body where he once served. White House officials can claim they ran the details past the speaker’s office beforehand, but Boehner’s quick and reasonable reply explaining why the timing wouldn’t work makes that claim sound like a defensive, spin-tastic move.

Third loss: In setting up a conflict that he wasn’t certain to win, the president set himself up for the line now echoing around the left-wing blogosphere — that, once again, he has caved to the GOP. That was a possibility he couldn’t afford to risk. But here we are, with Huffington Post commentator Cenk Uygur suggesting:

There is no secret, brilliant strategy. This White House is in a bubble. They think they’re winning when the roof is about to cave in.

Stumbling over such a mundane detail as the timing of a speech cannot inspire much confidence, even in those still disposed to support Obama and his policies, that he’s going to get it right with the big issue of jobs and the economy.

– By Kyle Wingfield

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118 comments Add your comment

Janey White

September 1st, 2011
12:04 pm

I’m sorry — he IS the current president. Republican debate is not essential – the President addressing the Congress is. This is the problem with the economy, right? Things that are non-essential taking up as much space as those that are … perhaps we should keep that in mind and behave like a civilized nation.

Tony

September 1st, 2011
12:09 pm

I wonder how you landed this gig. Silver spooned affirmative action.

Henry Graham

September 1st, 2011
12:15 pm

“t would only have opened the door for the Republicans to push back their debate by one hour and provide instant, multi-throated criticism of his plan”

Of course! Who cares about the jobless when the 2012 Presidency is at stake. Predictable drivel from those such as yourself who have kneejerk criticism of everything Obama does.

Kyle Wingfield

September 1st, 2011
12:15 pm

I have a friend who buys me a beer every time some inane “silver spoon” comment shows up on the blog…cheers, Tony!

Kyle Wingfield

September 1st, 2011
12:17 pm

And if you’re concerned about the jobless, Henry, then wouldn’t you want the president to give his big speech at a time without such distractions?

Aquagirl

September 1st, 2011
12:21 pm

Who cares about the jobless when the 2012 Presidency is at stake.

Henry, ignoring reality because you don’t like it is not a winning game plan. There are insane people everywhere in Washington. This is not exactly breaking news, it’s called “politics.” Striding in there and assuming they’ll act like folks at your community-organized meetings is also not a winning game plan.

Hillbilly D

September 1st, 2011
12:31 pm

Both parties, at the Federal level, have one thing on their minds and one thing only, how to win the 2012 election. Nothing else matters to them, especially us.

Lil' Barry Bailout (Revised Downward)

September 1st, 2011
12:33 pm

Janey, where is your Odiot Messiah’s jobs bill? That’s what’s important. Where is it?

Lil' Barry Bailout (Revised Downward)

September 1st, 2011
12:37 pm

Obozo can’t even schedule a meeting properly. Doesn’t the big-eared retard know that you check with the attendees before putting it on the calendar?

Idiot Messiah: Loser.

Tony

September 1st, 2011
12:44 pm

Alcoholics Anonymous is ready when you are.

UGA 1999

September 1st, 2011
12:51 pm

“What the white house was thing?” You mean you assume they actually have the capability of thinking?

zadoc

September 1st, 2011
12:55 pm

As far as I am concerned, the President, regardless of party, can have a speech when it best suits them, not when it’s good for the opposition party.

POLL: Should Obama deliver his speech to congress on the same night as the NFL opener, or on the same night as the GOP debate?
Vote: http://www.wepolls.com/p/2180227

Gm

September 1st, 2011
12:55 pm

This shows the terrorist of Rep in America, they have no respect for the President of the United ‘States, these retards on the right would have never disrespected bush this way, you can debate any time but when the President wants to talk to the American people that should be no1 priortiy.
Where is uncle Hermain Cain outrage? he is so busy sucking up to a bunch of bigots of the tea party who would never elect him or any other black as the President.
When will you see Hannity, Rush, Sara going to these tea pary communities that have lost their homes from Irene ? funny the President Obama has to fly to these hypocrites area and show support, oh and signed their femma checks ”””

UGA 1999

September 1st, 2011
1:02 pm

Gm….you guys sure disrepected Bush when he was in office. Now you are wanting us to bow to Barack? Ha. Tell us all, why do you call Herman Cain “uncle”? Are you related? By the way it is FEMA you fool!

Lil' Barry Bailout (Revised Downward)

September 1st, 2011
1:04 pm

Obama loses again.

Walker B. Fortythree

September 1st, 2011
1:07 pm

Gm….you guys sure disrepected Bush when he was in office. Now you are wanting us to bow to Barack? Ha. Tell us all, why do you call Herman Cain “uncle”? Are you related? By the way it is FEMA you fool

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How could we ever disrespect GWB when he made such wonderful statements as:

“If this were a dictatorship, it’d be a heck of a lot easier, just so long as I’m the dictator.” –Washington, D.C., Dec. 19, 2000

Walker B. Fortythree

September 1st, 2011
1:08 pm

L.B.B. the only loser is you. But keep on thinking that he will lose.

Michael

September 1st, 2011
1:12 pm

If this is so damn important, why wasn’t it important enough to tell us about itweeks ago when he was on a silly bus tour to nowhere, teasing us for days at each speaking point, then going on vacation for 10 days an managing to play golf nearly every day. Give me a break, no give us all a break. If he is the President, perhaps he should start behaving like one?

UGA 1999

September 1st, 2011
1:14 pm

Walker B….and your point? This after Barack said “My muslim faith”?

UGA 1999

September 1st, 2011
1:15 pm

You Dems really make this too easy!

Jefferson

September 1st, 2011
1:34 pm

I wish they would have had the speech right before the debate, It would have been fun to watch the GOPers at the debate slam the president (that’s all they can do, cause the don’t have a plan that will work) where they have to think real time instead of hearing the next day what their bosses tell them to say. Either way sooner or later they will have to call each other stupid or they will be out like the last guy to quit. There is plenty of slime to go around and they can spew it.

UGA 1999

September 1st, 2011
1:35 pm

Jefferson….”they dont have a plan”….you must be talking about the fact that Obama has not presented a formitable plan since being in option. Do you remember the Cap, Cut and Balance plan by the GOP? Where was Obama’s plan…..OH THAT IS RIGHT HE DIDNT HAVE ONE!!!

Scooter

September 1st, 2011
1:38 pm

Golly… it’s like The Obama didn’t have much practical experience before white liberals floated him to the Presidency to enact their collectivist bidding.

UGA 1999

September 1st, 2011
1:42 pm

Scooter…..race baiting eh? Nice tactic…..

Hey are you writing us from Gay Black Pride weekend in Atlanta?

stevie ray

September 1st, 2011
1:44 pm

Kyle, funny stuff. In a limited number of brilliant responses we already have the elephants referred to as terrorists, bigots, and retards while the donkey’s are idiots and procrastinators.

The fact that we have no budget (since ObamaNation), and no white house sponsored jobs plan much less anything else of value from the messiah, is becoming the norm so my expectations remain exceeded. The funny thing to me is that the president actually has very limited impact on jobs situation despite what the elephants would lead us to believe.

Am I the only one who sees this as somewhat of an Orwellian comedy? With each passing day, one party outdoes the other in self serving idiocy…

Jefferson

September 1st, 2011
1:45 pm

Failed legislation is a failure.

Lil' Barry Bailout (Revised Downward)

September 1st, 2011
1:49 pm

How many failed jobs bills does Obozo already have to his credit?

Nine. Percent. Unemployment.

UGA 1999

September 1st, 2011
1:54 pm

Tony….now that was mature….I wouldnt have expected less. Thanks for living up to all of our expectations of the typical democrat!

Rafe Hollister

September 1st, 2011
1:55 pm

The “Big Dog” as Bookman called him yesterday got run under the porch, with his tail between his legs. He should never match wits with Boehner, he loses everytime.

Kyle Wingfield

September 1st, 2011
1:57 pm

You know, Tony, the more you wrote, the more you reminded me of someone I thought I’d already banned once. So I checked. And then banned you again.

Rafe Hollister

September 1st, 2011
2:00 pm

stevieray

Oh, you must be mistaken about no jobs plan. I saw a clip of an Aug 2010 interview he did with Brian Williams, and he said as soon as he got back from Martha’s Vineyard and his vacation he was going to present a jobs bill. The man absolutely would not lie, I mean he is the President.

Seems like he plans to deliver this time, after his 2011 Martha’s Vineyard vacation. A year late, so we can hardly wait to hear his package. I’m sure it will be the same old ideological crap wrapped in new threads.

JF McNamara

September 1st, 2011
2:03 pm

Making a big ordeal over such a mundane detail as the timing of a speech cannot inspire much confidence, even in those still disposed to support the media and their opinions, that they are going to get it right with the big issues of jobs and the economy. They’ll simply go for headlines and follow the biggest carnival barkers.

UGA 1999

September 1st, 2011
2:10 pm

If I were a candidate and I were going to debate Obama on television. I would just hold up a sign that says 9.1% and $14TRILLION.

I think that would be enough to win.

Rafe Hollister

September 1st, 2011
2:11 pm

Hillbilly D

You are right, both sides only interested in reelection. I think that is because the stakes are so high. For the Dems, if he loses, another one termer, repudiation of their collectivest agenda. Reps, if they lose, more of the same, and Barry’s Fundamental Change of America gets a second wind.

I thought 2008 was important, because unlike some of my friends, I believed Obama to be everything he said he was; they thought he was just catering to the lefties and would not be able to get his radical agenda through, and they were sick of Bush.

Well I think 2012 is essential, that America’s future is in the balance.

stevie ray

September 1st, 2011
2:15 pm

Rafe, I guess I’m busted. I get confused. I thought last years Martha’s Vineyard vacation resulted in the budget proposal that was actually equally popular with both parties. You know, the middle of the road is a hard place to navigate for me these days. Not sure who scares me the most, the messiah with a impotent congress, or the evangelical mystics with an impotent congress…

Good thing I died in a helicopter crash and have no worries.

Lil' Barry Bailout (Revised Downward)

September 1st, 2011
2:21 pm

If you’re just concerned about your own reelection it seems the thing to do would be to make sure as much money is spent on you constituents as possible. There are a few in Congress who don’t pursue that strategy. They’re called tea partyers.

Walker B. Fortythree

September 1st, 2011
2:24 pm

Walker B….and your point? This after Barack said “My muslim faith”?

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You are a maroon. My Muslim faith compared to me being a dictator?! Tealops are the worst!

UGA 1999

September 1st, 2011
2:25 pm

Walker….you are right we were not attacked on 9/11 by a dictator! There is NO comparison!

Walker B. Fortythree

September 1st, 2011
2:26 pm

If you’re just concerned about your own reelection it seems the thing to do would be to make sure as much money is spent on you constituents as possible. There are a few in Congress who don’t pursue that strategy. They’re called tea partyers.

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Tealop drool! You have all the makings of a fine Jim Jones lackey.

Walker B. Fortythree

September 1st, 2011
2:27 pm

Walker….you are right we were not attacked on 9/11 by a dictator! There is NO comparison!

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More tealop drool! Gosh, can you dimwitted tealops grow just a few brain cells?

UGA 1999

September 1st, 2011
2:30 pm

Treelops….now that is a funny word! Nice!

Gm

September 1st, 2011
2:34 pm

UGA 1999

We still had to show bush respect even if 3,000 Americans died under his administration:
We never heard a heard a word from you hypocrites on the right when Dick C. and his billion dollar company was building up Irag infrastructure””” but when this President tries to invest in our 19th 20th century infastructure you Anti Americans fight him tooth and nail.

UGA 1999

September 1st, 2011
2:38 pm

Gm….really, how did you show repsect to Bush? How? “We never heard a heard a word”?? Really? “Anti” Americans…..HAHA NOW THAT IS FUNNY! Thanks for the laugh.

Speaking of infrastructure, how do recommend he pay for it? This should be good…..

stevie ray

September 1st, 2011
2:40 pm

Walker 43, I’m truly confused by your post. First, to incinuate that either party has a corner on the re-election, self-preservation priority is not a well thought out proposition. Second, its seems to me that there are several symptoms of such self servicing but I’m not sure where getting money for constituents gets traction. In my view, there are other more accurate indications including special interest addiction, tenure, saying virtually anything to get elected, general herd mentality, and in some isolated instances, changing parties….To me they are all the same. I’d sure like to see term limits….

JDW

September 1st, 2011
2:43 pm

@ Kyle…”I have a friend who buys me a beer every time some inane “silver spoon” comment shows up on the blog…cheers, Tony!”

I’ll post it twice a day if you share. :lol:

saywhat?

September 1st, 2011
2:45 pm

Is the scheduling of a speech vs scheduling of a debate really so important? Is it of such significance that it truly takes on a multitude of greater meanings? Or is it simply a slow news day?

For those who think it signifies political disaster, look on the bright side, at least the White House didn’t decide to invade yet another middle eastern country, further deregulate Wall Street, or mismanage a natural disaster response, as seemingly “unimportant” and “inconsequential” as those things might seem to be right now (or 6-8 years from now). On the other hand, cheer up! Maybe Obama will wear the wrong color socks tomorrow, signalling the start of more Republican pearl-clutching and wailing and gnashing of teeth.

Kyle Wingfield

September 1st, 2011
2:45 pm

JDW

September 1st, 2011
2:47 pm

As for the topic it tells me two things:

1) Obama needs a new appointments gopher because this is a tad embarrassing.

2) Can you imagine Tip O’Neil telling Ronnie “sorry that time won’t work”? Frankly I don’t think even ol’ Newt would stoop this low.

JDW

September 1st, 2011
2:48 pm

:lol: Just name the time and place you old silver spooner.

UGA 1999

September 1st, 2011
2:49 pm

JDW….how is it “low”. Do you not think Obama scheduled his conference to interupt the GOP debate on purpose? Who is being low?