Witnessing (maybe) the final days of Gadhafi’s brutal rule

The remarkable Arab Spring has taken yet another remarkable turn. This time it’s in Tripoli, where rebels entered Libya’s capital city with shocking ease and, for the moment, appear poised to take control of the city and nation from Moammar Gadhafi. From the Associated Press:

Tanks opened fire at rebels trying to storm Moammar Gadhafi’s main compound in Tripoli on Monday, although the whereabouts of the longtime Libyan leader remained unknown a day after a lightning advance by opposition fighters who poured into Tripoli capital with surprising ease.

The international community meanwhile called on the longtime leader to step down as euphoric residents celebrated in the Green Square, the symbolic heart of the Gadhafi regime. NATO promised to continue airstrikes until all pro-Gadhafi forces surrender or return to barracks.

Rebel spokesman Mohammed Abdel-Rahman, who was in Tripoli, cautioned that pockets of resistance remained and that as long as Gadhafi remains on the run the “danger is still there.”

The rebels sure did transform from ragtag retreaters into capital conquerors in a hurry. Not one month ago, their commander was killed and the members of their executive board dismissed — signs of disarray on their part. Time will tell how their turnaround came about, and whether it will turn out any better than what seems to be happening in Egypt.

In any case, for Gadhafi’s sons to be brought into the rebels’ custody, and the dictator himself perhaps at the unwilling end of his 42-year regime, is another stunning moment in history.

– By Kyle Wingfield

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Joel Edge

August 22nd, 2011
8:11 am

“is another stunning moment in history.”
Yes it is. Hopefully something good will come of it. I would be lying if I said I expected something good, but let’s wait and see.

Pale Horse

August 22nd, 2011
8:13 am

EUROPE JUST DECIDED THE BEST FUTURE FOR ITSELF IN LIBYA AFRICA, NOT LIBYA. N.A.T.O. just bombed an African nation’s infrastructure, water supply and women and children to steal pure oil and 160 tons of gold and the media makes it sound like they are some heroes. smh

London rioters are thugs but Libyan riots are a revolutionary acts. smh@NATO (Shaking My Head At N.A.T.O.)

Gaddafi made this nation the most developed African nation. Apartheid and the set back of an independent continent with 1 Africa gold dinar, 1 African army, a Central Bank for African development and a United States Of Africa are set back today.

Africa as a continent just got set back because the European control that has exploited Africa’s gold, oil and people (slaves) for centuries had just taken the “African IMF” (Libya) from Africa. Libyan get free education even if they want to go abroad, free electricity and free health care. All Libyans citizens owned a percentage of the countries gold.

THE MOST DEVELOPED AFRICA NATION WAS THE ENEMY!!! Hmmm.. Interesting!

Libya was helping to strengthen all of Africa, not just Libya. They stole the billions and now they are giving the rebels loans. The country will be in debt and a slave just like America is.

So nobody is going to mention the genocide and Lynching of black Africans in Libya by the rebels????? Not CNN, MSNBC or FOX???? Hmm Also interresting!!!

independent thinker

August 22nd, 2011
8:13 am

Twenty years after the Bush cowboys drew up the first posse to go after Sadaam and over a trillion dollars in lost treasure and thousands of lives, Libya falls without American boots on the ground and the dictator is ground to a pulp by his own people. Of course the Bush II policy of saddling up with Gaddafi and giving him military aide and diplomatic recognition is a farce already forgotten by most people.Thank God for NATO – the most cohesive and successful military alliance in history that drew its origins from the invasion on D-Day.It has been vindicated again. And the US did not need to lose lives and call the shots as the right wing chicken hawks and pseudo cowboys screamed months ago.
Have we learned anything??????????????

carlosgvv

August 22nd, 2011
8:54 am

Gadhafi is a brutal dictator who deserves to be removed. Unfortunately, History teaches that revolutions often replace bad with worse. The French Revolution, which gave us Napoleon, The Russian Revolution, which gave us Stalin and Lenin and The Cuban Revolution, which gave us Castro serve as examples. Let’s just hope this revolution turns out better.

Dumb and Dumber

August 22nd, 2011
9:15 am

If anything goes wrong, its Obama’s fault. Either he should have acted more forcefully to put troops on the ground or he should have stayed out of the war and let Libyans do it on there own. And if the Libyan’s are successful? Then Obama should get zero credit. That’s my favorite part of this.

Road Scholar

August 22nd, 2011
9:16 am

Well, I guess President Obama’s “third war” (as stated by conservatives) appears to be coming to an end w/o one US death. While they preach self determination in regards to ones carreer, the conservatives don’t see the parallel as to citizens of Libya overthrowing their government on their own. (I know NATO helped, but the brunt of the fighting was done by Libyans.) Thank God the previous calls for us to do more and to get more involved (McCain) were not followed.
I hope that the emergence of a new government results in a positive player in the world, esp the arab world.

old timer

August 22nd, 2011
9:16 am

I wonder if what they get will be any better?

Tommy Maddox

August 22nd, 2011
9:25 am

Bravo and good luck Libya.

JF McNamara

August 22nd, 2011
9:29 am

A good outcome for Libya. An excellent outcome for us.

Given their record, can you imagine how poorly the W. administration would have bungled this? Taking the conservative commentary at the time, we would have boots on the ground, and getting into another 10 year quagmire. Hopefully, Obama’s strategy becomes our primary strategy for handling this type of thing.

Jimmy62

August 22nd, 2011
9:42 am

Iraq did for Libya a lot. It allowed the people of Libya to see that there is an alternative to what they’ve had, that freedom and independence are possible in the Middle East, even democracy. Bush mentioned time and time again that he hoped a free Iraq became an example to the rest of the middle east that a society free of oppressive dictators is possible and can happen for everyone else, too.

And now we are seeing the fruits of those efforts. Y’all can ignore the contributions made by Bush’s Iraq involvement, but that doesn’t mean it’s not true. This is exactly the sort of thing Bush predicted and hoped for. Now let’s all hope it continues to move in the right direction.

Lil' Barry Bailout (Revised Downward)

August 22nd, 2011
9:45 am

Let’s hope Syria is next.

Lil' Barry Bailout (Revised Downward)

August 22nd, 2011
9:49 am

Pale Horse: London rioters are thugs but Libyan riots are a revolutionary acts.
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Correct.

Isn’t it sad when folks equate a terrorist-coddling outlaw regime with a duly elected democratic government and think both should be treated the same?

JDW

August 22nd, 2011
9:52 am

@Jimmy62

“And now we are seeing the fruits of those efforts. Y’all can ignore the contributions made by Bush’s Iraq involvement, but that doesn’t mean it’s not true.”

The fruits of those efforts are, 4792 troops dead, 30,000+ troops wounded, 100,000+ civilians dead, an untold number of civilian wounded and more than $790 BILLION and counting in US DEBT. All for an outcome that is likely worse than if we had done nothing.

Only fruit here is rattling around in the heads of people trying to justify a terrible decision by our worst President in history.

Lil' Barry Bailout (Revised Downward)

August 22nd, 2011
9:56 am

JDW: Denier.

Our President Bush established a large democracy smack in the middle east and the Arab Spring is the echo of it. Bush deserves full credit for setting this in motion.

Road Scholar

August 22nd, 2011
9:58 am

JIMMY62: Now now! Blaming Bush is not allowed by conservatives!

Road Scholar

August 22nd, 2011
10:00 am

LBB: President Obama didn’t get Bin Laden (as per the consevative mindset) so how did President Bush establish a democracy?

MarkV

August 22nd, 2011
10:03 am

Jimmy62 @9:42 am: Are you serious? Why not give credit for Libya to George Washington , or ancient Greeks?

Lil' Barry Bailout (Revised Downward)

August 22nd, 2011
10:08 am

Establishing a democracy in Iraq was Bush’s idea. Come to think of it, so was getting bin Laden!

DannyX

August 22nd, 2011
10:10 am

Has anyone ever won the Nobel Peace prize twice???? Bin Laden now Gadhafi in the same year.

Congrats President Noboma.

JDW

August 22nd, 2011
10:11 am

@LBB…”Our President Bush established a large democracy smack in the middle east and the Arab Spring is the echo of it. Bush deserves full credit for setting this in motion.”

HORSE HOOEY…your DUHBYA, created a cesspool of corruption and a huge opportunity for Iran. Along the way he wasted the lives of our service people and our dollars. If you think for one second that the government Duhbya, hurried to create (got to manage those polls you know) is a long-term functioning democracy you are nuts. The only thing we have in Iraq is a long-term problem. If you think it was bad before, just wait until we pull out.

The Arab Spring is the direct result of the rise in Social Media. Disaffected groups in constant communication will always lead to upheaval. The situation in Iraq had no positive impact what so ever.

Road Scholar

August 22nd, 2011
10:12 am

Having an idea and doing it are two quite different items!

Lil' Barry Bailout (Revised Downward)

August 22nd, 2011
10:20 am

Poor JDW, left trying to explain away our President Bush’s successful effort to bring freedom to oppressed millions throughout the middle east.

Ironically, I doubt that President Bush much cares what the haters and deniers have to say about it. He always did the right thing, regardless of the poll numbers or blatherings of the idiotarian anti-anti-terror leftists.

Lil' Barry Bailout (Revised Downward)

August 22nd, 2011
10:27 am

Having an idea and doing it are two quite different items!
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Like Obozo’s ideas on reducing his unemployment numbers or budget deficit?

Jack

August 22nd, 2011
10:47 am

I have it on pretty good authority that Hillary is going to run Libya for us.

Dacula 1995

August 22nd, 2011
10:51 am

Isnt this the exact same scenerio that the Dems were calling Bush out for in Iraq. Somehow you dont hear the same arguements coming from the left regarding Obama….nice.

Hillbilly D

August 22nd, 2011
11:04 am

Not one month ago, their commander was killed and the members of their executive board dismissed — signs of disarray on their part.

That would suggest that somebody else stepped up and started driving the bus. If NATO was using airpower only, I’d be surprised. Somebody from somewhere had some boots on the ground there, at least in a special ops category, in my opinion.

Gadhafi being gone is a good thing, if that is indeed the case. The initial blood bath was averted and now we’ll see if it was prevented or just postponed. This thing is far from over, as is the situation in Egypt and elsewhere. We’ll just have to wait and see what happens next.

JDW

August 22nd, 2011
11:07 am

@Dacula 1995 “Isnt this the exact same scenerio that the Dems were calling Bush out for in Iraq.”

What on earth are you talking about…maybe you are just too young to remember. The Dems were not “calling Bush out”. In fact a majority of the Dems in Congress and many military leaders opposed the resolution. Bush was selling and selling hard. I remember things like:

–On July 28, 2002, eight months before the invasion of Iraq, the Washington Post reported that “many senior U.S. military officers” including members of the Joint Chiefs of Staff opposed an invasion on the grounds that the policy of containment was working.

–Brent Scowcroft, who served as National Security Adviser to President George H.W. Bush was an early critic. He wrote an August 15, 2002 editorial in The Wall Street Journal entitled “Don’t attack Saddam,” arguing that the war would distract from the broader fight against terrorism and the Israeli-Palestinian conflict, which should be the U.S.’s highest priority in the Middle East. (All of which has proven true)

–The next month, Gen. Hugh Shelton, former Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, agreed that war in Iraq would distract from the War on Terrorism

–By January 19, 2003, TIME Magazine reported that “as many as 1 in 3 senior officers questions the wisdom of a preemptive war with Iraq

Dacula 1995

August 22nd, 2011
11:17 am

JDW…being very selective eh?

Dacula 1995

August 22nd, 2011
11:21 am

carlosgvv

August 22nd, 2011
11:23 am

Pale Horse

Please let me know what you have been drinking so I can order myself a case.

MrLiberty

August 22nd, 2011
11:36 am

When will the brutal regime of the republican-democrats in this country end?

double

August 22nd, 2011
11:40 am

One world government fast approaching.

Dacula 1995

August 22nd, 2011
11:43 am

brutal regime…..hahaha nice Mr. Liberty.

Will

August 22nd, 2011
11:49 am

The “Buck” stops with the President. It’s just a fact of politics/business – the CEO gets the credit and blame regardless of whether the CEO actually did anything to deserve either.

It’s a tough day for partisan republicans who are so afraid that the President will get any type of “bump” from this. These type people would much rather win an election than see the world/country improve.

Be honest, would you rather see a steady decline in unemployment over the next 13 months or see President Obama defeated? Thanks for your honesty.

What’s that you say, democrats are no better? Democrats could not bring themselves to applaud Presdient Bush over the success of the surge in Iraq out of fear that it would be helpful to Senator McCain?

You are 100% correct but I am surprised that the standard to which you seek adherence is no better than to be like a democrat.

Junior Samples

August 22nd, 2011
11:55 am

We all knew lil’ barry has out there, we just didn’t know how far.

“He (President Bush) always did the right thing”

You obviously don’t know anyone on the Gulf Coast.

Hillbilly D

August 22nd, 2011
12:03 pm

I doubt this having any effect on the 2012 election, one way or the other. In 2-3 weeks it’ll be forgotten by most and we’ll be on to the next “crisis”.

Rafe Hollister

August 22nd, 2011
12:13 pm

Glad Qaddafi is going, but not sure how this is going to help the world. Hope someone puts that murderer Qaddafi on trial and executes him.

I am afraid that in three months this will be a non story, much like Egypt, just another leaderless group of Muslims fighting among themselves, until a dictator or group of thugs take over.

Jackie

August 22nd, 2011
12:31 pm

What are the odds on how long it will be before the “peace loving Muslims” of Libya start suicide bombing themselves like all the other “peace loving Muslims” in Iraq, Afghanistan, Pakistan, etc.etc.? Some reporter(?) said that the Libyan opposition group in London was “just like us, they want democracy and freedom” yeah, right! They want power and control of the oil money, and they don’t care who they have to liquidate to get it. Smile and pat them on the back until you get control and then eliminate your enemies as fast as possible while keeping up the “democracy and freedom” facade. It seems to be working in Egypt, Iraq, and Afghanistan, no reason that the same scenario won’t play in downtown Tripoli. Good riddance to bad trash in the person of Kadaffi but don’t expect much better from the little tribal leaders who will soon begin cutting each others throats in their attempt to replace him. Of course they will need a little bit of financial aid from the good old USA and the Europeans; but not to worry they are all good “peace loving Musilms” who are still living in the middle ages and proud of it.

Hillbilly D

August 22nd, 2011
12:41 pm

Junior Samples

You might like to read this about your namesake.

http://www.gainesvilletimes.com/section/101/article/54705/

Frigmund Scroid

August 22nd, 2011
1:04 pm

As a registered Republican, will someone please tell me whether this is good news or bad news?

There seems to be a difference in opinion. Until this is resolved, I’ll go with the “Obummer just let the terrorists win” angle.

Lil' Barry Bailout (Revised Downward)

August 22nd, 2011
1:16 pm

“You obviously don’t know anyone on the Gulf Coast.”
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On the contrary. I have family in Slidell and Marerro; they all did the smart thing and left, and they’re all back to normal. The sob stories of the parasites waiting for someone else to help them get all the press though.

Lil' Barry Bailout (Revised Downward)

August 22nd, 2011
1:19 pm

Frigmond, if you were really a Republican you wouldn’t need anyone to tell you what to think. You’ve just outed yourself as a lying Democrat!

Frigmund Scroid

August 22nd, 2011
1:31 pm

LBB

I thought you would understand sarcasm. Surely you don’t believe all the fecal debris that you post.

Duck Cheney

August 22nd, 2011
2:10 pm

Gaddafi was the first terrorist regime to attack and kill hundreds of Americans on a civilian airliner yet Bush II made him a partner in the war on terror. If he had stayed in office longer Bush probably would have done the same for Osama. Amazing how those neocons can cozy up to those terriorist dictators and then make a big deal of lassoing them at the rodeo only to kiss and make up afterwards. Where are their scruples?
Good example – old McNamara was Reagan’s emissary to Iraq.
Clinton and NATO got it right in Yugoslovia and we have stability todayHopefully Obama and NATO got it righht in Libya. And what do we have to show for twenty years of military intervention in Iraq?
And what have we truly accomplished by being the lead dog in Afghanistan after ten years? I am waiting to see the Hannity/Limbaugh/Wingfield/Boortz//Beck/Coulter/Ingram spin on this.I am sure they are praying for a divisive revolution following Libya’s liberation. Or could they just dare utter the Texas cowboy’s mantra of “Mission Accomplished”?

JF McNamara

August 22nd, 2011
2:44 pm

Wow, people giving credit to Bush for this. Only a contortionist could bend the story that hard. He was BFFs with Musharref and Kaddafi.

Even if he is responsable, what do we get out Libya having Democracy? It’s not the cold war. We are getting our resources anyway. The price of gas and oil isn’t going to fall because Libya’s people can vote. Democratic OPEC, like Dictator OPEC, would still hold all the cards.

Hillbilly D

August 22nd, 2011
4:01 pm

what do we get out Libya having Democracy?

We got rid of Gadhafi and people of most every political persuasion, think that’s a good thing, whether they agree with how it happened or not. We might get one less trouble spot in the world or we might not, that remains to be seen. Naive of me I guess, but I’d like to see all the world get to have leaders of its own choosing. Few times that we can actually do anything about that, though.

This time we at least stalled a blood bath, and maybe we prevented one but time will tell on that. From here it’s up to the Libyans and they’ll need help, which should come from Europe and their neighbors. It’s their back yard.

Joel Edge

August 23rd, 2011
7:08 am

It’s good thing you “maybe” the title of that article, Kyle. Don’t look like it’s over just yet.