Three cheap ways for Obama to spur job growth
“We should not have to choose,” President Barack Obama said this past week, “between getting our fiscal house in order and jobs and growth.”
If that sounds unobjectionable, that’s because it’s another of those “false choices” Obama imagines to be filling the minds of everyone else in America.
But the solution is not more public spending now and higher taxes later to pay for it.
Corporate balance sheets are flush with cash. Banks have the problem of a “reverse run”: Instead of a rush of withdrawals, they have too much money coming in (which are recorded as liabilities and raise their deposit-insurance costs).
Private money is available. But capital has gone on strike.
The way to get jobs and growth without adding to the debt is not to seize it through taxes or government borrowing and force it into the economy. Washington has tried that.
What hasn’t been tried lately is encouraging private actors to put their money to work on their own volition. Here are three low- or no-cost possibilities for Obama:
1. Make some phone calls.
Not to business leaders, but to his own Cabinet secretaries.
In a recent appearance on Fox News, a former chief economist for the Labor Department, Diana Furchtgott-Roth, said Obama could “make things a lot easier on employers and on hiring” by telling the bureaucracy to stop making new rules that crimp businesses.
“He could call EPA Administrator Lisa Jackson and say, ‘Why don’t we just hold off on those new ozone rules, or clean air rules, until the unemployment rate is down to 7 percent?’ ,” Furchtgott-Roth said.
“He could call his Interior secretary and say, ‘Why don’t we just allow more oil drilling in the Gulf [of Mexico]?’ Because there’s been a moratorium since the BP oil spill — that’s about a year and a half ago.
“He could tell his National Labor Relations Board acting general counsel, Lafe Solomon, ‘Hey, why don’t you just lay off Boeing?’ Because Boeing wants to open a new plant in South Carolina to build [787] Dreamliners, and [Solomon] says they can only a new plant in Washington state, where they have their existing plant.”
The list, she said, is long. “Each cabinet secretary is doing things that impede businesses from creating jobs.”
2. Temporarily lower the minimum wage.
I don’t mean lowering existing workers’ wages. Rather, allow companies to pay additional hires a little less. To sweeten the deal, the government might continue to pay the new worker a portion of any jobless benefits to which he or she is still entitled, to offset the lower wage. This would save the government from paying full unemployment benefits while lowering the company’s cost.
One of the more ill-timed moves by Congress in recent years was that of the new Democratic majorities in 2007 to raise the minimum wage in three steps. Even after the recession hit, the floor for wages kept rising. The higher wages have only hurt the millions of low-paid workers who lost jobs.
In fact, the jobless rate for high-school dropouts began rising soon after the 2007 bill. By this July, it stood at 15 percent — much higher than any other grouping by education level.
The absolute number of 16- to 19-year-olds with jobs in July was the lowest since 1963 — when there were 5 million fewer Americans in that age range.
3. Tear down some houses.
Normally, I would agree with 19th century French economist Frederic Bastiat’s “broken window fallacy.” You don’t create wealth by destroying wealth.
But hundreds of thousands of foreclosed houses are already destroying wealth by bringing down the value of other homes. And the longer they sit empty, the more likely they’ll become uninhabitable anyway because of mold or other conditions.
The feds own about 248,000 foreclosed homes. They should follow the example of some commercial banks and raze a portion of them. This would create truly shovel-ready jobs in an ailing sector, and perhaps end the freefall of home values.
– By Kyle Wingfield
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Lil' Barry Bailout (Revised Downward)
August 21st, 2011
8:22 am
Obozo put $800 billion in the hands of people who have NO choice but to spend it. He told us it would keep unemployment from rising above 8%.
How’d that work out?
Lil' Barry Bailout (Revised Downward)
August 21st, 2011
8:27 am
The U.S. has the second-highest corporate tax rate in the industrialized world and is one of the very few who tax profits earned abroad. Is it any wonder that they and their jobs are moving to more business-friendly environs? Go ahead and close whatever “loopholes” you want and see what happens. It won’t be what the libtards expect.
Michael H. Smith
August 21st, 2011
8:55 am
Bill – The problem is not a lack of demand, in my opinion. It is however an abundance of demand with no or little money to provide for buying what is a pent-up demand for goods and services. People have not stopped buying because they no longer need or want to buy proverbial widgets and gadgets. Simply having the government print-up or borrow more money from anyone dumb enough to lend us more in order to, as some say, put money into people’s hands, is a short term counter productive solution that digs the hole deeper & makes the problems worse. That has been done already, so what part of that failure don’t we get – trillions of dollars spent, millions of jobs lost and several generations of unborn American put into debt for a lifetime!
The idea of just rob the rich to pay for a grandiose government giveaway to the poor will simply repeat a failed process that sent these rich corporations and their money out of this country. It is a very big mistake to think rich people can’t or will not leave this country an take their money with them. They have before and they will again when forced into a losing situation.
As distasteful as this sounds to a great many one of the hard steps that must be taken, will be having to compete by lowering our corporate tax rates here in this country to equal the corporate tax rates of other countries in order to attract or re-attract these off-shore outsourcing corporations to relocate their money and jobs in America to put money into people’s hands.
The idea is to reward them for returning money&jobs to America and punish them only for not bring U.S. dollars&jobs back to our shores. Otherwise, it will be more of the same demagoguery made worse several times over. Which unfortunately is about what I think will happen in reality, even though it shouldn’t.
GT
August 21st, 2011
9:20 am
The problem with Michael H. Smith is he parrots and has no real idea what he is talking about. None of this came out while Bush was spending, it was saved for Obama. The problem with this country is business have become so big they cannot turn around fast enough for change. The same people that promote the government getting smaller are the same people that want to depend upon big business to fix the problem. Big business not the citizens of this country now controls this country. If they are dinosaurs they have the political clot to stay in existence. The easy credit that put us into recession was a road paved in gold for these businesses. They sold product to people that could not afford it. Made their books look good under a false atmosphere. Someone makes money when the rest of us lose money and it is this group that in essence has run a ponzi scheme cheating the citizens of this country and keeping the money, being then bailed out by the same citizens that have lost the blood.
Business need to be smaller more responsible to the local communities. Be able to be flexible and competitive. We do not need to entrench these robber barons any more they take care of themselves quit well without our help.
Lil' Barry Bailout (Revised Downward)
August 21st, 2011
9:24 am
I doubt that the solution is smaller, less efficient businesses and higher prices.
MarkV
August 21st, 2011
9:43 am
“The U.S. has the second-highest corporate tax rate in the industrialized world and is one of the very few who tax profits earned abroad.”
General Electric Paid No Federal Taxes in 2010
The company, led by Immelt, earned $14.2 billion in profits in 2010, but it paid not a penny in taxes because the bulk of those profits, some $9 billion, were offshore.
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/general-electric-paid-federal-taxes-2010/story?id=13224558
Michael H. Smith
August 21st, 2011
10:03 am
Yeah, I Michael H. Smith, saved up the obumer failed promises just so I could parrot his failures against him after bush was gone!
obumer promise: just let me borrow and spend trillions dollars and I promise unemployment will not go above 8%.
Reality, unemployment went above 10% and remains at 9% and above now.
obumer has alienated business of all sizes with his uncertainties, irresponsible actions and thanks to him small businesses have definitely become smaller in their communities, while larger corporations sit on all that cash as their profits increase and their payrolls don’t. Thanks lil barack, you are just what this country needs to remain in that ditch you made deeper.
Now carry on with the demagoguery socialist liberals and make the failures worse.
GT
August 21st, 2011
10:11 am
Less efficient businesses? When we are bailing out these whales that term was mentioned a lot, but not about small businesses, about big business. Big business with small government is an incubator for more of what we saw in the Bush administration. We need a new industry more suited to community and not callus to their demands and how it treats people. These businesses will grow and become big businesses but if they cannot support themselves except by cheating, political connection and unrealistic credit conditions they should fail. The market has lost its voting power when the game is shacked against them. You get false results from the economy because you are artificially supporting the rich and corporate sectors. There is no market for a million dollar house so we make one by giving money away. There is no market for Las Vegas but we make one by giving away credit card money and tax deductions. Junk bonds built Vegas and much of this other nonsense. Then free credit to unqualified buyers supported it. Now the rich that made money off these schemes don’t even pay taxes, which are minor in effect but adds insult to injury. This country looks like a bomb went off, empty houses, homeless, and jobless. If we had grown business from the grassroots, not gone to the market and got a ton of money and then tried to grow into that money overnight we would not be having these problems. If we had not booked profit from unmade money to make the books look successful and the stock prices unrealistic. Billionaires under 30 were made in a matter of months. And in all this we lost respect for the average laborer. You were a loser if you delivered or labored. Working at McDonald’s became a term for loser. Colleges opened up on every street corner, diplomas became watered down, education got watered down. Then somewhere we started mixing God into it. Then churches started being mega too. Buses bring up from the parking lot to the church door. Our face doesn’t look familiar to the preacher or our neighbors or our banker, or our employer. The government is not to blame for this they were no where to be found in the last administration. Madoff and Enron were having field days, but a lot more were that never entered prison and never will as tumbleweeds roll through our streets. How do we forget so soon?
Michael H. Smith
August 21st, 2011
10:12 am
Made their books look good under a false atmosphere
Yeah, they took their money and our American jobs offshore to avoid paying your supported 35% corporate tax rate, Socialist Brucie.
I can’t blame them for being smarter than you but I can blame you and obuner for being dumber than them!
Rafe Hollister
August 21st, 2011
10:26 am
Obama and the Dems just get more detached from reality. First it was channeling space aliens, now Obama can’t accept that people do not like his policies.
VINEYARD HAVEN, Mass. (AP) — President Barack Obama says his low approval rating is a reflection of public unhappiness with Congress.
Has nothing to do with failing policies or lack of leadership, I think he is saying!!
Lil' Barry Bailout (Revised Downward)
August 21st, 2011
10:32 am
I don’t recall our President Bush or our President Reagan bothering to comment on their poll numbers, much less spending time figuring out who to blame.
Obozo: Loser.
Rafe Hollister
August 21st, 2011
10:41 am
LBB, our Blamer in Chief takes responsibility for nothing, nothing, including his own low poll numbers. Wouldn’t you think that would be the only thing he couldn’t blame on others?
GT
August 21st, 2011
10:54 am
One of the largest industries we have in this country is the illegal drug industry. It is funny how the American public supports the drug business. If there was not a demand there wouldn’t be drugs sold and the violence would not be here. Obviously there is a market for drugs that is stronger than the fear of prison or violence or public perception. Now here is a market not artificially made in fact we try to kill it and can’t. It can’t go overseas the market is here. Billions of untaxed dollars in a business that has to be in the US, it is the only country rich enough to support it, much of that money now going to Mexico to crime lords. They have done this without banks or financing, mostly a cash business; it is grass rooted and very successful. The largest dollar spent in the justice department is spent on stopping this business. Keystone cops against real free enterprise doesn’t work does it?
If corporation don’t need American markets we don’t need them. They move out of this country but still want access to our markets, how does that work? I think everything sold in this country should have a federal tax, including drugs. Let the corporations move wherever they want but if you want access to our market you will pay. If these companies cut off the sell of products then some American, small business, takes up the stack and American labor gets the job instead of some Chinese labor. Either pay or you are welcome to leave. Prices go up but so does the American economy. No taxes hikes, cost cutting is still on and Americans are working.
GT
August 21st, 2011
10:58 am
I wouldn’t use President Bush as a model of what a president should look like. If the Republicans were electing Reagan types I would still be a Republican. I’m with the Reagan family who are tired of all these rednecks claiming ownership to the Reagan legacy when they are about nothing the man stood for.
MarkV
August 21st, 2011
11:09 am
The Obama-haters are disgusting hypocrites. The pretend that history starts with Obama’s inauguration. They claim that it is Obama’s “anti-business policy” that is responsible for the slow recovery, but care not to mention that Bush’s policy and decisions ended with the worst recession in many decades. They ignore that the unemployment increase occurred between May 2008 and October 2009, clearly the effect of the Bush’s recession, not Obama’s policy. They ignore that the stimulus did stop the slide. They gloat about the low GDP growth rate this year, but never mention the huge GDP contraction at the end of Bush’s presidency.
Since they do not have the facts on their side, theObama-haters resort to the most nauseating name calling of the President (Idiot, moron, fascist, lying, do-nothing sack of excrement). And some of them then have the chutzpah to ask “Why is it that liberals use the most profane language in the human universe…?”
MarkV
August 21st, 2011
11:09 am
The Republicans cynically use the plight of the unemployed for the political gain. They do what they can to block help to unemployed in order to make them turn against Obama. Mike Luckovich got it exactly right in today’s cartoon. GOP’s jobs plan: “Block efforts to lower unemployment rates. Obama gets blamed.”
Lil' Barry Bailout (Revised Downward)
August 21st, 2011
11:13 am
Where’s the “change”?
Michael H. Smith
August 21st, 2011
11:16 am
Don’t worry brucie we market capitalists will not take your claim on marx and obumer. Emulate them both all you want.
Meanwhile, we’ll just keeping working to get rid of you socialists and replace obumer & ilk come 2012, promptly lower corporate tax rates, roll out the welcome mat to business once again willing to repatriate money & jobs to Americans and put out our sign globally UNDER NEW “BUSINESS FRIENDLY” MANAGEMENT !
Lil' Barry Bailout (Revised Downward)
August 21st, 2011
11:18 am
Who did you blame for unemployment when our President Bush was in office? Obozo has been in office going on three years.
And which Obozo jobs plan have the Republicans blocked? Didn’t think so. Liar.
Phil's Tel-A-Gramm
August 21st, 2011
11:21 am
Kyle even admitted that corporate balance sheets are flush with cash so I think it is quite obvious that they are not being overly burdened with excessive taxation. As for regulations, if you Republicans wish to take your chances with the food that you eat and the medicines that you take and the water that you drink and do the same for your families, more power to you but leave me out of the profit at all cost, even life, belief. Finally, if you and your families wish to work for fifty cents per hour just so you can claim to be employed, there’s no one here going to stop you. Have fun with that strategy for reducing unemployment. To think that you are the same people that whine every time someone says that billionaires should at least pay more than 15% in income taxes because that would prevent them from helping our economy is laughable.
Phil's Tel-A-Gramm
August 21st, 2011
11:23 am
The only plan the Republicans have for jobs or anything else is the whine plan. Just ask Gramm.
Michael H. Smith
August 21st, 2011
11:42 am
Kyle even admitted that corporate balance sheets are flush with cash so I think it is quite obvious that they are not being overly burdened with excessive taxation.
Of course corporations that are flush with cash are not being overly burdened with excessive taxation, they have all that cash offshore out of the reach of U.S. taxation. Did you think about that before making your statement? Didn’t read the 10 things that would make you mad about corporate taxes, either did you? Want to take me up on a bet that Kyle doesn’t agree with your line of thinking about those cash flush corporations but rather probably agrees with me that U.S. corporate tax rates should be lowered to competitive levels in keeping with those of other countries where U.S. corporations have relocated their money and our jobs? Want to quote Kyle in addition on that one, I’ll just bet you won’t?
Want to take another bet with me? Raise the corporate tax rate even higher, say to 50% and have obumer preach corporate responsibility, compliance with more ridiculous GUB’MENT regulations and reliance on cram-it-down-your-throat-compromise with union extortions, let see how many corporations keep their U.S. corporate charter in this country?
I’d be surprised if there were any U.S. charted corporations remaining.
Lil' Barry Bailout (Revised Downward)
August 21st, 2011
11:42 am
So the Republicans are blocking nothing, since that’s what your Idiot Messiah has proposed. Thanks for admitting that both Luckovich and you are lying.
Rich
August 21st, 2011
11:45 am
Rafe Hollister,
There is so much wrong with your thinking and assumptions. Without addressing them individually to score some points, it is important for your well being to for you to know, you may want to seek the assistance of a mental health counselor. You deserve to be happy and rid of your mental parasite image. Truly do all you can to rid yourself of all the obvious anger and ugliness you have built up, for whatever reason, justified or not. You will live longer, and have happier friends and family. Best wishes.
GT
August 21st, 2011
11:52 am
Michael H. Smith where does Bush’s bail out of Wall Street enter you capitalistic floor plan? Seems to me Wall Street is operating on government money not unlike banks in the reddest Russian in its prime. Where doe private enterprise end and government ran begin?
The reason corporations are letting cash pile up is because their stomach are full and like a lion kept as a house pet as long as they are fed they don’t need to eat. There should be an equal hunger in this country. One half should not be sleeping with a full stomach while the other half is starving. There should be a fear greater than the warmth and comfort of sitting on money to spend that money. Small businesses have to grow or not exist. If those small community banks in Georgia had had the opportunities sucked up by these inefficient large banks, which should have been out of business, there would not be as many failed community banks. Wal-mart killed many a downtown in the real America and with it real Americans that ran those businesses. Only big obsolete government protected businesses can not produce and survive. If you are going to protect, protect Americans, not Chinese workers and big business who by nature will eat us up when they are hungry.
Rafe Hollister
August 21st, 2011
11:54 am
Mark V
History did not start with Obummer’s inauguration, the promise he made to fix the economy did. What has he done? Where is his plan?
Reps want to block plans to improve unemployment? What have they blocked? Barry has no plan and has not submitted any legislation to improve unemployment. He has rammed through Obamacare, the largest job killing bill yet. He has ordered the EPA to implement Cap and Tax to limit emissions of CO2, without Congressional approval.
The stimulus/porkulus stopped the slide. I guess that didn’t make the papers, huh? Last I saw unemployment was at 9.1 after falling from 10.2. Prior to the stimulus, it was what, 7 %. Looks like it caused the slide to me.
GT
You are right about the drug trade thriving. All of the underground economy is thriving untaxed. That is why we need the Fair Tax, it fixes all your problems with the tax system and corporate america and the underground economy. We need a tax on illegal alien invasion, if Obummer is going to give them Amnesty, at least make them pay a tax for illegically crossing the border.
As far as millionaires and billionaires paying more, look at Drudge today, there is an article posted that shows that Buffets math is all screwed up. The article says that even if we taxed them at 50%, there are not enough of them and they don’t earn enough to significantly affect even one years deficit. Just the libs wanting to get even with the productive in society.
I’m tired, going to look for the Mother Ship predicted by the GW “Scientest”.
Michael H. Smith
August 21st, 2011
12:02 pm
brucie – bush didn’t enter my plan and in case you haven’t noticed he’s gone, but if it were not for bush your lil buddy barack would never have been elected prez. Now please don’t bore me with your failed ideas from marxism. If you are dumb enough to a pay a government 35% of your earning when you could get by with paying only 12%, then brucie, you have removed all doubt from my mind why you were a life-long GUB’MENT employee. Civil service protection was a necessity of life for you.
Rafe Hollister
August 21st, 2011
12:03 pm
Rich, noticed you didn’t come back with any specifics on things I was wrong on.
BTW, I am not angry, sad, or mentally disturbed. Just highly amused and entertained by the illogic that the left uses to justify their wealth redistribution, hate the rich, hate business, love Obama agenda. You are all just like little kids in the checkout line, who ask their mother for some candy, and when Mom says no we can’t afford it because Daddy got laid off, you scream, but it is not FAIR.
GT
August 21st, 2011
12:37 pm
Michael H. Smith we can back off the 35% tax on corporate but in return there is no bail outs, there is nothing illegally sold that there is a market demand for. Government resigns itself to policing in local affairs such as murder, rape and robbery. We don’t enter wars on false facts and wars that do not serve our interest as a nation. If illegal immigrants want to come to this country and improve product made in the bounties of this country as oppose to shipping jobs out of the countries because we can compete common sense will prevail not politics and bigotry. We are trying to form a country for the interest of people who in real life show no loyalty to this country. I find the illegal immigrant closer to a real American than some of this big business and Tea Party crowd. Big business leaves this country like a mafia hit man, it is just business nothing personal, the rich take and are big business and don’t pay taxes. This country is bigger than big business, the rich are there no matter the names, the rich did not make America, America made the rich. If they have no respect for the country that made them the hot shot they think they are, then go and let someone else take your place that appreciates being an American. Follow this prescription and you will find the American economy strong and well.
MarkV
August 21st, 2011
1:41 pm
Rafe Hollister 11:54 am : “Reps want to block plans to improve unemployment? What have they blocked?”
When you learn to read carefully, perhaps you will understand my point:
“The Republicans cynically use the plight of the unemployed for the political gain. They do what they can to block help to unemployed in order to make them turn against Obama. (MarkV @11:09 am) My emphasis.
“Democrats on Tuesday broke Republican-led opposition to a bill that would extend unemployment benefits to 2.5 million jobless Americans, but the vote only hardened the political divide and almost assured that any further domestic aid before November will be all but impossible.
Though the Senate reached the 60 votes needed to end a GOP filibuster and force a final vote on the legislation, prospects for the next spending bill — enabling states to avert teacher layoffs — appeared doomed.”
http://articles.latimes.com/2010/jul/20/nation/la-na-jobless-20100721
Rafe Hollister 11:54 am “History did not start with Obummer’s inauguration, the promise he made to fix the economy did. What has he done? “ “The stimulus/porkulus stopped the slide. I guess that didn’t make the papers, huh? Last I saw unemployment was at 9.1 after falling from 10.2. Prior to the stimulus, it was what, 7 %. Looks like it caused the slide to me.”
Economy is not only unemployment. As just about every economist knows, the drop in unemployment lags behind economic growth. The economy (GDP rate) was contracting starting in the third quarter of 2008. In January 2009, Obama signed the stimulus bill. The GDP rate returned to positive numbers starting in the third quarter of 2009. Looks like stopping the slide to me.
Rafe Hollister 11:54 am: “He has rammed through Obamacare, the largest job killing bill yet.”
Evidence?
Phil's Tel-A-Gramm
August 21st, 2011
2:09 pm
According to Mr. Smith, corporations need bigger tax cuts in order to increase their flush with cash situation even more because that will get them to spend it here in the US so they can become more flush with cash than before. Okay. I do not even pretend to follow that circular logic. Just admit the facts. You want to eliminate all taxes in order to eliminate all government so you will be happy and can find something else to whine about.
Lil' Barry Bailout (Revised Downward)
August 21st, 2011
2:20 pm
Maxine Waters: ‘The tea party can go straight to hell’
http://dailycaller.com/2011/08/21/maxine-waters-the-tea-party-can-go-straight-to-hell/#ixzz1VglgDA8Q
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Where’s the tolerance? Where’s the civility?
Democrats: Lying hypocrites.
snoqualmiefalls
August 21st, 2011
2:23 pm
“Lower the minimum wage”? Huh? If people have less money to spend than they do now how in the world do you expect people to spend money to pick up our consumerist economy? In my college Econ. 101 from 40 years ago i learned a basic foundation of economics
if your make more money you spend more money… DUH!
Lil' Barry Bailout (Revised Downward)
August 21st, 2011
2:25 pm
You can question whether harmonizing our tax code with every other industrialized nation, or slowing Obozo’s orgy of regulation, or ending the bashing of the productive class for the temerity of turning a profit will produce jobs.
What is not in question is the fact that your Idiot Messiah’s approach of doing the opposite has failed miserably.
Obozo will probably propose more of the same in September, thereby meeting the definition of insanity.
Lil' Barry Bailout (Revised Downward)
August 21st, 2011
2:26 pm
“if your make more money you spend more money”
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How much do you make if you don’t have a job? DUH!
Suits2aTea
August 21st, 2011
2:30 pm
The Tea Party is a symptom of a national malaise. That sickness is best described as delusional and sociopathic. The problem is the internet. The fifteen minutes of work-at-home fame and fortune that every single voter feels they deserve. Imagine 100 million Conan Obrians or Jay Lenos all competing for the attention of the same 100 million. The Tea Party gave a stage to the long-ignored mutants who were once the silent majority.
What these deranged, unhinged, and unmedicated herd-thinks don’t understand is that some real secessionist-wolves are hiding in their midst, using them as a blind. We haven’t been in this much constitutional trouble since the Civil War. The Tea Party doesn’t have a platform, other than to be against whatever our president gots. They’d childishly break a toy rather than let Obama play with it.
Suits2aTea
August 21st, 2011
2:33 pm
The definition of insanity is not “doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different result”. Einstein was refering to quantum physics, where the same experiment does yield different results. He thought it was crazy to believe in a theory like that.
No shortage of ignorance in the Tea Party.
Linda
August 21st, 2011
2:53 pm
Kyle, my comments are not going through.
I Report (-: You Whine )-: Thee Magnificent!!! mmm, mmmm, mmmmm! Just sayin...
August 21st, 2011
3:03 pm
On Saturday in Inglewood, Calif., Democratic Rep. Maxine Waters had some harsh words for the tea party. “And as far as I’m concerned — the tea party can go straight to hell.”
Well.
Lil' Barry Bailout (Revised Downward)
August 21st, 2011
3:20 pm
Suits2aTea: The Tea Party doesn’t have a platform, other than to be against whatever our president gots.
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Wrong. The tea party platform is for reduced spending and smaller government.
Small-minded people confuse a platform they don’t like with no platform at all.
I Report (-: You Whine )-: Thee Magnificent!!! mmm, mmmm, mmmmm! Just sayin...
August 21st, 2011
3:48 pm
While it’s true that Cynthia Tucker leaving the Urinal makes it a better newspaper, it’s still an awful and nasty little publication, just sayin…
RGB
August 21st, 2011
4:09 pm
“….our Blamer in Chief takes responsibility for nothing.”
That’s not exactly true.
He took credit for killing bin Laden.
“With my bare hands, wearing my black windbreaker, I faced-down Osama’s woman and struck the fatal blow for democracy. I fought off twelve of them by myself I tell you….”
Rich
August 21st, 2011
4:19 pm
Rafe,
In your responses to my posting, every single one of your assumptions is wrong. There is not point in providing you “arguments” because you seem to be a person without much ability to reason, right now. Your are fighting battles with “enemies” that don’t exist.
MarkV
August 21st, 2011
5:14 pm
RGB @4:09 pm
There are stupid, disgusting statements in these posts, and your fits among the top ones.
Rafe Hollister
August 21st, 2011
5:27 pm
Rich
I just read where Barry’s approval rating on the economy was down to 26%. My wife says, who could be those ####’s be; I said Rich and friends. Of course, she didn’t know who I was refering to, but I thought it was funny.
Rafe Hollister
August 21st, 2011
5:34 pm
RGB, that is funny right there. MarK V is just a sore loser.
MarkV
August 21st, 2011
6:26 pm
Rafe Hollister @5:34 pm: Your lack of logic is noted.
Phil's Tel-A-Gramm
August 21st, 2011
7:48 pm
Why do the whining Republicans on here worship an idiot. That seems rather odd.
Michael H. Smith
August 21st, 2011
8:20 pm
Michael H. Smith we can back off the 35% tax on corporate but in return there is no bail outs, there is nothing illegally sold that there is a market demand for.
Got no problems with getting rid of ALL subsidies/bailouts.
Government resigns itself to policing in local affairs such as murder, rape and robbery.
Got problems here, when the Federal Government refuses to enforce the Constitution. States must protect the citizens and their rights.
If illegal immigrants want to come to this country and improve product made in the bounties of this country as oppose to shipping jobs out of the countries because we can compete common sense will prevail not politics and bigotry.
Again same problems with Federal Government’s failure to uphold the Constitution and illegal immigration is exactly the same as offshore outsourcing of jobs to foreign countries for foreign workers to take away from American workers, so don’t be a damn hypocrite brucie, this has nothing to do bigotry. It is all about property rights, national sovereignty, public safety and the economic well being of U.S. citizens and legal immigrants.
We don’t enter wars on false facts and wars that do not serve our interest as a nation.
Have no problem with requiring any military action that last beyond one week any President must go before the entire Congress for an up or down vote of approval else all funding stop immediately. Since Democrats get us into the majority of wars and by way of false facts you surprise on this one. You didn’t bump your head or hit the wrong key on the pad when typing this one did you?
I find the illegal immigrant closer to a real American than some of this big business and Tea Party crowd.
And you lost the Constitution in the process that establish who and what is a real American. This is more of your ideology that you know I see as purely anti-American trash ripe for exile.
This country is bigger than big business, the rich are there no matter the names, the rich did not make America, America made the rich. If they have no respect for the country that made them the hot shot they think they are, then go and let someone else take your place that appreciates being an American. Follow this prescription and you will find the American economy strong and well.
If this country is bigger than business it isn’t bigger by much and it is then too small for the liberty and freedom of capitalism. The rich and most of the capitalist rest probably would return your offer to you and insist you go elsewhere, since you feel so much bigger.
Phil’s Tel-A-Gramm – So you have a problem with someone making a great deal of money, even if when the money they make creates jobs for others and distribute some of that money to the others through wages so others enjoy some of that wealth that you so obviously lust pathetically after begrudgingly with an immoral envy?
Linda
August 21st, 2011
9:02 pm
Michael H. Smith, You do the conservatives proud. Thank you!