Poll Position: Room for one of these four in GOP field?

Was Rick Perry the last Republican to get into the 2012 race?

No sooner had the Texas governor formally thrown his 10-gallon hat in the ring than speculation began that a couple of big names were rethinking their earlier decisions to stay out.

Most notably, former Bush political adviser Karl Rove named New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie and House Budget Chairman Paul Ryan of Wisconsin as possibilities. Former New York City Mayor Rudy Giuliani continues to leave the door open for another run. And, of course, no discussion of possible candidates is complete with mentioning Sarah Palin.

Who would be the best late addition to the GOP 2012 field?

  • None of the above (92 Votes)
  • Chris Christie (63 Votes)
  • Paul Ryan (34 Votes)
  • Sarah Palin (32 Votes)
  • Rudy Giuliani (16 Votes)

Total Voters: 237

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Of these four, Ryan seems to be the closest to making a decision. While only a member of the House of Representatives, which hasn’t had one of its own jump directly to the presidency in more than 200 years, Ryan has built a high profile as the House GOP’s chief budgetary spokesman. He would be as prepared — and capable — as any Republican to argue against President Obama’s big-government vision. As the man behind a comprehensive spending plan that included big changes to Medicare, he has also already endured a great deal of criticism.

Christie, who’s built a national following for his blunt approach to public-sector unions, has been mentioned so many times that he once quipped he couldn’t put an end to the rumors without committing suicide. The interest in a Christie candidacy is so great that one tweet reporting the governor had focus groups for a possible run — which the same reporter walked back the very same day — created a fresh wave of buzz.

I’ve mentioned Giuliani before, and I can’t imagine that he would have a big effect on the race. The speculation about Palin may not end until the GOP nominating convention next year is completely over, and she would create a political earthquake if she were to run.

So here’s this week’s Poll Position: Which of these four would make the GOP field better — or is it fine as is? Answer in the poll and in the comments thread below.

– By Kyle Wingfield

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87 comments Add your comment

Divide and Conquer

August 19th, 2011
5:16 am

I will vote for Ryan in the primary, then I will stay home next Nov.

marko

August 19th, 2011
6:01 am

Why not add Ron Paul to the list. Judging from the coverage he’s getting nobody but the voters knows he’s running. I understand Jon Huntsman believes the scientist got it right on both evolution and global climate change. Makes you wonder how he feels about magic under wear. At any rate he’s so far down in the polls embracing reality probably won’t hurt him. He’s got about as much chance of getting his message out as Ron Paul does. I understand Mitt Romney wants to amend the Constitution to define marriage as the union between a man and a woman, and a woman and another woman etc. etc.. Anyway, Let them all join in. Bring back Trump and Palin. Let’s start a new reality TV series. The real candidates of the Republican Party. Once A week they could get together and vote somebody out of the race. My guess is Ron Paul would be the first to go.

Joel Edge

August 19th, 2011
6:02 am

I don’t know if any would “make the GOP field better”, Kyle. I don’t even agree with that wording. Any of the views of the above choices already have a proponent in the race. And a libertarians in the race to boot. The choices are varied.

ByteMe

August 19th, 2011
6:09 am

and she would create a political earthquake if she were to run.

Nah. She’d create a “media earthquake” and that’s about it. “SQUIRREL!!” (If you don’t get the reference, you don’t have kids.) Her negatives are too high for her to make any difference in the race.

I’m amused that Karl Rove can’t find anyone in the current field for his PAC to control. All that money to launder and no one to receive it.

Meanwhile, I think any mildly moderate Republican will likely sit this one out. This is another “Goldwater” year. Has to happen every once in a while for each party (see Dukakis (D), 1988).

ByteMe

August 19th, 2011
6:10 am

Makes you wonder how he feels about magic under wear.

Near as I can tell, he’s hoping to find a pair, but keeping it reeeeeal quiet in case it doesn’t exist.

DeborahinAthens

August 19th, 2011
6:29 am

Read a great book, “Bush’s Brain” and you will see why Karl Rove is getting anxious. If someone that is not in his control gets into the White House he will break out in hives. The man is a monster.

Skip

August 19th, 2011
6:34 am

Why do the republicans want Obama to win?

Ayn Rant

August 19th, 2011
6:41 am

None of the above are fit for public office in a great nation.

Those listed do not acknowledge that, in a recession, reducing government spending and creating jobs are contradictory goals. All, except job-killer Christie, are silly enough to claim that Adam and Eve rode dinosaurs 6,000 years ago.

Rick Patel

August 19th, 2011
7:05 am

There is always “room” for gorgeous, gracious, gifted Gov. Sarah Palin, because she owns the Republican field. She is letting the pretenders, RINOs & wannabees play marbles until she decides whether she wants the nomination.

Lil' Barry Bailout (Revised Downward)

August 19th, 2011
7:07 am

Democrats will support a proven failure in November 2012. Americans will vote Republican.

Why do Democrats put party above country every time?

JBj

August 19th, 2011
7:18 am

ABO 2012…………………………………..(anybody but Obama)

BBQ Bob

August 19th, 2011
7:23 am

Why is it that none of the Republicans have put forth a Jobs initiative? Giving Tax cuts to the Rich doesn’t seem to work.

I suggest the guy who makes $4 Billion a year on wall st. be taxed at 35% like the rest of us(vs. 15%) and use that extra $800 million to hire back teachers and police and rebuild America. At 80K each that’s 10,000 new jobs!!!! Simple math-Let’s get America back to work

Any other good ideas on how to create jobs?

Don’t worry He’ll still have over 2.8 Billion for 1 years work of stealing from pensions and eliminating jobs through corporate mergers.

Any other thoughts on how to create jobs?

jconservative

August 19th, 2011
7:29 am

“Why do Democrats put party above country every time?”

The same reason the Republicans put party above country every time.

It is called the “art of politics”. One cannot get their “agenda” enacted into law if the other side controls the creation of law.

Look, we have been doing it this way since 1789.

GT

August 19th, 2011
7:30 am

Any candidate on the Republican side will do, all they have to do is say no to everything that comes in the door. How much of a day does that take? They don’t have to read any bills, or study any material, they could even be illiterate, which I suspect many are close to being. No wonder they have so many jumping into the race, as a party they certainly have a pool of this “talent” sitting on the bench ready to play.

Will

August 19th, 2011
7:33 am

As one who leans to the left, I do not believe President Obama can be re-elected if the economy and unemployment numbers do not improve UNLESS the republicans nominate a tea party approved revolutionary crazy.

So…….my dream candidate would be Michelle Bachmann or Sarah Palin. I would throw Herman Cain in the mix but he has about as much chance of winning the republican nomination as democrats have of re-taking the Georgia General Assembly next year.

Of Bachmann and Palin, I choose Palin. Unlike Bachmann, she has no legislative experience and she quit the only statewide job she ever had in order to make money by signing off on books written about her by someone else and making zillions from speaking fees.

Bachmann is at least true to her beliefs and was “tea party crazy ” before tea party crazy was cool.

As a republican newspaper writer, you appear to have some pull within the party. Please, for the sake of those who believe the President can only win re-election if the republicans go all “tea party crazy” on us, please, please encourage the former governor of Alaska who quit on those who elected her to jump right in now and work for that nomination!!

I figure that, even if I am wrong and she actually is elected, she would mostly likely quit this job as well before her four year term ended.

jconservative

August 19th, 2011
7:43 am

I am a Christie fan. But he says no. Tough.

Obama is in the process of doing a George H W Bush and being a one-term-er. The Republicans do need to nominate someone who can carry that 8% of the voters we call “independents”. Both sides will get their 46% of the popular vote. It is that 8% that matters.

If the election is today, what Republican will carry the 8% of independents voters? Who would carry a New Jersey? Who would carry Pennsylvania? Who would carry Ohio and Indiana? Colorado?

Who can win the electoral college? I say Christie can. I say Romney may. I say none of the rest have a prayer.

Tea Party Hobbit

August 19th, 2011
7:44 am

How about Sonny Perdue or Haley Barbour? We need a good ol’ boy in the race!

j/k

But I do like the idea of Chris Christie, he’s everything conservatives want to believe Rick Perry can do, but he has actually proven he can do it. His problem could come from looking like Mike Huckabee – the old one! But even with his size, he is not a smoker, so that levels the playing field. Can’t imagine a fat Barack Obama, but I have known plenty of people who pack on when they try to quit too…

HadEnough

August 19th, 2011
7:50 am

Christie might do it for a cheeseburger.

ByteMe

August 19th, 2011
7:51 am

Both sides will get their 46% of the popular vote. It is that 8% that matters.

Says here that Bachmann can’t get to 46% and neither can Perry.

Clinton "Skink" Tyree

August 19th, 2011
7:52 am

@Lil’ Barry — Your post is one of the most self-serving posts I’ve seen in a long while, particularly on the heels of the GOTP standing firm and being unwilling to compromise — putting the country at risk for the sole purpose of protecting big business and the super wealthy,

You guys are a real piece of work.

ByteMe

August 19th, 2011
7:57 am

You guys are a real piece of work.

Ignore him. He’s a 13-year-old who only gets to use the computer when his mom lets him. He’s good with name-calling, though, you gotta give him that.

Joe the Plutocrat

August 19th, 2011
7:59 am

As a NJ native, I am familiar with Christie. Let’s be frank; his “union-busting” rep is somewhat over played; by both the right and the left. As an attorney; like Obama, he is a negotiator, so he is more of a centrist and pragmatist. Unilke Obama; he tends to be more forceful and less interested in compromise (for the sake of compromise). I wouldn’t say he is an ideologue, but he’s not a neo-con in moderate clothing. He candidly admits there are some areas in which he agrees with Obama, and as Mitt Romney has learned, this can be tough to overcome. The problem for Christie is twofold; one, his weight/health. You don’t want this race to be about the VP choice. Two, while I don’t doubt the sincerity of his indecision; he needs to play the hand deftly (let the early leaders slug it out, but not wait to long). or the GOP can get behind a (former) governor named Gary Johnson, who is Ron Paul, with “executive” experience and a proven track record of fiscal conservatism, shrinking government, not raising taxes, and “creating” (figurative) private sector jobs, while reducting the civil servant payroll. jconservative; what’s your take on Johnson?

Michael

August 19th, 2011
8:01 am

Since one of these Republican clowns might actually win, I’d like to see somebody with an IQ above low double figures.

Chief Media Urologist

August 19th, 2011
8:06 am

I hope and pray for Sarah Palin to enter the race.

The lamestream media would have a conniption. They are so afraid of Sarah. Three years of tearing her down in the liberal rags will only strengthen our Sarah.

She has vision, she has clarity, she has solutions. She never attacks others the way they attack her. She understands America and Americans. She understands Washington and she understands foreign policy like no other. She could put together a Dream Team for hope and change that we all deserve.

God I loves me some Sarah. I’m holding up her photo right now with one hand.

Joe the Plutocrat

August 19th, 2011
8:15 am

This “what if?” exercise goes back to the difference between neo-conservative and paleo-conservative. You can all forget the “tea party” brand. Our overlords realized the tea party as a third party was a threat to the very overlord-friendly status quo known as the two party system (the oligarchs own both parties; tweedle dee and tweedle dumb. ergo, it did what Obama did to eliminate Hillary from the 2008 race, it absorbed her into his candidacy. that is to say, the neo-con GOP (not the paleo-con GOP, which is closer to the Libertarian Party) executed a “hostile takeover” of the tea party and basically re-branded the empire demagogues and “borrow and spend” Bible thumpers as “tea party” (with lower case T). Sarah Palin was the 2008 GOP VP nominee, she courted federal potk long before the ’stimulus’ was a slanderous term (ditto Bachman with the farm subsidies and Medicaid). so, these new and improved Republicans simply attach words like “10th Amendment” or “states rights” to their talking points (ironically, as they campaign to run the FEDERAL GOVERNMENT), and there you have it.

Joe the Plutocrat

August 19th, 2011
8:20 am

Chief media, you need to move forward and get you that photo of Michelle Bachman working on a corn dog at the Iowa State Fair. she is all the things Sarah is, with one skill Sarah has yet to demonstrate.

Chief Media Urologist

August 19th, 2011
8:32 am

Joe, if Sarah and Michelle ever shared a corn dog, I would stand in line and pay top dollar to view that video.

Divide and Conquer

August 19th, 2011
8:42 am

Wow, I really should have had a another cup of coffee before reading this. I confused Paul Ryan with Ron Paul. >:X

I meant to say that I will vote for Ron Paul in the primaries, and since he will not get the nomination, I will stay home and enjoy Bush II season 4.

Divide and Conquer

August 19th, 2011
8:45 am

MarkV

August 19th, 2011
8:55 am

With the Republican primary electorate, which ignores Jon Huntsman, the only candidate who has the courage to defend science against ignorance, a poll about “improving” the GOP field is an exercise in futility.

carlosgvv

August 19th, 2011
9:02 am

Chris Christie is far and away the best of the Republicans. Unfortunately, in this day and time, the best, both Republican and Democrat, don’t run.

Lil' Barry Bailout (Revised Downward)

August 19th, 2011
9:05 am

Democrats support a loser bent on destroying America to folks whose major sin is questioning the causes of global warming.

stranger in a strange land

August 19th, 2011
9:12 am

deborah in athens – my politics as far away as the east is from the west from yours – but cannot with you disagree re: Rove. What a prima dona s.o.b.

Moderate Line

August 19th, 2011
9:22 am

From a marketing perspective the race is about positioning. Currently, you have two positions in the Republican party. The Tea Party voters and the non-Tea Party voters. Romney has position himself to appeal to those Republicans who are not align or weakly aligned with the Tea Party. He also seems to dominate this group of Republicans. The rest of the Republicans seem to be fighting over the Tea Party voters.

I thought Perry would be a threat to Romney if even went after the non-Tea Party voters but it seems he running after the Tea Party voters. He seems want to position himself as a person who can appeal to both the Tea Party voters and moderates but his rhetoric seems to be turning off the non-Tea Party voters. However, it is early.

If the Tea Party candidate settle on one candidate then that would dramatically change the election. The longer the race is more than two people the better for Romney.

ByteMe

August 19th, 2011
9:26 am

I picked Paul Ryan, because I think that instead of it just being a political stunt, we really should make his “budget plan that doesn’t balance the budget for 50 years while gutting Medicare” a national discussion point instead of just a legislative conversation piece. That would at least make the race more interesting.

But, really, the idea that there aren’t two candidates for every part of the GOP tent already in the race is silly. You have the two Mormon moderates, the two crazy evangelicals, the two “big idea guys who can’t get any traction” and the two Libertarians in Republican clothing. What more could you want except to see them all in a special two-hour episode of “Wipeout”?

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Lil' Barry Bailout (Revised Downward)

August 19th, 2011
9:57 am

Ryan has a plan. Your Idiot Messiah has talking points intended to scare his parasite base.

Idiot Messiah: Loser.

Jim Crowe

August 19th, 2011
10:06 am

Obama had two things really going against him in his first term.

1. He had to follow easily the worst president in history. A guy who took a booming economy and in 8 years wrecked it while also starting two wars he had no idea how to get out of. The whole time smiling and giving tax cuts to Billionaires.
2. He is black and a decent enough percentage of Americans, especially the older angry white tea party crowd, really don’t like that at all.

Lil' Barry Bailout (Revised Downward)

August 19th, 2011
10:33 am

Obozo inherited a recovery and blew it. The eeeeeevil tea partyers oppose him because he’s incompetent.

Road Scholar

August 19th, 2011
12:04 pm

With the 4 named to possibly get in the race, and with many of the comments above, God help us!

Christie may be a good choice, in time, but I’m sure he’ll be branded as a RINO by the far right.

hazel

August 19th, 2011
12:58 pm

Cristie:

But it was a follow-up question on the fear of Sharia Law that set the governor off. “Sharia Law has nothing to do with this at all, it’s crazy!” he cried. “The guy is an American citizen!” He concluded that the “Sharia Law business is just crap… and I’m tried of dealing with the crazies,” adding with disgust and frustration that “it’s just unnecessary to be accusing this guy of things just because of his religious background.”

Nope. That disqualifies him in today’s GOP Presidential race

ragnar danneskjold

August 19th, 2011
1:03 pm

I greatly admire Paul Ryan, the best potential candidate this side of David Petraeus. His command of budget minutia, combined with his willingness to expose the flaws of Obamanomics and a rare ability to do same in layman’s language, makes him formidable. Nevertheless, I would vote for any candidate to the right of Hugo Chavez, which pointedly excludes the community organizer in chief.

emo

August 19th, 2011
1:24 pm

Let’s see,
Eddie Munster grown up (sort of)
9/11
the captain of the ship in Wall-E
Palin (needs no avatar).
I thought you all had found your hair-dyed Messiah. You’re tired of him already?

Junior Samples

August 19th, 2011
1:42 pm

I guess lil’ barry doesn’t count killing people in two countries a sin.
According to your messiah, when is killing not a sin?

Linda

August 19th, 2011
1:46 pm

We need Paul Ryan to remain as Chr. of the House Budget Com. to tackle Medicare, Medicaid & Social Security reforms.

The Democrats are flat out lying about these programs. Treasury Sec. Tim Geitner reported TWO YEARS ago:
“The federal government faces ever larger fiscal challenges in the long term. As discussed in this 2009 Financial Report of the United States Government (Financial Report), the federal government is on an unsustainable long-term fiscal path…Social Security & Medicare…Absent a change in policy…the interest costs on the growing debt together with spending on major entitlement programs could absorb 92 cents of every dollar of federal revenue in 2019. Clearly, this is not sustainable…”

Enlarge it & scroll down to page 56 of 254. Read the entire report when you have time.

http://www.gao.gov/financial/fy2009/09frusg.pdf

emo

August 19th, 2011
2:07 pm

First of all, Social Security is NOT in need of reform. It’s solvent for years, and in fact, the general revenue owes SS trillions.
Medicare/Medicaid do need to be fixed, but Democrats will never allow a “fix” that is a disguise for destroying them. If they believed you genuinely wanted to fix them, they would go along, as they agree there is a problem.
As for Ryan’s plan, I might go along with it if he added two caveats: insurance companies must accept the $6000 voucher as full payment for coverage, and would cover the same treatments as Medicare does now at the same copay. I doubt it would happen.

Proud Democrat

August 19th, 2011
2:30 pm

Paul Ryan is a joke. Good luck to the republicans in trying to convince America to dismantle Medicare and hand out vouchers all the while giving out even more tax cuts to the wealthy. Only an idiot would vote for Paul Ryan or any republican for that fact. People need to seriously think about how they will be able to afford health coverage during their retirement. Just how much do you think it will cost an individual for insurance coverage over the age of 65? The system needs to be fixed, not destroyed.

SATAN

August 19th, 2011
2:36 pm

Let all of them get into the race. The more the merrier :) . I am keeping the fires hot for all of them.

I will meet them all in HELL for being such hypocrites!!!!!

SATAN

August 19th, 2011
2:40 pm

@Lil’ Barry Bailout (Revised Downward) August 19th, 2011 9:05 am

I will keep the fires burning for you too. YOU HYPOCRITE!!!

Frigmund Scroid

August 19th, 2011
2:45 pm

I only have one question:

How damn many Republican Idiot Messiahs are you guys going to trot out?