Debt-ceiling deal: An incremental but indisputable win for GOP

The details are still rolling in, and probably will be for the better part of Monday. But based on what we know now, House Republicans drove the harder bargain on the debt-ceiling deal. (See the White House’s talking points here and Speaker John Boehner’s, via Hot Air, here — and note right off the bat a discrepancy in how they’re describing the stages in which the ceiling will rise.)

There was a lot of hand-wringing over the past couple of weeks that the federal government might default. For the most part, I think it was overblown. And that’s not just because a failure to reach a deal probably would have resulted in something more akin to a partial government shutdown than an actual default. I just don’t think there were enough members of Congress prepared to take the chance of finding out exactly how that result would have played out. (Here, a knock-on-wood acknowledgment the House and Senate rank and file still have to ratify this deal struck by their leaders.) Nor do I think President Obama was really going to veto any bill that actually came to his desk.

All that said, the bill that’s poised to arrive at the Oval Office looks a heckuva lot more like what the House GOP demanded than the clean bill Obama first requested, or the “balanced [read: tax-laden] approach” he later championed.

It doesn’t give him the entire debt-ceiling increase in one fell swoop, just an initial increase and a framework for further ones. This won’t be the last we hear of the debt ceiling during his presidency.

Each increase in the debt ceiling must be accompanied by dollar-for-dollar cuts, as Boehner insisted at the beginning of these negotiations. Yes, the 10-year time frame for the cuts looks wimpy compared to the immediacy of the new borrowing authority, but that’s all the more reason why it was silly for Democrats to object to Boehner’s requirement all along.

It doesn’t envision any tax increases. While there will be a bipartisan joint committee of Congress to recommend further measures, some of which in theory could be tax increases, it’s very unlikely to produce anything that goes beyond returning to Clinton-era tax rates because of the way those measures must be scored. And even returning to those tax rates will be the subject of continuing, intense debate between now and November 2012 (and probably afterward, too).

It does include the threat of steep defense cuts — but the cuts on that side of the ledger reportedly could include reductions to foreign aid and homeland security. So, there’s still some wiggle room for hawks even as some kind of further cuts are reinforced.

It includes a vote on a balanced budget amendment to the Constitution. That vote will probably fail in the Senate, but it’s interesting that the vote must come between Oct. 1 and Dec. 31, with the joint committee’s recommendations due by Nov. 23. If the recommendations are unpopular, could there be a push for the BBA in their place? Probably not, but the time frame here is intriguing.

Are there flaws in the agreement? Of course. I’ve already mentioned the differences in time frames between the new borrowing authority and the spending cuts. Describing the cuts as “cuts” is also somewhat inaccurate: We’re really talking about reductions from the Congressional Budget Office’s baseline, which means we’re talking about smaller future spending increases rather than actual cuts. (Another reason all the Democratic howling about painful cuts was ridiculous.) And it’s always possible that Congress will find a way to punt rather than follow through on the bulk of this deal.

In the end, however, it’s pretty clear that the compromise went like this: The president gets more borrowing authority; the House gets some further momentum toward cutting spending, which originally seemed unlikely to come from the debt-ceiling debate; and the Senate put the brakes on what the House wanted just a bit.

I won’t presume to tell liberals how to interpret this deal. My guess: They’ll just try to claim victory for preventing the wild-eyed tea partyers in the House from sending the country into financial oblivion, rather than trying to justify the deal itself.

But, assuming there are no less-satisfactory details to emerge, I think conservatives ought to accept the deal as the best that could be expected given the current distribution of power in Washington — and as motivation to keep the pressure on lawmakers going forward.

– By Kyle Wingfield

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roughrider

August 1st, 2011
5:42 pm

They keep talking about cuts to social security and medicare. We never hear anything about cutting the big oil subsidies , even though gas is at record prices. We also never hear about a cut in Congressional pay,staff or benefits. Same with White House staffers.

Lil' Barry Bailout (Revised Downward)

August 1st, 2011
6:12 pm

Junior Samples: Is [war] something Jesus would fund?
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Perhaps not, but I would.

Jezel

August 1st, 2011
7:35 pm

Lil Barry Bailout…. Greed is the driving force of capitalism. The free market system turns this negative aspect of people into a positive force. And it is not always Congress that keeps the playing field level. The executive branch can also check businesses to prevent monopolies or oligopolies.

Any industry…if left unregulated…will destroy its competitors so that it can control the market. Government’s job is to make sure that the laws of supply and demand can work. As a result we get a better product at a lower price.

MrLiberty

August 1st, 2011
9:31 pm

Jezel – Sorry, but your interpretion of how competition is destroyed doesn’t fit with reality. Businesses do not destroy their competitors. They may outcompete, etc. but in a truly free market so long as there is an opening, anybody may step in and compete and take market share. In our heavily regulated environment, most of the regulations actually serve to destroy competition. In fact the Interstate Commerce Commission (the first government regulatory agency) was actually created on behalf of the major railroads specifically for the purpose of driving their smaller competitors out of business. They were unable to in the generally free market but instead used the power and force of government to achieve those ends. The FDA serves the same purpose with regards to smaller medical device companies, keeping nutritional supplements from advertising claims that might hurt Big Pharma’s monopoly on drug distribution, etc.

The only monopolies that exist in our society are run by the government. Those that come close exist only because of government and its regulatory apparatus. The market gives us a better product at a lower price because of open and free competion. One only need look at the failing US steel industry (the beneficiary of hundreds if not thousands of bailouts, tarriffs against foreign steel, etc.) or the american auto industry (same tarriffs, etc.) or the pharmaceutical industry (with it constantly extending patent protections, FDA regulatory actions against competitors, etc.) to see that government involvement has done the exact opposite of what you claim. Meanwhile in the reasonably unregulated cell phone industry and computer industry the products have been getting better, cheaper, and more reliable. The evidence and history are definitely not on your side on this.

There are plenty of books that can educate you if you are willing to take the time to read them. Don’t just take the word of those who benefit from the regulations – government employees and big businessmen.

Golden Dawg

August 2nd, 2011
2:51 am

Everyone is talking, but NO ONE will even attempt to answer my question:

Again I ask: Why should Middle Class Americans be “THE ONLY” ones to pay for the disasterous results of 8 years of Republican Right Wing Economically Policies.

And … I am waiting for someone to say that the Wealthy use their taxes breaks to create jobs…
No could possibility believe that anymore … after 10 years of Bush -era tax breaks – where are the jobs?

8 Years of Republican economic policies lead us to: Housing speculation, short-term construction-induced jobs, ultimate financial disaster and TARP and BAILOUTs.

The Answer is (clear and logical): “EVERYONE” should contribute. If you cut benefits from the poor, then you should end tax breaks for the rich.

IF you Right Wing Tea Party Supporters believe that the deficit is so horrible for the economy, why not do EVERYTHING possible to reduce it.

PLEASE give me a logical, fact-based answer.

Golden Dawg

August 2nd, 2011
2:56 am

Mr. Liberty and anyone else who can help him…… That is a challenge… Please explain…
Why should Middle Class Americans be “THE ONLY” (THE ONLY) THE ONLY!!! ones to pay for the disasterous results of 8 years of Republican Right Wing Economically Policies.

Golden Dawg

August 2nd, 2011
6:29 am

Mr. Liberty and anyone else who can help him…… That is a challenge… Please explain…
Why should Middle Class Americans be “THE ONLY” (THE ONLY) THE ONLY!!! ones to pay for the disasterous results of 8 years of Republican Right Wing Economic Policies.

Jezel

August 2nd, 2011
7:18 am

Mr. Liberty…No doubt…too much regulation can kill competition. The idea is… create an economic environment that allows for competition and lower prices. We as individuals cannot create this market…that is why we have government…to do for us what we cannot do alone.

Generally speaking…the market place if left alone…will bring us good products at lower prices. When greedy individuals become too powerful and gain control of a corner of a market…just the opposite happens…poor service and high prices.

Who slowed down the Morgans, Mellons, Carneigies, Rockerfellers, Duponts,Firestones,Vanderbilts,and many more?

Proud Democrat

August 2nd, 2011
6:14 pm

Tea parties are for little girls with imaginary friends

LOU

August 3rd, 2011
7:20 pm

Yes, the Republican plan is like a businessman who is spending more than he is taking in. Just cut back production, fire employees, end advertising, and reduce expenses. Skilled businessmen look at options, do what it takes to maintain skilled workers, BORROW money to increase advertising in specific profitable areas, and adjust to various market conditions. End borrowing & you can end your corporate presence. Yes WAY TO GO REPUBLICANS… STOP BORROWING & CUT EVERYTHING!

LOU

August 3rd, 2011
7:31 pm

VOTE REPUBLICAN – Cut the poor, sick, and elderly programs.[they drain our economy]…. Support tax cuts for Billionaires, Oil Companies, and Wall Street Moguls….after all, they provide us with lobbying money! End Medicare, Medicaid, & Social Security for everyone but Us. Stop Government spending except in our districts. Finally, destroy the economy & blame it on the Dems so we get elected to help the upper class out of their slump. SOMEONE NEEDS TO PUT THIS ON A BILLBOARD

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