Reading about terror in Oslo, and remembering a stroller
I remember seeing many things during the fast-paced day I once spent in Oslo: a 12-centuries-old Viking ship; the freaky sculptures at Vigeland Park; the hall where the Nobel Peace Prize is awarded each year; a can of Coca-Cola priced at the equivalent of $4 at an honest-to-goodness Seven-Eleven.
But the image that keeps returning to my mind today — after hearing that reports that several people were gunned down at an island youth camp, following a bombing near the Norwegian parliament building — is of a stroller.
It was sitting alone outside the entrance to a store in downtown Oslo. And, yes, there was a baby in it. As hard as it is for most Americans to believe, the trust among Norwegians, my wife and I learned, was such that a mother could leave an infant in a stroller outside the store while she shopped.
How shattered that trust must be today.
– By Kyle Wingfield
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Songbird
July 23rd, 2011
1:37 pm
Oops, typo. Syndrome.
booger
July 23rd, 2011
2:00 pm
For all who wish to make a big deal of the fact that this killer was a Christian, you may want to take into account that probably 95% of Norwegians are Christians. Lutheran is the National religion of Norway and almost all Norwegians claim to be Christians. There are other religions present in Norway, but Norway is one of the least diverse countries racially, and culturally, in the Western World. Most who claim a religion other than Christianity are in a very small group of immigrants to the country.
fair and imbalanced
July 23rd, 2011
2:23 pm
Must be Obama’s fault.
fair and imbalanced
July 23rd, 2011
2:24 pm
The idiot Republican lament: Is there no way we can blame Muslim’s for this?
Lil' Barry Bailout
July 23rd, 2011
4:29 pm
The alleged killer is a Christian…just like Obozo.
Lil' Barry Bailout
July 23rd, 2011
4:38 pm
Speaking of Norway and the Idiot Messiah, when’s he going to do something worthy of that Nobel Peace Prize he “won”? What an embarrassment for the Norwegians.
Jim Bob
July 23rd, 2011
4:52 pm
Extreme Left Wingers and Extreme Right Wingers share a common trait: Murderous!
Lil' Barry Bailout
July 23rd, 2011
5:03 pm
Nidal Hasan murders 13 and the libtards disguise his religious beliefs, cover for him, and wonder if it isn’t George Bush’s fault. This Oslo attack happens, turns out it was committed by one of the 95% of Norwegians who happen to be Christian, and Democrats become sexually aroused.
Why do Democrats embrace evil?
creed
July 23rd, 2011
5:17 pm
the teavangicals have another hero to go along with jared loughner.
I Report (-: You Whine )-: Thee Magnificent!!! mmm, mmmm, mmmmm! Just sayin...
July 23rd, 2011
5:33 pm
Thumbed through the Christian Bible again today, didn’t see anything in there about jihad, just sayin…
I’ll keep looking.
I Report (-: You Whine )-: Thee Magnificent!!! mmm, mmmm, mmmmm! Just sayin...
July 23rd, 2011
6:22 pm
A distraught young woman called U.S. dummycrat Rep. David Wu’s Portland office this spring, accusing him of an unwanted sexual encounter, according to multiple sources.
Typical show of respect for a woman by a liberal.
Linda
July 23rd, 2011
6:26 pm
Stop!
I can’t believe what I’m reading!
Don’t you guys realize that people from all over the world read this blog? What messages are you sending from both sides as to what Atlanta is all about?
My mother, & probably yours, too, unless you are an orphan, said, “If you cannot say anything nice, don’t say it at all.”
Disagree without being disagreeable. Stop the name-calling.
Change the subject. Talk about the economy.
I Report (-: You Whine )-: Thee Magnificent!!! mmm, mmmm, mmmmm! Just sayin...
July 23rd, 2011
6:32 pm
I already know what people think about Atlanta, hahahahahaha,
Too many libs.
ew
MarkV
July 23rd, 2011
6:33 pm
Linda @ 6:26 pm
Incredible. I almost agree with something Linda has written, I would not go as far as wanting to write only something nice, but I agree with the objection to the filth in some posts.
Linda
July 23rd, 2011
7:36 pm
On Fri., 7/22, Kyle’s blog had 58 comments, several of which that were multiple comments from bloggers. At the same time, he had 319 votes for his questions/poll. This indicates that, at a minimum, Kyle has 55% more voters/readers than commenters. Kyle has had this type of poll before. It indicates that there is a huge number of people who read Kyle’s blog who do not comment.
If you comment on Kyle’s blog, you need to understand that there are many people who read Kyle’s blog, who do not comment, but who read your posts.
Be respectful & show the world the true spirit of Georgia.
Robert Littel
July 23rd, 2011
9:39 pm
The rest of the country pretty much thinks the state slogan of Georgia is “At Least We are Not Mississippi”, and the plethora of ignorant Right-wing Tea-vangelists who infect the political blogs here , pretty much makes that perceptual difference meaningless.
brad
July 23rd, 2011
9:58 pm
Linda, that train done left the station.
Michael H. Smith
July 23rd, 2011
10:04 pm
Really Kyle – I mean, let’s jas say out of curiosity sake – is there any tangible possibility that you may have indulged in what can only be seen as, if not out right called – excuse the cliche’ – a “Freudian Moment”, under the ‘unconscious’ guise of ‘communicating’ this particular blog topic?
Breeh
July 23rd, 2011
10:36 pm
Norway’s sad turn of events. America took a sad turn after the 50s. Can’t leave a child unattended for a nanosecond here. Even when attended, their chances of survival are diminished with all the violence that surrounds them.
Drive-by shootings are a daily occurrence.
Lil' Barry Bailout
July 23rd, 2011
10:54 pm
Not to mention the violence that is visited on them in the womb–one million murdered annually in the US via abortion.
Lil' Barry Bailout
July 24th, 2011
7:52 am
“The rest of the country pretty much thinks blah blah blah…”
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And yet they continue moving here from their high-tax, oppressively-governed, economically failed blue states.
Road Scholar
July 24th, 2011
8:22 am
I Report: “I have more intelligence in my pinkie than the entire liberal population of the United States has, put together.”
Oh, really! It is not evident in your posts!
Lil' Barry Bailout
July 24th, 2011
8:27 am
Poll: Americans Support GOP Deficit Plan
By PETER ROFF
Posted: July 21, 2011
A CNN poll released Thursday shows that nearly two thirds of the American people support the “Cut, Cap, Balance” plan that passed the House of Representatives.
Road Scholar
July 24th, 2011
8:34 am
Linda: ” What messages are you sending from both sides as to what Atlanta is all about?”
That education in Georgia is not happening! Many would rather beat their chests and hurl insults rather than use their minds and discuss issues calmly.
brad
July 24th, 2011
9:07 am
From the same poll, Itty Bitty Barry:
http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2011/07/21/cnnorc-poll-july-18-21-debt-ceiling/
Question # 14
64% of the public support a combination of tax increases and spending cuts. 34% support only spending cuts.
Lil' Barry Bailout
July 24th, 2011
9:19 am
Americans will be happy to know that if we implement the cap that they support, there will be no need for your Idiot Messiah’s economy-wrecking tax increases.
independent thinker
July 24th, 2011
9:30 am
The right wing gave a knee jerk reaction that this was a Muslim terrorist attack. Then we find out the attacker is a blue eyed blond haired Norwegian who hates Muslims and feels his country is too sympathetic to Muslims Neo Nazis are becoming more open and outspoken with rallies in Germany, Russia and elsewhere.. Back home Herman Cain appeals to the lowest common denominator in our fears and rails against Muslim and alleges the Constitution allows communities to ban Mosques. Anybody wander how Hitler came to power during hard economic times??????
Michael H. Smith
July 24th, 2011
9:32 am
@- booger
July 23rd, 2011
2:00 pm
It is probably a waste of time, certainly a waste to defend a religion that needs no defense but for the sake of stating accurate facts that most who would use this kind of incident to attack Christianity are either 1) ignorant of – willingly or otherwise 2) have an agenda to propagandize that they are willing to lie for in efforts to promote it.
A Christian by definition is a Christ-like person, whose words and actions are exactly those of Christ. This person in Norway doesn’t appear Christ-like now do they?
Then this attacker wasn’t actually a “Christian”: Misguided follower of the Christian faith perhaps but as to being a Christian… Not even a remote chance.
My Migraine
July 24th, 2011
9:37 am
Independent brings up an interesting point. If Germany had won WW2, (and they should have won because they sank all our battleships, man), but if Germany had won, then today, there would probably be a uniting of Muslim and Nazi ideology. I mean, look how closely the word “Allah” sounds like “Der Fuerher”, man. (Change only two letters and they’re spelled identically too).
Imagine what such a an axis would do to the dirty Chinks and the dirty Nips, and the stinking Ruskies. We could simply sit back, and watch them nuke each other and then we’d take over der verlde.
Michael H. Smith
July 24th, 2011
9:44 am
Nazis?
Those on the left and particularly the lame-stream-media writers that propagate the NAZIS as right-wing need to do their homework: 1) NAZI are Socialist, which means they are left-wing 2) The NAZIS barrowed heavily from the American PROGRESSIVES a.k.a. Woodrow Wilson socialists – again leftwingers!
On the subject of mass murderers as a matter of history, well there again, the left holds world title and acclaim considering the infamous august members of the following brief list:
Hitler, Linen, Stalin and Mao etc.
Homily
July 24th, 2011
10:00 am
Smith brings up an interesting point. What is a Christian? Is it bumper sticker that reads, “WWJD”?
Or is it someone who accepts that the crucifixion itself was man’s destiny of The Self. Ourselves’ greatest moment. Total victory over God and the Roman empire was saved from the Jew.
A Christian is some who ascertains that Roman gods continue to rule. Money. Life. Power. Sex. The Roman empire is alive and well today, merely keeping up with tech. A divine geek squad.
A Christian is someone who knows the righteousness of The Self. A Christian’s duty is to define evil in others and then crush them. And God applauds the effort, of course.
There exists no Christ-like emulation in history. There exists only Christians. Look how many perpetuate themselves at the expense of less -worthy others. The spectral opposite of the parables.
There’s going to be a reckoning of selves. So Go and Save yourselves: Give your possessions to the poor, go back to the crucifixion, and start over.
Only then can you be saved from the shared eternal destiny of The Christianhood of Selves.
Michael H. Smith
July 24th, 2011
10:06 am
@- Homily
July 24th, 2011
10:00 am
The definition of a Christian appears in the Book of Acts if you care to read it rather than revise it to met the objectives of your agenda.
Lil' Barry Bailout
July 24th, 2011
10:24 am
independent thinker: Anybody wander how Hitler came to power during hard economic times??????
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By whipping up fear and hatred against those who were more successful, same as your Idiot Messiah.
Michael H. Smith
July 24th, 2011
10:29 am
USA TODAY
By Cathy Lynn Grossman,
So, I have a bundle of questions now.
Who here knows exactly what’s meant by Norwegian Christian fundamentalist? Should such terms be tossed about without definition? Is he a terrorist because he’s Christian or a Christian who happens to be a terrorist or, if he’s a terrorist, can he really be a Christian at all? And isn’t that exactly the same points Muslims make about terrorists who claim to be Islamic?
NOTE: Be civil. The rule at Faith & Reason is that all views, respectfully presented, are welcome. (This line you’re sure to like Kyle.)
http://content.usatoday.com/communities/Religion/post/2011/07/norway-christian-killings-muslim-/1
Lil' Barry Bailout
July 24th, 2011
10:34 am
When domestic terrorist Ted Kaczynski had his radical left wing manifesto published, Democrats thought it was brilliant and insisted that we all study it to see where we went wrong.
Why do Democrats hate America?
Dirty Dawg
July 24th, 2011
11:07 am
Just remember, if this guy lived in the U.S., and assuming he were a citizen, he’d be voting Republican.
Lil' Barry Bailout
July 24th, 2011
11:11 am
Who did domestic terrorists Bill Ayers and Bernardine Dohrn vote for? Their freind and colleague, and your Idiot Messiah, Obozo.
Lil' Barry Bailout
July 24th, 2011
11:13 am
Why did Bill Ayers vote for Obozo?
Because he thought he was da bomb.
ByteMe
July 24th, 2011
11:44 am
A manifesto he published online — which police are poring over and said was posted the day of the attack — ranted against Muslim immigration to Europe and vowed revenge on “indigenous Europeans,” whom he accused of betraying their heritage. It added that they would be punished for their “treasonous acts.”
Whiner is now a welcher AND an idiot.
Lil' Barry Bailout
July 24th, 2011
12:17 pm
Lil’ Barry Bailout
July 24th, 2011
11:30 am
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Just another fake LBB who can’t compete with the original.
Lil' Barry Bailout
July 24th, 2011
12:19 pm
Libtards are distraught over the lack of religious references in the Norway killer’s 1500-page manifesto.
saywhat?
July 24th, 2011
12:32 pm
Michael H. Smith @9:44 am wrote
“Nazis?
Those on the left and particularly the lame-stream-media writers that propagate the NAZIS as right-wing need to do their homework: 1) NAZI are Socialist, which means they are left-wing 2) The NAZIS barrowed heavily from the American PROGRESSIVES a.k.a. Woodrow Wilson socialists – again leftwingers! ”
This ridiculous meme has been espoused by only one author, Doughy Pantload himself,
Jonah Goldberg, in his laughable book “Liberal Fascism”. It has been completely panned by serious historians (and anybody who actually knows what fascism is). It was a sorry partisan attempt at distancing the American right wing from its increasing association with traditionally fascist policies such as ultra-nationalism, corporatism, scapegoating of minorites, increased central power (i.e. Bush’s attempt to expand the power of the Presidency), etc. The book and its moronic premise now serves to supply ammunition (even though they would be shooting blanks) to the intellectually barren on the right.
That you, Michael Smith, would repeat the nonsense that drips from the Doughy Pantload’s trouser cuffs onto his shoes, speaks volumes about your poor ability to discern fact from rightwing partisan fiction. You are the only one who needs to do any homework.
independent thinker
July 24th, 2011
3:22 pm
Herman Cain and Michelle Bachmann both appeal to the hate crowd based on scripts right out of Mein Kampf . Little Barry Bailout cannot handle that fact. Now if Obama could be proven to believe and practice the Jeremiah Wright venom we would have comparable bigots and potential despots.
Lil' Barry Bailout
July 24th, 2011
5:59 pm
Obozo’s friends wipe their feet on the US flag and bomb Americans.
http://mypetjawa.mu.nu/archives/192591.php
Michael H. Smith
July 24th, 2011
6:57 pm
@- saywhat?
July 24th, 2011
12:32 pm
Very much to the contrary on everything YOU under a fictitious name have said.
To the point. What does the acronym NAZI stand for, “intellectually barren say what one”?
Nazi Party
The National Socialist German Workers’ Party (German: About this sound Nationalsozialistische Deutsche Arbeiterpartei (help·info), abbreviated NSDAP), commonly known in English as the Nazi Party, was a political party in Germany between 1919 and 1945.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nazi_Party
Core to the American PROGRESSIVES of Woodrow Wilson era was eugenics. Did Hitler and the NAZIS practice eugenics? Only a Holocaust denier would say they didn’t.
Now fictitious YOU may be fixated by this who is it, Doughy Pantload
Jonah Goldberg as some kind of sole source for my information. Unfortunately for YOU and YOUR ignorance, there is an undeniable a butt-load of history “ALONE” that defies the absolute hell out of everything fictitious say what YOU have said in attempts to defend YOUR deplorable left-wing socialism and those leftwinger NAZIS, The National Socialist German Workers’ Party.
jt
July 24th, 2011
7:02 pm
Regardless, Norwegeians will never stand for a Federal TSA thug to feel their children up for their “safety”.
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Only American sheeple put up with that.
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That only happens in the land of the free.
Michael H. Smith
July 24th, 2011
7:06 pm
independent thinker
July 24th, 2011
3:22 pm
Remind me one more time why obumer had to hold a so-called “Beer Summit” ?
Linda
July 24th, 2011
7:12 pm
Apparently, a few people stayed up late last night & slept thru Sunday School this morning.
Michael H. Smith
July 24th, 2011
7:40 pm
Anyone but say what knows actual fascism was a definite sorry partisan attempt and was accomplished in some areas BY PROGRESSIVE SOCIALIST WOODROW WILSON who increased association with traditionally fascist policies such as ultra-nationalism, anti- market based capitalism, scapegoating of minorities and increased central power. There after FDR and LBJ made there fascist socialist contributions.
Who segregated the U.S. Military?
Who kept blacks from employment in civil service jobs?
Who brought on swiping central power and government controls through regulations?
Why do we even have a debt ceiling to debate today?!
FASCIST SOCIALIST a.k.a. PROGRESSIVE WOODROW WILSON “YOUR DEMOCRAT”
Michael H. Smith
July 24th, 2011
8:36 pm
Productive reading for minds intellectually superior to that of “say what?”
Leftists, Progressives and Socialists
by Walter E. Williams
While America’s leftists, socialists and communists condemn Hitler, they give the world’s most horrible murderers a pass. First, they make a false distinction between fascism, communism and socialism but more importantly, they sympathize with the socioeconomic goals of communism and socialism. The primary goal of communism and socialism is government ownership or control over the means of production. In the U.S., only a few people call for outright government ownership of the means of production. They might have learned that government ownership would mess things up. Instead, they’ve increasingly called for quasi-ownership through various forms of government regulation, oversight, taxation and subsidies. After all, if someone has the power to tell you how you may use your property, it’s tantamount to his owing it.
I believe most Americans find the ideals and principles of socialism, communism and progressivism repugnant, but by our sanctioning greater government centralization and its control over our lives, we become their dupes or, as Lenin said, “useful idiots.”
http://www.lewrockwell.com/williams-w/w-williams55.1.html