Wha-wha-what? John Lennon, Reagan Democrat?

Before there was David Mamet, left-wing artiste-turned-conservative, there was…John Lennon?!?

From the Toronto Sun:

John Lennon felt a little embarrassed by his former radicalism, according to his last personal assistant.

Fred Seaman worked alongside the music legend from 1979 to Lennon’s death at the end of 1980 and he reveals the former Beatle was a Ronald Reagan fan who enjoyed arguing with left-wing radicals who reminded him of his former self.

In new documentary Beatles Stories, Seaman tells filmmaker Seth Swirsky Lennon wasn’t the peace-loving militant fans thought he was while he was his assistant.

He says, “John, basically, made it very clear that if he were an American he would vote for Reagan because he was really sour on (Democrat) Jimmy Carter….

“He was a very different person back in 1979 and 80 than he’d been when he wrote Imagine. By 1979 he looked back on that guy and was embarrassed by that guy’s naivete.”

Soon, I imagine, we’ll hear from all manner of former Beatles fans and hangers-on, and maybe former Beatles themselves, about how this story is hogwash.

Or maybe the band members weren’t kidding when they recorded this

– By Kyle Wingfield

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51 comments Add your comment

saywhat?

June 29th, 2011
5:11 pm

first again!

saywhat?

June 29th, 2011
5:13 pm

It only makes sense that news of Lennon liking Reagan would come out now. After all, Reagan wouldn’t qualify as a “conservative” judged by today’s radicalized Republican base.

that's goofy

June 29th, 2011
5:24 pm

I have a friend that was an assistant in the Reagan White House. He says the former President loved Run-DMC and would routinely break dance to their songs while wearing a lime green Adidas track suit.

Soon, I’m sure, I’ll hear from all manner of former Reagan fans, hangers-on, TP’ers and maybe even a few staff members, about how this post is hogwash.

Bart Abel

June 29th, 2011
5:30 pm

I wonder if Lennon would have felt about the that his man Reagan raised taxes several times, expanded the Earned Income Tax Credit for the working poor, presented proposed budgets with higher overall spending than those ultimately passed by the Democratic-led congresses, and grew deficits to record levels. I wonder how Lennon would have felt about Reagan saying that he wanted to find a way to eliminate nuclear weapons.

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Bart Abel

June 29th, 2011
5:33 pm

If Reagan wanted to run for office today, he’d be run out of the Republican Party for being a “Republican in Name Only”.

GW

June 29th, 2011
6:21 pm

John Lennon! Isn’t he the guy that said that the Beatles were more famous than Jesus or something like that. I never would have taken him for a Reagan Republican though given how much Reagan raised taxes. That must have put quite a dent in their profits.

I Report (-: You Whine )-: Thee Magnificent!!! mmm, mmmm, mmmmm! Just sayin...

June 29th, 2011
6:47 pm

The highest marginal tax rate when Reagan took office- 70%.

The highest marginal tax rate when Reagan left office- 28%.

Anyone can look it up, it’s like a…..fact.

But since liberals don’t have anything else besides lies…..

I Report (-: You Whine )-: Thee Magnificent!!! mmm, mmmm, mmmmm! Just sayin...

June 29th, 2011
6:50 pm

Ronald Reagan versus dhimmi karter, hmmmmmmm.

So now at least we know Lennon wasn’t……….stupid.

Lil' Barry Bailout

June 29th, 2011
7:17 pm

“If Reagan wanted to run for office today, he’d be run out of the Republican Party for being a “Republican in Name Only”.”
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Dumbest Post of the Day.

Jean

June 29th, 2011
7:22 pm

Kyle, what a shame to waste your valuable platform reporting reporting a silly and unverifiable rumor.

GW

June 29th, 2011
7:36 pm

Two bills passed in 1982 and 1984 together “constituted the biggest tax increase ever enacted during peacetime,” Thorndike said.

The bills didn’t raise more revenue by hiking individual income tax rates though. Instead they did it largely through making it tougher to evade taxes, and through “base broadening” — that is, reducing various federal tax breaks and closing tax loopholes.

So Reagan was able to brag about lowering the tax rate for the wealthiest while raising taxes to pay for it.

Lil' Barry Bailout

June 29th, 2011
7:45 pm

Great idea, GW…we can broaden the base like your hero Ronald Reagan by having the 50% of folks who don’t currently pay federal income tax pay, say, 15%.

Time to get out of the wagon and help the rest of us pull, parasites.

GW

June 29th, 2011
7:56 pm

The Republicans introduced the 10% income tax bracket in 2001. Before that the lowest bracket was 15%.

Lil' Barry Bailout

June 29th, 2011
7:59 pm

No problem, we can fix that. 15% minimum rate on everybody. No deductions.

Pay your fair share, parasites.

td

June 29th, 2011
8:12 pm

If we include FS, TANF, Medicaid, Earned income tax credit, Section 8, Low income energy assistance, SSI and Child support as taxable income then we would put these people in the correct income brackets and they all would pay taxes.

GW

June 29th, 2011
8:23 pm

Those parasite hedge fund managers that take advantage of the carried interest loophole should definitely pay their fair share instead of getting away with 15%. The parasites.

Lil' Barry Bailout

June 29th, 2011
8:29 pm

You mean the hedge fund managers who Obozo and his acolytes used to brag were donating more to his campaign that to McCain’s?

Obozo had two years with a Democrat congress and could have passed a tax increase on hedge fund managers. If he wanted to.

Oopsies!

GW

June 29th, 2011
8:36 pm

I don’t know anything about this “Obozo” you dream about but I take it from your overall comment that you would be good with eliminating that carried interest loophole. So good to hear it.

td

June 29th, 2011
8:55 pm

Let us start with George Sorros headge fund.

GW

June 29th, 2011
8:23 pm

15% is better then the 0% the parasites pay.

td

June 29th, 2011
9:38 pm

I guess Lennon read Churchhill and believed it:

Show me a young Conservative and I’ll show you someone with no heart. Show me an old Liberal and I’ll show you someone with no brains.

Truthpaste

June 29th, 2011
9:43 pm

Bets are most Limo Liberals (entertainers, actors, musicians) are closet Republicans. They just pretend to be left wingers to keep them viable to their worshipping public. They have plenty of $$$ to talk out both sides of their mouths.

The Jolie-Pitts can afford to collect children from all over the World and also have more than enough left over for others to raise them as well. Keeps the liberal sheeple minds off the fact they are highly paid no talent slimballs.

Being a liberal in the public eye brings in the $$$$$$$$$!

Jefferson

June 29th, 2011
9:54 pm

I lost it for President Reagan in 1966, but I am man enough to not call him names and I address by his title of president most of the time.

GW

June 29th, 2011
10:08 pm

Let us start with George Sorros headge fund.

Let’s start with all of them.

Lil' Barry Bailout

June 29th, 2011
10:27 pm

If you have a problem with folks not being taxed enough, vote for people who love raising taxes so much, they become sexually aroused at the mere thought. They’re called Democrats.

Reagan RINO

June 29th, 2011
10:40 pm

Remember, Kyle, Reagan raised taxes 11…yes, that’s 11 times in his Royal Reign. Why the Rs lionize him today amazes me. They wouldn’t even let him run for VP today. He was a liberal by the far right leanings of the Rs today. Remember, again, Kyle, Reagan raised taxes 11 times. 11 times.

brad

June 29th, 2011
10:44 pm

Itty-Bitty, you’re a funny guy.

brad

June 29th, 2011
10:46 pm

Once again, Kyle, great use of that journalism degree.

that's goofy

June 29th, 2011
10:53 pm

How in the wide world of sports did this post inspire any serious thought – let alone debate on Presidents and taxes. I’d bet if Kyle wrote the sun will rise in the east – it would take 4 comments before the debate was about global warming and prayer in school.

yes, kyle – I am jealous. You get paid to do this.

Lil' Barry Bailout

June 29th, 2011
10:59 pm

Reagan RINO: Why the Rs lionize him today amazes me.
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Well, for one thing, President Reagan loved America and its founding principles. Can’t say that about your Idiot Messiah.

Alice

June 29th, 2011
11:11 pm

What in the world is a peace-loving militant? I have often seen a cat without a grin but I’ve never heard of a peace-living militant. As for the rest of that lovely bit of fiction, I’ll believe it when Yoko says so.

Thrash

June 29th, 2011
11:21 pm

John Lennon seemed open to everything and all sorts of thought. I think he’d be drawn to that sort of charisma that Reagan fumed.

Will Jones - Atlanta Jeffersonian Exegesis

June 30th, 2011
1:37 am

If what the author says is true – that with wealth Lennon betrayed his soul – it may be the reason/karma G-d permitted Satan’s agent to “recycle” him.

Bill

June 30th, 2011
7:34 am

Mitch McConnell announced yesterday that the could not support the elimination of subsidies for ethanol because it amounts to a tax increase. Only in the minds of radical republicans can a reduction in corporate welfare be construed as a tax increase.

Bill

June 30th, 2011
7:39 am

Barry,

Samuel Johnson said “Patriotism is the last refuge of a scoundrel.” I mention that, not to imply that Reagan was a scoundrel, I believe his patriotism was genuine. The scoundrels are those that wave the flag and use patriotism to vilify those with whom they disagree.

President Obama is a patriot and loves his country just as Ronald Reagan did. In fact, there are some similarities in the humble beginnings of both of these men.

mike

June 30th, 2011
7:57 am

Nice to bring up a dead man’s supposedly politics. How about a qoute from his wife. Is this a fact like Palin’s version of the guy ringing the bell or like John Wayne being dorn in Waterloo.

GT

June 30th, 2011
8:52 am

Tricky Dick got Carter elected. One more gift from the man that kept on giving. Any if that was not enough Kennedy with all his baggage decide to get in the race. Carter literally won by default. No one voted for Carter they voted against these characters. Reagan was like the first flower in spring. After the darkest period of American politics in most of our lifetimes. Reagan was also a moderate. He was no great fan of Bush Sr. He gave him very little responsibity in his term as VP. Barbara said the Reagan even snubbed the Bushs. Why conservative nuts what to think they are like Reagan is beyond me and many in Reagan’s camp.

interested observer

June 30th, 2011
9:19 am

What John Lennon thought about Ronald Reagan — or any other politician — is totally irrelevant.

BTW, the current GOP would consider Reagan, if he were alive, too liberal.

GT

June 30th, 2011
9:23 am

Well said, interested observer .

redneckbluedog

June 30th, 2011
9:32 am

They did have something in common, they were both shot….plus I’m sure that Mr. Lennon would agree with the Reagan tax increases….

Intown

June 30th, 2011
9:32 am

I heard Reagan was really a pot smoking left wing radical that wore Che Guevera t-shirts.

redneckbluedog

June 30th, 2011
9:41 am

Here’s the truth…Corporate jets, oil and gas subsidies, and tax loopholes for millionares and billionares cost the US waaaay more than the EIC, Section 8, TANF, and family services…and what kind of squidbilly wants to end social security, family services, medicare and medicaid…Those are for the children, the elderly, and the sick…..Definitely not a Christian..!!!! It’s that kind of selfishness that has this country in the shape that it’s in…!!!!!

The Snark

June 30th, 2011
9:48 am

Is this supposed to be some sort of blessing for Reagan? I loved John Lennon and his music, but the truth was that from 1968 until his death, he was a very angry, confused, and often depressed man with a serious drug problem. He is not someone whose political views should be treated with respect — as he himself suggested in “Revolution.”

Will Jones - Atlanta Jeffersonian Exegesis

June 30th, 2011
10:30 am

Reagan was a front for organized crime’s control of the movie industry, then for fascist plutocracy’s takeover after having assassinated the Kennedys and Dr. King.

Read “Dark Victory: Ronald Reagan, MCA, and the Mob,” by Dan Moldea.

He was also nothing but a Sunshine Patriot. As a member of the Army National Guard, his unit – which he joined to be able to play polo – was called up after Pearl Harbor. Having been a caddy for the owner of Walgreen’s Drugs, a political call was made and he was able to jump ship at SF and spend the war in Hollywood instead. Compare him to other actual men who were already stars in Hollywood who put their careers on hold to go and defend Our Country with the millions of other true patriots doing their duty to G-d and Country.

It’s no wonder his line is cut off. His adopted son, Michael, he sent off to away camp at the age of three…THREE…to be homosexually assaulted.

Reagan was scum…and it’s National Airport.

The Snark

June 30th, 2011
11:08 am

Well, it looks like we may have another angry, confused man with a drug problem.

The Snark

June 30th, 2011
11:11 am

PS Reagan was deemed unfit for combat duty due to his poor eyesight.

Will Jones - Atlanta Jeffersonian Exegesis

June 30th, 2011
11:16 am

“The Snark” must be projecting. Provide your bogus cite or be known as a perfect liar.

Will Jones - Atlanta Jeffersonian Exegesis

June 30th, 2011
11:18 am

P.S. My father wore glasses from Pearl Harbor to Guadalcanal to the Landing at Leyte. Reagan was already in a evaded shipping out through the intervention of a rich man for whom he caddied. Read “Dark Victory,” draft-dodger.

Will Jones - Atlanta Jeffersonian Exegesis

June 30th, 2011
11:19 am

Reagan was already in “the service.”

The Snark

June 30th, 2011
1:34 pm

Spend 45 seconds on Wikipedia, Will. And take your meds.

JRHD

July 1st, 2011
8:08 pm

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