With repayments like Chrysler’s, who needs debts?

All hail Chrysler, which said Tuesday that it had repaid $7.6 billion in loans from the U.S. and Canadian governments! It’s all the money that taxpayers loaned the company!

Um, as long as you don’t count the rest of the money. Where have we heard this before? Oh, that’s right.

Using Government Loan B to repay most of Government Loan A, while rendering the rest of Government Loan A to the memory hole, worked so brilliantly for GM that Chrysler apparently decided it would try the trick as well. And, judging by the fawning reaction from liberals who decry corporate handouts unless they make President Obama look good, the trick worked brilliantly again.

But in case you’re interested in what’s really going on here, Edward Niedermeyer at The Truth About Cars explains:

It was ultimately up to Ron Bloom, the White House’s defacto “car czar” to admit that Chrysler’s “payback” amounted to only 85% of the “total money loaned to Chrysler.” That math works out to the conclusion that Chrysler failed to pay back about $2b … which is as technically true as Marchionne’s “every penny that had been loaned less than two years ago” line. It does, however, fail to account (again) for the $1.9b Debtor-in-Posession “loan” which financed Chrysler during bankruptcy and was conveniently left to die with the remains of “Old Chrysler.” Nor does it account for the $1.5b loaned to Chrysler’s suppliers to keep them afloat amidst the bailout chaos. Meanwhile, the $1.9b Chrysler that Bloom admits Chrysler still “owes” the taxpayers is covered by a 6.6% stake in Chrysler’s equity, which isn’t likely to cover that loss when Chrysler eventually launches an IPO … and the DIP loan and supplier aid are irrevocably lost. …

Add up the outstanding “bridge loan” loss of $1.9b, the “Old Chrysler” DIP loan loss of $1.9b and the supplier aid loss of $1.5b, and the taxpayer’s loss on Chrysler looks to be closer to $5.3b. Add $3.4b of that into the $12.5b bailout bill that Treasury acknowledges, and the total return on the Chrysler bailout appears to be more like 66%, not 85%. Which is pretty damn far from “every penny” no matter how you cut it. (links original)

And on top of all that, Niedermeyer reported more than a month ago that $3.5 billion of the money that was repaid was available to Chrysler and its controlling stakeholder, Fiat, because of a new $3.5 billion loan from the Department of Energy.

Now, technically the DOE loan program is supposed to be used for specific, qualifying retooling projects, so Fiat can’t literally take the DOE money and use it to pay back the government loans. But freeing up $3.5b in capital that would otherwise be spent on retooling with low-cost loans will make it infinitely easier for Chrysler to secure the $3.5b in debt refinancing it needs. And, in light of the GAO’s pointed criticisms of the DOE loan program’s fairness and transparency, it’s hard to overlook the coincidental nature of Chrysler’s need for $3.5b and the government’s allocation of extra funds to apparently guarantee a low cost loan to Chrysler for precisely the same amount. After all, we’ve seen this movie before …

Yes, we have. And, predictably enough, the same people who liked it last time like it this time — and the people who didn’t, don’t.

– By Kyle Wingfield

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Linda

May 25th, 2011
4:52 pm

Cobbian@4:24, As far as the oil & gas companies, you might want to check & see if those were subsidies or tax deductions that the fed. govt. gives to companies all over the country in some form or fashion, where those profits were made (US vs. overseas), how much they profit per gallon vs. the fed. & state govts. & how much they pay PER DAY to the fed. govt. in royalties & see if they don’t pay MORE in fed. taxes than they actually make in profits in the US.
I could not help but notice that the uproar over the $4 B per year in tax deductions to the oil & gas companies is exactly the same amount the fed. govt. is paying per DAY in interest on the debt. Since we have reached our debt limit & since the fed. govt. is about to shut down, do you think that resolving the budget crisis might have been more important than holding a show? Do you think that raising costs on oil companies (that will be passed on the consumer) is a good idea at this moment?
Last but now least, why in !@#$ is the federal govt. subsidizing, reducing taxes on, bailing out or otherwise supporting any corporation & donating to every single country in the world except for 3?

buck@gon

May 25th, 2011
5:10 pm

ByteMe,

Something is amiss here. Chrysler added 4300 last year? Yes, I read the same pages you do.

What is also true is that Chrysler ended 2009 with 38000 employees. I can account for the 4300 based on news reports that are easy to find.

What I can’t account for are the almost 10,000 jobs necessary to get to 52,000 + stated in the article. It seems to me that given the Obama’s terrible record on the economy, and the media’s strong desire to mitigate this truth, that the media would rush to set the record straight. You may call it truthiness in derision…. Given the media’s slavish devotion to whatever Obama and Geithner (and the car companies patronized by them) tell us is true, I find a bit of skepticism is healthy in dealing with what you call FACTS.

Every day I point out facts, and I am happy for you to engage me in this or any other matter. So, I now have a question: when were the 10,000 jobs added, or are we fudging the numbers in an effort to make politician-owners of Chrysler and Chrysler (trying to sell itself to FIAT) look good?

If you can not answer I don’t blame you. These matters are puzzling even to the likes of Mr. Bookman. Ms. Tucker, I’m sure, would be baffled beyond her ability to function.

buck@gon

May 25th, 2011
5:17 pm

ByteMe,

Also, if you want to use Kyle’s number of $5.3 billion as genuine and your 4300 jobs added number as accurate too, then we have the per job cost of about $1.2 something million per auto worker’s job over this time span.

I don’t know about you, but I find that outrageous and unacceptable, especially for money that will not ever be paid back (not that Congress would pay it back to taxpayers!).

Linda

May 25th, 2011
5:19 pm

buck@gon@5:10, You ignored my question to you @3:11.

Independent thinker

May 25th, 2011
5:56 pm

I would like to see Kyle’s spin on why Goldman Sachs got Tarp funds so that it could further manipulate the commodities and mortgage markets?

Linda

May 25th, 2011
6:09 pm

Independent thinker@5:56, You might want to read this, every page of it.

http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/the-great-american-bubble-machine-20100405?page=2

There’s much, much more.

MarkV

May 25th, 2011
6:10 pm

Kyle,
Bart is absolutely right in what he wrote; all you can offer is theories of what MIGHT have happened IF things had been done differently. What we know is that jobs were saved and important American companies are again prosperous.

A very sad state of affairs...

May 25th, 2011
6:56 pm

Unfortunately we do not have a time machine to see what the effect would have been on the economy if Obama did not bailout the auto-industries..It’s very easy to use all sorts of fanciful words like “structured”, “leaner” et al..What would have happened if the bankruptcy did not go as planned i.e structured et al and ?? I shudder to think…

Quite frankly this TARP bailout was started by the GWB administration..where was your outrage then? In my opinion, Obama was stuck between the devil and the proverbial deep blue sea…either way he was screwed..he only took the path that yielded the least carnage because I truly feared for the US economy that would have had to go through the bankruptcy of the 3 Big companies…

Lastly, some commenters on this blog lead me to believe that they would rather see the 3 big automakers fail(even after being bailed out)along with everyone who depends on them..from the suppliers to the little kid whose two parents both work as hourly machinists for GM so their political egos can be massaged..and its truly sad!

Lil' Barry Bailout

May 26th, 2011
6:39 am

some commenters on this blog lead me to believe that they would rather see the 3 big automakers fail
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Wrong. Just the ones who can’t cut it without billions in taxpayer handouts. And one of the big 3 didn’t require a bailout. Should I lower myself to purchasing an American brand in the future, it will be a Ford.

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