Gingrich gets raves, Cain roars from GOP convention crowd (2nd update)

2ND UPDATE at 4:45 p.m.:

Sue Everhart was re-elected chair of the Georgia GOP on the second ballot, 946 to 755 over Tricia Pridemore.

“Now is the time for us to come together, set aside the petty talk, set aside the petty differences, and work hard to further our conservative cause across Georgia and across these United States of America,” Pridemore said moments after the vote totals were announced.

UPDATE at 4 p.m.:

In the Georgia GOP chairman’s race, incumbent Sue Everhart got 48 percent of the vote on the first ballot, precipitating a second ballot. It’s down to Everhart and Tricia Pridemore, Gov. Nathan Deal’s favored candidate, who got 36 percent. The lowest vote-getting candidate, Carter Kessler, will be dropped from the ballot and third-place Shawn Hanley has decided to drop out.

ORIGINAL POST:

Macon – The election for chair of the Georgia GOP is minutes away from beginning. Incumbent Sue Everhart of Cobb County has two challengers: former Fulton County GOP Chairman Shawn Hanley, and Marietta’s Tricia Pridemore, who has the support of Gov. Nathan Deal. This bit of intramural politics has broader intrigue because of the divisiveness of the race: When Deal spoke up in Pridemore’s favor at the end of an otherwise well-received speech, he was booed roundly by the delegates on the floor.

Aside from that election, the focus of the convention has been on the two Georgia-based candidates for the 2012 Republican presidential nomination, Newt Gingrich and Herman Cain. Gingrich, who made his candidacy official this past week, spoke Friday night. Saturday morning the crowd heard from Cain, who all but confirmed that he will officially enter the race with an announcement next weekend. (Said Cain: “I’m going to be at Centennial Olympic Park with 10,000 of my closest supporters at high noon. Do you think I’m going to say I’m not running?”)

Gingrich spoke to a dinner crowd that warmed up during the course of his message. He spoke of American exceptionalism and outlined a four-point tax plan: zero capital gains taxes, a corporate income tax rate matching Ireland’s 12.5 percent rate, 100 percent business expensing of new equipment purchases within a year, and a permanent end to the estate tax. He said Barack Obama had been “the most successful food-stamp president in history,” with more people than ever dependent on that government program, and that he wanted to be “the most successful paycheck president.” He also had some zingers about foreign policy, starting with “We should have one,” and focusing on the U.S. relationship with Pakistan given the latter’s apparent harboring of Osama bin Laden for years.

Cain had the advantage of speaking during the convention proceedings themselves, and he seized it. The crowd erupted for standing ovations several times: for his comments on presidential leadership, taxes, energy, immigration and other topics. He outlined a tax policy similar to Gingrich’s: zero capital gains tax, a lower (but unspecified) rate for corporate income tax, zero tax on repatriated profits and a one-year holiday on all payroll taxes. He said America’s struggling economy would eventually make it less secure, and that “Being number two economically or militarily is not in our DNA.” He described “comprehensive immigration reform” as “code for they don’t know what to do.” And he concluded by recalling his father’s admonition when preparing to head into town, and saying, “To the rest of the country: Them that’s going, get on the wagon. Them that ain’t, get outta the way!”

My guess is that Gingrich would have gotten a more boisterous reception on the convention floor and Cain a less raucous one at the dinner, were their speaking slots reversed. Conventioneers raved about Gingrich’s speech Friday night, and even those who have heard Gingrich speak numerous times said they were impressed. But Cain’s ability to connect with a crowd — as we also saw at the first GOP debate, in South Carolina earlier this month — is not matched by anyone in the current GOP field.

More to come as the chairman’s election moves along.

– By Kyle Wingfield

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Left wing management

May 14th, 2011
1:26 pm

Gingrich spoke to a dinner crowd that warmed up during the course of his message. He spoke of American exceptionalism and outlined a four-point tax plan: zero capital gains taxes, a corporate income tax rate matching Ireland’s 12.5 percent rate, 100 percent business expensing of new equipment purchases within a year, and a permanent end to the estate tax.”

Sounds like American Delusionalism to me. Why on earth do we want to imitate the corporate tax rates of devastated Ireland? And it’s funny isn’t it, with long term unemployment at devastating levels and all this bunch can talk about is wrangling over tax schemes. Was a word even spoken here about educating our workers or helping to equip them for a future with more competition from India and China?

hsn

May 14th, 2011
2:10 pm

GA can lay the red carpet for them if it wants to, but NONE of those two will ever win the nomination for the national race.!!!

hsn

May 14th, 2011
2:15 pm

On another note… Kyle, as a journalist, does this police state-like action by your governor against your fellow journalists and reporters trouble you?
I hope you blog about it. Unless you are scared he will send the state police to your office, too.

http://blogs.ajc.com/radio-tv-talk/2011/05/13/fox-5-banned-from-nathan-deal-immigration-bill-signing/?cp=all

You have got to love the “constitution and America-loving” Republicans.

Dave R.

May 14th, 2011
2:40 pm

“GA can lay the red carpet for them if it wants to, but NONE of those two will ever win the nomination for the national race.!!!”

Gingrich, no. Cain? Don’t count the man out.

As we’ve seen before someone capable of exciting crowds can actually be elected to high office, despite a complete lack of experience and limited resume. That’s how we got our current President in 2008.

Herman Cain can excite a crowd AND he has a resume our current President could only dream of having.

LEROIX

May 14th, 2011
2:45 pm

It’s Herman Cain or vote for Obama.NOOT is the foulest hypocrit to ever commit adultery in every state he visited.

David

May 14th, 2011
2:50 pm

Dave R.
Thank you for educating me on how we got our current President. I always thought it was because our former President ran the country so far off track and into the crapper that Americans from sea to shining sea stood up and said no more to that way of doing things. Things like invading other countries based on lies and turning our surplus into deficits due to out of control spending, yes out of control spending.I must have been wrong. Thank you for correcting me.

Worst pizza, worst ingredients, worst ideas

May 14th, 2011
3:00 pm

Those Godfather pizzas were God Awful.

Newt ate too many of them.

KOOL

May 14th, 2011
3:11 pm

Haha… never had Godfather pizza, but if they taste as bad as you say they do, doesn’t that make Herman Cain look even better if that company thrived under his leadership?

Worst pizza, worst ingredients, worst ideas

May 14th, 2011
3:17 pm

That pizza company never did thrive, it’s almost completely faded away.

hsn

May 14th, 2011
3:29 pm

“As we’ve seen before someone capable of exciting crowds can actually be elected to high office, despite a complete lack of experience and limited resume. That’s how we got our current President in 2008.”

Huh??? What did the tower-high combined “experience” and mile-long “resumes” of Bush and Cheney do for us in the 8 years they were in office??? Running the country into the ground, supporting CEOs to offshore jobs overseas and locking our country in useless wars. Experience, my yansh!! Experience in what??

I guess that’s why the founding fathers didn’t make “experience” in any specific area a constitutinal requirement to run for the Presidency? Cons love to talk about “experience.” Yet they never say what area that “experience” should be in. Everyone (every one of us 300 Million+ Americans) has his/her own criteria for “qualifications” to be president. Whose shall we go with??? I say let’s go with the constitution. The founding fathers knew a thing or two about a constitutional republic that people today still haven’t grasped yet.

The only “useful” response the cons have for the abysmal failures of the “EXPERIENCED” Bush and Cheney’s 8-year reign of terror is: “Bush is not in office anymore.”
If THIS is what “EXPERIENCE” has to offer, then I’d much rather vote in a janitor.

getalife

May 14th, 2011
3:30 pm

A speaker that had to resign in disgrace and a pizza maker.

Is that the best the gop has to offer.

Hey Andy,

I got banned too:)

Vietnam 2

May 14th, 2011
3:31 pm

For all American people: Google Derivatives and credit default swaps. $645 TRILLION was scamed between 2000 and June 2008 67% for mortgages. Where do you think the sub-prime money came from??? They had to launder the money somewhere. Newt Getrich talks about more people on food stamps but fails to diclose the TRUTH why. Give phil gramm R TX and his criminal republican friends credit for your home values falling like a rock and the economy of the world at the abyss. The US generates $15 trillion a year, so you do the math. Lets steal money from SS which averages $1,007 a month payments to people that actually paid for the RIGHT to recieve what is due to them. Lets give it to the corporations which pay little or no taxes, ie GE. that hire more and more people from other countries. I remember PATCO giving Newt over $200K for his first election in 1980 and when the strike came he REFUSED to talk with anyone from PATCO. If anyone cares, the FAA and ATC are still having probems. But who cares! Republicans create the mess and then blame others for the problem. I.E. Look at who repug governors are blaming for the loss of revenues in their states. Not the derivative scam artist from the republican party but the real workers!!! phil gramm should be in prison in Cuba along with many of his criminal friends. Instead he is retired from the Senate on a great retirement from taxpayer money. Why aren’t the tea-bag party idiots complaining about that TRUE waste of money.
What about the CIA? I think the CIA should eliminate all the outsourced contracts (70%) to former CIA government employees probably already receiving a federal retirement check. What a scam! Companies like Blackwater which received over $800 million from bush and buddies. You don’t hear any of the republicans complain about the CIA. DO YOU??? What about all that CIA money receives and then failed to warn the US about OBL and 9/11. Or was their more to it???Vote republiscam and watch the rich get even richer while SS medicare and other basic parts of our society are ripped apart and the money given to the wall street scam artist. Bernie Madoff is correct when he says the government has the biggest Ponzi scam ever created on the world. Derivatives based upon 40 to 1 odds and guaranteed by AIG with credit default swaps. Give me a TRILLION and I will pay you $40 TRILLION, what a deal!!! $Google the Glass Steagall Act and read how the repeal by republicans led by phil gramm created this worldwide financial disaster and it isn’t over if the republicans regain control. Thank a republiscam for this mess! DO NOT THINK A TEACHER!!!!

getalife

May 14th, 2011
3:37 pm

Are any candidates running on changing the fact that people can donate millions to get billions back and pay no taxes?

Nope.

America is soft on white collar crime because our system is a legalized bribery system with guaranteed returns..

Cobb Woman of Color

May 14th, 2011
3:46 pm

I wish I could’ve been there! :-)

hsn

May 14th, 2011
3:55 pm

…And one more thing… Gingrich’s chickens are flying all over in proximity… He knows they are coming hooome….to roost !! The man is carrying so many skeletons and spiders he is afraid of his own shadow.

As for Cain, his scripted rhetoric will run out after a while. Like all of these hack right-wing talk show hosts, he will be exposed for who he really is when he can longer put people on hold, or take a commercial break to redeem himself whenever his back is against the wall.

KOOL

May 14th, 2011
4:16 pm

Godfather’s Pizza was profitable within 14 months after Herman Cain assumed stewardship of the company. His biography and other numerous achievements are easily found with a few keystrokes. I wish the same could be said for the current dullard that occupies the Oval Office.

eli

May 14th, 2011
4:34 pm

kool,

godfathers pizza is not the United States.

KOOL

May 14th, 2011
4:52 pm

eli,

Yes. It is.

obamessiah

May 14th, 2011
5:11 pm

No one will beat the Obamessiah… Obamessiah has singlehandedly killed Osama and saved the world from all forms of terrorism. Obamessiah has saved the economy and created billions of new shovel ready jobs until now we have no significant unemployment. Housing prices have finally been brought down to levels that allow all of us to buy a new home! If is wonderful! Obamessiah is the savior of the USA… Obamessiah is the true king of the world and his name will live on in history as that of a living breathing walking talking god among humans. Obamessiah is the smartest man on the planet since the beginning of time. Praise Obamessiah! Praise Obamessiah! We are so lucky! We live in such a wonderful time!

Bart Abel

May 14th, 2011
5:13 pm

Gingrich advocates zero capital gains taxes, a corporate income tax rate matching Ireland’s 12.5 percent rate, 100 percent business expensing of new equipment purchases within a year, and a permanent end to the estate tax. Then, completely contradicting himself, he said he wanted to be “the most successful paycheck president.”

Seriously? When you cut or eliminate taxes on corporations, capital gains, and inheritances, then tax burden is shifted to where? Paychecks. When you cut taxes on those who can most afford them, then who is the tax burden is shifted to? Those who can least afford them.

For the life of me, I can’t understand how so many have been so easily persuaded that income from work should be taxed at higher rates than income from investments and inheritances. Work is, in part, created by investments, but investments only grow in value because of work. I’m tired about hearing about reducing the tax burden for the “producers”. If you work, then you’re a producer. Investment and labor need each other and both should be taxed at exactly the same rates.

Gingrich is promoting a tax scheme that unburdens the super-rich who get most of their money from unearned sources of income (inheritances, dividends, capital gains) at the expense of everybody else.

By the way, how are those lower corporate tax rates working out for the people of Ireland these days?

Atlanta 1

May 14th, 2011
5:21 pm

Vietnam 2 – many claims, but with no facts to back it up.

Fact: Jimmy Carter pushed for a change in the law late in his administration that gave Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac much more leeway on what was and wasn’t acceptable for home loans.

Fact: Late in the Clinton Administration both institutions were pushed by the left to free up more monies for the less fortunante so that they could own a home.

Fact: Banks and other lending institutions were more or less forced to give many loans that they knew stood a good chance of eventually ending in forclosure and then willingly gave other loans that involved less risk, provided the economy stayed well. And why? Because Freddie and Fannie guaranteed them.

Fact: In 2002 the Bush administration tried to have the law changed. This was blocked by Senator Chris Dodd and Representative Barney Frank. Both with very close ties to Frannie and Freddie (both in the top 3 in donations from both institutions over the year. Why did the Bush administration back down? The race card was played. Oh, and who is also in the Top 3 and ‘by far’ number 1 in 2007 and 2008 – then Senator and now President Obama.

Fact: The tipping point for the collapse of the economy was bad mortgages. And what did the 3 above do? Why they blamed the Bush Administration. And while investment firms have been verbally ripped by the media and this administration – what about Freddie and Fannie? “Crickets”…

Let’s be clear. I find ‘great fault’ with the Republicans on many, many issues. They are just as cupible as the Dems – but it is by no means they way you try and lay it out. Come back when you get past the age of 35 and actually try and see two sides to things.

In short. They both suck. It is time for a new day; where we have a leader who is willing attack everything that has been kicked down the road by both parties for almost 50 years. Every part of our government from Education to the Defense of this country to Energy, Social programs and our own international policies need to be rethinked. With the first question being…. “What can we afford?”

obamessiah

May 14th, 2011
5:27 pm

Obamessiah will eat the rich! Praise Obamessiah! We are so blessed! Obamessiah will tax the thieving corporations into oblivion just like he did with GE who now pays a very equal share. Praise Obamessiah! Obamessiah has ended war across the globe and brought our brave armies home and beat our weapons into plowshares! Praise Obamessiah! Yes he did!!! Praise Obamessiah! If you do not agree you are an evil malcontent faux news watching tool of the rethuuglikkan hordes. Praise Obamessiah! Praise Obamessiah!

kool2

May 14th, 2011
5:32 pm

thanks for the truth vietnam 2, and the rest is history. everyone should do some research instead of “talking out the side of their necks”. but then again this is not about truth.

MarkV

May 14th, 2011
6:06 pm

Herman Cain is a demagogue, who has been shown wrong many times, but it never bothers him. He is good of getting applause from non-thinking audiences. When he substituted for Neal Boortz, he managed the almost unthinkable – to make Boortz sound intelligent by comparison. It is laughable to argue whether he has been a good or bad businessman – the Presidency is not a business like a pizza company.

MarkV

May 14th, 2011
6:17 pm

As for Gingrich, it all boils down to one fundamental issue. The main problem in this country is not the government, the Republican Party, the Democratic Party, or any other institution. The problem is the ignorant and stupid electorate. That somebody like Newt can get any support in his bid is sufficient evidence, but not necessary evidence. One could name scores of people who have support in spite of being not just completely unqualified, but barely above the level of village idiots.

MarkV

May 14th, 2011
6:24 pm

There are, naturally, people who are well below the level of village idiots, but hopefully they are not candidates for any office. “obamessiah” is a good case in point.

jconservative

May 14th, 2011
6:30 pm

Gingrich talked a lot about lowering taxes but not a minute, that I can find, on lowering spending.

We have a spending problem. There is not a damn thing wrong with our taxes that lowering spending will not cure. Or, more simply, the less you spend the less revenue you need.

MarkV

May 14th, 2011
6:45 pm

“Lowering spending” is a slogan, not a recipe for action.

KOOL

May 14th, 2011
7:29 pm

MarkV, if you attended UGA, you obviously majored in something on the north campus. “Lowering spending” is a perfect beginning for a recipe for action.

Left wing management

May 14th, 2011
7:40 pm

“Lowering spending” is a perfect beginning for a recipe for action.

It’s a mental crutch. For those who have trouble thinking both sides of a ledger at the same time.

obamessiah

May 14th, 2011
8:01 pm

Praise Obamessiah! MarkV understands that we must increase government spending and accelerate the growth of deficits and debts! There is no better way to guarantee the fantastical glory of the “World of Next Tuesday” than to loose the presses and flood the economy with more money. We have only to thank Obama’s Ben Bernake for our certainly certain economical certainties. We hear as much nightly on MSNBC and CNN, so it is a fact. Praise Obamessiah! We are done with Osama Bin Laden! Long live Obama’s Ben Bernake! Praise Obamessiah! The chosen one is our strength and our crutch. The Alpha, the Omega, the Yin and the Yang! Never before have I felt such giddy wonderment at the state of the union. Praise Obamessiah!

Michael H. Smith

May 14th, 2011
9:13 pm

psst… pssst…. the tingle… do you still feel it running up your leg, obamessiah? :lol:

Raising Cain and waiting on Daniels

independent thinker

May 14th, 2011
11:12 pm

The clowns at the circus get raves too.

obamessiah

May 14th, 2011
11:36 pm

Yes, Comrade Michael… a Matthews-esque tingle running up my leg reminds me that we must stand in awe of the wonders of the Obamessiah! Things haven’t looked this rosy since the Obamessiah paid cash for my clunkers. Isn’t it a great time to be an American… Praise Obamessiah! He turns water into wine and still has time for golf. We are not worthy of such a leader.

independent thinker

May 15th, 2011
12:17 am

Obamassiah- I am sure that terrorists like Ben Laden and Kaddafi now feel more than a tingle going up their leg when they see pictures of Obama- they probably need multiple changes of underwear if they know they are wanted by the US and know we have a president who does not read My Pet Goat while we are under attack.

Dave R.

May 15th, 2011
12:41 am

““Lowering spending” is a slogan, not a recipe for action.”

Yeah MarkV, and “Hope” is not a strategy, and “Change” is not a policy.

obamessiah

May 15th, 2011
12:44 am

You are very correct “IT”…. We should start a drive to purchase millions of ’super-bad’ Obama SEAL action figures for distribution to the children. It is wonderful that the world has a REAL HERO in the Obamessiah! Praise his name! We are a lucky country! Our troubles are behind us. Happy days are here, again! Praise Obamessiah!

Dave R.

May 15th, 2011
12:57 am

“I guess that’s why the founding fathers didn’t make “experience” in any specific area a constitutinal requirement to run for the Presidency?”

No, they left it to the stupidity of the electorate, as was proven in 2008.

“Cons love to talk about “experience.” Yet they never say what area that “experience” should be in.”

Some do. How about experience in MANAGEMENT? Hope & Punt ™ had NONE before being elected to the Presidency. How about LEADERSHIP? Hope & Punt (tm ) had NONE before being elected to the Presidency. How about knowledge of how a business should be run? Hope & Punt ™ had NONE before being elected to the Presidency. How about real-time knowledge of how a free market economy works? Hope & Punt ™ had NONE before being elected to the Presidency (and exhibits no knowledge of it today, either).

Herman Cain has all of the above today.

How about experience in government? Herman has none. Hope & Punt ™ had I believe 4 unmemorable years as a state senator where he authored no bills of any significance, and voted “present” more often than not. And two unmemorable years as a U.S. Senator before running for President where he authored no bills of any significance

“Everyone (every one of us 300 Million+ Americans) has his/her own criteria for “qualifications” to be president. Whose shall we go with???”

I say we go with what matters beyond the vapid, mindless slogan uttering that hasn’t produced any significant improvement in our economy in 2+ years, but has improved the President’s handicap.

“I say let’s go with the constitution. The founding fathers knew a thing or two about a constitutional republic that people today still haven’t grasped yet.”

You wouldn’t know what the Founding Fathers knew or meant regarding the Constitution if your life depended on it, hsn.

hsn

May 15th, 2011
1:34 am

“How about experience in MANAGEMENT? How about LEADERSHIP? How about knowledge of how a business should be run? Herman Cain has all of the above today.”

What did MANAGEMENT, LEADERSHIP, AND knowledge of how a business should be run do for this country in the 8years of G. W. Bush and Dick Cheney, WHO HAD ALL OF THE ABOVE??? HUH??

“I say we go with what matters beyond the vapid, mindless slogan uttering that hasn’t produced any significant improvement in our economy in 2+ years”

News flash: “MANAGEMENT, LEADERSHIP, AND knowledge of how a business should be run” DID NOT PRODUCE ANY SIGNIFICANT IMPROVEMENT in OUR ECONOMY in 8+ YEARS (that is 4 times 2+ years)

Reality is biotchslapping you in the face.. Yet, you don’t even seem to recognize it, Dave R, do you?

Dave R.

May 15th, 2011
4:18 am

hsn, unlike you, I don’t dwell on the past, nor live in it.

I always find it amusing that when reality bites you libs on the butt when Hope & Punt ™ is exposed for the fraud that he is, all you can do is revert to blaming Bush.

Newsflash! I never voted for Bush. Ever. Can’t hang that one on me.

Newsflash #2! Bush can no longer run for office. Move on.

Newsflash #3! If you have a problem with Cain, spell it out in detail, not just some lame “he’ll never get elected” tripe.

Newsflash #4! When faced with facts about Hope & Punt ™, try REFUTING them instead of changing the subject.

Now, are you capable of having an intelligent discussion, or do you wish to keep getting bitc#slapped all over the landscape?

carlosgvv

May 15th, 2011
7:49 am

Dave R.

Newsflash! Thank you so much for instructing us as to how we should post here. We would just be lost without you.

MarkV

May 15th, 2011
8:02 am

“Hope” is not a strategy, and “Change” is not a policy.”

Nobody has pretended they are.

Michael H. Smith

May 15th, 2011
9:48 am

Trump has argued that Bush gave us Obama. The problem for Obama as it stands, is that Bush is gone. Now Obama must stand alone and on his own merits, with no one to discredit for the current state of affairs since he became President other than himself. Much to Obama’s support’s chagrin is in the fact that Ex-Presidents share one virtue in common with dead Presidents: You can’t vote them out of office.
As Bush had only one Presidency, Obama cannot be a gift twice given. This time around if Obama is to have another Presidency, he will have to come by it the old fashion way: He will have to earn it.

This is going to be a fun but grueling political campaign battle leading up to 2012: The toughest opponent Obama will face in that battle, is Obama.

Just sayin

May 15th, 2011
10:03 am

Herman Cain is delusional and will not win the nomination without the black vote as their aren’t enough of them in the GOP. Some white people “say” they are for Cain but come election time its a different story. The GOP is going down in flames. lol!!!!

Dave R.

May 15th, 2011
10:27 am

“Newsflash! Thank you so much for instructing us as to how we should post here. We would just be lost without you.”

Typical deflection when you have nothing to counter valid points.

Your intellectual emptiness is showing carlos.

hsn

May 15th, 2011
11:13 am

“unlike you, I don’t dwell on the past, nor live in it.”

Dave, R, yeah, unless the past has to do with Jimmy Carter or Bill Clinton

“Newsflash! I never voted for Bush. Ever. Can’t hang that one on me.”

Of course, NOT ONE Bush supporter will say he/she voted for him . What a shocker !!

“Newsflash #2! Bush can no longer run for office. Move on.”

I told you earlier that THIS LINE is ALL you cons have got to defend the 8 years of absolute disaster you reigned on this country. NOW your ONLY defense is move on? Too bad we never heard the line, “Carter can no longer run for office. Move On.”

Newsflash #4! When faced with facts about Hope & Punt ™, try REFUTING them instead of changing the subject.

This one comes right out of talk-radio… And Oh, the IRONY !! You WERE FACED with FACTS that for 8 YEARS, your “MANAGEMENT, LEADERSHIP, AND knowledge of how a business should be run” DID NOT PRODUCE ANY SIGNIFICANT IMPROVEMENT in OUR ECONOMY. Were you able to refute those FACTs ??? No, instead you were hopping all over the place spewing nonesense, and coming up with trite lines like “Bush is no longer in office..” etc.. A typical intellectually bankrupt victim of right-wing talk radio, who can’t think of anything original to say, except the ones he hears from his hack heroes on the air. Talk about the pot calling the kettle black.

Michael H. Smith

May 15th, 2011
11:39 am

The nicest thing about the past, is now obama will become part of it.

Tall

May 15th, 2011
11:41 am

““Newsflash! I never voted for Bush. Ever. Can’t hang that one on me.”

HSN: I voted for GWB twice and am damn glad that kept Al Gore out office. Did GWB make mistakes? Yes, he did. I’m a conservative Republican and am not happy with the fiscal mismanagement that took place. Laying the blame of the real estate debacle and the ensuing economic contraction at his feet shows is short sighted and ignorant on your part. There are numerous reasons – number one is the overreach of FNM and FRE for starters. The main culprits are Christopher Dodd and Barney Frank. Economic cycles do occur and when you have on over allocation of investment capital into an illiquid asset like real estate – the results are what we have now.

I don’t have time to get into a debate here, but your diatribe is nothing more than schoolyard vitriol.

Pizzaman

May 15th, 2011
12:45 pm

Hay Newt! Got a sure fire way you can win in ‘12. You can propose a bunch of changes to the way Congress does business, say 8 different items, and promise to bring bills to the floor in the first 100 days that will change things for the better, say 10 bills. You can call it “Contract with America”. Whatta ya think?

Tundra Dude

May 15th, 2011
12:47 pm

Left wing man@1:26 wrote in part:

Sounds like American Delusionalism to me. Why on earth do we want to imitate the corporate tax rates of devastated Ireland?

Don’t be so harsh. This wasn’t a Mensa convention.