By all means, Democrats, follow this advice

Who better than Ralph Nader to give electoral advice that ends up making progressives victorious?

From Politico:

Nader told POLITICO on Wednesday that he is working on bringing together about half a dozen presidential candidates who could “dramatically expand a robust discussion within the Democratic Party and among progressive voters across the country.” Each would focus on a specific issue where the far left says Obama hasn’t done enough, including the environment, labor and health care.

Nader, who has run for president five times as an independent or third party candidate — including his 2000 run on the Green ticket, which some Democrats say cost Al Gore the election — said that for next year, he believes an ideologically based, multi-candidate primary challenge would be the best way to pull Obama to the left ahead of the second term he believes Republicans will not be able to stop.

In an op-ed published Wednesday morning by Bloomberg News, Nader laid out the argument that Obama will be re-elected due to weakness and confusion in the Republican field and because he’s kowtowed to corporations and others who can help him win a second term. “Obama is averse to conflict with corporate power and disarmingly expedient in compromising with Republicans, leaving the latter to argue largely among themselves,” he wrote.

Obama is “really in a very, very powerful position” to win re-election, Nader told POLITICO, and the slate of candidates wouldn’t be meant to give Obama a serious challenge for the Democratic nomination, but instead to “structurally pull him in the opposite direction” than he’s taken since his 2008 campaign.

If there was a group of people from the president’s own party geared up to debate him in Iowa and New Hampshire, “it is harder for him to say no,” Nader said. “His strategists can say, ‘Don’t fight it, Barack; use it, revel in it; you’re good on your feet.’ ” (link original)

Yes, Democrats, that’s what Obama needs: primary challengers next year who pull him farther to the left ahead of the general election. After all, why should Republicans enjoy a monopoly on fractiousness “robust discussion”?

– By Kyle Wingfield

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30 comments Add your comment

Charlie

April 28th, 2011
3:57 pm

You left out Nader’s money quote, where he screamed “Get off my lawn!”

carlosgvv

April 28th, 2011
4:12 pm

Obama is to the left one day, the right the next and the middle the following day. So, pulling him to the left won’t be easy since he wants to be all things to all people.

DJ

April 28th, 2011
4:20 pm

Why did it take two years to release a simple birth certificate? What was he afraid of? The fact his mom was 18?

Michael H. Smith

April 28th, 2011
4:27 pm

For obumer to go any further to the left he’d have to become a card carrying communist.

Road Scholar

April 28th, 2011
4:27 pm

DJ: Because the whole thing was stupid!

that's goofy

April 28th, 2011
4:33 pm

if only the real world could be defined as left and right – the simpletons would be so much happier. Like most thinking adults – Obama’s stance depends on the issue. If he isn’t making the “base” of either party happy then he is doing the right thing.

ByteMe

April 28th, 2011
4:38 pm

What Charlie @ 3:57 said.

JF McNamara

April 28th, 2011
4:58 pm

Carlosgv wrote,

“Obama is to the left one day, the right the next and the middle the following day. So, pulling him to the left won’t be easy since he wants to be all things to all people.”

So trying to be a good leader to your entire constituency is bad? That’s why I like him. He realizes that there are loonies on the far left and loonies on the far right and he caters to the 80% of the sane people in the middle. Pragmatic, actionable, moderate governance is ok with me.

DW

April 28th, 2011
5:11 pm

Well put McNamara

Dusty

April 28th, 2011
5:21 pm

I wish I could gender up some confidence in Pres.Obama but I can’t. He’s all over the place: left, right, middle. I believe he depends on the advice of others because he can’t make decisions himself. His lack of experience may be the problem but it comes across as lack of strength and poor direction.

If the Republicans would follow my advice, they would be on their hands and knees begging Sec. Defense Robert Gates to come forward as a candidate. Now there is a smart, experienced, strong man who can make sensible decisions without fanfare or showmanship. Americans would realize that he is exactly what we need, a man for every Amrican, rich poor, ordinary or extraordinary. Ahhh….if only. Even Nader would vote for him!!

Jefferson

April 28th, 2011
5:24 pm

DJ, the details are really none of your business (or mine) the big picture is he was born on US soil.

Funny thing about republicans, when their bs is called they figure those calling them out are democrats, leftist or whatever — not always true.

FEAR (False Evidence Appearing Real)

April 28th, 2011
5:40 pm

I bet if there was a “test”, 90% of the electorate ends up somewhere in the middle. Boortz says we’re all Libertarians but I’ve never taken his “test”. I believe the president is forced to govern mostly from the center primariy because trying to caucus the Dems in the Senate to a single position is like herding freakin kittens.

Gordon

April 28th, 2011
6:34 pm

Tell me how proposing a budget in January with no mention of entitlement reform and then 2 months later proposing a budget in response to entitlement reform is good leadership. Obama is an observer. He comments on things and moves on. He never even offered a health care plan – he left that to Congressional Democrats. Those of you on the left don’t have to become conservatives, but please stop defending the indefensible. Life is full of close calls, but the question of whether Obama is a leader is not one of them.

Michael H. Smith

April 28th, 2011
6:45 pm

You don’t even have to worry about these leftwingnuts on this blog becoming slightly left of center Gordon, let alone becoming anything approaching a conservative by anyone’s definition.

We agree, obumer is not a leader.

MarkV

April 28th, 2011
6:56 pm

Gordon: Do you want to name a leader among the Republican presidential hopefuls?

Ramguy

April 28th, 2011
7:04 pm

Kyle should worry more about his Repubs. Their top contenders are Donald (I’ve egg on my face) Trump and Sarah (I won’t appear on any network except for Faux News because they are the only ones that will lob me softball questions) Palin. Yes, Democrats, that’s what Obama needs the top Repub contenders that rate high on the whacko scale.

Gordon

April 28th, 2011
7:30 pm

MarkV, you won’t hear me pretend that Republicans are putting up a good leader at this point. Mitch Daniels is probably the best of the ones that may run, and I thought Paul Ryan showed leadership by proposing some unpopular but necessary entitlement reforms, though he is not running for President. All I ask is that lefties stop pretending that Obama is anything more than an empty suit. Even though I didn’t vote for him and don’t like his policies, I at least thought he would lead, but he has failed miserably.

Gordon

April 28th, 2011
7:36 pm

What is our energy policy? How will we bridge the gap between now and the decades it is going to take to switch to something besides oil?

What is our immigration policy? If Obama doesn’t like the way Arizona proposes to solve the problem where is his solution?

Where is our real (details included) plan for eliminating the deficit? Saying things like we need “smarter government” just don’t cut it.

What is the plan in Libya?

I don’t have to agree with everything, but it would be comforting to know Obama actually had a plan to solve these problems rather than appearing on Oprah.

Michael H. Smith

April 28th, 2011
7:41 pm

I’m for Daniels, Gordon. How about you, Kyle? Friday is approaching want to make a side bet that Mitch is in, now that Barber dropped out?

Oh, and by the way, a top name Dem says Daniels is the one obumer’s people see as a problem for them. Considering obumer is beating himself in the polls so far, they should be looking at Daniels with weary eyes.

Michael H. Smith

April 28th, 2011
7:44 pm

What is our energy policy?

Other than a moratorium on drilling, importing more and more foreign oil and refined gas… um, we really don’t have one.

buck@gon

April 28th, 2011
9:19 pm

Pass me the popcorn for this one.

Please cover it, Kyle, because your buddies in the left-wing urinal constipation news department won’t. The proof is here. First I’ve heard of this news is in the opinion section.

Michael H. Smith

April 28th, 2011
9:54 pm

Poll: Obama losing minority vote
by Dr. Jason Johnson

According to Gallup’s most recent poll Obama’s approval rating amongst African Americans is down to about 84 percent, which is still higher than any other group, but significantly down from the 90-plus percent approval he had in his first year or so in office. Latino support has also fallen to 54 percent, which again, is much higher than his overall approval ratings, which hovered around 47 percent for most of 2010. As of the middle of April Obama’s approval remains steadfastly at 47 percent, which puts him higher than Bill Clinton (46 percent), Ronald Reagan (41 percent) and of course Jimmy Carter (37 percent) at this point in their respective careers. Both Bush’s were experiencing approval ratings in the 70’s at this point of their presidencies because both were launching wars at this point. Amazing how that works to raise approval levels. The catch is that unlike any of the previous presidents, President Obama owes his success to his ability to not just get a good percentage of minority votes but also to get those minorities to turn out in significant numbers in critical locations. Any slippage in that intimate dance between approval and turnout might spell doom for any chance Obama has to succeed.

http://www.chicagodefender.com/article-10718-poll-obama-losing-minority-vote.html

Michael H. Smith

April 28th, 2011
10:22 pm

From the huffy post no less…

Fire Fighters Turn Off the Spigot
Posted: 04/27/11 04:32 PM ET

The International Association of Fire Fighters announced yesterday it would no longer be giving money to federal candidates. Rather, the 300,000-member union said it would put its energy and resources into the fight at the state level over collective bargaining.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/mary-bottari/fire-fighters-turn-off-th_b_854500.html

Michael H. Smith

April 28th, 2011
10:47 pm

Why Obama Cannot Win in 2012

Promises Made, Promises Broken. The man is a serial flip-flopper who has reversed himself on almost every major promise—and a lot of minor ones, too: His assertion about the openness of the health care reform legislation; his opposition to an individual mandate requiring people to buy health insurance; his strong support for publicly funded presidential campaigns; his claim that he would shut down Guantanamo and try terrorists in civilian courts; his criticism of Bush for getting us bogged down in a winless war in a Muslim country, then going into Libya; his promise that families making less than $250,000 would see no tax increases. The list of his flip-flops is endless.

On the positive side, the man can claim that he’s been right on almost every issue because he’s been on both sides of so many of them. But American voters want a president with principles who stands for something—besides his own reelection, I mean.

http://blogs.forbes.com/merrillmatthews/2011/04/28/why-obama-cannot-win-in-2012/

Michael H. Smith

April 28th, 2011
11:16 pm

obumer is leaking support like a sieve, Kyle. There is more time for him to make mistakes than corrections at this point and this time around he is carrying negative baggage.

MarkV

April 28th, 2011
11:43 pm

It is quite amusing to see the Republicans express their wishful dreams while their representatives are being pummeled at town hall meetings.

Jefferson

April 28th, 2011
11:44 pm

Smith you are pretty much a traitor, are you not ?

I Report :-) You Whine :-( Thee Magnificent!!! Just sayin...

April 29th, 2011
6:09 am

In the midst of a flaying, desperate attempt to deflect blame on anything and anyone for high gas prices, other than their drooling idiot energy policies, the libs at the AJC revealed a basic fact of economics that they have been trying to hide for decades-

Selling regular unleaded at $3.99 a gallon, with a tax hike of at least 2.8 cents a gallon taking effect this weekend, they face a decision: Do they eat the tax to hold the price below $4, or go past that psychological barrier? -Urinal

So, a tax on “business” is really a tax on consumers, eh?

I thought obozo was a middle class tax cutter?

hahahahahaha, yeah, ok.

carlosgvv

April 29th, 2011
9:06 am

JF McNamara – DW

It was President Truman who said that “when you try to please everyone you wind up pleasing no one”. It’s sadly clear Obama is no Harry Truman.

ChuckDoberman

April 29th, 2011
9:27 am

You’re right Kyle, if the GOP wants a chance at taking back the White House in 2012 they need to hope and pray that Democrats follow their typical M.O. and defeat themselves. I’m not saying Obama is doing a stellar job (though I agree with other posts stating that the President should base decisions upon the situation and environment rather than either sides ideology), I’m saying that those offered as possible/probable contenders in the GOP primary are inadequate at best. I agree that Daniels is viable, as well as Romney imo, but neither of these gentlemen is obnoxious enough to sate the 800 lb gorilla that their “base” has become at the GOP’s direction. When the master enflames emotion in the subject, especially negative emotion, the subject soon grows beyond the master’s control. Regarding humans, emotion overrides reason almost every time, a truth that has become blatantly apparent in the last 8 or 10 years in politics