The Obama birth certificate cometh; the madness won’t stoppeth
We finally have the birth certificate — I hope no one has to ask “whose birth certificate?” — long form and all.
So, there you have it.
Do I think this will end the debate? No, because conspiracy theorists generally aren’t persuaded by evidence. This was a ridiculous “debate” in the first place, and I expect it to become simply more ridiculous from here on. In fact, I think this may be good politically for President Obama, because the birthers will seem even crazier now.
As for Donald Trump: The potential presidential candidate is claiming the birth-certificate release as a scalp because he was the one who made a (kind of) mainstream issue of it. I disagree. How does it add luster to a candidate to make an issue of something that turns out to be much ado about nothing?
– By Kyle Wingfield
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arlene
April 27th, 2011
12:56 pm
Tall….why wasn’t Obama’s birth certificate an issue when he ran for president the first time? And maybe you looked shady to a would-be employer…maybe that’s why they questioned your birthplace. And finally, Obama’s crirics SHOULD be discredited. Shame on anyone questioning the President for proof of place of birth! They look like s bunch of fools.
JP
April 27th, 2011
12:57 pm
People are asking “what took so long?”
Obama didn’t need to do anything, The crazier the birthers got – the more they were tied to the GOP at large. Why do anything that will prevent your opponents from looking crazy?
So I am not sure why he released it now. Maybe he wanted to finish off Trump, take folks off high gas prices for a few days, who knows. Maybe this creates a divide – you either stop being a birther, or you continue with the illusion. Will be easy to tell now.
But I do agree with some that say a lot of Dems thought Bush was involved in 9/11. That conspiracy theory is really more appaling than the birther stuff.
Bottom line – and I am a Dem saying this – the Rs can beat Obama on the issues. They just don’t need this silly stuff.
Ramguy
April 27th, 2011
12:58 pm
How does a cocaine drug addict like Obama get into any college?
How did an alcoholic like Bush get elected to highest office in the land?
Jefferson
April 27th, 2011
12:59 pm
Kyle, did your daddy buy your 1st car for you?
Michael
April 27th, 2011
1:00 pm
When I’m losing a legal battle I try to knock out the foundations. So if you can’t beat him at the polls then you have to try to knock out his foundations. Maybe he wasn’t registered to vote in 2008? Or maybe he really wasn’t thirty five years old yet? Wait, that certificate just took care of that one. Good luck in 2012 when we coloreds win again.
tar and feathers party
April 27th, 2011
1:04 pm
Just fire J and be rid of him once and for all.
I Know You Are But What Am I
April 27th, 2011
1:04 pm
Thanks to Tall et al. who make Kyle’s case for him.
As long as there are fools, they will continue to babble and dissemble even when the proof has been laid in their laps.
Tall: Guess what? Obama played you like a fiddle. He let your cause overheat and then sucker-punched with the evidence he held in his hand.
I always get a kick out of the guy who’s been made fun of but is too ignorant to realize it.
tar and feathers party
April 27th, 2011
1:05 pm
2012 will be the year of REPUDIATION for obama and the DummyCraps.
Freedom Lover
April 27th, 2011
1:07 pm
Now we can begin the important process of electing Ron Paul as President.
Tech Man
April 27th, 2011
1:09 pm
Trump adds luster by being in the news. Publicity boosts his TV show ratings.
JP
April 27th, 2011
1:12 pm
I do like how Trump takes credit for getting Obama to show his birth certificate. Even though it was Trump himself who said the thing didn’t even exist. So he was proven 100% wrong and he’s happy about it? That is awesome denial.
joe
April 27th, 2011
1:15 pm
Whether he was born in the US or wasn’t, its a MOO point (as Joey once said)…but we need to focus on BO’s socialist policies that are doing harm to our currency, capitalistic economy and general freedom dwelling way of life. Those coupled with his never ending bailouts (add another 10 Mil for bailing out Morris Brown College) and entitlement spending, are the biggest threat to our country and that is what we need to focus on in order to boot him out of office. Throw in his blatant dissing of everything Christian while bending over backwards to praise everything muslim and that puts it over the top. He is simply the worst president we have ever had and it has zero to do with the color of his skin. Before you looney libs call me a racist, I’m supporting the Herminator, Cain.
I Know You Are But What Am I
April 27th, 2011
1:15 pm
…and the next thing you’ll know, NO ONE from the right will ever take ownership of the fact that they were a “birther”. It’s already apparent on a right wing blog that the faux-conservatives have not admitted their crackpipe moment.
Tech Man
April 27th, 2011
1:17 pm
Why didn’t one of our journalists get Obama to produce his birth certificate? What has happened to indepth hard journalism?
A TV game show host, real estate developer accomplished what the media couldn’t!
Tech Man
April 27th, 2011
1:19 pm
JP
April 27th, 2011
1:12 pm
According to what I just read, it may be wrong, Obama asked for one to be made and Hawaii made an exception and made one.
Swede Atlanta
April 27th, 2011
1:19 pm
Tall
I had to prove my citizenship when I recently changed jobs.
They would accept either my passport or my short-form birth certificate. Obama released his short-form birth certificate long ago so he satisfied the requirement an employer makes to determine citizenship.
E-nuf said.
Aquagirl
April 27th, 2011
1:23 pm
“A TV game show host, real estate developer accomplished what the media couldn’t!”
In some parts of the media, making yourself look like a total @$$ is not considered an accomplishment. YMMV.
Fix-It
April 27th, 2011
1:29 pm
Funny how the lefties just don’t get it, during the vetting process of an American candidate for president, several things must be produced by ALL candidates. Hey lefties can you name the ONLY candidate that did NOT produce all the required documentation? I bet you lefties would have cried foul is McCain had not produced his birth certificate, and his school records, as required.
Jefferson
April 27th, 2011
1:33 pm
An American should not have to prove he is an American in America, only in a foreign land. It should be the other way, prove he’s not an American. You traitors don’t deserve the freedoms provided to you.
ByteMe
April 27th, 2011
1:36 pm
I see what you did there, ByteMe: Now we’re not talking about “leaders” but “thought leaders” — which I suppose could be expanded to include anyone with a blog who favors Republican politicians
Palin said it on Fox, so you wouldn’t have read it. Gingrich is claiming he’s going to run for President, so he’s most definitely in the “leader” category.
So ok, Kyle, we’ll play your game for a moment. Is Boehner a leader? Is Cantor? Both have used the coded phrase “I take Obama at his word that he’s an American.” Does that ring a bell? Does that sound like “His mother was an American, so he’s an American, case closed” or does that sound like a way to have it both ways and keep the controversy going without having to take a stand for sanity? Who exactly led on this? Michele Bachmann. After 2 years and when finally pushed. She broke with the crowd. Sad when the crazy lady is the first to bail on the conspiracy.
Bob Jones
April 27th, 2011
1:37 pm
Not that it matters but someone should delve into a little history and find out if both parents must be citizens in order for a child to be a NATURAL BORN CITIZEN. A good place to start would be the 1790 Congressional record. I would suggest though that we should be paying more attention to the May 15 arab invasion of Israel. By the way, Israel turns 63 that day.
Sister Sarah
April 27th, 2011
1:43 pm
Well Tall.
The fact that NONE of the 43 White Presidents before him were never required to produce their birth certificates I think briskly fans the stench of racism around this issue.
Tech Man
April 27th, 2011
1:48 pm
Aquagirl
April 27th, 2011
1:23 pm
Since when!
It used to be a journalist and the research staff was a hard nosed truth seeking bulldog that asked the hard questions and demanded answers. When answers were not forthcoming they dug and dug until they uncovered the hidden.
Media economics causing shrinking budgets have replaced the journalist with a few talking heads in studio or on scene relying on google for information.
Aquagirl
April 27th, 2011
1:50 pm
Fix-it, which part of the Constitution requires candidates to submit any type of “things?” If it’s good enough for the State of Hawaii, which is responsible for proof of birth, then that’s not good enough?
You seem to have confused WorldNutDaily with the Constitution. Nobody is responsible for that, except you.
Like the Emperor parading down the street, with tiny scepter on display for all the world to see, you embarrassed birthers are fooling no one but yourselves. Cling to your imaginary shreds of dignity if it makes you feel better. But like I said, for the sake of your children and the entire country, stay the h3ll away from the voting booth. And while you’d never admit that out loud, much less on a blog, you know it’s true. Angry, fearful people are great targets for manipulation. At least cut the damn strings.
joe
April 27th, 2011
1:50 pm
For the record, the race card was played today at 1:43 pm…way to go Sarah!!
Tall
April 27th, 2011
1:52 pm
Arlene, I know you are…., Aqua Girl, Swede in Atlanta….
President Obama made this an issue for political gain. Why is the POTUS wasting time on this? For him to try to turn this into political gain says something about him, and it’s not positive. If the Clinton machine couldn’t disprove his American citizenship, then there is no need to believe otherwise.
President Obama got to where he is because he thinks you’re stupid. He learned his lessons from Saul Alinsky well. If you believe he sat in Jeremiah Wright’s church for twenty years and heard nothing, then read his books.
JP
April 27th, 2011
1:57 pm
Wow – Obama using the birther’s craziness for political gain? Unbelievable! A poltician looking for leverage! Maybe he should apologize to the GOP and the country for not producing the birth certificate in the first place…. of course, it’s Obama’s fault…
Gman
April 27th, 2011
1:57 pm
The term “race card” was created in an attempt to trivialize the elephant in the room that every person in America knows exists. That’s why the term is used when someone points out the elephant but others wish to ignore it.
John
April 27th, 2011
1:59 pm
For once, I agree with you Kyle…the madness won’t stop. While taking credit for forcing it’s release, Donald Trump says he won’t believe it until he examines it and verifies it’s authenticity. This is the same man who recently said he hired an investigative team who proved Obama was not born in the US. Wonder if he had a money back guarantee. This is also the same man who basically claimed he’s financially worth whatever he says he’s worth. Of course, this is the same man who is polling number 1 among the list of possible GOP presidential hopefuls.
redneckbluedog
April 27th, 2011
2:00 pm
Why are you squidbillies so incorrigible…? The Democrats want to lower the deficit using spending cuts and reasonable tax increases, preserve Medicare and Social Security, increase domestic production of renewables, and lower the cost of health care for everyone….Why would anyone get angry, crazy, violent, vulgar, and nasty about that..? Unless you are racist, ignorant, or very wealthy and don’t want to pay more taxes….The President provided proof of his citizenship a very long time ago, it’s just that you “loss for words” didn’t choose to believe it….Maybe stay home next year on election day…?!?…
Aquagirl
April 27th, 2011
2:11 pm
Tech Man, I don’t think it’s the shrinking budgets so much as the 24/7 news and the “let the viewer decide” approach, all combined with the University of Google syndrome. People really think they can do a couple of internet searches and suddenly, they know it all. And if some “so-called expert” disagrees, well, they’re part of the conspiracy.
Sad. When politicians pander to this crap, we’re pretty much done.
joe
April 27th, 2011
2:12 pm
LOL…the Dems don’t want to “lower the deficit” at all. Otherwise, they would cut spending. They have zero desire to do so…they just want to raise the debt limit to tack on another trillion to our existing debt and spend us into oblivion. In order to serious about lowering the deficit, you cannot have ObamaCare in the same sentence. Fiscally, it will not work, it is not possible. Why Dems don’t get more upset at the thought of us going into bankruptcy blows my mind. If that happens, you won’t be able to get healthcare, or gasoline, or groceries cause our currency will be worthless. Wake up you big dummies!! We all pay enough taxes already, we need to cut 25% across the board just to survive and preserve our way of life. The only one who has said anything to date who realizes this is Ron Paul. I laughed at him 4 years ago, but would support him based solely on his support of cutting everything possible, including our military, foreign aid, etc.
buzzn
April 27th, 2011
2:12 pm
Jack, Tall you’ve both failed the idiot litmus test.
The proof's in the hair
April 27th, 2011
2:14 pm
I want proof that The Donalds hair is really his. I demand it, even.
Give me a BREAK
April 27th, 2011
2:22 pm
Most sane folks understood the President did not have anything to ‘prove’. My favorite part of today’s statement is when Obama referred to Trump (and his ilk) as a “side show and carnival barkers”.
Pinche Huevos
April 27th, 2011
2:25 pm
CARNIVAL BARKERS>>>>LOL
Tech Man
April 27th, 2011
2:28 pm
Aquagirl
April 27th, 2011
2:11 pm
I disagree on shrinking budgets. That is why news groups try to work out co-op with CNN etc.
I agree on 24/7 news/opinion pushing ridiculous stories to fill time.
That being said it’s a shame Obama is forced to react to Trump rather than the news media.
That is akin to the Mayor of Atlanta having to respond to NeNe and Sharie rather than AJC.
Tech Man
April 27th, 2011
2:31 pm
Give me a BREAK
April 27th, 2011
2:22 pm
Yep, here is the President forced to cave to Trump rather than the news media. I think it shows how little below the surface reporting and fact finding is going on in our national media. So many sources, so many articles, so little depth.
carlosgvv
April 27th, 2011
2:38 pm
The emergence of the birthers shows America has reached a new level of dumbing down. So, look for this kind of conspiracy theory thinking to continue thru the next election and on into the foreseeable future.
Linda
April 27th, 2011
2:40 pm
joe@2:12, You don’t get it. Can’t you see that it’s intentional? Obama knows exactly what he is doing. The progressives are in step with him, whereas some of the Democrats are in denial.
Cut 25%? We need to cut 40% just to break even & that leaves the debt.
DebbieDoRight
April 27th, 2011
2:48 pm
How does a cocaine drug addict like
ObamaBUSH get into any collegeThere!! Fixed it for ya!
JoeFann
April 27th, 2011
3:00 pm
So NOW we finally see what the Prez was hiding all along! He’s the son of Barack and Stanley. Certainly that explains his cuddly relationship with the GLBT superminority. And his refusal to defend DOMA. LOL! Here we go……….
hsn
April 27th, 2011
3:06 pm
Kyle,
The GOP leaders who tacitily or openly latched on to this issue include Bachmann, Steve King, Palin, Rep. Jean Schmidt, John Campbell, at al. Watch the rest of them here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NqEf4Xc2lFI
Please don’t try to DENY that the GOP leaders did not latch on to this issue. THEY EMBRACED IT !
Tech Man
April 27th, 2011
3:11 pm
hsn
April 27th, 2011
3:06 pm
Please don’t deny that Obama played it for all it was worth.
Deja Vu -not
April 27th, 2011
3:12 pm
One has to wonder –if it was this easy to produce it why wait and create the controversy in the first place? Can we now expect his college transcripts to be released?
gm
April 27th, 2011
3:14 pm
Chris Matthews
Anohter jealous idiot would you be saying this if Obama played football or Basketball? we have got to get rid of hicks out there like yourself. George W destroyed America and no quesions were asked, you people are a disgrace to Americans everywhere.
Al Sharpton
April 27th, 2011
3:16 pm
@ Sister Sarah -so you have some inside knowledge that NONE of the presidents had to produce their birth certificate? Or is it that none of them had any problem showing it to anyone who asked except for this moron?
hsn
April 27th, 2011
3:20 pm
Hey TechMan,
Obama showed the official doc that EVERY CITIZEN of Hawaii gets to apply for a US passport, get a job, etc. THIS WAS CERTIFIED BY THE STATE, yet the birthers wanted him to show something different than ANY OTHER CITIZEN OF Hawaii. They DID NOT WANT TO BELIEVE it because he was “different.” But you can’t say it, because that will mean you are “playing the race card.” So, how was Obama playing it all along? What else did you need, a placenta?
Nonesense!
Tech Man
April 27th, 2011
3:20 pm
gm
April 27th, 2011
3:14 pm
Obama did play basketball…
Genghis Khan
April 27th, 2011
3:20 pm
@ gm LOL George W destroyed America ? By himself LOL ? Here’s a clue from Civics 101 only Congress can propose and submit legislation. Only Congress can submit and approve spending. A prez can only approve or veto the legislation. And oh BTW the Democrats had control of Congress from 2007 -2011 you know when the economy and housing fell apart.