Sunday sales in Georgia? It’s really a simple question

I have a very simple test for Republican state senators sitting on the fence about Sunday sales of alcohol. It’s multiple choice:

a) vote for SB 10, which would allow counties or cities to put to their voters the issue of Sunday sales in stores (remember, alcohol can already be sold in restaurants, stadiums and “special entertainment districts” in many parts of Georgia); or

b) do not pass the buck to voters any longer on issues like taxation and spending (such as a one-cent sales tax for transportation), and do sponsor a bill to reinstitute a ban on all alcohol sales on Sunday, and possibly the rest of the week.

I really don’t see another option that has any kind of basis in logic, much less ideology or Scripture.

Me? I’m for “a.”

– By Kyle Wingfield

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I Report :-) You Whine :-( mmm, mmmm, mmmmm! Just sayin...

February 17th, 2011
5:39 am

If you cannot remember to buy your Sunday drinkage on Saturday then you do not need to be drinking in the first place, just sayin…

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The AJC fully understands that a screaming page two headline about Government Union Employees protesting budget cuts would make any normal person wretch in disgust, so we the readership get this instead-

Thousands protest cuts in Wisconsin budget-Urinal

Ever wonder why the AJC has to twist the news so much?

Independent

February 17th, 2011
6:32 am

How about a compromise? No Alcohol sold on Sundays and no Bibles sold on Wednesdays. Sounds fair to me.

ByteMe

February 17th, 2011
6:32 am

Libertarian wing of the Republican Party? Meet the Authoritarian wing. You guys have less in common than you think.

Mitch Seabaugh summed it up correctly:

”Unfortunately, a lot of times we use allowing local control to punt a difficult issue down the road. ….When you read the [state] constitution, we are – at the state Legislature – supposed to have the task of regulating alcohol sales. We should make that decision, I believe, one way or the other, for the entire state.”

In other words, when it’s a tough decision, the plantation owners should retain all the power. Except that they already punted the decision on purchasing alcohol in bars/restaurants to the poor minions.

BTW, I challenge any of the scripture-lovers to come up with the chapter and verse in the Bible that says you can buy alcohol in a bar or restaurant on Sunday, but you can’t buy it at Publix.

Monty

February 17th, 2011
7:11 am

The question is will Georgia Republicans show some spine and stand up for freedom or will they cave in and cower before the fascist christian taliban? Since conservatives have never been know for their bravery, I’m betting on the second option.

Thomas M

February 17th, 2011
8:14 am

You Whine- you don’t get it, time is so important that making a second trip to pick up a bottle of wine/ beer is a total waste of my time, gas, productivity- etc. I do all of my weekly shopping on Sunday afternoon at Public’s or Costco. To make an extra trip or stop on another day of the week for next Friday night’s dinner party is crazy in 2011.(have you ever stood in the costco check out on Saturday?) The conservative christians are a smoke screen for the real road block which is special interest/ lobbying by distribution and liquor industry that wants to maintain status quo. This is an economic issue on so many levels……….step up Republican Senators!

Road Scholar

February 17th, 2011
8:21 am

Stop liquor sales on Sunday(at stores or bars) and then tax the churches for being political lobbyists. That’s the deal! Non-profits- get real!

What if

February 17th, 2011
8:32 am

I like it, independent! But given it’s clear neither the Republicans (never to be confused with ‘conservative’) and the christians (small ‘c’ intended, not to be confused with Christians) are bound and determined that this be a totalitarian state and not a democracy, let’s go back to prohibition – both for booze and bibles. Just think of the mob profits to be had – -

Thomas

February 17th, 2011
8:44 am

carlosgvv

February 17th, 2011
8:45 am

“basis in logic”

This issue has nothing to do with logic. It is about catering to the far right who believe that scripture trumps logic and clear thinking every time. We are not always in last place for nothing.

jm

February 17th, 2011
8:47 am

Second that motion.

RJ

February 17th, 2011
8:50 am

These whacko Christians are no better than Jehova Witnesses. Their whole purpose in life is to impose their values onto other people. The hell they believe in should be equipped with a special VIP section just for them.

They are a bunch of Communist, Marxist, Socialist, government power loving lunatics…also known as Republicans.

Bryan G.

February 17th, 2011
9:01 am

The Tali-Baptists need to realize that “Separation of Church and State” is not a one way street. We’ll keep the government out of your churches if you keep your made up religious doctrine out of my liquor store.

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Wow!

February 17th, 2011
9:14 am

Wow! Bookman, Kyle and Bob Barr all agree on an issue – Sunday alcohol sales.

I wonder what Tucker thinks about this issue? Hopefully, she is researching to blog about the race angle to this issue (whatever that will be).

JF McNamara

February 17th, 2011
9:28 am

Kyle,

C. Allow Sunday liquor sales without a vote.

They are Republicans. They aren’t supposed to be interfering in my life or interfering with free markets. Currently, they are doing both.

tscali

February 17th, 2011
9:30 am

the people got a boob in the white house. it’s time to give them their booze on sunday. O-boob-O is driving the nation to drink.

StJ

February 17th, 2011
9:54 am

If you don’t believe in buying liquor on Sunday, don’t buy any. But leave the rest of us alone.

jconservative

February 17th, 2011
9:58 am

The believers in Big Government are alive and well in Georgia.

Don’t let the people decide, We The Government, know what is best for them.

Not So Casual Observer

February 17th, 2011
10:02 am

ACTUALLY, the original Blue Laws were brought to us by Democrats.

Mitch Seabaugh’s comment seemed to encourage the State Legislature to do their duty and control state-wide sales of alcohol. Do not pass the vote down to the voters – take a stand, make a vote so your constituents can agree or disagree and vote their values at the next election.

Our elected representatives should vote yes or no on Sunday sales. I personally stand on the side of freedom and see no difference in package sales in stores and by-the-drink sales in restaurants and my Baptist brethren should leave this alone.

DW

February 17th, 2011
10:10 am

This is like the solar eclipse of the AJC blogging world!! Everyone agrees on this issue. Lawmakers, please pull your heads out of your a$$es for a second and pass the f-ing bill already!

Richard

February 17th, 2011
10:12 am

Not so Casual Observer,

That’s technically true, except you’re forgetting that the two parties switched roles during Kennedy’s term. Today’s Democrats were yesterday’s Republicans.

1961_Boomer

February 17th, 2011
10:20 am

Mitch Seabaugh is an ass. Government gains it’s right to govern from the people. It is the PEOPLE’S… not the Georgia Legislature’s… right to choose to allow liquor sales.

Everyone needs to call this legislator and tell him/her simply: It is not YOUR right to decide the issue. It is the PEOPLE’S right. Let it go do a referendum.

Shut up... You whine.

February 17th, 2011
10:37 am

I report, You whine: It does not matter one freaking bit when I want to buy beer. It is my business and not yours. I am an adult and I do not need you or any other right wing extremists “Christian” running my life for me. Got it?

Richard

February 17th, 2011
10:43 am

The bill is dead. just got email confirmations from Senators Goggans and Gooch

Early

February 17th, 2011
10:54 am

Buy my Sunday beer on Saturday?

Inconvenient.

Atlantarama

February 17th, 2011
11:18 am

If religion is going to be so active in politics, it’s about time to start taxing the churches.

Cutty

February 17th, 2011
11:26 am

The General Assembly just tabled this bill for the rest of the session. Won’t even come up for a vote. What utter morons!!

Bryan G.

February 17th, 2011
11:36 am

What do Baptists have in common with the Taliban? They both oppress the freedom of the majority. Thanks a lot. G-d dammit.

Goldstein

February 17th, 2011
11:39 am

Actually, you shouldn’t buy beer on Saturday because that’s the Lord’s day.

Muhammed

February 17th, 2011
11:39 am

Actually, you should buy beer on Friday because that’s the Lord’s day.

Vanessa

February 17th, 2011
11:43 am

Report :-) You Whine :-( mmm, mmmm, mmmmm! Just sayin…

February 17th, 2011
5:39 am

If you cannot remember to buy your Sunday drinkage on Saturday then you do not need to be drinking in the first place, just sayin…

Who are you to tell me what I can do? If this is such a religious issue, then how come the church going people don’t attend church Monday-Saturday? Georgia is so behind, and its getting old!! I work hard for my money and pay my bills, I should be allowed to purchase a damn beer on Sunday. This religious crap is getting old, and they’re nothing but a bunch of fakes!!

Swede Atlanta

February 17th, 2011
11:49 am

Report on AJC now says pressure was mounting from socially conservative Republicans……….

Time to tax churches on the value of their property and their income.

Why can these same socially conversative Xtians go to a strip club on Sunday and get their jollies but an otherwise law-abiding citizen cannot go and buy a bottle of wine for dinner on Sunday?

Time for the Libertarian wing of the Republican party to flex its muscle.

Mike

February 17th, 2011
12:02 pm

What a bunch of cowards. This goes against everything the Republicans supposedly believe in. Why do you people keep voting these people into office? They get nothing accomplished except for non-sense bills. We all know Georgia Democrats are nothing more than moderate conservatives. The Republicans in this state are out of control and cater only to the extreme right.

DW

February 17th, 2011
12:04 pm

Bill killed by a bunch of backwoods, redneck idiots that will surely get re-elected for simply having an “R” behind their name. WEAK!

Aquagirl

February 17th, 2011
12:06 pm

For years the Republicans hid behind Sonny’s skirts, saying he’d veto any Sunday sales bill. Now they hide behind the caucus’ skirts so they don’t have to explain themselves.

Despite the whining, lawmakers know they won’t suffer any repercussions. They know it’s only important to bash Obama and pay lip service to “small government.” The social conservatives control the Republican party. They have for years. Fiscal and libertarian conservatives have trotted along like lemmings. Lazy, lazy people.

JESUS

February 17th, 2011
12:07 pm

Thanks to Wingnut and his nazi party Georgia has become even more of a nanny state! So much for smaller government you fools!

Poster Boy

February 17th, 2011
12:07 pm

To ‘I reports’ comment: If you cannot remember to buy your Sunday drinkage on Saturday…etc,etc,etc’ Why don’t we just close down the stores completely on Sunday? Surly you could buy EVERYTHING you need on Saturday. Lets close down ALL retail stores on Sundays. I think this is the right thing to do…if we are not buying booze on the Lord’s day. (I mean we shouldn’t be working either, right?)

I Know You Are But What Am I

February 17th, 2011
12:07 pm

Can’t we all just start a war so that Wingfield will be happy!

Nothing ever changes….
Republicans = Good
Democrats = Bad

Its putting me to sleep ! Zzzzz….

The next time KW says something bad about the Moral Majority will be the first time. He is nothing more than a shill.

…Just a few corrections to comments made on the CT blog.

Joe Schmoe

February 17th, 2011
12:08 pm

As a conservative/libertarian Tea Partier, this is the prime reason i am not a republican… They act just like Democrats, and want to dictate our lives… I am voting for Seabaugh no more.

freidenker

February 17th, 2011
12:11 pm

i will make an effort to ask all my xtian friends (and the number is dwindling) to explain this to me. i will also sugggest to every voter i know to vote out anyone who references religion as a means of acquiring your vote, plus vote out those who are unable to convince their colleagues of the ludicracy of no sunday sales. that’s a house cleaning! it’s not about religion it’s about other’s rights and xtion’s fears of losing control of their own. what a pathetic lot.

I Timothy 5:23
“Drink no longer water, but use a little wine for thy stomach’s sake and thine often infirmities.”

you’ll never hear them repeat that verse. yeah, i’ve read alot of the bible. it’s WHY i’m an atheist!

Ralph

February 17th, 2011
12:11 pm

Okay let me get this straight. I can’t buy a few beers at Kroger on Sunday, then go home, sit on my sofa, watch a ballgame in the comfortable and safety of my own home, but I can DRIVE to a bar, have a few beers, and then DRIVE home………MMMMMMMMM…….Sounds logical to me….

JP

February 17th, 2011
12:15 pm

Now that this is settle they can get to more imortant things like banning micro-chip insertions, letting Georgia pay for stuff with gold or silver, and banning Sharia (sp?) Law from our courts.

Seriously, the alcohol issue is minor compared to the problems we have in the state – I do support letting it be sold in stores on Sunday – the way this died illustrates the typical way our legislature works:

1) Say you are for something that has overwhelming support
2) Get rolled by special interests that represent the minority
3) Change your position without any explanation
4) Never bring it up again and hope the issue dies

I’d like to see the Senators explain with a straight face why the voters couldn’t decide this issue at a local level. Heck they passed a transportation bill last year that throws funding to the voters….

DW

February 17th, 2011
12:16 pm

Gotta love how these “small goverment” morons totally sh!t themselves every time the Christian coalition comes calling.

Free Market??? What Free Market??

February 17th, 2011
12:18 pm

Welcome to the fast paced world of Republican hypocrisy. Where the free market means only Monday through Saturday, “too much spending” means “except for that unwanted jet engine manufactured in my district”, and “activist judges” means “only when I disagree with them”. Oh the Hypocrisy…

JP

February 17th, 2011
12:25 pm

Too add on what to what I said – Dems (and I am a Dem) are just as hypocritical….

I Know You Are But What Am I

February 17th, 2011
12:25 pm

…and all of this done in the secrecy of chambers, without transparency, without personal accountability of the state senators involved, in contempt of the people. Then again, these folks know the lever will be pulled Republican no matter what they do, so what difference does it make anyway? The social agenda of the Republican Party is what alienates me from their ideology. Fiscal conservatism is a great pursuit; combine it with continued restrictions on my personal behavior, however, and this party is one to be rejected, not embraced.

Free Market??? What Free Market??

February 17th, 2011
12:31 pm

Of course our state Republicans are just taking their cue from our national Republican leaders. You know the ones – raising holy hell about Obama’s budget, deficit spending, how he doesn’t get it. yadda, yadda, yadda.

All the while failing to agree on any substantive proposal to address the deficit. While Obama plays Rope-A-Dope and waits for them to hang themselves. Just wait… the clock is ticking and the corner they have painted themselves into is getting tighter and tighter…

Wyle Kingfield

February 17th, 2011
12:32 pm

The LORD said no to drinking on Sunday and that is alright by me.
–for who so thowest drink the evil spirit, will surely wallow in everlasting lake of fire for ever and ever.
The choice is that simple. Our leaders need to hold strong to the LORD’S word.
Next should be getting cussing off of Television and more prayer in the grocery store.

Free Market??? What Free Market??

February 17th, 2011
12:34 pm

Wow. We really aren’t that far removed from the Taliban after all are we.

Mason

February 17th, 2011
12:38 pm

I just don’t understand why this even matters, if your religion says don’t drink on Sunday then just don’t buy it! I don’t get why people are being forced to have to stock up on saturday or drive to another state becuase of someone elses religion. Isn’t that what America was founded on? I did have high hopes that this would pass becuase conservitave christians would lose about 2/3’s of their vote becuase of red necks, but we don’t even get to vote on the matter. I guess “god” will always trump the people in the state of Georgia.