On Ted’s Montana-size carbon footprint . . . and mouth

Ed Driscoll has a nice, succinct take-down of Ted Turner’s recent rants about everyone adopting a one-child policy in light of our “life and death” fight against climate change:

If it’s life and death, then act that way, Ted. Time to retire the private jet. Since self-described climate experts have claimed that “meat [is] making global warming worse,” time to close the giant bison ranch and restaurants. There’s a stadium in Atlanta with your name on it. Demand that they disable their lights. Although you no longer own the TV networks you built, your word still likely carries some sway there as their founder. Demand that they go off the air and close down their Websites to eliminate their carbon footprint.

And it’s some footprint.

Here are seven more things I’d like to see, to prove that you’re serious about this “life and death” issue.

Because, to paraphrase the Professor, I’ll believe that global warming is a matter of life and death when the people who tell me that it’s a matter of life and death start to act that way themselves. (links original)

Now, you could apply that take-down to lots of limousine liberals. But this one is for Ted alone:

“Now the father of five, who has often publicly regretted having so many children, [Turner] wants to extend China’s policy to the rest of us.”

I wonder if the Ted’s kids — or his ex-wives — ever ask him which child he regrets the most?

– By Kyle Wingfield

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Howard

December 8th, 2010
10:47 am

Ted Turner and Jimmy Carter are two doddering old fools that I cannot believe are given any face or mike time on TV. Who takes anything they say the least bit serious anymore??

isaiah

December 8th, 2010
10:50 am

captain outrageous is the man!

JKL2

December 8th, 2010
11:07 am

Since self-described climate experts have claimed that “meat [is] making global warming worse

Al Gore says “What???” Big Al isn’t missing any meals. That’s the other guys problem.

Libby

December 8th, 2010
11:08 am

These hypocrites just want to make rules for the rest of us that they don’t have to follow.

JKL2

December 8th, 2010
11:08 am

A benefit of all this global warming is you don’t need a grill to BBQ anymore. Just throw the steak on the plate and it cooks itself.

isaiah

December 8th, 2010
11:12 am

Jimmy Carter represents what a Christian should be….

womens team

December 8th, 2010
11:59 am

Did you ever know how much do you contribute to the Carbon emissions while using your personal computer?

bo

December 8th, 2010
12:05 pm

Rich successful liberals can be a major pain in the arse. then again, maybe he’s just being provocative

Thurston B. Howell III

December 8th, 2010
12:06 pm

Ahh Magoo…you’ve done it again

reader2145

December 8th, 2010
12:09 pm

class envy: I always thought it was liberal ploy

Bubba

December 8th, 2010
12:11 pm

If a conservative doesn’t like guns, he doesn`t buy one. If a liberal doesn’t like guns, he wants all guns outlawed. If a conservative is a vegetarian , he doesn’t eat meat. If a liberal is a vegetarian, he wants all meat products banned for everyone. If a conservative is homosexual, he quietly leads his life. If a liberal is homosexual, he demands legislated respect. If a conservative is down-and-out, he thinks about how to better his situation. A liberal wonders who is going to take care of him. If a conservative doesn’t like a talk show host , he switches channels. Liberals demand that those they don’t like be shut down. If a conservative is a non-believer, he doesn’t go to church. A liberal non-believer wants any mention of God and religion silenced. (Unless it’s a foreign religion, of course!) If a conservative decides he needs health care, he goes about shopping for it, or may choose a job that provides it. A liberal demands that the rest of us pay for his. If a conservative reads this, he’ll forward it so his friends can have a good laugh. A liberal will delete it because he’s “offended”.

Bubba

December 8th, 2010
12:15 pm

Loved this quote from the AJC’s weather story this morning:

Burns pointed out that it was 73 degrees on Thanksgiving day and that climatologists had predicted a mild fall and winter.

“But, of course, we’re getting blasted,” he said. “It looks like it’s going to stay cold through Christmas.”

They can’t accurately predict the weather a few weeks in advance, but they want us to believe their doomsday predictions years down the road. LOL.

Thurston B. Howell III

December 8th, 2010
12:18 pm

hahahaha…that Bubba is so smart

Rafe Hollister

December 8th, 2010
12:23 pm

Teddy Ballgame proves that business sense and walking around sense are inversely related.

Jimma Cotter, what can you say, a desperate old geezer trying to reinvent a poor record.

Hank Reardon

December 8th, 2010
12:25 pm

Kyle,
Do you not believe that global warming is factual?
If not, have you ever done any research about it? Talked to any experts? I went to school for civil and environmental engineering and never once had a professor deny that it’s fact…all the while giving us scientifically proven data and statistics to corroborate and sharing results of personal research that is difficult to dispute.
If you do believe it’s true, why perpetuate the myth with this silliness? I agree Ted’s a hypocrite…he should put his money where his mouth is.
As much of a free market man as I am, unfortunately the damage the industrial revolution has done to our planet is undeniable and the costs of doing business have not included necessary recompense to our fragile planet in the form of mitigation. We all can make a difference, but this denial business is choosing ignorance, my friend, and only encourages other ignorant and lazy people to not do their part. It seems natural that conservatives would believe in conserving energy and resources. I do not understand why we/they fight it tooth and nail. Just because it’s always been done this way doesn’t mean it’s the best way…

Lt. Dan

December 8th, 2010
12:25 pm

Not sure I agree with the one-child/climate change connection but ZPG will have to be in our future at some point. That is unless some global catastrophe thins the population first. Anyone with a brain understands there will be a limit to how many humans the earth can sustain.

Rafe Hollister

December 8th, 2010
12:25 pm

Bubba

You are so correct, all fall I heard how this winter was going to be warmer and drier than normal. Wrong again, weather gurus.

Hank Reardon

December 8th, 2010
12:26 pm

Bubba, there is a difference between weather and climate. Think.

Wyle Kingfield

December 8th, 2010
12:31 pm

It’s the end of the Earth as we know it…and I feel fine!

kimmer

December 8th, 2010
12:32 pm

Uh oh ted. Looks like you gotta whack about four of your offspring. Which one are you going to spare?

Sid Farcas

December 8th, 2010
12:34 pm

We should have known Teddy was loopy when he married Jane. Think about it.
Bubba, good stuff and Hank their is not much difference between weather and climate. We control neither but, the liberals want us to think we do. Keep the earth clean and recycle but, don’t get stupid.

kevin

December 8th, 2010
12:37 pm

Bubba,

Your post is laughable. Yeah, conservatives are so opened minded and never want to deny legislation that extends freedoms/ rights. Let’s see, deny’s homosexuals rights – check. Deny women’s rights and roll back Roe v Wade – check. Integrate religion into public schools/ government – check. Universal support for the Patriot Act (the most freedom-thwarting legislation in the history of this country).

It’s funny that conservatives think something liking owning a gun should be a right extended to everyone, but that the basic healthcare needs of people should not be guaranteed. Yeah, that makes a whole hell of a lot of sense.

myother

December 8th, 2010
12:38 pm

I wish he’d move all his ugly billboards in GA and move them to his MO ranch. By the way, isn’t that why he moved to MO, too get away from all the ugly billboards?

PawPaw

December 8th, 2010
12:40 pm

Jane wants her own TV show & Ted wants one child per fam. they sure deserve each other

David

December 8th, 2010
12:41 pm

So am I to believe Democrats have hypocrites too?

Bubba

December 8th, 2010
12:42 pm

Dear Hank: Google Judith Curry. Then maybe you’ll think.

Bo

December 8th, 2010
12:42 pm

“I wish he’d move all his ugly billboards in GA and move them to his MO ranch. By the way, isn’t that why he moved to MO, too get away from all the ugly billboards?”

1. MO=Missouri

2. Billboards all over GA can be blamed on directly on your local legislator, most of which have gome out of theur way to support that ugly blight.

CJ

December 8th, 2010
12:43 pm

This piece reflects stupid on steroids.

We’re living through the hottest decade on record, what is likely to be the hottest year on record, Greenland and Antarctica are melting, glaciers are disappearing, and sea levels are rising.

But hey, I’ll believe that global warming is a matter of life and death when Ted Turner starts to act like it? Seriously?

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Flaws found in IPCC climate change report: “It is important to point out that these are flaws or shortcomings and not errors in the sense of previously publicised mistakes in the IPCC’s AR4 report, regarding Himalayan glaciers and potential flooding in the Netherlands. However, they are nevertheless significant flaws in that they result in a potential underestimation of the impact of global warming that is indicated by the science that was available at the time.”

http://www.reportingclimatescience.com/news-stories/article/more-flaws-found-in-ipcc-climate-change-report.html

Bubba

December 8th, 2010
12:43 pm

So Kevin, you think health care is a right?

Roekest

December 8th, 2010
12:44 pm

The hell with Ted! It’ll be a cold day in said place when I eat at another Ted’s again.

Rob

December 8th, 2010
12:44 pm

Claiming that the current cold snap is any indicator of how this winter will be is ridiculous. Winter has not started yet in case you did not realize it. Good reasoning skills there Bubba….

Bubba

December 8th, 2010
12:47 pm

Rob, the quote said “fall and winter.” I believe fall has started, in case you didn’t realize it.

kevin

December 8th, 2010
12:49 pm

Yes Bubba. I think that a humane society provides healthcare to all it’s citizens–just like the rest of the world does, sans conservatives in this country. I bet you would feel differently about healthcare if you were a helpless 7 year old with cancer whose parents had been laid off without money for healthcare. Or, are you suggesting that in that situation the parents, and not society, are morally culpable. If so, I think that’s absurd.

Bill Orvis White

December 8th, 2010
12:54 pm

There once was a guy named Adolph who engaged in population control and we know how the rest of that story turned out.

Ted and Jimmah are modern-day secular progressives who are shoving Socialist-Democrat European ideals down our throats.

Thank the Lord that neither are leaders today. If Jimmah got another term in office, we would all be speaking Arabic today.

God Bless,
Bill

Bubba

December 8th, 2010
12:55 pm

So, Kevin, if health care is a right, it has to be free, no? We don’t pay for rights. So who do you propose to provide these free services? Also, what level of health care satisfies these rights? Putting a band-aid on a cut is health care. Does that level suffice? Or does it include transplants? All for free, of course.

Mrs. Norris

December 8th, 2010
12:57 pm

Scoff all you want but the world is overpopulated and it cannot support an infinite number of humans. Nature has a way of controlling population through disease, war and starvation. We can make the decision to control our own population in a more humane way. I will not listen to environmentalists until they begin to advocate birth control. The only thing wrong with China’s policy is it’s mandated. It’s not a bad policy to promote.

Intown

December 8th, 2010
1:01 pm

Seriously Kyle? This was not a great “take-down” of Ted Turner. It was just another cuckoo rant. Putting the nutty things he says aside, Ted Turner is a great man who has done wonders for Atlanta and the State. Let’s just leave it at that rather than indulge in the age-old journalistic sport of making fun of stupid things Ted Turner says.

The Anti-Gnostic

December 8th, 2010
1:01 pm

kevin – the distinction is largely between those who believe only in negative rights (the right to be let alone, the principle of non-aggression) and those who believe in ‘positive’ rights (the right to medical care, food, social acceptance, etc.) The latter category extracts a cost which must be paid, and liberals, generally speaking, want everybody to pay it whereas conservatives, generally speaking, will tell you to pay your own freight. Obviously “liberal” and “conservative” are overbroad labels and I can think of many nominally “conservative” causes that amount to rent-seeking.

kevin

December 8th, 2010
1:02 pm

The government should pay for basic healthcare for all it’s citizens. If this means having to raise taxes, I am fine with that. However, our current healthcare system is one of the most inefficient in the world. We average 7K more per patient cost than any other country in the world while covering the fewest folks. If you want to see healthcare working, look at a country like Switzerland.

The Anti-Gnostic

December 8th, 2010
1:03 pm

Mrs. Norris

” I will not listen to environmentalists until they begin to advocate birth control.”

Likewise, I will not listen to environmentalists until they advocate restrictions on immigration.

AT

December 8th, 2010
1:05 pm

I’m penning my letter to Al Gore right now thanking him for solving global warming. It is really, really cold this morning and looks like it’s going to stay that way ’til Christmas. We owe him billions…

Bubba

December 8th, 2010
1:07 pm

So ‘basic health care’ is a right, but advanced health care isn’t? I’m confused.

Hank Reardon

December 8th, 2010
1:09 pm

bub,
googled her…so what?
she’s a believer
i agree that climatologists have some trust to earn back, but do you know exactly what the debate was about? the outcome and results are barely changed because of a couple of dummies.
again.
think.

and SID,
climate= atmospheric conditions patterns and tendencies over long periods of time
weather= current, recent, near future atmospheric conditions

the glaciers are indeed melting, and the average temps are indeed rising. google it, fellas.

it doesn’t necessarily mean that mother nature’s not just doing her thing. but chemistry tells us that the crap man spews into the atmosphere produces these reactions that lead to warmer temps.

if deniers could get out of denial by educating themselves just a little, then we could have a real conversation about just what can/should we do about it, as a species.

The Anti-Gnostic

December 8th, 2010
1:09 pm

kevin – the correct statement is, “If you want to see health care working, BE like Switzerland.” I don’t think I need to list the hundreds of ways in which the US can never be like Switzerland. I agree medical care in the US is broke and busted, but we are probably not going to agree on the reasons.

Ed Willis

December 8th, 2010
1:11 pm

Hank,
In the ’70s I was in school, with an Earth Science as my major, Class of ‘80, at that time the “experts” were concerned with the coming of a another Ice Age. By the mid ’80s Scientists were reversing themselves. Climatology is easy to predict in the past, Climate change is expected, the earth is dynamic, the next decaded who knows..your turn to think!

Bubba

December 8th, 2010
1:12 pm

Curry is a believer, but she also believes skeptics have made many valid points that should be explored, unlike most warmists.

kevin

December 8th, 2010
1:13 pm

The Anti-Gnostic,

Nice post. I understand the distinction between positive and negative rights, and the respective, stereotypical conservative and liberal views you lay out regarding them. However, I do not understand how someone who has been successful utilizing the system afforded to them in the US thinks that they owe nothing to that system–ultimately owing something to those who, for whatever reason, were unable to achieve the same success in that system.

The Anti-Gnostic

December 8th, 2010
1:15 pm

Hank – the premise that global warming rests upon is that an increase in a compound, CO2, that constitutes a tiny sliver of the atmosphere is more pivotal on climate than, say, nitrogen, water vapor, or the sun itself. You also mention glaciers. If they are melting due to AGW, then this implies a massive heat increase which the glaciers absorbed–think of a cold turkey in a hot oven–where from? how? It doesn’t pass the smell test, so your professors have to come up with all sorts of extruded mathematics and computer models to sell it to a gullible public and power-hungry government.

The Anti-Gnostic

December 8th, 2010
1:20 pm

kevin – I agree we owe something to our society, but representative democracy is a pretty fickle basis for the social contract. Very early in the process, the majority simply vote themselves transfer payments from the minority.

The Anti-Wooten

December 8th, 2010
1:26 pm

@The Anti-Gnostic 1:15:

Your post clearly indicates that, just like Lyle Wingnut, you have no idea what you’re talking about in re: climate change. Read something other than the Beck newsletter or Limbaugh Report.