The Democrat is Alice Rivlin, the former Clinton budget director who teamed up with Republican Pete Domenici to present a plan last week for tackling the budget deficit. Now, Rivlin is working with Rep. Paul Ryan (R., Wis.) to introduce a voucher system to privatize Medicare. From National Journal:
[Rivlin's plan is] very similar to Ryan’s “Roadmap for America’s Future” in that seniors would get lump-sum payments for the value of their Medicare benefits and use them to buy coverage in the private marketplace. The payments would climb slightly faster than consumer inflation, but they wouldn’t climb as fast as health care costs have been for decades. As a result, people now in their thirties would likely end up paying for a much bigger share of their health insurance when they retire than today’s seniors. On top of that, people now in their thirties would no longer even know how high their future out-of-pocket costs were likely to climb.
That’s why the idea has been such an anathema to Democrats, not to mention senior citizen groups like the AARP.
Though Rivlin’s approach wouldn’t slash Medicare spending as quickly as Ryan’s Roadmap, analysts say both plans would ultimately end Medicare as we know it.
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Rivlin has long backed the idea of a “premium support” program, which would keep traditional Medicare as the default for seniors but would charge them more out of pocket. Seniors who didn’t want to pay the higher premiums could take a voucher and enter a “Medicare Exchange,” similar to the health care exchanges being set up for uninsured people under the new health care law.
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Rivlin said her voucher plan is a blend of her premium support plan and Ryan’s Roadmap proposal. Rivlin cautioned that their voucher idea should be viewed more as a “concept” than a fully fleshed-out plan, and that they were still in the information-gathering stage. “It’s a first cut at whether we can agree on a set of principles,” Rivlin said. “We’re a long way from a bill.” … Rivlin, now with the Brookings Institution, said the pain would not be as acute as some might think, because seniors’ out-of-pocket costs would go down as managed care plans competed for their business. And no one could be turned away from the Medicare exchange.
The details would almost certainly change; setting the cutoff age at today’s 55-year-olds would probably be a tough political sell. Then again, perhaps today’s 55-year-olds understand that switching to a defined-contribution system for retirees’ health care may be the only way they receive anything close to the promised benefits for the rest of their lives. (Current Congressional Budget Office estimates peg the increase in Medicare spending between now and 2035, when today’s 55-year-olds will be 80, at more than 2 percent of GDP. By then, that should be around a half-trillion dollars.)
Demographic patterns make it clear that the intergenerational bargain is going to have to change sooner or later. As one of the 30-somethings referenced in the above article, I think paying less for my parents’ health care in retirement — while paying for more of my own, and therefore easing the burden on my own children — is a good trade. The devil will be in the details, but this is one of the conversations we must start having in earnest.
On a side note, how refreshing is it to hear a Beltway Democrat talk even a little bit about easing government out of an industry and letting the market work?
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RD
November 23rd, 2010
4:23 pm
I’m with you CJ.
And @JP, I would suggest looking at Germany. The sickness funds (aka insurance companies) are nonprofit comporations, all people are covered and their costs are much less than ours (I believe health care costs are less than 10% of their GDP compared to our upper teens). From what I’ve read, roughly 10% of a German’s income goes to your sickness fund.
RD
November 23rd, 2010
4:27 pm
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/sickaroundtheworld/interviews/lauterbach.html
There is a pretty informative Q&A about German health insurance there.
RD
November 23rd, 2010
4:30 pm
And I would love to see a source from the person that said Canadians pay 55% in taxes.
BS Aplenty
November 23rd, 2010
5:16 pm
RD, et al.
I’ll remind you that Fannie Mae was a publicly-traded company and GSE that tried to combine the best of the market-based approach along with implied government support. Certainly, the company was heavily regulated by the government. And look where they ended up – in government receivership.
You can have a healthcare solution that is a market-based and SUSTAINABLE or you can have a government managed/controlled/sponsored system that will INEVITABLY collapse. You can try to have it both ways but, as FNMA shows us, the GSE structure is subterfuge that turns into a government-run system. I am certain as the sun will rise tomorrow that is the goal for socialists.
No thanks.
No More Progressives!
November 23rd, 2010
5:33 pm
HDB
November 23rd, 2010
7:13 am
The problem is that the market doesn’t work effectively in health care without a downward driving force!!
That was a heckuva downward force at work when the Gub’mint bought those $900 toilet seats a few years ago.
Competition drives prices down. You usually learn that in Business 101.
Kyle Wingfield
November 23rd, 2010
5:40 pm
RD: If you’re really interested in the German health system, I recommend reading this: http://bit.ly/3YPOCF
The cost is actually more than 15 percent of gross income when you include employer contributions, which of course represent forgone wages. The German government actually recognizes that the system is in dire need of reforms, but effective reforms are considered political suicide because the people don’t want to see their benefits reduced.
Sound familiar?
Libby
November 23rd, 2010
5:43 pm
Here’s a novel idea – pay cash for medical expenditures.
Michael
November 23rd, 2010
8:19 pm
Privatizing Medicare doesn’t necessarily help anything. All that means is you’re throwing it off government books and onto private books. It’s the same as, for instance, if GM had just sold off its assets last year instead of going through the bailout and bankruptcy process. Had GM been sold off in pieces, GM would’ve reduced its debt. But that also means that there are no more GM cars and GM car owners would possibly be left out to dry.
This is the problem with privatization. Medicare and Social Security would likely have the same problems if you put them in private hands, maybe even more. Do we really want to throw these programs into the hands of for-profit entities, similar to how we do health care? If Medicare Inc. had invested its funds in derivatives that blew up in 2008, would Medicare be completely gone now?
The main problem with these two social programs is politicians and voters don’t want to sink more money into them even though people live longer now than they did decades ago. We are pretty much left with a combination of more money must be put in, fewer services must be expected, or people must live healthier and not need services as much.
Parliamentary death panels
November 24th, 2010
8:29 am
Look. If social medicine results in Kyle Wingfield being forced to take a spoonful of castor oil every four hours, like his mum must have insisted at some point during his infancy, and from which he rebeled into the confounding father of yellow-ditto’d journalism that he is today, then I can shout with pride out loud, “Obamacare now!”.
John
November 28th, 2010
4:23 pm
We should end all these entitlements. The legacy of the New Deal & the War On Poverty if left untouched, will be that of moral & fiscal bankruptcy. Out of wedlock births, crime & drug use have all climbed as a result of removing the real-world consequences of people’s actions-that is what gov’t programs do, they seek to end consequences.