Tea party’s challenge: Change what it means to compromise
The theme of this midterm election is clear: Stop the Obama-Pelosi-Reid agenda of big-big-bigger government now.
The irony is that, with Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid as one big possible exception, the largest projected losses for the Democrats are not in the most liberal wing of the party. The big losers will be among the Blue Dogs, the party’s self-described moderates.
And they’re going to lose because, while they barked loudly about checking the Dems’ more extreme impulses, in the end they always rolled over.
Many of the Republicans set to take their places are, or have been boosted by, tea partiers. They may not be moderates, but they are like the Blue Dogs in that, sooner or later, they will be asked to stand up for their principles — and against the majority in their own party.
That means they will have to work hard to avoid the Blue Dogs’ fate of submission and eventual irrelevance. And they can only do that by changing the language and currency of compromise.
Going into Tuesday, many tea partiers hold the very word “compromise” in contempt. They have built a phenomenal political movement on their resolute opposition to President Obama and the Democrats. They have also firmly warned the Republican establishment not to expect a return to the GOP’s business as usual.
Having risen from nowhere, they don’t plan to back away from either stance.
But political movements that don’t produce results also don’t survive very long. Simple math — along with Obama’s presence in the White House for two more years; six more years if the GOP blows it — suggests tea-party Republicans won’t have the votes to shrink Washington as they wish all at once.
That said, “compromise” doesn’t have to take the same forms that it historically has taken on Capitol Hill.
It does not have to be a vote for an earmark, or an expansion of government here for a reduction of government there.
It could be agreeing to cut spending first, and revisit tax rates later.
It could be a willingness to give up some popular tax deductions in exchange for reform that flattens and simplifies tax rates overall.
It could be agreeing to cut spending in areas they’d tend to protect — the defense budget comes to mind — in exchange for reductions in departments they’d prefer to target.
It could be a resolve to come together temporarily with anyone, even their ideological opposites, who is prepared to finally quash corporate-welfare programs such as farm subsidies for big agribusiness.
It could be the patience to prioritize the regulations that need the most urgent attention and relief, rather than taking a scattered approach to many areas all at once.
In all these areas and more, it could be moving more slowly than desired, as long as the direction is clear and the progress steady. And, of course, having the wisdom to know when to compromise in these ways and when not to budge.
This midterm election has become more of a national referendum than maybe any such contest before it. The flip side is that, two years from now, these congressional insurgents will be scrutinized like no other freshman class before them.
But they should take confidence from the fact that they overcame all odds, and a substantial smear campaign, to reach the threshold at which they now stand. If they do what’s right, the voters will stick with them in 2012.
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I Report (-: You Whine )-: mmm, mmmm, mmmmm! Just sayin...
October 29th, 2010
7:16 pm
Is it no surprise that the Urinal’s “Conservative” would suggest that we cut defense spending?
There is no compromising with America’s enemies, whether foreign or domestic, just sayin…
Allen
October 29th, 2010
7:18 pm
I think the article starts and ends on faulty premises. The President and the congressional Democrats consistently poll better than congressional Republicans. And midterm elections typically favor the outparty. So, it’s not clear that the theme of this election is revulsion at big government.
The Republicans are simply more energized.
Lil' Barry Bailout
October 29th, 2010
8:07 pm
If congressional Democrats are polling better than congressional Republicans, I guess the Dems will hold on to the house. Right, Allen?
Lil' Barry Bailout
October 29th, 2010
8:07 pm
And oh, by the way, our President Bush is polling better than the Idiot Messiah.
barking frog
October 29th, 2010
8:21 pm
The ‘Tea Party’ will not even be a Republican caucus.
HDB
October 29th, 2010
8:30 pm
The problem is that the word “compromise” has too many negative connotations with Republicans; the only ting they’ve desired is a return to policies that got us here in the first place!! Republicans NEED to change from a short-term, myopic point of view to a LONG-TERM, LONG RANGE point of view!! Many just don’t have that!!
I Report (-: You Whine )-: mmm, mmmm, mmmmm! Just sayin...
October 29th, 2010
9:26 pm
Oh, the liberals care about us!
How sweet.
Jennifer
October 29th, 2010
10:53 pm
Just for kicks and giggles I went to a Tea Party rally in Gwinnett tonight. What a joke, but I wasn’t giggling when I walked out. I learned nothing, but saw some frightening things. Watched Herman McCain frenzy a crowd and ridicule a young man after he asked an a question far superior to any of the other adults. On top of it all, a man asked “Minorities are mostly Democrats, is that because they are stupid, lazy, dumb or just uninformed ?” This group just frightens the bejebbies out of me.
Jennifer
October 29th, 2010
10:56 pm
Sorry, Herman Cain. Not McCain – although the stuff he was selling felt like it had been packaged by a fast food vendor.
Lil' Barry Bailout
October 29th, 2010
11:06 pm
HDB, ain’t no compromising with pure evil of the type represented by your Idiot Messiah!
DeborahinAthens
October 30th, 2010
7:11 am
The Tea Party candidates and those that stump for them are mostly idiots that can only parrot the catch phrases, like their goddess, Sarah Palin, does. I would encourage all of you to read the article about Sarah Palin in October’s “Vanity Fair”, also read the book, “Game Change”. I saw an excerpt of the debate that Christine O’Donnell had with her opponent where she belligerently said,”I wish someone would show me in the Constitution where it says there should be a separation of church and state.” Her opponent, looked at her like she was in idiot and proceeded to quote the First Amendment VERBATIM. She shut up for a few seconds, with that attempt-at-cute smile. God help us all. These people are idiots that, given power, will take this country back to the dark ages. As a woman, who knows so many bright, intelligent women, I have come to the conclusion, that the religious fundamentalist, right-wing creators of the Tea Party want to prove to their male dominated, anti-female base, that women cannot be trusted to do anything other than be barefoot and pregnant. That HAS to be the explanation. Otherwise why would McCain chose such a bimbo who now seems to have a shot at the Presidency? Why would an air-head like O’Donnell get financial backing and massive exposure by people like Sean Hannity? When you look at the people, PACs and corporations that are giving Palin and the others like her such incredible financial backing it seems likely the one thing they want is to split the Republican party into two factions. There will be three people vying for the Presidency in 2012. Palin will be one (gag a maggot!). No one will get over 50% of the vote, so the House will decide. Guess which party will be in control? Guess who will be the President? Yeah, the one that throws temper tantrums when she doesn’t get her bendy straws. The one that throws cans of food at her husband Todd. After she either fails miserably, and she will, or she will quit halfway through her term, the men in the fundamentalist ilk will say, “See, we told you women shouldn’t be President.” There will never be another female President in our lifetime. Sorry if this sounds off the wall, but I just don’t get it.
marko
October 30th, 2010
7:23 am
The Democrats losing their seats, as Kyle pointed out, will be conservative Democrats. The guy’s you’re replacing are the very guy’s you might have compromised With. The remaining liberal types, though smaller in number, will benefit from being more ideologically pure. In other words, no more Dimos. Ideological people don’t compromise. To compromise you need people capable of seeing two sides of an issue. Rid the world of Rinos and Dimos , and all you’ve got left is partisan stonewalling. Agree to raise taxes on the top 2% and you might get some serious spending cuts in return. On the other hand, see where my way or the highway gets you.
Southern Comfort
October 30th, 2010
7:25 am
Great post Kyle. Unfortunately, the people who need to hear that message the most will undoubtedly choose to ignore it.
Compromise has been a part of our government since it’s inception. The first attempt at a government under the Articles of Confederation was too weak. The founders did not want an overbearing central government so they intentionally weaked it’s role. They found that in their quest, they made it too weak to survive. They compromised with others who wanted a strong centralized government and we ended up with our Constitution.
There are some on the Right and Left who would sit down and compromise and deliver that “Constitution-like government”. However, the people in control are catering to the extremes. We would end up with another Articles of Confederation from one group and the other would give us a monarchy.
I just can’t wait for Nov 3rd. I’m tired of the campaign lunacy.
the wingnutzo party
October 30th, 2010
7:49 am
The Wingnutzi Party could take o’er the land of the free, and robo-monkeys could fly out of Liza Minelli’s butt, but more likely, the dems will hold on, barely.
If the Germans could have voted for a moderate, something in between Hindenberg and Hitler, say, I don’t know who, maybe, Nixon? then there would have been no axis of evil, but rather only a pacific war with Japan. (Japan would haved bombed Pearl Harbor instead of the Germans).
Thus voters on tuesday will remember the Tora Tora (the actual Jap battle cry used only two “toras”. Hollywood added the third tora, which was so memorably uttered by a little-known B-movi actor in credibility-straining Asian makeup by the name of Ronald Reagan.) True.
SO our Republic will survive, and not even witchcraft can keep us in the deep voodoo it took two Bush’s to get us stuck in.
THe only real danger to our republic is a third Bush. Hollywood campaign wizards will add him in later.
jconservative
October 30th, 2010
7:57 am
Nice column Kyle. And I agree completely.
The Tea Party types may be placing way to much trust in the current Republican congressional leadership. Remember it was just September that McConnell introduced his bill to extend the complete Bush tax cuts
with no provision for funding. He intends to borrow the money from China and Japan to give me a tax cut. That is the exact thing Obama did in 2009.
If it is just the same, I will pass on the tax cuts just to keep from borrowing against my grand kids paychecks.
Lets just cut the size of government. And if Defense spending is off the table then all that will happen is that we will be playing a game of pretend.
I really can’t wait to just sit and watch the first 6 months of the new congress starting in January.
Tyler Durden
October 30th, 2010
8:16 am
Cutting defense spending makes INCREDIBLE sense (not sarcasm, I assure you) but the GOP would never do it. The Liptonites also lack the cajones to challenge the lunatic fringe of the right, and that’s where all of the energy is coming from.
When it’s all said and done, the ‘baggers are just gonna make it easy for Obama to get reelected in ‘12…
Eric
October 30th, 2010
8:19 am
deborahinathens,
She will “fail miserably”
No Palin supporter here at all, but… worse than Barry? really? REALLY?
His every word and deed is the pure definition of failure.
When will he resign? After the vote of no confidence on Tuesday? When we are completely bankrupt?
Talk about somebody wanting a group of people to fail – who are the backers behind this idiot who want people to say that black people are just too stupid to govern?
Just saying…
Lil' Barry Bailout
October 30th, 2010
8:25 am
marko
7:23 am
The Democrats losing their seats, as Kyle pointed out, will be conservative Democrats. The guy’s you’re replacing are the very guy’s you might have compromised With.
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No, they’re the guys who rolled over whenever Pelosi needed their votes. They caved on their “principles”.
Geodude
October 30th, 2010
8:30 am
It seems like in the past two years, the Republicans idea of compromise was to vote no on any Democratic bill – every single one of them. And if you broke step with the party line, you may as well quit Congress because you will feel the full wrath of the Republican Party. If the Democrats had been able to act like that, they could have passed a government single-payer health care system two months after President Obama was elected (not that I favor that). They had the filibuster-proof majority. The sad thing is that the Republicans (or at least some of them) did not sit down with the Democrats to hammer out a REASONABLE health care reform bill. Maybe then we would have had a simpler version that contained tort reform.
interested observer
October 30th, 2010
8:33 am
I firmly expect the Tea Partiers to roll over on their principles when they’re subjected to the pressures and opportunities present in Washington. They’re largely ignorant of how government works and are unprepared for the atmosphere. They’ll be absorbed into the Republican Party in six weeks like a pebble tossed into a lake.
Lil' Barry Bailout
October 30th, 2010
8:37 am
Geodude, the Democrats couldn’t pass some of their more extreme schemes because they couldn’t convince their own members. As you point out, they had a filibuster-proof majority. And somehow this is the fault of Republicans?
Buzz G
October 30th, 2010
8:37 am
There are no conservatives in the Democratic party anymore. The party took a hard left back in the sixties. Ronald Reagan was right when he said he did not leave the Democratic party, but the party left him. The “blue dogs” are fake. They pretended to be conservative and talk conservative back home, but when they get to Washington, they nearly always vote liberal. Our country will be much better off without them. They are losing their jobs because a lot of people have finally figured out what a bunch of phonies they are.
Lil' Barry Bailout
October 30th, 2010
8:38 am
Long story short, the left wing of the Democrat party refused to compromise with the extreme left wing of the Democrat party.
Lil' Barry Bailout
October 30th, 2010
8:39 am
The Idiot Messiah failed to unite the liberal fascists in Congress with the Blue Dogs.
carlosgvv
October 30th, 2010
8:47 am
The only thing Republicans have to stand up for is Corporate America, their sponsors. It is Big Business that wants less and less government so they will have more and more of a free hand to make as much money as possible without all of those nasty regulations in place now. Times change but people don’t and predatory Capitalism is alive and well. Count on it.
Lil' Barry Bailout
October 30th, 2010
8:50 am
Guess what carlos? “Corporate America” doesn’t vote. American people vote.
Oops, forgot, we’re all a bunch of rubes voting against our own self interest. We’re consumed with greed and we vote against our own self interest. Makes perfect sense.
redneckbluedog
October 30th, 2010
9:30 am
Just goes to show..even a monkey will get it right every now and then…I think DC might be able to get to good, tough, immigration reform over the next two years and that’s probably about it…I don’t think the Bush tax cuts will be extended. The Dems will hold them hostage for tax cuts for the middle class but not the wealthy…at least I hope that’s what they do….
redneckbluedog
October 30th, 2010
9:35 am
Pretty good point, L’il Barry…I think you just vote how your dad voted with no depth of thought beyond each election…You can’t deny who has shipped the jobs overseas, nor who would sell this country to China in a second…cutting taxes for these people and avoiding the deficit makes no sense…
The President and the Democrats have done a good job. They tried to do what they promised in 2008. Aside from Maxine Waters and Charlie Rangel, they have been pretty well-behaved, too…Unlike Phil Gramm, Tom DeLay, Larry Craig, Mark Foley, and John Ensign…
carlosgvv
October 30th, 2010
9:38 am
Lil’Barry Bailout
If you don’t know what laissez faire means, look it up in the dictionary. Corporate America’s goal is to go back to the days of 12 hour workdays 6 days a week, no health insurance, no sick days, no vacation time and no worker’s Comp. Already some CEOs are talking about doing away with health insurance. Many workers today are complaining of having to work longer hours with no overtime pay. Your Tea Party is nothing more than a tool of Big Business and most of it’s followers don’t even realize it. Making fun of me and ignoring this will not make it go away.
Techfan
October 30th, 2010
9:44 am
Lil: Corporations might not have an actual vote, but most voters I know can’t write checks for a few million dollars to a candidate or cause, Nor can they buy a string of commercials to influence elections.
John
October 30th, 2010
9:55 am
What scares me is the Tea Party candidates and those backing them are so uninformed. They create their own facts. Case in point, Rachel Maddow was in Alaska trying to get an interview with Joe Miller. There were Joe Miller backing in front of his building holding political signs. Two of those people said they were fighting against Obama because Eric Holder was against guns and the 2nd amendment. She asked the first person (a young guy) what did Eric Holder do that was against guns. He was stumped and answered with “what has he not done against guns, that’s the question we should be asking”. She pressed him further since he made that charge. He then said check Eric’s voting record. Rachel responded that Mr. Holder is not an elected official; therefore, he has no voting record. The guy then admitted he didn’t know the facts but he knows Eric Holder is against guns. The second person (a woman), when asked what Eric Holder has done against guns, replied she doesn’t know the details, but she knows he’s against guns.
Left wing management
October 30th, 2010
9:56 am
“But they should take confidence from the fact that they overcame all odds, and a substantial smear campaign”
Sounds like you’re describing Obama ‘08.
“THe only real danger to our republic is a third Bush. Hollywood campaign wizards will add him in later.”
I agree. Bush restoration in ‘12 anyone? I think we’re in deeeeep vooodooo.
John
October 30th, 2010
10:06 am
Kyle,
Why wouldn’t you hold the Republicans and Tea Parties up to the same standards you hold the Democrats to. The policies started by Bush and Obama have got us out of the recession and the economy is growing. I understand it’s growing slowly but progress is being made. Of course, you think 2 years is long enough.
Take the same position with Republicans and Tea Partiers…if they do come into power and don’t make major changes in 2 years…vote them out of Congress. You expect quick changes by Democrats but advocate small, slow changes by Republicans.
Gator Joe
October 30th, 2010
10:07 am
It will be fascinating to hear and see lower and middle class whites’ reaction, who after voting for Tea Party candidates , discover these people are intellectually unprepared, inept, unqualified, and therefore unable to solve their problems. Their jobs will continue to move to China, the air they breathe will be more polluted, their workplaces will be less safe, and their health care will be at the mercy of private insurance companies whose primary concern is profit, just to name a few areas. The main beneficiaries of their votes are Big Oil, Big Business, and the very wealthy who used and will abuse them. Even Fox “News” will not be able to convince them they are better off.
muslim nucular bomb: muscular bombs
October 30th, 2010
10:13 am
A muslim nuke could be called a muscular bomb (if we were all idiot-malaprops like Bush was).
but then it wouldn’t be a smart bomb.
AmVet
October 30th, 2010
10:59 am
…discover these people are intellectually unprepared, inept, unqualified, and therefore unable to solve their problems.
The legacy of voting for the worst president in modern American history – George Walker Bush.
My gawd, it was patently obvious to anyone with their eyes open, that based on his performance in that 2000 campaign, he was WOEFULLY incapable of doing the job. And even given that, the Republirubes re-elected him for four more years of serial failures and impeachable offenses.
And I wish beyond wish, that I had been wrong about him…
John
October 30th, 2010
11:01 am
Mitch McConnell, the Senate minority leader has already warned us where we’re headed if Republicans take control of Congress.
“The single most important thing we want to achieve is for President Obama to be a one-term president,” Mr. McConnell said in an interview with National Journal.
Notice, it’s not the economy, it’s not jobs, it’s not health care, it’s not big government, it’s not the deficit…it’s to try to make Obama fail. How do you accomplish that? Do everything you can to make sure the country and the American people are worse off in 2 years than we are today. Take us backwards instead of forward.
This was not the words of Rush Limbaugh, Glen Beck or others in the right wing media…this was the leader of the Senate Republicans.
John Barnes
October 30th, 2010
12:09 pm
Another post from a Georgia windbag. Kyle, they are hiring at McDonalds. Your talents are best used there; leave the thinking to those who know what to do with a brain.
You expect a party of retards who only know how to block instead of do anything meaningful, to change anything about a country heading downhill?
retiredds
October 30th, 2010
12:15 pm
Kyle, there is a saying, “those who live by the sword, die by the sword”. If the TP folks refuse to compromise, they will fade into the history books as well wishers who couldn’t get the job (promises) done. I tend to agree with most of what you write with one exception. I would change the part of your sentence that reads: “the Obama-Pelosi-Reid agenda of big-big-bigger government”, to: “the LBJ-Reagan-Bush 1-Clinton-Bush II-Obama-Pelosi-Reid agenda of big-big-bigger government”. This move to bigger and bigger government, my young conservative writer, has been going on for many decades, but you have to be a student of history, and in particular the fiscal/monetary history of the U.S., to understand that. Our current fiscal and economic problems did not just materialize over the last two years. The current deficit dilemma would not be so harrowing if prior administrations and Congresses fiscal and economic track record had been more sane(and less expansive on the spending side). And, you know the other adage: those who don’t study or know history are doomed to repeat it.
Quite frankly I am (and have been over my almost 50 voting years) more inclined to favor a split representation between the Executive and Congressional branches of government. History suggests, with very few exceptions, that the worst policy decisions are made when both branches are of the same party. So I look forward to the Republicans, be they TP or otherwise, take over one or both branches of the Congress. Maybe then, we can see if they will be cooperative (bipartisan) or obstructionist. Time will tell. If the former prevails things will get done. It the latter prevails, nothing gets done and the American people get the shaft.
By the way my own personal view is that things won’t change radically as the US is more of a middle of the road political entity.
RW-(the original)
October 30th, 2010
12:22 pm
Compromise is a dangerous idea when one of the parties to the compromise calls themselves a “progressive” movement. With them the compromise never represents the final product it only outlines their new starting point for their next push and, of course, then you’re obligated to compromise from there since you’ve already set the pattern in motion.
Ayn Rant
October 30th, 2010
12:33 pm
The Tea Partiers know what they want: no more federal budget deficits, low taxes for everyone, no cuts in the federally mandated benefits they have come to expect, and lots of big bombs and rockets to defend us from the (expired) Soviet Union.They don’t know how that can be achieved; actually, it can’t. They cannot cite any specific cuts that would reduce the federal budget significantly (20% or more).
No one can compromise with them. There is no middle ground between nonsense and sense!
RW-(the original)
October 30th, 2010
12:33 pm
I bet I couldn’t start four out of five lines with the same word again if I tried all day.
Southern Comfort
October 30th, 2010
12:39 pm
RW
I’d say that not willing to compromise would be just as dangerous when one of the parties calls themselves “conservatives”. Conservative by nature means to rely on tried and true methods and not be overly open to changing the way you think or act. In this modern world, technology, for one, changes within a matter of months. The old tried and true can quickly become obselete in the blink of an eye. If you’re not willing to try new ways of doing things, you could find yourself going the way of the dodo’s.
I understand your point, and agree somewhat. Compromise can be bad, even dangerous, if it is not carefully moderated. The same could be said about alcohol, driving, and many other things.
Southern Comfort
October 30th, 2010
12:40 pm
RW @ 12:33
I didn’t notice that at first. That’s real cool!!!!
RW-(the original)
October 30th, 2010
12:46 pm
That’s real cool!!!!
On topic too!
SoCo,
No fair using real definitions for what political definitions have d/evolved into. One would think a progressive would be for progress if you use those real definitions, but the very first of the political progressives decided it was best for everyone if we segregated the government.
Southern Comfort
October 30th, 2010
12:52 pm
Ok… Unsportsmanlike Conduct on SoCo… intermingling political definitions… 15 yard penalty… repeat the down.
I’m just tired of the partisan hacking. At some point in time, the grown-ups have to become grown up and do what’s right for country. Even if that means doing something that you personally or your political party thinks is not completely the right thing to do.
RW-(the original)
October 30th, 2010
12:55 pm
SoCo,
If you’re tired of it make sure you don’t flip to WSB-TV for the next half hour or so.
John
October 30th, 2010
12:56 pm
RW
“Compromise is a dangerous idea when one of the parties to the compromise calls themselves a “progressive” movement. ”
You know, you’re right RW. Why would anyone want to compromise and take us backwards as a nation. You do know the opposite of “progressive” is “regressive”. In case you don’t know the meaning of regress, Merriam-Webster defines regress as “movement backward to a previous and especially worse or more primitive state or condition”. Is this what you really want, to move our country backward instead of forward?
When has progression become a bad word? I challenge you, walk up to your boss and tell him progression is a bad thing and that you’ve decided you would like to regress in your position. Tell your financial manager that instead of making money (progress), you want to loose money (regress). I doubt you’ll take that challenge.
RW-(the original)
October 30th, 2010
1:04 pm
Fifteen yard penalty on John too.
John,
I did just take your challenge about my boss. I looked in the mirror and told myself I was tired of people thinking political progressives wanted anything good for this country. It turns out I agreed with myself so I’m still employed.
@@
October 30th, 2010
1:25 pm
‘Ya know, Kyle…when you’ve got both Democrats and Republicans worried, you’re doing something right for a change. Rather than call it compromise, it should be called OverHaulingAll previous “solutions”.
I’m tired of politicians asking my principles to take a back seat to their “superior” judgment.
Thbbpppbt
John
October 30th, 2010
1:37 pm
Dang RW…how about a compromise? 7 1/2 yard penalty since you only took one of my challenges. The games not over yet.
@@
October 30th, 2010
1:44 pm
Oops! Was not talking about Kyle when inserting the words “you’ve” and “you’re”. I was talking about Tea Party candidates.
I’ve seen Democrats and Republicans alike question their qualifications.
CJ
October 30th, 2010
2:02 pm
“[Tea Partiers] have built a phenomenal political movement…”
Kudos to Kyle for the list of compromises that he proposed above. Conservatives aren’t really conservative when they plan to cut spending of programs here while growing spending over there (e.g., defense and farm subsidies). And conservatives aren’t conservative when tax cuts for big business and the wealthiest among us take precedence over a balanced budget. But if Republicans were willing to adopt the kind of compromises that Kyle listed, then I imagine that the left and right could find common ground. Unfortunately, I’m not optimistic.
With regard to the Tea Party phenomena, it is wholly media driven, as evidenced by Sarah Palin’s unearned celebrity and further reinforced by the turnout at today’s Stewart/Colbert rally. The fact is that liberals and moderates have been turning out to rallies by the tens of thousands over the course of the last couple of years (National Equality March: 200,000/One Nation 150,000) only to be dismissed by the media while two Tea Partiers crossing paths in the hallway of an assisted living facility receive widespread coverage.
Whatever happens on Tuesday, we’re in for a wild ride.
Rafe Hollister
October 30th, 2010
2:08 pm
Carlosgvv: You should be tending to your serfs in Venezuela or writing another book to give to your bud, Barry.
Compromise with a Dem means he writes the law as he wants and he asks you to vote for it. If you refuse, you are an obstructionist.
Anyone who wishes to cut DOD beyond the usual Fraud waste Abuse category, should revist the ramp up to the Korean War, when we couldn’t fight for two years because we had no functioning equipment and a small force. Also remember how Carter destroyed the Armed Forces to the point we couldn’t find 8 working helicopters to use to rescue the hostages.
Southern Comfort
October 30th, 2010
2:16 pm
RW
Took your advice. Got as far away from the tv as possible. That 1:04 is too funny!!!!
retiredds
October 30th, 2010
2:27 pm
Here is one of the definitions of “compromise” and is the one that I subscribe to:
a settlement of differences by mutual concessions; an agreement reached by adjustment of conflicting or opposing claims, principles, etc., by reciprocal modification of demands.
If neither parties (Republican, Tea Party, Democrat, Libertarian, Whig, et.al) can accept this definition(or something akin to it)and work with it, the US of A is doomed to partisan bickering, stagnation, and, eventually, the demise of democracy. Compromise is an art and is accomplished by persons of high intellectual, moral, and social standards. It is not, as some have hijacked it to mean, dangerous, weak, or foolish. If you don’t believe me go and read the papers of Jefferson, Madison, Hamilton, the Adamses, Patrick Henry, Daniel Webster, et. al. We have none today who can compare to their intellectual acuity and dedication to the founding of a great nation … and they practices the art of compromise. (Can you imagine any of today’s “entertainer” politicians having a debate with the gentlemen mentioned above? Today’s “entertainer” politicians wouldn’t get past the first sentence.)
Lil' Barry Bailout
October 30th, 2010
2:31 pm
Techfan
9:44 am
Corporations might not have an actual vote, but most voters I know can’t write checks for a few million dollars to a candidate or cause, Nor can they buy a string of commercials to influence elections.
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Do YOU vote based on commercials?
@@
October 30th, 2010
2:46 pm
Corporations might not have an actual vote, but most voters I know can’t write checks for a few million dollars to a candidate or cause, Nor can they buy a string of commercials to influence elections.
Can’t write checks? They can read, can’t they…..it’s the fine print at the bottom of the ad. Don’t take it at face value…..go online and research. Then ask yourself how they might benefit from the message.
It’s not THAT difficult.
Allen
October 30th, 2010
3:23 pm
Lil’ Barry Bailout: It’s a fact that Congressional Dems and Mr. Obama poll slightly better than Republicans these days.
But general polls are poor predictors of who will actually vote on election day. Republicans are highly energized, and I believe that they will turn out en masse and rack up the victories.
Linda
October 30th, 2010
3:25 pm
DeborahinAthens @ 7:11, Let me repeat O’Donnell’s question. Where does it say in the Constitution that there should be a separation of church & state?
My copy states that “Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof…”
The words, “separation of church & state,” were taken from a letter from Thomas Jefferson to the Connecticut Baptists.
The first amendment was to protect the people from the govt., not the govt. from the people. The govt. cannot establish a particular religion. It say absolutely nothing about the people being able to pay in public or in a govt. bldg.
Allen
October 30th, 2010
3:31 pm
Compromise implies shared sacrifice for shared gains. Kyle’s proposals don’t include any discernible Democratic priorities, and Kyle seems more open to compromise than much of the rhetoric from Republicans of any stripe suggests.
If this is what our more moderate, reasonable commentators envision as possible compromises, I doubt we will see much cooperation among the parties soon.
Republicans have (all but) won this election without offering policy alternatives — basically on a platform of “reject Democrats!” — and seem likely to govern in similar fashion. Any sort of bipartisan compromise would benefit Mr. Obama, and we’ve already heard that the #1 priority for Republicans is preventing his reelection.
I try to be optimistic about the prospects for compromise in education policy.
Not So Casual Observer
October 30th, 2010
3:32 pm
John @ 12:56,
Progression, or in the political sense, Progressive became a bad word when hijacked by Liberals to replace liberal. Liberal had become a pejorative.
There is nothing progressive about the current administration or the current Congress as the two have one goal – to take the US back to a time when citizens were slaves, slaves to government. The failed Soviet Union is an example. Chains and whips are only the physical means to slavery, while an unmanageable debt and overwhelming taxation achieve the same result without the need for barb wire fences and dogs.
Your 11:01 suggests Republicans’ wish to have Obama be a one term President is to make the country worse off in 2 years. Not so, the next two years will be a referendum on the Congress and the attempt to keep Obama from continuing his destruction of the US. Should Obama keep his pledge to veto legislation the American people see as a return to fiscal sanity, job creation, and stimulating the economy, then Obama will be a one term President.
Not So Casual Observer
October 30th, 2010
3:43 pm
@10:59,
You wrote:
“The legacy of voting for the worst president in modern American history – George Walker Bush.
My gawd, it was patently obvious to anyone with their eyes open, that based on his performance in that 2000 campaign, he was WOEFULLY incapable of doing the job.”
More correctly:
The legacy of voting for the worst president in modern American history – Barack Hussein Obama.
My gawd, it was patently obvious to anyone with their eyes open, that based on his performance in that 2008 campaign, he was WOEFULLY incapable of doing the job.
Obama has formed the most disturbing, and inept, Cabinet in history and the White House staff is either running, or being run, out of town at a rate any Liberal should find alarming. Adding his czars (what an appropriate term for Comrade O and his minions), just magnifies the lack of quality, lack of political savvy, and lack of intellect in this White House.
Jimmy Carter must be pinching himself every morning for the incredible luck the outcome of the 2008 election was for his legacy.
Not So Casual Observer
October 30th, 2010
3:47 pm
carlos @ 8:47,
Actually the Democrats, and Obama, have received the most campaign dollars from Wall Street.
Not So Casual Observer
October 30th, 2010
3:52 pm
DebinAthens,
You wrote:
“The Tea Party candidates and those that stump for them are mostly idiots that can only parrot the catch phrases, like their goddess, Sarah Palin, does.”
There is soooo much in this one sentence to attack but I will start with:
The Obama supporters who thought Palin was the Democrat VP candidate in 2008 when questioned during exit polls.
The same Obamatrons who thought Obama was opposed to abortion.
The same Obamtrons (hereafter TSO) who did not know the name of the President at the time.
TSO who did not recognize the name of Colin Powell.
And there was so much more.
RW-(the original)
October 30th, 2010
4:53 pm
SoCo,
That was a very wise move. It was pretty bad and even though I’m still going to vote for Monds on the first go ’round his only real quality attribute today was that he wasn’t one of the other two.
John,
The penalty was for mixing and matching definitions that don’t apply. Your second challenge was pretty lame and I was trying to be nice to you by not mentioning it, but if you insist the answer would be the same as for my employer.
Lil' Barry Bailout
October 30th, 2010
4:58 pm
Turns out Sean Hannity was right–the Idiot Messiah’s associations with racist preachers and domestic terrorists should have been a clear indication of his hatred for America. The Idiot Messiah sees it as his mission to make sure “America’s chickens come home to roost”.
Southern Comfort
October 30th, 2010
5:03 pm
RW
Thanks for the heads up. I’m thinking about leaving the governor’s position blank. I wonder if they would count my vote if I wrote in Yosemite Sam?
RW-(the original)
October 30th, 2010
5:08 pm
I wonder if they would count my vote if I wrote in Yosemite Sam?
SoCo,
They wouldn’t since he’s not registered as a write candidate, but it’s as good a protest vote as I’ve heard.
RW-(the original)
October 30th, 2010
5:19 pm
OH NO!!! Now you need to stay away from Fox-5. These guys are going at it again.
Southern Comfort
October 30th, 2010
5:22 pm
but it’s as good a protest vote as I’ve heard.
I was listening to CNN. They have a “none of the above” choice on their ballot. That’s what we need.
Southern Comfort
October 30th, 2010
5:25 pm
Listening to them debate has to be as much fun as listening to white noise. I’ll pass…
RW-(the original)
October 30th, 2010
5:26 pm
CNN has a ballot? Must be that Citizens United thing again.
/You are talking about Nevada aren’t yo
RW-(the original)
October 30th, 2010
5:30 pm
Never mind, I just saw that California has NOTA too.
RW-(the original)
October 30th, 2010
5:32 pm
YO
Where did the u? go in my 5:26
(IHB)
Southern Comfort
October 30th, 2010
5:32 pm
Oops. CNN was talking about Nevada having a NOTA choice… oops
Lil' Barry Bailout
October 30th, 2010
5:36 pm
NOTA is gutless.
RW-(the original)
October 30th, 2010
5:40 pm
I was just scanning a story before and it looks like California doesn’t really have NOTA.
vuduchld
October 30th, 2010
5:43 pm
With noncompoops like you calling for the “C word” I would suggest our President take a nuclear earth approach when dealing with these idioitc Teabeggers. I want him to use the veto pen at every turn, shutting down kooky proposals we know the near-do-wells will put forth. I also want these same Teabeggers to gut their own constiutents, you included. If they want to reduce debt, then begin with bloated programs in their own backyard and that includes their salaries and benefits. If these bottom feeders are so in love with “constititionalist principles” then they ought to work for free. They can’t run or hide anymore, either put up or shut up!
Southern Comfort
October 30th, 2010
5:46 pm
NOTA is gutless.
No. Voting for someone who you think will be an abyssmal failure is gutless. At some point you have to stand for something, or you will fall for anything.
Lil' Barry Bailout
October 30th, 2010
5:53 pm
Abysmal failure? I didn’t vote for Obama!
Ten percent unemployment.
RW-(the original)
October 30th, 2010
5:57 pm
Monds stepped up his game considerably in this Fox-5 debate.
Southern Comfort
October 30th, 2010
5:59 pm
Ten percent unemployment.
That means that 9 out of 10 are employed or under employed. Statistics can be twisted to push whatever position you want them to.
Southern Comfort
October 30th, 2010
6:00 pm
RW
Enough to garner a vote or should I stick with ol’ Yosemite?
Lil' Barry Bailout
October 30th, 2010
6:03 pm
You really oughtn’t mention underemployment or those who have given up. In that scenario, the Idiot Messiah and his failed trillion-dollar “stimulus” have delivered near 20% unemployment.
Southern Comfort
October 30th, 2010
6:08 pm
Didn’t mention those who gave up. Under employed still have a job. Therefore, they would not count as UNemployed. The unemployment numbers came in under two different administrations, so I’m guessing you mean “Idiot Messiah” for both Obama and Bush, right?
RW-(the original)
October 30th, 2010
6:18 pm
SoCo,
I think he earned a vote. It’ll at least force the other two to battle it out for another month. Maybe by then Barnes will figure out that he didn’t just voluntarily leave the Governors office the last time.
Southern Comfort
October 30th, 2010
6:24 pm
RW
Thanks for the heads up. If I wasn’t so dissatisfied with the choices, I would have early voted already. I’ll have to save Yosemite for later (hopefully that later won’t happen).
rj
October 30th, 2010
8:32 pm
Very simply put, this election is a referendum on Obama and the supportive members of Congress.
Lil' Barry Bailout
October 30th, 2010
8:39 pm
Actually, no. One of the two presidents you named have produced unemployment that has been higher in EVERY month if his administration than in ANY month of the other administration.
The Idiot Messiah is the one who’s presided over higher and more chronic unemployment, and spent a trillion dollars borrowed from China in producing such stellar results.
Idiot Messiah: Fail.
Eve of Destruction? « The Georgia Column
October 30th, 2010
9:14 pm
[...] AJC’s Kyle Wingfield writes that “[Tea Party candidates] are like the Blue Dogs in that, sooner or later, they will be asked [...]
just me
October 30th, 2010
11:09 pm
Anybody bother to tell “Lil Barry Bailout” that the first bailout was completed while Bush was in office (and he was in full agreement). The short memories of Republicans and neoconservatives is chilling. Reagan and Nixon would be ashamed of today’s Republican party.
John Franklin (JF) McNamara
October 31st, 2010
12:18 am
“If they do what’s right, the voters will stick with them in 2012.”
Classic…the lawmakers in power for the last two years thought they were doing what was right. Making decision in what were termed to be dire times, they got us through the storm. Aside from Healthcare, they made decisions that helped guide our economy out of the biggest recession since the great depression.
What do they get for it? Elected out because Republicans are angry that Obama is President and they could only get the economy growing slowly. I only wish doing the right thing got you elected.
If you haven’t been paying attention, getting your base the scaredest and maddest, getting the cruelest propaganda out there even if its not factual, getting plenty of funding and advo dollars from big business to do whatever they say, and catering to people who are fringe racist wins. That’s been the Republican playbook, and sadly, it worked. I’ll bet a lot of those who did the right thing, helped stabilize our country, and are facing losses are pretty irritated by your last line.
Lil' Barry Bailout
October 31st, 2010
6:51 am
just me
11:09 pm
—————————————-
Reagan might indeed by ashamed of 2006’s Republican party–they gave us too much spending and too much government (although nothing like the Idiot Messiah and the Democrats from 2006-present).
We’ll see what our President Reagan might have thought about 2010’s Republican party beginning in January.
Lil' Barry Bailout
October 31st, 2010
6:57 am
John Franklin (JF) McNamara
12:18 am
I only wish doing the right thing got you elected.
—————————————–
Ten percent unemployment, a health care overhaul that requires everyone to fork over to the big insurance companies, keeping Gitmo open, continuing Bush’s two wars going (escalating one), and trillion dollar deficits are the “right thing”?
Lil' Barry Bailout
October 31st, 2010
7:51 am
BTW, just me, since you’re so interested in what our President Reagan might think, what do you suppose He would think of today’s DEMOCRAT party?
CJ
October 31st, 2010
9:30 am
CBS News did an analysis of the Stewart/Colbert crowd and estimated that 215,000 people were on hand. The network relied on the same company to estimate the crowd size at Glenn Beck’s event in August, and found 87,000 people.
metoo
October 31st, 2010
10:39 am
Republicans talk big, but Gwinnett county is proof they are a bunch of losers.
hryder
October 31st, 2010
10:58 am
Far too many politicos believe that compromise is something that is for their opposition, the Big “O”, being a primary example. He will not even truely compromise with the majority of the American voters, nor will Pelosi or Reid. This is why the mentioned triad needs to be removed from their respective offices via balloting as soon as possible. Remember that as the leader of the majority in either the Senate or House one is to lead with a national view, not personal, district, or even state agenda. Not one of the three beings mentioned has followed the expressed desires of the vast majority of the legally registered voters of The United States during the last fourteen months!
Michael H. Smith
October 31st, 2010
11:34 am
Only time will tell in which direction the politicians will take us and the country Kyle. One poll observed said 65% of Americans want to replace the entire present Congress altogether. Neither political party, Democrat or Republican, should take much solace from that news.
Whether the Tea Party movement evolves into a viable political party depends mostly on what these Republicans (closet libertarian) likely to take control of Congress will do after the election.
Jobs (the creation of living wage private sector non-union jobs) and government spending will remain atop the American people’s agenda. If the rest of America feels as I do, then we have COMPROMISED and have all been COMPRISED to no reasonable end.
Tea Party or no… If the Repub-libertarian don’t reform of their George Bush ways, a new political party will emerge.
No More Progressives!
October 31st, 2010
12:57 pm
vuduchild
“If they want to reduce debt, then begin with bloated programs in their own backyard and that includes their salaries and benefits.”
Name one or two bloated programs and enlighten the rest of us.
TjAtl
October 31st, 2010
1:27 pm
Google “groupthink” and you’ll get a definition of what is happening at both ends of the spectrum, but is particularly pronounced among the Tea Partiers and conservative “purists”.
Groupthink is a phenomenon born in the absence of considering dissenting opinions, and is blamed for such fiascoes as the Bay of Pigs.
Symptoms of groupthink (Irving Janis 1977):
1. Illusions of invulnerability creating excessive optimism and encouraging risk taking.
2. Rationalizing warnings that might challenge the group’s assumptions.
3. Unquestioned belief in the morality of the group, causing members to ignore the consequences of their actions.
4. Stereotyping those who are opposed to the group as weak, evil, biased, spiteful, disfigured, impotent, or stupid.
5. Direct pressure to conform placed on any member who questions the group, couched in terms of “disloyalty”.
6. Self censorship of ideas that deviate from the apparent group consensus.
7. Illusions of unanimity among group members, silence is viewed as agreement.
8. Mind guards — self-appointed members who shield the group from dissenting information.
Drew
October 31st, 2010
2:05 pm
All the Tea-Party is essentially, is a coalition of people who will fire anyone who is a mere politician instead of a representative. The Tea Party has endorsed democrats and republicans. If those elected this cycle become more of the same, the tea party (AKA: We the people) have strong enough of a coalition now to vote them out right away. Enough political talking points; we need action to help our economy, reduce unemployment and to make productive changes!
With that being said, if you don’t like mandated socialist health care, higher unemployment and deficit spending on pace that makes Bush look like a fiscal conservative… than it might be wise to vote GOP
Drew
October 31st, 2010
2:08 pm
Oh brother a liberal calling Tea Partiers, “group thinkers”. Remember “Yes We Can” and all of those slogans that helped elect an incompetent, inexperienced President? If that isn’t “group think” by an emotional, not logical, mass than group think doesn’t exist!
Lil' Barry Bailout
October 31st, 2010
2:30 pm
TjAtl
Google “groupthink” and you’ll get a definition of what is happening at both ends of the spectrum, but is particularly pronounced among the Tea Partiers and conservative “purists”.Symptoms of groupthink (Irving Janis 1977):
1. Illusions of invulnerability creating excessive optimism and encouraging risk taking. (”Elections have consequences. I won”–Idiot Messiah)
2. Rationalizing warnings that might challenge the group’s assumptions. (”We have to pass the bill to find out what’s in it”–Nancy Pelosi)
3. Unquestioned belief in the morality of the group, causing members to ignore the consequences of their actions. (Passing an unpopular health care bill)
4. Stereotyping those who are opposed to the group as weak, evil, biased, spiteful, disfigured, impotent, or stupid. (Libbtards reaction to Tea Party folks)
5. Direct pressure to conform placed on any member who questions the group, couched in terms of “disloyalty”. (Bye bye Blue Dog Democrats who sold out their principles)
6. Self censorship of ideas that deviate from the apparent group consensus. (Seen any pro-life Democrats in Congress lately?)
7. Illusions of unanimity among group members, silence is viewed as agreement.
8. Mind guards — self-appointed members who shield the group from dissenting information. (The Idiot Messiah’s many unelected, unvetted czars)
TjAtl
October 31st, 2010
3:14 pm
Notice I did say that it takes place at BOTH ends, and is equally unproductive. However, I do not see an equivalent “purity purge” taking place on the left as is occurring with the conservatives.
– So quick to throw the label “liberal”. It doesn’t describe me.
TjAtl
October 31st, 2010
3:23 pm
Lil Barry — re: #5
Blue Dogs who may lose in this election will be losing to Republicans, not purged by their own party.
Many of them represent constituencies who are more moderate, or that have been trending more Republican over the years.
No More Progressives!
October 31st, 2010
4:58 pm
Many of them represent constituencies who are more moderate, or that have been trending more Republican over the years.
The American electorate is far more savy and informed with the advent of the internet. No longer do the lefties have a strangle-hold on what we’re told and by who. The Country is center-right, and has been for many years, This awakening is overdue, by some accounts, but welcomed none the less. The trending mentioned may have dormant for some time, but it’s about to rear it’s head this Tuesday. “We, the People,” not me, the president.
Southern Comfort
October 31st, 2010
5:05 pm
Actually, no. One of the two presidents you named have produced unemployment that has been higher in EVERY month if his administration than in ANY month of the other administration.
http://i481.photobucket.com/albums/rr172/loozers/jobs.jpg
How quickly does that short-term memory loss kick in? If you remember back, Bush was losing jobs like water going down the drain of a bathtub. Both Administrations have lost jobs. Not just one. Simple answers for simple minds. Too bad life isn’t that simple or we would not have had to suffer a complete meltdown of the economy.
No More Progressives!
October 31st, 2010
6:52 pm
Too bad life isn’t that simple or we would not have had to suffer a complete meltdown of the economy.
If a dim bulb like Barney Fwank can be traced back to the lending fiasco, who’s really running the show?
And by the way, GDP was 2% last quarter. I thought this was the summer of recovery?
Southern Comfort
October 31st, 2010
7:21 pm
And by the way, GDP was 2% last quarter. I thought this was the summer of recovery?
2% is growth. It might not be what people want, but I’ll take 2% over -2% anyday. If you’re expecting a quick recovery, you’ll find the Easter Bunny first.
I Report (-: You Whine )-: mmm, mmmm, mmmmm! Just sayin...
October 31st, 2010
7:26 pm
Bomb Sniffer!
2% is as lame as it gets. It surprises me none that you are satisfied with this, after all, you have a fat pointless government job, so why worry over the plight of the working man? Let them eat their cake, right?
Southern Comfort
October 31st, 2010
7:36 pm
Whiner…
The more things change, the more sour you get. You’re going to die of an aneurism or something. I didn’t say I was satisfied with 2%, so don’t put words into my mouth to try to fit your narrowmindedness. If our government hadn’t allowed our economy to be pillaged over the last 20-30 years in search of “neverending profits”, we would have industry capable of pulling us thru recovery.
My job is so fat and pointless that I wear body armor to work, and avoid most all social networking to avoid family or friends being associated with me. I do my job so that the working man can work. Any time you want to come suit up with us, let me know.
I Report (-: You Whine )-: mmm, mmmm, mmmmm! Just sayin...
October 31st, 2010
7:42 pm
Dude- You could ride in a tank for all I care. How many little old ladies did you stomp on today? How many children did you run through the xray machine? I don’t even think you are allowed to mess with our enemies, that would be discrimination.
We could outsource your job to the freshman class at William and Mary, except they’d probably take a pass on hassling innocent people as make busy work.
Southern Comfort
October 31st, 2010
7:45 pm
Haaaa haaa.. You should be a comedian, but you’d probably be just as lame at that as you are trying to be an internet bully. You don’t have a clue as to what I do, so how do you know where my job can be outsourced to?
Just stick to what you do best. Grumble and groan…
I Report (-: You Whine )-: mmm, mmmm, mmmmm! Just sayin...
October 31st, 2010
7:50 pm
SC- So the klownshow that is the TSA is like a front for the real work that goes on behind the scenes?
Tell me it’s true.
I dread the day some third world bozo gets caught with a stick of dynamite up his butt, our brilliant government will be spreading all of our cheeks when we get on the flight.
Southern Comfort
October 31st, 2010
7:57 pm
Be careful of what you ask for… You just might get it.
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2009/09/28/eveningnews/main5347847.shtml
To get his bomb into this room, Abdullah Asieri, one of Saudi Arabia’s most wanted men, avoided detection by two sets of airport security including metal detectors and palace security. He spent 30 hours in the close company of the prince’s own secret service agents – all without anyone suspecting a thing.
How did he do it?
Taking a trick from the narcotics trade – which has long smuggled drugs in body cavities – Asieri had a pound of high explosives, plus a detonator inserted in his rectum.
That happened back in 2009, yet I haven’t heard one person having to spread their cheeks. You really don’t have a clue as to what goes on around you. Good thing that there are people who are watching out for you.
Southern Comfort
October 31st, 2010
8:01 pm
So the klownshow that is the TSA is like a front for the real work that goes on behind the scenes?
There’s so much that goes on, if you’re focused on TSA, that’s like looking at a drop of water in the ocean.
I Report (-: You Whine )-: mmm, mmmm, mmmmm! Just sayin...
October 31st, 2010
8:07 pm
Be careful, SC, the last few bomb plots in the United States were foiled by people like…….me.
Just sayin….
~~~~~
If you want to sum up what it is all about, listen to Ron Johnson, Wisconsin’s newest Senator-
And unfortunately in my lifetime, what I have witnessed has been a very slow but sure drift, and I would argue in the last 18 months just a lurch, toward a culture of entitlement and dependency. It’s not an America I recognize. It’s not an America that works.”
“America is exceptional, and that’s being squandered,” Johnson concludes. “So if there’s one little phrase that tells you why I chose this path, I decided to run for the U.S. Senate because I think we’re losing America. I don’t think that’s overdramatic. I don’t think I’m overstating the case. And I’m just a guy from Oshkosh, a husband and a father. We’re a group of people who refuse, absolutely refuse, to let America go without a knock-down, drag-out fight.”
Meanwhile, Russ Feingold works to give it all away.
Change is a comin, baby.
Southern Comfort
October 31st, 2010
8:26 pm
Be careful, SC, the last few bomb plots in the United States were foiled by people like…….me.
It’s all about being one as a nation. The 2nd Amendment also helps… Especially when you never know who’s armed to the teeth. DHS doesn’t have the manpower to be everywhere at all times, but we always appreciate the extra eyes.
Algonquin j. Calhoun
October 31st, 2010
8:29 pm
You mean if they do what’s white don’t you?
killerj
October 31st, 2010
8:36 pm
What an opinion,I feel sorry for you young man,you truly do not know what it takes to be free of tendency or self indulgence for profit or control over another,I,ll call you a media minion.You suck, Go Tea Party.
Ray
October 31st, 2010
8:41 pm
“And unfortunately in my lifetime, what I have witnessed has been a very slow but sure drift, and I would argue in the last 18 months just a lurch, toward a culture of entitlement and dependency. It’s not an America I recognize. It’s not an America that works.”
And this rationalization for being an anti-Jesus, selfish pr!ck conveniently costs no money – a green light to give fellow Americans the finger and still sleep at night.
Who needs al qaeda when you have the 2010 version of ‘conservative’ right here at home?
I Report (-: You Whine )-: mmm, mmmm, mmmmm! Just sayin...
October 31st, 2010
8:45 pm
There’s an awful lot of witches out there tonight, just sayin…
Lil' Barry Bailout
October 31st, 2010
8:50 pm
Southern Comfort
5:05 pm
Both Administrations have lost jobs. Not just one. Simple answers for simple minds.
——————————-
Be that as it may, my statement stands unchallenged. Unemployment has been higher EVERY month of the Idiot Messiah regime than it was during ANY month of our President Bush’s eight years.
Ten percent unemployment: Only on the Idiot Messiah’s watch.
Ray
October 31st, 2010
8:50 pm
I wonder if any of those lowly people the right likes to pi$$ on are decedents of veterans who’ve lost lives for this Great Country?
Oh, that’s right, in the GOP manual the military is just free labor
Ray
October 31st, 2010
8:55 pm
“Be that as it may, my statement stands unchallenged. Unemployment has been higher EVERY month of the Idiot Messiah regime than it was during ANY month of our President Bush’s eight years.”
That’a right, simpleton, the car’s gas mileage ain’t too good after it’s been wrapped around a pole.
And just how long should it have taken us to walk normal after the rightwing bent us over worse than bin laden?
Moron…you girls just can’t stand the thought of the Kenyan showing your lily white trash silver spoon arses how it’s done
Lil' Barry Bailout
October 31st, 2010
10:08 pm
How what’s done? Blowing through a trillion bucks of borrowed “stimulus” cash while INCREASING unemployment?
No More Progressives!
November 1st, 2010
6:29 am
2% is growth. It might not be what people want, but I’ll take 2% over -2% anyday. If you’re expecting a quick recovery, you’ll find the Easter Bunny first.
2% growth with continuing job loss numbers, and a looming tax increase that will cripple this nation. Great planning. But I admire your optimism.
Throw some more chairs off the Titanic.
No More Progressives!
November 1st, 2010
6:32 am
Moron…you girls just can’t stand the thought of the Kenyan showing your lily white trash silver spoon arses how it’s done.
How what’s done?
Your hero King Barry the Magnanimous hasn’t showed me (and many others) much of anything. What he has shown is that amatuer activists should not be given OJT in the White House.
No More Progressives!
November 1st, 2010
6:33 am
And I’ll ask Ray; how do you know I’m white?
A little presumptious, perhaps?
I Report (-: You Whine )-: mmm, mmmm, mmmmm! Just sayin...
November 1st, 2010
6:40 am
Something else accounts for Mr. Rubio’s rise from a blip in polls against the popular governor in his party, to the runaway favorite tomorrow. He appealed as a different sort of Republican. He kept his pitch upbeat, shunned personal attacks, worked hard to widen support without apologizing for his conservatism, and more noticeably than anyone in this race ran on an unabashed and constantly invoked faith in American exceptionalism.
Which of course means that the left wing goon squad will spend the next two years calling him a racist and neanderthal.
It’s easier than debating his politics…
muslim nucular bomb: muscular bombs
November 1st, 2010
7:13 am
Kyle, dabbit: The problem was never big government, it was zig government, (zig-heil government, that is).
Zeig. Heil!
Run Forrest
November 1st, 2010
8:13 am
Compromise with a progressive liberal is for you to give up your traditions and beliefs and accept theirs. The constitution can be changed by whatever sexual mood the liberals are in at the time. Judges make law that could never pass in congress. Only government can make money and run things. Is this the compromise conservatives face? The repulbicans should continue to be the party of “know” until the democracts rid their party of the progressive liberals.
A Hearty Cheese Sauce
November 1st, 2010
9:49 am
Doesnt matter. Come tomorrow the Dems are in the toilet with their beloved Master Obama. Anyone see the rally where obama was heckled about Aids contributions? How unprofessional of him to chastise the hecklers…he shouldve ignored them.
Obama is to unpresidential.
Jefferson
November 1st, 2010
11:13 am
Reagan’s budget director said you couldn’t put them in a room with the penalty of death and they couldn’t come up with 50 billion in cuts, they would have to cut over 100 billion a year for ten years to come close. He knows and said revenue must increase and its foolish to think otherwise. Adios tax cuts.
Lil' Barry Bailout
November 1st, 2010
5:51 pm
Baloney. The Heritage Foundation published a list of common sense budget reductions that would cut more than $300 billion a year.
http://www.heritage.org/research/reports/2010/10/how-to-cut-343-billion-from-the-federal-budget