Whatever you think of the cheating scandal in Atlanta Public Schools, the system will probably need a new superintendent when Beverly Hall’s contract expires next summer. All indications are that Hall will leave then on her own, if she isn’t pushed out before.
For once, there’s a good solution waiting in Washington.
Her name is Michelle Rhee, and she’s been chancellor of the District of Columbia’s public schools for three years. Now, her tenure may be coming to an abrupt end after her sponsor, Mayor Adrian Fenty, lost his re-election bid earlier this month.
Let APS board members waste no time before trying to recruit her here.
Rhee is just 40 years old, but already she has built an impressive record of tackling the stasis that cripples too many public schools.
Most famously, last spring she fired 241 ineffective teachers, or about 5 percent of the district’s total, and put hundreds more on notice. She evaluated these teachers not just on whether students passed standardized tests but whether they made satisfactory progress.
That’s a fair way to refine the use of tests to judge teachers’ effectiveness, while still making clear that students’ results are ultimately what counts.
“This idea of no excuses, we’re going to raise expectations and standards and change the culture, I think that’s happening in D.C. and I think she deserves credit for that,” says Kevin Chavous, chairman of the reform-minded Black Alliance for Educational Options.
Some of those same notions of raising expectations and standards are already at work in APS, although the cheating scandal threatens to derail them. Right or wrong, Hall will always bear the stain of that scandal, but she has a worthy broader vision for improving urban education. That vision seems to fit well with Rhee’s.
So, Rhee wouldn’t be starting from scratch here. And because she had only three years in D.C. to pursue her reforms, the work-in-progress APS offers her a unique opportunity to continue proving that they work.
Dovetailing the good things that Hall did with the promise of Rhee’s ideas also offers an elegant way to bring together the two main factions regarding APS.
The camp that believed Hall’s work was too valuable to throw out because of the cheating scandal could be satisfied that a like-minded reformer would follow her.
The camp that thinks Hall must go because of the cheating scandal would be assured that the succession was under way.
Some of you may have read that Rhee’s leadership and inflexibility toward the teachers union in D.C. contributed to the mayor’s election loss. If so, why bring her to Atlanta?
Chavous, who lives in Washington, acknowledges Rhee let her office “become overly politicized during this campaign.”
But he also says, “I absolutely don’t think the election was as much about her as it was about the mayor. The mayor had lost touch with the voters.”
In Atlanta, Rhee would be accountable to the school board and surely could apply the lessons she learned in D.C.
Should Rhee leave Washington, Chavous predicts she will “have her pick of the litter, so to speak. I’m sure there are 10 to 15 school districts in America that would welcome her with open arms. It really comes down to where she wants to make her mark.” (Sure enough, Oprah Winfrey on Friday touted Rhee for the top job in the Newark, N.J., school system.)
Race to the Top? Let’s race to the Rhee.
112 comments Add your comment
Teach2Learn
September 24th, 2010
10:08 pm
Interesting suggestion for APS – I’ll take a keener look at her record. Interesting that after 3 hours I am first. Where are your followers?
Concerned Parent
September 24th, 2010
10:08 pm
Georgia Department of Education should hire Ms. Rhee. We need a whole turn around in all Counties, especially COBB.
Concerned Parent
September 24th, 2010
10:10 pm
Kyle ask that question on Get Schooled. You are hidden.
small business owner
September 24th, 2010
10:29 pm
Rhee would be an excellent choice.
Kevin
September 24th, 2010
10:33 pm
If you really think that what the Atlanta Public Schools system needs is Michelle Rhee then you have not been paying close attention. I live in Washington, D.C, and have witnessed first-hand how crude and divisive she has been during her tenure. What is her skill set with regard to running an urban school district? How did Mayor Fenty happen upon her? Why were parents and school children alike so against her? Before you buy into the hype, do your diligence. You might just be surprised.
Echo
September 24th, 2010
10:34 pm
Rhee is a crap choice! Some folks need to do some research on Michelle Rhee. There is a reason why she is on her way out, and it ain’t just because the mayor lost his election!
Linda
September 24th, 2010
10:34 pm
Kyle, Please take my 5:38 comment from you previous blog out of moderation.
Steel Magnolia
September 24th, 2010
10:37 pm
The city of Atlanta citizens are desperate for positive moves by our leaders addressing all of our issues. Education is top of the list and pursuit of Michelle Rhee is critically important.
APS Board Members–Show us that you are tuned in and WANT improvements to our educational system….Get moving !!!
Steel Magnolia
September 24th, 2010
10:57 pm
Rhee will be participating in an “Education Nation” discussion which will be broadcast on Meet the Press this Sunday. Watch it !
Claude
September 24th, 2010
11:23 pm
I think she’ll probably stay on in Washington, but if she becomes a free agent, Atlanta should definitely grab her. She will fire teachers who lie and cheat to collect bonuses, and that makes her a big improvement on what we have now.
on patroll
September 24th, 2010
11:37 pm
oh my god, linda just stop.
Linda/RetiredTeacher
September 24th, 2010
11:42 pm
Yes, she’ll fit in well in Atlanta, if you catch my meaning.
The Only Moderate
September 25th, 2010
12:00 am
It’s not possible to improve APS without firing ANY black teachers and principals, so “the community” is going to have to sign on for that, or the problem is insoluble.
The DC school system is 80% black, so probably 80% of the dead wood is black.
john
September 25th, 2010
12:38 am
Wow. Hard to believe that the AJC found someone to replace Jim Wooten who was even less interesting to read. Replacing boring with really boring should certainly help sell papers.
AJnDC
September 25th, 2010
4:13 am
ATL, please take a deeper look at the DC school system before you buy into hiring M. Rhee. She will select and enhance a few high-visibility schools in a gentrified part of the city while others in the not-so-diversified part of town suffer (her wrath in many cases). Knowing the ATL culture and demographics, the honeymoon would end within a week. It won’t take her long to reveal the same coldness that forced Mayor Fenty out of office. In addition, she will alienate a large percentage of the parents because she lacks compassion. All the parents want to know is whether you truly care about their kids! She cares about her “system” instead. You can’t operate a system without motivated kids & participating parents. Don’t get me wrong, she has skills and is great with Pre K-6, but she isn’t the only one in the Nation with such skills. Robert Bobb in Detroit could fix your schools, but he brings similar baggage as well. He served in DC as well. Since she commutes from Sacramento, CA weekly (engaged to former NBA player and Mayor, Kevin Johnson), and doesn’t have children (at least in the school systems where she works), she has no vested interest in truly caring about ALL of the children. My suggestion is that you tread lightly! I don’t see a lot of motivated kids on the Metro each day. Maybe they’re passing the tests but there still cursing and snatching IPods! But that’s another blog entry with parental aspects as well. Just be careful in what you wish for, you may just get it – at least until she decides to stay with Kevin in SAC fulltime! Maybe a 2-year term could work? The commute is a killer!
DC Resident
September 25th, 2010
5:50 am
WOW! GREAT! We can’t wait to see Michelle go! And if the good people of ATL are foolish to believe the drivel in this bogus “article” then go ahead and bring her further south! Buyer beware! You are being sold a bill of goods! That said, I’m sure I can find a ton of people of here in DC that would be more than willing to distribute thousands of flyers in DC to encourage Michelle to come to ATL where she can mess up the APS, too. Good riddance to bad rubbish!
DC Resident
September 25th, 2010
5:57 am
Arlington, VA and Fairfax, VA and Montgomery County, MD have all been doing a much better job helping “low performing” (code word for Black) students for years before Rhee even showed up and still are! And without all of the misery she has brought to DC!
Models for D.C. schools? Try next door, in Arlington, Fairfax and Montgomery.
By Jay Mathews
Thursday, September 16, 2010
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/09/13/AR2010091305235.html
What kind of research did Wingfield do before writing this “article”?
Like I said if ATL want Rhee, we are happy to send her to you. And I’d be willing to spot the money for a first class (ONE WAY) ticket from DCA to ATL for Ms Rhee!
DC Resident
September 25th, 2010
5:58 am
Dear Kyle: Go get a CLUE!
Ayn Rant
September 25th, 2010
6:22 am
Good idea, Kyle! Thanks for the positive, constructive post.
There’s an wrong notion about responsibilities in American education. I doubt much progress can be made until it’s corrected. Teaching is the responsibility of the teacher, learning is the responsibility of the student, and supervising the student’s learning is the responsibility of the parents. Determining what to teach, i. e., the curriculum, is the responsibility of the wisest observers and thinkers of our society, whoever that may be.
We complain that teachers are not teaching, and students are not learning. Yet, we give the teacher and parents no clear definition of what should be taught and learned. We confuse the responsibilities for teaching and learning by blaming the failings of students and parents on the teachers.
A better school superintendent can make a small difference in student learning by demanding better teaching, but only better parents can make a big difference. The superintendent’s ability to improve education is further limited by the availability of good teachers. Few persons with the education and experience to teach well are attracted to the profession: putting up all day with other people’s kids is a trying job, and the pay and advancement opportunities are not comparable with other professions that challenge clever and intelligent people.
So, good luck on improving education by better school administration! Let’s just keep doing the same old things, the same old way, with the same political “leaders”, and hope that someday the results will be different.
Shieldy
September 25th, 2010
6:40 am
Rhee is an interesting choice, I especially like someone who promotes, pays, & dismisses teachers based on their performance against ALL their peers. Why not get radical & consider Ron Clark?? Hire him & get out of the way!!
Ayn Rant
September 25th, 2010
7:17 am
Kyle, a serious subject like education is not much appreciated by your readers. As the token “conservative” of the AJC, you are expected to serve up daily portions of pig-drool politics and dumb-ass philosophies.
Here’s a topic you might want to pursue: why Saxby Chambliss employs a staff of 42 advisors, and whether other members of the US Congress maintain similar private bureaucracies at the public expense. This fact of interest came out in the media hype over a “gay slur” that originated inside Chambliss’s office.
We have a do-nothing, no-accomplishments, ol’ boy politician with a staff of 42 people to advise him on doing nothing. Most likely, they advise him on getting re-elected. What’s going on? We need to know.
Toni
September 25th, 2010
7:20 am
I don’t know if Rhee should become APS superintendent, but I do know that Hall must go in order that APS school system improve
gaussian528
September 25th, 2010
7:27 am
“In Atlanta, Rhee would be accountable to the school board and surely could apply the lessons she learned in D.C”
For thsi reason alone, Michelle Rhee will pass up the opportunity to work for APS. Michelle Rhee will be accountable to no one. The school board was the first thing to go. Rhee only believes in that entity as an advisory board. She believes that no board or entity should stand in the way of her decisions. If she says she needs to fire 350 teachers, she will fire 350 teachers. She will not come to a board for approval. She will bypass the board the same way she bypassed and disregarded legislation in DC. Rhee reported to Mayor Fenty, and Fenty reported to no one – although he technically reported to the city council. His administration was a one man show – Fenty! Mr. Wingfield, you really need to do some fact finding before you begin to advocate for Chancellor Rhee. Learn the truths about what she has done and how she has done it. As a former central office administrator of DCPS that worked directly with Chancellor Rhee and her cabinet, I urge APS to go out and get someone that “truly” have your students’ education in their best interest, not someone that will say, ‘Yesterday’s results were devastating, not for me because I’LL be fine….’ Check your facts!!! She is a dictator – if that is what you are looking for – good luck!
USMC Dawg
September 25th, 2010
7:32 am
I say we open up the field to people who are NOT associated with RACIAL GROUPS, ie Black Alliance for Educational Options, Black Teachers Association, White Teachers Association, White Alliance for Educational Options, etc.
It is time for the Atlanta Public Schools to get some DIVERSITY.
The CROOKED, BLACK racists politicians in Atlanta have dragged our education system through the gutter for decades.
It is time for the corruption in Atlanta to be addressed.
UGA Barbie
September 25th, 2010
7:37 am
I’m shocked that you endorse getting Rhee. You do know that she is (gulp) a LIBERAL! She went to those fancy liberal Ivy League colleges Cornell and Harvard. She’s also engaged to a former African American NBA player that graduated from that hippie hotbed, the University of California Berkeley! How could you endorse such a LIB. WHERE ARE YOUR CHRISTIAN AND CONSERVATIVE VALUES?!?!?!
get out much?
September 25th, 2010
7:59 am
I wonder how many of those teachers Chancellor Rhee fired were fired more for reasons of their higher salaries than their effectiveness as teachers..
rosie
September 25th, 2010
8:00 am
Rhee and her boyfriend have lots of skeletons in their closets. He has been accused of corruption for his involvement in a foundation and misapprpriating funds. She has been accused of cover up. Don’t believe everything you hear on Oprah. Ms. Winfrey is using her show to promote the agenda of Barak Obama. His approval rating is low and she has got to do something to make sure he is elected again.
sheeshLuise
September 25th, 2010
8:04 am
At least we know what your highly (BIGOTED) values are “UGA Barbie”. Anyone who feels the need to use a descriptor every other word has got to be off their rocker and mentally sick.
You probably have a beard and are a size 20.
One thing you are NOT is a “Christian”, not based on Christ’s teachings at least. But then again, that’s why “Christianity” I am learning more and more is a LIE anyway, because of people like you.
carlosgvv
September 25th, 2010
8:26 am
You didn’t say if Rhee is black or not. If she’s not black then there’s no chance whatsoever she’ll be hired in Atlanta.
Jamie Hines--Washington, DC Resident
September 25th, 2010
8:41 am
Please do not believe the hype of Michelle Rhee. Although it appears that she gets the job done, she is very vindictive, non-compliant, and brings a lack of respect for governing bodies. If ATL is willing to dish out millions to this lady, you might want to think twice. After 4 years, DC is still at the bottom of the barrel for test scores; and that’s after closing 25+ schools (the Ward I live in has NO MIDDLE SCHOOL!) and mass firings of teachers in which many had no reason for fire.
http://www.thinkwritedevelop.com
Lynn43
September 25th, 2010
8:49 am
Kyle, I am almost at a loss for words at your suggestion, but I will make this brash statement. “This woman should never be associated with public schools again”. As a Board member, I have daily access to education articles from all over the United States which I read. I have read nothing that makes me think she is capable of running the legitimate reform of a school system. The criteria she used to fire teachers probably got rid of some of her best. I’m sure some were not the best, but her criteria used false data for evaluating teachers. She lacks any compassion for adults or children. They are treated as machines.
And just how do we know that some of the D.C. test results were not skewed as were Atlanta’s? We don’t. People can’t be brow beaten and not treated with any respect and expect to get positive results.
During my teaching career, I worked for a short time under someone very much like her. The entire system was falling apart. My now Superintendent is by far the best in Georgia-maybe the county, and he is getting all the results which are not only important to teachers and parents but can be “bragging points” for politicans.
Well informed
September 25th, 2010
8:55 am
“2010 DCPS Test Scores DECLINE”
see news article,
DCist website: =>
http://dcist.com/2010/07/2010_dcps_test_scores_decline.php Look at the data, rather than the
24-7 mega-media hype manipulated,
funded & produced by the Hedge Fund boyz,
Kaplan Testing corporation,
the edu-profiteers/financiers clique
& their incompetent spokesmodel rabid Rhee
– with her ludicrous lack of proven
teaching or administrative experience,
her lack of academic certification to be a superintendent,
her lack of reasonable supervisory procedures,
her lack of basic managerial skills,
her lack of teambuilding to implement goals,
her lack of community development to facilitate progress,
her lack of professional tact, her lack of essential
communication insight,
and her abysmal lack of common sense.
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The Snark
September 25th, 2010
8:55 am
Kyle, you couldn’t be more right on this one!
Well informed
September 25th, 2010
8:58 am
NewManagement wrote: —
I switched my daughter two years ago from a catholic school
to Alice Deal Middle School. The principle reason I did this was because
the school was a beautifully renovated facility that
was part of the Master Plan established
long before Michelle Rhee was thought of. ——-
In my view. she has had a minimal impact on the actual achievements of the schools and
the most significant improvement has been to the
facilities (which she had nothing to do with).
Leadership is simply more than having a high profile and firing teachers. The test scores under her tenure have shown modest success (even declining last year) despite retesting, gaming the system and postponing of extracurricular activities during testing periods as a means of ensuring the highest scores. When you analyze the totality of her accomplishments they are minimal and you rarely hear of tangible results she has achieved during her tenure (other than the illusion). What she has done is alienate a large portion of the city’s electorate and demoralize a large portion of the teachers and administration that support the schools. She is absolutely the wrong role model and person for this job. Her interest which is amplified by the recent media hype is more towards notoriety and grandstanding. Oprah did a disservice to herself and her viewers because she did not present a balanced view of the public school picture here in DC.
Lastly, let me be clear. In a predominantly African American school district it is vitally important
that their be a strong representation of African American teachers and administrators who are the role models for the students. To suggest that there are not enough qualified African Americans to fill these positions or that we would do something deleterious to the education of our kids is condescending and insulting. To further suggest that Vince Gray is not concerned about education is either ignorance or being disingenuous.
He is the only government official who has regularly held sessions with young students to ascertain their issues and concerns (see Saturday Council Sessions on Channel 13).
Her public campaigning in a segmented section of the city and her comments re: “devastating”
speaks volumes about how she feels about DC residents. ——-
Michelle Rhee is unprofessional and a fraud.
I can’t wait to see her go.
Well informed
September 25th, 2010
9:00 am
“Just the facts:
Shaw Middle School’s scores did not even stay about the same.
They went down — reading scores declined from 38.52% in ’08 to 29.20% in ’09
and it’s math scores went from 33.33% to 29.02%. This can easily be verified at the official website http://nclb.osse.dc.gov.
The fact that Shaw’s scores didn’t go up is a major embarrassment for Rhee. She installed a new principal (Betts), who hired a new staff, selected for being young and “unjaded” and he paid the kids for good behavior and attendance. It seems imperative that Rhee is asked to re-examine her determination to pursue this method and not gloss over an obvious failure with her ongoing pathological
prevarication & misrepresentation of the facts.
(–info. by efavorite)
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Michelle Rhee is full of herself….. and facts show…. Her scores went down !
The ironic part is watching Rhee loyalists twisting themselves into pretzels to rationalize a 4% drop in D.C. elementary school test scores. Suddenly, the entire test-and-punish crowd is explaining to us how test scores don’t mean anything and how test scores are tied much more to out-of-school conditions. The problem is that she has made rising standardized test scores a central measure
for achievement — writes columnist Valerie Strauss. But judging her reforms on the actual test scores, well, as my kids say, “Not so much.”
– by Mike Klonsky”
Well informed
September 25th, 2010
9:02 am
dcpsparent :
re: Michelle Rhee’s “mom friendly” comment, prepared specifically for the Oprah show, about moms not tolerating mediocre teachers being given time to grow and develop professionally. “Well. The unqualified, needing-to-grow-professionally, TFA principal that Rhee PUSHED on our school, despite protests from a panel of engaged, informed, truly progressive, professional educators and parents with advanced degrees in education . . . . . (this TFA principal) hired and protected even more inexperienced, unqualified teachers who will take YEARS to develop into true professionals. But the principal and those teachers all know how to say “yes” to their boss. Too bad they don’t know the basics of how children learn, or the nuances of curriculum and instruction. It is hard, hard work indeed to have to reprogram my kids every day after school, to get them to embrace and understand learning again. Rhee’s influential, BAD decisions and practices, more than ANY OTHER failure of the DC Public School system, has me on the verge of pulling my kids out of school. Rhee embarrassed herself mightily at the DC screening of this film (”Waiting for Wall Street Super-scammers”) with her comment insulting DC voters. My kids, and the 350 others in their school, will not be devastated at all when she leaves. We assume she will head to the business world for which she may have more appropriate skills.”
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Well informed
September 25th, 2010
9:03 am
Let’s… Get real, everybody!
==$$==
Michelle Rhee is a wholly-owned subsidiary
of:
Walmart,
Eli Broad, Bill Gates, Goldman Sachs et. al.,
Hedge Fund edu-profiteers
(& their mindless ‘think’ tanks,
planted pundits & sycophants);
and she’s blatantly
a frontwoman / spokesmodel for
KAPLAN learning services, Inc.
(testing, test-prep & online divisions) which is a major business arm (tentacle)
of the “Washington Post” company.
======================
DC Resident
September 25th, 2010
9:05 am
Another well thought out article that should lead to insight into Rhee instead of the faint patina written by Wingfield:
Natalie Hopkinson
Why Michelle Rhee’s Education ‘Brand’ Failed in D.C.
http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2010/09/why-michelle-rhees-education-brand-failed-in-dc/63014/
Like I said, if ATL really wants her, we ready to put her on the first flight out!
Well informed
September 25th, 2010
9:10 am
(reference: “knowyourfacts”)
The DCPS decline in test scores
in elementary schools
(Reading and Math) now reflect 2007 levels.
In actuality the drop was 4 points of proficiency.
These drops in elementary reading and math represent
an overall drop of 9-10% fewer elementary children
scoring proficient compared to last year.
One of the realities of Rhee’s brand of reform leadership is that our youngest children are not being taught well .
See here = /> http://gfbrandenburg.wordpress.com/2010/08/20/detailed-results-on-the-dc-cas-for-2010-3rd-grade/
If the reforms were having an impact one would expect
that the third graders who entered the school system
when Rhee did 3 years ago, and are taking the DC CAS
tests for the first time, would have shown great promise now. Unfortunately the opposite is true;
the test scores show declining proficiency rates.
The most difficult thing about being a parent of a child in
DCPS is the huge lack of analysis in the mainstream media and
the general spread of misinformation about the nature of
educational gains (or lack there of). We have a lot to learn from our third graders and owe them a qualified educational leader who can truly enable them to have high-quality learning experiences.
Unfortunately for DC teachers, the greatest beneficiaries of Rhee’s lack of real educational leadership have been the charters — because people have flocked to them for cover as Rhee closed 20 some schools. But perhaps as a teacher you and your colleagues at the charter should ask yourself why isn’t the quality of the schools good enough. Why aren’t all children everywhere being provided with the curriculum rich learning experiences you benefited from at the private school? What needs to happen next to ensure that goal?
I assure you it is not it has nothing to do with the desperation
and other articulate passions expressed by people like Rhee.
It has to do with getting to the hard work of providing children with significantly enhanced academically rigorous curriculum
and learning experiences — including their families in the process. Passion (and broom-mongering) aside, Rhee
really didn’t bring it –
nor was she headed in that general direction in my view.
I have heard Gray speak on the educational issue and he has stated that he will move forward with reforms just not with the expansion of testing as Rhee planned. Hopefully that will mean that our children are getting higher quality instruction here in
DC, rather than Rhee’s’
‘teaching to the test’ approach which has hijacked meaningful, viable real education.
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Well informed
September 25th, 2010
9:15 am
Supposedly, Ms. Rhee (in her own words to the news media) was away out of town last week on her (sic) “pre-honeymoon”, whatever that is, because her Sacramento wedding had been previously abruptly postponed — leaving the rashly, suddenly last-minute DIS-invited (un-invited), disrespected guests to cough up money (ie. cancellation fees & airplane fare / car rental costs) for prior-booked travel plans.
Where in the world is NON-superintendent Michelle Rhee ?
Very Obviously — Written communiques & “Interviews” published by complicit media (newspapers, websites, MSNBC, ABC, etc.) these past few days — which are supposedly coming from Ms. Rhee are actually being produced by Ms. Rhee’s public relations shills (staff & consultants, such as Anita Dunn, along with emergency P.R. assistance from Eli Broad’s & Bill Gates’ entourage, et. al.)
Ms. Rhee is a narcissistic scam artist &
a Walmart, Hedge Funds, Billionaire Boyz concubine — she also apparently has diarrhea of the mouth….. Hey, “Chancellor” — don’t trip up your tongue or slip on your (Ron Moten mojo) “Go-Go” boots on the way out, and watch out for your own slick pile of dippity-do….. this is your wake-up call Ms. Rhee as you brazenly bumble & stumble, as you cuddle up in the boardrooms & backrooms with Eli Broad & Bill Gates, as you cover-up for Kevin Johnson’s (”St. Hope” academy) financial illegalities & his sexcapades with students (teen minors) & with his school-staff (Americorps) subordinates too — as documented by U.S. Govt. Inspector General
Gerald Walpin.
Watch your step and your mouth — try to think before you speak —
Ms. Rhee, Non-superintendent !
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teacher&mom
September 25th, 2010
9:21 am
Inviting Michelle Rhee to APS is like inviting Nancy Pelosi to take over at the Gold Dome.
Well informed
September 25th, 2010
9:22 am
DCPS ELEMENTARY TEST SCORES DOWN –
DECLINES IN READING AND MATH
Michelle Rhee, unaccountable & unqualified
‘chancellor’
(note: she is not legally eligible
to be a school district superintendent)
“The DCPS had lower math test scores
in grades 4 and 8 in 2009,
and District African-American
test scores went down” …….
read & view the
data =>
http://www.examiner.com/ward-5-in-washington-dc/rhee-fails-on-nation-s-report-card
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Well informed
September 25th, 2010
9:23 am
the achievement gap widened
DCPS ELEMENTARY TEST SCORES DOWN –
DECLINES IN READING AND MATH
under the “crappy” regime of
Michelle Rhee,
unaccountable & unqualified
‘chancellor’ –
(note: she’s actually not legally qualified
and does not have certification to be
a district superintendent)
“The DCPS had lower math test scores
in grades 4 and 8 in 2009,
and District African-American
test scores went down”
read & view the
data =>
http://www.examiner.com/ward-5-in-washington-dc/rhee-fails-on-nation-s-report-card
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Well informed
September 25th, 2010
9:24 am
I’m not impressed by Michelle Rhee at all. She basically said techer’s don’t need professional training. Oh excuse me she will probably come back shortly and say I didn’t mean teachers don’t need professional development. She’s always says the wrong thing first and later has to come back and clean up what she says. She is NOT the only person that can run the District of Columbia schools. The school system in DC is much bigger than a Michelle Rhee. So all of this attention she’s getting I think is “devastating” for all the DC students. Vincent Gray does not need her and she said during the campaign that if he won she would not work for him. So after her meeting with him she needs to to pack up her boxes and move on.
I’m still trying to figure out why Oprah had her on her show.
Good thing Oprah is going off the air next year.
Posted by: ania
Well informed
September 25th, 2010
9:33 am
Did anyone else read the article in September’s Ebony where Michelle Rhee proudly touts the fact that programs like TFA
and her ‘New Teacher Project’ are bringing in teachers
from the ‘elite’ schools? She had to backtrack when
Dr. Julianne Malveaux, president of Bennett College,
challenged her.
And, Rhee didn’t mention that these programs bring in teachers with no disciplinary skills (such as herself — remember her
fond anecdote about “taping shut students’ mouths”) and
who are temp. workers not committed to the profession of teaching (ditto).
These programs are NOT designed to develop
a professional corps of teachers.
As a teacher with 15 years experience,
I can tell you, no one becomes an expert in only 2 or 3 years.
I don’t understand why Rhee (or anyone else) spends their energy trying to build and repair schools with these
types of temporary teachers.
They are a band aid —
nothting more
(band-aids are easily peeled off or fall off) —
a pseudo-reform sham providing cover for a
Wall Street-funded
edu-profiteering scam doesn’t heal anything and
doesn’t construct anything
lasting or worthwhile for the children.
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Drew S
September 25th, 2010
9:51 am
Kyle, a recent study concluded that “across five large urban districts, among teachers who were ranked in the top 20% of effectiveness in the first year, fewer than a third were in that top group the next year, and another third moved all the way down to the bottom 40%. Another recent study found that teachers’ effectiveness ratings in one year could only predict from 4% to 16% of the variation in such ratings in the following year.”
Ed Johnson
September 25th, 2010
9:56 am
“Why Michelle Rhee and Adrian Fenty Lost”
By Diane Ravitch
http://tinyurl.com/2woax9h
Consider Diane Ravitch’s letter to Deborah Meier an indication of the growing awakening to poor quality leadership of K-12 public education by autocrats like DC’s Michelle Rhee, APS’s Beverly Hall and, yes, US DOE’s Arne Duncan.
The idea of bringing Rhee to Atlanta is absolutely insane. And it is difficult to avoid wondering why many so-called influential “black” folk seem so inclined to subject especially “black” children to such dehumanization. Can someone give me a clue?
well-informed
September 25th, 2010
10:05 am
Just because someone doesn’t like Michelle Rhee does not mean that they support a failing school system. Frankly, there are people out there who could effect more change without alienating the people that are charged with making that change. Think about it, if you loved your job but your boss was a total jerk who consistently and publicly denigrated your profession (Rhee has said teaching is not a life long career, 4 years maximum and teachers should move on) and offered little support (look at Rhee’s terrible track record on professional development despite hiring largely from “TFA”/Teacher for America (who provide only 5 weeks training). Note: Rhee admitted (in a fond anecdote as part of a speech) that during her brief teaching stint at a for-profit urban school in Baltimore she put tape over the mouths of a class of 2nd graders who she could not control and she laughed when she said the tape made their mouths bleed.
bob
September 25th, 2010
10:11 am
Kyle, this is Atlanta and Rhee is not black, she is dis-qualified.
bob
September 25th, 2010
10:12 am
I know an educater that is out of work and would be endorsed by Obama.
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/education/ct-met-ayers-denied-emeritus-20100923,0,5045265.story
Politicians R Scum
September 25th, 2010
10:19 am
WHAT, HIRE RHEE AND DISRUPT THE PATRONAGE SYSTEM OF THE CITY OF ATLANTA? OH, THE NERVE OF SOME PEOPLE! MAKE IT SO.
J.B. STONER
September 25th, 2010
10:40 am
Rhee is not the answer ,nor should be an option…
I have told you how corrupt APS system is and will always be as long as control is a factor.
Continue to walk around with your blinders on (just like PBM does).
I’m laughing and can’t stop !!!!!!!
Politicians R Scum
September 25th, 2010
11:20 am
APS could do and does do much worse than my proposal: Replace all the math and science teachers with Asian students from Ga Tech. Pay them each to teach just one class per day, then return to Tech for their own advanced education. Within four years, math and science scores will increase by at least 20%, or I will admit I am wrong.
Eubieful O'sheet
September 25th, 2010
12:17 pm
Michelle Rhee lacks the one essential qualification for consideration for any government job in metro Atlanta – she is not an African-american.
Ability, desire, drive, initiative, potential – name any positive quality – all are secondary to epidural melanin content and heritage.
DC Mayor Fenty lost his re-election bid because he dared to hire a white female police chief and an Asian female school chief. Mayor Reed and other Atlanta politicians will not make the same mistake.
@@
September 25th, 2010
12:36 pm
I’ve been following Rhee’s career for some time. She’s very impressive. Her first and foremost concern are the children. A concern that, no doubt, stems from earliest years in teaching…Teach for America? It oughta be a requirement for anyone going into teaching. It’s the students who are most in need that should be every teacher’s focus.
There’s no way APS could lose with Rhee at the helm.
DawgDad
September 25th, 2010
1:39 pm
I live in an outlying county, but the problems with APS will affect all of us in the metro area for generations. The APS does not need an outsider (from DC no less, and someone touted by Oprah Winfrey!) to clean things up and run the system is effectively; the district, board, and administration need to be blown up, restructured, and rebuilt from the ground up, and run by responsible Georgians accountable to the district, city, and State taxpayers and citizens. To-date there has been virtually no accountability enforced for the massive teacher/administrator cheating scandal; the cheating has been institutionalized.
The State needs to step in and take over, restructure, establish board/administrator/teacher accountability, and turn the district back over to a new fairly elected local board. The plan needs to be defined and publicly communicated in advance in order for the responsible citizens and educators to jump on board and help champion its success.
I would fire Hall in a heartbeat and take my chances in court when she sues. She has failed to establish and maintain institutional control at the very core of the APS mission; if that isn’t grounds for immediate dismissal then go after the people that signed her contract for breach of fiduciary responsibility.
The zero tolerance policy that really matters is zero tolerance for any educator or board member not looking out for the kids above all else. A few years back we had a bad board memeber out here in Cherokee County; the County and citizens cleaned up the mess and got the system back on track very quickly.
josef nix
September 25th, 2010
2:41 pm
My jury is out on Rhee. I doubt seriously she’s all that she’s being cracked up to be. The big wigs seldom are.
My question is the same one being constantly asked in the teachers’ lounge. Why do we keep going somewhere else to recruit a superintendant? Are we incapable of producing our own? If that’s the case, then that tells you what the board thinks of its efforts. There are plenty of people quite capable of doing the job already here, already familiar with the local culture, the local problems and the local strengths. For the love of G-d, the reason the founding fathers refused to create a national public education system was because they felt it mete to leave the matter in local hands.
Just one, really rather trivial, instance of what it is I’m talking about. The first year Ole Missus was here, she didn’t close the schools on her first snow day, her Northeastern worldview showing. Instead, she put the children at risk. Talk to a bus driver about that day from hell. But it did show how out of touch with the local conditions she was and still is. She was informed by the locals why it was the schools should be closed. She just chose not to listen to the provencials, she knowing better. This is not a place for on the job training.
For the race baiters hereabouts—I should hope that in an 80% (whatever) system, 80% of the deadwood would be of that category.
Of course the best qualified person should be brought on and I would posit that those being bossed ought to have a considered vote in who that person is. They know the local pool better than anyone else. As an APS employee, I could come up with a list of contenders from my peers and coworkers who would do just as good, if not better, job than someone brought in here from outside.
Bottom line, the people making the decision haven’t the vaguest notion of what they’re talking about. We even have reps on the board who sent their own kids to private schools. The one who used to be my own (and my own school’s) “representative” used her position to have her own little white children enrolled in the best public school in the district when you could actually see the school full of little brown faces from her living room window. Never mind that the little white faces standardized test scores at her neighborhood school were higher than those she was sending her kids to. And BTW she was a Democrat elitist, not a GOP one.
Awful, Awful, Awful
September 25th, 2010
3:00 pm
Folks, lets get real……she’s not black. The APS can’t see anything but black. The only thing that’s gonna save the System is to replace everyone…..and that’s not gonna happen…..too much stupidity.
josef nix
September 25th, 2010
3:29 pm
Awful…
Replace everyone? I take that personally!
Seriously, though, it is long since time for a housecleaning of major proportions and first on the chopping block is that over inflated upper level administration. We’ve got some pretty good people in many of the local schools…
Truth
September 25th, 2010
4:33 pm
Are you nuts?
Rhee is being run out of town in DC. She was Rhee-jected. Her hamfisted mismanagement of the DC schools is the main reason DC Mayor Fenty lost in the Democratic primary. And her arrogant attitude towards the black community, among whom she is a hated figure, has dangerously racialized the city.
But … if you want her, you can have her. As for Newark wanting her, if that were so, she would already there. Regarding Oprah’s endorsement of her, since her disastrous experiment with Africab schools, that doesn’t count for much. Chris Tucker or Wheezee vouching for Rhee would probably carry more weight.
Hey, pal, as the commercial used to say, “If you don’t know, you’d better “ax” somebody.”
Mr_B
September 25th, 2010
5:26 pm
joseph: It’s good to see an actual teacher commenting here, but I’m afraid your wrong on the founding father’s foresight on the lack of a national public education entity is that it would never have crossed their minds to do it. In the 1790s education was reserved for a very tiny, wealthy elite, except for a few places in New England. But I agree that somewhere in the metro area is an administrator with the ability and stamina to correct the local problems, if they’re left alone long enough to do it. Many of the dilemmas we face in teaching are not suseptible to an instant fix from the education miracle du jour.
Mr_B
September 25th, 2010
5:28 pm
Give myself an “F.” Should be “you’re wrong.”
Brad
September 25th, 2010
5:51 pm
Damn Kyle, did you expect such a sh*tstorm?
Independent
September 25th, 2010
6:32 pm
So she fired a bunch of teachers. Did she find qualified teachers that did a better job to replace them? Or does she just fire more teachers every year?
josef nix
September 25th, 2010
6:50 pm
Mr B
The subject did come up. There were proposals to copy the free and mandated system of Prussia in place since the 1720s…the goal was to produce a good “citizen soldier” to serve the state. Jefferson came out dead set against it, warning of what it could lead to…turns out he was right…
Also, there were numerous publicly supported schools throughout the country at the time and not just in New England but in just about every town of any size. Most people lived in the countryside at the time where schools were not so available.
It is interesting to note that the first mandated public schools were in Mississippi in 1868 to operate as centers for reeducation under the occupation.
josef nix
September 25th, 2010
7:11 pm
Mr B…
I have to give myself lots of Fs in the blogosphere! In relation to the question of public education, here are some of my opinions on the subject from another forum, but it does give an insight into “see oursels as ithers see us…”
Director Ang Lee, in his suspiciously ignored film, “Ride with the Devil,” an adaptation of Daniel Woodrell’s equally suspiciously ignored novel, Woe to Live On, has one of his characters, a Southern gentleman, predict the failure of “The Cause” by explaining that Union victory would come from the fact that the first building the Unionists put up in Lawrence was “not a church, not a home, but a schoolhouse” to which all of their children would be sent where they would all learn the same thing. The Unionists wanted everyone to think and live the same way and would “not rest until they did.” “The South,” he says, “doesn’t give a d*mn about such conformity and was content to let people live their own lives.” The Yankees would win, he avowed, because of that schoolhouse.
This, according to Ang Lee, is what struck him in the novel and what motivated him to do the film. “I grew up in Taiwan, where older people always complained that kids are becoming Americanized: they don’t follow tradition, and so we are losing our culture. As I got the chance to go around a large part of the world with my films, I would hear much the same complaints. It seems so much of the world is becoming Americanized. When I read Daniel Woodrell’s book Woe to Live On, which we based Ride With the Devil on, I realized that the American Civil War was, in a way, where it all started. It was where the Yankees won not only territory but, in a sense, a victory for a whole way of life and thinking.”
It is precisely this Weltanschauung which triumphed at Appomattox and which the unified republic took with it in its imperialist drive with the takeover of the Hawaiian Kingdom and the territories seized from Spain in the first of its wars on non-Monroe Doctrine foreign soil, setting out to remake the locals in its own image and giving the country its current reputation which is the fruit of the last 150 years of “victories.”
josef nix
September 25th, 2010
7:16 pm
Mr B and Kyle..
I tried to post a further comment from Ang Lee and it must have been held up…it was held up previously as well over at Jay’s…there’s something that the moderator doesn’t like and, try as I might, I cannot determine what it is…I’ve looked for all the usual letter combination catches and the such, but can’t determine what…
KYLE? Any ideas?
josef nix
September 25th, 2010
7:44 pm
Enter your comments here
oldtimer
September 25th, 2010
8:39 pm
As a retired teacher…She is brilliant! I was one of the ones who got “hard to handle kids”…..with no extra money…..
Mark in mid-town
September 25th, 2010
9:36 pm
The reason so many in DC ended up despising Michelle Rhee is that she actually cared about those attending the DC public school system. Such caring resulted in her going after sacred cows and in demanding results from too many who had been accustomed to not having to produce anything other than continued failure. Progress in the DC school system under the best of circumstances can probably be no better than slow, as the cultural problems there are so entrenched. Nonetheless, progress was being made under Rhee and under the mayor who hired her. Too bad he was defeated and too bad that means in all probability that Rhee will be out. It’s the kids of DC who will continue to suffer in the long term.
J.B. Bun
September 25th, 2010
11:06 pm
Kyle, You forgot the mention this but since you recommend her I assume that she does not have the #1 dis-qualification for the job. No matter what she has accomplished, with this attribute there is not a snowball’s chance of her being hired by APS but without it she’s a shoe-in. Is she white?
well-informed
September 26th, 2010
2:25 am
tellthetruth10 wrote:
“Michelle Rhee, Kevin Johnson
and St. Hope Academy
(note: It’s time to RESEARCH
the actual facts about
unaccountable, unqualified
Michelle Rhee) …….
== />
http://sacchartergate.blogspot.com/
(’hush money’
alert !)
Washington DC blogger ‘lodesterre’ has been reading the Inspector General’s referral to the U.S. Attorney; he/she’s been asking many good questions —
some of the same ones on our mind too
— such as the issue of Michelle Rhee holding “conflicting positions” at Kevin Johnson’s
“St. Hope Academy” privatized charter H.S.
in Sacramento.
According to the IG interview with former St. Hope employee Jacqueline Wong-Hernandez, the same time Rhee was listed as a St. Hope board member, she was identified as the consultant for the New Teacher Project (which recruited teachers for St. Hope schools), the consultant for the reconstruction bridge span and the consultant for the reconstruction of the HR department. On a memo she was listed she as the Chief Operating Officer for St. Hope Academy. On an organization chart she was identified as president. As lodesterre writes:
…Ms. Rhee’s titles at the St. Hope Charter Academy boggle the mind. Were all the positions paid positions? How did she perform the duties of board member and Chief Operating Officer at the same time? As president, Chief Operating Officer and Board Member at the same time? as President, COO, board member and a consultant for St. Hope on three projects, at the same time? How did she act as a consultant for St. Hope on the New Teacher Project, an organization that supplies teachers to schools, and as a consultant for St. Hope’s Human Resource Department’s reconstruction? Did she suggest to the Human Resource consultant which applicants to hire? It must have sounded interesting.
Why, when Rhee was apprised by St. Hope employee Jacqueline Wong-Hernandez about sexual misconduct allegations against Kevin Johnson by 3 Americorps teenage volunteers, did she not contact California State authorities she was obligated to do under California law? Was this another one of those irksome laws she sees no problem in ignoring because she “knows” better?
As COO and President, not to mention those consulting positions, was Ms. Rhee aware of the misuse of Americorps funds and volunteers as outlined in the Investigative General’s report of August 2008? As one of the top three office holders of St. Hope it seems that either Ms. Rhee was aware and therefore participated or that she was not aware and she was negligent in her duties or these positions were merely window dressing for her resume and padding for her bank account.
Why did Ms. Rhee not only try to bring in the St. Hope
umbrella organization to take over the operations of two DC schools, but she also insisted that she need not recuse herself from the process (??)
This occurred in spite of her
deep involvement with St. Hope
and her knowledge of financial irregularities
(involving the misappropriation of $400,000
in federal grants)
and federal legal violations
Another serious matter is her
attempted cover-up of evidence
pertaining to criminal incidents
within Sacramento city & county.
There were violations of California
state laws & regulations, which should
have been reported & investigated.
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Churchill's MOM
September 26th, 2010
7:15 am
Wingboy good idea but as most of the local posters say if she isn’t black she won’t be hired. The corrupy APS does not want educational progress, they want the money.
CommonSenseForChange
September 26th, 2010
8:08 am
Michelle Rhee is not interested in children or education. She is in it for the fame and fortune. The latest model for achieving fame and fortune is to bring in imported labor to do the jobs Americans can’t do. Don’t believe it? Ask Bill Gates, the Walmart Waltons and the rest of Rhee’s backers?
Test scores went down on her watch — this immediately after the small rise under her predecessor’s watch.
j
September 26th, 2010
8:52 am
come on kyle is this the best you can do? Hire someone else.
only two subjects should be taught from k-8th grade: english and math.
only four subjects should be taught from grades 9 – 12:
english/english literature, math, computer science and american government/law/constitution.
Problem solved.
CommonSenseForChange
September 26th, 2010
9:24 am
Why Rhee?!
Greedy businesses claimed their new hires were not prepared by the school system to do jobs at their companies, so it cost them money to train them. Businesses didn’t want to pay for the training, so they pushed their agendas on the schools to get taxpayers to fund their training. Isn’t that where the whole propaganda campaign for imports started?
The greedy only get greedier, so ironically, business now wants a larger slice of taxpayer money. They will get it, too, by dismantling education and funnelling the money into charter schools and certification fees. Basically, the taxpayer went from subsidizing businesses’ education and training to outright paying businesses for THEIR own damned needs. Try going to your neighbors house and telling him you need food and then demanding that he pay you to feed you.
This is all possible because journalism standards have become low. Maybe instead of concentrating on teachers, we should teach logic in classes. At a minimum, make it a requirement for the journalism majors.
Something is wrong when the nations that can’t achieve/produce much can infiltrate the nation that has achieved by getting the media to do their bidding. How can underachievers show us how to achieve? Ms. Rhee and Mr. Gates want to import more low-wage teachers, period. Nothing more to their plan than that.
This is Mrs. Norman Maine
September 26th, 2010
10:17 am
Oh my gosh, I literally laughed out loud when I read this. For years, I’ve heard about how Georgia fired “King Roy” because he ruled like an autocrat. Well how in the heck do you think Michelle Rhee runs D.C.schools? There is a reason, her job is in jeopardy. She’s dictatorial. She’s nonresponsive. She’s polarizing. No wonder you like her.
I don’t care how good your ideas are, if you can’t work with the parents and teachers they are not going to hear them. Nice try, Kyle.
gateach
September 26th, 2010
10:54 am
If they don’t want her in DC why the %$&# do we need her here? Apparently she thinks running a school system is similar to running a Fortune 500 company. No thanks,APS is already screwed up enough already.
VIETNAM VET
September 26th, 2010
11:17 am
Enter your comments here
VIETNAM VET
September 26th, 2010
11:19 am
Let me see if I understand your position. Ms. Rhee’s program has just been refudated in DC and given that we should hire her in Atlanta.
Concerned1
September 26th, 2010
11:31 am
It doesn’t really matter who they hire for super in APS. Teachers have been painted as villians throughout the country. Unless we are willing to go back to being paid less than garbage collectors, work at school and then work 3 or 4 hours at home each night and then go out and patrol poor neighborhoods to make sure that parents are actually at home supervising and nurturing their children…oh please, enough already. Too many African Americans are making a decent living teaching and they vote. That is what this crap is all about.
teacher&mom
September 26th, 2010
11:45 am
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/video/2010/08/13/VI2010081305444.html
Kyle-do you really want APS to be run by someone with only 3 years teaching experience? Listen to Rhee’s own words as she describes her teaching experience. Is this what we want to unleash on APS? How can any teacher, parent, or administrator respect a leader who admits to using masking tape on her students?
CommonSenseForChange
September 26th, 2010
12:24 pm
I have no affiliation with this blogger. Interesting read on the history, politics, privatization of education, etc. –
http://perimeterprimate.blogspot.com/2009/07/history-lesson-about-sandia-report.html
Again, if the goal is to achieve in the area of STEM, why import labor from countries that have not achieved as much success from or for their own masses?
Politicians R Scum
September 26th, 2010
2:11 pm
Looks like half the APS teachers will soon be in prison, they couldn’t cheat any better than they could teach! Federal fraud charges are pending, he he ha ha. Now replace the criminals with people who have masters degrees in the subject matter they are to teach, and not a masters degree in education. A masters in education degree concentrates on methods of teaching, not the subject matter. The best performing schools systems in the world refuse to hire education majors, they hire only people to teach who have a masters degree in the subject matter.
josef nix
September 26th, 2010
2:36 pm
jb
Supporter of Obama…? Me? Of ‘Fierce Advocate?’ Oy, Mate, you obviously don’t know my reputation with his disciples over to Jay’s place!
Politicians R
I won’t go so far as requiring a Master’s Degree.in the area of expertise..but I am in your corner on the Education Degree. The Master’s Degree is just one more piece of paper bought from Mail-In U and really holds no indication of the experience in that field. And for the record, by and large it wasn’t the teachers who were the “criminals” but the administrators.
I am reminded of what my mother told one of my teachers who went to citing her degrees in education in a parent-teacher conference, “well, you know all about teaching. Now why don’t you go learn something TO teach?”
jm
September 26th, 2010
5:12 pm
Great idea. A reform minded person like Rhee, that always puts the children’s needs and interests at the top of their priorities is the kind of successor we need. Rhee, or someone like Rhee, would be a great choice for APS.
Ks
September 26th, 2010
6:40 pm
Rhee is a fraud. She dismantled the School Board so she did not have to answer to anyone. In a system where there is oversight she would not take the job. And if you want a bunch of unskilled TFA teacher then she’s your girl. Also I don’t know what the racial dynamics are in Atlanta but if you got African American kids in your schools then you might want as well just say you’ve failed them now without have to pay her an arm and a leg to destroy their lives.
Politicians R Scum
September 26th, 2010
6:46 pm
That’s rich Ks, calling Ms Rhee a fraud, that from a crooked aps teacher who changed answers on student progress reports so Ks would look good. I hope the FBI knocks on your door real soon. See the headlines in today’s Urinal.
Mike
September 26th, 2010
7:26 pm
Michelle Rhee is impolite to others. She often changes her voice as she mocks others openly. She is immature and has terrible leadership skills.
Uncle Billy
September 27th, 2010
6:37 am
Notice that Mr. Wingfield quotes Kevin Chavous and then assumes that everything his says is true. As an argument it is called “begging the question.”
Politicians R Scum
September 27th, 2010
7:58 am
Gee, these comments are mostly supporting the status quo of aps: lying, cheating, stealing, and failing students. I bet most of these posters work for aps.
paleo-neo-Carlinst
September 27th, 2010
8:44 am
I am familiar with Ms. Rhee, as I have roots in the DC area. that said, I think we can file this under “hope and change”. I think we’d all like to “hope” she’d turn APS on its ear (”change” the culture from cronyism to academia); and her performance in DC is impressive. I just don’t see Atlanta “embracing” her. I just don’t think public education is a priority in Atlanta/GA. the uneducated (and I am referring to adults) don’t want some of Ms. Rhee’s ilk because they fear “change”. the educated (’ol boy network) don’t want her “educating” Atlanta because and educated, motivated class threatens the gool ‘ol boy network (and how can the good ‘ol boys rant and rave about public education, if it is producing competent, intelligent leaders in the public and private sectors?). good post KW, because you monst definitely put the ball in Atlanta’s court. as I said, I just don’t see it happening.
bob
September 27th, 2010
8:56 am
J 8:52, I hope that was sarcasm.
bob
September 27th, 2010
8:59 am
I think APS is doing quite well, now they are even being investigated by the FBI. This investigation might be a little harder than asking your vendors to come in and say “all is well”.
jconservative
September 27th, 2010
9:19 am
“Rhee is a crap choice! Some folks need to do some research on Michelle Rhee. There is a reason why she is on her way out.”
The reason she is on her way out is that she more than significantly improved the “per student” education of the students in the DC system.
To do this she fired incompetents, put marginally ineffective teachers on notice and hired “professional” teachers.
The “teachers unions” are the problem along with “partisan politics” and “cultural politics”. Solve these problem and you solve the education problem.
Teachers unions want to protect their members. Yet no member of the teachers’ union wants to go to an incompetent doctor when ill. But they say it is OK to have incompetent teachers teach our children.
The big question on the table is will Congress and the President force the hand on the teachers unions?
And Kyle is correct, Rhee will have her pick among dozens of offers. She is trying to make teaching a “profession” in fact, and not just in name.
Buckhead Writer
September 27th, 2010
9:25 am
The only reason Rhee is being run out of town is because she stood up to teachers unions and told them that they are detrimental to the school system. Her ideals were always The school system does not serve as an employment stream for adults and too long children have suffered and carried the weight of a system that is designed to keep harmony between adults on their backs while they are dragged under.
The result: the teacher unions gave the largest monetary donations to Fenty’s competition.
Finally someone who is not afraid to piss off some people and lose her job in the name of doing the right thing (putting the children NOT TEAHCERS/ADULTS) first.
Please, Michelle, Atlanta needs you!!!
CAIR Bears
September 27th, 2010
9:49 am
Looks like Democrats have more in common with terrorists than they do with America.
A’jad monster’s ball
Wacky week in NY for wolf in cheap clothing
President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad’s six nights in New York featured a secret sit-down with militant minister Louis Farrakhan, heckling in a hotel bar, and a fear of being rubbed out that bordered on paranoia.
The president shared a hush-hush meal with Farrakhan and members of the New Black Panther Party Tuesday at the Warwick Hotel on West 54th Street.
The meeting of the podium smackers took place in a banquet room, where the fiery leaders presumably exchanged theories on what’s wrong with the world.
Read more: http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/jad_monster_ball_Z7Km37ydJJJHSxgrxPtfbJ#ixzz10jobUAel
CAIR Bears
September 27th, 2010
10:04 am
Noticed some “hate Fox News” column from Bookman.
He should take notice at this retard at PMSNBC>
Ed Schultz: Chris Christie A ‘Cold-Hearted Fat Slob’ (VIDEO)
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/09/27/ed-schultz-chris-christie_n_739929.html
well-informed
September 27th, 2010
10:05 am
dcpsparent :
re: Michelle Rhee’s “mom friendly” comment, prepared specifically for the Oprah show, about moms not tolerating mediocre teachers being given time to grow and develop professionally. “Well. The unqualified, needing-to-grow-professionally, TFA principal that Rhee PUSHED on our school, despite protests from a panel of engaged, informed, truly progressive, professional educators and parents with advanced degrees in education . . . . . (this TFA principal) hired and protected even more inexperienced, unqualified teachers who will take YEARS to develop into true professionals. But the principal and those teachers all know how to say “yes” to their boss. Too bad they don’t know the basics of how children learn, or the nuances of curriculum and instruction. It is hard, hard work indeed to have to reprogram my kids every day after school, to get them to embrace and understand learning again. Rhee’s influential, BAD decisions and practices, more than ANY OTHER failure of the DC Public School system, has me on the verge of pulling my kids out of school. Rhee embarrassed herself mightily at the DC screening of this film (”Waiting for Wall Street Super-scammers”) with her comment insulting DC voters. My kids, and the 350 others in their school, will not be devastated at all when she leaves. We assume she will head to the business world for which she may have more appropriate skills.”
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Intown
September 27th, 2010
11:18 am
APS may do well to hire her but, would probably do better to hire someone with a lower profile and less controversy to reform the school district. While Rhee is to be commended on fixing issues on the teacher side, no one has a good approach to addressing what is probably 80-90% of the problem to begin with — the parents and the students. There is a reason that schools are better in more affluent neighborhoods. The kids are better prepared and more interested in school and that’s because the parents value education, hard work, and excellence.
Matt Mashburn
September 27th, 2010
1:17 pm
Thank you, thank you, thank you for writing this piece! I’ve been telling all of my friends about this all week. I moved back to Atlanta after living in Washington, D.C. less than a year ago and Michelle Rhee is absolutely fantastic. I hope and pray that the people of Atlanta have enough sense to at least make Rhee an offer.
jm
September 27th, 2010
3:07 pm
Intown – the teachers are the problem.
truth
September 27th, 2010
7:21 pm
Had Rhee been properly vetted, she probably would not have been appointed DC schools chancellor. It is unlikely she could survive the oversight process in other large US cities and those cities already know that. And, BTW, nobody cares that Oprah supports her. Her endorsement is worth less than Wheezee’s and Chris Carter’s.
Kyle, snap out of it.
AJnDC
September 27th, 2010
8:19 pm
An article from Washington Post’s own Courtland Milloy. Not many can say it better!
“Rhee needs to take a look in the mirror”
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/09/26/AR2010092602992.html
Mad Russian
September 28th, 2010
1:29 pm
As a teacher in APS, the last thing we need is top down management from a person that only lasted a couple of years as a teacher and has demonstrated that she has little respect for the people in this profession. Her approach to evaluating effectiveness through standardized testing is not only archaic but completely inequitable. Some teachers have the blessing of working with highly motivated students and their results will typically be on the high end. The teachers that work with students that have low achievement and must try to lessen the gap are the ones that will suffer the consequences. Does that seem fair? Do you know much about education or is it your job to evaluate us with little knowledge of the profession? One trend I’ve always noticed is how novice or poor teachers are typically the ones that teach the low students. Maybe it’s because those students don’t have advocates for them in the classroom. Uninvolved parenting is one of our biggest issues and no matter how hard we try we still get resistance from the community. Yep, more top down management for education so the system of class can be maintained in this country. I do agree that there should be swift action rather than brow beating on the CRCT issue. Plain and simple, all administrators involved should be removed from their positions and all teachers that were involved should be disciplined for following those orders. One final note, Rhee taught for two years and moved on. If she was so effective, why did she crap out after two years? It’s easier to sit on the perch and bark orders than it is to sit in the trenches and dodge the shrapnel. Real leaders put themselves in the line of fire, not site behind the veil of politics. Think before you make bold statements about a person who wields a broad sword rather than try to use precision to deal with the situation.
Mr. House
September 28th, 2010
6:58 pm
Rhee had no vision, just a narrow goal of improving test scores. Rhee’s legacy will be known for firing, threatening and intimidating principals, teachers and staff members. Only 15 schools in the District of Columbia this year met the annual goals of No Child Left Behind, down from 54 in 2009. She had $25 million in cost overruns. D.C. public schools overspent the special education budget by about $25 million to $30 million
She brought nothing new to the DCPS education table except those TFA’s and NEW LEADERS. Both groups were inexperienced and not qualified for urban education. We need new teachers who are highly qualified and experienced. We should not accept the least experienced teachers (TFA’s) for the most challenging schools. Nothing has hurt urban education more than this common practice. We the parents have spoken and this Rhee’s experiment is over. Rhee has no future in DC and she is a liability to the future of our students and parents.
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Sexual Misconduct Suit Filed Against D.C. Public School Chancellor Michelle Rhee and Former Teacher……..DC Examiner
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According to the report, a former St. HOPE official told investigators that Michelle Rhee – at the time a St. HOPE board member and now Johnson’s fiancée and public schools chief in Washington, D.C. — did “damage control” after learning of sexual misconduct allegations against Johnson.
Read more: http://www.sacbee.com/2009/11/20/2338165/kevin-johnsons-accuser-says-he.html#ixzz10X7EgmSQ
Seriously
September 28th, 2010
9:00 pm
Kyle, you need an intervention. Snap out of it.
Don’t you find it odd not a single school system in the country has been reported to have expressed any interest in having Michelle A. Rhee lead them? Could it be they know something about her you don’t? Could it be Rhee stands no chance of surviving any serious vetting by a major school system, the kind of vetting Rhee successfully avoided in DC? If these systems are clamoring for her, as her supporters claim, why are these same supporters aggressively trying to bully the incoming DC mayor into keeping her in DC? Riddle me that.
Seriously
September 28th, 2010
9:09 pm
Atlanta make Michelle A. Rhee this offer: we will give you 3 free Falcons tickets if you (and your masking tape) stay out of the city for the rest of your life.
What’s that sound? Sighs of Rhee-lief from thousands of Atlanta school children and teachers.
jim crawford
September 29th, 2010
7:51 am
We might want to consider the factors that caused Mayor Fenty’s electoral loss in D.C, the primary one of which was Michelle Rhee’s arrogant, abrasive, authoritarian and corporationalist attitude to reforming the schools. Instead of taking a reasonable approach, Ms Rhee, 40 years old, like almost all authoritarians, wanted fast results, better for HER career ‘doncha know,’ and attempted to impose her own, personal ideas on an entire D.C. school district that consists of thousands of teachers every bit as well educated and knowledgeable as herself.
Thus, instead of instituting the sort of democratic system whereby the teachers would assist in the actual management of the schools, she attempted to institute a dictatorial scheme by which she in fact attacked the teachers instead of attacking the system, thus making hostile the very people whom she should have been working with instead of working against. I would venture to say that in general such confrontation usually produces only short term results, even if effective.
Far better, in my own view, to initiate a system of democratic school management in which the teachers actually participate in a voting system of management whereby teachers get to express and to vote on their own opinions as to the efficacy of any particular solution or policy. I suggest this idea because in 35 years of teaching, I have personally heard or seen almost all of the suggestions now being proposed by ‘reformers,’ and those ideas were proposed as many as 35 years ago when teachers were suggesting ideas like smaller class sizes, mandatory after school mentoring for students having difficulty, [paid] teacher internships for prospective new teachers, greater teacher control of curriculum, more effective parental and community involvement, et al.
The 19th century corporationalist system of school management that presently adheres in US schools, where administrators are appointed if they’re sufficiently conciliatory to the school board and whereby teachers are customarily ordered about and expected to follow orders, is in my judgement the single most destructive element in American public schools. As Churchill once noted correctly in one of his more honest comments, “Democracy is the worst form of governance, except for all the others.”
jim crawford
Westwood NJ
Linda/RetiredTeacher
September 29th, 2010
1:07 pm
Yes, Rhee would be perfect for Atlanta!! After all, when she was a teacher her scores went from the 13th percentile to the 90th! That’s a “miracle,” Atlanta style! If you can nab her, she should be able to continue in your great tradition of testing, if you catch my meaning,
Mad Russian
September 30th, 2010
2:19 pm
Politicians R Scum. It’s obvious that you associatedthe actions of a choice number of idiots with all teachers just because we work for APS. I don’t need to cheat to get my results and I’ve worked hard to be a legitimate teacher. I love all of your facts and how having a master’s degree automatically makes a person a good teacher? Have you ever taught in an actual public school setting? It’s not about standing up and lecturing the entire time. I’ve seen the best educated people completely falter in this profession because teaching is more about classroom management than it is about content and I am extremely well learned in my content. We have to address the needs of all of the students and specifically their different learning styles. As a science teacher, the two main issues I have are a lack of parental involvement and lack of capital (as in materials). I spend at least $1200 a year on my own supplies because the system is so completely disorganized but I teach by choice. Of course I can’t reach every child, it’s an almost impossible task but I make the effort every single day. Why not look at the inequity that’s been set up in schools. The best students get set up with the top teachers because their families demand them. I get the best students because I’ve established myself as a good teacher. I’ve also requested the so-called “tough” students because they’re the ones that really need my work ethic. Rather than sit back and name call why don’t you get more involved in the system and help us make some actual change. Take a tour of a random number of schools (not the good ones) and see what the teachers have to deal with on a daily basis. See how a school must make the adjustments when class size is no longer limited (I average 36 in each class now). See the struggle of not having a teacher replaced when they leave and how the parents have to threaten to sue in order for the district to hire a person. Learn that all of the great technology that is provided doesn’t amount to squat if it’s used as a diversion from the curriculum. I do agree, a master’s in education is completely useless, I’ve learned to refine my skills by sitting in the middle of the battlefield and by making the necessary adjustments.
As for Rhee, top down management is the last thing that any school district needs and the data shows that scores have dropped under her tenure. She’s a media hound and cares little for the needs of those in education. Her credentials are sketchy at most and look at her association with people. She’s a corporate representative and is romantically linked with a person that has had numerous investigations into illegitimate business practices.
We need increased involvement and accountability for all stakeholders in education. Those that were directly involved in the cheating scandal, enjoy the unemployment line. Those that were coerced, some action but most of all grow a spine and say no when someone directs you to break these types of rules. In the end, it’s rhetoric from individuals such as yourself that does little because it’s all talk. Education is about every child, not the black ones, white ones, Hispanic ones, or Asian ones. It’s about every child and their right to a quality education so they can achieve their dreams.
Star is Born, But Who Gets Burned
September 30th, 2010
10:25 pm
Here’s an EdWeek’s MUST READ! Susan Graham writes about an incompetent teacher that left a trail of tears on her/his quest for advancement, notability and Oprah’s Warrior Woman status. Try and guess who that person is; here’s the link to the article:
http://blogs.edweek.org/teachers/place_at_the_table/2010/09/a_star_is_born.html