The tea party as a ‘hostile takeover’ of the GOP

Two tea-party promoters, Dick Armey and Matt Kibbe of Freedomworks, offer a “manifesto” for the movement in today’s Wall Street Journal. The bit that’s getting all the attention doesn’t come until the end:

[L]et us be clear about one thing: The tea party movement is not seeking a junior partnership with the Republican Party, but a hostile takeover of it.

The American values of individual freedom, fiscal responsibility and limited government bind the ranks of our movement. That makes the tea party better than a political party. It is a growing community that can sustain itself after November, ensuring a better means of holding a new generation of elected officials accountable.

So, it’s a hostile takeover of a political party, but it’s also better than a political party? I think I know what they are getting at: that they are part of a movement that will try to infiltrate the GOP and change it from within, rather than compete with, or take orders from, it. But it’s a little obtuse, as is the notion of setting out a manifesto for a group that, as they write within said manifesto, is not a top-down organization:

The many branches of the tea party movement have created a virtual marketplace for new ideas, effective innovations and creative tactics. Best practices come from the ground up, around kitchen tables, from Facebook friends, at weekly book clubs, or on Twitter feeds. This is beautiful chaos — or, as the Nobel Prize-winning economist F.A. Hayek put it, “spontaneous order.”

Decentralization, not top-down hierarchy, is the best way to maximize the contributions of people and their personal knowledge. Let the leaders be the activists who have the best knowledge of local personalities and issues. In the real world, this is common sense. In Washington, D.C., this is considered radical.

As I’ve said before, the tea party’s best chances for “sustain[ing] itself after November” lie in changing the way Americans engage with politics and politicians — for changing the framework for debate, not working within the old one. And it needs to be done locally before it can expect to have more than a fleeting impact nationally.

I don’t think Armey and Kibbe are wrong about their description of the tea party to date. But if they are right about its intention to remake the GOP nationally, I think the movement will end up using its energies in ways that don’t fulfill its potential.

P.S. — As a challenge to those who will come on here and disparage tea partiers, try to say something more original and insightful than accusing all or most of them of racism.

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Bruno

August 17th, 2010
12:35 pm

“The American values of individual freedom, fiscal responsibility and limited government bind the ranks of our movement.”

And if that remains the core message without taking any detours into religious intolerance or other such un-American nonsense, then the tea-partiers will be a good thing for both the Republican Party and America.

The bottom line, Kyle, is that the Democrats are going to lose big in November unless the Repubs shoot themselves in the foot by diverting attention away from these core conservative values. Can they avoid the temptation?? (Hint, all the furor over the building of the community center/mosque in NYC is a great example of diverting attention away from core conservative values).

rant and roll

August 17th, 2010
12:36 pm

There are two Tea Parties – the common American unhappy with the antics of both parties. The Tea Party gives them a voice.

The other Tea Party is lead by the Conservative Elite. They are the ones that call moderate republicans “too liberal”. They are the ones that see bipartisan as weakness. The Conservative Elite do not support the Big Tent philosophy of Reagan.

Country before Party.

Rightwing Troll

August 17th, 2010
12:50 pm

There’s the beauty of the tea baggers “spontaneous order.”, it’s been so perfectly orchestrated that it almost seems like soemthing new and fresh instead of a recycling of failed and never-saw-light-of-day ideas from the far right fringes.

What new ideas have emerged from the “true freedom loving” beast that calls itself the Tea Party?

Bruno

August 17th, 2010
12:53 pm

For what it’s worth, here’s my post from last November in response to AmVet’s question as to what the Republicans could do to attract more voters:

1) Return to true conservative values such as limited government, fiscal responsibility, individual freedom/responsibility.

(2) Stay out of people’s personal lives. Accept that abortion is here to stay regardless of your personal feelings about it.

(3) Distance the party from religious extremists. It’s not worth alienating the middle to appeal to the far right. And that doesn’t mean compromising conservative principles. Strict “constructionists” respect the non-establishment clause IMO.

(4) Return to a more limited foreign policy. Following 9/11, some type of military response was required, IMO, but 2 long dragged wars cannot be considered a great outcome.

Matti

August 17th, 2010
12:55 pm

That tea would taste better with a little honey, IMO. Right now it smells like a mixture of vinegar and ammonia, and I’m not inclined to give it a swirl on the tongue.

Horrible Horrace

August 17th, 2010
12:56 pm

Sure…why not. The Republicans are on the take just as much as the Democrappers and Imam Obama. I look forward to voting for a member of the TP!!

“Overthrowing the establishment is now become the priorty of the people”. Author Unknown.

Zora

August 17th, 2010
12:58 pm

I’m very confused by some people I know that are pretty staunch Republicans/Tea Partiers. One is my husband’s niece, 33 years old, unmarried with a baby. She has an Associates Degree in something like Biotechnology and has worked in 2 major hospital labs. She also has many years of experience as a bartender. She also has completed training to become a practical nurse. But she chooses to sit at home and collect government aid and Medicaid for herself and the baby.
The other person I know is 26 years old, bright, capable, extremely personable, and a very strong and vocal Christian. She chose not to further her education past high school. She works as a waitress. Last week she applied for Medicaid because she has no health insurance.
Both of these people vote Republican. One is a strong part of the Religious Right. The other is a strong supporter of our military and was very opposed to Obama Care.
I don’t get it . What does being a Republican mean anymore? Does anybody know?

Horrible Horrace

August 17th, 2010
1:00 pm

Those two examples sound more like the typical Democrapper. I suggest Zora is trying to pee down our back and convince us its raining.

Kinda like Imam Obama who will doo doo in your cornflakes then try to convince you its brown sugar.

Redneck Convert (R---and proud of it)

August 17th, 2010
1:05 pm

Well, I see some gut shot another guy in the face outside a Waffle House in Cobb County. I sure hope he was Liscenced to Carry in this state. Else he might could be in a whole lot of trouble.

Anyway, people got no reason to be afraid of us Tea Partiers. After we take over and get rid of Social Security and Medicare and all the guvmint payouts to a bunch of jobless bums and welfare cheats, we aim to turn this country back to the way it was back in the 1920s. You might could see more people walking around with tin cups or selling apples and pencils, but at least you’ll be rid of the UnAmerican Equal Rights laws.

My advise is for you to be real nice to the rich people so’s they’ll be nice to you when we’re finished with our work. You’re going to need their help.

Have a good p.m. everybody.

Bruno

August 17th, 2010
1:10 pm

“I’m very confused by some people I know that are pretty staunch Republicans/Tea Partiers.”

Zora–Your examples only prove how unreliable self-assessment is. Conservative is as conservative does.

“That tea would taste better with a little honey”

Matti–Point well made. Any type of salesmanship begins with winning the confidence of the person you are selling to. Hateful rhetoric has never inspired much confidence. The conservative message is a good one, just wish its proponents could find a way to package it more sweetly. BTW, I like your new blog handle, much more sleek than your last.

AmVet

August 17th, 2010
1:13 pm

The Tea Party has some enormous problems.

The makeup is 89% white, 1% black. And I thought the GOP was the Big Tent Party!

Most Tea Party supporters are Republican, white, male, married and older than age 45. Very bad demographics.

30% think President Obama was born outside the United States, And therein lies the correct observation that the loon factor is much too high.

Although touted as a grass roots effort it is really astro-turfed. Much of the genesis has been through Republican PACs, Republican operatives like Dick Armey, Newt Gingrich and Jim Demint, Republican think tanks like Freedom Works, and of course the granddaddy of Republican Misinformation – Fox News.

My best guess is that they’ll be gone and firmly back in the GOP’s lunatic fringe in a year or two…

Linda

August 17th, 2010
1:15 pm

The Tea Party supports the Contract for America at

http://www.thecontract.org/

1. Protect the constitution
2. Reject cap & trade
3. Demand a balanced budget
4. Enact fundamental tax reform
5. Restore fiscal responsibility & constitutionally limited govt.
6. End runaway govt. spending
7. Defund, repeal & replace govt.-run health care
8. Pass an “all-of-the-above” energy policy
9. Stop the pork
10 Stop the tax hikes

Jefferson

August 17th, 2010
1:16 pm

The GOP lacks credibility. In GA and in the US the GOP have not performed after elected. In the US they governed so bad that a black man with a funny name is now the President. Yep they need to regroup.

Matti

August 17th, 2010
1:18 pm

Bruno @ 12:53,

Hey! Your suggestions harken me back to the days of old-school Republicans, many of whom I was tremendously fond. In the days of my youth, I listened respectfully to the elder gents as they explained the fundamentals of their politics as they relate to business, personal responsibility, freedom, duty to the military, and fiscal conservatism. I didn’t always agree with the positions they supported, but I respected the discussion and the enlightenment and perspective they offered. And, (much to my father’s chagrin), many times I did agree.

Why do you suppose this modern bunch so stubbornly chooses hard right instead of reason? I’m not a math whiz, but I can see that driving the middle away isn’t the smart thing to do.

Bruno

August 17th, 2010
1:19 pm

“The makeup is 89% white, 1% black. And I thought the GOP was the Big Tent Party!”

AmVet–I’m sure you know that most blacks agree with the Republican Party platform on an issue-by-issue basis. But when it comes time to pull the lever in the voting booth, 95% punch Democrat. I’ve asked several black bloggers over the years why this is the case and what it would take to make the Republican Party more inclusive, but have never gotten a straight answer other than references to Affirmative Action. Just my opinion, but I think the Dems have simply bought their votes with promises of preferential treatment.

Any suggestions on your part to make the Republican Party more inclusive?

Bruno

August 17th, 2010
1:22 pm

“Why do you suppose this modern bunch so stubbornly chooses hard right instead of reason? I’m not a math whiz, but I can see that driving the middle away isn’t the smart thing to do.”

Matti, for the life of me, I can’t think of a good answer to your question.

Horrible Horrace

August 17th, 2010
1:23 pm

If blacks prefer to stay with the Democrappers the so be it. They have been doing so for quite sometime and the Dems have yet to fullfill the promises made to them.

If blacks want to join the TP or Reps then they should if they dont then that is of course their choice. It wont put any boils on my ass one way or the other.

CJ

August 17th, 2010
1:25 pm

This Freedomworks statement is the heart of the con that is the Tea Party movement: “The American values of individual freedom, fiscal responsibility and limited government bind the ranks of our movement.”

The fact remains that the Tea Party movement is primarily made up of people who call themselves conservative, even thought they’re not, and almost always vote Republican. And contrary to being a grass roots movement, it’s 100 percent corporate-driven (explore where Freedomworks gets most of their funding) and media-driven.

In truth, those who associate themselves with the Tea Party movement, such as it is, didn’t believe in individual freedom and limited government when they voted for the guy who arrested American citizens and held them indefinitely. They didn’t believe in individual freedom and limited government when Bush directed the N.S.A. to spy on American citizens without warrants. They didn’t believe in limited government when Bush abused the application of signing statements and pushed the unitary executive theory. They certainly don’t believe in individual freedom and limited government when they argue on behalf of giving corporations (i.e., paper entities) rights under our Constitution, equating money with speech such that those with the most money have the most speech, taking away a woman’s right to choose, telling homosexuals that they can’t marry, arresting people on the spot if they don’t have a birth certificate or an American passport on them, or telling peaceful religious practitioners that they can’t worship or pray in a building because the name of the room in which they pray is foreign sounding (e.g., mosque).

Nor did they believe in fiscal responsibility when they voted for the guys who took large surpluses, turned them into growing deficits, more than doubled the national debt, and drove us into the worst economic downturn since Hoover. They don’t believe in fiscal responsibility when they advocate on behalf of Republicans who intend to renew non-stimulative tax cuts for households with income exceeding $250,000 year at a cost of trillions over the course of the decade. They don’t believe in fiscal responsibility when the budget primarily advocated by the party they support doesn’t even purport to balance the budget for decades and shifts the tax burden to the poor and middle class via a value-added tax (i.e. Paul Ryan’s “Roadmap”). They don’t believe in fiscal responsibility when they’ve offered zero specific spending cuts that would have any significant impact on the deficits, such as reducing agricultural subsidies, reducing wasteful defense spending, or most importantly, reducing health care costs affecting Medicaid and Medicare.

These examples are just the tip of the iceberg. The conservative/Tea Party movement is a full-fledged scam, and I don’t know whether to be angry at or feel sorry for those who fall for it.

Bruno

August 17th, 2010
1:26 pm

Not sure if it’s your particular “cup of tea”, Matti, but here’s a sweet love song that’s been in my head for a few months now:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZiGKumYBLLE

HDB`

August 17th, 2010
1:27 pm

The question that I have persistently asked but have received no feedback is this: Where was this level of vitriol when the nation was BUSHwhacked?

We all know that there is a level of racial animus in the reactions of the Tea Party and the GOP; to say otherwise is to be up-river (in denial!)! The Tea Party, seeking to return the nation to failed policies enacted under prior GOP Administrations (Reagan, Bush41/43), have no options other than tax cuts for those who don’t need it….and cut Medicare and Social Secutiry to those who DO!

Bruno August 17th, 2010
12:53 pm

To add to your list:

1) Expand the membership roles — don’t limit yourselves to the Caucasians OTP…enlist those who live on the southside of the city…..different ethnicites….different cultures…different IDEAS!!

2) Don’t just hold rallies at the State Capital or the Gwinnett Center….try AU Center, College Park…..

3) Embrace the idea of dialogue…..not hyperbole!

4) Diversify your informational sources……FOX News is NOT the only correct source of information!

5) Remember – right is not ALWAYS right!! Hannity, Beck, Limbaugh, et. al., only say what they do to misinform you!!

Jefferson

August 17th, 2010
1:27 pm

So the tea are the wanna be “real” cons, not the neo cons that Reagan ushered in. I don’t think they have the political guts to do what they say.

The Aristocrat

August 17th, 2010
1:28 pm

The Tea Party and the GOP need to concentrate their focus on a narrower profile of political objectives as outlined above. Their greatest weakness is their divisiveness on social issues. If the GOP could put its other agendas on the back burner for two+ years, it could probably accomplish a number of its fiscal objectives AND put a member in the White House.

wallbanger

August 17th, 2010
1:34 pm

Here is what I want: individual freedom, fiscal responsibility and limited government. I want people who have babies to have the means to support those babies before they become impregnated. I want not to support other people’s food habits and homes. I am fine with my taxes going to Medicare/SS cause I paid in the max every year for those things, but I am not fine with my taxes going to support numerous generations of welfare families, who spawn like roaches.

RC

August 17th, 2010
1:36 pm

I would assess the tea party movement as one that has elements of right wing reactionaries, as well as some well intentioned folks that are simply angry about the current state of affairs in DC. Having said that it is an extreme movement that will likely alienate those who are moderate, and looking for sensible solutions to our problems.

Strict consitutional applications to our problems heralds back to the days of States Rights and we know how that ended. My suggestion is that folks turn down the volume and look for sensible, expedient solutions to the many problems we face in this country.

Simply being angry and throwing the bums out is not the entire solution to our problems. Anytime we have been faced with major problems in this country we look for people to blame. I may suggest that we get the government we deserve, and that the first place to look for blame is right where we are sitting. There are good, sensible folks out there that want to solve our problems, but I don’t think they rest with extremists that wish to throw the baby out with the bathwater.

barking frog

August 17th, 2010
1:37 pm

groups without hierarchy tend to splinter off
and fizzle out.

AmVet

August 17th, 2010
1:38 pm

Bruno, probably no surprise here, but on most matters of import, I see negligible difference between the Tweedledee and Tweedledum Parties.

it is almost exclusively in the purview of social or “wedge” issues that the differences are glaring.

As long as the neo-cons still cling to the 1950s – trying to make abortion dangerous, deadly and illegal again, polluting the US Constitution with DOMA and flag burning nonsense, trying to get prayer back into public schools, amongst many, many other reactionary notions – they are screwed. Plain and simple.

Some contend if they do these things then they are just liberals. Nonsense.

Throw in an enormously large dosage anti-environmentalism, war first, war last, war always and being soft on crime, endless salacious scandals, hyper-corruption, vast fraud, payoffs, bribery and abuse and voila, you have the perfect storm for the back to back electoral disasters of 2006 and 2008.

To the tune of a staggering 93% loss rate in contested elections for the US Congress, governorships and the White House. Including a never to be repeated ZERO for 36 in 2006.

Whether it is a fair assessment or not, the GOP particularly beginning with Reagan and his Wars on Drugs and Wars on Pornography – have been viewed as trying to legislate morality and force non-believers into their fold. And outside of the most Puritanical areas of the country, that dog ain’t gonna hunt.

Horrible Horrace

August 17th, 2010
1:45 pm

The War on Drugs was Nixons…if I recall correctly.

Matti

August 17th, 2010
1:45 pm

Bruno,

Nice tune! You’re still a romantic at heart, it would seem.

@@

August 17th, 2010
1:53 pm

Love these two comments:

1) from “the link”–[L]et us be clear about one thing: The tea party movement is not seeking a junior partnership with the Republican Party, but a hostile takeover of it.

And this one from the comment section within “the link”–“You in Washington have voided your right – on loan from us – to govern. We will now remove you.”

I would just add…we will remove you, be ye Republican or Democrat.

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Bruno:

Not sure if it’s your particular “cup of tea”, Matti, but here’s a sweet love song that’s been in my head for a few months now: “Inside My Love???”

What’s the matter….pickin’s gettin’ slim out there in the real world? Gotta bring your “smooth moves” into the virtual world?

Life, for you, is a box of “chocolate” covered cherries.

HDB`

August 17th, 2010
1:55 pm

Bruno August 17th, 2010
1:19 pm

“The makeup is 89% white, 1% black. And I thought the GOP was the Big Tent Party!”

AmVet–I’m sure you know that most blacks agree with the Republican Party platform on an issue-by-issue basis. But when it comes time to pull the lever in the voting booth, 95% punch Democrat. I’ve asked several black bloggers over the years why this is the case and what it would take to make the Republican Party more inclusive, but have never gotten a straight answer other than references to Affirmative Action. Just my opinion, but I think the Dems have simply bought their votes with promises of preferential treatment.

Any suggestions on your part to make the Republican Party more inclusive?”

Bruno, I’ll take a stab at that for you:

There are a myriad of reasons that the preponderance of African-Americans vote Democratic…but I will only speak for myself:

1) Republicans/Conservatives have embraced a racist paradigm since 1964 and have yet to refute it! Republicans fail to remember that prior to 1964, the GOP would get the majority of the black vote…but since the Dixiecrats infiltrated the party and Goldwater’s extremism became the party platform, the party has been antithetical to black interests. Note the Southern Strategy to marginalize the black vote; Reagan’s support for segregation in 1980 in Philadelphia, MS; Jesse Helm’s campaing against Havey Gantt in North Carolina; GHWBush’s use of “Willie Horton” ads in 1988; Colin Powell being booed off the stage at the 2004 GOP Convention…….

2) Conservatives/Republicans distort Affirmative Action!! The persistence of conservatives’ claims that Affirmative Action discriminates against whites is a fallacy! The greatest beneficiaries of Affirmative Action have been WHITE WOMEN!! All Affirmative Action did was to grant access to education and employment to those who had been previously denied….particularly people of color. Note: your conservative paramours (Clarence Thomas, for example) were beneficiaries of Affirmative Action….how did he get ADMITTED into Holy Cross in the late 60s??

3) Conservatives/Republicans wish to eliminate programs that allowed minority advancement! Cutting the education budget….wishing to eliminate the Department of Education….elinimating Affirmative Action…these are just a FEW!! Note: If the “Rooney Rule” is good enough for the NFL…in that coaches of color must be CONSIDERED (note the word!) for openings…why isn’t it good enough for society…since there is a dearth of minority representation in the management ranks??

4) Conservatives/Republicans won’t canvass the inner cities!! Note the Hannity “FreedomFest” last week; it was in GWINNETT! The GOP purposely excludes!! Why doesn’t a GOP candidate ask for votes in West End, Adamsville, College Park, South Dekalb?? Why doesn’t a GOP candidate hold a rally on AU Center’s campus, East Point, Collier Heights??

5) Conservatives/Republicans do not see minorities as constituents!! Whatever policies the GOP envokes mostly have adverse effects on minorities….and they don’t care!!

6) Conservatives/Republicans do NOT want to entertain diverse thoughts from minorities! Note Colin Powell’s treatment and his statement: “I didn’t leave the party; the party left ME!” If a minority does not kowtow to the conservative paradigm, he’s branded anything BUT an American!

7) Conservatives/Republicans do not believe that racism still exists….and use the law to promote such!! Conservatives cry against “unfair competition”…that minorities will get a job before a white person would…but note the number of CEO’s/managers.executives that are people of color or women! Also note how the law is being used to discriminate against minorities…laws like Arizona SB 1070…which promote racial profiling and can lead towards the creation of a police state!!

To make the GOP more attractive to minorities:

1) OUTREACH!! Don’t just canvass Gwinnett, Cobb…..come into the inner cities and ASK FOR OUR VOTES…treat us as constituents!!

2) Embrace diverse ideas…..right is NOT always right!!

3) Make policy more minority-embracable!

4) Revoke the “Southern Strateegy” and the racist paradigms that are the basis of the modern GOP!!

5) Refute laws like SB 1070……

That would be a beginning……..(just MY opinion……)!!

AmVet

August 17th, 2010
2:06 pm

Horace, you are correct. Tricky Dick coined the term and implemented the Comprehensive Drug Abuse Prevention and Control Act of 1970.

But it was Ronnie “BIG government” Reagan who, in his uniquely gifted way, created the Office of National Drug Control Policy and absolutely EXPLODED the size, scope, cost and interference of the hated federal government. He was the genius behind the *central coordination* of drug-related legislative, security, diplomatic, research and health policy throughout the government.

And it was just the beginning…

HDB`

August 17th, 2010
2:07 pm

Bruno….another thing:

Convervatives/Republicans keep bringing up the Democrats’ history with racism…but fail to remember their own!! Every time I may put forth examples of Republican racism, conservatives keep bringing up Robert Byrd and the KKK. Granted, Byrd was a member…but he refuted the same later in life….and his voting record shows the change!! John McCain, Jesse Helms and Ronald Reagan were against the MLK Holiday….but Reagan signed it knowing that his veto would’ve been overridden…and McCain had to change course when the NFL threatened to move the Super Bowl from Arizona….it would’ve cost his beer distributorship MILLIONS!! Conservatives/Republicans fail to remember that the GOP was CO-FOUNDED by both black and white people…but now, it is 95% white!! (Just further explanation!)

Matti

August 17th, 2010
2:10 pm

AmVet,

I still remember cracking up regularly when Reagan was President. (The “me me me” decade.. , his constant “quips”… ah, good times.) Remember this?

“Get big government off our backs!!!” … followed by: “Here, pee in this cup. We have the right to sniff it so we’ll know what you did last weekend.” Whaaaa?

Bruno

August 17th, 2010
2:17 pm

“What’s the matter….pickin’s gettin’ slim out there in the real world? Gotta bring your “smooth moves” into the virtual world?”

Not having a job tends to put a damper on the love life, @@, among other things. I may be broadcasting from my mom’s basement in a few months if something positive doesn’t happen soon.

Horrible Horrace

August 17th, 2010
2:19 pm

The DEA should be enforcing the use of drugs. If Granny doenst take her meds to *bonk bonk* on the head. If big fat Susie doesnt take her thyroid medicine then she gets a rappin with the night-stick.

HDB`

August 17th, 2010
2:21 pm

CJ August 17th, 2010
1:25 pm

You’re so on point……..SO ON POINT!!

HDB`

August 17th, 2010
2:24 pm

Bruno August 17th, 2010
2:17 pm
“Not having a job tends to put a damper on the love life, @@, among other things. I may be broadcasting from my mom’s basement in a few months if something positive doesn’t happen soon.”

Hang in there…the market is slowly changing…but it IS changing!! When the GOP was in the White House, I went through periods of unemployment that lasted up to TWO YEARS…but I made it through!! I was able to find employment when the Administration changed within 90 days!!

Your time will come!!

Jefferson

August 17th, 2010
2:27 pm

Nancy needed something to do, so the drug war was born. What a waste of time and money.

Bruno

August 17th, 2010
2:28 pm

CJ @ 1:05–Great examples of how the Republicans have strayed far, far away from true conservatism. Don’t forget, however, that the Tea Party backlash began in 2008 in response to Bush’s failed policies. It’s more of a Reform Movement within the Republican Party than it is a reaction to obama and the Dems, IMO.

HDB–Excellent points @ 1:27, 1:55, and 2:07, which I would like to address more specifically after I take a food break. Thanks for the input.

@@

August 17th, 2010
2:31 pm

Bruno:

Not having a job tends to put a damper on the love life, @@,

Only if you’re paying for it.

Maybe you’re pursuing the wrong kind of women…superficial and materialistic.

When I first met my husband, he had a job, but no disposable income. Only transportation was a motorcycle. Only disposable income was in a jar. But FUN?????

Never a dull moment.

Ralph

August 17th, 2010
2:31 pm

I would not say that all the Tea Party folks are motivated by racism. But the ones I know are the sons and daughters of folks who were the most die-hard segregationists 40 years ago.

Hillbilly Deluxe

August 17th, 2010
2:32 pm

Guess if you stick around here long enough, you see something new. First time in my life I’ve ever seen the phrase “might could” used in the second person. It loses its meaning that way.

CrazyInGA

August 17th, 2010
2:33 pm

The REAL Tea Party Contract for America REVEALED:

1. Protect the constitution; but don’t allow gays to marry or children born here to be citizens.
2. Reject cap & trade; however, as a conservative I believe that our taxes are outrageous and corporations would be more profitable if we manufacture and outsource production of our products in China and Mexico. You know those people over there work for and expect a lot less money and/or benefits. That will increase revenue and payout much larger bonuses.
3. Demand a balanced budget; but its okay to fund everything on credit, like we did a few years ago. The budget just needs to have the appearance of being balanced for the time being.
4. Enact fundamental tax reform; my grandchildren have worked so hard for their inheritance and why should I care if they have to drive their Mercedes Benz on dirt roads; one day they will have personal aircraft vassals.
5. Restore fiscal responsibility & constitutionally limited govt.; back to the push we Republicans have for “not” allowing gays to marry, adopt, etc…. or to change the constitution birth right citizenship.
6. End runaway govt. spending; unless it’s to promote war and republican own private companies that benefit.
7. Defund, repeal & replace govt.-run health care; unless it’s my military healthcare benefits paid for by tax dollars or has to do with social security benefits. My old folks were fortunate enough to save (steal) from hardworking lower class citizens making minimum wage on my assembly lines, so the heck with other citizens. If they couldn’t save with minimum wage, don’t expect me to feel sorry for them.
8. Pass an “all-of-the-above” energy policy – except the kind that would ruin my view in the back yard. Place those wind mills and solar panel companies on the south side. You know where those people live, because it cost a lot less money.
9. Stop the pork –unless you are building a bridge to know where.
10 Stop the tax hikes; I wouldn’t want my grandchildren to have to suffer in the future. They shouldn’t have to pay off debt that I created on credit. That’s for the little people.

AmVet

August 17th, 2010
2:33 pm

The disastrous legacy of the Reagan’s Failure, aka, the War on Drugs is two-fold. First millions of kids went to jail for smoking grass.

Secondly and just as tragic, the entire canard was used to portray a political party that was “Tough on Crime!”

All the while taking mountains of bribe money to look the other way and to pay no attention whatsoever to the explosive corporate crime ring that was to take over the sovereignty of this country and bring her to her knees in September 2008.

You did a heckuva job, cons.

In 1994, it was reported that the “War on Drugs” results in the incarceration of one million Americans each year.[11] Of the related drug arrests, about 225,000 are for possession of cannabis, the fourth most common cause of arrest in the United States.

In 2008, 1.5 million Americans were arrested for drug offenses. 500,000 were imprisoned.

In the 1980s, while the number of arrests for all crimes was rising 28%, the number of arrests for drug offenses rose 126%. The United States has a higher proportion of its population incarcerated than any other country in the world for which reliable statistics are available, reaching a total of 2.2 million inmates in the U.S. in 2005.

Legend of Len Barker

August 17th, 2010
2:37 pm

Lindsey Graham frustrates me with his combination his bizarre switches in stances and beliefs, but to quote him when he met with a group of Tea Party members, “What do you want to do? You take back your country — and do what with it?’”

Matti

August 17th, 2010
2:38 pm

Bruno,

I’m feeling ya, and all the others who are un- or under-employed. The pinch is evident everywhere, including your profession. No money or no time to take care of those things. With regard to its affect on romance, no doubt that a well-employed man preferred by many, especially those who are struggling. BUT… not all women feel that way. Many who still have their jobs (and subsequently work longer hours and do more for less) would be thrilled to have somebody waiting for them at the end week, somebody who could help with things around the house they never have time to get to, or to sweep them away to an evening of music and laughter at some local dive bar, or just to rub their feet and pull their minds out of the office and back to what’s natural. Perhaps (just departing from my norm to be an optimist for a minute), being without a big wad of cash in your pocket is the best way to find Ms. Right, instead of Ms. Burnthroughitall. Maybe? Food for thought, and best wishes.

Jefferson

August 17th, 2010
2:40 pm

My problem with the moteas is where were you when the lights went out ? All of a sudden everything is bad to hear them talk. Well I’ve got news for the rainy day parade crowd, It’s getting better. Most problems people moan and bitch about is not the fault of the US gov’t.

HDB`

August 17th, 2010
2:40 pm

Bruno August 17th, 2010
2:28 pm
” Don’t forget, however, that the Tea Party backlash began in 2008 in response to Bush’s failed policies. It’s more of a Reform Movement within the Republican Party than it is a reaction to obama and the Dems, IMO.”

Unsure of that…..it may have begun organization in 2008…but the level of vitriol amplified volumes when the Obama Administration came aboard! Note Ralph’s entry @ 2:31…..he’s quite accurate in his appraisal!!

jconservative

August 17th, 2010
2:42 pm

“The American values of individual freedom, fiscal responsibility and limited government bind the ranks of our movement.”

That statement in and of itself is a wonderful concept.

But here is the problem. The “buts” start. The “except for” items start popping up.

It is impossible to have “individual freedom” and “limited government” and have a long list on your social change agenda.

It is impossible to have “fiscal responsibility” when one does not recognize the roots of the present fiscal crisis.

I am all for “individual freedom, fiscal responsibility and limited government”. The problem is that those who say they believe it really do not believe it. They have exceptions, buts, and what if’s, that together destroy the concept.

“Individual freedom” means most things are none of government’s business.

“Limited government” means stop expecting government to solve every problem that pops up.

I am afraid it is way to late.

Horrible Horrace

August 17th, 2010
2:42 pm

I never said no to drugs unless I have already had to many… ;) Obviously this was a rare occassion when Reagan was wrong.