T.H.R.O. poster is an ancestor, and warning, for tea party
“I’M MAD AS HELL AND I’M NOT GOING TO TAKE IT ANYMORE!”
That angry message in bold typeface; the glaring face of a retiree named Jack Gargan; his Jeffersonian list of grievances against Congress — it was all so familiar as I unrolled the poster, a relic from my childhood and the tea party’s ancestry.
Twenty years ago, Gargan used a series of newspaper ads to start a grassroots movement: T.H.R.O., or Throw the Hypocritical Rascals Out. I remember the bumper sticker on my dad’s Buick LeSabre, the related parody from Fox 97’s Shower Stall Singers: “(Those Congress Checks Are Bouncing Like a) Red Rubber Ball.”
I came across a poster print of the ad while helping my parents move houses recently. Reading the list of indictments Gargan made against Washington, I could only reflect that the tea party came into being because so little has changed:
“I’M APPALLED,” he wrote, “that Congress continues to hock the future of our children and grandchildren. Our national debt is now over 3 TRILLION dollars, and going higher by the minute. ENOUGH IS ENOUGH!”
The debt has grown by $10 trillion since then; it rises by about $2 million a minute according to USDebtClock.org.
“I’M ANGRY that, after being told by the American public that their existing salary was already an overpayment on their abilities, [Congress] turned right around and arrogantly voted themselves the biggest raise in history!”
Since 1990, the salary of representatives has risen by 80 percent, and senators by 77 percent, to $174,000 a year.
“I’M LIVID when I recall how, in typically gutless congressional style, they let an ‘outside commission’ stick the younger American workers with a raise in Social Security taxes … knowing full well there will not be enough money to fund that same ‘baby-boom’ generation who will be footing most of the bill.”
The baby boomers are beginning to retire with Social Security afloat. But there is a change: Now Congress leaves it to the president to appoint a National Commission on Fiscal Responsibility and Reform.
“I’M ENRAGED when I see money pouring in to incumbents from PACs, special interest groups who use their money to stifle public interest, to congressmen who will sell their soul for another term in office.”
Political action committees, or PACs, are still around. But the McCain-Feingold campaign-finance law pushed much of their “soft money” into 527 groups that campaign with still more opacity.
“I’M DISGUSTED at the number of shady dealings by members of Congress …. Something’s mighty wrong with the system when 98% of incumbents are re-elected. The other 2% don’t lose. They either go out feet first, or in total disgrace for conduct too embarrassing even for congressional standards!”
In 2008, about 94 percent of incumbents who sought re-election won. Gargan’s list goes on, but you get the idea.
Since 1990, control of Congress has gone from the Democrats to the GOP and back again. But the lesson of Gargan and T.H.R.O. isn’t partisan.
After backing Ross Perot in 1992, Gargan’s movement slowly fizzled out. The disengagement from those who thought like Gargan was costly. By the time they woke up in 2009, we were close to the brink.
Whatever happens this November, constant Gargan-esque vigilance will be needed afterward. Two more decades of neglect, and we’re Greece.
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Don't forget
July 30th, 2010
7:16 pm
First? Wow Kyle 3 articles in one day?
Don't forget
July 30th, 2010
7:32 pm
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CJ
July 30th, 2010
7:37 pm
“Throw the Hypocritical Rascals Out”
Blame the voters (and the non-voters), not the politicians.
With only about 1 out of 5 registered voters (and a smaller portion of eligible voters) turning out for Georgia’s primaries a couple of weeks ago—many of whom didn’t know who was running until they had the ballot in front of them—the level of apathy and ignorance is astounding.
A functioning democracy (right-winger: “We don’t live in a democracy. We live in a Republic!”) relies on us to be informed while, incidentally, the political right banks on our ignorance.
saywhat?
July 30th, 2010
8:12 pm
The teaparty did not come into being “because so little changed”. They came into being because something DID change- the Republicans were kicked out of power after failing miserably at governing.
Right wing P.R. firms started and financed this fake grass roots movement, with free publicity disguised as news coverage provided by Fox News.The ranks of the unfortunately self-named “tea b@ggers” (so called because they mailed tea bags to Democratic members of Congress) were quickly swelled by sheeple responding to empty and usually inflammatory rhetoric devoid of any basis in reality (SOCIALISM!!!! FASCISM!!!! DESTROYING AMERICA!!! BIRTH CERTIFICATE!!!! SECRET MUSLIM!!!!!). After finding themselves as a movement without a clue, they finally hung their pointy white hats on the themes you have identified.
So while you are (partly) correct in stating that these problems are unchanged, they most definitely were not the impetus for today’s tea party movement. It was instead started only to instigate loud opposition from the fringes of the right wing to a duly elected President. It was and will always be an example of political cynicism at its worst.
Don't forget
July 30th, 2010
8:25 pm
I’m not buying all that about the tea party either. Why didn’t they get out in the streets about this little socialistic program?
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A9328-2005Feb8.html
The tea party is just the branch of the Republican party that goes nuts whenever a Democratic president is elected. They didn’t get out in the streets after Clinton was elected but they formed all their little militia’s and ran around in the woods with their guns talking about how there were “secret” black helicoptors flying around and a takeover of the US was imminent. Same fringe, different time.
@@
July 30th, 2010
8:38 pm
Deja vu on steroids.
Your last sentence would make a great bumper sticker, Kyle.
TWO MORE DECADES OF NEGLECT, AND WE’RE GREECE!
I would say change the spelling of Greece to Grease but that would leave people scratching their heads. Heck! with the electorate’s lack of attention to current events, they’d probably still scratch theirs heads with Greece.
Don't forget
July 30th, 2010
8:55 pm
As I recall, Perot’s big issue was NAFTA and that “loud sucking sound” of American jobs going overseas. Granted he also talked about deficits and lame politicians but I haven’t heard the tea party say anything about the loss of American jobs overseas.
Claude
July 30th, 2010
8:59 pm
We may reach Greece in less than two decades. I have been voting for almost 30 years. I’ve seen a lot of Presidents and Congressional leaders of both parties claim that there is some special circumstance that requires high deficits now, but that circumstance would soon pass and then it’s back to normal – normal being a balanced budget or close to it. I’ve seen a lot of special circumstance and not much normal.
Also, outright financial ruin is not the only reason to avoid running up the debt. We lose our flexibility to meet the financial costs of emergencies, like an earthquake or other natural disaster. Being dependent on other countries crimps our ability to articulate our national values. The Chinese have figured out that financing our deficits greatly reduces human rights complaints.
Legend of Len Barker
July 30th, 2010
9:45 pm
The more I research, the more I’ve come to believe that Dixiecrats are the direct ancestors of the Tea Party.
A lot of the same rhetoric about the quality of government and states’ rights were being tossed about in the 1960s. For example, a 1969 speech delivered by a state representative to the Citizens League for Better Government in Coffee County was called, “Mental Illness in the Health, Education, and Welfare Department.”
killerj
July 30th, 2010
9:59 pm
Ha,ha,ha,kick a Pub,slap a Dem,time to get rid of the mange,time for some borax and peroxide to get rid of the mites for a cleaner, healthy America,gunning for you crooked Z,s. Go tea party!
Wingnuts r hypocrites
July 30th, 2010
10:56 pm
I’m sure you wingnuts out there went bonkers over Hannity roasting a Weiner for refusing to commit to reading bills before he votes on them. And it’s a good point. But if it is such a good point, why didn’t he ask for a commitment from Congressman Peter King who was on the show with him? Is it ok for Republicans to not read bills, but not Democrats?
Not defending Weiner, who acted like a flustered idiot by not turning the tables back on Hannity and calling him on his hypocrisy, but will the Hannity sycophants who read this blog, many who are salivating over Hannity’s performance today justify the hypocrisy of not asking of King what he asked of Weiner?
This is Mrs.Norman Maine
July 30th, 2010
11:19 pm
“By the time they woke up in 2009, we were close to the brink.”
The brink of what?
TruthBe
July 31st, 2010
12:06 am
Wingnuts r hypocrites, like the entire democratic party. First of all it is the current group of liberal progressive perverted democrats that are in power causing all of the stupid bills. The democrats have these bils written and don’t take the time to read them before they FORCE them into law. Liberals like you Wingnuts r hypocrites, are the ones that are supporting criminal policies from this jackass of a president we have. Obama and his gang of criminals got to go. And you libs can go with him.
Thomas
July 31st, 2010
12:34 am
When Tea Party leaders accused the other party of a plan to kill our grandmothers and their followers actually believed it, I knew the first train to LooneyVille had left the station. This is more a Fox News creation, as they didn’t utter a peep while Bush was running the country, the military and the budget into the ground.
wingnuts r hypocrites
July 31st, 2010
2:10 am
TruthBe, I see you avoided the issue altogether. Did you see one word of defense in my post about Democrats? No, you did not. Did the post say it wasn’t a good idea to hold the Weiner’s feet to the fire. No, you did not. All that was asked was why didn’t Hannity ask both congressmen to make the same pledge.
No you just engaged in a typical knee jerk reaction that is so typical of both sides of the political spectrum. Chris Wallace gets all tingly when Obama’s name is mention, Hannity gets all tingly when Palin’s name is mentioned. It’s the exact same game played by both sides of the spectrum. This is the best we can do?
arnold
July 31st, 2010
6:02 am
Legend of Len Barker….. “The more I research, the more I’ve come to believe that Dixiecrats are the direct ancestors of the Tea Party.” They were also the precursor of the Republican Party in the south. The thinking is the same, only the name has changed from Democrat to Republican.
Lil' Barry Bailout
July 31st, 2010
8:15 am
More federal control and spending on schools, poorer school performance.
More welfare spending, more kids without families.
More government grants and loans for higher education, continuing increases in higher education costs.
More government spending and involvement in health care, more out of control medical cost increases.
I’m sure it’s all just a big coincidence.
ByeBye
July 31st, 2010
8:16 am
Hey “Don’t Forget” & “Saywhat” the largest identifiable group in the Tea Party, at over 30%, typically vote Democrat, followed by Independents then Republican. You may have sounded cute a year ago disparaging the Tea Party, but doing it now really shows your ignorance.
Lil' Barry Bailout
July 31st, 2010
8:17 am
Forgot one:
More government regulation of the financial industry, more frequent financial disasters.
Just another coincidence.
Don't forget
July 31st, 2010
8:32 am
ByeBye
July 31st, 2010
8:16 am
Hey “Don’t Forget” & “Saywhat” the largest identifiable group in the Tea Party, at over 30%, typically vote Democrat, followed by Independents then Republican. You may have sounded cute a year ago disparaging the Tea Party, but doing it now really shows your ignorance.
You clearly don’t have even the most basic of math skills.
Don't forget
July 31st, 2010
8:39 am
Lil’ Barry Bailout
July 31st, 2010
8:17 am
Forgot one:
More government regulation of the financial industry, more frequent financial disasters.
Just another coincidence.
I don’t have a problem with people who disagree or have different viewpoints but LBB, you simply make stuff up.
Ayn Rant
July 31st, 2010
9:15 am
Rotten government is only one aspect of the decline in America prosperity.
Our industry can’t produce the products that Americans and foreigners want to buy, so we incur trade deficits nearly as big as, and more serious than, the federal budget deficit. Our unregulated private enterprises spill and pollute with abandon while enjoying huge tax breaks for depleting the natural resources of the nation.
Our financial sector is self-obsessed, and oblivious to the needs of our capitalist economy which depends on investment and innovation. They gamble our capital base on exotic, deceptive financial instruments.
We spend trillions to support 50 million non-working retired/disabled folks on Social Security and Medicare. We spend hundreds of billions to house and feed more than 2 million non-working felons every year. But we’re not willing to provide the nation’s children with world-class nutrition, day-care, education, and health care.
Our military forces are scattered willy-nilly around the world with no definable mission or expected outcome. We continue to squander billions on advanced weapons systems to counter imaginary sophisticated enemies even though our real enemies are proved to be fanatical young men in T-shirts and sneakers armed with box-cutters.
American voters year after year slavishly re-elect the politicians who have created an untrustworthy government and failed to point the country toward a secure and prosperous future. They even re-elect the politicians who complain about the government they are put in charge of.
Now, some jerks begin to recognize a few problems with the nation and start a political movement to blame the government!
What I want to hear is solutions. Does anybody know where to start?
JP
July 31st, 2010
9:21 am
Good column Kyle, and I rarely agree with you on anything. I think the ultimate responsiblity lies with the voters. We keep putting these folks in office.
Don't forget
July 31st, 2010
9:41 am
“A sucker is born every day”
J D Hayworth is one of these tea party candidates. He was also a republican representative from 1997 to 2007. Here he is on an infomercial helping to explain how people can get government money. Sheer hypocrisy.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3WmeaywMcCE
Charles
July 31st, 2010
9:51 am
Now I know why Liberals want to be called Progressives now – they are ‘progressing’ us over the edge of the abyss at a record pace!
Will
July 31st, 2010
10:06 am
Great story Kyle.
Really does show that there is not a dime’s worth of difference between republicans and democrats when it comes to spending our money and raising money for their re-elections.
Of course, one could argue there are usually three reasons why incumbents almost always are re-elected: quality of opponent, voters have given up on the notion that change will make a difference and/or voters are satisfied with their incumbent.
It is sort of like annual polls about public education. Annually, public education receives low marks in polling UNTIL participants are asked about their child’s public school and then participants award high marks. Voters seem to overwhelming believe that Congress is a train wreck with the notable exception of their congressman.
Lil' Barry Bailout
July 31st, 2010
10:15 am
What I want to hear is solutions. Does anybody know where to start?
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President Ronald Reagan did, when he said the government is not the solution, government is the problem.
Without government, financial institutions that are stupid will fail and the capital they were using inefficiently is redeployed.
Without government, schools that suck will see their students move to schools that don’t suck.
Without government, insurance companies can design policies that meet the needs of their customers without expensive, wasteful mandates, and costs will go down. Insurance companies that charge too much lose customers.
Lil' Barry Bailout
July 31st, 2010
10:20 am
Will: public education receives low marks in polling UNTIL participants are asked about their child’s public school and then participants award high marks.
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A large percentage (more than half) of the teachers at our local elementary school send their own kids to private schools. Some vote of confidence.
Algonquin j. Calhoun
July 31st, 2010
10:50 am
Barry, shut up Stupid!
Algonquin j. Calhoun
July 31st, 2010
10:52 am
TruthBe
Go to hell moron!
nelsonhoward
July 31st, 2010
10:53 am
Jack Gargan went on to say “vote every incumbent Senator and Represenative out of office. How could we end up worse than we are now?” That is a fine question. We could not have a Congress that spends any more money than the one we have now.They are spending it much faster than it can be borrowed or printed. It would be impossible for a new Congress to lavish any more of the royal trappings of wealth on themselves. Think about it, Bill and Hillary are lavishing 10 or 12 million dollars on Chelsas wedding, even a royal potentate would have trouble scrimping that kind of change.
Could the environment be worse with the disaster in the Gulf and global warming. In my humble opinion, it could be no worse, every incumbent should be given the highway, “its my way or the highway” as a politician would say.
Algonquin j. Calhoun
July 31st, 2010
10:57 am
See this video and you’ll see the way Christian Republinazis view humanity. http://collateralmurder.com/
Grand Forks
July 31st, 2010
11:38 am
“See this video and you’ll see the way Christian Republinazis”
What a lovely little left wing retard.
Grand Forks
July 31st, 2010
11:39 am
“Barry, shut up Stupid!”
and then
“Go to hell moron!”
Kyle, I don’t know about you, but to me that seems like a couple of personal attacks.
tick…tick….tick….
Grand Forks
July 31st, 2010
11:40 am
“Chris Wallace gets all tingly when Obama’s name is mention”
Chris Matthews gets all tingly when Obama’s name is mention
FYT
Hillbilly Deluxe
July 31st, 2010
12:10 pm
As I recall, Perot’s big issue was NAFTA and that “loud sucking sound” of American jobs going overseas.
Perot may have been nuttier than a fruitcake in a lot of ways, but he looked like a modern day Nostradamus on that one.
The Phantom
July 31st, 2010
12:54 pm
Anger is not a blueprint for governance. It is, however, a very convenient stepladder for crooks, phonies, crackpots and tyrants to gain office.
Lil' Barry Bailout
July 31st, 2010
1:47 pm
Agreed. Which brings up the question…why does Obama hate America?
Don't forget
July 31st, 2010
1:54 pm
Hillbilly Deluxe
July 31st, 2010
12:10 pm
As I recall, Perot’s big issue was NAFTA and that “loud sucking sound” of American jobs going overseas.
Perot may have been nuttier than a fruitcake in a lot of ways, but he looked like a modern day Nostradamus on that one.
Agreed.
wingnuts r hypocrites
July 31st, 2010
3:02 pm
Looks like none of Hannity’s jock sniffers who read this blog can explain how Hannity isn’t a total hypocrite for asking Congressman Weiner to commit to reading every bill, but not asking Congressman King for the same commitment when they were both on the same show.
WikiReeks
July 31st, 2010
3:13 pm
There is nothing in the collateral”murder” video that would or should bring indictment against our military personnel. If journalists choose to fraternize with terrorists they can expect to get lit up with those same terrorists. The Apache pilot who responded sounded genuinely sorry that children were injured. A brother-in-arms tried to alleviate his guilt by telling the pilot the kids were brought into the line of fire by the terrorists.
Much ado about nothing.
If Afghanis or those among our military are killed as a result of the leaked documents, it will be Bradley Manning and Julian Assange who will have blood on their hands.
Real American
July 31st, 2010
3:56 pm
Lil’ Barry Bailout
July 31st, 2010
1:47 pm
Agreed. Which brings up the question…why does Obama hate America?
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He doesn’t, he just hates folks like you. So do I. kick rocks.
Road Scholar
July 31st, 2010
4:02 pm
History repeats itself.Do we learn? Oh, first you have to understand and not modify history to what YOU believe, but to what is recorded in books.
Cedric
July 31st, 2010
4:08 pm
One term limits or an overt revolution are the only options left as all else has failed. A staggered “class schedule” for the House (like that of the Senate) would be needed so that everybody doesn’t change at once. The current party system is broken and the taxpayer needs to be back in control of elected officials. Voting for the same old tired perps is a mockery and joke on us: witness 2008 national election and 2010 GA primaries.
Lil' Barry Bailout
July 31st, 2010
4:16 pm
Pretend American: He doesn’t, he just hates folks like you. So do I.
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Straight, white, employed, debt free, not on any welfare programs…no wonder the Idiot Messiah hates me. As for you, envy is not an American value, so it fits you perfectly.
wingnuts r hypocrites
July 31st, 2010
4:25 pm
@Lil’ Barry Bailout
The largest intrusion of the federal government into local education? A Democrat president? No, that was a Republican, George Bush.
Ignoring the advice of military advisers and going into a war with no clearly definable exit strategy? A Democrat president? No that was the Republican George Bush.
Look, we expect nanny state politicians to do what they do. But how do you criticize them only, when wingnuts are so hypocritical in regard to their own supposed philosophies?
Algonquin j. Calhoun
July 31st, 2010
5:55 pm
Grand Forks, yeah it is personal idiot! Go fork off!
Algonquin j. Calhoun
July 31st, 2010
6:38 pm
Rep. Anthony Weiner (D-N.Y.) went ballistic on the House floor Thursday over his Republican colleagues’ failure to pass a humanitarian amendment to the Public Health Services Act. The amendment would extend and improve health care benefits for 9/11 first responders who are now victims suffering from lasting health complications.
You’d think that as shamelessly as the Republinazis use the events and images of 911 they’d be willing to extend health benefits to the brave women and men who responded so selflessly to the great needs of those injured in the attack. Not so! As always, the duplicitous cowards talk of patriotism but gutlessly refuse to help the heroes they talk so glowingly about while campaigning for another chance to rob the taxpayers. Go to hell!
Lil' Barry Bailout
July 31st, 2010
7:45 pm
wingnuts r hypocrites: how do you criticize [Democrats] only, when wingnuts are so hypocritical in regard to their own supposed philosophies?
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I’m going to channel Kamchak here and challenge you to prove that I never criticized our President Bush for His education policy and spending or his prosecution of the Iraq/Afghanistan wars.
Didn’t think so.
Lil' Barry Bailout
July 31st, 2010
7:48 pm
Algonquin j. Calhoun: Rep. Anthony Weiner (D-N.Y.) went ballistic on the House floor Thursday over his Republican colleagues’ failure to pass a humanitarian amendment to the Public Health Services Act.
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Uh, Republicans don’t control either house of Congress, so please put the blame where it belongs, on the Democrats inability to craft legislation that can get even one or two bipartisan votes.
And please spare us the imagery of wieners going ballistic.
wingnuts r hypocrites
July 31st, 2010
7:59 pm
Lil’ Barry I don’t read the blogs enough to know if you do. I hope you did, because that’s the biggest problem I see with conservatives; not their philosophy, their hypocrisy.
I fully expect most Democrats to offer nanny state solutions that do as much to disempower as empower, but looking at the nanny state solutions the Republicans offer, as well as the political cover they give to those who have violated the rule of law, makes a mockery of their philosophical high ground.
If Hannity were consistent, he would have rightly held both Congressman King and the Weiner to a commitment to read every bill they pass, but the fact that he gave King a free pass shows him to be no more than a partisan hack.
Mr. Nads
July 31st, 2010
8:01 pm
Then Kyle , answer me this..
The Tea Party is a good thing and the black panthers are trouble- RIGHT OR WRONG ??
I NEED AN ANSWER.
Grand Forks
July 31st, 2010
8:38 pm
“Grand Forks, yeah it is personal idiot! Go fork off!”
Wow, what an original comeback, retard.
tick…tick…tick….
Grand Forks
July 31st, 2010
8:39 pm
“went ballistic on the House floor Thursday over his Republican colleagues’ failure to pass”
Calhoun has the IQ of a carrot. Guess she doesn’t realize that the demotards could pass it without republicans.
wingnuts r hypocrites
July 31st, 2010
8:44 pm
Yet Grand Forks can give us no reason not to call people like Hannity partisan hacks when they will ask the Weiner to commit to reading every bill, but won’t ask the same thing of Congressman King when they are both on the same show at the same time.
T Knight
July 31st, 2010
8:44 pm
Phantom…….. Anger is not a blueprint for governance. It is, however, a very convenient stepladder for crooks, phonies, crackpots and tyrants to gain office.
…….and makes foolish uninformed people blindly vote for who their husband, wife, union representive, pastor, favorite actor, favorite muscian, tell them too.
In the end we the people get screwed.
both sides of the coin
July 31st, 2010
8:48 pm
The fact of the matter is both sides are putting political posturing ahead of the first responders; both sides. Anyone not willing to admit this is being intellectually dishonest.
Ayn Rant
July 31st, 2010
9:10 pm
Oops! Lii’ Barry, you fell for the promises and the “philosophies” of an air-head actor-President without reviewing his abilities and accomplishments.
Reagan increased the size of government, initiated peacetime deficit spending, and created the economic recession that swept the hapless Bush, Sr. from office at the end of his first term.
The Clinton administration reduced the size of government, moved millions of people off welfare into jobs, pulled the economy and the stock market up from gloom to boom, and brought the federal budget from deep deficit to burgeoning surplus.
Why do you defend the Reagan administration for doing the opposite of what you suggest, and condemn the Clinton adminstration for doing what you wanted done?
See, that’s the problem with many American voters. They’re suckers for inept politicians who say what they want to hear.
Government isn’t the problem; you are the problem with government!
Lil' Barry Bailout
July 31st, 2010
9:50 pm
On the contrary. Our President Reagan pulled the country out of the malaise and economic disaster of the late 70s. He rebuilt a decimated military. And he restored the confidence of Americans in their country. The economy went on to grow for most of the next twenty years thanks to Him.
Now, all that is water under the bridge. Now we have a $3.5 trillion dollar federal government budget and a $1.5 trillion deficit. Thousands of new IRS agents on the way. Thousands more new federal employees in other departments. Near 10% unemployment. Possibly a double-dip recession. I’m just a little more interested in the disaster we have in office now than anyone we’ve had in the past.
Lil' Barry Bailout
July 31st, 2010
10:34 pm
Regarding the vote on health care for 9/11 first responders that Democrats couldn’t pass through the House, where they have a huge majority (from Yahoo News):
At the heart of the debate was a procedural maneuver made by Democrats to suspend the rules before consideration of the James Zadroga 9/11 Health and Compensation Act. The move allowed leadership to block potential GOP amendments to the measure.
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Hmmm, so it failed because the Democrats didn’t want to follow their own rules, so they could block any attempt at bipartisanship?
Why do Democrats hate 9/11 first responders?
both sides of the coin
July 31st, 2010
10:49 pm
“At the heart of the debate was a procedural maneuver made by Democrats to suspend the rules before consideration of the James Zadroga 9/11 Health and Compensation Act. The move allowed leadership to block potential GOP amendments to the measure.”
Thank you for pointing out Lil Barry, how both sides played politics with the issue.
uno
July 31st, 2010
11:10 pm
Incredibly, Reagan was actually the head of the govenment when he said this “In this present crisis, government is not the solution to our problem; government is the problem.” As is their habit, the right is wrong again.
Don't forget
August 1st, 2010
9:40 am
both sides of the coin
July 31st, 2010
8:48 pm
The fact of the matter is both sides are putting political posturing ahead of the first responders; both sides. Anyone not willing to admit this is being intellectually dishonest.
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Actually the dispute involved a Republican attempt to add immigration provisions to the 9/11 relief fund bill. This is a maneuver that has been used by both parties for decades or more to either get unwarranted pork spending into bills or provisions that are either politically embarassing or politically objectionable to the party in power. It is the so called “poison pill” that allows the party out of power to either kill good legislation or enact bad legislation as a cost for getting something done. This “tacking on” of completely unrelated provisions is a major reason why we get so much pork and bad legislation from the congress. In my opinion, it would make a lot more sense to let the minority party have more input into what legislation is considered than to let them tack these items onto unrelated bills.
Don't forget
August 1st, 2010
10:52 am
Dave R.
August 1st, 2010
10:34 am
“but I am very unlikely to support a conservative politician or party because of their broad generalizations and rigid thinking.”
And yet you broadly generalize conservatives with this very statement . . .
Just sayin’.
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Ok, point taken. I should have mentioned the exceptions such as Lindsey Graham, Susan Collins, Olympia Snow and probably a handful more I haven’t thought of and it doesn’t apply to all voters or bloggers but as Bob Dylan sang “It doesn’t take a weatherman to know which way the wind blows”
Bu Bar
August 1st, 2010
11:02 am
The tea party is civilized , the black panthers is not.
Watch Fox News .
Hannity
Beck
O’Reilly
Dobbs
Covuto
Nuff Said……………………………….
songbird
August 1st, 2010
3:23 pm
Bu Bar – “The tea party is civilized, the black panthers is (are) not. Nice grammar on your part. Keep watching Fox News. Your have the IQ of a carrot. lol
Bama Kid
August 1st, 2010
5:24 pm
Go change you your diaper you pansey boy. Liberal is in everything you say. You look it too.
Grand Forks
August 1st, 2010
7:38 pm
“Nice grammar on your part.”
Then she wrote
“Your have the IQ of a carrot. lol”
Gotta love stupid people.
Lil' Barry Bailout
August 1st, 2010
7:45 pm
Don’t forget: Ok, point taken. I should have mentioned the exceptions such as Lindsey Graham, Susan Collins, Olympia Snow and probably a handful more
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You haven’t named any CONSERVATIVES yet.
TruthBe
August 1st, 2010
8:40 pm
Algonquin j.Calhoun, hey juicedrinker the truth hurts don’t it. I ‘ll say it again the preverted progressive liberal democrats are the main problem with America. That means you moron. Obama is the worst president America has ever had. And he still has two more years to destroy freedom and prosperity.
Michael Honohan
August 1st, 2010
9:08 pm
I am now appalled. Not by anything Jack had to say, but that someone would try to compare it to the Tea Party. I find the comparision a mere coincidence. The Tea Party, despite its claims, are part and parcel of the extreme right-wing of the Republican Party. Is there one Tea Party Independent? How about any fiscal conservative Democrat Tea Party Candidate? Google thinks not.
I was in Florida when Jack started. I was with the Reform Party and with the Libertarians before and after. The Tea Party is no Reform movement.
Let me tell about Reform Party people. We had no love for the Republicans. Many of us were so called Reagan Democrats. True reform knows no political parties. When Reagan made a start toward shrinking the size of the federal government, he called upon Peter Grace a DEMOCRAT! While the Reagan revolution did not see fruition in his time, much of the Contract in America was a good start. One little known fact. According to Trent Lott, Bill Clinton – A DEMOCRAT! – was a pro-active partner in not only implementing the legislation, according to Lott, he actually co-authored much of it. Then we go Bush/Cheney who spend like drunken soldiers and unlike Democrats, gave us nothing in return. Zero. Only two Presidents in my lifetime balanced a budget – both DEMOCRATS!. However, during the Bush 1 years, we saw no move on reform. Republicans always lie. After Perot failed to be elected, the Republicans, with their co-horts int the power sharing cabal, changed election laws to be sure it will never happen again.
Please do not mistake me. I am no fan of Democrats. But the do what they say they will do. Republicans lie about everything to get into office. They only delivery tax cuts to the rich. Hey Bush, what happened to all those jobs those tax cuts where suppose to create? Oh yeah, Mexico, South Korea, China, Saudi Arabia, India, Pakistan… Not to mention the 52,000 wealthy Americans the Swiss bankers have told us are hiding their money for the American People.
Love your Constitution? Our Founding Fathers? Read Hamilton’s 30th Federalist before you pretend that the People did not want taxes to pay for, and I quote Hamilton, ” liberal or enlarged plans of public good.” Don’t forget Hamilton was no socialist, but one of the founders of Wall Street and the American Banking system.
This Tea Party is like a fat man who eats at a buffet every day and never complains about the manager overcharging him. Then one day the fat guy is a little short of money and finds out the the money he has been overcharged is going to feed some poor black family. Now the fat guy is upset and wants “take back his buffet.”
Mean, angry, mostly white, moderately affluent Americans who hate anyone who is not them and cannot stand to see the governent spend money on anything THEY personally do not like. It is their ilk that edits NAACP videos to spawn more hate. Are they racists? Who knows. I do know that John Lewis is not Al Sharpton or Jesse Jackson. Lewis is a very honorable man. If someone calls him a liar, I cannot believe it. If they are not racists, then they should publicly denounce the actions of one or two of their ranks instead of calling Lewis a liar. No, maybe they are racists since they chose to defraud us on the truth. $100,000 reward? Who had a camera trained one or two people who was NOT a tea party activist? Such utter fraud!
Anyhow, this is not the Reform Party and don’t buy the hype. They will put more “pro-life” candidates who will not stop abortion, they will elect more “fiscal conservatives” who will not balance the budget. Only an Independent or Libertarian would actually balance the budget. Maybe a rare Republican like Ron Paul. Ron Paul, now that is a REAL Tea Party guy. Funny how the “right” in the GOP only went 7% for him. Such fraud!
The US has the largest Air Force in the world. Who has the second largest? The US NAVY! We spend more than the next five countries COMBINED on “defense”. We not need another fighter jet. We need more air and battlefield drones. Yet Republicans are exactly what the last true Republican warned us about – they are supporters of the Military-Industrial Complex. And of course Eisenhower revived the American economy with the highest tax rate ever and largest public works project (read stimulus) every created – the Interstate Highway System – and the end we were the largest exanding economy in history. Of course the Tea Party would likely have prevented such a tax and spend Republican from ever getting that far.
To the Sarah Palin loving pro-goverment controlling our personal decisions crowd known as the Tea Party: I will put up my knowledge and love for the Constitution against any of you any time. Name the time and the place. And when you name Ross Perot, Bob Barr or Ron Paul as your national leader, I may take another look.
Michael Honohan
August 1st, 2010
9:12 pm
Oh, I just can’t quit today! Government schools? Many of the greatest minds in history received and American public education! The real Black Panthers -Oakland, CA, were quite civilized, organized, educated and compasionate. There “crime”? They chose to excercise THEIR
Michael Honohan
August 1st, 2010
9:13 pm
2ND Amendment rights to bear arms.
Michael Honohan
August 1st, 2010
9:19 pm
I would like to make every tea party member read and pass and exam on the Federalist Papers before they could open their mouth. I love free speech. I hate it when people abuse it by venturing opinions on which the know NOTHING about. Take Sen. Inhoe on global warming. Says the blizzards last winter proved global warming is a hoax. Funny. don’t blizzards have tons of snow? Is not snow water? Do not clouds form from evaporated water? Is not evaporation cause by warming of water? Where did Inhoe think all that came from? One degree of tempature increase equals millions of gallon of more evaporation. Hence, when the artic air mass descends an meet the warmed water vapor, you get blizzards. In other words, dumbasses, global warming means more violent winters. Duh.
Why do American revel in their ignorance?
Bu Bar
August 1st, 2010
9:35 pm
SONGBIRDIE — STICK YOUR HEAD UP YOUR ARSE AND HUMMMMMMMM , YOU TWIT.
Michael Honohan
August 1st, 2010
9:37 pm
Charles: The difference between liberals and progressives is the progressives believe we should pay as we go and not run up deficits or borrow to thing done. If you bothered to read, you would find the liberal democrats are not signficantly different the Hamiltons Federalist faction. But it was the same at the beginning. Jefferson railed against the Federalists and Hamilton in particular. Then a President, ruled as a Hamiltonian and rang up the national debt borrowing huge sums of money from the British at 6% interest to buy the Louisiana Purchace! Was Jefferson a hypocrite? Of course! Did he do the right thing. Also, yes!
The American conservartive is so unbelievably ignorant and obtuse
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Grand Forks: Grow up and stop being a baby. Political discourse is always rough. F**k the political correctness. Isn’t that for liberals pantywaists to begin with?
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Hillbilly Deluxe: Perot only seemed like a nut because the Republicrat Media establishement worked overtime to the cabal in place. The asked Perot what his plans were, rather than like a “normal” politician who thinks he has the answer to all our problem, Perot the “nuttiness” to point out the Washington had loads of plans that had gone through pilot programs and were proven to work and all we needed to do was put them work. They (meaning all of you) called him a fool. If Perot was president today, he would take that charter school in Harlem and put one in every urban center in America. But a Republiican would not lift a finger to help a poor negro. A rich one, oh yes! Well maybe not. They sure keep trying to get Michael Steele to sit his black ass in the back of the bus!
To all: Please do not bring Fox News into political discussion. Liberals do not bring up the Cartoon Network. What part of “entertainment” do you not understand? Then again, every since Bill Buckley died, the right-wing has not let a single intelligent conservative speak. Do any of you know who John E. Sununu was?
Lil' Barry Bailout
August 1st, 2010
10:10 pm
Michael Honohan: The difference between liberals and progressives is the progressives believe we should pay as we go and not run up deficits or borrow to thing done.
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Michael, I’m not sure how you differentiate between the liberals and progressives, but lately the DEMOCRATS have ignored “Paygo” any time they want to spend a big chunk of money.
I think the Tea Party came about because of the obscene increase in spending, deficits, and national debt that we’ve been racking up since the beginning of 2009. It’s out of control. If the objective is to blow up the economy and wreck the dollar, we’re making good progress in that direction. When the dollar is worthless, we’ll all be equal. Won’t that be great?
I don’t agree with a lot of what you have to say, but I appreciate your perspective, particularly bringing your knowledge of the Reform Party into the discussion.
ezra09
August 1st, 2010
10:17 pm
“Mean, angry, mostly white, moderately affluent Americans who hate anyone who is not them and cannot stand to see the governent spend money on anything THEY personally do not like”
You are a racist bigot!
ezra09
August 1st, 2010
10:23 pm
Michael Honohan
August 1st, 2010
9:37 pm
There is no difference between liberals and progressives. When the communist socialists are pointed out they change their names. Progressive liberals are the communist socialist with the same agenda but have changed their names to avoid political ruin. Personally I think a progressive liberal is trying to overthrow the government of the republic and should be tried for treason. There is no forgiveness for progressive liberals for they are the enemy within.
Grand Forks
August 1st, 2010
11:28 pm
“Grand Forks: Grow up and stop being a baby. Political discourse is always rough. F**k the political correctness. Isn’t that for liberals pantywaists to begin with?”
I’m not sure if you’ve been dropped on your head or you’re just flat out stupid. Probably both. As for your retarded comment, go sell stupid somewhere else, ma’am.
Grand Forks
August 1st, 2010
11:29 pm
“Please do not bring Fox News into political discussion.”
Make us.
Grand Forks
August 1st, 2010
11:31 pm
“The real Black Panthers -Oakland, CA, were quite civilized, organized, educated and compasionate. ”
Speaking of educated, you’re quite the bad speller. As for the black panthers, nah, they’re just a bunch of cop killing retards who blame their stupidity on white people.
Grand Forks
August 1st, 2010
11:32 pm
“Go change you your diaper you pansey boy. Liberal is in everything you say. You look it too.”
Interesting that several new retarded left wingers come out of the closet to post poorly structured sentences all while calling others names.
Liberalism=retardation
Grand forks exemplifies what Grand Forks vilifies
August 2nd, 2010
1:23 am
Petite Forks
“Wow, what an original comeback, retard.”
Wow, and what an original retort to a comeback Petite Forks
cuz
August 2nd, 2010
8:38 am
SO Kyle Wingfield dude………..it sounds like you LOVE the Brotha’zzz. You got some $3000 rims on yo $200 cadillac?
Overtaxed
August 2nd, 2010
9:21 am
Don’t forget: You’re just another liberal/democrat/progressive/facist moron. I love that you post a 10 year cost estimate for Medicare drugs that is five years old. The actual tally? $410B….$120B LESS than Bush said.
Not that I’m in favor of it; it still shouldn’t have happened. But look in the mirror of liberal history before you start throwing stones. We spend more on socialist entitlements due to Liberal Progressive Facist ideas BY FAR.
Grand Forks
August 2nd, 2010
9:42 am
HAHAHAHAHAH, democrats can’t stand Obozo.
Democrats Scatter Monday as Obama Comes to Town
ATLANTA — President Obama makes his first Atlanta appearance since his inauguration.
The President will fly into town Monday morning.
If you think this will be a time for Democrats running for office to rally around the chief executive- -you probably haven’t been following the campaigns this summer.
Former Governor Roy Barnes will not be available to meet Mr. Obama. The Democratic gubernatorial candidate will be somewhere in Georgia- – far from Atlanta.
http://www.11alive.com/news/local/story.aspx?storyid=148382&catid=40
Grand Forks
August 2nd, 2010
9:43 am
“Wow, and what an original retort to a comeback Petite Forks”
???????????????????
hotlanta
August 2nd, 2010
9:49 am
Will someome please answer my question as to why the media is not calling the white guy who released those classified a terrorist.
Michael Honohan
August 2nd, 2010
10:33 am
Grand Forks: Bad spelling? That is the best you can do?
ezra09: Yes, I am a racist! I hate all the members of the sub-human races. That includes people of such limiited intellectual ability that they can only throw around meaningless terms like communist and socialist. Meaningless because the USSR was never socialist. Socialism was used as propaganda for a totalitarian regime. Meaninless because if you had a brain and used it, you would have notice the economic indicator for the EU clearly show it was the so-called “free market” nations that brought down the economies of the social democracies in the EU. I laughed when I saw the charts because they appeared in the Wall Street Journal on the same pages as one of Rupert Mudock’s anti-socialism rants. Meaningless because the right-wing calls an American who want to collect taxes to spend on liberal and enlarge plans of government, whereas sensible, informed Americans call that person Alexander Hamilton who wrote the 30th Federalist on taxation.
hotlanta: a) who said the leaker was a white guy? b) a person who releases military secrets is a traitor, not a terrorist. Terrorist. Another meaningless term. In 1776, a person with no uniform hiding in the bushes shooting at marching troops representing the legal authority would have been branded a terrorist. We call that person a Minute Man, a patriot, a hero. Islamist suicide bombers do not deserve to be equated with such. I myself would have no compunction shooting any Wahabiist dead. I abhor all religious extremists. The difference between me and the rest of you cowards is I am not afraid to admit that our actions in the Middle East brought a share of this on our heads. Until we all man-up and face our ignorance and stupidity, we will be hated and wonder why.
Finally…I have to question my own sanity arguing with people so weak in their positions they have post anonymously. Seems like only Kyle and myself are the only ones here man enough to use their real names. The rest of you are no more than trolls. Your posts carry no more wait than a YouTube video. Frankly, I wouldn’t let you post that way. Our Founding Fathers, facing certain death if they failed, boldy signed their name to the Declaration of Indpendence. Worthless Americans today are cowards who likely would have ran at the first sight of a Red Coat. I talk candidly to a lot of our brave servicemen. Thankfully, they do not buy much of the rightwing BS. Part of their mission is to show America is not as stupid as the Fox News would have them think.
[Totatally irrelevant fact: Paul Revere did not shout "The British are coming!". They all still considered themselves British. He would have been shouting "The Regulars are coming!"]
Grand Forks
August 2nd, 2010
10:38 am
“Grand Forks: Bad spelling? That is the best you can do?”
No ma’am, I could hurl TONS of insults your way but I’d get banned.
Sucks to be you.
Michael Honohan
August 2nd, 2010
10:40 am
The worthless GOP, with no real answers to the problems they themselves created, work overtime day and night to be sure Obama is the scapegoat for everything (They actually started to blame Obama for the ecomonic woes a week before he was sworn in!) in the miind of the ignorant masses. Why would a sensible Democrat want to risk a Tea Party smear campaign? Frankly, I wish Sarah Palin was President now. A right-winger should be sitting in the scapegoat seat right now. But alas we may have a real American like John McCain if the far-right retards did not insist on one of thier own added to the ticket. Made me change my vote, plenty others too. Poor McCain. Poor America.
Grand Forks
August 2nd, 2010
10:40 am
“Seems like only Kyle and myself are the only ones here man enough to use their real names. ”
Honohan must be under the impression that I care.
“Yes, I am a racist! ”
Then don’t be surprised at the future insults coming your way, ma’am.
Grand Forks
August 2nd, 2010
10:42 am
“work overtime day and night to be sure Obama is the scapegoat for everything”
You’re either stupid or just stupid.
“if the far-right retards did not insist on one of thier own added to the ticket.”
Funny how you call other people retards and yet you can’t spell simple words like THEIR.
Michael Honohan
August 2nd, 2010
10:46 am
Grand Fork: Insults from anonymous trolls of obvious intellectual inferiority (if even better spellers) will not bother me. You seem to capable of little else than being a troll.
I spell just fine. I have far more important things to concern myself with. You obviously do not. Come on now, isn’t Rush or Glenn Beck on now? Leave the discourse to people who actually perform multi-sourced research to form an opinon.
Dan-O
August 2nd, 2010
10:54 am
Oh, my! Mr. Honohan speaks so passionately and makes a helluva lot of sense! I love it! Please, don’t stop!
Michael Honohan
August 2nd, 2010
10:55 am
Dude, you likely could not begin do what I do. (Try programming the Composite UI Application Block) It is wonderful that you havje the time to self-edit your worthless rants. Perfectly spelled meaningless tripe is still meaningless tripe. Or better expressed in your vernacular – a polished turd.
Here is your challenge for the day. Post something of substance supported by verifiable facts. No, wait take 2 days! Even 3 if you need to, but damn, pretend you have brain at least once in your life.
Dan-O
August 2nd, 2010
10:59 am
Why does the discourse have to include insults? Don’t they kinda get in the way of making it meaningful? Doesn’t that say something for those who hurl them?
Dan-O
August 2nd, 2010
11:01 am
Sorry, I’ll get better at this.
That last comment was for you, Grand Forks.
Michael Honohan
August 2nd, 2010
11:03 am
Dan-O: Not to dispute your contention here, but the greatest amount of vitriol in America politics was what (via proxies) hurled at Adams and Hamilton from Thomas Jefferson. Just goes with the territory. Now I am sure I could sit down with Thomas Friedman have a purely intellectual discussion. However, Glenn Beck or Rush would likely have me swearing like a sailor.
Grand Forks
August 2nd, 2010
11:10 am
“Insults from anonymous trolls of obvious intellectual inferiority (if even better spellers) will not bother me. You seem to capable of little else than being a troll. ”
You’re either in denial or just plain stupid. If my comments didn’t bother you, you’d have never responded. But please, continue with the mindless banter and asinine comments.
“I spell just fine.”
You’ve obviously never attended college.
Grand Forks
August 2nd, 2010
11:11 am
“Dude, you likely could not begin do what I do.”
Well duh, that’s why I went to a major university so that I would not have to clean toilets like you.
Grand Forks
August 2nd, 2010
11:12 am
“Why does the discourse have to include insults? Don’t they kinda get in the way of making it meaningful? Doesn’t that say something for those who hurl them?”
Interesting that you totally ignore Honohan’s mindless insults yet target me. Stupid much?
Grand Forks
August 2nd, 2010
11:12 am
“Oh, my! Mr. Honohan speaks so passionately and makes a helluva lot of sense! I love it! Please, don’t stop!”
Honohan has just found his lover.
Michael Honohan
August 2nd, 2010
11:13 am
[This is me not responding]
Grand Forks
August 2nd, 2010
11:13 am
“Leave the discourse to people who actually perform multi-sourced research to form an opinon.”
What research? Oh, and you misspelled another simple word.
Grand Forks
August 2nd, 2010
11:14 am
“[This is me not responding]”
None too bright, is ya Honohan.
Grand Forks
August 2nd, 2010
11:14 am
“Sorry, I’ll get better at this. ”
Sadly, no, you won’t.
Grand Forks
August 2nd, 2010
11:16 am
“I have far more important things to concern myself with. ”
Like what?
Dan-O
August 2nd, 2010
11:18 am
Grand Forks, at least you are slightly amusing. I chuckled a little at how incredibly inane your comments are.
Michael Honohan
August 2nd, 2010
11:19 am
Grand Forks:
No seriously. Post your real name. State what you do. I sincerely doubt you could even begin to do what I do. Less than 2% of the software development community can. I spent half my career cleaiing up the code messes created by people with advanced degrees from “major universities.” Oh, yes they all spelled very well, just could not get their programs to run.
I will wager anything you want to put up that we could exchange jobs for one day and I would accomplish more in yours than you could in mine. A public challenge. Put up or shut up.
Grand Forks
August 2nd, 2010
11:20 am
“at least you are slightly amusing. I chuckled a little at how incredibly inane your comments are.”
And I chuckled at your man crush on Honohan.
Grand Forks
August 2nd, 2010
11:22 am
“No seriously. Post your real name.”
Make. Me.
“State what you do.”
Engineer.
“I sincerely doubt you could even begin to do what I do.”
Pizza delivery can’t be that hard, Hon.
“I will wager anything you want to put up that we could exchange jobs for one day and I would accomplish more in yours than you could in mine.”
Cool, post your home address and phone number. I’ll respond.
“Put up or shut up.”
How about EFF off.
Grand Forks
August 2nd, 2010
11:24 am
Dan-O is Michael Honohan
Your IP address is showing. LOL
Michael Honohan
August 2nd, 2010
11:24 am
I thought not. Coward. When you man-up, I will respond.
Grand Forks
August 2nd, 2010
11:25 am
“I thought not. Coward. When you man-up, I will respond.”
You must be seriously retarded if you think anyone is going to post their real name on a blog.
Grand Forks
August 2nd, 2010
11:26 am
“I thought not. Coward.”
You also must be under the false impression that I care what you think of me.
Michael Honohan
August 2nd, 2010
11:37 am
Engineer? Most people would say chemical engineer. electronics engineer, civil engineer. When someone says just engineer, all I can picture is a guy in a striped hat and overralls running his toy train set. Engineer my ass. Who cares what you care about? You are a troll, a fraud, and nothing more.
And anyone with a few brain cells would have already used browser in front of them to find out the name and phone of Michael Honohan. My name has appeared in print in the opinion pages of the AJC 25 times and I have a listed phone and address. Unlike most, I am not an anonymous poster who care so little what people think of him that he spend all his time defending himself on line. It is my own moment of weakness that let a troll reel me me in.
Now, if you will all excuse me, I have some real (software) engineering tasks that require my attention.
“You must be seriously retarded if you think anyone is going to post their real name on a blog.”
Yeah, Kyle and I the retards here. Who told you that bit of stupidity? This is not YouTube.
Cowards…
Michael Honohan
August 2nd, 2010
11:38 am
Oh, please, please, attack my spelling again!
Grand Forks
August 2nd, 2010
11:40 am
“Most people would say chemical engineer. electronics engineer, civil engineer. ”
Industrial.
“Who cares what you care about?’
Obviously you do.
“You are a troll, a fraud, and nothing more. ”
Yep, that describes you pretty well, ma’am.
“My name has appeared in print in the opinion pages of the AJC 25 times and I have a listed phone and address.”
Your inbred mom must be proud.
“I am not an anonymous poster who care so little what people think of him that he spend all his time defending himself on line.”
Yet that’s exactly what you’re doing.
“I have some real (software) engineering tasks that require my attention. ”
Yeah, those pizzas aren’t going to deliver themselves.
“Yeah, Kyle and I the retards here.”
Look, I know you’re not a smart person but anyone with the IQ of a carrot would know the reason Kyle uses his name is because…….THIS IS HIS BLOG. LOL
Grand Forks
August 2nd, 2010
11:41 am
“Oh, please, please, attack my spelling again!”
Wasn’t attacking your spelling, just pointing out your stupidity.
Michael Honohan
August 2nd, 2010
12:04 pm
Grand Forks says he is an industrial engineer. How much do you all want to bet he designs deep sea drilling rigs for BP?
Michael Honohan
August 2nd, 2010
12:10 pm
I will tell you all truthfully the why a person needs to post anonymously. If one is a mediocre engineer (but a great speller, which as we all know is the primary indicator of true intelligence), then one would be a fool to post his name lest his boss sees that he is an Internet slacker and fire him. On the other hand, if you are extremely competent and invaluable to your employer, you can pretty much doing anything you want, including posting your name on a time stamped blog…
Kamchak
August 2nd, 2010
3:24 pm
Tick…tick…tick….
Grand Forks
August 2nd, 2010
5:14 pm
“How much do you all want to bet he designs deep sea drilling rigs for BP?”
If I did I’d be a billionaire by now. But no, I run my own biz.
Grand Forks
August 2nd, 2010
5:15 pm
“If one is a mediocre engineer (but a great speller, which as we all know is the primary indicator of true intelligence), then one would be a fool to post his name lest his boss sees that he is an Internet slacker and fire him.”
I am my own boss, ma’am.
Grand Forks
August 2nd, 2010
5:15 pm
“including posting your name on a time stamped blog…”
Ma’am, again, you must be under the false impression that I care what you think.
Grand Forks
August 2nd, 2010
5:16 pm
“Tick…tick…tick….”
yup
Kamchak
August 2nd, 2010
5:27 pm
Hiya Commie—What’s shakin’?
Grand Forks
August 3rd, 2010
4:00 pm
Racist black church.
Police: Officer Baited In Altercation That Injured Him
Public Safety Director: Staged Fight ‘Totally Inappropriate’
http://www.theindychannel.com/news/24453132/detail.html
Michael Honohan
August 3rd, 2010
5:54 pm
Why would a black person living in America not be racist? Hell I am white and don’t think much of most white people. Their ignorance of other’s customs and cultures is staggering. My black friends have more charactor than most any white people I know. Few white people are even aware of how racist they are. I don’t mean culturally insensitive – most black folks don’t care about that – I mean racist. My wife grew up in rural Georgia. The things that come out of her mouth are appalling and she has no real idea. My black friends say the understand thats how she grew up.
Michael Honohan
August 3rd, 2010
5:58 pm
Perfect example.Rush Limbaugh is absolutely clueless as to why black football players do not want to him to own a team. He honestly thinks it has something to do with him being conservative! You have to real ingorant to think black people are any more or less conservative than white people.
Michael Honohan
August 3rd, 2010
7:00 pm
Too often I get distracted by trolls from the topic at hand.
One thing I need to point out. Even though I have no love for them, I do support many of their candidates. I think many of my fellow true reformers are taking advantage of the climate to run as true fiscal conservatives.
One other thing I can say I like about the Tea Party is most factions have put the good of our nation ahead of the social conservative agenda. What good is electing pro-life, anti-gay bigots if they are not going to put America’s economy and finances in order.
These days, I hate Republicans with a passion. These people who we believed would balance our budget and restore our freedoms in fact ran up huge deficits and passed more anti-freedom laws than ever before. Liars and frauds. And they are ready to lie to us again to just get back in power. Democrats may have put forth unpoplular legislation but that was they ran and we legitimately elected by the American People to do. Do Republicans hate the American People? They sure have so much disdain for us they will not even fulfill campaign promsises. What mindless people keep voting liars. I will take an honest socialist before a lying conservative.
Grand Forks
August 3rd, 2010
8:22 pm
“Too often I get distracted by trolls from the topic at hand. ”
That’s because you’re a troll yourself, ma’am.
“I will take an honest socialist before a lying conservative.”
I bet you have a picture of Stalin above your bunk bed.
Grand Forks
August 3rd, 2010
8:23 pm
“Why would a black person living in America not be racist?”
Better question. Why do you contradict yourself with every mindless post?
Grand Forks
August 3rd, 2010
8:44 pm
“Rush Limbaugh is absolutely clueless as to why black football players do not want to him to own a team. ”
A lot of black football players wanted him to co-own a football team. People like Lynn Swann, Fred Hutchinson etc love Limbaugh. What you don’t understand is most athletes who have half a brain are money making capitalists who don’t want idiotic democrats to take their money.
Also, Rush is doing just fine.
“He honestly thinks it has something to do with him being conservative! ”
Nope, has to do with retarded race pimps like Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton.
Grand Forks
August 3rd, 2010
8:45 pm
“My black friends have more charactor than most any white people I know. ”
You know, you often preach about how people are stupid yet you can’t even spell simple words that most people learned to spell in second grade.
Also, no one cares that you hate being white. Your problem, not ours.
Grand Forks
August 4th, 2010
8:43 am
HAHAHAHAAH
Obama rejected.
Prop C passes overwhelmingly
Missouri voters on Tuesday overwhelmingly rejected a federal mandate to purchase health insurance, rebuking President Barack Obama’s administration and giving Republicans their first political victory in a national campaign to overturn the controversial health care law passed by Congress in March.
http://www.stltoday.com/news/local/govt-and-politics/article_c847dc7c-564c-5c70-8d90-dfd25ae6de56.html
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August 4th, 2010
8:37 pm
How’s it goin’ Grand? I thought Kyle was supposed to be back today.
Grand Forks
August 5th, 2010
8:28 am
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It’s boring over here. Wish some left wingers would stroll over here so I could make fun of them.
ATF
August 5th, 2010
12:01 pm
“I’M ENRAGED when I see money pouring in to incumbents from PACs, special interest groups who use their money to stifle public interest, to congressmen who will sell their soul for another term in office.”
Well, this is still around and is worse than ever. Especially with the Supremes giving corporations the status of individuals and giving companies the ability to contribute the PACs or otherwise make contributions in secret. Something the Thuglicans are slavering over. They love it.
We will not see campaign reform that really returns government to the people. We have government by the business interests, for the business interests, and to the business interests.
Just look at what all the Republicans in Georgia promise – less business taxes, less taxes on the wealthy (who also contribute mega-bucks to politicians), and more taxes to middle class. This state is going to the toilet as a good place to live. We have a “study commission” full of business people and far right “fair tax” proponents and can anyone doubt what they will come back with as recommendations for changes in Georgia tax law?
Jack Gargan
August 9th, 2010
1:59 am
After 20 years I am pleased to see that my message was right on target. Too bad the American people di not follow through in throwing ALL the rascals out (although in 1992 political analysts credit the THRO movement as THE catalyst which saw 124 new faces elected to Congress – BY FAR the highest number in over 50 years). Dont forget, the second part of the message was to put term limits on the successors of those we threw out. Some 24 states did put term limits onlocal and state legislators, but it did not extend to members of Congress. What a shame! Hopefully, the elections of 2010 will re-invigorate that cause. That is if the stupid, apathetic, uninformed voting (and too often non-voting!) public will get up off their asses and vote out all those Congresspeople who gave themselves another big raise while cutting back Social Security benefits (this includes YOUR congressman). This is your last chance, America! Vote out ALL incumbents, Democrat AND Republican, or condemn yourself and children and generations to come to indredible hard times!