Jobless benefits — and deficits — to be extended

The Senate is expected today to approve another extension to unemployment benefits, and it’s a true Washington compromise: Democrats and Republicans each get some of what they want, and taxpayers get the bill.

Benefits will now run through November, at an additional cost of $34 billion. Democrats wanted a larger bill with other goodies, totaling $120 billion; Republicans wanted only to extend the jobless benefits, and to pay for it with unspent stimulus money or by canceling other expenditures.

Instead, we get the $34 billion bill, but no canceled spending elsewhere.

Democrats will claim victory over GOP “obstructionism.” Republicans may try to promote the fact that they at least prevented Dems from spending almost $90 billion of borrowed money, which is nearly one-tenth of a $1 trillion deficit.

But the award for chutzpah goes to Rahm Emanuel, the White House chief of staff, who told the New York Times, “To govern is to choose, and this is a clear choice: You either support extending benefits for people who are out of work or you don’t.”

He got the first bit right. To govern is indeed to choose — and in this case that means choosing to extend jobless benefits by cutting elsewhere, or to spend here, there and everywhere and keep running up the deficit. That’s been the key point on this issue all along, and on spending the only choice Congress wants to make is “all of the above.”

That’s not governing.

236 comments Add your comment

booger

July 20th, 2010
10:50 am

Since passing pay/go legislation, has this congress ever adhered to it?

Kyle Wingfield

July 20th, 2010
10:54 am

“Adhere to it”? They thought they just had to pass it, take the credit and move on.

Grand Forks

July 20th, 2010
11:01 am

“That’s not governing.”

Well no kidding, Kyle. Obama has never held a real job in his life. How can you expect him to know how to govern?

As for the GOP, they need to fire Steele and replace him with Paul Ryan. November can’t get here soon enough.

Grand Forks

July 20th, 2010
11:02 am

Kyle, if you do nothing else today, please read this. Hands down the best article I’ve read in a very very long time. You could learn a thing or two from this.

President Haters

Two weeks ago, the White House informed the state of Oklahoma that it could expect no federal aid to help deal with the damage caused by recent flooding. There was no explanation, no expression of sympathy, no offer of alternatives.

Last week, it was revealed that NASA’s new mission will be centered on making Muslims “feel good” about their scientific achievements of roughly a millennium in the past. This comes right on the heels of the cancellation of the Constellation program, which employed tens of thousands and promised to put the U.S. back into space in a big way.

At roughly the same time, J. Christian Adams, a former Department of Justice attorney, revealed that the voter harassment case against the New Black Panthers had been dropped for purely racist reasons, and that the word had come down to “never bring another lawsuit against a black or other national minority, no matter what they do.”

While this doesn’t match killer baboons, it’ll do until Obama gets his pack trained.

http://www.americanthinker.com/2010/07/president_haters.html

CrazyInGA

July 20th, 2010
11:03 am

I hope the unemployed take the time to vote.

alex

July 20th, 2010
11:06 am

No unemployment? Thank the republicans! For the rest of you -When the economy stalls again – you can thank the republicans too. The republican’s weren’t worried about the deficit when that big insurance company and their friends the Wall Street execs were giving themselves bonuses with taxpayer money!!! Next election – let Congress feel the sting of the unemployment lines!!! No more raping and pillaging the middle class!!! – How many years have you paid taxes? 30? 40? Your government bails out bankers and Wall Street execs using your tax dollars – but unemployment is allowed to expire? What happened to “by the people” or “for the people”? Or are the big campaign contributors the only “people” who count to congress? They are playing games AGAIN FOR THE THIRD TIME while you are wondering how to feed your kids? Figure it out! Malfeasance – Failure of a public official to perform their duties!!! Next Election MAKE YOURSELF MATTER BY VOTING!!! 10% unemployment carries 10% of the vote! Use it!! Fire them all next election or recall every Congress member NOW for Malfeasance – Failure of a public official to perform their duties!!! Next Election – Lets get people elected who actually represent all the People- this current congress represents only special interest groups!

miles

July 20th, 2010
11:16 am

the republicans never cared about the deficit when they controlled congress for 8 yrs…do they really believe we believe they care now?…they have no solutions to anything except to continue the failed policies of BUSH…they send billions of dollars overdeas on wars but dont want to help out fellow AMERICANS

miles

July 20th, 2010
11:19 am

@GRAND FORKS

THE BUSH justice dept decided not to prosecute the BLACK PANTHERS…but since youre a conservative, i know u hate facts..

Grand Forks

July 20th, 2010
11:22 am

“they have no solutions to anything except to continue the failed policies of BUSH…they send billions of dollars overdeas on wars but dont want to help out fellow AMERICANS”

What failed policies?

As for the wars, are you retarded?

Grand Forks

July 20th, 2010
11:23 am

“THE BUSH justice dept decided not to prosecute the BLACK PANTHERS…but since youre a conservative, i know u hate facts..”

The reason the Bush dept didn’t investigate was because…………………they only had 1 month to do so before Obama took over.

As far as hating facts, no I love facts. Your words not mine, ma’am.

Richard

July 20th, 2010
11:24 am

Instead of extending benefits, we should let 10% of the country go homeless and see how much businesses like it when they turn to crime.

Grand Forks

July 20th, 2010
11:24 am

“they send billions of dollars overdeas on wars”

Not sure what “overdeas” is.

“dont want to help out fellow AMERICANS”

miles, WHERE ARE THE JOBS OBAMA PROMISED IN 2008?

WHERE ARE THEY?

WHERE ARE THEY?

WHERE ARE THEY?

David,jr

July 20th, 2010
11:25 am

I’ve been unemployed for over a year and to wait for congress to approve an extention makes me think, our elected officals have NEVER and I repeat NEVER gone without a job or a source of income. I wonder how would they act if the shoe was on the other foot. Jobs are still hard to come by for everyone. To our elected officals GET A CLUE THE ECONOMY HASN’T RECOVERED YET!!!!!

miles

July 20th, 2010
11:27 am

yeah the failed policies of not keeping AMERICA safe[9/11]….they took a surplus and turned it into a deficit…we’ve wasted billions of dollars in IRAN,AFGHANISTAN…now u say they didnt investigate cause they didnt have time?…so if they were investigating a murder i guess they would drop it cause they didnt have time..right..smh …

miles

July 20th, 2010
11:28 am

@GRAND FORKS

yeah they send billions to ISRAEL..WHY NOT KEEP OUR MONEY IN THIS COUNTRY?…

miles

July 20th, 2010
11:31 am

TODAY CONSERVATIVES ARE GOING TO be mad about unemployed folks getting money to pay bills…while these repubs spent like a drunken sailor when they were in congress on useless wars..

Kyle Wingfield

July 20th, 2010
11:32 am

Miles: The Bush DOJ filed a civil lawsuit against the party, which the Obama DOJ dropped. There is a good timeline of the events here: http://bit.ly/d2IrQh

So, you are technically correct in using the word “prosecute,” since that implies a criminal action. But let’s not pretend that the Bush DOJ decided the New Black Panthers had done nothing wrong.

Richard

July 20th, 2010
11:32 am

Kyle, more seriously theres some gray area here. Let’s say the cost is $40 billion. That’s approximately $150 per person in the country.

Now let’s say you neighbor loses his unemployment benefits and has to foreclose. How much does your home value drop? When I refinanced, I found out my home dropped $30,000 in value due to forclosures. $150 sounds like a good deal to me.

Grand Forks

July 20th, 2010
11:33 am

“yeah the failed policies of not keeping AMERICA safe[9/11]”

Oh, so the muslims who killed 3000 people are not to blame? You’re one sick person, miles.

“we’ve wasted billions of dollars in IRAN,AFGHANISTAN”

WE’RE STILL THERE, DOPE!

“now u say they didnt investigate cause they didnt have time?”

WOW! You CAN read!

“so if they were investigating a murder i guess they would drop it cause they didnt have time..right..smh …”

You’re really not smart, miles.

Grand Forks

July 20th, 2010
11:34 am

“yeah they send billions to ISRAEL..WHY NOT KEEP OUR MONEY IN THIS COUNTRY?…”

We send billions to Africa, Pakistan, Europe etc., miles.

AGAIN, WHERE ARE THE JOBS OBAMA PROMISED?

WHERE ARE THEY?

Grand Forks

July 20th, 2010
11:34 am

“TODAY CONSERVATIVES ARE GOING TO be mad about unemployed folks getting money to pay bills…while these repubs spent like a drunken sailor when they were in congress on useless wars..”

miles is not a smart person.

miles

July 20th, 2010
11:35 am

to kyle

i see nothing wrong with prosecuting these 2 ignorant fools….

Kyle Wingfield

July 20th, 2010
11:35 am

Richard: Don’t confuse the issue. The issue was not about whether to pass the benefits — some people have argued against passing them, but that wasn’t the holdup in Congress. The holdup in Congress was over how to pay for them: borrow the money, or cut other spending elsewhere — including, in the GOP’s specific proposal, using unspent stimulus money.

Grand Forks

July 20th, 2010
11:36 am

Richard

So you’re saying it’s better to bankrupt the country than to let capitalism produce jobs. Is that right, rick?

miles

July 20th, 2010
11:37 am

at GRAND FORKS

SORRY if i rather my tax money be spent helping Americans THAN helping other countries..maybe youre not the smart person..

miles

July 20th, 2010
11:38 am

at grand forks

this wont bankrupt the country…so stop lying

Grand Forks

July 20th, 2010
11:39 am

“SORRY if i rather my tax money be spent helping Americans THAN helping other countries..maybe youre not the smart person..”

miles, you make absolutely no sense. Government can’t keep printing money and expect everything to be ok.

Thanks for being a good democrat kool aid drinker.

Grand Forks

July 20th, 2010
11:39 am

“this wont bankrupt the country…so stop lying”

Like I said, you’re not a smart person.

miles

July 20th, 2010
11:40 am

at grand forks

so if we can send billions to these other countries…why not keep our money here in AMERICA…SURELY u dont have a problem with that ,do you

Grand Forks

July 20th, 2010
11:41 am

“so if we can send billions to these other countries”

Ask that question to Obama. He’s the one funding the wars and sending money to other countries.

“SURELY u dont have a problem with that ,do you”

If I were you, I’d worry more about my grammar.

Grand Forks

July 20th, 2010
11:42 am

miles

Why won’t you answer my simple question?

WHERE ARE THE JOBS OBAMA PROMISED?

miles

July 20th, 2010
11:42 am

at grand forks

so by revealing youre lie, that makes me dumb?…like i said, this won’t bankrupt the country, and u cant prove it, can you

miles

July 20th, 2010
11:42 am

grandforks

ask OBAMA, hes the president, jeez

Grand Forks

July 20th, 2010
11:43 am

“so by revealing youre lie, that makes me dumb?”

1: What lie?
2: As for you being dumb, no, you do that on your own.

“like i said, this won’t bankrupt the country, and u cant prove it, can you”

Again, you’re not a smart person.

Grand Forks

July 20th, 2010
11:44 am

“ask OBAMA, hes the president, jeez”

Thanks for proving my point, miles.

miles

July 20th, 2010
11:44 am

grand forks

thanks for watching out for my grammar…but u still lied when u said this would bankrupt the country

Richard

July 20th, 2010
11:44 am

Grand Forks,

First, $40 billion dollars is not bankrupting the country. It wouldn’t even bankrupt Bill Gates.

Second, capitalism hasn’t been producing too many jobs lately. In fact, it’s been losing jobs at an alrming rate. And spare me the argument that it’s because of taxes. Taxes are taken AFTER employee salaries, and small businesses don’t pay them anyways. Besides, it’s not like taxes are a new thing.

Grand Forks

July 20th, 2010
11:46 am

“thanks for watching out for my grammar…but u still lied when u said this would bankrupt the country”

Please prove that I lied, miles.

miles

July 20th, 2010
11:46 am

grand forks

youre only point is you’re angry that a black family is enjoying the WHITE HOUSE..

miles

July 20th, 2010
11:46 am

please prove that this will bankrupt the country…

Grand Forks

July 20th, 2010
11:47 am

“First, $40 billion dollars is not bankrupting the country. It wouldn’t even bankrupt Bill Gates. ”

No, it just gets us deeper in debt with China.

“Second, capitalism hasn’t been producing too many jobs lately.”

Yeah, you can think democrat policies for that one.

“And spare me the argument that it’s because of taxes.”

Your words not mine.

“Besides, it’s not like taxes are a new thing.”

Again, your words not mine.

Grand Forks

July 20th, 2010
11:50 am

“youre only point is you’re angry that a black family is enjoying the WHITE HOUSE..”

miles, you are one stupid stupid stupid person.

Grand Forks

July 20th, 2010
11:51 am

miles

Since you played the race card, please don’t expect me to debate with you. You have the IQ of a carrot.

miles

July 20th, 2010
11:51 am

oh grand forks

i do declare,…lol…

Grand Forks

July 20th, 2010
11:53 am

miles

July 20th, 2010
11:53 am

grand forks

we were never debating…u hate president no matter what…i bet you listen to RUSH LIMBAUGH..a big breasted convicte junkie…no wonder your views are warped

Nads

July 20th, 2010
11:53 am

Speaking of employment, do either of you two (Grand Forks and miles) have jobs? Could you maybe get to work on them right now?

Grand Forks

July 20th, 2010
11:55 am

“Speaking of employment, do either of you two (Grand Forks and miles) have jobs?”

Yep, do you Nads?

Grand Forks

July 20th, 2010
11:57 am

“we were never debating…u hate president no matter what…i bet you listen to RUSH LIMBAUGH..a big breasted convicte junkie…no wonder your views are warped”

miles has the IQ of a carrot.

CJ

July 20th, 2010
11:57 am

I’m sorry, but nobody who supports extending the deficit-financed Bush tax cuts, which have already cost trillions, can be taken seriously on deficit reduction. In addition, conservatives (so-called), including Kyle, have offered zero details on how they would balance the budget—only platitudes. (Actually, if conservative politicians told voters about their real agenda, they’d lose any chance of taking back Congress—hence the silence).

This faux concern about deficits—from the people who turned surpluses into deficits and more than doubled the national debt—only manifested because a Democrat took control of the White House. In addition, the few nonsensical cuts proposed by conservatives are limited to programs primarily affecting anybody other than big business and the wealthy. You won’t see conservatives seeking to balance the budget with cuts to the bloated military industrial complex, oil subsidies, agricultural subsidies, nuclear subsidies or various other forms of welfare for millionaires. In addition, conservatives would watch our country go bankrupt before allowing Bush tax cuts on unearned income (e.g., inheritance tax on multimillion dollar estates, capital gains, and dividend taxes) or people earning over $250,000 to expire.

With all his trash talking of Dems, who are deliberately running deficits to plug the hole in private sector spending caused by policies that Kyle supports, Kyle has yet post any proposal whatsoever, showing his work, on how we could balance the budget and pay down the debt…and like all trash talking conservatives, he never will.