Why Kagan should be filibustered
Senators should filibuster Supreme Court nominee Elena Kagan. Here’s why.
It’s not because of her mostly empty answers to the mostly easy questions posed by members of the Senate Judiciary Committee during this week’s hearings. It’s not even because she hinted at an extremely expansive view of Congress’s ability to put mandates on our everyday lives when Sen. Tom Coburn (R., Okla.) asked her whether it would be constitutional for legislators to require Americans to eat three vegetables and three fruits a day, and she demurred.
No, the reason Senators should filibuster Kagan is Sonia Sotomayor.
The Senate confirmed Sotomayor last year as President Obama’s first appointment to the Supreme Court. Like Kagan, and like pretty much every nominee to the high court since Robert Bork was demonized by Ted Kennedy and blocked by Senate Democrats, Sotomayor cruised to confirmation by refusing to tip her hand as to how she would rule on certain issues.
But already we can see that the confirmation process as it’s been conducted the past quarter-century has yielded more than evasiveness. As Jonah Goldberg writes at Townhall.com, in the McDonald vs. Chicago gun-rights case that the Supreme Court ruled on this week,
[Sotomayor] concurred with Justice Stephen Breyer’s dissent, which held that there is no fundamental right to bear arms in the U.S. Constitution. “I can find nothing in the Second Amendment’s text, history or underlying rationale that could warrant characterizing it as ‘fundamental’ insofar as it seeks to protect the keeping and bearing of arms for private self-defense purposes,” Breyer wrote for the minority.
But when Sotomayor was before the Senate Judiciary Committee one year ago for her own confirmation hearings, she gave a very different impression of how she saw the issue. Senate Judiciary Chairman Patrick Leahy asked her, “Is it safe to say that you accept the Supreme Court’s decision as establishing that the Second Amendment right is an individual right?”
“Yes, sir,” she replied.
Both Sotomayor and Leahy festooned their colloquies with plenty of lawyerly escape hatches. That’s why Leahy asked the questions the way he did, and that’s why Sotomayor answered them the way she did. It’s also why he spun her answers into more than they were: “I do not see how any fair observer could regard (Sotomayor’s) testimony as hostile to the Second Amendment personal right to bear arms, a right she has embraced and recognizes.” He made it sound as though she was open to an expansive reading of the Second Amendment when everyone knew she wasn’t. (As a judge, she was hardly a hero of the NRA.)
Whether you are a liberal or a conservative or something in between, I’d hope you could agree with me that a confirmation process in which nominees say so little of substance, and yet manage to be misleading nonetheless, is a sham. Enough is enough.
If the Senate is going to insist on a process that’s more than a formality, the process ought to mean something. Either that, or we should go back to the pre-Bork era.
(And, lest someone accuses me of partisanship: I haven’t researched the record of every confirmation hearing since Bork and compared the nominees’ comments to their record on the bench. But I will stipulate that Sotomayor is probably not the first justice to issue a ruling at odds with her statements as a nominee, and that this probably isn’t a problem confined to one end of the ideological spectrum.)
So, why should Kagan now pay for the sins of Sotomayor and others?
Because she probably won’t be the last person nominated to the court by Barack Obama, and if the Senate is going to send a message about the way nominees are expected to perform at confirmation hearings, it has to be sent to a president who will be in a position to do something about it.
I suppose the message could get through to a future president, and I don’t really care whether that president might be a Republican or a Democrat. But I think it would be communicated most clearly right now, and Obama’s the president right now.
This is a chance to end the charade. Either senators do it now, or they stop grumbling about the farce that they insist on carrying out.
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Tommy Maddox
June 30th, 2010
12:16 pm
Yep.
Brian Morse
June 30th, 2010
12:22 pm
“This is a chance the charade”? Ever heard of proofreading…?
You know it's true
June 30th, 2010
12:27 pm
I bet you have no issue with activist judges like John Roberts and Samuel Alito. The founders didn’t even address campaign finance in the Constitution, but they acted they were defending liberty and the founders intentions.
I bet you had no problem with the incoherent Bush v. Gore decision that handed an election to W. I guess it’s only judicial activism or legislating from the bench if you disagree with the ruling.
WOW
June 30th, 2010
12:28 pm
“It’s not because of her mostly empty answers’
SHE??????? This whole time I was thinking Kagan was a man!!!!!!!!!!
WOW
June 30th, 2010
12:29 pm
“bet you have no issue with activist judges like John Roberts and Samuel Alito.’
They both had held positions as judges.
But hey, if Kagan is filibustered he can always enter the Guinness Book of World Records as World’s ugliest woman.
No More Progressives!
June 30th, 2010
12:31 pm
You know it’s true
June 30th, 2010
12:27 pm
I bet you have no issue with activist judges like John Roberts and Samuel Alito.
You forgot Clarence Thomas.
And the 9th Circuit Court of Appeals.
HDB
June 30th, 2010
12:33 pm
What’s really disturbing about the confirmation hearings is the path the questioning has taken from Jeff Sessions and Southern Republicans denigrating Thurgood Marshall! It’s further proof of the animosity that Southern Republicans have towards Americans, minorities, and the process in totalia.
Wes
June 30th, 2010
12:44 pm
Kyle,
There is no need for a filibuster on this. The senators merely need to ask the questions until they are satisfied with the answers. If she refuses to answer the confirmation process isn’t over.
Personally I doubt that there is any desire on the part of the senators to do this.
WOW
June 30th, 2010
12:44 pm
“You forgot Clarence Thomas. ”
Why do you hate black people?
No More Progressives!
June 30th, 2010
12:45 pm
“In her own hand: Kagan’s manipulation on partial-birth abortion……”
http://hotair.com/archives/2010/06/30/in-her-own-hand-kagans-manipulation-on-partial-birth-abortion/
WOW
June 30th, 2010
12:45 pm
“Southern Republicans have towards Americans, minorities, and the process in totalia.”
HDB, Delta is ready when you are.
WOW
June 30th, 2010
12:47 pm
“There is no need for a filibuster on this.”
Sure there is. If they filibuster, Obama will have to go back and pick another judge and it will take months to get back to the hearings. By then, the Democrats will be in the minority again and Obama will be a lame duck.
It’s called strategery.
Mary
June 30th, 2010
12:49 pm
Definitely a Republican speaking !!!
No More Progressives!
June 30th, 2010
12:49 pm
HDB
June 30th, 2010
12:33 pm
It’s further proof of the animosity that Southern Republicans have towards Americans, minorities………..
You’re Jesse Jackson in cognito, aren’t you? Or Al Sharpton…….right? All you ever do is whine about race. What, if by chance, Thurgood Marshall was wrong once or twice? Will your world end?
WOW
June 30th, 2010
12:50 pm
“What’s really disturbing about the confirmation hearings is the path the questioning has taken from Jeff Sessions and Southern Republicans denigrating Thurgood Marshall”
Oh, so it’s perfectly fine for Robert Byrd to hang black people, but when a white guy from the south, who is a non KKK member, asks some questions to the he/she it’s somehow “disturbing?”
No HDB, what’s disturbing is the fact that you give people like Robert Byrd a free pass.
WOW
June 30th, 2010
12:50 pm
No More Progressives!
You gotta understand, without race hustling, HDB would have nothing to cry about.
Ragnar Danneskjöld
June 30th, 2010
12:52 pm
The definition of “activist judge” for a conservative is “a judge who makes up law where there is none.” The definition of “activist judge” for a leftist is “a judge who will overrule prior leftist expansionary readings of the constitution and apply the plain language of the constitution.”
For example, leftists think the founding fathers, via the second amendment to the Constitution, wanted to make sure that government could prevent people from keeping a handgun in the home, or perhaps that individuals should never be allowed personal defense by any weapon other than a flintlock rifle. Conservatives, on that issue, think the founding fathers intended that individuals should be allowed to keep weapons to defend themselves against an abusive central government, much like the one then-recently revolted against,
Leftists think that the formation of the US government would never have occurred if founding fathers thought a state would prohibit the sale of oral contraceptives.
Leftists think the republic would never have formed if the death penalty had been permitted use by the states.
Leftists think the speech protected by the first amendment is “pole dancing” and “pornography”, but could not possibly include buying a commercial to oppose legislative actions by the Congress.
Leftist bar military recruiters from the campuses of premier law schools.
Lil' Barry Bailout
June 30th, 2010
12:52 pm
Kagan should be filibustered because she’s just told us that she sees nothing in the Constitution that limits the power of the federal government to involve itself in things it has no business in. One suspects, however, that her support of totalitarian government would be limited to those times when a Democrat is in office.
HDB
June 30th, 2010
12:55 pm
WOW June 30th, 2010
12:50 pm
Having noted Jeff Session’s animosity for being turned DOWN for a federal judgeship…and he’s turned that animosity into resentment towards anyone that a Democrat brings up towards confirmation. He’s also denigrating a man whose paradigm was “equal protection under the LAW”!
Are you for giving Ronald Reagan a free pass when he spoke in favor of segregation? Are you for giving John McCain a free pass for his anti-minority voting record? I didn’t give Robert Byrd a free pass…but at least the man repented for his mistakes….and his voting record subsequently was pro-civil rights. I can forgive someone who has asked for the same…….
No More Progressives!
June 30th, 2010
12:56 pm
Crud. Shoulda said “incognito.”
My bad. But HDB will never pick it up.
WOW
June 30th, 2010
12:58 pm
Lil’ Barry Bailout
Kagan should be filibustered simply because she had people thinking that she was a man.
HDB
June 30th, 2010
12:59 pm
Ragnar Danneskjöld June 30th, 2010
12:52 pm
Question: if conservatives say an activist judge “makes up law wher there is none”…..would you say that the overturning of Plessy vs. Ferguson and Brown vs. Board of Education was an activist action….or a conservative action so that ALL Americans receive constitutional protection??
Jason
June 30th, 2010
1:00 pm
Kyle Rightwingfield,
You’re go to great length to claim as part of your argument that you are not partisan? The rest of your argument is about not only evasiveness, but being misleading?
What a total laugher! You have zero credibility or honesty here. You are not only demuring your partisanship, you are lying and it could not be more obvious.
Even if you weren’t a wolf in sheep’s clothing, the action against a Supreme Court nominee you suggest, trying to block her from the seat just to “send a message” about how hearings are conducted is totally misplaced. There are proper ways of dealing with that and it starts with the Congress acting in a forthright manner, not with a tactic that subverts the action of it’s own body.
Finally, punishing one person for another person’s crimes is the sole province of God, sir.
WOW
June 30th, 2010
1:02 pm
“He’s also denigrating a man whose paradigm was “equal protection under the LAW”!”
SEEEEEEE, HDB thinks Kagan is a man to!
“Are you for giving Ronald Reagan a free pass when he spoke in favor of segregation?”
Did Reagan hang black people? No.
I’m not familiar with any “segregation” speeches from Reagan. Please post the speech.
“Are you for giving John McCain a free pass for his anti-minority voting record?”
Illegal aliens aren’t legal voters dim wit.
“and his voting record subsequently was pro-civil rights.”
He voted against the Civil Rights Bill. Geez HDB, did you learn US History by reading the Communist Manifesto?
“I can forgive someone who has asked for the same…….”
Ever occur to you that he wanted votes?
WOW
June 30th, 2010
1:02 pm
“You’re go to great length ”
Grammar fail.
WOW
June 30th, 2010
1:03 pm
“You are not only demuring your partisanship, you are lying and it could not be more obvious.”
More grammar failure.
F. Sinkwich
June 30th, 2010
1:03 pm
It’s interesting but not surprising that progressives like Sotomayer and Kagan do their best to hide their real beliefs when answering questions at these confirmation hearings. It’s like they’re ashamed of their liberal ideology. Why?
Hey, Kagan, you’re a progressive, man up to it! You hate the military, want guns to be illegal, want conservative speech curtailed, and much prefer equality of outcomes over equality of opportunity.
We all know your agenda, why don’t you own up to it?
Oh, yeah. Because you won’t get confirmed if you tell the truth about yourself.
HDB
June 30th, 2010
1:03 pm
No More Progressives!
June 30th, 2010
12:49 pm
HDB
June 30th, 2010
12:33 pm
It’s further proof of the animosity that Southern Republicans have towards Americans, minorities………..
All you ever do is whine about race. What, if by chance, Thurgood Marshall was wrong once or twice? Will your world end?
What, if by chance, that Thurgood Marshall was RIGHT…..Brown vs. Board of Education……??
Will my world end? Yes…when death falls upon me…..
I don’t whine about race…..but I see more of the inequities than you do….and when that’s brought forth, you tend to minimize it……..
WOW
June 30th, 2010
1:04 pm
“Finally, punishing one person for another person’s crimes is the sole province of God, sir.”
????????????
WOW
June 30th, 2010
1:05 pm
“I don’t whine about race”
Honesty isn’t your strong suit, HDB.
WOW
June 30th, 2010
1:09 pm
Anyone else find it interesting that HDB only sees Republicans as racist?
Robert Byrd hung black people but was a Democrat. HDB is ok with that.
No More Progressives!
June 30th, 2010
1:10 pm
HDB
June 30th, 2010
1:03 pm
but I see more of the inequities than you do….and when that’s brought forth, you tend to minimize it……..
Name two (2) inequities I don’t recognize.
Lourdes
June 30th, 2010
1:10 pm
Let them all in, it will be anarchy, whoop dee-doo. Whomever is nominated by either party, let them in and move on to more important issues like their daily martini lunches….
neo-Carlinist
June 30th, 2010
1:11 pm
just got back from Bob’s blog – filibuster her behind because she wants to take the peanuts from my cold dead hand. replacing a liberal justice with a different liberal justice is a push at best. as I see it, maybe we need to take the 2nd amendment out of the courts, and put it in the street – “when they kick at your front door, how you gonna come? with your hands on your head, or on the trigger of your gun?” Guns of Brixton, The Clash. there is not a justice or politicia who will touch the second amendment because that would be the Bunker Hill, Fort Sumpter, and Pearl Harbor all roled into one. we’ll keep playing this nickel and dime game, and Palin and the NRA will wring their hands, and Sarah Brady and the left will gnash their teeth, but the dootie will really hit the fan if a “right” guaranteed by the BILL OF RIGHTS becomes a wrong. not gonna happen folks. not gonna happen.
WOW
June 30th, 2010
1:13 pm
Proof that Democrats don’t want to clean up the oil spill. Democrats are evil.
Oil spill visits get partisan
Rep. Steve Scalise (R-La.) wanted to fly 10 lawmakers down to the Gulf of Mexico to see the damage caused by BP’s gigantic oil spill first hand.
House Democrats said no.
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0610/39225.html
WOW
June 30th, 2010
1:15 pm
Obama makes Jimmy Carter look good.
Obama Mocked Commissions, Then Established Four
Mr. Obama established the commission in February, saying debt and deficits can “hobble our economy” and “saddle every child in America with an intolerable burden.”
Yet the president’s decision to establish a commission to address a problem he described as potentially catastrophic seems odd in light of his earlier criticism of commissions in general. As Ari Shapiro noted on National Public Radio today, the president mocked the notion of commissions to address problems back when he was a candidate.
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503544_162-20009286-503544.html
CrazyInGA
June 30th, 2010
1:21 pm
Kagan will be confirmed because the CRAZY Republicans will be called out for all the hypocrisy they possess. And Jeff Sessions is an idiot.
Jason
June 30th, 2010
1:25 pm
WOW, another troll on the dole.
WOW
June 30th, 2010
1:27 pm
Jason, another high school drop out who’s playing on his inbred mom’s puter.
Sandra
June 30th, 2010
1:28 pm
Kyle,
Your total partianship is showing. Stop pretending you’re playing fair. Alito and Roberts could both be considered to have been lying through their teeth based on what they said at their confirmation hearings about ’settled law’ versus what they have actually done.
I always try to understand both sides of any situation but reading some of your stuff is difficult to wade through. Can you just give us facts versus your opinion on everything? I am perfectly capable of making up my own mind.
CJ
June 30th, 2010
1:34 pm
Kyle, yet again, demonstrates that he is an unabashed, right-wing hack.
He clearly seeks to box nominees of a Democratic president into a lose/lose situation whereby they either won’t be confirmed for explicitly stating their views or they won’t be confirmed for not explicitly stating their views. Kyle, of course, has had enough when he believes that he has evidence that a previous Democratic nominee mislead the judicial committee (he doesn’t).
Did Kyle insist that Roberts, Alito, or the scores of other Bush nominees to federal courts explicitly state their positions on privacy rights (e.g., Roe v. Wade) or whether corporations have rights under the Constitution? Of course not. While Kyle’s faux evidence that Sotomayor mislead the Judicial Committee amounts to a statement made by Senator Leahy and dissension written by Justice Breyer, he ignores multiple decisions by Chief Justice John Roberts, for example, that contradict his statements to the committee regarding the principle of stare decisis. Roberts claimed at the time, “I do think that it is a jolt to the legal system when you overrule a precedent. Precedent plays an important role in promoting stability and even-handedness. It is not enough — and the court has emphasized this on several occasions — it is not enough that you may think the prior decision was wrongly decided…” Roberts, it appears, lied.
Nevertheless, scores of Republican and Democratic judicial nominees seeking confirmation by the Senate whether the nomination was federal districts courts, courts of appeals, or the supreme court, have learned the lesson of Robert Bork and deliberately avoided offering statements that can be regarded as controversial by the other party. (That said, it’s worth noting that although minority Senate Dems filibustered ten of Bush’s judicial nominees to lower level federal courts, majority Republicans prevented 55 Clinton nominees from getting votes by refusing to give them a hearing in the judicial committee plus refusing to schedule votes on the floor of the Senate for ten additional Clinton nominees who made it out of committee).
Incidentally, where was Kyle when Republicans were complaining during the Bush administration that preventing an up or down vote on judicial nominees for lower federal courts was unconstitutional and threatened the nuclear option (i.e., voting to change the rules so that the minority party couldn’t filibuster)? I look forward to reading the article where Kyle criticized the GOP for taking this stance.
Kyle wrote, “So, why should Kagan now pay for the sins of Sotomayor and others? Because she probably won’t be the last person nominated to the court by Barack Obama,…” Enough is enough…now that a Democrat is in the White House.
HDB
June 30th, 2010
1:35 pm
No More Progressives!
June 30th, 2010
1:10 pm
HDB
June 30th, 2010
1:03 pm
but I see more of the inequities than you do….and when that’s brought forth, you tend to minimize it……..
Name two (2) inequities I don’t recognize.
OK: 1- Sentencing guidelines: Same crime…black people aree sentenced LONGER
2. Employment – Black unemployment rate DOUBLE the rate of the preponderance of Americans
3. Republican Representation of Black people – NO Black Republicans since JC Watts; only 105 delegates to the past GOP Convention……
That’s just the beginning……
Since people are bringing up Robert Byrd…..at least the man asked for forgiveness and repented for his past……
….from wikipedia…..
He also opposed the Voting Rights Act of 1965 but voted for the Civil Rights Act of 1968.
In the National Association for the Advancement of Colored People’s (NAACP)[66] Congressional Report Card for the 108th Congress (spanning the 2003–2004 congressional session), Byrd was awarded with an approval rating of 100 percent for favoring the NAACP’s position in all 33 bills presented to the United States Senate regarding issues of their concern. Only 16 other senators received that approval rating in the session. In June 2005, Byrd proposed an additional $10 million in federal funding for the Martin Luther King, Jr. National Memorial in Washington, D.C., remarking that “With the passage of time, we have come to learn that his Dream was the American Dream, and few ever expressed it more eloquently.”[67]
People keep saying that I feel only Republicans are racists….but there HAVE been Republicans that I could’ve voted for….Lowell Weicker from Connecticut and Howard Baker of Tennessee…so that statement is false!!
People also wish to revise Reagan’s history:
…from Time:
1) As a young congressman, Lott was among those who urged Reagan to deliver his first major campaign speech in Philadelphia, Mississippi, where three civil rights workers were murdered in one of the 1960s’ ugliest cases of racist violence. It was a ringing declaration of his support for “states’ rights” — a code word for resistance to black advances clearly understood by white Southern voters.
2) Reagan was against the MLK Holiday…spearheaded by John McCain and Jesse Helms…but when faced by an overriding of his Presidential veto (Congress passed it with an overwhelming veto-proof majority (338 to 90 in the House of Representatives and 78 to 22 in the Senate)….he signed the bill
3) Reagan fought to revoke the Internal Revenue Service’s authority to deny charitable tax exemptions to the school (Bob Jones University). The denial was over the school’s ban on interracial dating. The Supreme Court, in an 8-1 decision, rebuked Reagan, saying schools that practice racial segregation can indeed be denied tax exemptions. Reagan would later appoint the lone dissenter, William Rehnquist, to chief justice.
Counterpoint???
jconservative
June 30th, 2010
1:38 pm
Wingfield I fear you are treading on the shredding of the Constitution.
Article 2, Section 2 says “…and he shall nominate, and by and with the Advice and Consent of the Senate,…Judges of the supreme Court,…”.
The Constitution is clear that the Senate shall “Advise and Consent” on each nominee. Sotomayor is over and done with and history. Roberts & Alito (both stating that Roe v Wade is settled law) are over & done with and history. Kagan is before the committee. If any Senator votes for or against her nomination, for any reason besides her qualifications, he is in violation of his duty to the Constitution. If Roberts votes to overturn Roe are you going to demand his impeachment for lying to Congress? No you are not.
The sham is the conduct of the Senate in trying to force a nominee to agree to a certain outcome on a case all know is coming. The sham is the Senate using the occassion of advise & conscent to appeal to their political base.
As we are all fond of saying, elections have consequences.
And you are correct that Justices do have a habit of saying one thing in the confirmation hearings and another after they are on the court. Roberts left one with the impression that he was a “states rights” supporter. But now the Roberts court is easily going to catch the Warren court in decreasing states rights and increasing the authority of the central government. As Alito said in the McDonald opinion “…JUSTICE BREYER is correct that incorporation of the Second Amendment right will to some extent limit the legislative freedom of the States,…”
And, please, this case, McDonald, is less about the 2nd Amendment and more about whether the 14th Amendment incorporated the 2nd Amendment against the States. All the concurring and dissenting opinions address this issue as this was the central issue of the case.
Heller and McDonald, two 5 – 4 decisions. We 2nd Amendments fans are still treading on thin ice.
WOW
June 30th, 2010
1:38 pm
“People also wish to revise Reagan’s history:”
Yeah, people like you. Please provide an accurate piece on Reagan’s “supposed racism” so we can read it.
Jose
June 30th, 2010
1:41 pm
HDP, if it wasn’t for republicans civil rights would not have been passed. Al, “the poodle” Gore’s own dad voted against the bill. The difference is dems saw a way to use social programs to keep minorities dependent and the dem party and now thanks to this thinking, are the largest slave owners in the free world today. And as far as Reagan goes, Obama couldn’t be a pimple on Regan’s butt. However, he matches up just fine with peanut head Carter.
WOW
June 30th, 2010
1:41 pm
“….from wikipedia…..”
HDB, try reading a history book instead of a website where anyone can re-write the content.
WOW
June 30th, 2010
1:42 pm
HDB
The KKK was founded by the Democrat Party.
Kyle Wingfield
June 30th, 2010
1:45 pm
Brian Morse: Thanks, I missed that one. It’s fixed now.
Sandra: This is an *opinion* column. That’s why I give my opinions here.
CJ: So, because I wasn’t writing a column back when Bush was nominating judges, I don’t get to voice an opinion now? I don’t know how much clearer I could have been that this is a longstanding problem that transcends party.
Williebkind
June 30th, 2010
1:45 pm
Thurgood Marshall!
You mean the justice who invented legislating from the bench.
WOW
June 30th, 2010
1:45 pm
“Counterpoint???”
HDB, anyone who has read your posts from over the past few months can easily come to the conclusion that you’re a big fat hypocrite. They can also come to the conclusion that you see everything as a race issue.
Sucks to be you.
Jose
June 30th, 2010
1:45 pm
And Byrd was a proud member before becoming a democrat from West Virginia. Proud times.
Kyle Wingfield
June 30th, 2010
1:49 pm
jconservative: “Advise and consent” has meant many things over the years. What I’m suggesting is that the senators act as if the questions they ask deserve real answers. You’re right that the previous confirmations are over. But the problem persists.
BW
June 30th, 2010
1:50 pm
Kyle…I agree with you but something is telling me you wouldn’t have conceived the article when it was time to appoint Roberts and Alito under the last administration.
WOW
June 30th, 2010
1:53 pm
“appoint Roberts and Alito under the last administration.”
That’s because they both believe in the US Constitution. Kagan hates it.
Kyle Wingfield
June 30th, 2010
1:54 pm
BW: I could tell you that I would have felt the same back then, but something is telling me that the people who accuse me of partisanship wouldn’t believe it. So, I guess you’ll just have to file this away until there’s another Republican president.
Williebkind
June 30th, 2010
1:56 pm
I agree! Filibuster her. We do not need her social agenda on the bench.
paul s s
June 30th, 2010
1:56 pm
re: Bork was despised by many owing to his role in the Watergate scandal, specifically his firing of the independent prosecuter at Nixon’s orders, and his failure in all the years since to own up to what a terrible decision it was on his part (for those forget the AG and asst. AG at the time famously RESIGNED rather than carry out Nixon’s foul order) Does that justify the ‘borking’ he recieved at the hands of Kennedy et al? No, however the Dems were the majority and it was and is the right of the majority to vote down the POTUS’s choice, as was the case with Bork – the fact that every nominee since, including Alito & Roberts, who gave some of the most fractured responses I’ve every heard uttered during their Senate hearings, have followed the pattern – the bottom line is, nominees for the SC ARE POLITICAL, and the spate of 5-4 decisions which have been handed down for the last two years under Roberts is clear cut proof.
BW
June 30th, 2010
1:56 pm
WOW…that is your ideology…and that’s all it is. To a person on the left, the Roberts Court is engaged in judicial activism….it all depends on one’s world view.
HDB
June 30th, 2010
1:56 pm
WOW— and the GOP and NAACP were co-founded by both black and white people. You fail to remember how the Dixiecrats in 1964 left the Democratic Party because of their (Dixiecrat) racial animus and came to the GOP. Note Barry Goldwater and Ronald Reagan. Also note the LACK of representation of black people in the GOP since 1964. Also note Colin Powell’s getting BOOED off the stage at the 2004 GOP Convention…….
I DO read history books…..and also lived the experiences…..
as per Reagan….
“I believe in states’ rights…. ”
Given the history of Philadelphia, and Reagan’s use of the words “states’ rights,” often interpreted as a desire to return to pre-Civil Rights laws regarding segregation,many of Reagan’s critics felt that he was at least insensitive to the concerns of blacks, or that he even was using this location and these words as a cynical appeal to the white racist vote. Columnist Bob Herbert of The New York Times wrote, “Everybody watching the 1980 campaign knew what Reagan was signaling at the fair,” and that it “was understood that when politicians started chirping about “states’ rights” to white people in places like Neshoba County they were saying that when it comes down to you and the blacks, we’re with you”. Paul Krugman, also of the Times, noted that a Republican national committee member from Mississippi had urged Reagan to speak at the county fair, as it would help win over “George Wallace inclined voters”, and wrote that this was just one of many examples of “Reagan’s tacit race-baiting in the historical record.”
Eulogizing on Reagan’s death Washington Post columnist William Raspberry noted of the incident:
It was bitter symbolism for black Americans (though surely not just for black Americans). Countless observers have noted that Reagan took the Republican Party from virtual irrelevance to the ascendancy it now enjoys. The essence of that transformation, we shouldn’t forget, is the party’s successful wooing of the race-exploiting Southern Democrats formerly known as Dixiecrats. And Reagan’s Philadelphia appearance was an important bouquet in that courtship.
Jose June 30th, 2010
1:41 pm
I am not an advocate of dependency…but many here fail to realize the transition that the GOP has undergone…..prior to 1964, the majority of black people VOTED Republican…..but since then, they’ve voted Democratic! The social programs that I used to progress – equal access to education (Brown vs. Board fo Education), the right to vote (Voting Rights Act of 1964), and equal access to employment (Affirmative Action) – ARE necessary and vital to be fully considered as an American CITIZEN!!
WOW
June 30th, 2010
1:56 pm
“We do not need her social agenda on the bench.”
Yeah, that and we need more women on the bench. Kagan is just another left wing man.
BW
June 30th, 2010
1:57 pm
Kyle…yes we will see either in 2 years or 6 years what will happen.
WOW
June 30th, 2010
1:58 pm
“To a person on the left, the Roberts Court is engaged in judicial activism….it all depends on one’s world view.”
To a person on the left, communism is great and capitalism is bad. To a left winger, the founding fathers were dope smoking slave owners who loved abortions. To a left winger, the US Constitution is evil but the Communist Manifesto is great.
Yep, left wingers are easy to figure out.
BW
June 30th, 2010
1:59 pm
@ WOW…considering the last president tried to present us with Harriet Miers…let’s not pretend that both sides don’t want to stack the court with ideologues.
CJ
June 30th, 2010
1:59 pm
I stand corrected, Kyle. You undoubtedly privately supported Dems filibustering any and all Bush judicial nominees who were not forthcoming with their views on the commerce clause, the right of privacy, corporate personhood, stare decisis, and the establishment clause (among others).
Or do I know you better than you know yourself?
BW
June 30th, 2010
2:00 pm
@ WOW…well they were slave owners
Mr. Holmes
June 30th, 2010
2:01 pm
I applaud this position and strongly agree with filibustering a nominee to prompt change in the system–when the next Republication president makes a nomination. There, now I’m being bipartisan too.
Also, I would strongly encourage the GOP to continue attacking Kagan by trashing Thurgood Marshall. Please please please keep doing this. In fact, a little more viciousness would be appreciated, thank you.
WOW
June 30th, 2010
2:01 pm
“Note Barry Goldwater and Ronald Reagan.”
So Reagan and Goldwater were southerners? More re-writing history from HDB!
“Also note the LACK of representation of black people in the GOP since 1964.”
Yeah, that’s because you and other Jessie Jackson types call black conservatives, Aunt Jamimas and Uncle Toms.
“Eulogizing on Reagan’s death Washington Post columnist William Raspberry noted of the incident:”
HAHAHAHAHAH!!!!!!!!!! WASHINGTON POST!!!!!!!!!!!!
HDB, if you want to be taken seriously, post ACCURATE history. Not some left wing rag!
WOW
June 30th, 2010
2:02 pm
“considering the last president tried to present us with Harriet Miers”
Yep, and conservatives went after Bush on that! You;ll also notice that conservatives sat home on election day 2006.
Williebkind
June 30th, 2010
2:03 pm
I will never forgive the progressive liberals, Ted Kennedy and the democratic party with the way they treated Bork. Filibuster if you have the numbers when a liberal is appointed!
WOW
June 30th, 2010
2:03 pm
“nd the GOP and NAACP were co-founded by both black and white people.”
And that has what to do with anything?
HDB
June 30th, 2010
2:04 pm
Williebkind
June 30th, 2010
1:45 pm
Thurgood Marshall!
You mean the justice who invented legislating from the bench.
The justice that believed in “equal protection under the law!”
WOW
June 30th, 2010
1:45 pm
HDB, anyone who has read your posts from over the past few months can easily come to the conclusion that you’re a big fat hypocrite. They can also come to the conclusion that you see everything as a race issue.
Sucks to be you
1) Nope…doesn’t suck…I love who I am and what I am…….
2) Everything in this country DOES have a basis in race…but people don’t want to admit it….
If it were not so….why was there legislation that granted black people only 3/5 person-hood (Plessy vs. Ferguson)….why was “separate but equal” the mantra of the nation until Brown vs. Board of Education….why was Jim Crow enforced until the Civil Rights Act of 1964….why was the poll tax legal unil the Voting Rights Act of 1964…..why was the MLK Holiday not observed in Arizona until the NFL threatened to move the Super Bowl….???
Mr. Holmes
June 30th, 2010
2:04 pm
Republication=Republican. D@mn cough syrup.
BW
June 30th, 2010
2:04 pm
@ WOW…they aren’t Uncle Toms but they are foolish to think that prejudice will simply disappear because they believe conservative ideology…that’s my problem with them not that they are sellouts…speaking for myself only
Williebkind
June 30th, 2010
2:05 pm
WOW
June 30th, 2010
2:02 pm
I agree! Bush did have an impact on conservative voting. Hey but I MISS HIM NOW!!!
WOW
June 30th, 2010
2:05 pm
Williebkind
Cynthia Tucker wrote a piece a few years ago about Bork being a racist. She didn’t produce one shred of evidence in her column.
She and other black liberals are nothing but hypocritical clowns.
WOW
June 30th, 2010
2:06 pm
“1) Nope…doesn’t suck…I love who I am and what I am…….”
You love being a racist?
BADA BING
June 30th, 2010
2:07 pm
Did you notice how Kagan looks like ‘Debbie Downer’ from a Sat nite live skit a few years back? Support AZ, boycott NYC, L.A.,and San Fran.
WOW
June 30th, 2010
2:07 pm
“they aren’t Uncle Toms but they are foolish to think that prejudice will simply disappear because they believe conservative ideology”
No one said prejudices would ever disappear. Left wingers make damn sure that will never happen.
WOW
June 30th, 2010
2:08 pm
BADA BING
I can’t wait to see Heratio Sanz do an impression of him/her. Sanz looks JUST like him/her.
tscali
June 30th, 2010
2:10 pm
neither a politician nor liberal justice are above lying to get what they seek–just look at our “moderate” president. he lied to the left, he lied to the middle–conservatives know a shiny wax job when they see one. we voted no, but we’re stuck with the mistake of the gullible.
WOW
June 30th, 2010
2:12 pm
Ok, I just heard Kagan say the absolute DUMBEST thing since Bill Clinton’s “depends on what IS is.”
Question: Did you write that piece at Harvard?
Kagan: Well…uh…with respect….uh….what memo….oh uh….well, I’ve seen the document..uh well, the document is in my handwriting…
LEFT WINGERS ARE RETARDED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
BW
June 30th, 2010
2:12 pm
@ tscali…you aren’t a “conservative” are you? LOL
HDB
June 30th, 2010
2:12 pm
WOW June 30th, 2010
2:01 pm
So Reagan and Goldwater were southerners? No…but TRENT LOTT is…and he asked Reagan to speak at the Neshoba County Fair……and Goldwater was the father of modern conservatism…..which was racially motivated…..
Also note the LACK of representation of black people in the GOP since 1964.”
“Yeah, that’s because you and other Jessie Jackson types call black conservatives, Aunt Jamimas and Uncle Toms.”
Wrong….the infiltration of the Dixiecrats in 1964 changed the paradigm of the GOP; prior to 1964, the GOP was getting the majority of the black vote. If you REALLY want to understand the problems that black conservatives have with the preponderance of black people….read this:
http://www.blackcommentator.com/154/154_thindwa_black_conservatives.html
…and Washington Post IS considered a newspaper of RECORD……so their reporting is deemed accurate….
Jefferson
June 30th, 2010
2:13 pm
She’s in. Game. Set.
Jose
June 30th, 2010
2:14 pm
HDP is right about “everything has a race base to it in this country”. Example: NAACP, United Negro College Fund, BET, Miss Black America, Black History Month. The list goes on but, HDP is correct.
BADA BING
June 30th, 2010
2:15 pm
Daddy, did you kick some ass yet?
Hillbilly Deluxe
June 30th, 2010
2:15 pm
How many people know that the lone dissenter in Plessey vs. Ferguson was, the only Southerner on the Court, Justice John Marshall Harlan of Kentucky?
http://www.bgsu.edu/departments/acs/1890s/plessy/dissent.html
WOW
June 30th, 2010
2:15 pm
“No…but TRENT LOTT is”
And Lott never hung black people. Robert Byrd did.
“Wrong….the infiltration of the Dixiecrats in 1964″
Wrong….the infiltration of the Dixiecrats in 1964 blah blah blah blah……broken record blah blah blah blah blah.blah blah blah blah.blah blah blah blah.blah blah blah blah.blah blah blah blah.blah blah blah blah.blah blah blah blah.blah blah blah blah.blah blah blah blah.blah blah blah blah.blah blah blah blah.blah blah blah blah.blah blah blah blah.blah blah blah blah.blah blah blah blah.blah blah blah blah.blah blah blah blah.blah blah blah blah.blah blah blah blah.
“…and Washington Post IS considered a newspaper of RECORD……so their reporting is deemed accurate….”
Yeah, known racists like Eugene Robinson have to retract statements on a weekly basis. Yep, WaPost is a real newspaper!
Again, please post an ACCURATE historical document. Not some left wing newspaper with falling sales numbers.
NJF
June 30th, 2010
2:16 pm
Funny…Did you call for a filibuster during any of the better part of the “past quarter-century” when Republican presidents were making these nominations? It’s interesting that your concern about the “evasiveness” of court nominees has just recently caused you to become so outspoken…
WOW
June 30th, 2010
2:16 pm
Jose
GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOAL!
BADA BING
June 30th, 2010
2:17 pm
They asked Kagan what she was doing on Christmas Day, and she said she was at a Chinese restaurant, just like all the other Jews. Is this true? Any Jewish people do this?
WOW
June 30th, 2010
2:18 pm
“It’s interesting that your concern about the “evasiveness” of court nominees has just recently caused you to become so outspoken…”
It’s not the evasiveness. It’s the total lack of knowledge and experience that concerns people.
HDB
June 30th, 2010
2:18 pm
WOW
June 30th, 2010
2:06 pm
“1) Nope…doesn’t suck…I love who I am and what I am…….”
You love being a racist?
FAR from being a racist……..I ‘m comfortable being with ANY culture……
…and BW is on point….people do believe that racism and prejudice will disappear just because of conservative ideology…..but in many cases, conservative ideology ENTRENCHES racism and prejudice…..that is the key here!!
Any one but a Conservative
June 30th, 2010
2:18 pm
It’s quite a relief to see that so many conservative Republicans in the South still have such simple ideas to complex problems. This thought process is what is getting incumbents voted out. Incumbents are loosing their seats and will continue to do so partly because of the same old deny, obstruct and get nothing accomplished while we tax payers foot the bill for whole dog and pony show. Go ahead and obstruct this process with a filibuster this close to reelections and all the names that stand up and partake will be the names and faces that will be remembered in November. The tea party people are the result of a GOP that talks the talk but when faced with the walk can only talk. So for every tea party hardcore there are a 100 independent or centrists from both sides that are fed up! I don’t mean talk I mean the kind of fed up that gets the guy who has blown off voting for years or maybe didn’t think much about politics in general to vote and brings everyone he can get with him. What Obama did to get out the black vote in 2008 will pale in comparison to what is going happen this November with all of us who occupy the sane and more informed center positions of our points of view. The days of lunatic fringe leadership are numbered and for abstinent, obstructive politicians who do little but get reelected and talk the talk without any real input much less walking the walk, the bell tolls for thee.
WOW
June 30th, 2010
2:18 pm
BADA BING
No, she was thinking about “A Christmas Story.”
WOW
June 30th, 2010
2:19 pm
“FAR from being a racist……..I ‘m comfortable being with ANY culture……”
Yeah, as long as they aren’t white.
Mr. Holmes
June 30th, 2010
2:19 pm
“he lied to the left, he lied to the middle”
Actually, Obama pledged to govern as a moderate, and that’s exactly what he’s doing. He’s annoyed people on the left–no health care public option, foot dragging on DADT, continuance of Bush terror & surveillance policies. And he’s annoyed people on the right–insisting on providing health care to the uninsured, the economic stimulus, daring to regulate what financial institutions can do and pledging action on climate change.
He’s tacking pretty close to the middle. If he were not governing in the middle of a great recession that would drag anyone’s numbers down, and if BP hadn’t turned the Gulf into the LaBrea Tar Pit, his approval rating would be 55-60 percent.
WOW
June 30th, 2010
2:20 pm
“.but in many cases, conservative ideology ENTRENCHES racism and prejudice”
Proof please. And no HDB, I don’t want your opinion, I want FACTS.
Jose
June 30th, 2010
2:20 pm
NJF, he said he is giving his opinion and yes, he is conservative. By the way, how many republican presidents nominations did get filibustered? I seem to remember a few being called evrything in the liberal book and dragged through the mud for days on end. Kagan could not even answer a simple question of can Congress tell us what to eat and it be a law. Give me a break.
WOW
June 30th, 2010
2:21 pm
“It’s quite a relief to see that so many conservative Republicans in the South still have such simple ideas to complex problems.”
Yeah, the south needs to listen to states like Michigan and Illinois. Two states which are bankrupt. Or maybe we could listen to NY and Mass. Oh, they’re going bankrupt as well.
So, who should we be listening to?
I mean, Obama is getting his @ss kicked around by Germany and China about his lack of experience when it comes to anything and everything…
Any one but a Conservative
June 30th, 2010
2:22 pm
obstinate not abstinent
WOW
June 30th, 2010
2:22 pm
“his approval rating would be 55-60 percent.”
if..if..if…if……..
Jose
June 30th, 2010
2:23 pm
Anyone but a conservative, you are on crack or meth. This administration is so on the lunatic fringe it is not funny. Your side has toal control and you still blame the right. That is the problem with you libtards today. You refuse to grow up and take responsibility for your issues. 2010 and 2012 you will loose your TOTAL responsibility and get the hell out of Dodge.
WOW
June 30th, 2010
2:24 pm
“What Obama did to get out the black vote in 2008″
He didn’t do anything. Blacks always vote black.
luangtom
June 30th, 2010
2:25 pm
Seems everything in the AJC gets around to the race-card. Seems the AJC still wants us to “pay for the sins of our fathers” in everything that they see fit to put forth as news. Who gives a rip? This is now and not the 1960’s or earlier. I owe no one a thing, nor do you or any other reader of this rag. Get to the point of the matter, B. Hussein Obama is set on a course that will not be for the benefit of the country. Hell, he was on TV in one of his sound-bites yesterday and told the world that the US economy was improving and the ploy to spill more phony money into the programs he promotes will only help it. His bail-out money is not creating jobs, it is not saving jobs. As he spoke, the DOW tanked close to 300-points. So, dear readers, seeing his judgment and opinion on matters of importance seem to be off-target, just how is this appointment to the SCOTUS beneficial to the US?
Yes, filibuster and get answers or throw her out. An inexperienced President is bad enough, now an inexperienced and non-judge sitting on the bench of the highest court in the land is getting a bit far-fetched. Filibuster…………..
Mr. Holmes
June 30th, 2010
2:26 pm
“…now an inexperienced and non-judge sitting on the bench of the highest court in the land is getting a bit far-fetched.”
Sort of like…. oh I don’t know… William Rehnquist?
WOW
June 30th, 2010
2:26 pm
“Seems everything in the AJC gets around to the race-card.”
That’s because racists like Tucker and HDB are here to remind us that the GOP is and will always be racist…..
HDB
June 30th, 2010
2:26 pm
Jose
June 30th, 2010
2:14 pm
HDP is right about “everything has a race base to it in this country”. Example: NAACP, United Negro College Fund, BET, Miss Black America, Black History Month. The list goes on but, HDP is correct.
NAACP: Co-founded by black and white people to address the racial inequities in the nation – a conservative approach
UNCF: Founded to address funding for academic progress – a conservative and free-market solution
BET: Created to address the lack of black entertainment on television – another conservative and free-market approach. Bought by VIACOM so that a large communications conglomerate has access to a growing market
Miss Black America: Founded to address the fact that black women had not been chosen as representatives to the Miss America Pageant….another conservative/free-market approach
Black History Month: Created by Carter G. Woodson to address the fact of black accomplishment and black involvement in this nation’s history
HCBU’s: Created to educate the growing black population because they were historically denied admission to schools of higher learning….another conservative/free-market approach…..
Black Church: Founded to allow black people places to worship since they were denied access to white churches….another conservative approach……
Much of what you rail against are black AND conservative answers to racial inequity in this nation…..
WOW
June 30th, 2010
2:27 pm
“Sort of like…. oh I don’t know… William Rehnquist?”
Or, “oh..uh..yeah, that is my handwriting on that document that I wrote….” – E Kagan he/she
Mr. Holmes
June 30th, 2010
2:29 pm
WOW: Stay on point, son. We’re talking about judicial experience. I know you can do it. Lay off the Adderall for a few minutes and focus.
WOW
June 30th, 2010
2:29 pm
HDB
I’m not sure if you went to college or not, don’t really care, but dude, seriously, if you can’t see your own prejudices towards white people then there really is no hope for you.
Everything you write is about race. Geez man, get a clue.
HDB
June 30th, 2010
2:30 pm
WOW
June 30th, 2010
2:24 pm
“What Obama did to get out the black vote in 2008″
He didn’t do anything. Blacks always vote black.
OK….so prior to 2008…all white people voted for a white man to be President; is THAT considered to be racist??
WOW
June 30th, 2010
2:26 pm
“Seems everything in the AJC gets around to the race-card.”
That’s because racists like Tucker and HDB are here to remind us that the GOP is and will always be racist…..
1) I’m not racist….
2) It’s made evident by people like Jeff Sessions…..
3) It’s not racist to point it out…but it IS racist to DENY that it doesn’t exist……
4) Don’t hate the players….hate the GAME……and that’s just the historical game that Americans are constantly playing……
WOW
June 30th, 2010
2:31 pm
“tay on point, son. We’re talking about judicial experience.”
Yeah, and Kagan doesn’t have any…..
How is that not on topic?
“Lay off the Adderall for a few minutes and focus.”
Left wingers always talk about drugs. Hmmmmmmmmmm
BW
June 30th, 2010
2:31 pm
“He didn’t do anything. Blacks always vote black.”
@ WOW…apparently they also vote the Democratic ticket…and the next time you wonder why some may throw the label of racist at you, please consider how this statement would sound if spoken aloud.
WOW
June 30th, 2010
2:31 pm
“OK….so prior to 2008…all white people voted for a white man to be President; is THAT considered to be racist??”
According to Tucker, Clinton was the first black president. So………..
WOW
June 30th, 2010
2:32 pm
“and the next time you wonder why some may throw the label of racist at you, please consider how this statement would sound if spoken aloud.”
I was quoting Maynard Jackson and Al Sharpton.
Thanks for playing!
WOW
June 30th, 2010
2:33 pm
“1) I’m not racist….”
Yet you always point fingers and rail on white people……………yep, no racism there.
Jefferson
June 30th, 2010
2:33 pm
BTW, Johah Goldburg is sho’ nuff full of crap.
HDB
June 30th, 2010
2:33 pm
WOW
June 30th, 2010
2:29 pm
HDB
I’m not sure if you went to college or not, don’t really care, but dude, seriously, if you can’t see your own prejudices towards white people then there really is no hope for you.
Everything you write is about race. Geez man, get a clue.
1) College educated w/ advanced degrees………….
2) Not prejudiced….but a student AND liver of history….I’m calling it as I’ve lived it!!
3) Too many people are trying to MARGINALIZE others’ experiences….I try to learn from their experiences and expand my own….
4) Those who forget history are DOOMED to repeat it…and history IS repeating itself…….
WOW
June 30th, 2010
2:34 pm
“Johah Goldburg is sho’ nuff full of crap.”
Why are you Anti-Semitic?
WOW
June 30th, 2010
2:34 pm
“Those who forget history are DOOMED to repeat it…and history IS repeating itself…….”
Yep, and right now we’re reliving the Jimmy Carter years.
Jose
June 30th, 2010
2:35 pm
HDP, you spin everything and I mean everything into “white consrvatives hate black people”. You are the reverend wright of the ajc blogs. Simply put, you do not hold the intillegence to carry on a debate without calling some craker a racist. The good news is you make a lot of people feel real good about themselves.
WOW
June 30th, 2010
2:35 pm
“I’m calling it as I’ve lived it!!”
That explains why you can’t provide solid historical documents about Reagan etc… You’re posting your own opinion and calling it history.
WOW
June 30th, 2010
2:36 pm
“1) College educated w/ advanced degrees………….”
Like they say, D’s get degrees……….
HDB
June 30th, 2010
2:36 pm
WOW
June 30th, 2010
2:33 pm
“1) I’m not racist….”
Yet you always point fingers and rail on white people……………yep, no racism there.
Is is racist to point out what has occurred in history…..or since hit dogs holler, have you been hit??
Jose
June 30th, 2010
2:36 pm
HDP is right again, history is repeating itself. We are back to the Carter years only this idiot is worse. Good call HDP.
NJF
June 30th, 2010
2:37 pm
Jose:
It’s fine that he’s giving his opinion. People who willingly share their opinions should also be willing to be challenged on them (as you have just illustrated with your response to my post).
I’m not sure how many Republican presidents’ court nominations have been filibustered. I’m willing to venture a guess that it’s probably about the same number/proportion of Democrat presidents’ nominations.
Do you really want to go into the whole name calling thing? That kind of goes both ways don’t you think?
BW
June 30th, 2010
2:37 pm
@ WOW…do you believe that “conservatives” can get elected in sufficient numbers to control both Houses of Congress and the Presidency? If elected, do you believe that they will not be corrupted by the corporate lobbyist machine that has corrupted everyone else in Congress?
NJF
June 30th, 2010
2:39 pm
WOW:
I didn’t realize that GAs financial standing was all that great? I don’t think Mississippi, Alabama, Florida, S.C. are setting the world on fire either…
BADA BING
June 30th, 2010
2:41 pm
WOW, don’t mess with HDB, he speaks 7 languages, but doesn’t understand anything in all 7 of them.
WOW
June 30th, 2010
2:41 pm
“Is is racist to point out what has occurred in history…..or since hit dogs holler, have you been hit??”
You do it on a daily basis. When someone talks about the same topic day in and day out………..
tscali
June 30th, 2010
2:42 pm
@ bw & mr. holmes, i’m a conservative whose focus is on the fiscal only. social issues are of no great import to me. obama’s fiscal policies are a disaster. both he and bush lost my approval with tarp and the bailouts. too big to fail, my ass. the freedom to fail inspires us to succeed.
HDB
June 30th, 2010
2:42 pm
Jose
June 30th, 2010
2:35 pm
HDP, you spin everything and I mean everything into “white consrvatives hate black people”. You are the reverend wright of the ajc blogs. Simply put, you do not hold the intillegence to carry on a debate without calling some craker a racist. The good news is you make a lot of people feel real good about themselves.
One — I’ve not used the word “cracker”….that’s YOUR word. You’ve shown yourself…..
Two – you have not experienced what I have…therefore, you can’t envision my experiences…..
WOW
June 30th, 2010
2:35 pm
“I’m calling it as I’ve lived it!!”
That explains why you can’t provide solid historical documents about Reagan etc… You’re posting your own opinion and calling it history.
I HAVE….from noted sources that you wish to refute…..and your personal experiences ARE your history…just as mine are….and they hold true for you just as it does me………..
BTW…no school I’ve even attended allow persons with a D average to graduate……and to graduate from gradschool..a MINIMUM of a 3.0 must be attained…..
Try again!!
WOW
June 30th, 2010
2:43 pm
“do you believe that “conservatives” can get elected in sufficient numbers to control both Houses of Congress and the Presidency?”
Yep, if they run conservative campaigns, vote conservatively and stay on topic.
“If elected, do you believe that they will not be corrupted by the corporate lobbyist machine that has corrupted everyone else in Congress?”
Do you work for a company? If so, you’re corrupt.
WOW
June 30th, 2010
2:44 pm
“I don’t think Mississippi, Alabama, Florida, S.C. are setting the world on fire either…”
No, but none of those states are on the verge of bankruptcy.
Mr. Holmes
June 30th, 2010
2:44 pm
All this debate has revealed a pertinent question:
Are WOW, BADA BING and Jose all the same guy living in their parents’ basement, or are the three different guys living in their parents’ basements?
BADA BING
June 30th, 2010
2:44 pm
Someone wants to filibuster Kagan? Thats not legal in most states. CA will let you though.
WOW
June 30th, 2010
2:45 pm
BADA BING
Yeah, and HDB is also a doctor but doesn’t know what a suture is. LOL
Dr. Stan--(The Black One)
June 30th, 2010
2:45 pm
Wow, you really put your foot in your mouth on that one. No one hates black people but there is a problem. The problem is that integrationist black leaders and their black minions in the media etc have, by hook and by crook, educated black people to hate themselves in exchange for that mean, old mean, mean green.
For the love of money, integrationist black leaders will steal from their mothers. For the love of money, integrationist will betray their brothers. For the love of money, people can’t even walk the street. Integrationist never know who in the world they’re going to beat, for that lean, mean, mean green; that almighty dollar.
You know the story.
WOW
June 30th, 2010
2:46 pm
“Are WOW, BADA BING and Jose all the same guy living in their parents’ basement, or are the three different guys living in their parents’ basements?”
Do you always steal your insults from people you think are one person?
BADA BING
June 30th, 2010
2:46 pm
Et tu, Mr. Holmes?
WOW
June 30th, 2010
2:47 pm
“Wow, you really put your foot in your mouth on that one.”
What one?
WOW
June 30th, 2010
2:47 pm
Mr. Holmes is a paranoid person.
Real American
June 30th, 2010
2:47 pm
Just say its because you love states rights Kyle and get it over with.
BW
June 30th, 2010
2:47 pm
@ WOW…the answer to the second question implies that the conservative Congress won’t do what is necessary to get things under control. I wish either side would stop pretending that they are ever going to do what is necessary to get the fiscal house in order. Defense and entitlements are sacrosanct and no politician is dumb enough to touch those and have his political career intact afterward. Until a majority of Americans figure out what they are willing to do without, then we are having the argument just to have the argument.
Open post to the party(s) of NO
June 30th, 2010
2:47 pm
What comes around, goes around. The republicans are saying no to everything in hopes of stalling until they have the majority in the House and Senate. Once they have control, democrats will return the favor. Partisan politics is going to be nothing but a memory. So the democrats will do the same when they are the minority.
Who loses? We do. Continuous stalemates have no winners. Stop the madness.
BADA BING
June 30th, 2010
2:49 pm
That is quite ironic, you’re name is Holmes, but you haven’t GOT A CLUE! Someone explain that joke to the liberals.
HDB
June 30th, 2010
2:49 pm
BADA BING
June 30th, 2010
2:41 pm
WOW, don’t mess with HDB, he speaks 7 languages, but doesn’t understand anything in all 7 of them.
I understand more than you think……….
WOW
June 30th, 2010
2:41 pm
“Is is racist to point out what has occurred in history…..or since hit dogs holler, have you been hit??”
You do it on a daily basis. When someone talks about the same topic day in and day out………..
Many complex occurrances in life can be traced…and reduced to simple, singular events. That’s how one analyzes….and tries to SOLVE a problem. You can’t solve anything unless one ADMITS that a problem exists……..there are a myriad of problems that exist…but too many people won’t break things down to determine a COMMON DENOMINATOR…..or in math..the GREATEST COMMON FACTOR. One common factor IS race…..and in the US…it IS the greatest common factor…..
Jose
June 30th, 2010
2:49 pm
Mr. Holmes, I have a family, own my own home and have a very nice job. And you?
WOW
June 30th, 2010
2:49 pm
“Until a majority of Americans figure out what they are willing to do without, then we are having the argument just to have the argument.”
That’s why the Tea Party exists. Independents, conservatives and hungover democrat voters are sick of the establishment politicians.
People like Mccain, Spector, Dodd, Fwank etc all have to go.
BW
June 30th, 2010
2:50 pm
@ Dr Stan…I think the description can be applied to all greedy people…you sound like a libertarian…the world will just magically sort itself out because humans are rational…yeah right
WOW
June 30th, 2010
2:51 pm
“You can’t solve anything unless one ADMITS that a problem exists”
HDB, white people don’t just sit around thinking up ways to keep black people down. You on the other hand write paragraph after paragraph about how you are a victim of evil republicans etc….
You are the one with the problem. Problem is, it’s all in your head.
Mr. Holmes
June 30th, 2010
2:52 pm
Jose: Same here. Well, a wife. Baby #1 will arrive next week!
OK I take it back for you. But pretty certain WOW and BADA BING are the same nebbish.
booker T
June 30th, 2010
2:52 pm
Great show you are putting on here WOW. I have read HDB’s statements and he is as racist as they come. You are totally owning these clowns on this debate and it isn’t even close. Carry on HDB, you only speaking the truth and these idiots can’t come up with any lies to trump you. Filibuster the racist, communist hag and lets take our country back! This nonsense has went on for too long and we are losing respect worldwide! Also, blacks are the most racist people in this country, and it isn’t even close.
WOW
June 30th, 2010
2:52 pm
Jobs Market Barely Budges in June as Hiring Stays Weak
http://www.cnbc.com/id/38013729
WOW
June 30th, 2010
2:53 pm
“But pretty certain WOW and BADA BING are the same nebbish.”
Prove it oh paranoid one.
HDB
June 30th, 2010
2:53 pm
WOW
June 30th, 2010
2:45 pm
BADA BING
Yeah, and HDB is also a doctor but doesn’t know what a suture is. LOL
Nope…not a doctor…but I do know what a suture is….also diagnosis…anterior/posterior, cardiovascular……….neonatal……
My cranial cavity is always desirous of expansion…………….not by cockiness…but by confidence!!
BW
June 30th, 2010
2:53 pm
@ WOW…the Tea Party is a group of locally to unorganized people who will never agree on anything in a large enough group to matter worth a sh**. Establishment politicians do need to go but if people are not going to organize around an agenda because it deprives the individual of his or her “freedom” then the status quo it will be.
booker T
June 30th, 2010
2:54 pm
Edit: I meant “carry on WOW”. HDB, you are dumber than Hank Johnson, or are you Hank Johnson, hahaha!
WOW
June 30th, 2010
2:54 pm
“Also, blacks are the most racist people in this country, and it isn’t even close.”
No, not all blacks. The ones that aren’t are busy working and staying away from people like HDB, Obama, Tucker and Jesse Jackson.
NJF
June 30th, 2010
2:56 pm
BW:
Black folk have been voting for white folk forever. I’m willing to bet that I’ve voted for more white candidates than black candidates. I’m also willing to bet that you’ve voted for more white candidates than you have black candidates…
WOW
June 30th, 2010
2:57 pm
“the Tea Party is a group of locally to unorganized people who will never agree on anything in a large enough group to matter worth a sh**.”
Then explain Scott Brown, Chris Christie, Rand Paul, Nikki Halley, Marco Rubio and every other Tea Party candidate that is riding a wave to getting elected in November?
“the Tea Party is a group of locally to unorganized people”
If they’re so “unorganized” why does PMSNBC, CNN, ABC, NY TIMES, WAPOST, PBS, CBS and NBC devote almost 30 mins a day railing on the Tea Party movement?
If something is unorganized and stupid, the left doesn’t talk about it.
It’s like when Jay Bookman wrote about Rush Limbaugh being irrelevant all while devoted 3 days a week to bashing him.
Recovering Demoholic
June 30th, 2010
2:58 pm
Kagan thinks its O.K. if the law bans books, because the government wouldn’t enforce it anyway. Huh? Another befuddled socialist in her own words:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rBqdKKKRrrg
[But, this time it will be kinder, softer versions of socialism, shariaism, and union thuggery.]
BADA BING
June 30th, 2010
2:58 pm
I’m not sure what filibuster really means. Is it what Gore was trying to do to the woman in his room? Daddy, what’s a chakra?
WOW
June 30th, 2010
2:59 pm
“I’m also willing to bet that you’ve voted for more white candidates than you have black candidates…”
That is true. Unless you live in a poor area or city, you don’t see black candidates on the ballot. Sad but true. We need more JC Watts, Alan Keyes and Tim Scotts.
booker T
June 30th, 2010
2:59 pm
You are right WOW, there are great black people out there. They are overshadowed by these bumbling fools. Apologies to the hard working and king black people out there.
BADA BING
June 30th, 2010
3:00 pm
No, we are not the same person. WOW is the smart one. I am the smart , FUNNY one.
WOW
June 30th, 2010
3:01 pm
“Nope…not a doctor…but I do know what a suture is….also diagnosis…anterior/posterior, cardiovascular……….neonatal……”
Something about that statement makes absolutely no sense.
Joe
June 30th, 2010
3:02 pm
Kyle,
I agree that the process is a problem. However, this is not a reason to filibuster a nominee. When you suggest filibuster as some sort of constructive move to force a reconsideration of the process, your assertion seems disingenuously partisan.
Instead, why not create a series of questions you would like asked of Elena Kagan and that you would, as a concerned citizen, pass them on to your senator? Frankly, this process has worked for a long time in the same manner as journalism. You ask the tough questions. If they don’t answer them, or answer evasively, your hope is to expose their reluctance or evasiveness to a discerning, informed public (in this case, moderate/swing senators).
Disagreeing with the process doesn’t equal filibuster if you’re trying to offer something that transcends petty partisanship.
WOW
June 30th, 2010
3:02 pm
“No, we are not the same person. WOW is the smart one. I am the smart , FUNNY one.”
Hey, I’ve said some funny things! Go back and read my first statement on this blog!
BADA BING
June 30th, 2010
3:03 pm
holmes, I am not a nebbish. I am caucasian
BW
June 30th, 2010
3:04 pm
@ WOW…let’s see…in order:
Martha Coakley, Jon Corzine, it’s Kentucky after all, SC finally got tired of the old boy network, Rubio will lose to the traitor Crist, and every other Tea Party got through their primaries but will see what happens in the general especially with Sharron Angle.
They devote so much time because of that liberal media bias of course. They do it in order to frame the voter’s viewpoint as a choice rather than a referendum. This isn’t rocket science.
@ NJF….look I simply think it’s counterproductive to boil a diverse group of people down to Al Sharpton or Rush Limbaugh…I think it’s intellectually lazy….that was the point I was making.
WOW
June 30th, 2010
3:05 pm
“Martha Coakley, Jon Corzine, it’s Kentucky after all, SC finally got tired of the old boy network, Rubio will lose to the traitor Crist, and every other Tea Party got through their primaries but will see what happens in the general especially with Sharron Angle.”
Famous last words, BW.
Recovered Demoholic
June 30th, 2010
3:08 pm
Ooops. That should have been ‘Recovered’ and not ‘Recovering.’ And, while I’m at it. Though off topic, here’s something that is very illustrative of a wide range of things: the recent Supreme Court on guns, the forgiving eulogies of Byrd, and the differences in the roots of the Republican and Democrat parties:
http://www.georgiacarry.org/cms/wp-content/uploads/2007/11/racist-roots-of-ga-gun-laws.pdf
The pictures and cartoons alone are stunning. I’ll bet you’ll end up reading it.
Jose
June 30th, 2010
3:09 pm
People, don’t get caught watching the paint dry when it comes to the Tea Party. Most critics have no idea what they stand for and as a member, the critics are usually dead wrong. Fiscal responsibility is what we are are about and if you check every poll coming out concering what Americans are most concerned about? Government spending number one in every major poll. By the way, Obama got elected through a grass roots start so if you think we are unorganized and going away, you will be pissed come November.
Mr. Holmes
June 30th, 2010
3:10 pm
“every other Tea Party got through their primaries but will see what happens in the general especially with Sharron Angle.”
Fascinated by the Nevada race. Angle is clearly out of the mainstream of political thought. Can she hide from herself long enough to take Harry Reid out? I think probably no. Nevadans may skew conservative, but I think they’d still rather have a sane Dem than a batpoop looney ideologue like Angle.
“They do it in order to frame the voter’s viewpoint as a choice rather than a referendum.”
Hmm. Would love to understand what this means.
“I simply think it’s counterproductive to boil a diverse group of people down to Al Sharpton or Rush Limbaugh”
Possibly the smartest thing that’s been posted on this blog today, including the original post by its owner.
NJF
June 30th, 2010
3:10 pm
Apologies BW…I didn’t notice the quotes.
HDB
June 30th, 2010
3:11 pm
WOW
June 30th, 2010
2:51 pm
“You can’t solve anything unless one ADMITS that a problem exists”
HDB, white people don’t just sit around thinking up ways to keep black people down. You on the other hand write paragraph after paragraph about how you are a victim of evil republicans etc….
If the POLICY is antithetical to what I desire…and the policy reflects the beliefs…..why can’t one call the policy as one sees it?? It’s not in my head…it’s what’s on paper……..
kif
June 30th, 2010
3:16 pm
sandra – if you want “facts”, go read a news report. this is a blog of opinion.
WOW
June 30th, 2010
3:16 pm
“Fascinated by the Nevada race. Angle is clearly out of the mainstream of political thought. ”
Yet she has a 13 point lead over Reid. Oh, and Reid’s son is running for governor yet he dropped his last name…..wonder why?
“Nevadans may skew conservative, but I think they’d still rather have a sane Dem than a batpoop looney ideologue like Angle.”
Yeah, I mean if they want to go bankrupt and continue to be represented by an idiot, by all means put another brain dead retard like Reid in office.
WOW
June 30th, 2010
3:19 pm
“It’s not in my head…it’s what’s on paper……..”
HDB, there obviously isn’t much in your head.
HDB
June 30th, 2010
3:20 pm
WOW
June 30th, 2010
2:54 pm
“Also, blacks are the most racist people in this country, and it isn’t even close.”
No, not all blacks. The ones that aren’t are busy working and staying away from people like HDB, Obama, Tucker and Jesse Jackson.
So….I’m busy working….and knowledgable of issues……and deal with a diverse group of people….read the platforms…and study history; does that marginalize my experiences….or creates the basis of how I vote……??
booker T June 30th, 2010
2:59 pm
I accept your apology…I AM one of the hard working people out here!! btw…don’t live in DeKalb….so Hank Johnson isn’t an issue with me……..
Question: why do you tend to marginalize a person’s experience if that experience has been counter to yours? Do you take the time to attempt to learn from it….or do you continue to denigrate and belittle it?? Here, it seems to be more of the latter than the former…….
Mr. Holmes
June 30th, 2010
3:21 pm
“Yet she has a 13 point lead over Reid.”
Rasmussen (which always tilts right, as you know) has it at a 7-point lead (48-41) as of 6/24. At some point, Angle will have to open her mouth and speak. When that happens, I expect the race to tighten immediately.
And, of course, the 4+ months until the election is an eternity. Oil spill is due to be capped in August, consumer spending will be picking up closer to Christmas… I don’t think 2010 is going to be quite the resurgence the GOP thinks it will. They’ll take back some seats, but not control of either house.
WOW
June 30th, 2010
3:24 pm
“So….I’m busy working….and knowledgable of issues”
No, you’re here blogging. If you’re working I hope your boss fires you for wasting company money. As for issues, first you should learn to spell knowledgeable the correct way, second you have opinions, not knowledge.
“and study history”
But you haven’t produced any historical evidence of anything, HDB.
“does that marginalize my experiences”
No, you do a good job at marginalizing yourself into a hole. A big racist hole.
“or creates the basis of how I vote’
I don’t care how you vote. You could go in blindfolded and standing on your head. Doesn’t make a difference to me how you vote.
WOW
June 30th, 2010
3:26 pm
“Rasmussen (which always tilts right, as you know) has it at a 7-point lead”
Still, a big lead.
“At some point, Angle will have to open her mouth and speak.”
She already did and has a big lead over Reid.
“Oil spill is due to be capped in August”
Not sure how that helps Democrats.
“I don’t think 2010 is going to be quite the resurgence the GOP thinks it will.”
Yeah, and James Carville said the GOP is going the way of the Whig Party in 2008. He’s singing a different tune now.
BADA BING
June 30th, 2010
3:26 pm
I will be so glad when I get my GED, I was too poor to have fancy things like holmes and hdb, you know , like plumbing , an education, and an informed opinion. When I get smart, I want to be able to understand all those big, fancy words that all the liberals use.
WOW
June 30th, 2010
3:27 pm
“why do you tend to marginalize a person’s experience if that experience has been counter to yours?”
No one is marginalizing anything HDB. You are the one who rants and rails on white people.
WOW
June 30th, 2010
3:29 pm
Mr. Holmes
Ted Kennedys old 30 year old seat was lost to a Tea Party candidate in a solid Democrat state. Now I know you gals on the left use the “oh we had a bad candidate to run” but guess what? YOU LEFTYS PICKED HER!!!!!!!
See ya in November!
BADA BING
June 30th, 2010
3:29 pm
Hey look holmes, proof that we are not the same person. WOW and BADA BING both have an entry at the same time……3:26.
Jose
June 30th, 2010
3:30 pm
People, Reid is toast in Nevada and even if a Tea Partier was not running, he would still lose. Reid has been his own worst enemy. Notice how he is not in the news much any more? Closed mouth, no stupid comments.
WOW
June 30th, 2010
3:30 pm
BADA BING
Did someone steal your handle or were you just being sarcastic to HDB?
pat
June 30th, 2010
3:33 pm
She’s flippin’ horrible. If she cannot answer questions directly she should be uncerimonially dismissed. At least with Sotomyer you had her prior experience on which to judge. You have nothing for Kegan. She is seeking a job for life by being evasive. I hope the democrats see through this too, but I doubt their genuiness. They’ll confirm her because she’s on their side, not because she’s qualified.
Her answers suck, she does not deserve the job. She’s done nothing but be obama’s chum to even be suggested.
BADA BING
June 30th, 2010
3:33 pm
Sarcasm, it’s a form of humor.
Mr. Holmes
June 30th, 2010
3:34 pm
“People, Reid is toast in Nevada and even if a Tea Partier was not running, he would still lose.”
You misunderstand. Reid is going to win precisely *because* there is a Tea Partier running–at least, because this particular Tea Partier is running.
BADA BING
June 30th, 2010
3:35 pm
WOW, none of the libtards could use my handle, they don’t know how to spell it.
BADA BING
June 30th, 2010
3:36 pm
It is really not a name, but a sound.
BW
June 30th, 2010
3:36 pm
@ Mr Holmes….it simply means that the means justified the ends….if I work at Fox News I paint liberals and Democrats in a bad light and if I work at MSNBC I paint conservatives and Republicans in a bad light….and hope it resonates so people turn gray issues into black and white ones and keep voting for the guy whose world view I agree with.
@ WOW…we will see if those are famous last words but though it works sometimes you can’t get elected by making the case that you suck a little less than the incumbent. Angle race will be interesting…ignore the polls until the week before…after both candidates debate each other and start making their final pitches…many things can happen between the end of June and November 4.
HDB
June 30th, 2010
3:38 pm
WOW June 30th, 2010
3:24 pm
I have not marginalized myself…nor anyone here! I relate my experiences and have cross-referenced them with data…..
The key thing is that I DO vote…..and since I do, I have the right to state my opinion….
Opinions are based on knowledge and experience…..and I am an informed voter…..
BW
June 30th, 2010
3:39 pm
@ Pat…regardless of what Mr Kyle believes…all the nominees will be confirmed as long as their experience doesn’t veer too far outside of the mainstream…this is a grandstanding exercise pure and simple.
WOW
June 30th, 2010
3:41 pm
“Opinions are based on knowledge and experience…..and I am an informed voter…..”
HDB, you’re also a narcissist. You talk only about your needs and your problems. Hey! You’re perfect for the Democrat Party! ME ME ME! MINE MINE MINE!
Roger Rabbit
June 30th, 2010
3:41 pm
Is WOW really LA/DavidAxelfraud in disguise? His bullying rantings seem familiar.
WOW
June 30th, 2010
3:42 pm
BW
Why should I ignore the polls? Democrats are ALWAYS referring to polls. In fact, Daily Kos got taken for a ride for a fake poll and now Markos Nutjob is suing the polling company.
WOW
June 30th, 2010
3:43 pm
“Is WOW really LA/DavidAxelfraud in disguise? ”
Hey Dewstarpath!
BADA BING
June 30th, 2010
3:46 pm
Hey WOW, let’s agree with all the liberals so they will LIKE US !
WOW
June 30th, 2010
3:49 pm
BADA BING
Liberals don’t like anything. Just watch Rachel Madcow or Keith Olberqueer. They are ALWAYS crying about anything and everything. I really do think left wingers want everyone to be miserable.
BW
June 30th, 2010
3:49 pm
@ WOW…I would ignore the polls because at some point this woman will have to actually conduct an interview and present the policies she would advocate…if she and Rand Paul are so confident that their ideology is a panacea for America’s problems they shouldn’t be afraid of doing interviews.
WOW
June 30th, 2010
3:50 pm
“America’s problems they shouldn’t be afraid of doing interviews.”
Interviews with who?
BW
June 30th, 2010
3:53 pm
@ WOW….let’s start with the local media…I’m not asking them to go on Olbermann, Maddow, or Matthews…how about Sheppard Smith….someone that will ask questions in a way that the candidate must fully enunciate their world view so the voters of Nevada and Kentucky actually know what they are voting for or against.
LibraryJim
June 30th, 2010
3:54 pm
The problem is that the Republicans currently serving do not have the backbone to do this. That’s why we need to vote them all out and get a new crop of true conservatives in place.
Seriously?
June 30th, 2010
3:56 pm
Most people here seem to overlook the obvious. When voting for President you are also voting for their Supreme Court picks. One of the most long term benefits of the job is to put on the bench people who have somewhat similar views. It is a privledge that every President takes advantage of (with a few exceptions for Presidents who thought the person would vote one way and ended up voting another).
The process of confirmation has been tainted by Senators voting not on whether the candidate is QUALIFIED, but on whether they happen to agree with that candidate’s opinions, so opinions are no longer given. I don’t think anyone could make a case for Myers, but despite her lack of bench experience Kagan is clearly an extremely experienced and qualified legal mind. She would not be the first Justice without bench experience. Most analysis puts her as one of the most moderate of Obama’s potential choices. The right should be pleased that he didn’t go for an extreme, though qualified, candidate. Fillibuster? Get over it unless you feel it would be right for the Democrats to fillibuster the next qualified right wing judge presented by the next Republican President.
WOW
June 30th, 2010
3:56 pm
“how about Sheppard Smith”
He doesn’t conduct interviews with candidates. The candidates we’re talking about are local candidates and should do local interviews.
“fully enunciate their world view so the voters of Nevada and Kentucky actually know what they are voting for or against.”
Worldview? They’re not running for president, BW. Hell, all Angle has to do is point to Reid and say, “Hey, look at that guy, I’m the total opposite of that clown. I believe in the free market, tight border security, less government.” Done. She wins.
BW
June 30th, 2010
3:58 pm
@ Library Jim…the problem is that “true conservatives” will never a majority just as “true liberals” never will. People had a chance to vote them out in the primaries and in 98% of the cases a majority of voters decided the status quo in their parties was just fine.
WOW
June 30th, 2010
3:59 pm
“the problem is that “true conservatives” will never a majority just as “true liberals” never will.”
Conservatism trumps liberalism any day. Hell, Obama ran a conservative campaign.
“People had a chance to vote them out in the primaries and in 98% of the cases a majority of voters decided the status quo in their parties was just fine.”
Huh?
WOW
June 30th, 2010
4:00 pm
“the problem is that “true conservatives” will never a majority just as “true liberals” never will.”
Well yeah, people in Illinois and Michigan always vote for idiotic libs who cater to unions.
Jose
June 30th, 2010
4:00 pm
Mr. Holmes, Reid would lose to a pink poodle running on the Poodles for Dictators Party. Please, be real with your leaders. Hell, I even expected and was correct, that 2006 was going to be bad for my party because of what was going on. We are WORSE off now then 2006 so a dose of reality Mr. Holmes is needed in your life.
BW
June 30th, 2010
4:00 pm
@ WOW…again we’ll see but if you believe that she doesn’t have to get the voters a reason to elect her then those voters will be as disappointed as those vaunted tea partiers who were “responsible” for Scott Brown’s victory only to find out he’s not an ideologue.
BADA BING
June 30th, 2010
4:00 pm
WOW, did you see the story about the liberal school system that was distributing condoms to 5th graders. Maybe Al Gore could show them how to use them. I think Gore was confused about Global Warming. It was probably just the warming KY jelly he was using with ‘ the ladies’.
WOW
June 30th, 2010
4:01 pm
BW
No one ever said there’d be a TOTAL conservative House or Senate. But guess what, Obama is making sure conservatism comes back. Carter ushered in Reagan. Obama will usher in someone who is conservative.
We have to be conservative because congress men and women have spent our money like drunken idiots.
WOW
June 30th, 2010
4:02 pm
“again we’ll see but if you believe that she doesn’t have to get the voters a reason to elect her then those voters will be as disappointed as those vaunted tea partiers who were “responsible” for Scott Brown’s victory only to find out he’s not an ideologue.”
She’s given the voters plenty of reason to vote for her. If not, she would not have a 7 point lead. Duh!
BW
June 30th, 2010
4:02 pm
@ WOW…I’m referring to the party primaries that have already taken place this year in many states. Most incumbents will be on the general election ticket…98% of them in fact. In regards to Mich and IL….all politics is local. I think moderation trumps conservatism and liberalism in the long run but that’s just me.
WOW
June 30th, 2010
4:03 pm
“did you see the story about the liberal school system that was distributing condoms to 5th graders.”
Yeah, and these same idiots complain when their classes are too full. Liberalism = retardation.
WOW
June 30th, 2010
4:04 pm
“I think moderation trumps conservatism and liberalism in the long run but that’s just me.”
There’s no such thing as being a moderate. People are sick of moderates because moderates get nothing accomplished.
Mccain’s a “moderate” and he got his @ss kicked in 2008. Palin was the only reason he didn’t lose all 50 states. Or as Obama calls it, 57 states.
BW
June 30th, 2010
4:05 pm
@ WOW…agreed about Congress spending but they didn’t start on Jan 20, 2009…there are structural deficit issues with our budget because all the politicians shake in their boots when it comes to altering the real spending….Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid, national defense and of course the interest payments for all the debt. Again a poll is a snapshot…she hasn’t debated Reid yet…we’ll see where the polls are after that.
WOW
June 30th, 2010
4:05 pm
“In regards to Mich and IL….all politics is local.”
That statement contradicts everything you’ve written about candidates on a national level. If politics is local, why are you calling for Angle to give an interview to Shep Smith?
WOW
June 30th, 2010
4:06 pm
“she hasn’t debated Reid yet”
There’s not a lot to debate. All she has to do is run clips of all the stupid things he’s said and done over the past few years.
BW
June 30th, 2010
4:07 pm
@ WOW….moderation got things done…not perfectly but done…now the word compromise does not exist in people’s vocabulary. McCain made it pretty clear he would be a continuation of the status quo and Obama has guaranteed that he will be in alot of respects.
WOW
June 30th, 2010
4:08 pm
“agreed about Congress spending but they didn’t start on Jan 20, 2009″
No, but since then, Obama has hit the gas peddle and driven our country over a cliff. He’s spent 10 times as much as Bush ever did. Not saying Bush didn’t spend a lot but Bush is nothing compared to the guy in the White House now.
WOW
June 30th, 2010
4:08 pm
“moderation got things done”
Like what?
“Obama has guaranteed that he will be in alot of respects.”
Obama is Woodrow Wilson on steroids.
BW
June 30th, 2010
4:10 pm
@ WOW…I was just throwing a name out to your question since you will only do a friendly crowd interview…Angle has said some interesting things herself and Reid can illuminate those things. Candidates get elected locally of course but campaign nationally in addition to locally which is why are we are talking about them now.
WOW
June 30th, 2010
4:12 pm
“Angle has said some interesting things herself ”
Like what?
BW
June 30th, 2010
4:12 pm
@ WOW…I meant Angle will only do friendly crowds…moderation has helped kept the country together…we cannot fight zero sum games and expect anything to happen…no it’s not sexy but it is necessary.
BW
June 30th, 2010
4:13 pm
@ WOW….let’s see…eliminate the EPA and Social Security, criticism of BP is un-American…I’m not weighing in on the validity of those statements but they need to be expanded upon.
WOW
June 30th, 2010
4:16 pm
“eliminate the EPA and Social Security”
SS is bankrupt.
“criticism of BP is un-American”
What has Obama and the awesome government done to help? Nothing.
“I’m not weighing in on the validity of those statements but they need to be expanded upon.”
Yeah, so does the fact that Obama has done absolutely nothing as president.
DT
June 30th, 2010
4:26 pm
HDB is throwing around a few historical inaccuracies, I assume others have picked up on. “Plessy vs. Ferguson” was an 1896 Supreme Court decision (by decidedly racist judges, of course) that ’separate but equal’ was ok regarding schools (Brown v. Board of education in 1954 reversed that decision and essentially stated that ’separate’ inherently means unequal and, therefore, schools could not continue to be segregated.
The 3/5 to which you incorrectly refer goes to the original forming of US for purposes of determining population for representative government (the House of Representatives). A slave (I believe had to be American born to be counted) counted as 3/5 of 1 for purposes of determining population in those states that had slavery. “The 3/5ths Compromise” is one of many (possibly the most important) compromises that allowed the Constitution to even be ratified (to solve the issue of slave vs. non-slave states). I believe all but the most ignorant (and racist) of people can agree that slavery is the single biggest scar in the country’s history (perhaps eradication of Indians by disease and wars is worse). So, some 80 years later there was a small war over the slavery issue as certain states said they would secede from the Union if a certain Republican (Abraham Lincoln) was elected President in 1860.
All that and I didn’t even have to go to Wikipedia (it’s about 7th-8th grade civics)
Dr. Stan--(The Black One)
June 30th, 2010
4:30 pm
BW, the description can be applied to greedy integrationist people, especially African American leaders and their minions… I’m just too busy to explain in detail…
Every human I know is rational. We have differing opinions on what constitutes being human. I’m first and foremost a God fearing person. Everything that follows is inconsequential…
It is the will of God that the world magically sorts itself out like creation or it goes the way of lost civilizations; that’s right.
I’ll talk to everybody later; God willing.
WOW
June 30th, 2010
4:30 pm
DT
You’re talking about a person who says Reagan was a racist but Robert Byrd was not.
gatorman770
June 30th, 2010
4:31 pm
I think that’s one good reason to filibuster, but another is the fact that the confirmation of “Al Capone” Kagan will give the court 3 progressive female justices, all from New York City, which is not what I call court diversity. How ’bout one of the fine female judges with actual judicial experience from the Southeast or Southwest!
MarkV
June 30th, 2010
4:35 pm
The most empty column Kyle has written in a long time. Absolutely brainless.
HDB
June 30th, 2010
4:35 pm
WOW
June 30th, 2010
4:30 pm
DT
You’re talking about a person who says Reagan was a racist but Robert Byrd was not.
Byrd asked for forgiveness; Reagan did not. Reagan supported segregation; Byrd changes and supported civil rights….
There IS a difference!! Byrd had his moments…but changed….Reagan never did!!
Gotta run…good afternoon, all……………
WOW
June 30th, 2010
4:36 pm
“The most empty column Kyle has written in a long time. Absolutely brainless.”
Well Kyle, anytime you anger an angry left winger, you’ve obviously earned your paycheck from the AJC.
Lourdes
June 30th, 2010
4:37 pm
You guys are so awesome. Who among us exited the womb with more than any other, and who will leave this ‘life’ with more than all others? Who does not enslave, or better yet… who does not bind? Am I free if I “have to” believe as you do? Am I free if you bind me to all the miles of sand that have passed beneath ‘your’ feet? If you bind me to your experience and then judge me then you are a slave master. If you bind me and then claim that I am free then you are a hypocrite.
Who here does not bind, demand, mandate, judge, deceive…?
If you do not… I am your biggest fan.
Gottab
June 30th, 2010
4:38 pm
I think WOW is manic !!! take a chill pill!!!
WOW
June 30th, 2010
4:38 pm
Byrd asked for forgiveness; Reagan did not. Reagan supported segregation; Byrd changes and supported civil rights….blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah
HDB=Broken Record
“Byrd had his moments…but changed….Reagan never did!!”
Reagan will and always will be better than any democrat. Oh, and Reagan didn’t hang black people nor call them the N word. Byrd did.
Sucks to be you.
BADA BING
June 30th, 2010
4:38 pm
With all that is going on in the country, John McCain has got to be the luckiest man alive !
WOW
June 30th, 2010
4:39 pm
“I think WOW is manic !!! take a chill pill!!!”
If I were manic, I’d be like Al Gore.
WOW
June 30th, 2010
4:40 pm
Lourdes
As a citizen of Earth, let me say, WELCOME TO EARTH!
Lourdes
June 30th, 2010
4:43 pm
WOW, Namaste my brother!
MarkV
June 30th, 2010
4:46 pm
WOW: Why do you have such a penchant for being wrong? I was not angry when I wrote that Kyle’s column was empty, just expressed my view of the waste of time and newspaper space with fluff. As for you answer to a comparison of Byrd and Reagan: You are a liar. Byrd did not hang anybody.
Dave from GT
June 30th, 2010
4:49 pm
Why are the women lawyers on FOX so much more BABES that OBAMA’s nominees. He needs to nominate a BABE!!!! It would also increase the court’s diversity.
No modesty panel at the nominee’s desk in Congress. CSPN ratings thru the roof!!
MarkV
June 30th, 2010
4:52 pm
“Yeah, so does the fact that Obama has done absolutely nothing as president.”
Is this an entry for the most stupid comment of the year?
Jose
June 30th, 2010
4:53 pm
Ok Mark V, what has he done? I mean correctly done.
MarkV
June 30th, 2010
4:57 pm
JoseL “Correctly” is meaningless. You probablly mean what he dd what you think was “correct,” right? In other words, when somebody does things YOU do not think are “correct,” he or she did “nothing,” right? .
WOW
June 30th, 2010
5:01 pm
“You are a liar. Byrd did not hang anybody.”
Yeah, keep telling yourself that!
“Why do you have such a penchant for being wrong? ”
Funny, you never pointed out anything that I said that was wrong.
WOW
June 30th, 2010
5:02 pm
“Is this an entry for the most stupid comment of the year?’
Ok, so what has he done?
Stimulus failed, we’re still in two wars, three if you count the Gulf of Mexico, Gitmo is still opened, Iran has nukes and democrats are losing seats left and right.
So, tell me what he’s done right.
Just SAY IT!
June 30th, 2010
5:03 pm
Kagan may be smart, but her opening remarks sounded like code for “gay rights” and gay marriage. All her talk about “equal rights for all people”–she said that many times. Right now, the primary people barking about not having “equal rights” are those in the homosexual community who wish to marry. I say the woman is in the closet. Just come out; be yourself. And let Oprah and Gayle join in the announcement.
WOW
June 30th, 2010
5:03 pm
“Byrd did not hang anybody.”
Unless you attended his Klan meetings, you would not know that.
WOW
June 30th, 2010
5:04 pm
“JoseL “Correctly” is meaningless. You probablly mean what he dd what you think was “correct,” right? In other words, when somebody does things YOU do not think are “correct,” he or she did “nothing,” right? .”
Code word for: Mark V doesn’t have a clue.
MarkV
June 30th, 2010
5:08 pm
MarkV: “Byrd did not hang anybody.”
WOW: “Unless you attended his Klan meetings, you would not know that.”
You are the one who claimed he did. Did you know it because you attended?
MarkV
June 30th, 2010
5:10 pm
WOW: “Code word for: Mark V doesn’t have a clue.”
A little problem of comprehedning an argument?.
JDW
June 30th, 2010
5:11 pm
Atta boy Kyle just keep on promoting that Ol’ Republican Obstructionism. The President, of either party, has the right to make appointments that are consistent with his or her principles. That is what you win by winning elections. This idea that the minority can block appointments just because they don’t like the politics of an appointee is ludicrous. Of course you don’t like Kagan’s politics she is a Democrat, but unless you can come up with a material reason she should not serve then sit down and shut up!
red
June 30th, 2010
5:12 pm
He’s better then Bush, but that ain’t saying much, anywho missed 420 gonna double down at 840, God bless…
MarkV
June 30th, 2010
5:13 pm
WOW: Stimulus failed in your imagination. Two wars, Gitmo and Iran – same as under Bush.
WOW
June 30th, 2010
5:16 pm
For anyone who wants to see PREDATORS, here is a cool clip from the new movie.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ecPa0yGCxk&feature=player_embedded
WOW
June 30th, 2010
5:17 pm
“You are the one who claimed he did. Did you know it because you attended?”
No, if I wanted to attend a klan rally I would go to the DNC.
WOW
June 30th, 2010
5:18 pm
“A little problem of comprehedning an argument?.”
The only thing I have trouble comprehending is your poor spelling.
WOW
June 30th, 2010
5:19 pm
“Stimulus failed in your imagination. Two wars, Gitmo and Iran – same as under Bush.”
Unemployment is 10%. It was 8% under Bush in his last month in office.
Obama said he’d get us out of Iraq and close Gitmo. Guess what dim wit, we’re still there and Gitmo is still opened.
WOW
June 30th, 2010
5:20 pm
“He’s better then Bush”
Bush had approval ratings above 50% for 6 years. Obama’s approval rating is 42% and he hasn’t been in office for 2 years.
redneck
June 30th, 2010
5:22 pm
Wow, You’ve been blogging since 1 pmish, must suck to be you. My guess is the only friends you have are the pimples on your fat-ass…..
WOW
June 30th, 2010
5:23 pm
“but unless you can come up with a material reason she should not serve then sit down and shut up!”
She has no experience, much like her commie pal Obama. I love it when retarded left wingers tell other bloggers to shut up all while typing their threats in their inbred parents trailer.
WOW
June 30th, 2010
5:25 pm
“You’ve been blogging since 1 pmish, must suck to be you.”
Yeah, that’s because I have time, ma’am. No, actually it’s great to be me. I get to sit here and make fun of troglodytes like you.
“My guess is the only friends you have are the pimples on your fat-ass…..”
Hey, that’s no way to talk about your wife!
Reason why Kagan should be fillibustered
June 30th, 2010
5:34 pm
Kagan in her own words.
KAGAN: Senator, with respect I — I — I don’t think that that’s what happened, uh, here.
HATCH: I’m happy to have you clarify. That’s my question. Did you write that memo?
KAGAN: I’m sorry, the memo which is…?
HATCH: The memo that basically caused them to go back to the language of “medically necessary,” that was the big issue to begin with.
KAGAN: Yes. Well, I’ve seen the document and the document is –
HATCH: But did you write it?
KAGAN: — is certainly –
HATCH: Is that your memo?
KAGAN: The document is certainly in my handwriting.
Democrat voters=Retardation
June 30th, 2010
5:37 pm
Russian Spies disguised themselves as journalists and college professors. Hmmmmm, makes so much sense.
Curiosities Emerge About Suspected Russian Agents
They seemed so normal, buying houses in the suburbs, walking their children to the bus stop in the morning, bringing home flowers in the evening, telling the neighbors they worked in trendy industries like financial services. But the Justice Department says that they were deep-cover spies from Russia and that their mission was to infiltrate American “policymaking circles.”
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/06/30/nyregion/30suspects.html
"Information becomes a distraction, a diversion, a form of entertainment" - BHO, May 1, 2010
June 30th, 2010
5:40 pm
Under Kagan’s definition of the government’s role in policing free speech, the state would have a remit to censor things like newspaper editorials, as well as the political opinions of radio talk show hosts or television reporters. This is alarming given the fact that Obama’s information technology czar Cass Sunstein has called for the re-introduction of the “fairness doctrine,” which would also force political websites to carry mandatory government propaganda.
Obama’s Supreme Court nominee also thinks certain expressions of free speech should be ‘disappeared’ if the government deems them to be offensive. On the surface that’s any opinion on racial, sexuality or gender issues, but since criticizing Obama is now deemed racist, where will it all end?
In a 1993 University of Chicago Law review article, Kagan wrote, “I take it as a given that we live in a society marred by racial and gender inequality, that certain forms of speech perpetuate and promote this inequality, and that the uncoerced disappearance of such speech would be cause for great elation.”
In a 1996 paper, “Private Speech, Public Purpose: The Role of Governmental Motive in First Amendment Doctrine,” Kagan argued it may be proper to suppress speech because it is offensive to society or to the government.
Kagan’s standpoint on free speech, that it is subject to regulation and definition by the government, has no place in America, completely violates the fundamental premise of the First Amendment, that even unpopular speech should be protected, and would be better suited for countries like Iran, Zimbabwe or North Korea.
Little surprise therefore when we learn that in her undergraduate thesis at Princeton, Kagan lamented the decline of socialism in the U.S. as “sad” for those who still hope to “change America.”
If Kagan is approved she is going to find an eager ally in White House information czar Cass Sunstein, who in a January 2008 white paper entitled “Conspiracy Theories,” called for the government to tax and outright censor political viewpoints it deemed unsavory.
HELL NO !
Scott
June 30th, 2010
5:47 pm
Everyone should take this for what it is OPINION not fact. Kyle is by nature right wing. Thats why he writes HIS OPINION for the AJC (he is there right wing replacement for whats his name). If you are looking for only cold hard facts…this is not the place you should be looking
Scott
June 30th, 2010
5:47 pm
Sorry “their replacement”…
"Information becomes a distraction, a diversion, a form of entertainment" - BHO, May 1, 2010
June 30th, 2010
5:50 pm
Dear Scott – HuffingtonPost sounds like a reliable and unbiased news source…….
Scott
June 30th, 2010
5:51 pm
Oh…she will be confirmed, she will lean left just as GWB’s lean right. Its all about who is president when a replacement comes up…as long as they are qualified which Kagen most certainly is. It doesn’t matter what her opinion is, and Sen.Sessions of all people should know that after he was denied confirmation to the bench himself for that very reason.
Democrat voters=Retardation
June 30th, 2010
5:52 pm
“HuffingtonPost sounds like a reliable and unbiased news source…….:
Yeah, that and Daily Kos, Media Matters and PMSNBC. Funny thing about the Kos is that the Kos got taken for a ride. Dumb @ss left wingers.
Scott
June 30th, 2010
5:52 pm
Blah blah blah…if flaming is all you got fine…
Democrat voters=Retardation
June 30th, 2010
5:53 pm
“Blah blah blah…if flaming is all you got fine…”
Speaking of flaming, isn’t Kagan………..
Paulo 977
June 30th, 2010
6:19 pm
cj @1:34pm … Well done …case laid out simply and coherently . But then some just don’t seem to get ‘coherently’ do they?
Cutty
June 30th, 2010
6:24 pm
“So, why should Kagan now pay for the sins of Sotomayor and others?”
Because a democratic President nominated them.
Three words: Roberts and Alito
MarkV
June 30th, 2010
6:30 pm
WOW: If you have trouble comprehending poor spelling, it shows that your knowledge of English badly needs improvement.
Ragnar Danneskjöld
June 30th, 2010
6:31 pm
Dear HDB @ 12:59, a thoughtful conservative understands that the Plessy court “read” things into the Constitution, things they believed were in a penumbra but not actually in words; “separate, but equal” does not appeal anywhere in the Constitution. The Brown court corrected the activist ruling of the past, by saying that when the Congress grants “equality” anything other than full “equality” is illegal. The perversity is that had the Southern Democrats truly provided “equal” facilities – prior to Brown – for the “second class citizens” they might have been able to keep their vaunted separateness. The Plessy requirements were mere words to the local autocrats. The overlords have always used the guns of government to effect their prejudices, and still do.
MarkV
June 30th, 2010
6:32 pm
“Unemployment is 10%. It was 8% under Bush in his last month in office. ”
And rising. You are suprised that it went further up? Talking about dimwit!
MarkV
June 30th, 2010
6:35 pm
WOW: “Obama said he’d get us out of Iraq and close Gitmo. Guess what dim wit, we’re still there and Gitmo is still opened.”
No mention of who got us into Iraq, and who opened Gitmo for the present use?
MarkV
June 30th, 2010
6:38 pm
WOW: “No, if I wanted to attend a klan rally I would go to the DNC.”
In other words, you made a stupid accusation, and now you do not know how to respond with anything except another stupidity.
saywhat?
June 30th, 2010
6:41 pm
Kyle, the idea to filibuster Kagan’s nomination is a blatantly bad one, for the reasons enumerated by one of your more intelligent posters, Joe @ 3:02. Also, as stated by many posters, elections have consequences, and political appointments is one of them.
I actually would like to see Kagan’s nomination defeated and/or withdrawn. While she appears to be a social liberal, Kagan seems to be much too corporatist for my tastes, (as was Sotomayor). I would love for Obama to nominate a real progressive judge, but it doesn’t appear that this will happen, ever. Conservatives on whole should not be complaining re: Obama’s Supreme Court nominations, who are far more centrist than any nominated by GWB. The court has swung so far right the last 30+ years, with right wing judges replaced by judges even further right, and left wing judges replaced by judges closer to the center. Even if Obama had the chance to replace one of the 5 justices in all those recent 5-4 decisions, the movement to the left would still be far less than the move right caused by the initial appointment.
@ HDB. Give up. You are only feeding the trolls. Comment on the topic at hand and ignore the idiotic rantings of the willfully ignorant. Every time you respond to their infantile garbage, you encourage them to post more of it, meaning I have to scroll past it to get to something worth reading. You are obviously a thoughtful and intelligent poster. Don’t waste that thought and intelligence answering questions and challenges that others put no thought or intelligence into making.
WOW
June 30th, 2010
6:43 pm
“If you have trouble comprehending poor spelling, it shows that your knowledge of English badly needs improvement.”
How, you’re the one misspelling simple words, retard.
WOW
June 30th, 2010
6:44 pm
“You are suprised that it went further up?”
Nope, and again, you misspell another simple word. It’s spelled, surprised, not suprised. Dumb @ss.
WOW
June 30th, 2010
6:45 pm
“No mention of who got us into Iraq, and who opened Gitmo for the present use?”
Yeah, democrats and republicans. Both sides signed on to the war. As far as Gitmo goes, Obama said he was going to close it down in his first year.
We’re now in year 2 and it’s still open.
"Information becomes a distraction, a diversion, a form of entertainment" - BHO, May 1, 2010
June 30th, 2010
6:45 pm
The Progressives have refused to address my assertions regarding nominee Kagan.
Typical.
Kagan does not support free speech. In fact she believes Government can censor political and unsavory speech.
“Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.” — 1st Amendment to The Constitution of The United States of America. Ratified on December 15, 1791
Progressives use it when it’s convenient for their cause but will deny it to those they disagree with.
Karl Marx taught them this.
WOW
June 30th, 2010
6:46 pm
“In other words, you made a stupid accusation, and now you do not know how to respond with anything except another stupidity.”
You don’t get sarcasm do you, Muck V?
Go back to playing with your dolls.
WOW
June 30th, 2010
6:48 pm
“Three words: Roberts and Alito”
As Joe Biden once said, “Roberts gave the best answers of any nominee that I have ever seen.”
MarkV
June 30th, 2010
6:48 pm
WOW: Go back to playing with yourself.
WOW
June 30th, 2010
6:49 pm
“The Progressives have refused to address my assertions regarding nominee Kagan.”
What do you expect? Left wingers get their degrees in pottery making and philosophy. They don’t know how to address real questions.
Typical left wing answer: Bush did it!
WOW
June 30th, 2010
6:49 pm
“Go back to playing with yourself.”
Is that the best comeback you can think of, Carrot Top?
WOW
June 30th, 2010
6:50 pm
“WOW: Go back to playing with yourself.”
Nice, great retort to a slew of rebuttals from me. You’re special ed teacher must be proud of you.
Gerald West
June 30th, 2010
6:52 pm
This is a new low for you, Kyle! First, you defend the filibuster, a political contrivance to block the actions of the representatives elected by the vast majority of Americans. Second, you suggest that justices of the Supreme Court should be selected according to their political views on contemporary issues rather than their knowledge, courage, and determination to defend our Constitutional rights.
The “conservative” charlatans in Congress are interested in a single issue: restricting the abortion rights of women. Kagan will dance around the issue, and so will her questioners. She’ll never be nominated if she promises to uphold the liberty of all Americans, including pregnant women and gay men.
Liberty is the reason for the existence of the Constitution, as stated in the opening paragraph of the document. Liberty means the right to each person to conduct his life as he sees fit, whether the majority approve or not, so long as he does not encroach on the rights of others.
WOW
June 30th, 2010
6:55 pm
“First, you defend the filibuster, a political contrivance to block the actions of the representatives elected by the vast majority of Americans.”
You must have been angry when Democrats did it to Republicans a few years ago. If not, you’re a typical left wing hypocrite.
“including pregnant women and gay men.”
So is she a gay man or woman?
“so long as he does not encroach on the rights of others.”
?????
Ragnar Danneskjöld
June 30th, 2010
7:00 pm
The real solution to the Lady KaGa problem is “term limits,” a Constitutional amendment setting a ten-year term for every Federal judge, with no grandfather provision.
"Information becomes a distraction, a diversion, a form of entertainment" - BHO, May 1, 2010
June 30th, 2010
7:05 pm
Bravo Ragnar at 7pm !!!
Enormous H
June 30th, 2010
7:06 pm
WOW! What a pathetic loser! Over ONE HUNDRED idiotic posts by this one cretin alone! In just six and half hours. Talk about no friggin life! And talk about talking about nothing.
WOW, LA. I stand in awe of your unrivaled ability to be an industrial strength imbecile.
saywhat?
June 30th, 2010
7:07 pm
Kyle, why do you still tolerate the trashing of your blog? You have the same single poster, different day, different name, fill up the comments section, post after post after post with worthless, sometimes abusive , sometimes hateful drivel. I would like to assume that maybe you just ignore it as you scroll by, like I usually do.
Unfortunately, I do think that it reflects poorly on you, and unfairly at that. But since this fool is always in general agreement with your initial post before she starts off on her endless rantings, and attacks any who disagree with you, your silence over the matter gives the appearance of at least tacit approval, to the abusive poster if to nobody else. I understand you have more to do than monitor your blog 24/7and baby sit the immature, but is there nothing you can do to curtail this abuse? Are you not embarrassed that this noxious spew comprises the largest portion of your blog? I know I have raised this concern with you once or twice in the past, and I am disappointed that the issue continues. It would surprise me greatly if I were the only one to feel this way.
"Information becomes a distraction, a diversion, a form of entertainment" - BHO, May 1, 2010
June 30th, 2010
7:08 pm
#1 – Constitutional Amendment requiring Term Limits for all members of Congress
#2 – Constitutional Amendment requiring a Balanced Federal Budget every year, no excuses.
#3 – Repeal the 16th Amendment (Income Tax) and replace it with a Flat Tax or Fair Tax, a National Lottery and massive consumption taxes on alcohol, tobacco and marijuana.
#4 – Congress must repeal The War Powers Act. This law allows the POTUS to start wars without an official declaration by Congress. Congress granted it and they can take it back. Get it done.
#5 – Seal the borders immediately. Once they’re closed we can discuss how to go forward with the illegal population already here.
Start There — November 2, 2010 is only 125 days away.
WOW
June 30th, 2010
7:11 pm
Enormous H
I saw you on 11 Alive news last night for attempting to rape that Yak at the Atlanta Zoo. You must be really “hard up” for a mate. You should try E Harmony or Match instead of trying to fornicate with farm animals.
“I stand in awe of your unrivaled ability to be an industrial strength imbecile.”
Well I stand in awe of your chronic rape attempts on farm animals.
WOW
June 30th, 2010
7:13 pm
saywhat?
Interesting, I just moseyed over to Bookman’s blog and noticed that you called someone a “nut sack.”
"Information becomes a distraction, a diversion, a form of entertainment" - BHO, May 1, 2010
June 30th, 2010
7:14 pm
I just posted a legitimate political platform for any candidate to win with.
Where is the Progressive platform for 2010?
Is it just “Blame Bush”?
How about Conservatives go with “Blame Obama”?
Both suck!
Ragnar Danneskjöld
June 30th, 2010
7:16 pm
Dear Info @ 7:08, not bad. I fear your #2 would become the “annual higher taxes” mandate; a better focus would restrict increases in spending. But yours is better than what we have now. As to #5, I think we need a 2000′ buffer zone, owned by the government; use it for random bombing practice.
Ragnar Danneskjöld
June 30th, 2010
7:24 pm
Opening of the best argument on the topic:
KAGAN HEARINGS SURPASS WORLD CUP FOR MOST BORING TV EVENT
by Ann Coulter
June 30, 2010
The two main points being made by Democrats in support of Elena Kagan’s nomination to the Supreme Court merely serve to remind us that Democrats are inveterate liars.
First, it has been repeatedly observed how wonderful it is that Ms. Kagan is “someone who’s an intellectual heavyweight who’s going to give Roberts a run for the money” — as Sen. Amy Klobuchar, D-Minn., put it.
Whew! Good thing the Democrats got that Hispanic nominee out of the way, so they could appoint somebody with intellectual heft! Hey! What happened to the “wise Latina”? At least now you know what liberals really think of you, Sonia.
Second, liberals are raving about Kagan’s “skill at building a consensus … reaching out and building coalitions” — as Sen. Dick Durbin, D-Ill., said last week.
It’s as if they’re talking about a governing majority in the Senate. Next thing you know, liberals will be complaining about a “do nothing” Supreme Court.
On MSNBC’s “Hardball” back in May, Sen. Klobuchar said: “We want to get some things done on this court.”
Get some things done? Amy Klobuchar is not considered a lunatic, but this was a crazy, giveaway moment. (Durbin is not considered a lunatic, just a hack.)
No More Progressives!
June 30th, 2010
7:26 pm
Well, HDB, you flunked. Again.
OK: 1- Sentencing guidelines: Same crime…black people aree sentenced LONGER
2. Employment – Black unemployment rate DOUBLE the rate of the preponderance of Americans
3. Republican Representation of Black people – NO Black Republicans since JC Watts; only 105 delegates to the past GOP Convention……
Sentencing guidelines – I agree. Same crime, same time.
Employment – this is a large Duh. The reasons differ, but you act like it’s my fault.
Republican Representation of Black people – is thuroughly different from Black Republican representation of Black people. Again, you act like this is my fault.
I’m highly aware of all three. You stated unequivocally that I was not aware of these issues, and I am. Have been.
Try again.
PS: There’s only one Black senator (Roland Burris) out of 99. Is this my fault too?
Enormous H
June 30th, 2010
7:27 pm
It’s OK, LA. Most people know you’ve been repeatedly and permanently banned from both JB’s and CT’s for being the scummy on-line moron you are. Soon, KW will tire of your stupidity and then you’ll be reduced to Barr’s blog!
If you had any pride as a man at all you would just disappear. But as others have noted, you don’t and you won’t.
Over and out, lout.
Roger Rabbit
June 30th, 2010
7:30 pm
Yep, WOW is LA/DavidAF!
How long before he says “Hypocrite much?”
Or “Read much?” or “Contradict much?” or “Spell much”?
Kyle, can you send him on a permanent vacation again?
Ragnar Danneskjöld
June 30th, 2010
7:35 pm
After seeing the complaints against WOW, I started reading. I think I want to friend him/her. Pretty good sense of humor.
WOW
June 30th, 2010
7:39 pm
Enormous H
What is Kyle going to ban me for? You left wingers cry and whine when people hit back at you yet you’re here name calling etc..
Have fun on your delivery run, H!
WOW
June 30th, 2010
7:40 pm
“Kyle, can you send him on a permanent vacation again?”
For what? The only thing I’ve done is combat left wing drivel from crybabies. If Kyle was going to ban someone maybe he should ban the gals who were on here earlier calling him stupid, idiot etc….
snoqualmiefalls
June 30th, 2010
7:41 pm
Asking Ms. Kagen what she does on XMas day by the Senator from So. Carolina show me that So. Carolina has no Jews, otherwise he would now the answer. Just another Southern, Christian, conservative Senator attempting to point out that Kagan is not a Christian. That’s real smart Senator, another example of Lincoln’s folly of keeping this country together.
WOW
June 30th, 2010
7:41 pm
“How long before he says “Hypocrite much?””
So, am I the only one on Earth to have written that? Gee Rabit, if that’s the case then I guess you’re the only gal on Earth who drives a Pinto.
WOW
June 30th, 2010
7:43 pm
Ragnar Danneskjöld
These left wingers all come on here, name call and then run away screaming and begging the blog moderator to ban me. They did the same thing on Bookman and Tuckers blog. If they had half a brain, which none of them do, they’d go back and actually read the numerous insults that were thrown my way.
Typical left wingers. Same old same old.
WOW
June 30th, 2010
7:45 pm
“Asking Ms. Kagen what she does on XMas day by the Senator from So. Carolina show me that So. Carolina has no Jews, otherwise he would now the answer.”
he would “now” the answer? How does one “now” the answer?
“ust another Southern, Christian,”
Ah, the truth comes out. Another whiny little left winger comes on and blames Christians.
Enormous Buffoon
June 30th, 2010
7:49 pm
“being the scummy on-line moron you are. Soon, KW will tire of your stupidity and then you’ll be reduced to Barr’s blog! ”
So, Enormous H wants WOW banned for name calling yet he calls WOW a moron AND stupid.
Classic.
Enormous H
June 30th, 2010
7:57 pm
I’ll drive by later to see what the little victimized, perpetually banned LA brat cries about next.
Enormous Buffoon
June 30th, 2010
8:15 pm
Enormous H steals blog handles.
Enormous Buffoon
June 30th, 2010
8:15 pm
“I’ll drive by later to see what the little victimized, perpetually banned LA brat cries about next.”
Who is LA?
hryder
June 30th, 2010
9:05 pm
Get off the refuted arguement that the Supreme Court gave Bush the election over Gore. Gore lost because he obtained fewer votes from the Florida results as all unbiased counts, recounts, audits, et.al., established. Those of you who remain paranoid regarding the results are attempting to tell the same LIE, ad nauseum, that such will be accepted as true. Not with this event, so shut up and dream of another lie that is so untrue that it is inane.
Ragnar Danneskjöld
June 30th, 2010
9:21 pm
Dear Real WOW @ 7:43, I banned myself from Bookman – don’t respect him much. I enjoy Cynthia’s blog
No More Progressives!
July 1st, 2010
6:24 am
Barack Obama revealed his goal for the Supreme Court when he complained on Chicago radio station WBEZ-FM in 2001 that the Earl Warren Court wasn’t “radical” enough because “it didn’t break free from the essential constraints placed by the Founding Fathers in the Constitution” in order to allow “redistribution of wealth.” Now that Obama is president, he has the power to nominate Supreme Court justices who will “break free” from the Constitution and join him in “fundamentally transforming” America.
http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=172725
No More Progressives!
July 1st, 2010
6:38 am
Kagan Declines To Say Gov’t Has No Power to Tell Americans What To Eat
http://patriotupdate.com/stories/read/4146/Kagan-Declines-To-Say-Govt-Has-No-Power-to-Tell-Americans-What-To-Eat
No More Progressives!
July 1st, 2010
6:46 am
Kagan hearings surpass World Cup for most boring TV event
The two main points being made by Democrats in support of Elena Kagan’s nomination to the Supreme Court merely serve to remind us that Democrats are inveterate liars.
http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=173149
No More Progressives!
July 1st, 2010
6:51 am
Wow, these Kagan hearings are boring as hell. As expected, Barack’s girl, Elena, is dancing and dodging her way out of substantially answering any question. Heck, this kabuki theater has already gotten to the point where Kagan said with a straight face that she didn’t know what the term “legal progressive” means.
http://content.eaglepub.com/?ldKg.cWuZe-SJEBfDOgS2aMlsuhquSgRl
No More Progressives!
July 1st, 2010
7:08 am
“Did you write that memo?” Hatch asked.
“Senator, with respect,” Kagan began, “I don’t think that that’s what happened — ”
“Did you write that memo?”
“I’m sorry — the memo which is?”
“The memo that caused them to go back to the language of ‘medically necessary,’ which was the big issue to begin with — ”
“Yes, well, I’ve seen the document — ”
“But did you write it?”
“The document is certainly in my handwriting.”
http://hotair.com/archives/2010/06/30/kagan-on-acog-memo-did-i-do-that/
No More Progressives!
July 1st, 2010
7:14 am
Judicial Watch, the public interest group that investigates and prosecutes government corruption, announced today that it has obtained documents from Hunter College High School regarding a White House effort to deny New York Times education reporter Sharon Otterman access to Supreme Court nominee Elena Kagan’s brother Irving…………..
http://hotair.com/archives/2010/06/30/did-the-white-house-interfere-with-nyt-research-of-kagan/
DEWSTARPATH
July 1st, 2010
7:21 am
WOW
June 30th, 2010
3:43 pm
“Is WOW really LA/DavidAxelfraud in disguise? ”
“Hey Dewstarpath!”
WRONG, LobLAw. I am not – repeat NOT Roger Rabbit – But
as I told you many times, all of the posters on this forum
are on to you.
DEWSTARPATH
July 1st, 2010
7:50 am
WOW (aka Loblaw aka LA aka Axelfraud et. al. ):
– Told you. Just read the comments in this forum by
Enormous H and Roger Rabbit. I wasn’t even on the
computer yesterday afternoon.
WOW = World Of Warcraft (LA’s favorite game, apparently).
DEWSTARPATH
July 1st, 2010
7:54 am
- And as far as your anti-union rants: that’s more evidence
of your own belief in Mussolini’s fascism than anything
President Obama has ever done.
WOW = Why Oh Why (did I ever use Dewstarpath’s handle
for my own pedantic rants ?)
WOW
July 1st, 2010
9:19 am
DEWSTARPATH
Dude, seriously, calm down.
No More Progressives!
July 2nd, 2010
8:14 am
Wednesday’s evening news shows and Thursday’s morning programs continued to minimize or leave out important moments of Supreme Court nominee Elena Kagan’s confirmation hearings. ABC’s Good Morning America, for instance, has offered only 67 seconds of coverage over three days. Today and The Early Show each provided a single ten second news brief on Thursday.
http://www.newsbusters.org/#ixzz0sWhi3B9S
No More Progressives!
July 2nd, 2010
8:34 am
Kagan was grilled today by Senator Graham on the Solomon Amendment. She said that in banning the military from involvement in the Office of Career Services, she was not making a political statement at all.
The record begs to differ. Here is Kagans actual wording in objecting to the militarys use of OCS (after being overruled by the Harvard administration in the aftermath of the Supreme Court upholding the Solomon Amendment): “I believe the military’s discriminatory employment policy is deeply wrong – both unwise and unjust. And this wrong tears at the fabric of our own community by denying an opportunity to some of our students that other of our students have. Does that sound political to you?”
http://www.visiontoamerica.org/story/kagans-lying-her-pearls-off-.html?utm_source=Vision+to+America+Announcements&utm_campaign=cdabda36eb-Vision_to_America_Announcements_7_1_2010&utm_medium=email
Intown
July 7th, 2010
11:47 am
Yes, Kyle. It’s easy to take a stand on principle when it’s the opposite side of the aisle that will take a hit. Let’s filibuster the next uber-conservative judicial activist judge that the next Repub president nominates instead. Leave Obama alone and let him continue to replace the aging left-of-center justices in the minority on the Court before his first term expires.
mark
July 7th, 2010
10:02 pm
Funny Republicans never had a problem with the idiot Bush’s anti abortion choices for the court, or the highly qualified Myers who received a law degree from ITT.
No More Progressives!
July 8th, 2010
7:46 am
mark
July 7th, 2010
10:02 pm
If Mark is alone in the forest whining, can anyone hear him???